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(Redacted). Why isn't it in the article? 2A00:1028:8390:C7F2:E0A8:443D:80B9:C02D ( talk) 18:46, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
I don't mean to start any new discussions about whether 'Soldier F' should be named; there seems to be no new consensus on that front. But the article does not actually introduce or define the term 'Soldier F' despite using it numerous times in important contexts. This is confusing. If we are going to use this term, in quotes no less, then it should be prominently explained (in whatever manner existing consensus allows).
I would add something myself, but given the previous lengthy debate I thought it best to raise the issue with editors more familiar with the issue. Rwbogl ( talk) 17:06, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
@ Ianmacm Can you assist?
@ Kathleen's bike insists on reversing edits. I explained why bogside massacre is superfluous to the lede, which should be both concise and not duplicated.
Bloody Sunday (1972) is universally known and not the alternative they have submitted.
"Both bogside and massacre in bold are superfluous in the lede when two links to both words are already present. 13 died on Bloody Sunday, not 14. This ties in with the Martin McGuinness page which has been updated to reflect accurately the deaths that occurred as a result of British soldiers opening fire. A further death four months later, from injuries is also recorded". Jaymailsays ( talk) 23:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
About the names and victims: RTE Archives - Witness To Bogside Deaths 1972, RTE Archives - Remembering The Victims 1974. Both Irish sources. About the names: Het Parool 31-1-1972 (called "bloedbad", i.e. massacre in English) (Dutch source). I hope this helps. The Banner talk 16:56, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
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![]() | On 3 July 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Bloody Sunday. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
(Redacted). Why isn't it in the article? 2A00:1028:8390:C7F2:E0A8:443D:80B9:C02D ( talk) 18:46, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
I don't mean to start any new discussions about whether 'Soldier F' should be named; there seems to be no new consensus on that front. But the article does not actually introduce or define the term 'Soldier F' despite using it numerous times in important contexts. This is confusing. If we are going to use this term, in quotes no less, then it should be prominently explained (in whatever manner existing consensus allows).
I would add something myself, but given the previous lengthy debate I thought it best to raise the issue with editors more familiar with the issue. Rwbogl ( talk) 17:06, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
@ Ianmacm Can you assist?
@ Kathleen's bike insists on reversing edits. I explained why bogside massacre is superfluous to the lede, which should be both concise and not duplicated.
Bloody Sunday (1972) is universally known and not the alternative they have submitted.
"Both bogside and massacre in bold are superfluous in the lede when two links to both words are already present. 13 died on Bloody Sunday, not 14. This ties in with the Martin McGuinness page which has been updated to reflect accurately the deaths that occurred as a result of British soldiers opening fire. A further death four months later, from injuries is also recorded". Jaymailsays ( talk) 23:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
About the names and victims: RTE Archives - Witness To Bogside Deaths 1972, RTE Archives - Remembering The Victims 1974. Both Irish sources. About the names: Het Parool 31-1-1972 (called "bloedbad", i.e. massacre in English) (Dutch source). I hope this helps. The Banner talk 16:56, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
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