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The statement "Japanese culture maintained an uneasy relation to Buddhist culture. While the Chinese culture was admired, Buddhism was also regarded as a strange influence." does not appear to make sense. It appear to be Shinbutsu bunri -someones perspective - perhaps what Department of Divinity ("jingikan") established in 1869 might have promoted as a part of newly developed State Shinto doctrine. Malaiya ( talk) 01:37, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
I hesitate to think that I could offer any improvement to this awe-inspiring article, but here goes.
The section Buddhism_in_Japan#Kamakura_Buddhism appears under Buddhism_in_Japan#Japanese_Buddhist_schools, suggesting to naive readers such as myself that Kamakura is a school of Japenese Buddhism. Of course, it's nothing of the sort, but merely a scholarly misnomer for Buddhism during the Kamakura period in Japenese history. I would prefer the more accurate title, Buddhism during the Kamakura Period.
The first sentence of the section Buddhism_in_Japan#Zen_Schools hides its subject through the use of passive voice. As god is my witness (I mean Grammarly), this is usually a bad idea. The long second sentence is undocumented, surprising, and unexplained. This paragraph, like several others, reads as if it were part of an article titled "History of Buddhism in Japan." Here are a couple of alternate ways to start out that the naive reader may find more useful, one from Brittanica, and one that I just came up with:
Zen, Chinese Chan, Korean Sŏn, also spelled Seon, Vietnamese Thien, [is an] important school [tradition] of East Asian Buddhism that constitutes the mainstream monastic form of Mahayana Buddhism in China, Korea, and Vietnam and accounts for approximately 20 percent of the Buddhist temples in Japan. ~ https://www.britannica.com/topic/Zen
I'm not too sure if anybody's on this yet, but...
There are quite a few missing citations that seem that they have been in limbo since 2013. They're not hard to find, skimming through the article will be enough to locate the majority of the missing citations. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Criag S. ( talk • contribs) 22:54, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Main article: Japanese Zen. The Zen tradition began with the Chinese meditation master Bodhidharma. Bodhidharma's emphasis on meditation distinguishes Zen from earlier forms of Buddhism that emphasized reading, memorizing and commenting on sutras, or forms that emphasized chanting such as Pure Land. The Chinese word for meditation is Ch'an, which got transliterated to Zen when Eisai, Dōgen, Ingen, and others brought Ch'an to Japan.
Page Notes ( talk) 01:56, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
A user whose many IPs all geolocate to the same position in Pune, India, has been repeatedly making edits that do not adhere to the neutral point of view policy. The edits have misrepresented sources, such as this: [1], claiming to indicate that 96% of the population are Buddhists, or edits that show only the ACA figures of about 67% and ignore other reliable sources and estimates that put it much lower, at 20-40%. The user's edits have a long history of incorrectly inflating the number of Buddhists, with improperly cited or unsourced/original content, in many articles, for example: [2]. I'm asking them to stop doing this, otherwise the article(s) may need to be protected from IP editing. Their IP today was 2409:4042:2512:56c0::2003:a8a5 ( talk). I and others have left many warnings and tried to contact them via their talk pages, with no response. I hope they will see this. -- IamNotU ( talk) 13:31, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
Buddhism originated in India, but it is absurd to describe the introduction of Buddhism as 'Indianisation'. Of course, it is also absurd to describe the introduction of a culture or technology that originated in Japan as 'Japanisation'. Moreover, Japan did not introduce Buddhism directly from India. The Buddhism that Japan introduced was influenced by Chinese Buddhism, and its architecture, Buddhist statues and scriptures were quite different from those of India, making it even more absurd to describe it as "Indianisation".-- SLIMHANNYA ( talk) 10:48, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Echoing the comments from the topic "Problems re Kamakura Buddhism, Zen schools" (which doesn't have a "reply" button or an editor listed), I think that the section on schools needs some work. Specifically, there are a lot of sources on Japanese Zen, but it is not well defined in this article. I think that a summary from the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy would be a good addition. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/japanese-zen/ The section is currently organized as more of a historical lineage rather than a discussion of the schools' philosophies. Please share any thoughts before I tackle these changes. —Zujine| talk 13:23, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
everyone knows well the so-called "Buddhist conquest of China" or "Indianized China"
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— Assignment last updated by Dslaym ( talk) 13:57, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
The statement "Japanese culture maintained an uneasy relation to Buddhist culture. While the Chinese culture was admired, Buddhism was also regarded as a strange influence." does not appear to make sense. It appear to be Shinbutsu bunri -someones perspective - perhaps what Department of Divinity ("jingikan") established in 1869 might have promoted as a part of newly developed State Shinto doctrine. Malaiya ( talk) 01:37, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
I hesitate to think that I could offer any improvement to this awe-inspiring article, but here goes.
The section Buddhism_in_Japan#Kamakura_Buddhism appears under Buddhism_in_Japan#Japanese_Buddhist_schools, suggesting to naive readers such as myself that Kamakura is a school of Japenese Buddhism. Of course, it's nothing of the sort, but merely a scholarly misnomer for Buddhism during the Kamakura period in Japenese history. I would prefer the more accurate title, Buddhism during the Kamakura Period.
The first sentence of the section Buddhism_in_Japan#Zen_Schools hides its subject through the use of passive voice. As god is my witness (I mean Grammarly), this is usually a bad idea. The long second sentence is undocumented, surprising, and unexplained. This paragraph, like several others, reads as if it were part of an article titled "History of Buddhism in Japan." Here are a couple of alternate ways to start out that the naive reader may find more useful, one from Brittanica, and one that I just came up with:
Zen, Chinese Chan, Korean Sŏn, also spelled Seon, Vietnamese Thien, [is an] important school [tradition] of East Asian Buddhism that constitutes the mainstream monastic form of Mahayana Buddhism in China, Korea, and Vietnam and accounts for approximately 20 percent of the Buddhist temples in Japan. ~ https://www.britannica.com/topic/Zen
I'm not too sure if anybody's on this yet, but...
There are quite a few missing citations that seem that they have been in limbo since 2013. They're not hard to find, skimming through the article will be enough to locate the majority of the missing citations. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Criag S. ( talk • contribs) 22:54, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Main article: Japanese Zen. The Zen tradition began with the Chinese meditation master Bodhidharma. Bodhidharma's emphasis on meditation distinguishes Zen from earlier forms of Buddhism that emphasized reading, memorizing and commenting on sutras, or forms that emphasized chanting such as Pure Land. The Chinese word for meditation is Ch'an, which got transliterated to Zen when Eisai, Dōgen, Ingen, and others brought Ch'an to Japan.
Page Notes ( talk) 01:56, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
A user whose many IPs all geolocate to the same position in Pune, India, has been repeatedly making edits that do not adhere to the neutral point of view policy. The edits have misrepresented sources, such as this: [1], claiming to indicate that 96% of the population are Buddhists, or edits that show only the ACA figures of about 67% and ignore other reliable sources and estimates that put it much lower, at 20-40%. The user's edits have a long history of incorrectly inflating the number of Buddhists, with improperly cited or unsourced/original content, in many articles, for example: [2]. I'm asking them to stop doing this, otherwise the article(s) may need to be protected from IP editing. Their IP today was 2409:4042:2512:56c0::2003:a8a5 ( talk). I and others have left many warnings and tried to contact them via their talk pages, with no response. I hope they will see this. -- IamNotU ( talk) 13:31, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
Buddhism originated in India, but it is absurd to describe the introduction of Buddhism as 'Indianisation'. Of course, it is also absurd to describe the introduction of a culture or technology that originated in Japan as 'Japanisation'. Moreover, Japan did not introduce Buddhism directly from India. The Buddhism that Japan introduced was influenced by Chinese Buddhism, and its architecture, Buddhist statues and scriptures were quite different from those of India, making it even more absurd to describe it as "Indianisation".-- SLIMHANNYA ( talk) 10:48, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Echoing the comments from the topic "Problems re Kamakura Buddhism, Zen schools" (which doesn't have a "reply" button or an editor listed), I think that the section on schools needs some work. Specifically, there are a lot of sources on Japanese Zen, but it is not well defined in this article. I think that a summary from the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy would be a good addition. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/japanese-zen/ The section is currently organized as more of a historical lineage rather than a discussion of the schools' philosophies. Please share any thoughts before I tackle these changes. —Zujine| talk 13:23, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
everyone knows well the so-called "Buddhist conquest of China" or "Indianized China"