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Changed "MP-40" under Dutch weapons to "MP-28"...the MP-40 was not used by the KNIL however German MP-28's were purchased by the Dutch pre-WWII. Source: http://www.geocities.com/dutcheastindies/weapons.html
This article only describes the Allied Combatants and desn't say anything about the Timorese and Portuguese or even the Japanese. When I was writing the German Article, I couldn't find informations about Japan, but this source gives a lot of information about people living on Timor during the battle. Use it! -- J. Patrick Fischer 21:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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That source is now cited in the notes as by Geoffrey Gunn (1999). I'm not sure what the status of that work is; it is possible the author may not agree with its contents anymore...thus the name was not attached when someone decided to reproduce the pdf. It should' be consulted, as should his Timor Loro Sae 500 years (1999) but there are a growing number of other sources which could be used to follow up leads. ( Dewobroto ( talk) 15:19, 13 March 2010 (UTC))
can be foundin 'ALL THE BULLS MEN': C.Ayris, 2006, ISBN 0-646-45824-8, Copies c/o 2/2 Commando Association.
Although previously assessed as a B for a few projects, I have reassessed this article as start class. This is mainly due to referencing which I feel is not up to the required standard. Specifically a lot of the sources used are internet sources of dubious reliability. Anotherclown ( talk) 00:05, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
In its current form, the article says that units of the 48th division began arriving from the Philippines. The citation is a general book on the pacific war with which I am not familiar, but Materials on East Timor during World War II (Tokyo: Ryukei Shyosha 2008), p.27 says that Lt. Gen. Tsushihashi Yuitsu and the 48th division were then based on Java. As this bibliography is done by Timor specialists based in Japan, I suspect this is correct, but checking is necessary to ensure that SOME units didn't actually come from the Philippines. The same bibliography does list the autobiography of Tsuchihashi (1985) which might be useful for anyone with Japanese language ability. Koseisho Engokyoku (1961), and several other memoires in Japanese would help a lot. ( Dewobroto ( talk) 15:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC))
I added the template "Expand German". The template was now second time removed. Statement: "there may be minor points, but nothing warranting a tag. Please simply add the required information"
Sorry, the situation of the in the area living people is not a minor point. The artcle is still "only-Australian-view", looks more like a veteran's website article. I do not want to add the informations on myself, because I do not think, my English is good enough. I added the tag to notify a help for adding informations about Timorese and Portuguese in this time. If you are feeling ashamed, there could be informations in German WP, missing here or prefer to talk only about English speaking nations, it is a deficit of this article. Maybe you are prefering the Cleanup Template than the expand German-Tag. -- J. Patrick Fischer ( talk) 11:42, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
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The fact that the Allies were first to invade neutral Portuguese Timor is an important part of the historic record. The editorial "slant" of the entry is about the Japanese invasion -- which followed the Allied invasion and was in response to it. Would the Japanese have respected Timor's neutral status if the Allies had done the same? We will probably never know. 2603:800C:3944:BC00:E873:339B:4FF3:BA98 ( talk) 02:30, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
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Changed "MP-40" under Dutch weapons to "MP-28"...the MP-40 was not used by the KNIL however German MP-28's were purchased by the Dutch pre-WWII. Source: http://www.geocities.com/dutcheastindies/weapons.html
This article only describes the Allied Combatants and desn't say anything about the Timorese and Portuguese or even the Japanese. When I was writing the German Article, I couldn't find informations about Japan, but this source gives a lot of information about people living on Timor during the battle. Use it! -- J. Patrick Fischer 21:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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Response to above query..........
That source is now cited in the notes as by Geoffrey Gunn (1999). I'm not sure what the status of that work is; it is possible the author may not agree with its contents anymore...thus the name was not attached when someone decided to reproduce the pdf. It should' be consulted, as should his Timor Loro Sae 500 years (1999) but there are a growing number of other sources which could be used to follow up leads. ( Dewobroto ( talk) 15:19, 13 March 2010 (UTC))
can be foundin 'ALL THE BULLS MEN': C.Ayris, 2006, ISBN 0-646-45824-8, Copies c/o 2/2 Commando Association.
Although previously assessed as a B for a few projects, I have reassessed this article as start class. This is mainly due to referencing which I feel is not up to the required standard. Specifically a lot of the sources used are internet sources of dubious reliability. Anotherclown ( talk) 00:05, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
In its current form, the article says that units of the 48th division began arriving from the Philippines. The citation is a general book on the pacific war with which I am not familiar, but Materials on East Timor during World War II (Tokyo: Ryukei Shyosha 2008), p.27 says that Lt. Gen. Tsushihashi Yuitsu and the 48th division were then based on Java. As this bibliography is done by Timor specialists based in Japan, I suspect this is correct, but checking is necessary to ensure that SOME units didn't actually come from the Philippines. The same bibliography does list the autobiography of Tsuchihashi (1985) which might be useful for anyone with Japanese language ability. Koseisho Engokyoku (1961), and several other memoires in Japanese would help a lot. ( Dewobroto ( talk) 15:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC))
I added the template "Expand German". The template was now second time removed. Statement: "there may be minor points, but nothing warranting a tag. Please simply add the required information"
Sorry, the situation of the in the area living people is not a minor point. The artcle is still "only-Australian-view", looks more like a veteran's website article. I do not want to add the informations on myself, because I do not think, my English is good enough. I added the tag to notify a help for adding informations about Timorese and Portuguese in this time. If you are feeling ashamed, there could be informations in German WP, missing here or prefer to talk only about English speaking nations, it is a deficit of this article. Maybe you are prefering the Cleanup Template than the expand German-Tag. -- J. Patrick Fischer ( talk) 11:42, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
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The fact that the Allies were first to invade neutral Portuguese Timor is an important part of the historic record. The editorial "slant" of the entry is about the Japanese invasion -- which followed the Allied invasion and was in response to it. Would the Japanese have respected Timor's neutral status if the Allies had done the same? We will probably never know. 2603:800C:3944:BC00:E873:339B:4FF3:BA98 ( talk) 02:30, 11 February 2022 (UTC)