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From the source calling him a Persian, I have seen no viable argument nor source(s) that consider him anything else. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 18:05, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
I have nothing to say. I have seen so many Wikipedia articles that attacks the history of Azerbaijan. Even his name has the word Azerbaijani. Please change this big mistake and stop attacking our history. -- Oyuncu Aykhan 3:33, 19 march 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oyuncu Aykhan ( talk • contribs)
My edit was not "unreliable self published source". My sources were from Zakir Mammadov and [2], they are reliable. Jobas ( talk) please fix this issue, because my culture and history is beign attacked. -- Oyuncu Aykhan 4:25, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Извест- ный азербайджанский философ XI в. Бахманйар ибн Марзбан был учеником знаменито- го философа Абу Али Ибн Сины.
Source Сара Ашурбейли - Государство Ширваншахов [1983], page 183 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shahanshah5 ( talk • contribs) 15:19, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Second, author of both sources is the same historian ( see /info/en/?search=Sara_Ashurbeyli ) whose sources are using on wikipedia. For example, if you'll look at sources under this article /info/en/?search=Shirvanshah, you can see ones from this author - Ashurbeyli.
We can't add your claim because:
* If you are interested in, then you can do some google.
* Saying current cited sources you mean those ones which sent LouisAragon?
* Do you mean if Ashurbeyli is reliable historian on Shirvanshah article she may be non-reliable historian on Bahmanyar's article?
: @
Wikaviani: Have many cases when wikipedia uses just a single source.
Pan-Iranism had a brief ideological life among a small group of Iranian fascists, but has fizzled and seems unlikely to gain new life. Like pan-Turkism, its essential aims are irremediably irredentist, evoking images of Nazi-era expansionism. For pan-Iranism, the irredenta are Bahrain, parts of Afghanistan, parts of Central Asia, Caucasian Azerbaijan, and the border regions of Iraq [1]
And secondly, since all Ashurbeyli's books are focused on the territories of Azerbaijani Republic so here is clear that she wasn't caring about lands in Armenia and Iran.
References
The result of the move request was: moved. —usernamekiran (talk) 06:37, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Bahmanyār →
Bahmanyar – No need for macrons, we don't tend to use that (
WP:USEENGLISH). --
HistoryofIran (
talk)
02:42, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
I've removed "al-Adharbayjani" from his name, since there is no clear proof that it was ever part of it. Islamica has his full name as "Abu al-Hasan (or Abu al-Husayn) Bahmanyar ibn al-Marzuban", while Encyclopaedia of Islam has it as "Bahmanyar ibn al-Marzuban". It is not even certain that he was from Azerbaijan, Islamica says this: "Bahmanyār is said to have been a Zoroastrian from the region of Ādharbāyjān", while Encyclopaedia of Islam doesn't even make any mention of Azerbaijan. Both sources state he may have been the son of the Bavandid ruler in Mazandaran, al-Marzuban. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 22:40, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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From the source calling him a Persian, I have seen no viable argument nor source(s) that consider him anything else. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 18:05, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
I have nothing to say. I have seen so many Wikipedia articles that attacks the history of Azerbaijan. Even his name has the word Azerbaijani. Please change this big mistake and stop attacking our history. -- Oyuncu Aykhan 3:33, 19 march 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oyuncu Aykhan ( talk • contribs)
My edit was not "unreliable self published source". My sources were from Zakir Mammadov and [2], they are reliable. Jobas ( talk) please fix this issue, because my culture and history is beign attacked. -- Oyuncu Aykhan 4:25, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Извест- ный азербайджанский философ XI в. Бахманйар ибн Марзбан был учеником знаменито- го философа Абу Али Ибн Сины.
Source Сара Ашурбейли - Государство Ширваншахов [1983], page 183 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shahanshah5 ( talk • contribs) 15:19, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Second, author of both sources is the same historian ( see /info/en/?search=Sara_Ashurbeyli ) whose sources are using on wikipedia. For example, if you'll look at sources under this article /info/en/?search=Shirvanshah, you can see ones from this author - Ashurbeyli.
We can't add your claim because:
* If you are interested in, then you can do some google.
* Saying current cited sources you mean those ones which sent LouisAragon?
* Do you mean if Ashurbeyli is reliable historian on Shirvanshah article she may be non-reliable historian on Bahmanyar's article?
: @
Wikaviani: Have many cases when wikipedia uses just a single source.
Pan-Iranism had a brief ideological life among a small group of Iranian fascists, but has fizzled and seems unlikely to gain new life. Like pan-Turkism, its essential aims are irremediably irredentist, evoking images of Nazi-era expansionism. For pan-Iranism, the irredenta are Bahrain, parts of Afghanistan, parts of Central Asia, Caucasian Azerbaijan, and the border regions of Iraq [1]
And secondly, since all Ashurbeyli's books are focused on the territories of Azerbaijani Republic so here is clear that she wasn't caring about lands in Armenia and Iran.
References
The result of the move request was: moved. —usernamekiran (talk) 06:37, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Bahmanyār →
Bahmanyar – No need for macrons, we don't tend to use that (
WP:USEENGLISH). --
HistoryofIran (
talk)
02:42, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
I've removed "al-Adharbayjani" from his name, since there is no clear proof that it was ever part of it. Islamica has his full name as "Abu al-Hasan (or Abu al-Husayn) Bahmanyar ibn al-Marzuban", while Encyclopaedia of Islam has it as "Bahmanyar ibn al-Marzuban". It is not even certain that he was from Azerbaijan, Islamica says this: "Bahmanyār is said to have been a Zoroastrian from the region of Ādharbāyjān", while Encyclopaedia of Islam doesn't even make any mention of Azerbaijan. Both sources state he may have been the son of the Bavandid ruler in Mazandaran, al-Marzuban. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 22:40, 2 September 2020 (UTC)