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Since the Japanese naval forces only had less than 10,000 personnel, the statement of 70,000 of naval strength of Japanese forces in this battle is quire an exaggeration. Also, 5,000 casualties is not recorded (as far as I read). Comparing the original strength and the damage Japanese naval forces caught (128 or 400 "empty" ships), the statement of 5,000 casualties is quire unlikely. Wiki Humanities Arao ( talk) 16:32, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
In the previous naval battles, the Japanese naval forces realized that they needed to avoid the battles over sea against the Josen naval forces due to difference on the tactics between them. Japanese naval forces' tactics was boarding, on the other hand, the Josen naval forces' tactics was utilization of fire arrows. Although the Josen naval forces introduced cannons on their ships, their firing rage was limited only around 100 meters and was not the main force. Due to such background, the Japanese forces avoided naval combat. Wiki Humanities Arao ( talk) 16:32, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Since the Japanese forces avoided naval combat and preferred on land combat, and since the objective of the Josen forces was recovery of Busan bay then cutoff of the Japanese supply lines, the main combat was taken place on land. Then since the Japanese forces attacked the Josen forces from the higher place, the Josen forces were not able to defeat the Japanese forces then were needed to retreat. Firing empty 128 or 400 Japanese ships was collateral in this combat. Wiki Humanities Arao ( talk) 16:32, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Once Japanese navy saw Korean navy, they withdrawed from navy while abandoning their own ships. They tried to withdraw and protect in land.≠ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ichrio Nazuki ( talk • contribs) 08:53, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
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Shouldn't it be, like, Battle of Busan (1594)?-- Smashfanful ( talk) 12:16, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Someone continuously argued in the original atricle that the Battle of Busan (1592) was a strategic victory for the Japanese navy because the Korean navy failed to occupy Busan and withdrew. It seems, however, that the argument is based on the misunderstandings about the battle and the Imjin War (aka. Bunroku no eki). If this battle is a strategic victory for the Japanese navy because the Korean navy decided not to occupy Busan and withdrew it, why the Japanese navy have failed to control the coast of Korean peninsula until the end of the first Japanese invasion (Bunroku no eki) in 1593?
Furthermore, the Japanese losses of their fleet in Busan impaired their ability of supply troops and warfare commodities very heavily, which led to other Japanese defeats in Korea such as such as Siege of Pyongyang (1593) and Battle of Haengju, and eventually the Japanese had to withdrew their troops from the Korean peninsula to Japan in the end of the first invasion. Is this really a strategic victory of the Japanese navy to claim? I guess people who argue that the battle was a Japanese strategic victory should read the whole contents of the article before arguing it, unless they prove that all references in the original article showing the Joseon, or Korean, victory are wrong references. -- John21716( talk) 05:43, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
In the past, it was often interpreted that the supply shortage of the Japanese army was caused by Yi Sun-shin's cutoff of the supply route, but the supply shortage occurred only for the units that advanced to the inland areas, and throughout the campaign. There was never a decisive supply shortage in the distribution of goods and people on the sea route from Kyushu to Busan, so it would be wrong to interpret that the Japanese army's supply route was 'cut off' by the Korean navy led by Yi Sun-sin. The erroneous view has prevailed in recent years. The main reasons for the lack of food for the Japanese army were that the Korean army was weaker than expected in the early stages of the war, and because it occupied almost the entire country at once, the supply line was stretched out. The Japanese side assumed that food would be procured locally, but there was a considerable food shortage on the Korean Peninsula at the time. These problems were solved by the start of supply operations from the mainland of Japan in 1593 and the withdrawal of the main army from South Korea, and supply failure did not occur in the invasion operations of the Keicho War, which had completed preparations. Source: ’歴史群像’ 2010 April ”朝鮮出兵渡海作戦” -- たたたたたたたたったポンタ ( talk) 09:12, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Furthermore, the Korean Navy not only failed to capture Busan, but also suspended its activities until February of the following year. -- たたたたたたたたったポンタ ( talk) 09:15, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
"...the victory at Chinju changed nothing. Instead of following up their triumph with a counterattack against the advancing armies the Japanese retreated still farther." [7]
In a later engagement more than seventy Japanese vessels, including warships and transports were encountered by the Allied fleet and were sunk. The devastating blow which has been dealt to the Japanese fleet has isolated the enemy armies in Korea and has cut them off from their home bases. The naval action, which stretched over a period of several days, was broken off in the mid-summer of the year 1592. The naval forces were under the command of the Korean Admiral Yi Sun-sin. [8]
It is important in the history of Joseon's naval warfare, since it was the only sea battle, out of the ten fought during the year, in which Joseon attacked the Japanese naval base with relatively inferior fire power. In spite of the loss of Chong Woon, one of Yi's staff who was shot during the battle, Yi achieved an enormous victory in sinking over 100 ships in this one battle alone. As winter crept in, the two parties found naval operations impossible and rode at anchor for the duration of the season. [9] [10]
The Korean navy's attack on Busan had been astonishingly successful. It had destroyed fully a quarter of the Japanese fleet at a cost of just five men killed, twenty-five wounded, and no ships lost. [11]
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Since the Japanese naval forces only had less than 10,000 personnel, the statement of 70,000 of naval strength of Japanese forces in this battle is quire an exaggeration. Also, 5,000 casualties is not recorded (as far as I read). Comparing the original strength and the damage Japanese naval forces caught (128 or 400 "empty" ships), the statement of 5,000 casualties is quire unlikely. Wiki Humanities Arao ( talk) 16:32, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
In the previous naval battles, the Japanese naval forces realized that they needed to avoid the battles over sea against the Josen naval forces due to difference on the tactics between them. Japanese naval forces' tactics was boarding, on the other hand, the Josen naval forces' tactics was utilization of fire arrows. Although the Josen naval forces introduced cannons on their ships, their firing rage was limited only around 100 meters and was not the main force. Due to such background, the Japanese forces avoided naval combat. Wiki Humanities Arao ( talk) 16:32, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Since the Japanese forces avoided naval combat and preferred on land combat, and since the objective of the Josen forces was recovery of Busan bay then cutoff of the Japanese supply lines, the main combat was taken place on land. Then since the Japanese forces attacked the Josen forces from the higher place, the Josen forces were not able to defeat the Japanese forces then were needed to retreat. Firing empty 128 or 400 Japanese ships was collateral in this combat. Wiki Humanities Arao ( talk) 16:32, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Once Japanese navy saw Korean navy, they withdrawed from navy while abandoning their own ships. They tried to withdraw and protect in land.≠ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ichrio Nazuki ( talk • contribs) 08:53, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
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Shouldn't it be, like, Battle of Busan (1594)?-- Smashfanful ( talk) 12:16, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Someone continuously argued in the original atricle that the Battle of Busan (1592) was a strategic victory for the Japanese navy because the Korean navy failed to occupy Busan and withdrew. It seems, however, that the argument is based on the misunderstandings about the battle and the Imjin War (aka. Bunroku no eki). If this battle is a strategic victory for the Japanese navy because the Korean navy decided not to occupy Busan and withdrew it, why the Japanese navy have failed to control the coast of Korean peninsula until the end of the first Japanese invasion (Bunroku no eki) in 1593?
Furthermore, the Japanese losses of their fleet in Busan impaired their ability of supply troops and warfare commodities very heavily, which led to other Japanese defeats in Korea such as such as Siege of Pyongyang (1593) and Battle of Haengju, and eventually the Japanese had to withdrew their troops from the Korean peninsula to Japan in the end of the first invasion. Is this really a strategic victory of the Japanese navy to claim? I guess people who argue that the battle was a Japanese strategic victory should read the whole contents of the article before arguing it, unless they prove that all references in the original article showing the Joseon, or Korean, victory are wrong references. -- John21716( talk) 05:43, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
In the past, it was often interpreted that the supply shortage of the Japanese army was caused by Yi Sun-shin's cutoff of the supply route, but the supply shortage occurred only for the units that advanced to the inland areas, and throughout the campaign. There was never a decisive supply shortage in the distribution of goods and people on the sea route from Kyushu to Busan, so it would be wrong to interpret that the Japanese army's supply route was 'cut off' by the Korean navy led by Yi Sun-sin. The erroneous view has prevailed in recent years. The main reasons for the lack of food for the Japanese army were that the Korean army was weaker than expected in the early stages of the war, and because it occupied almost the entire country at once, the supply line was stretched out. The Japanese side assumed that food would be procured locally, but there was a considerable food shortage on the Korean Peninsula at the time. These problems were solved by the start of supply operations from the mainland of Japan in 1593 and the withdrawal of the main army from South Korea, and supply failure did not occur in the invasion operations of the Keicho War, which had completed preparations. Source: ’歴史群像’ 2010 April ”朝鮮出兵渡海作戦” -- たたたたたたたたったポンタ ( talk) 09:12, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Furthermore, the Korean Navy not only failed to capture Busan, but also suspended its activities until February of the following year. -- たたたたたたたたったポンタ ( talk) 09:15, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
"...the victory at Chinju changed nothing. Instead of following up their triumph with a counterattack against the advancing armies the Japanese retreated still farther." [7]
In a later engagement more than seventy Japanese vessels, including warships and transports were encountered by the Allied fleet and were sunk. The devastating blow which has been dealt to the Japanese fleet has isolated the enemy armies in Korea and has cut them off from their home bases. The naval action, which stretched over a period of several days, was broken off in the mid-summer of the year 1592. The naval forces were under the command of the Korean Admiral Yi Sun-sin. [8]
It is important in the history of Joseon's naval warfare, since it was the only sea battle, out of the ten fought during the year, in which Joseon attacked the Japanese naval base with relatively inferior fire power. In spite of the loss of Chong Woon, one of Yi's staff who was shot during the battle, Yi achieved an enormous victory in sinking over 100 ships in this one battle alone. As winter crept in, the two parties found naval operations impossible and rode at anchor for the duration of the season. [9] [10]
The Korean navy's attack on Busan had been astonishingly successful. It had destroyed fully a quarter of the Japanese fleet at a cost of just five men killed, twenty-five wounded, and no ships lost. [11]
this parameter may use one of two standard terms: "X victory" or "Inconclusive". The term used is for the "immediate" outcome of the "subject" conflict and should reflect what the sources say. In cases where the standard terms do not accurately describe the outcome, a link or note should be made to the section of the article where the result is discussed in detail (such as "See the Aftermath section"). Such a note can also be used in conjunction with the standard terms but should not be used to conceal an ambiguity in the "immediate" result. Do not introduce non-standard terms like "decisive", "marginal" or "tactical", or contradictory statements like "decisive tactical victory but strategic defeat". Omit this parameter altogether rather than engage in speculation about which side won or by how much.Qiushufang ( talk) 10:06, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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