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Oskar Halecki, W: F. Reddaway, J. H. Penson.
The Cambridge History of Poland. CUP Archive. p. 473.
ISBN
978-1-00-128802-4. Retrieved 17 July 2012.{{
cite book}}
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link) claims this battle was a minor Swedish victory, but he even gets the dates wrong. All other sources I find call the battle a Polish victory. --
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
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15:55, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
I have asked about this at RSN: Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Is_this_a_fringe_claim.3F. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:08, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
{{movenotice|Battle of Dirschau}} Battle of Dirschau outnumbers "Battle of Tczew" 71 [2] to 7 [3] at google books. Dirschau is also the proper name in accordance to the Gdansk vote. HerkusMonte ( talk) 15:46, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I notice that Herkus went and moved the page without waiting for this RM to finish or even get under way. Regardless of the merits of the relative titles, this kind of action is not exactly collegial or in accordance with policy (not so say, disruptive). VolunteerMarek 01:24, 22 July 2012 (UTC) Agreed, moving articles before discussion is finished is not recommended. As for me, I see no reason for the move due to reasons already outlined above.-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 19:21, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 15:12, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
This article seems overall nationalistic with claims that doesn't belong to "the battle of Dirschau" and other one sided information. Anyone agrees? Since it's a new one this is very likely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imonoz ( talk • contribs) 18:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Also, you removed my source I added for the result? You said "This is not very reliable" Ofcourse it is, it's even more reliable than your Polish source since everyone can take part of it. There's plenty of these sources stating the same thing. However are you to ignorant to understand that? In that case if you're not looking from a neutral point of view you should get off wikipedia.
As both sides claims victory and also most historians claim it to be "indecisive" there's where we have to go, us on wikipedia don't judge for ourselves which side to pick, as I said "we're being neutral" so I'll change that back. Imonoz ( talk) 14:20, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Which is correct? Did the battle took place in July as the article says or in August which both the Swedish and the Polish wikipedia claim? Imonoz ( talk) 17:43, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Confirmed as B-class for WPPOLAND, per previous milhist assessment. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:20, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
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Oskar Halecki, W: F. Reddaway, J. H. Penson.
The Cambridge History of Poland. CUP Archive. p. 473.
ISBN
978-1-00-128802-4. Retrieved 17 July 2012.{{
cite book}}
: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (
link) claims this battle was a minor Swedish victory, but he even gets the dates wrong. All other sources I find call the battle a Polish victory. --
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here
15:55, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
I have asked about this at RSN: Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Is_this_a_fringe_claim.3F. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:08, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
{{movenotice|Battle of Dirschau}} Battle of Dirschau outnumbers "Battle of Tczew" 71 [2] to 7 [3] at google books. Dirschau is also the proper name in accordance to the Gdansk vote. HerkusMonte ( talk) 15:46, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I notice that Herkus went and moved the page without waiting for this RM to finish or even get under way. Regardless of the merits of the relative titles, this kind of action is not exactly collegial or in accordance with policy (not so say, disruptive). VolunteerMarek 01:24, 22 July 2012 (UTC) Agreed, moving articles before discussion is finished is not recommended. As for me, I see no reason for the move due to reasons already outlined above.-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 19:21, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 15:12, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
This article seems overall nationalistic with claims that doesn't belong to "the battle of Dirschau" and other one sided information. Anyone agrees? Since it's a new one this is very likely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imonoz ( talk • contribs) 18:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Also, you removed my source I added for the result? You said "This is not very reliable" Ofcourse it is, it's even more reliable than your Polish source since everyone can take part of it. There's plenty of these sources stating the same thing. However are you to ignorant to understand that? In that case if you're not looking from a neutral point of view you should get off wikipedia.
As both sides claims victory and also most historians claim it to be "indecisive" there's where we have to go, us on wikipedia don't judge for ourselves which side to pick, as I said "we're being neutral" so I'll change that back. Imonoz ( talk) 14:20, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Which is correct? Did the battle took place in July as the article says or in August which both the Swedish and the Polish wikipedia claim? Imonoz ( talk) 17:43, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Confirmed as B-class for WPPOLAND, per previous milhist assessment. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:20, 3 November 2012 (UTC)