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There's a 4m12s crossover/promo featuring Sterling Archer driving an animated Conan O'Brien around that was produced for season 6. Presumably this aired at the start of O'Briens show as it ends with Archer dropping him off (or actually kicking him out) at the studio door and O'Brien entering. Seems to be O'Brien doing his own vioce acting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.197.245.7 ( talk) 14:14, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
There seams to be a little bit of confusion. The article about season 8 says:
"This season resolves the cliffhanger from last season, which ended with Archer floating lifeless in a swimming pool after being shot several times."
Whereas the article about season 9 says:
"This means that the fate of Archer, who was found shot in actress Veronica Deane's pool at the conclusion of season seven, will remain a mystery"
What is correct and in which way? 178.24.161.220 ( talk) 08:22, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
In episode two, Archer mentions Oprah. II think that cuts through a lot of the speculation about the time period. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snookumz ( talk • contribs) 04:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
There has been no mention of Woodhouse's actual age, however, Archer did say "What, arent you like a 100 or something?" in one of the very early episodes of Season 1. (must rewatch season 1 to find the exact episode) I would take this to mean that Woodhouse is indeed over 100 years old. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.166.155.113 ( talk) 06:02, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
—–Hell i think the time frame is modern. I think the heavily dated equipment, like the mid 70's filing cabinets and carpet; also the 1987 era green monochrome; the mid 90's office phones, is just for an ironic comic relief. The "best" spy agency in the world uses heavily out dated equipment; and has failed to modernize the building in 30+years just adds more humor to the show. I think this adds a lot to the show. But if you notice that in the sat room or com room which ever you may call it, they use very modern equipment to track and locate Archer. There are some reference to Malory being a cheep scape by cutting back on funding to the modern equipment.
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However they also mention the KGB and communitst russia. Again i belive that the time peroid is a unquie one not based in reality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.112.252 ( talk) 17:30, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I just re-watched the beginning of the episode cited for them not knowing what year it is and didn't see any thing of the sort around the 2 minute mark. I believe the episode to be incorrectly cited and the statement actually in need of citation (as it specifically mentions two episodes) 98.165.109.38 ( talk) 04:58, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
It is terribly written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.74.200.239 ( talk) 23:45, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Suggestions to fixing it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.237.88.71 ( talk) 03:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Why is it not mentioned that the humor and catch phrases are largely borrowed from Frisky Dingo. Archer is essentially Xander Crews with Jon's voice instead of Adam's. Instead there are comparisons to arrested development and madmen? Whoever maintains this page desperately needs to see Frisky Dingo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.250.57.53 ( talk) 00:33, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Why not add a comment in the production section that Adam Reed borrows heavily from the Frisky Dingo phrases used. You don't have to comment about it here. You can do it on there. If someone else feels you are wrong, they'll just delete it.
My initial reaction in seeing this show was that it's very similar to The Venture Bros. in many ways (including I believe some of the same voice talent). Is this a coincidence, or is there a relationship between the two shows that could be stated here? I haven't dug anything up yet, but I may not be looking in the right places...
That might be a bit more believable had you not used the picture of Sterling... Who looks NOTHING like H. Jon Benjamin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.228.177.71 ( talk) 02:46, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
I made some great links to references made in the show and someone deleted all of them (i.e. linking just "telling Lana she's in the Danger Zone rather than spelling out the artist and song, and the fact that Kreeger calls his sex robot Fister Roboto and linking that name to Mr. Roboto ) These are good quality links.
76.237.88.71 ( talk) 07:22, 5 March 2011 (UTC) Which section do I need to be looking at? I see layered links all over wiki. The way you have it written is stale and over-informative.
I thought the butler's name was Wodehouse (the writer of Jeeves & Wooster) rather than Woodhouse (storage for wood) Can anyone confirm correct spelling? 86.63.26.124 ( talk) 21:19, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Just thought I would mention the background shot of Krieger's mutated clones in the season two episode Pipeline Fever —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.108.83 ( talk) 19:40, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone think we should make a new page specifically to character biographies like we did for the episodes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.95.59.2 ( talk) 02:28, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
This is regarding the inference that Spelvin is possibly Cyril's father. While he (Spelvin) manages to be somewhat familiar with information about Cyril, this more than likely stems from Spelvin's reseach into a possible "mark" within ISIS. The vagueness of his statements coupled with Cyril's obviously easy to read and gullible nature seem to facilitate this line of thinking. He clearly misses key details such as how Cyril disappointed his father in the past (Cyril himself has to state that it was the "Regional Spelling Bee" during the climactic ending with Spelvin), not to mention the fact that he bears no resemblance to Cyril's father in the flashbacks (though admittedly the latter may be nothing more than a simple plot device used to incorporate misdirection of this very subject). At one time I was of a similar mindset concerning the pair, but I simply cannot justify such a statement with the facts at hand. I fear that leaving things as they are may lead to confusion surrounding the two. 166.147.123.21 ( talk) 16:01, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
While it is valid for the article to make some note of the show's temporal ambiguity, in accordance with Wikipedia's rules about WP:POPCULTURE content it is not necessary for this article to obsessively document each and every last snippet of dialogue, or minor plot point, that just happens to bounce off another one in a contradictory way. The article should properly restrict itself to a couple of examples — specifically the ones, such as the contradictory status of the Soviet Union and Woodhouse's impossible age, that are actually central to the show's premise — and should not turn into a comprehensive directory of every last individual anachronism that happens to pop up in a bit of passing dialogue. Accordingly, I've trimmed that section back to a more general overview of the timeline issue, and would advise all users that we should not keep adding to it again every time the show happens to include a passing reference to Dane Cook or CSI. Only anachronisms that are central to the show's premise warrant mention. Bearcat ( talk) 22:40, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
I've always assumed that Woodhouse's name is a reference to P.G. Wodehouse (of Jeeves'n'Wooster fame) but I do not see how we can make that claim in the article without a reliable source backing it up. Without a source it is the very definition of original research. I've tagged it for now as needing a citation but if one isn't found this claim should be removed. SQGibbon ( talk) 06:45, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Was WP:BOLD and removed this claim since it has no source and appears to be the speculation of a single editor (see above), with no given reason to believe it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.20.35.20 ( talk) 09:27, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
I've never seen the show, but from seeing commercial spots, I was wondering why this show looks like it's made with the GTA boxart cartoon style. Is Archer Vice a direct reference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.239.235 ( talk) 02:09, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
A batch of edits were just made (I got emails notifying me), where someone was editing out Adam Reed's name everywhere and replacing it with Russell Crowe, as well as changing lots of words, including "Archer Vice" into "Breaking Archer" and "cocaine" into "crystal meth". I'm still learning Wikipedia, so I'm too scared to make edits, so someone with experience please undo all edits made by IP 96.39.1.206. Thank you! :)
LocalNet ( talk) 16:44, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
The second paragraph of the introduction is meaningless to someone who has no clue what the show is about, and seems less valuable to the introduction than a paragraph actually explaining what the show is about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.64.27.39 ( talk) 05:24, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm a huge fan of this show, but the "Relation to Other Media" section just does not seem encyclopedic and reminds me of the days when every article would have a long "references in other media" section. I think this section should either be deleted or greatly condensed. 2601:D:5E81:EBA4:8D1B:1BD7:50DE:8928 ( talk) 04:50, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
What is the picture of Salvador Dali doing in the article? -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. ( talk) 11:49, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
With all due respect to User:Twofingered Typist his recent edit is incorrect, Hulu doesn't not necessarily have exclusive rights to air Archer episodes which are actually still available on the FXNetworks.com website. YborCityJohn ( talk) 14:17, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
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Looks like this has been waiting for review for long enough. I intend to get some thoughts up here pretty soon. -
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Here are some things that I think should be addressed before this article is promoted to GA:
Have a go at those, and let me know when you are done / if you have any questions. - adamstom97 ( talk) 02:08, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. There is a consensus to move the page per the discussion below. ( page mover nac) Flooded with them hundreds 14:32, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Archer (TV series) → Archer (2009 TV series) – Needs to be disambiguated with the stub article of Archer (1975 TV series), per WP:PDAB. While the animated 2009 series is much more relevant, you can't be the primary topic of a partially disambiguated term (see WP:PDAB). Per Wikipedia's established guidelines, this page would either need to be at " Archer" itself (extremely unlikely) or at " Archer (2009 TV series)" (fully disambiguated). The incomplete disambiguation of "Archer (TV series)" would then redirect to the disambiguation page ( Archer (disambiguation)).
Additionally, these category moves would need to occur:
Thanks. Paintspot Infez ( talk) 12:15, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
There's a TV show called Burn Notice who's lead actor seems to be modeled (at least physically) from Sterling Archer, and in the premise of the show, the "burn notice" is something that happened in one of the Archer episodes. I don't know if the "Burn Notice" tv show predates the use of the "burn notice" as a plot element in Archer - or vice-versa. 45.74.106.66 ( talk) 02:56, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Archer wasn't cancelled. It came to an end. Everyone wanted to end the series. In fact, it was supposed to end several seasons before. Please use the correct terminology. "Ending" a series is not the same as "cancellation". Barney Miller was ended, Firefly was cancelled. A Cancellation is when a Network Executive decides to end the show without further production. Cancellations are also announced as cancellations. In Archer's Case everyone involved chose to end it, and no cancellation announcement was ever made. 2600:6C67:2300:3A00:6DF6:AECA:11A:6D73 ( talk) 07:12, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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There's a 4m12s crossover/promo featuring Sterling Archer driving an animated Conan O'Brien around that was produced for season 6. Presumably this aired at the start of O'Briens show as it ends with Archer dropping him off (or actually kicking him out) at the studio door and O'Brien entering. Seems to be O'Brien doing his own vioce acting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.197.245.7 ( talk) 14:14, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
There seams to be a little bit of confusion. The article about season 8 says:
"This season resolves the cliffhanger from last season, which ended with Archer floating lifeless in a swimming pool after being shot several times."
Whereas the article about season 9 says:
"This means that the fate of Archer, who was found shot in actress Veronica Deane's pool at the conclusion of season seven, will remain a mystery"
What is correct and in which way? 178.24.161.220 ( talk) 08:22, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
In episode two, Archer mentions Oprah. II think that cuts through a lot of the speculation about the time period. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snookumz ( talk • contribs) 04:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
There has been no mention of Woodhouse's actual age, however, Archer did say "What, arent you like a 100 or something?" in one of the very early episodes of Season 1. (must rewatch season 1 to find the exact episode) I would take this to mean that Woodhouse is indeed over 100 years old. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.166.155.113 ( talk) 06:02, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
—–Hell i think the time frame is modern. I think the heavily dated equipment, like the mid 70's filing cabinets and carpet; also the 1987 era green monochrome; the mid 90's office phones, is just for an ironic comic relief. The "best" spy agency in the world uses heavily out dated equipment; and has failed to modernize the building in 30+years just adds more humor to the show. I think this adds a lot to the show. But if you notice that in the sat room or com room which ever you may call it, they use very modern equipment to track and locate Archer. There are some reference to Malory being a cheep scape by cutting back on funding to the modern equipment.
Rippey574 (
talk)
10:18, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
However they also mention the KGB and communitst russia. Again i belive that the time peroid is a unquie one not based in reality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.112.252 ( talk) 17:30, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I just re-watched the beginning of the episode cited for them not knowing what year it is and didn't see any thing of the sort around the 2 minute mark. I believe the episode to be incorrectly cited and the statement actually in need of citation (as it specifically mentions two episodes) 98.165.109.38 ( talk) 04:58, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
It is terribly written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.74.200.239 ( talk) 23:45, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Suggestions to fixing it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.237.88.71 ( talk) 03:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Why is it not mentioned that the humor and catch phrases are largely borrowed from Frisky Dingo. Archer is essentially Xander Crews with Jon's voice instead of Adam's. Instead there are comparisons to arrested development and madmen? Whoever maintains this page desperately needs to see Frisky Dingo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.250.57.53 ( talk) 00:33, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Why not add a comment in the production section that Adam Reed borrows heavily from the Frisky Dingo phrases used. You don't have to comment about it here. You can do it on there. If someone else feels you are wrong, they'll just delete it.
My initial reaction in seeing this show was that it's very similar to The Venture Bros. in many ways (including I believe some of the same voice talent). Is this a coincidence, or is there a relationship between the two shows that could be stated here? I haven't dug anything up yet, but I may not be looking in the right places...
That might be a bit more believable had you not used the picture of Sterling... Who looks NOTHING like H. Jon Benjamin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.228.177.71 ( talk) 02:46, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
I made some great links to references made in the show and someone deleted all of them (i.e. linking just "telling Lana she's in the Danger Zone rather than spelling out the artist and song, and the fact that Kreeger calls his sex robot Fister Roboto and linking that name to Mr. Roboto ) These are good quality links.
76.237.88.71 ( talk) 07:22, 5 March 2011 (UTC) Which section do I need to be looking at? I see layered links all over wiki. The way you have it written is stale and over-informative.
I thought the butler's name was Wodehouse (the writer of Jeeves & Wooster) rather than Woodhouse (storage for wood) Can anyone confirm correct spelling? 86.63.26.124 ( talk) 21:19, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Just thought I would mention the background shot of Krieger's mutated clones in the season two episode Pipeline Fever —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.108.83 ( talk) 19:40, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone think we should make a new page specifically to character biographies like we did for the episodes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.95.59.2 ( talk) 02:28, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
This is regarding the inference that Spelvin is possibly Cyril's father. While he (Spelvin) manages to be somewhat familiar with information about Cyril, this more than likely stems from Spelvin's reseach into a possible "mark" within ISIS. The vagueness of his statements coupled with Cyril's obviously easy to read and gullible nature seem to facilitate this line of thinking. He clearly misses key details such as how Cyril disappointed his father in the past (Cyril himself has to state that it was the "Regional Spelling Bee" during the climactic ending with Spelvin), not to mention the fact that he bears no resemblance to Cyril's father in the flashbacks (though admittedly the latter may be nothing more than a simple plot device used to incorporate misdirection of this very subject). At one time I was of a similar mindset concerning the pair, but I simply cannot justify such a statement with the facts at hand. I fear that leaving things as they are may lead to confusion surrounding the two. 166.147.123.21 ( talk) 16:01, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
While it is valid for the article to make some note of the show's temporal ambiguity, in accordance with Wikipedia's rules about WP:POPCULTURE content it is not necessary for this article to obsessively document each and every last snippet of dialogue, or minor plot point, that just happens to bounce off another one in a contradictory way. The article should properly restrict itself to a couple of examples — specifically the ones, such as the contradictory status of the Soviet Union and Woodhouse's impossible age, that are actually central to the show's premise — and should not turn into a comprehensive directory of every last individual anachronism that happens to pop up in a bit of passing dialogue. Accordingly, I've trimmed that section back to a more general overview of the timeline issue, and would advise all users that we should not keep adding to it again every time the show happens to include a passing reference to Dane Cook or CSI. Only anachronisms that are central to the show's premise warrant mention. Bearcat ( talk) 22:40, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
I've always assumed that Woodhouse's name is a reference to P.G. Wodehouse (of Jeeves'n'Wooster fame) but I do not see how we can make that claim in the article without a reliable source backing it up. Without a source it is the very definition of original research. I've tagged it for now as needing a citation but if one isn't found this claim should be removed. SQGibbon ( talk) 06:45, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Was WP:BOLD and removed this claim since it has no source and appears to be the speculation of a single editor (see above), with no given reason to believe it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.20.35.20 ( talk) 09:27, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
I've never seen the show, but from seeing commercial spots, I was wondering why this show looks like it's made with the GTA boxart cartoon style. Is Archer Vice a direct reference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.239.235 ( talk) 02:09, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
A batch of edits were just made (I got emails notifying me), where someone was editing out Adam Reed's name everywhere and replacing it with Russell Crowe, as well as changing lots of words, including "Archer Vice" into "Breaking Archer" and "cocaine" into "crystal meth". I'm still learning Wikipedia, so I'm too scared to make edits, so someone with experience please undo all edits made by IP 96.39.1.206. Thank you! :)
LocalNet ( talk) 16:44, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
The second paragraph of the introduction is meaningless to someone who has no clue what the show is about, and seems less valuable to the introduction than a paragraph actually explaining what the show is about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.64.27.39 ( talk) 05:24, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm a huge fan of this show, but the "Relation to Other Media" section just does not seem encyclopedic and reminds me of the days when every article would have a long "references in other media" section. I think this section should either be deleted or greatly condensed. 2601:D:5E81:EBA4:8D1B:1BD7:50DE:8928 ( talk) 04:50, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
What is the picture of Salvador Dali doing in the article? -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. ( talk) 11:49, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
With all due respect to User:Twofingered Typist his recent edit is incorrect, Hulu doesn't not necessarily have exclusive rights to air Archer episodes which are actually still available on the FXNetworks.com website. YborCityJohn ( talk) 14:17, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
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Looks like this has been waiting for review for long enough. I intend to get some thoughts up here pretty soon. -
adamstom97 (
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22:17, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Here are some things that I think should be addressed before this article is promoted to GA:
Have a go at those, and let me know when you are done / if you have any questions. - adamstom97 ( talk) 02:08, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. There is a consensus to move the page per the discussion below. ( page mover nac) Flooded with them hundreds 14:32, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Archer (TV series) → Archer (2009 TV series) – Needs to be disambiguated with the stub article of Archer (1975 TV series), per WP:PDAB. While the animated 2009 series is much more relevant, you can't be the primary topic of a partially disambiguated term (see WP:PDAB). Per Wikipedia's established guidelines, this page would either need to be at " Archer" itself (extremely unlikely) or at " Archer (2009 TV series)" (fully disambiguated). The incomplete disambiguation of "Archer (TV series)" would then redirect to the disambiguation page ( Archer (disambiguation)).
Additionally, these category moves would need to occur:
Thanks. Paintspot Infez ( talk) 12:15, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
There's a TV show called Burn Notice who's lead actor seems to be modeled (at least physically) from Sterling Archer, and in the premise of the show, the "burn notice" is something that happened in one of the Archer episodes. I don't know if the "Burn Notice" tv show predates the use of the "burn notice" as a plot element in Archer - or vice-versa. 45.74.106.66 ( talk) 02:56, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Archer wasn't cancelled. It came to an end. Everyone wanted to end the series. In fact, it was supposed to end several seasons before. Please use the correct terminology. "Ending" a series is not the same as "cancellation". Barney Miller was ended, Firefly was cancelled. A Cancellation is when a Network Executive decides to end the show without further production. Cancellations are also announced as cancellations. In Archer's Case everyone involved chose to end it, and no cancellation announcement was ever made. 2600:6C67:2300:3A00:6DF6:AECA:11A:6D73 ( talk) 07:12, 12 January 2024 (UTC)