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Looking at [1] it seems that blood libel is now spread about Muslims as well. It's hardly surprising as many antisemitic myths are recirculated that way. The problem is where to fit it into the article. Any advice? // Liftarn ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:55, 2 January 2014
There is interesting material in Bill Ellis. Aliens, Ghosts, and Cults. Univ. Press of Mississippi. p. 53 ff.
ISBN
9781617030017.. All the best:
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At the end of the first paragraph, should note that in the present day, blood libel is often seen as more implicitly, perpetuated in media, where tropes of blood libel are echoed. This may be seen in political cartoons, Gisellechloe ( talk) 05:41, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 3mi1y ( talk) 22:57, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
This should be removed from See Also. It's not relevant or related to Blood libel in any way. Valgrus Thunderaxe ( talk) 05:22, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Hello!
I am a student at Chapman University. As a part of a senior-level course, we are required to edit a small number of Wiki pages we believe may need additional information. I plan to add a small amount of information regarding an incident of blood libel that occurred in the 19th century under the list of blood libel incidents. I have listed my source below, and would love any feedback that could be offered.
EKChapman ( talk) 07:28, 2 May 2023 (UTC)EKChapman
Emanuele D’Antonio, “Jewish Self-Defense against the Blood Libel in Mid-Nineteenth Century
Italy: The Badia Affair and Proceedings of the Castilliero Trial (1855-56),” in Miscellanea
2019, eds. Quest Editorial Staff, Quest. Issues in Contemporary Jewish History. Journal
of Fondazione CDEC, n. 14 December 2018 EKChapman ( talk) 07:22, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
The first sentence of the article clearly defines: "Blood libel or ritual murder libel (also blood accusation) is an antisemitic canard which falsely accuses Jews of murdering Christian boys in order to use their blood in the performance of religious rituals." The article, however, includes all kinds of cases in which Jews were simply accused of murdering non-Jews. This goes against the definition and that is enough to strike them. But in fact such mixing ends up lending credibility to the libel itself. Because nobody in their right mind can deny that in history psychopaths or otherwise disturbed persons who were Jews have murdered, tortured and raped non-Jews. So if we equate such true or possible cases with the blood libel, it makes the latter appear possible as well in the eyes of the reader. 178.4.151.244 ( talk) 17:55, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
The lede says that blood libel is an “ antisemitic canard”. This phrasing was introduced in this revision to replace “accusation”.
I’d like to suggest changing “canard” to “trope”. My only reason is that “canard” may not be as widely understood (as it’s a less common word), despite its more specific meaning.
Comments welcome! Mifield 20:28, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
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Change “* Allegations of genocide against Palestinians by Israel have been described as a form of blood libel by some critics. [1] [2]” to “* Allegations of genocide against Palestinians by Israel have been described as a form of blood libel by some critics. [3] [4] In contrast, several leading Jewish and Israeli anti-Zionist academics [5] [6] [7] [8] and organizations [9] [10] [11] [12] have similarly described the state of Israel’s continued treatment of Palestinians by classifying it as a genocide, [13] [14] citing the Ten stages of genocide alongside genocidal language incited against Palestinian civilians living in Gaza invoked by Israeli officials during the 2023 Israel-Hamas War. [15] [16] [17]”
Rationale: substantive information was removed on the grounds of irrelevance to the article, despite the information being incredibly relevant to current global events and the immediate paragraph around History - further citation also added. 74.15.198.165 ( talk) 23:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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Some point the article should probably split into a content article and move the lists into a separate article. At the moment the later sections need more explanation of the evolution of blood libel, and I would say should pick the most important examples within a narrative and perhaps place the examples onto their own page. Jim Killock (talk) 17:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
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In the 19th century section, the paragraph starting "In March 1879, ten Jewish men..." should be changed to "In March 1879, nine Jewish men." You may want to add the following citation where the case, including the number of defendants, is discussed in detail: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02634937.2024.2302581 Amiens98 ( talk) 08:56, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
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Looking at [1] it seems that blood libel is now spread about Muslims as well. It's hardly surprising as many antisemitic myths are recirculated that way. The problem is where to fit it into the article. Any advice? // Liftarn ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:55, 2 January 2014
There is interesting material in Bill Ellis. Aliens, Ghosts, and Cults. Univ. Press of Mississippi. p. 53 ff.
ISBN
9781617030017.. All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough, 17:38, 4 February 2015 (UTC).
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
At the end of the first paragraph, should note that in the present day, blood libel is often seen as more implicitly, perpetuated in media, where tropes of blood libel are echoed. This may be seen in political cartoons, Gisellechloe ( talk) 05:41, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 3mi1y ( talk) 22:57, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
This should be removed from See Also. It's not relevant or related to Blood libel in any way. Valgrus Thunderaxe ( talk) 05:22, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Hello!
I am a student at Chapman University. As a part of a senior-level course, we are required to edit a small number of Wiki pages we believe may need additional information. I plan to add a small amount of information regarding an incident of blood libel that occurred in the 19th century under the list of blood libel incidents. I have listed my source below, and would love any feedback that could be offered.
EKChapman ( talk) 07:28, 2 May 2023 (UTC)EKChapman
Emanuele D’Antonio, “Jewish Self-Defense against the Blood Libel in Mid-Nineteenth Century
Italy: The Badia Affair and Proceedings of the Castilliero Trial (1855-56),” in Miscellanea
2019, eds. Quest Editorial Staff, Quest. Issues in Contemporary Jewish History. Journal
of Fondazione CDEC, n. 14 December 2018 EKChapman ( talk) 07:22, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
The first sentence of the article clearly defines: "Blood libel or ritual murder libel (also blood accusation) is an antisemitic canard which falsely accuses Jews of murdering Christian boys in order to use their blood in the performance of religious rituals." The article, however, includes all kinds of cases in which Jews were simply accused of murdering non-Jews. This goes against the definition and that is enough to strike them. But in fact such mixing ends up lending credibility to the libel itself. Because nobody in their right mind can deny that in history psychopaths or otherwise disturbed persons who were Jews have murdered, tortured and raped non-Jews. So if we equate such true or possible cases with the blood libel, it makes the latter appear possible as well in the eyes of the reader. 178.4.151.244 ( talk) 17:55, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
The lede says that blood libel is an “ antisemitic canard”. This phrasing was introduced in this revision to replace “accusation”.
I’d like to suggest changing “canard” to “trope”. My only reason is that “canard” may not be as widely understood (as it’s a less common word), despite its more specific meaning.
Comments welcome! Mifield 20:28, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
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Change “* Allegations of genocide against Palestinians by Israel have been described as a form of blood libel by some critics. [1] [2]” to “* Allegations of genocide against Palestinians by Israel have been described as a form of blood libel by some critics. [3] [4] In contrast, several leading Jewish and Israeli anti-Zionist academics [5] [6] [7] [8] and organizations [9] [10] [11] [12] have similarly described the state of Israel’s continued treatment of Palestinians by classifying it as a genocide, [13] [14] citing the Ten stages of genocide alongside genocidal language incited against Palestinian civilians living in Gaza invoked by Israeli officials during the 2023 Israel-Hamas War. [15] [16] [17]”
Rationale: substantive information was removed on the grounds of irrelevance to the article, despite the information being incredibly relevant to current global events and the immediate paragraph around History - further citation also added. 74.15.198.165 ( talk) 23:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
References
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cite news}}
: CS1 maint: url-status (
link)
{{
cite web}}
: CS1 maint: url-status (
link)
Some point the article should probably split into a content article and move the lists into a separate article. At the moment the later sections need more explanation of the evolution of blood libel, and I would say should pick the most important examples within a narrative and perhaps place the examples onto their own page. Jim Killock (talk) 17:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
In the 19th century section, the paragraph starting "In March 1879, ten Jewish men..." should be changed to "In March 1879, nine Jewish men." You may want to add the following citation where the case, including the number of defendants, is discussed in detail: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02634937.2024.2302581 Amiens98 ( talk) 08:56, 5 April 2024 (UTC)