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I think that this and the Antemurale Christianitatis article discuss the same issue. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 02:01, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
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How can it be myth if Pope did call Croatia antemurale Christianitatis. And Serbs actually being Vlachs. There is historical document /info/en/?search=Statuta_Valachorum. And on /info/en/?search=Morlachs it says they expressed Croat or Serb indentity based on religion in 19th century.
Is this article some form of ideological historical negationism!? Someone already mentioned that it was used by Pope Leo X and is generally seen as a line of battle against the invading Ottoman empire in a long line of established scholarly writing for centuries. The conflicts of Jajce (1521, 1525), Kllis (1524), Mohacs (1526), and Vienna (1529) for example marked the line where the frontwall of Christendom (i.e Antemurale Christianitatis) existed against and was succesful in repelling Suleiman II onslaught on the European continent. So should Drang nach Osten also have a separate article called "Drang nach Osten myth"....Or maybe the Schlieffen plan by Alfred von Schlieffen could also be a myth or challenged as hoax created by "evil Jews" wanting to tarnish the reputation of the late 19th freedom loving Germans? Merge this article with Antemurale Christianitatis, but make it a small subsection! MynameisadamB ( talk) 12:17, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
This article reads more like propaganda than a fair and balanced article. The usage of the word "myth" is derogatory and demeaning.
The "bulwarks" were primarily the result of defensive battles against foreign conquerors. At this time, colonialism is seen as a bad thing and thus defensive bulwarks should be seen as a good thing.
The only thing that makes sense is that the primary "author" is pushing globalist propaganda that seeks to destroy the validity of protecting the individualism and sovereignty of nation states. 198.251.52.109 ( talk) 20:11, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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I think that this and the Antemurale Christianitatis article discuss the same issue. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 02:01, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
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How can it be myth if Pope did call Croatia antemurale Christianitatis. And Serbs actually being Vlachs. There is historical document /info/en/?search=Statuta_Valachorum. And on /info/en/?search=Morlachs it says they expressed Croat or Serb indentity based on religion in 19th century.
Is this article some form of ideological historical negationism!? Someone already mentioned that it was used by Pope Leo X and is generally seen as a line of battle against the invading Ottoman empire in a long line of established scholarly writing for centuries. The conflicts of Jajce (1521, 1525), Kllis (1524), Mohacs (1526), and Vienna (1529) for example marked the line where the frontwall of Christendom (i.e Antemurale Christianitatis) existed against and was succesful in repelling Suleiman II onslaught on the European continent. So should Drang nach Osten also have a separate article called "Drang nach Osten myth"....Or maybe the Schlieffen plan by Alfred von Schlieffen could also be a myth or challenged as hoax created by "evil Jews" wanting to tarnish the reputation of the late 19th freedom loving Germans? Merge this article with Antemurale Christianitatis, but make it a small subsection! MynameisadamB ( talk) 12:17, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
This article reads more like propaganda than a fair and balanced article. The usage of the word "myth" is derogatory and demeaning.
The "bulwarks" were primarily the result of defensive battles against foreign conquerors. At this time, colonialism is seen as a bad thing and thus defensive bulwarks should be seen as a good thing.
The only thing that makes sense is that the primary "author" is pushing globalist propaganda that seeks to destroy the validity of protecting the individualism and sovereignty of nation states. 198.251.52.109 ( talk) 20:11, 25 November 2023 (UTC)