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How is this a limitation of Apple TV? — Tokek ( talk) 20:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
With the release of 2.1 does this section need to be updated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mondaig ( talk • contribs) 02:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The article has been updated for Take 2, and the point update didn't change anything except add "genres" and fix bugs. TMC1221 ( talk) 01:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
This section is in dire need of an update since the new Apple TV software has been released and it looks (and feels, for that matter) completely different. Demosthenes, blog 20:26, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Why are we calling it 10.4.7 based when it should just be called Apple TV OS 2.3, based on Tiger, etc? We don't call the iPhone's OS 10.5.X, but iPhone OS. Nja247 ( talk • contribs) 07:08, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if this fits in Wikipedia but it seems that apple tv isn't entirely profitable. This site includes lots of info so should this info be included? http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2007/tc20070606_984317.htm?specialreport=iphone —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diaa abdelmoneim ( talk • contribs) 07:21, November 25, 2008
Any ideas of how we can incorporate future functionality, such as the Magic Wand patent without straying into opinion/rumor/conjecture? Perhaps we shouldn't?
76.164.114.151 ( talk) 14:08, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
In the specifications there was a section at the bottom for disclaimers. if there is need to do this use citations. I have moved the 'disclaimers' into there appropriate sections
Remeber this is not an advert for Apple TV
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Apple TV is "simple to operate"
the beginning line of this section should be changed to "Apple Inc aims for", "Apple Inc says". At the moment this looks to be subjective/ and to be advertising rather than objective 60.241.85.126 ( talk) 02:20, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
"Apple also offers 4 Mbit/s H.264 720p HD movies for rental via iTunes.[136] For comparison, broadcast and cable HD movies are up to 19 Mbit/s MPEG2 720p and Blu-ray HD movies are up to 40 Mbit/s H.264 or VC-1 1080p."
Comparing 4 Mbit/s H.264 against 19 Mbit/s MPEG2 is meaningless, and will suggest to the lay-person that the former is worse quality, which may or may not be the case. They're different codecs so a bitrate comparison is meaningless and even misleading. -- 58.28.152.52 ( talk) 04:50, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
A computer is a programmable machine that receives input, stores and manipulates data//information, and provides output in a useful format.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer
I am not sure why we need this comparison in the article any longer for the following reasons:
A computer is a programmable machine that receives input, stores and manipulates data//information, and provides output in a useful format.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer
All of these points were made in the article, but they continue to be removed for some "pro-Mac Mini/anti-Apple TV" purpose. The original intent of this particular content was to show how the Apple TV was a natural migration from OS X Front Row (iMac, Mac Mini, etc.) to an "easier-to-setup and use" Apple device (with a more robust Front Row interface). Since the original content was included, Front Row has changed on both OS X and Apple TV, but not enough to justify that the Mac Mini is a premium Apple TV device (which it isn't). 13:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aswick ( talk • contribs)
Your latest version of the Mac Mini comparison looks better, but I still think the only way to do an even comparison is to look at each of the ATV features to see how each solution will fare. Following is an example:
Connectivity
Internet media services
AirTunes
Remote control
Local Network Media
Look and Feel
Content Support
-- 17:49, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm up for making the comparison more exhaustive, but it may exceed what we'd want in this article. I think the original purpose of this section was to a) present fundamental factual differences and b) acknowledge that comparison between the two are common. While I agree some Windows PCs could be compared to ATV, the mini is a lot closer to the ATV than anything out there. As for your list above, I can see where we could get bogged down on the basis of comparison so perhaps we can agree on fundamentals - let the ATV article speak for the ATV and this section can highlight major differences. I'd add we probably don't want to use hacked ATVs for comparison since that's not a common or Apple supported application. Mattnad ( talk) 18:35, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
There are parts of this section that have long series of citations supporting a short sentence or two I’m wondering whether editors closer to the content can pick a few key citations to provide the needed support rather than the long lists we have now. Mattnad ( talk) 20:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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I'd like to add a few things that were not mentioned. Warrior 4321 03:38, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
AshtonBenson ( talk · contribs) Can someone please remove that badly source content he keeps adding? And also back me up here that we need content to be backed up by reliable sources and we don't accept anonymous discussion forums as reliable sources? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 22:51, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Just as a warning, sockpuppetry is a violation of Wikipedia policy and will result in bans. I don't know if 166.191.63.193 ( talk · contribs) is AshtonBenson or not, but based on this edit, I would say so. I'd seriously recommend cutting out any sort of activity like that. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 20:40, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Just as a warning, meatpuppetry is a violation of Wikipedia policy and will result in bans. I don't know if User:HelloAnnyong is AlistairMcMillan or not, but based on this edit, I would say so. I'd seriously recommend cutting out any sort of activity like that. AshtonBenson ( talk) 20:05, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Moving beyond AshtonBenson concerns about meapuppetry, the issue as far as I can tell is there is no reliable source to support an observation that has come up in forums and user reviews that the ATV does not send a signal to power down a monitor. The Apple Support document cited does not bring up this issue directly (but it can be inferred from that document if you're aware of an alternative approach).
So really, per WP:RS, we don't have anything that qualifies to support that claim. Unfortunately, forums and user reviews are not reliable sources. Anyone can post in a forum (no matter how official) and anyone can post a review on Amazon but that does not make it a reliable source. Personally, I don't think it's an incorrect observation of a limitation, but since this has been challenged, we need something a bit more concrete than what has been provided.
If we can't come to an agreement here, would a review on the reliable sources noticeboard ( WP:RSN) help settle things? Mattnad ( talk) 13:45, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
There has not been a single shred of evidence presented that the Apple TV has support for DMPM. I see no reason to continue this debate until such evidence is presented. AshtonBenson ( talk) 01:03, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Just as an update: per this edit on RSN, that makes four editors who don't believe the sources support the text. At this point I think a consensus has been established, and we really have only one very tendentious editor. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 19:53, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
One added point. I note that AshtonBenson is believes this claim has been "widely reported." Showing up in a few forums and possibly user reviews is not "widely reported." Putting aside our reliable source concerns what you cited is extremely narrow in "reporting", indirect, and anecdotal. The stolen iPhone prototype is an example of a "widely reported" story. Mattnad ( talk) 19:45, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Grumble grumble. . . I really was hoping to keep my beginner contributing out of here, but my linguistics are apparently needed. Mattnad, obviously you are the maintainer here, now I am going to teach you some English. A report is a notification that something has occurred, hence the report of a firework. So, reports issued in forums are reports. News reports are very different to individual incident reports. You exampled the iPhone prototype articles. There was actually only one or two source reports that were parroted by the masses. Then there are the EVO 4G screen spot issues that are not widely reported by news outlets but are very easily found on forums (it has happened to me twice). Yes, forums are normally bad news bears for this type of information, but the rules set forth are to prevent misinformation. The issue, if verifiable by enough sources, should be taken into consideration as a possible addition. Which is what the Talk page is for. Some facts might not be published by a 'trusted' editorial, but they are facts nonetheless. To the Editors hawking this page, as editors you must use one or two neurons to decide if, in fact, the information is completely untrue or not. Wikipedia is not legally liable if a statement it makes is true. The reliable sources guidelines are guidelines. If you are going to be overzealous about something that can be proven as fact then there is a content bias. In the matter at hand, any single positive result for the existence of DMPM that can be considered reliable then the matter is settled. Also: [3] Apple released information regarding the Apple TV NOT turning displays off. I believe that is the issue found on all the forums. I'm just saying: you guys were wrong. Daniellis89 ( talk) 01:01, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Apple_TV_and_discussion_about_Digital_Monitor_Power_Management where I've posted our dispute for third-party assistance. Mattnad ( talk) 21:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
The labelling of ref 129 appears to be out of uniform with the rest. Usually the comma comes before the ref, and ref 129 is the only area where it comes after.(According to the "Find" option on my browser) mechamind 9 0 07:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Sbmeirow ( talk) 22:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
These are not limitations. These are features that were deliberately left out. So for instance, you could also argue that the AppleTV does not have a screen like newer TVs that include netflix and other video on demand services. And if these things you list were added, you get a home theater PC that would cost more than $99, be a lot larger, and use a lot more energy. Mattnad ( talk) 23:07, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
These are limitations. However shouldn't the wikipedia page maybe talk about how it is 'different' and list the actual things it can do and maybe how it is different to previous models not just what is possible on other media centers. As for personal opinion at $100 not supporting 1080p is pretty poor in comparison to the competition. 195.10.10.180 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:10, 2 September 2010 (UTC).
I vote a comparison to Boxee Box, Google TV and Roku. Daniellis89 ( talk) 01:03, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
References
The sidebar right now shows the thing using an intel CPU, which is true of all the old models with hard drives. But the new model unveiled the other day uses Apple's own A4 chip, like the iPad or iPhone, instead. It's ARM-based, not x86-based. Here's the necessary cite:
http://www.apple.com/appletv/specs.html
I'm not sure how to integrate that info into the article with correct formatting, and since we're really talking about two different hardware device families with a lot of different specs, I'm not even sure what the right overall approach to take is. (Split into two articles? Two sections with two different sidebars? List of options within the sidebar?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dfjdejulio ( talk • contribs) 20:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
The specifications table for the original ATV says "1080p/1080i 60/50Hz (but maximum video resolution is 720p)". Can someone explain how it's both 1080P/1080i when it also says the maximum video resolution is 720p? Wouldn't that be 720P then without mention of 1080p/1080i? Mattnad ( talk) 18:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
I believe ifixit found that the newest apple tv has an 8 GB hard drive. The article says it has none at all. We might want to fix that. Or am i wrong? -- 69.242.155.122 ( talk) 22:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Are we sure that the 8 Gb flash memory is "for caching purposes"? That doesn't sound right. You only need to cache 5-20 seconds at most, and 8 Gb is four hours at the iTunes HDTV data rate. Also, Flash has a limited number of write cycles, so is best for data that sticks around for a while, like programs and user data, not caching. The 256 MB of ram would be better for that. Algr ( talk) 20:24, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
The source, ifixit suggested that it used it for caching. I see what you're saying though. Unfortunately, we probably won't ever have a solid answer unless apple tells us. -- Thekmc ( talk) 00:35, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, it probably does hold the OS. I think the general consensus is that it is also for buffering video. I put in the article that it was for caching, but maybe we should change that. Or we could just take the part out all together. -- Thekmc ( talk) 01:22, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
The link supporting the statement on closed-captioning is dead, and I don't believe the statement about subtitles is still accurate. Is there another supporting link? -- Skeptict ( talk) 12:53, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
This very long list, Apple_TV#Version_history, with software changes (big and/or insignificant) is not really encyclopedic. I'm thinking this is too detailed and clutters the the article. Any comments? I'd like to remove it completely. Mattnad ( talk) 18:37, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Some information belongs to both Apple TV 1 and 2, other to only one generation, sometimes this is indicated, sometimes it is not. I think the best thing the maintainers of this article could do, is to divide it into two sections, one for each generation, and duplicate information that still applies to Apple TV 2. Thyl Engelhardt 213.70.217.172 ( talk) 15:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Can Apple TVs really not display PNG images? They're not listed in supported image formats in this article. Michael Reineke ( talk) 18:30, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
As a user of the 2nd generation AppleTV I have found the limitations below. (Do they really need to be referenced before they can be accepted as true?)
Also I agree that quite a few points in the article are unclear as to whether they apply to the first or second generation. These points should be clarified, and/or the article should be reorganised into two section (or split into two articles?).
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Apple Plots Its TV Assault 19.December.2011 97.87.29.188 ( talk) 23:36, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
As I understand it, the 2nd & 3rd gen ATVs do not have user accessible storage, whereas the first gen ATVs had 40GB & 160GB versions. This large disk space was used for synchronization of content onto the 1st gen ATVs, allowed the computer from which they were sync'ed to be shutdown.
The first three paragraphs under "Local Sources" would seem to indicate that sync'ing is available for all ATVs, since it does not seem to frame the sync'ing information as pertaining to only the first gen models.
Has this been discussed, and am I missing something here? jeff ( talk) 09:03, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Is this waiting on anything? The third gen. has some significant differences that should be outlined. Sam metal ( talk) 15:32, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Will anything on my iPhone 4s play on appletv thru my wifi connection. I do have itunes latest ios on my PC and have home sharing on! Bill B 23 Sept 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.8.178.36 ( talk) 00:32, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
"Attempts to sync unsupported content to Apple TV will draw an error message from iTunes."
This doesn't make sense. 77Mike77 ( talk) 18:42, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
Would it be appropriate to add information regarding the replacement program for some of the 3rd gen Apple TVs that were having wifi issues? OrangeJacketGuy ( talk) 20:43, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Apparently the Apple TV software update for 6.0 has been pulled for OTA, and allegedly the reason for this is that it's bricked a good quantity of Apple TVs. Where could I possibly source this? RIght now it's just a bunch of 2nd-hand info and shouldn't be included -- yet. OrangeJacketGuy ( talk) 17:57, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
The list of features includes a disorganized and jumbled list of sources that could be better organized in a table. Also listing whether a cableTV subscription is required or if a subscription to the channel itself is required for viewing. That would help a lot of cord-cutters and others looking for info on how much it will cost to supplement viewing habits. Chicknfood ( talk) 01:45, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
I have created a new category for tvOS (Apple TV) software. If you encounter any articles that have Apple TV apps, please tag them with Category:TvOS software.
Thanks, Daylen ( talk) 02:34, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
In response to this edit the only applicable section I could find was Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trademarks which states to avoid stylization "unless a significant majority of reliable sources that are independent of the subject consistently include the special character when discussing the subject", and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Proper names: "Exceptions are made when the lowercase variant has received regular and established use in reliable third party sources". Apple refers to the OS exclusively as lower-case "tvOS", similar to iOS, and virtually every reference in news media is as "tvOS", never "TvOS". "TvOS" itself is an awkward halfway capitalization as TV is an initialism, if stylized capitalization was truly being ignored it would be "TVOS".-- Shivertimbers433 ( talk) 06:33, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
as long as this is a style already in widespread use". Likewise this isn't exactly CamelCaseo so those exceptions don't apply. The "
trademarks that begin with a lowercase letter" section has rules for dealing with all lowercase, and a single lower case letter ( the iPod/eBay ) exception. The closest rule that I could find would be to use all caps per "
Using all caps is preferred if the letters are pronounced individually", which mean that choices probably should be between "tvOS" and "TVOS". PaleAqua ( talk) 02:36, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
if it is done universally by sourcesfor the all lowercase case. PaleAqua ( talk) 09:03, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Done - TVOS, done as per guideline recommendation, with the usual lead to show stylisation per other Apple pages. Thanks.
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What is meant by "obsolete" in the technical specifications section, and what is the source for attaching that designation? Earlier versions still function to watch TV shows, listen to music, etc., don't they? In what sense are they obsolete? - Pete Forsyth ( talk) 21:51, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
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You can find the model number of your Apple TV by navigating inside your Apple TV to Settings, then General, and then About, and doing a web search for the model number shown there. For example, if you have model MC572LL/A, then you have a second generation Apple TV. It's important to determine the generation of your device before starting any modification process. Not all modifications work on all generations. Presently there is no way to jailbreak a third generation Apple TV. During the days of the release of the first generation of Apple TV, various non-commercial and commercial hacks became available. These allowed users to remotely access the device, add support for other codecs, install a full-blown copy of Mac OS X Leopard and Mac OS X Tiger, access the hard drive via USB, use the device to browse the web, use non-Apple remote controls, and download metadata from the IMDb. [1] [2] In mid-2008, Fire Core released the aTV Flash software, which gives the Apple TV support for other media formats, a web browser, external USB hard drive support, and more. [3] A free and open-source alternative, atvusb-creator, does much the same using a simple graphical interface on both Mac and Windows. [Please note that the Fire Core software support appears to be available and the majority of user hackable features including, the use of XBMC, is outdated and will not update properly]. As of June 2011, Apple does not prevent users from modifying their Apple TVs, but does warn that applying hacks may void the product's warranty. [4] Installing updates for the Apple TV system software typically removes software hacks, but major Apple TV hacks are updated regularly. [5] Most plugins for Front Row are minor and have not been updated to work with Apple TV running Apple TV Software 2.x. AwkwardTV reports 10 plugins out of 32 have been certified compatible with the "Take Two" update. [6] Popular modifications include replacing/complementing Apple TV's Front Row interface with alternative media center software, including Plex, XBMC Media Center, and Boxee. [1] [7] Though Boxee installs a Netflix Watch Instantly plugin, the Apple TV does not have enough processing power to run the Silverlight framework that the Netflix plugin depends on. [8] [9] Users have also upgraded the first generation's internal hard drive. [10] A hardware hack allows the first generation of Apple TV to output color through composite video. [11] True 1080p playback and video output can be enabled on the first generation Apple TV by using the update software feature in the General menu, or by the more costly method of installing a Broadcom CrystalHD PCI-e card [12] and version 10.0 (Dharma) and later of XBMC running on Linux instead of the native Mac OS X 10.4.x based operating system. This has been available since June 2010 and was originally created by Sam Nazarko. In March 2011, Nazarko released a GUI installer for both Linux and Windows platforms allowing quick installation of his minimal distribution. citation needed The distribution offers PVR support and AirPlay and still receives updates to this day. [13] The AirPlay video and photo streaming feature was previously available on the first generation by installing the Remote HD plugin, Plex or XBMC Media Center. [14] References
The Apple TV (2nd generation) is the first to have an operating system based on a version of iOS. Developers have applied iOS jailbreaking so that software unapproved by Apple that may void the warranty may be installed on this model of Apple TV. This can be accomplished by downloading the Apple TV's firmware from Apple's servers, then using a custom firmware application like Seas0nPass [1] or PwnageTool [2] to create a custom firmware. Users then connect their Apple TV to iTunes, place the Apple TV in DFU mode, and restore the custom firmware to the Apple TV. This custom firmware provides SSH support to the device where users may use APT to install software to the device, or a GUI version similar to Cydia called NitoTV which includes access to software drivers to enable the built-in Bluetooth functions. There is a limited amount of Apple TV compatible software. On January 20, 2011, the XBMC team released the first official version of XBMC Media Center for this second generation device. A limited thin client release of Plex Media Center has also been released. when? 2nd generation Apple TV's are significantly more expensive in second-hand markets than the 3rd, due to this jailbreaking ability. [3] [4] [5] [6] In February 2011, Greenpois0n RC6 brought full untethered jailbreak support for second generation on iOS 4.2.1 with a simpler jailbreak method than Seas0nPass or PwnageTool. [7] References
The Apple TV (3rd generation) was released in March 2012. Four years since the device's release, the hacker community has failed to jailbreak the third generation device. According to FireCore LLC, there is a group of individuals attempting to discover a method to jailbreak the device. However, many leaders in the Apple TV hacker community have admitted defeat. The bootrom of Apple TV has been hardened to defend against the exploit used to jailbreak the second generation of Apple TV. A bootrom-level exploit is needed for a jailbreak because Apple TV disables its Micro-USB port until the device is fully booted. Plexconnect (giving Plex functionality) is available without a jailbreak for 2nd and 3rd generation. [1] [2] References
On March 23, 2016, The Pangu Team released a jailbreak tool for the 4th generation Apple TV running tvOS 9.0-9.0.1 that provides SSH access so that developers can port their jailbreak apps from iOS to tvOS. It doesn't provide a graphical interface such as Cydia and is unlikely to be used by the end user. In addition, the jailbreak requires a Mac with Xcode installed in order to install the jailbreak. [1] References
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Despite the article being promoted to good article status, there are still a ton of unreferenced claims in the article and the accessibility section is completely unreferenced. I suggest demoting this from good article status until the problems are fixed. 344917661X ( talk) 20:03, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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This section does not discuss development of the Apple TV product. It lists an incomplete smattering of historical products and false starts which happen to have some association with TV. None are even antecedent to the product being discussed.
The fourth paragraph is reports of debunked rumours. These might as well be categorised as fan fiction, though they were widely reported at the time. This historical tidbit might still have some place in the article, but certainly not under the heading of "Development."
At minimum, the section should be renamed to better reflect its content. However in my opinion none of it is relevant to the article and deletion should be considered. Simon Wright ( talk) 04:54, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Apple did not discontinue the 64Gb version of Apple TV 5th Generation (4K). The current article states Following the announcement of the new models, the 64 GB version of the 4th generation Apple TV was discontinued.[61].. The [61] reference points to https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/09/apple-tv-4k-brings-home-the-magic-of-cinema-with-4k-and-hdr/ where it states Apple TV 4K starts at $179 (US) for 32GB or $199 (US) for 64GB.
Should the sentence "It also has the ability to pair with an iPhone's ambient light sensor to optimize its color output" be here? This is more of a function of tvOS than the Apple TV. When updated updated to the tvOS 14.5 beta, the 5th generation (4K, 2017) model supports this as well. I have heard, but can't confirm, that this feature also works with 4th generation (HD).
SANSd20 ( talk) 17:56, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
At 6 generations, I am wondering why we have not considered splitting this article. It's pretty large at this point and I feel like it would be less cluttered if each generation had their own page. The iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch get this treatment, so why not the Apple TV? The Apple TV has not been updated very consistently, but there will be a 7th generation pretty certainly given 8K coming. Subscribe to me ( talk) 17:54, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Propose I think the article should be divided into pages for each generation of Apple TV and that we keep the original page, with just a brief summary of it. Currently the page is way too long, as seen in the infobox and Subheadings. This makes the article very confusing to read TapticInfo ( talk) 20:01, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
The introduction to the article states that the Apple TV gives users access to, among other things, "TV Everywhere-based cables and broadcastings, and sports league journalisms." Is this (cables, broadcastings, journalisms) typical industry jargon, or am I correct in thinking that this is a case of poor (possibly nonexistent) word choice? Illini407 talk 19:48, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
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The following text appeared in the "Background" section but refers to events well after the 2006 release of the first-ten Apple TV. I'm moving it here in case anyone wants to do anything with it. PRRfan ( talk) 01:35, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Starting in 2009, Gene Munster, an investment banking analyst at Piper Sandler Companies, speculated that Apple would announce an HD television set to compete with TVs made by Sony, LG, Samsung, and others. [1] According to Steve Jobs's 2011 biography, Jobs had found a breakthrough that would have made an Apple television commercially viable. [2] [3] However, the project was cancelled in 2014 and was never released. [4]
At a March 2019 Apple special event, Apple announced the Apple TV+ streaming service, as well as Apple TV app that integrate movies from other Video on demand services. This was interpreted by media outlets as a departure from Apple's earlier strategy of looking for a killer application that would boost their set top box's market share. [5] [6] PRRfan ( talk) 01:35, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
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How is this a limitation of Apple TV? — Tokek ( talk) 20:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
With the release of 2.1 does this section need to be updated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mondaig ( talk • contribs) 02:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The article has been updated for Take 2, and the point update didn't change anything except add "genres" and fix bugs. TMC1221 ( talk) 01:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
This section is in dire need of an update since the new Apple TV software has been released and it looks (and feels, for that matter) completely different. Demosthenes, blog 20:26, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Why are we calling it 10.4.7 based when it should just be called Apple TV OS 2.3, based on Tiger, etc? We don't call the iPhone's OS 10.5.X, but iPhone OS. Nja247 ( talk • contribs) 07:08, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if this fits in Wikipedia but it seems that apple tv isn't entirely profitable. This site includes lots of info so should this info be included? http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2007/tc20070606_984317.htm?specialreport=iphone —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diaa abdelmoneim ( talk • contribs) 07:21, November 25, 2008
Any ideas of how we can incorporate future functionality, such as the Magic Wand patent without straying into opinion/rumor/conjecture? Perhaps we shouldn't?
76.164.114.151 ( talk) 14:08, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
In the specifications there was a section at the bottom for disclaimers. if there is need to do this use citations. I have moved the 'disclaimers' into there appropriate sections
Remeber this is not an advert for Apple TV
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Apple TV is "simple to operate"
the beginning line of this section should be changed to "Apple Inc aims for", "Apple Inc says". At the moment this looks to be subjective/ and to be advertising rather than objective 60.241.85.126 ( talk) 02:20, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
"Apple also offers 4 Mbit/s H.264 720p HD movies for rental via iTunes.[136] For comparison, broadcast and cable HD movies are up to 19 Mbit/s MPEG2 720p and Blu-ray HD movies are up to 40 Mbit/s H.264 or VC-1 1080p."
Comparing 4 Mbit/s H.264 against 19 Mbit/s MPEG2 is meaningless, and will suggest to the lay-person that the former is worse quality, which may or may not be the case. They're different codecs so a bitrate comparison is meaningless and even misleading. -- 58.28.152.52 ( talk) 04:50, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
A computer is a programmable machine that receives input, stores and manipulates data//information, and provides output in a useful format.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer
I am not sure why we need this comparison in the article any longer for the following reasons:
A computer is a programmable machine that receives input, stores and manipulates data//information, and provides output in a useful format.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer
All of these points were made in the article, but they continue to be removed for some "pro-Mac Mini/anti-Apple TV" purpose. The original intent of this particular content was to show how the Apple TV was a natural migration from OS X Front Row (iMac, Mac Mini, etc.) to an "easier-to-setup and use" Apple device (with a more robust Front Row interface). Since the original content was included, Front Row has changed on both OS X and Apple TV, but not enough to justify that the Mac Mini is a premium Apple TV device (which it isn't). 13:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aswick ( talk • contribs)
Your latest version of the Mac Mini comparison looks better, but I still think the only way to do an even comparison is to look at each of the ATV features to see how each solution will fare. Following is an example:
Connectivity
Internet media services
AirTunes
Remote control
Local Network Media
Look and Feel
Content Support
-- 17:49, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm up for making the comparison more exhaustive, but it may exceed what we'd want in this article. I think the original purpose of this section was to a) present fundamental factual differences and b) acknowledge that comparison between the two are common. While I agree some Windows PCs could be compared to ATV, the mini is a lot closer to the ATV than anything out there. As for your list above, I can see where we could get bogged down on the basis of comparison so perhaps we can agree on fundamentals - let the ATV article speak for the ATV and this section can highlight major differences. I'd add we probably don't want to use hacked ATVs for comparison since that's not a common or Apple supported application. Mattnad ( talk) 18:35, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
There are parts of this section that have long series of citations supporting a short sentence or two I’m wondering whether editors closer to the content can pick a few key citations to provide the needed support rather than the long lists we have now. Mattnad ( talk) 20:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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I am placing this article on hold pending the fixing of one {{ fact}} tag in the "Remote Control" section. References are important!-- Unionhawk Talk E-mail 21:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to add a few things that were not mentioned. Warrior 4321 03:38, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
AshtonBenson ( talk · contribs) Can someone please remove that badly source content he keeps adding? And also back me up here that we need content to be backed up by reliable sources and we don't accept anonymous discussion forums as reliable sources? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 22:51, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Just as a warning, sockpuppetry is a violation of Wikipedia policy and will result in bans. I don't know if 166.191.63.193 ( talk · contribs) is AshtonBenson or not, but based on this edit, I would say so. I'd seriously recommend cutting out any sort of activity like that. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 20:40, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Just as a warning, meatpuppetry is a violation of Wikipedia policy and will result in bans. I don't know if User:HelloAnnyong is AlistairMcMillan or not, but based on this edit, I would say so. I'd seriously recommend cutting out any sort of activity like that. AshtonBenson ( talk) 20:05, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Moving beyond AshtonBenson concerns about meapuppetry, the issue as far as I can tell is there is no reliable source to support an observation that has come up in forums and user reviews that the ATV does not send a signal to power down a monitor. The Apple Support document cited does not bring up this issue directly (but it can be inferred from that document if you're aware of an alternative approach).
So really, per WP:RS, we don't have anything that qualifies to support that claim. Unfortunately, forums and user reviews are not reliable sources. Anyone can post in a forum (no matter how official) and anyone can post a review on Amazon but that does not make it a reliable source. Personally, I don't think it's an incorrect observation of a limitation, but since this has been challenged, we need something a bit more concrete than what has been provided.
If we can't come to an agreement here, would a review on the reliable sources noticeboard ( WP:RSN) help settle things? Mattnad ( talk) 13:45, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
There has not been a single shred of evidence presented that the Apple TV has support for DMPM. I see no reason to continue this debate until such evidence is presented. AshtonBenson ( talk) 01:03, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Just as an update: per this edit on RSN, that makes four editors who don't believe the sources support the text. At this point I think a consensus has been established, and we really have only one very tendentious editor. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 19:53, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
One added point. I note that AshtonBenson is believes this claim has been "widely reported." Showing up in a few forums and possibly user reviews is not "widely reported." Putting aside our reliable source concerns what you cited is extremely narrow in "reporting", indirect, and anecdotal. The stolen iPhone prototype is an example of a "widely reported" story. Mattnad ( talk) 19:45, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Grumble grumble. . . I really was hoping to keep my beginner contributing out of here, but my linguistics are apparently needed. Mattnad, obviously you are the maintainer here, now I am going to teach you some English. A report is a notification that something has occurred, hence the report of a firework. So, reports issued in forums are reports. News reports are very different to individual incident reports. You exampled the iPhone prototype articles. There was actually only one or two source reports that were parroted by the masses. Then there are the EVO 4G screen spot issues that are not widely reported by news outlets but are very easily found on forums (it has happened to me twice). Yes, forums are normally bad news bears for this type of information, but the rules set forth are to prevent misinformation. The issue, if verifiable by enough sources, should be taken into consideration as a possible addition. Which is what the Talk page is for. Some facts might not be published by a 'trusted' editorial, but they are facts nonetheless. To the Editors hawking this page, as editors you must use one or two neurons to decide if, in fact, the information is completely untrue or not. Wikipedia is not legally liable if a statement it makes is true. The reliable sources guidelines are guidelines. If you are going to be overzealous about something that can be proven as fact then there is a content bias. In the matter at hand, any single positive result for the existence of DMPM that can be considered reliable then the matter is settled. Also: [3] Apple released information regarding the Apple TV NOT turning displays off. I believe that is the issue found on all the forums. I'm just saying: you guys were wrong. Daniellis89 ( talk) 01:01, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Apple_TV_and_discussion_about_Digital_Monitor_Power_Management where I've posted our dispute for third-party assistance. Mattnad ( talk) 21:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
The labelling of ref 129 appears to be out of uniform with the rest. Usually the comma comes before the ref, and ref 129 is the only area where it comes after.(According to the "Find" option on my browser) mechamind 9 0 07:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Sbmeirow ( talk) 22:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
These are not limitations. These are features that were deliberately left out. So for instance, you could also argue that the AppleTV does not have a screen like newer TVs that include netflix and other video on demand services. And if these things you list were added, you get a home theater PC that would cost more than $99, be a lot larger, and use a lot more energy. Mattnad ( talk) 23:07, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
These are limitations. However shouldn't the wikipedia page maybe talk about how it is 'different' and list the actual things it can do and maybe how it is different to previous models not just what is possible on other media centers. As for personal opinion at $100 not supporting 1080p is pretty poor in comparison to the competition. 195.10.10.180 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:10, 2 September 2010 (UTC).
I vote a comparison to Boxee Box, Google TV and Roku. Daniellis89 ( talk) 01:03, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
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The sidebar right now shows the thing using an intel CPU, which is true of all the old models with hard drives. But the new model unveiled the other day uses Apple's own A4 chip, like the iPad or iPhone, instead. It's ARM-based, not x86-based. Here's the necessary cite:
http://www.apple.com/appletv/specs.html
I'm not sure how to integrate that info into the article with correct formatting, and since we're really talking about two different hardware device families with a lot of different specs, I'm not even sure what the right overall approach to take is. (Split into two articles? Two sections with two different sidebars? List of options within the sidebar?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dfjdejulio ( talk • contribs) 20:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
The specifications table for the original ATV says "1080p/1080i 60/50Hz (but maximum video resolution is 720p)". Can someone explain how it's both 1080P/1080i when it also says the maximum video resolution is 720p? Wouldn't that be 720P then without mention of 1080p/1080i? Mattnad ( talk) 18:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
I believe ifixit found that the newest apple tv has an 8 GB hard drive. The article says it has none at all. We might want to fix that. Or am i wrong? -- 69.242.155.122 ( talk) 22:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Are we sure that the 8 Gb flash memory is "for caching purposes"? That doesn't sound right. You only need to cache 5-20 seconds at most, and 8 Gb is four hours at the iTunes HDTV data rate. Also, Flash has a limited number of write cycles, so is best for data that sticks around for a while, like programs and user data, not caching. The 256 MB of ram would be better for that. Algr ( talk) 20:24, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
The source, ifixit suggested that it used it for caching. I see what you're saying though. Unfortunately, we probably won't ever have a solid answer unless apple tells us. -- Thekmc ( talk) 00:35, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, it probably does hold the OS. I think the general consensus is that it is also for buffering video. I put in the article that it was for caching, but maybe we should change that. Or we could just take the part out all together. -- Thekmc ( talk) 01:22, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
The link supporting the statement on closed-captioning is dead, and I don't believe the statement about subtitles is still accurate. Is there another supporting link? -- Skeptict ( talk) 12:53, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
This very long list, Apple_TV#Version_history, with software changes (big and/or insignificant) is not really encyclopedic. I'm thinking this is too detailed and clutters the the article. Any comments? I'd like to remove it completely. Mattnad ( talk) 18:37, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Some information belongs to both Apple TV 1 and 2, other to only one generation, sometimes this is indicated, sometimes it is not. I think the best thing the maintainers of this article could do, is to divide it into two sections, one for each generation, and duplicate information that still applies to Apple TV 2. Thyl Engelhardt 213.70.217.172 ( talk) 15:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Can Apple TVs really not display PNG images? They're not listed in supported image formats in this article. Michael Reineke ( talk) 18:30, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
As a user of the 2nd generation AppleTV I have found the limitations below. (Do they really need to be referenced before they can be accepted as true?)
Also I agree that quite a few points in the article are unclear as to whether they apply to the first or second generation. These points should be clarified, and/or the article should be reorganised into two section (or split into two articles?).
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Apple Plots Its TV Assault 19.December.2011 97.87.29.188 ( talk) 23:36, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
As I understand it, the 2nd & 3rd gen ATVs do not have user accessible storage, whereas the first gen ATVs had 40GB & 160GB versions. This large disk space was used for synchronization of content onto the 1st gen ATVs, allowed the computer from which they were sync'ed to be shutdown.
The first three paragraphs under "Local Sources" would seem to indicate that sync'ing is available for all ATVs, since it does not seem to frame the sync'ing information as pertaining to only the first gen models.
Has this been discussed, and am I missing something here? jeff ( talk) 09:03, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Is this waiting on anything? The third gen. has some significant differences that should be outlined. Sam metal ( talk) 15:32, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Will anything on my iPhone 4s play on appletv thru my wifi connection. I do have itunes latest ios on my PC and have home sharing on! Bill B 23 Sept 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.8.178.36 ( talk) 00:32, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
"Attempts to sync unsupported content to Apple TV will draw an error message from iTunes."
This doesn't make sense. 77Mike77 ( talk) 18:42, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
Would it be appropriate to add information regarding the replacement program for some of the 3rd gen Apple TVs that were having wifi issues? OrangeJacketGuy ( talk) 20:43, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Apparently the Apple TV software update for 6.0 has been pulled for OTA, and allegedly the reason for this is that it's bricked a good quantity of Apple TVs. Where could I possibly source this? RIght now it's just a bunch of 2nd-hand info and shouldn't be included -- yet. OrangeJacketGuy ( talk) 17:57, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
The list of features includes a disorganized and jumbled list of sources that could be better organized in a table. Also listing whether a cableTV subscription is required or if a subscription to the channel itself is required for viewing. That would help a lot of cord-cutters and others looking for info on how much it will cost to supplement viewing habits. Chicknfood ( talk) 01:45, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
I have created a new category for tvOS (Apple TV) software. If you encounter any articles that have Apple TV apps, please tag them with Category:TvOS software.
Thanks, Daylen ( talk) 02:34, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
In response to this edit the only applicable section I could find was Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trademarks which states to avoid stylization "unless a significant majority of reliable sources that are independent of the subject consistently include the special character when discussing the subject", and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Proper names: "Exceptions are made when the lowercase variant has received regular and established use in reliable third party sources". Apple refers to the OS exclusively as lower-case "tvOS", similar to iOS, and virtually every reference in news media is as "tvOS", never "TvOS". "TvOS" itself is an awkward halfway capitalization as TV is an initialism, if stylized capitalization was truly being ignored it would be "TVOS".-- Shivertimbers433 ( talk) 06:33, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
as long as this is a style already in widespread use". Likewise this isn't exactly CamelCaseo so those exceptions don't apply. The "
trademarks that begin with a lowercase letter" section has rules for dealing with all lowercase, and a single lower case letter ( the iPod/eBay ) exception. The closest rule that I could find would be to use all caps per "
Using all caps is preferred if the letters are pronounced individually", which mean that choices probably should be between "tvOS" and "TVOS". PaleAqua ( talk) 02:36, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
if it is done universally by sourcesfor the all lowercase case. PaleAqua ( talk) 09:03, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Done - TVOS, done as per guideline recommendation, with the usual lead to show stylisation per other Apple pages. Thanks.
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What is meant by "obsolete" in the technical specifications section, and what is the source for attaching that designation? Earlier versions still function to watch TV shows, listen to music, etc., don't they? In what sense are they obsolete? - Pete Forsyth ( talk) 21:51, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
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You can find the model number of your Apple TV by navigating inside your Apple TV to Settings, then General, and then About, and doing a web search for the model number shown there. For example, if you have model MC572LL/A, then you have a second generation Apple TV. It's important to determine the generation of your device before starting any modification process. Not all modifications work on all generations. Presently there is no way to jailbreak a third generation Apple TV. During the days of the release of the first generation of Apple TV, various non-commercial and commercial hacks became available. These allowed users to remotely access the device, add support for other codecs, install a full-blown copy of Mac OS X Leopard and Mac OS X Tiger, access the hard drive via USB, use the device to browse the web, use non-Apple remote controls, and download metadata from the IMDb. [1] [2] In mid-2008, Fire Core released the aTV Flash software, which gives the Apple TV support for other media formats, a web browser, external USB hard drive support, and more. [3] A free and open-source alternative, atvusb-creator, does much the same using a simple graphical interface on both Mac and Windows. [Please note that the Fire Core software support appears to be available and the majority of user hackable features including, the use of XBMC, is outdated and will not update properly]. As of June 2011, Apple does not prevent users from modifying their Apple TVs, but does warn that applying hacks may void the product's warranty. [4] Installing updates for the Apple TV system software typically removes software hacks, but major Apple TV hacks are updated regularly. [5] Most plugins for Front Row are minor and have not been updated to work with Apple TV running Apple TV Software 2.x. AwkwardTV reports 10 plugins out of 32 have been certified compatible with the "Take Two" update. [6] Popular modifications include replacing/complementing Apple TV's Front Row interface with alternative media center software, including Plex, XBMC Media Center, and Boxee. [1] [7] Though Boxee installs a Netflix Watch Instantly plugin, the Apple TV does not have enough processing power to run the Silverlight framework that the Netflix plugin depends on. [8] [9] Users have also upgraded the first generation's internal hard drive. [10] A hardware hack allows the first generation of Apple TV to output color through composite video. [11] True 1080p playback and video output can be enabled on the first generation Apple TV by using the update software feature in the General menu, or by the more costly method of installing a Broadcom CrystalHD PCI-e card [12] and version 10.0 (Dharma) and later of XBMC running on Linux instead of the native Mac OS X 10.4.x based operating system. This has been available since June 2010 and was originally created by Sam Nazarko. In March 2011, Nazarko released a GUI installer for both Linux and Windows platforms allowing quick installation of his minimal distribution. citation needed The distribution offers PVR support and AirPlay and still receives updates to this day. [13] The AirPlay video and photo streaming feature was previously available on the first generation by installing the Remote HD plugin, Plex or XBMC Media Center. [14] References
The Apple TV (2nd generation) is the first to have an operating system based on a version of iOS. Developers have applied iOS jailbreaking so that software unapproved by Apple that may void the warranty may be installed on this model of Apple TV. This can be accomplished by downloading the Apple TV's firmware from Apple's servers, then using a custom firmware application like Seas0nPass [1] or PwnageTool [2] to create a custom firmware. Users then connect their Apple TV to iTunes, place the Apple TV in DFU mode, and restore the custom firmware to the Apple TV. This custom firmware provides SSH support to the device where users may use APT to install software to the device, or a GUI version similar to Cydia called NitoTV which includes access to software drivers to enable the built-in Bluetooth functions. There is a limited amount of Apple TV compatible software. On January 20, 2011, the XBMC team released the first official version of XBMC Media Center for this second generation device. A limited thin client release of Plex Media Center has also been released. when? 2nd generation Apple TV's are significantly more expensive in second-hand markets than the 3rd, due to this jailbreaking ability. [3] [4] [5] [6] In February 2011, Greenpois0n RC6 brought full untethered jailbreak support for second generation on iOS 4.2.1 with a simpler jailbreak method than Seas0nPass or PwnageTool. [7] References
The Apple TV (3rd generation) was released in March 2012. Four years since the device's release, the hacker community has failed to jailbreak the third generation device. According to FireCore LLC, there is a group of individuals attempting to discover a method to jailbreak the device. However, many leaders in the Apple TV hacker community have admitted defeat. The bootrom of Apple TV has been hardened to defend against the exploit used to jailbreak the second generation of Apple TV. A bootrom-level exploit is needed for a jailbreak because Apple TV disables its Micro-USB port until the device is fully booted. Plexconnect (giving Plex functionality) is available without a jailbreak for 2nd and 3rd generation. [1] [2] References
On March 23, 2016, The Pangu Team released a jailbreak tool for the 4th generation Apple TV running tvOS 9.0-9.0.1 that provides SSH access so that developers can port their jailbreak apps from iOS to tvOS. It doesn't provide a graphical interface such as Cydia and is unlikely to be used by the end user. In addition, the jailbreak requires a Mac with Xcode installed in order to install the jailbreak. [1] References
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Reviewer: GoAnimateFan199Pro ( talk · contribs) 08:32, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Good article review for Apple TV - see
WP:WIAGA for criteria
Right, here we go:
Despite the article being promoted to good article status, there are still a ton of unreferenced claims in the article and the accessibility section is completely unreferenced. I suggest demoting this from good article status until the problems are fixed. 344917661X ( talk) 20:03, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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This section does not discuss development of the Apple TV product. It lists an incomplete smattering of historical products and false starts which happen to have some association with TV. None are even antecedent to the product being discussed.
The fourth paragraph is reports of debunked rumours. These might as well be categorised as fan fiction, though they were widely reported at the time. This historical tidbit might still have some place in the article, but certainly not under the heading of "Development."
At minimum, the section should be renamed to better reflect its content. However in my opinion none of it is relevant to the article and deletion should be considered. Simon Wright ( talk) 04:54, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Apple did not discontinue the 64Gb version of Apple TV 5th Generation (4K). The current article states Following the announcement of the new models, the 64 GB version of the 4th generation Apple TV was discontinued.[61].. The [61] reference points to https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/09/apple-tv-4k-brings-home-the-magic-of-cinema-with-4k-and-hdr/ where it states Apple TV 4K starts at $179 (US) for 32GB or $199 (US) for 64GB.
Should the sentence "It also has the ability to pair with an iPhone's ambient light sensor to optimize its color output" be here? This is more of a function of tvOS than the Apple TV. When updated updated to the tvOS 14.5 beta, the 5th generation (4K, 2017) model supports this as well. I have heard, but can't confirm, that this feature also works with 4th generation (HD).
SANSd20 ( talk) 17:56, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
At 6 generations, I am wondering why we have not considered splitting this article. It's pretty large at this point and I feel like it would be less cluttered if each generation had their own page. The iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch get this treatment, so why not the Apple TV? The Apple TV has not been updated very consistently, but there will be a 7th generation pretty certainly given 8K coming. Subscribe to me ( talk) 17:54, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Propose I think the article should be divided into pages for each generation of Apple TV and that we keep the original page, with just a brief summary of it. Currently the page is way too long, as seen in the infobox and Subheadings. This makes the article very confusing to read TapticInfo ( talk) 20:01, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
The introduction to the article states that the Apple TV gives users access to, among other things, "TV Everywhere-based cables and broadcastings, and sports league journalisms." Is this (cables, broadcastings, journalisms) typical industry jargon, or am I correct in thinking that this is a case of poor (possibly nonexistent) word choice? Illini407 talk 19:48, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
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The following text appeared in the "Background" section but refers to events well after the 2006 release of the first-ten Apple TV. I'm moving it here in case anyone wants to do anything with it. PRRfan ( talk) 01:35, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Starting in 2009, Gene Munster, an investment banking analyst at Piper Sandler Companies, speculated that Apple would announce an HD television set to compete with TVs made by Sony, LG, Samsung, and others. [1] According to Steve Jobs's 2011 biography, Jobs had found a breakthrough that would have made an Apple television commercially viable. [2] [3] However, the project was cancelled in 2014 and was never released. [4]
At a March 2019 Apple special event, Apple announced the Apple TV+ streaming service, as well as Apple TV app that integrate movies from other Video on demand services. This was interpreted by media outlets as a departure from Apple's earlier strategy of looking for a killer application that would boost their set top box's market share. [5] [6] PRRfan ( talk) 01:35, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
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