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What does the king see, everyday? (when shaving)
The peasant, regularly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4DD7:68F:0:21B7:2FFE:EA32:A3A ( talk) 09:56, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
"In 2004 the magazine Total Film described the greenlighting of the movie (Carry On Columbus), and the decision to use alternative comedians, as the number 2 "dumbest decision in movie history"."
I presume this was some kind of survey, or "top ten list of Dumb decisions". Is there a link to the list on line somewhere? PaulHammond 13:38, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Is there a Carry On wikiproject? Is anyone interested in starting one? TheMadBaron 08:32, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Methinks we should have a box template thingummy, such as many other series have on Wikipedia (one good example is the films of Blake Edwards). It would list, and link to, all the Carry On films, most of the actors, and some peripheral topics. It would be placed in this article, and in every article about a Carry On film.
Who knows how to build a box template thingummy? TheMadBaron 02:07, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
The timeline of films needs separating from commentary of how good they are. Calling one era "decline" and another "revival" is leading. I think the films needs to be put into a straight timeline, and then any commentary on their decline and fall given in a separate section, and any mention of "decline" or "revival" should be cited as with anything else on wikipedia, rather than being an uncited value judgement. Also, I think a Carry On template/sidebar would probably be in order, something oalong the lines of the one at Star Trek. Cheers - PocklingtonDan 21:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi I agree that in terms of box office success, the Carry On films certainly did go into decline during the 1970s, but I feel that defining era's as 'decline' etc. is unjustified, as I (and I'm sure at least some others) would argue that the Carry On films of the 1970s (with the possible exception of Emmannuelle) were more witty than the earlier films. Thanks.
The mainstays of the series were Kenneth Williams (30000000000000 films)— Wasabe3543 03:22, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
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The article stated that Phil Silvers' role was written for Sid James, who suffered a heart attack shortly before producton started. However, The Whippet Inn contradicts this, stating that "Although not involved in the film, three days into shooting Sid James was rushed into hospital with a heart attack." It also suggests that Woody Allen had also been considered for the role.
It is unlikely that Silvers would be brought in at such short notice, so the Whippet Inn version looks more likely. Without any authoritative citation I have adjusted the article to follow the Whippet Inn version of events. Mrstonky ( talk) 19:41, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
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There was a bull terrier dog featured in one of the carry on films. My father was a cinema manager in the early 50's. he went to a cinema convention organised by the Rank Organisation. the dog was there at the reception, he ended up taking the dog. we called him Bill but his proper name was Tobias etc etc. Does anyone remember the dog and what film he was in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.159.32 ( talk) 12:08, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Neither of these articles are properly referenced and they are not the only unmade films of the series. It may be better to merge the content. Corporation Cart ( talk) 02:39, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Two columns for the list of films seems to make more sense, so you can see the entire list on one screen and to eliminate white space. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 15:48, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I have almost finished a wiki-table consisting of the films, and stage and theatre shows. I still have a few bits to do which should only take me an afternoon. Does anybody have any thought's or opposes if I replace some information in favour of - this. I would really appreciate any thought's. -- Cassianto ( talk) 14:03, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
The article states 34 Carry On films, but only 31 appear in the chronological list. ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.54.143.34 ( talk) 13:36, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Are we not in October? Doh, I was really looking forward to Christmas! Lol... I do plan on going through everything in this article and reference what can be referenced and cutting out everything else. I have a mad plan of taking this to GAC in the not so distant future, so the article will be heavily cleaned up. As a guide, I think we should use the excellent James Bond in film article for layout, prose style and presentation. I have two WP:FACs planned so I am pencilling in this after that. -- Cassianto Talk 10:43, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
To anyone watching: I will be creating a new list article containing the complete filmography which I then plan on moving from this article. I have taken the list in this article (which I completed about a year ago) and thoroughly copy edited it and is availible here for anyone to take a look. Because of this, the list in this article will then be made redundant so I will be deleting it and make a reference to the new article. I then plan on taking this list to WP:FLC in the next few weeks. As this is a major deletion of content from this article, I have decided to post this for a discussion to take place. -- Cassianto Talk 22:31, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
This sourced content was removed (possibly unintentionally) when the filmography table was split to another article. The removal of the content was unexplained in any case. Per WP:BRD, I restored this material, but this keeps being reverted. Per WP:BRD, it is for the editor(s) removing the content to justify its removal. Please discuss... -- Rob Sinden ( talk) 11:55, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Possibly, although the list is itself unsourced. The text seems to be supported, but whether those titles are included in the references referred to above the list is unclear because it wasn't done properly first time round. The other issues with the sections are as you've already highlighted:
Yes, the London section was sourced, but it looks a bit pointless and lost without any other films listed... - SchroCat ( talk) 13:39, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
I have to take issue with SchroCat's statement "Yes, it does have value here, but only after it's been sourced properly.". This is a wiki, it's a work in progress, and that work should be carried out collaboratively, in the open, on the article itself; not tucked away in some corner of Userspace or elsewhere. I'm getting fed up with this idea that seems to be spreading around Wikipedia that articles (and sections of articles) should be removed, edited off-line, and only reinstated once they meet certain criteria. That is not the way Wikipedia is supposed to work. [end of rant] Waggers TALK 15:49, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
This still isn't sourced correctly, or even nearly correctly. If you want it to remain in place, please provide adequate supporting citations from reliable sources. If you don't or can't provide such sources, then there is a very real danger that the unsupported information will be removed once again.
I still think it's rather ridiculous and shambolic to have a section about films that are not part of the series and never pretended to be part of the series. The logic is seriously screwed in including it... - SchroCat ( talk) 12:11, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, but the box now looks utterly ridiculous! Cassianto Talk 14:02, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was not merged. There was no consensus to merge the page, and no further discussion was held for almost three weeks. The Rambling Man ( talk) 10:31, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
I hadn't realized it, but this article is very similar to Carry On series on screen and stage, which I (very slightly) edited earlier. Unless anybody sees a distinction between the purposed of the two articles, I'd think this one could be folded into the other. Or maybe the other way around... -- Piledhigheranddeeper ( talk) 16:18, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Strong oppose to a misguided merge. The two pages have different focuses and cover different enough areas (as they do in other similar subjects). Just because this page is in a poor state does not in any circumstances mean that we should mix two pages of different subjects be mixed up together: it means that this page is of poor standard and needs work to bring it up to a decent standard, at which point the differences will be more apparent to even the most blinkered of bad faith editors. Although this may have been started in good faith by an editor, it is being dragged out by a bad faith editor to try and get his own way. Sadly this isn't the first time he's tried stirring like this, and sadly I doubt it'll be the last. - SchroCat ( talk) 09:16, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
The above merge discussion was closed with no consensus, but I think we were reaching some kind of consensus regarding the structure of the articles and moving the production information here, and adding plot to the list article, although the conversation fizzled out. Should we look into this possibility further? -- Rob Sinden ( talk) 11:10, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
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Is there any evidence that this statement is not true of the James Bond series, which has been running "continually" for 53 years from first to last movie? Even if you count Casino Royale as a break - a tenuous claim given that continuity between films is sketchy at best and the Carry On series had no continuity whatsoever - it's still 40 years against Carry On's 34. And how is "longest continually running" defined? Jamyskis Whisper, Contribs 19:43, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
I changed "poorly paid" to "modestly paid", although personally I would think they were well paid. If Kenneth Williams earnt £5000 for Carry On Behind (for example, one of the later films), that amount in 1975 is equivalent to about £40,000 to-day. For 6 weeks work. Or to put it another way, about an average Briton's annual salary in a month. Seems quite a lot to me. And the films helped them get loads of other well paid work, such as the associated stage shows and television specials, as well as advertising and sponsorship contracts, and other acting roles. So maybe "modestly" is correct compared to Bond stars, Alain Delon, Hollywood etc. But definitely not "poor". 66.130.207.107 ( talk) 13:08, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
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What does the king see, everyday? (when shaving)
The peasant, regularly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4DD7:68F:0:21B7:2FFE:EA32:A3A ( talk) 09:56, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
"In 2004 the magazine Total Film described the greenlighting of the movie (Carry On Columbus), and the decision to use alternative comedians, as the number 2 "dumbest decision in movie history"."
I presume this was some kind of survey, or "top ten list of Dumb decisions". Is there a link to the list on line somewhere? PaulHammond 13:38, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Is there a Carry On wikiproject? Is anyone interested in starting one? TheMadBaron 08:32, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Methinks we should have a box template thingummy, such as many other series have on Wikipedia (one good example is the films of Blake Edwards). It would list, and link to, all the Carry On films, most of the actors, and some peripheral topics. It would be placed in this article, and in every article about a Carry On film.
Who knows how to build a box template thingummy? TheMadBaron 02:07, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
The timeline of films needs separating from commentary of how good they are. Calling one era "decline" and another "revival" is leading. I think the films needs to be put into a straight timeline, and then any commentary on their decline and fall given in a separate section, and any mention of "decline" or "revival" should be cited as with anything else on wikipedia, rather than being an uncited value judgement. Also, I think a Carry On template/sidebar would probably be in order, something oalong the lines of the one at Star Trek. Cheers - PocklingtonDan 21:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi I agree that in terms of box office success, the Carry On films certainly did go into decline during the 1970s, but I feel that defining era's as 'decline' etc. is unjustified, as I (and I'm sure at least some others) would argue that the Carry On films of the 1970s (with the possible exception of Emmannuelle) were more witty than the earlier films. Thanks.
The mainstays of the series were Kenneth Williams (30000000000000 films)— Wasabe3543 03:22, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
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The article stated that Phil Silvers' role was written for Sid James, who suffered a heart attack shortly before producton started. However, The Whippet Inn contradicts this, stating that "Although not involved in the film, three days into shooting Sid James was rushed into hospital with a heart attack." It also suggests that Woody Allen had also been considered for the role.
It is unlikely that Silvers would be brought in at such short notice, so the Whippet Inn version looks more likely. Without any authoritative citation I have adjusted the article to follow the Whippet Inn version of events. Mrstonky ( talk) 19:41, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
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There was a bull terrier dog featured in one of the carry on films. My father was a cinema manager in the early 50's. he went to a cinema convention organised by the Rank Organisation. the dog was there at the reception, he ended up taking the dog. we called him Bill but his proper name was Tobias etc etc. Does anyone remember the dog and what film he was in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.159.32 ( talk) 12:08, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Neither of these articles are properly referenced and they are not the only unmade films of the series. It may be better to merge the content. Corporation Cart ( talk) 02:39, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Two columns for the list of films seems to make more sense, so you can see the entire list on one screen and to eliminate white space. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 15:48, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I have almost finished a wiki-table consisting of the films, and stage and theatre shows. I still have a few bits to do which should only take me an afternoon. Does anybody have any thought's or opposes if I replace some information in favour of - this. I would really appreciate any thought's. -- Cassianto ( talk) 14:03, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
The article states 34 Carry On films, but only 31 appear in the chronological list. ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.54.143.34 ( talk) 13:36, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Are we not in October? Doh, I was really looking forward to Christmas! Lol... I do plan on going through everything in this article and reference what can be referenced and cutting out everything else. I have a mad plan of taking this to GAC in the not so distant future, so the article will be heavily cleaned up. As a guide, I think we should use the excellent James Bond in film article for layout, prose style and presentation. I have two WP:FACs planned so I am pencilling in this after that. -- Cassianto Talk 10:43, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
To anyone watching: I will be creating a new list article containing the complete filmography which I then plan on moving from this article. I have taken the list in this article (which I completed about a year ago) and thoroughly copy edited it and is availible here for anyone to take a look. Because of this, the list in this article will then be made redundant so I will be deleting it and make a reference to the new article. I then plan on taking this list to WP:FLC in the next few weeks. As this is a major deletion of content from this article, I have decided to post this for a discussion to take place. -- Cassianto Talk 22:31, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
This sourced content was removed (possibly unintentionally) when the filmography table was split to another article. The removal of the content was unexplained in any case. Per WP:BRD, I restored this material, but this keeps being reverted. Per WP:BRD, it is for the editor(s) removing the content to justify its removal. Please discuss... -- Rob Sinden ( talk) 11:55, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Possibly, although the list is itself unsourced. The text seems to be supported, but whether those titles are included in the references referred to above the list is unclear because it wasn't done properly first time round. The other issues with the sections are as you've already highlighted:
Yes, the London section was sourced, but it looks a bit pointless and lost without any other films listed... - SchroCat ( talk) 13:39, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
I have to take issue with SchroCat's statement "Yes, it does have value here, but only after it's been sourced properly.". This is a wiki, it's a work in progress, and that work should be carried out collaboratively, in the open, on the article itself; not tucked away in some corner of Userspace or elsewhere. I'm getting fed up with this idea that seems to be spreading around Wikipedia that articles (and sections of articles) should be removed, edited off-line, and only reinstated once they meet certain criteria. That is not the way Wikipedia is supposed to work. [end of rant] Waggers TALK 15:49, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
This still isn't sourced correctly, or even nearly correctly. If you want it to remain in place, please provide adequate supporting citations from reliable sources. If you don't or can't provide such sources, then there is a very real danger that the unsupported information will be removed once again.
I still think it's rather ridiculous and shambolic to have a section about films that are not part of the series and never pretended to be part of the series. The logic is seriously screwed in including it... - SchroCat ( talk) 12:11, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, but the box now looks utterly ridiculous! Cassianto Talk 14:02, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was not merged. There was no consensus to merge the page, and no further discussion was held for almost three weeks. The Rambling Man ( talk) 10:31, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
I hadn't realized it, but this article is very similar to Carry On series on screen and stage, which I (very slightly) edited earlier. Unless anybody sees a distinction between the purposed of the two articles, I'd think this one could be folded into the other. Or maybe the other way around... -- Piledhigheranddeeper ( talk) 16:18, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Strong oppose to a misguided merge. The two pages have different focuses and cover different enough areas (as they do in other similar subjects). Just because this page is in a poor state does not in any circumstances mean that we should mix two pages of different subjects be mixed up together: it means that this page is of poor standard and needs work to bring it up to a decent standard, at which point the differences will be more apparent to even the most blinkered of bad faith editors. Although this may have been started in good faith by an editor, it is being dragged out by a bad faith editor to try and get his own way. Sadly this isn't the first time he's tried stirring like this, and sadly I doubt it'll be the last. - SchroCat ( talk) 09:16, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
The above merge discussion was closed with no consensus, but I think we were reaching some kind of consensus regarding the structure of the articles and moving the production information here, and adding plot to the list article, although the conversation fizzled out. Should we look into this possibility further? -- Rob Sinden ( talk) 11:10, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
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Is there any evidence that this statement is not true of the James Bond series, which has been running "continually" for 53 years from first to last movie? Even if you count Casino Royale as a break - a tenuous claim given that continuity between films is sketchy at best and the Carry On series had no continuity whatsoever - it's still 40 years against Carry On's 34. And how is "longest continually running" defined? Jamyskis Whisper, Contribs 19:43, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
I changed "poorly paid" to "modestly paid", although personally I would think they were well paid. If Kenneth Williams earnt £5000 for Carry On Behind (for example, one of the later films), that amount in 1975 is equivalent to about £40,000 to-day. For 6 weeks work. Or to put it another way, about an average Briton's annual salary in a month. Seems quite a lot to me. And the films helped them get loads of other well paid work, such as the associated stage shows and television specials, as well as advertising and sponsorship contracts, and other acting roles. So maybe "modestly" is correct compared to Bond stars, Alain Delon, Hollywood etc. But definitely not "poor". 66.130.207.107 ( talk) 13:08, 17 July 2019 (UTC)