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This doesn't read like an encyclopedia article, it doesn't provide any links to veify any of its claims, its references are more like spam than references, and it's totally unwikified. It might be best just to start over. Corvus cornix talk 18:07, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Please ADD schematic drawings of common headsets with key components clearly named. If possible, include schematics that represent the technological evolution of this now-ubiquitous tool of modern civilization. Thank you for considering this suggestion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.171.137.87 ( talk) 20:30, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi all,
The first sentence in this article seems kind of weird... A headset is headphones combined with a microphone, or one headphone with a microphone. I suggest changing it to A headset is a device consisting of a set of headphones combined with a microphone or mouthpiece. What do you think? Thanks, Zalunardo8 ( talk) 14:17, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
I deleted it because it was a collection of errors.
Baldwin did not invent "headsets" with microphones, as we describe the term here. Our own article on Mr. Baldwin notes that he produced the first headphones. Although the referenced newspaper article calls his "Baldy Phones" "headsets", googling for pictures of "Baldy Phones" will show that they had no mics.
The Navy's need for headphones prior to WW I would have been for reception of Morse code over radio - perhaps to pilots, but much more likely to shipboard radios. Note that the article doesn't say "for their pilots". Voice comms over radio wasn't practical yet, particularly not with airplanes.
The Navy would have had no use for headsets-with-mics for pilots prior to WW I because radios aboard airplanes at that time, if they existed at all, were receive-only, Morse-code-only affairs. It was not practical to build a headset for sending voice over radio from airplanes until vacuum tubes achieved a suitable level of capability, reliability, and miniaturization, and this did not even begin to happen until the period between the World Wars. Before the invention and practical realization of the triode RF modulator stage, voice-over-radio worked by sending the entire transmitter power through a carbon microphone, which in turn had to dissipate much of that power as heat except during modulation peaks. This could be done on a lab bench, maybe in a studio, but no way could a headset-mounted mic have handled it. Even at the start of WW II, pilots or other crew on most small aircraft could receive, but not send voice; for sending brief acknowledgements of orders, etc., they would wear a code key strapped to their thigh. (Yes, all air crew had to learn Morse Code.)
Fine (and this was in 1961) but a whole lot of other companies made with-mic headsets before that. There is no reason given here to believe that these two pilots invented the product category, only an improved version. If a much more complete history section were to be written (with, of course ,good sources) this note about the start of Plantronics would be worthy of inclusion, but as it is it's completely out of context. Useful info would be: what was the first Plantronics headset like (did they actually invent "air tube" headsets? certainly many air tube headsets were Plantronics, but...), what were headsets like before that, etc. Jeh ( talk) 08:15, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
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A history section would be good. Perhaps some of the previous section can be saved.
See also https://apex.aero/2019/02/21/sound-tube-history-airline-headsets for some headsets this article completely omits. And as it observes, they are even making a comeback. Andrewa ( talk) 19:42, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
This article fails to include headsets for two-way radios, such as Kenwood, Motorola, Icom, et many al. 2601:280:4200:613B:59EA:7C7C:65EF:592A ( talk) 15:43, 27 September 2016 (UTC)PhilN
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Quote: Most mobile phones come with their own handsfree in the form of a single earphone with a microphone module connected in the cable.
Wow, haven't seen those in ages. Maikel ( talk) 12:27, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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This doesn't read like an encyclopedia article, it doesn't provide any links to veify any of its claims, its references are more like spam than references, and it's totally unwikified. It might be best just to start over. Corvus cornix talk 18:07, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Please ADD schematic drawings of common headsets with key components clearly named. If possible, include schematics that represent the technological evolution of this now-ubiquitous tool of modern civilization. Thank you for considering this suggestion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.171.137.87 ( talk) 20:30, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi all,
The first sentence in this article seems kind of weird... A headset is headphones combined with a microphone, or one headphone with a microphone. I suggest changing it to A headset is a device consisting of a set of headphones combined with a microphone or mouthpiece. What do you think? Thanks, Zalunardo8 ( talk) 14:17, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
I deleted it because it was a collection of errors.
Baldwin did not invent "headsets" with microphones, as we describe the term here. Our own article on Mr. Baldwin notes that he produced the first headphones. Although the referenced newspaper article calls his "Baldy Phones" "headsets", googling for pictures of "Baldy Phones" will show that they had no mics.
The Navy's need for headphones prior to WW I would have been for reception of Morse code over radio - perhaps to pilots, but much more likely to shipboard radios. Note that the article doesn't say "for their pilots". Voice comms over radio wasn't practical yet, particularly not with airplanes.
The Navy would have had no use for headsets-with-mics for pilots prior to WW I because radios aboard airplanes at that time, if they existed at all, were receive-only, Morse-code-only affairs. It was not practical to build a headset for sending voice over radio from airplanes until vacuum tubes achieved a suitable level of capability, reliability, and miniaturization, and this did not even begin to happen until the period between the World Wars. Before the invention and practical realization of the triode RF modulator stage, voice-over-radio worked by sending the entire transmitter power through a carbon microphone, which in turn had to dissipate much of that power as heat except during modulation peaks. This could be done on a lab bench, maybe in a studio, but no way could a headset-mounted mic have handled it. Even at the start of WW II, pilots or other crew on most small aircraft could receive, but not send voice; for sending brief acknowledgements of orders, etc., they would wear a code key strapped to their thigh. (Yes, all air crew had to learn Morse Code.)
Fine (and this was in 1961) but a whole lot of other companies made with-mic headsets before that. There is no reason given here to believe that these two pilots invented the product category, only an improved version. If a much more complete history section were to be written (with, of course ,good sources) this note about the start of Plantronics would be worthy of inclusion, but as it is it's completely out of context. Useful info would be: what was the first Plantronics headset like (did they actually invent "air tube" headsets? certainly many air tube headsets were Plantronics, but...), what were headsets like before that, etc. Jeh ( talk) 08:15, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
References
A history section would be good. Perhaps some of the previous section can be saved.
See also https://apex.aero/2019/02/21/sound-tube-history-airline-headsets for some headsets this article completely omits. And as it observes, they are even making a comeback. Andrewa ( talk) 19:42, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
This article fails to include headsets for two-way radios, such as Kenwood, Motorola, Icom, et many al. 2601:280:4200:613B:59EA:7C7C:65EF:592A ( talk) 15:43, 27 September 2016 (UTC)PhilN
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Quote: Most mobile phones come with their own handsfree in the form of a single earphone with a microphone module connected in the cable.
Wow, haven't seen those in ages. Maikel ( talk) 12:27, 24 April 2022 (UTC)