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The paragraph below inserted into the article is true. You can come to Brighton Beach and talk to old timers, who will thell you this. Just because something is not reported in the media, does not mean it did not happen. In 1940-1943, the media did not report on people being in concetration camps, either. Does it mean it did not happen?
"In late 1970's to mid 1980's Brighton Beach was beginning to become a bad neighborhood due to crime wave sweeping across much of America's cities. However, having just arrived and having nowhere else to go, new Russian immigrants fought bloody battles on the streets of Brighton Beach and succesfully pushed out most of the the criminal element in the neighborhood." -- 71.247.66.125 00:27, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
As New York contains some of the highest amount of Jews in the world, Brighton Beach is a predominantly Jewish neighborhood. Jews in Russia are not 'Russkii' which identifies nationality. Jews in Russia are a separate nationality. It is therefore improper and inappropriate to call this area Russian. -- 204.102.211.115 23:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Actually, you're all wrong. Jews are not a nationality or an ethnic group. The notion of Jews as anything other than a religious group is a myth that comes from the old testament bible. This has no basis in reality as different Jews and Jewish groups around the world do not share common origins and heritage. Also, some Jews from Russia are ethnically Russian (the Eastern Slavic phenotype of many Eastern European Jews confirms this as obvious) just as some Jews from Germany are ethnically German. It's just a religion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.211.18.225 ( talk) 20:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I corrected the population numbers as that is the numbers stated in the Russian language version of this article, and as I assume that version was written by actual Russian-speaking people living in Brighton-beach or other wise more familiar with it, I trust their numbers better.
Actually, the 2000 census says that the population from the entire zip code is 77,541. How could more than 4 times that number live in only 1/3 of that zip code alone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.122.253.212 ( talk) 03:46, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
The "The Fifties" section sounds like either an ad or text copied from elsewhere. Also, it has no citations. Graymornings 01:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Quote: "Many Russian women have started to make topless sunbathing popular on the beach.[citation needed] " that's what is says in the article but is simply not true. I've lived in the neighbourhood for a long time, I go there all the time and use the beach, and I have never seen a topless woman there, Russian, Jew or otherwise. It is not done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.188.24 ( talk) 20:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Is the environment in this video Brighton Beach? Mallerd ( talk) 10:51, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
This map shows the boundaries of Brighton Beach
Comparing it to the map of Coney Island:
I have seen sources that say that PS 100 Coney Island was in Brighton Beach:
Same with Lincoln HS:
But that doesn't match up with the maps...
WhisperToMe ( talk) 19:08, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
I always hear that Brighton Beach is almost completely a Russian Jewish neighborhood with no ethnic Russians and Ukrainians at all in the area. Why aren't there any ethnic Russians and Ukrainians living in Brighton Beach by now if the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 now allows anyone to leave freely nowadays? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.14.189.228 ( talk) 01:41, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
The Keith Williams "Brighton Beach: Old World mentality, New World reality" blog piece was a source of at least one full paragraph, and one further sentence, that heretofore appeared verbatim (quoted from that source, without appearance of quotation marks). This plagiarism has been rectified, but other editors should be on the look for further instances from this and other sources. Le Prof Leprof 7272 ( talk) 05:32, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
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As of 2007 [update], it has a population of 75,692 with a total of 31,228 households. [1]
On looking at the reference, I could find no mention to Brighton, or to the population number given. Since the numbers are discrepant with regard to the later cited census numbers, and since Brighton and the numbers are not readily apparent at the webpage given—perhaps a tab is needed or some such, but this makes this a poor source—the information is moved here until it can be verified and sourced. (Ledes should not contain information not in their main bodies, and that is dubious.) Le Prof Leprof 7272 ( talk) 22:00, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
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Hi!
I recently visited Brighton Beach avenue. There is a supermarket titled "Gourmanoff" at what used to be The "Millennium Theater", and which was later renamed to the "Master Theater". Here is the link to the Google image of the supermarket/theater entrance: https://www.google.com/maps/place/1029+Brighton+Beach+Ave,+Brooklyn,+NY+11235/@40.578276,-73.9584747,3a,75y,342.21h,92.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1m2rgGCQxIfVWI2nTdxy2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c2446a1d8c5eaf:0x898588f507b78dd5!8m2!3d40.5784293!4d-73.9585297
The webpage of the "Master theater" is still live and lists current and future events: http://mastertheater.com/
Does anyone know what happened to the theater? Upstairs? Downstairs?
Thanks!
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The result of the move request was: Page not moved due to no consensus. ( closed by non-admin page mover) -- Dane talk 00:16, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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(I could ask the same question in numerous other articles.) If the Census that we're quoting reports "American Indians", then why do we change it to "Native Americans"? (Isn't it more accurate and honest to use the exact term from the source?) Drsruli ( talk) 00:32, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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The paragraph below inserted into the article is true. You can come to Brighton Beach and talk to old timers, who will thell you this. Just because something is not reported in the media, does not mean it did not happen. In 1940-1943, the media did not report on people being in concetration camps, either. Does it mean it did not happen?
"In late 1970's to mid 1980's Brighton Beach was beginning to become a bad neighborhood due to crime wave sweeping across much of America's cities. However, having just arrived and having nowhere else to go, new Russian immigrants fought bloody battles on the streets of Brighton Beach and succesfully pushed out most of the the criminal element in the neighborhood." -- 71.247.66.125 00:27, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
As New York contains some of the highest amount of Jews in the world, Brighton Beach is a predominantly Jewish neighborhood. Jews in Russia are not 'Russkii' which identifies nationality. Jews in Russia are a separate nationality. It is therefore improper and inappropriate to call this area Russian. -- 204.102.211.115 23:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Actually, you're all wrong. Jews are not a nationality or an ethnic group. The notion of Jews as anything other than a religious group is a myth that comes from the old testament bible. This has no basis in reality as different Jews and Jewish groups around the world do not share common origins and heritage. Also, some Jews from Russia are ethnically Russian (the Eastern Slavic phenotype of many Eastern European Jews confirms this as obvious) just as some Jews from Germany are ethnically German. It's just a religion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.211.18.225 ( talk) 20:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I corrected the population numbers as that is the numbers stated in the Russian language version of this article, and as I assume that version was written by actual Russian-speaking people living in Brighton-beach or other wise more familiar with it, I trust their numbers better.
Actually, the 2000 census says that the population from the entire zip code is 77,541. How could more than 4 times that number live in only 1/3 of that zip code alone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.122.253.212 ( talk) 03:46, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
The "The Fifties" section sounds like either an ad or text copied from elsewhere. Also, it has no citations. Graymornings 01:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Quote: "Many Russian women have started to make topless sunbathing popular on the beach.[citation needed] " that's what is says in the article but is simply not true. I've lived in the neighbourhood for a long time, I go there all the time and use the beach, and I have never seen a topless woman there, Russian, Jew or otherwise. It is not done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.188.24 ( talk) 20:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Is the environment in this video Brighton Beach? Mallerd ( talk) 10:51, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
This map shows the boundaries of Brighton Beach
Comparing it to the map of Coney Island:
I have seen sources that say that PS 100 Coney Island was in Brighton Beach:
Same with Lincoln HS:
But that doesn't match up with the maps...
WhisperToMe ( talk) 19:08, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
I always hear that Brighton Beach is almost completely a Russian Jewish neighborhood with no ethnic Russians and Ukrainians at all in the area. Why aren't there any ethnic Russians and Ukrainians living in Brighton Beach by now if the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 now allows anyone to leave freely nowadays? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.14.189.228 ( talk) 01:41, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
The Keith Williams "Brighton Beach: Old World mentality, New World reality" blog piece was a source of at least one full paragraph, and one further sentence, that heretofore appeared verbatim (quoted from that source, without appearance of quotation marks). This plagiarism has been rectified, but other editors should be on the look for further instances from this and other sources. Le Prof Leprof 7272 ( talk) 05:32, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
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Hi!
I recently visited Brighton Beach avenue. There is a supermarket titled "Gourmanoff" at what used to be The "Millennium Theater", and which was later renamed to the "Master Theater". Here is the link to the Google image of the supermarket/theater entrance: https://www.google.com/maps/place/1029+Brighton+Beach+Ave,+Brooklyn,+NY+11235/@40.578276,-73.9584747,3a,75y,342.21h,92.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1m2rgGCQxIfVWI2nTdxy2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c2446a1d8c5eaf:0x898588f507b78dd5!8m2!3d40.5784293!4d-73.9585297
The webpage of the "Master theater" is still live and lists current and future events: http://mastertheater.com/
Does anyone know what happened to the theater? Upstairs? Downstairs?
Thanks!
Rionin (
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The result of the move request was: Page not moved due to no consensus. ( closed by non-admin page mover) -- Dane talk 00:16, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
Brighton Beach →
Brighton Beach, Brooklyn – Wouldn't it be best to disambiguate article with a more accurate term with Brooklyn
Happypillsjr
✉ 03:58, 11 April 2019 (UTC) --Relisting.
Iffy★
Chat -- 17:44, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Umm, I call no contest. No other use of "Brighton Beach" comes even close to the page views that the community receives:
-- В²C ☎ 16:56, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
(I could ask the same question in numerous other articles.) If the Census that we're quoting reports "American Indians", then why do we change it to "Native Americans"? (Isn't it more accurate and honest to use the exact term from the source?) Drsruli ( talk) 00:32, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
This AfD discussion calls for a merge from Disco Freddy to this article. Any ideas about the best place for a brief addition? Pinging @ Ganesha811: from the AfD, but would love to hear from anyone. Joyous! | Talk 19:25, 14 December 2022 (UTC)