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Moved article to Western European colonialism and colonization, which is a more descriptive title of the article's content and scope. Crcarey ( talk) 19:52, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi Crcarey, you did quite the overhaul of this page. It's impressive. Here are some suggestions and critical comments for improvement.
Chrisblattman ( talk) 01:29, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
"Impact and evaluation of" seems unencyclopedic and pointless. Thoughts? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:22, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh please, don't insult people's intelligence! Britain and East India Company benign contribution was a famine that lead to 30 million deaths!
And the US invasion of Iraq completely destroyed the economy of that country. Kishorekumar 62 ( talk) 05:47, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
No mention of Christianity, that was one of the greatest legacies of colonialism.-- Inayity ( talk) 04:29, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Only talking about the Western European colonial powers is arbitrary, and ignores the very similar colonial empires of Japan and the USA. The article doesn't benefit from such a narrow focus, and I can't really see there being much downside to including the aforementioned countries. While I see that there are enormous differences between Western European colonialism and say, Russian or Turkish imperialism, the geographic specificness really doesn't do many favours. 130.56.79.28 ( talk) 05:03, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Firstly, 'evaluation of' implies a non-neutral point of view, and is manifestly inappropriate for an encyclopaædia. The only articles that should appear on Wikipedia with a title that contains 'evaluation of' are articles that describe the process of evaluating something, such as Evaluation of machine translation, and evaluations of issues are, by their nature, biased.
The "impact of" was retained in the title because this article focuses only on the impacts of colonialism & colonisation, and does not attempt to recount/describe events that occurred, etc.
Finally, "colonization" was changed to "colonisation" in keeping with the 'consistency within articles' principles of Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of English as the article's body is written in British English, not American English.
This is a rather conservative move; the more radical proposals on this page should be debated before any move attempted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickc8 ( talk • contribs) 09:19, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
I added a section on the different varieties of colonialism in order to discuss their different impacts. I will be adding a section on Exploitation Colonialism to this same heading next. Crcarey ( talk) 22:27, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Why both colonialism and colonization? There is no colonialism and colonization article. Yes, Colonization=/= Colonialism, but in the European context, we talk of colonialism (see the disambig note on that page) so shouldn't this be moved to a simpler title at Western European colonialism? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:19, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
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I will try to clear this off GA queue quickly. This is a student's project. First, is the nominator and author of the 2016 expansion, student editor User:Crcarey still with us? Please respond. There are issues to be fixed, but for now, quickly: there are outstanding citation needed tags. Citations need to be provided, or this will be a quick fail. Second quick fail warning: empty " Postcolonialism and postcolonial literature" section. It needs, well, to be written. Third note: there are book citations, but they are missing page numbers. Those need to be added. More detailed comments will be offered if I see that we have an active editor interested in resolving those issues. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:24, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
This seems to be an unusual way of titling an article, and nor does it seem particularly necessary. Thoughts? Moreover, the difference between "colonialism" and "colonization" can be made in the article, can't it? Do these need to both be in the headline? Therefore I suggest the article be renamed to "Western European Colonialism." Will wait a few days for objectors and if there are none make the move. Cleopatran Apocalypse ( talk) 06:36, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Why not write a replacement text in WP:Sandbox first? I disagree with Indy beetle that there is nothing of value in the current article - the sections on (i) direct vs indirect rule, (ii) Land, property rights, and labour and (iii) Reorganization of borders and (iv) settler colonialism are not optimally structured or phrased but do address serious issues of historiographical debate. I fear if every page required "a clear conceptual foundation", we would have very few articles left.— Brigade Piron ( talk) 10:14, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Interjection: While I support a Historiography of colonialism article, this is not that article, save for a few bits as mentioned above. However, there is no cause for deletion here, since this is an abundantly discussed topic of research and writing and the page largely serves to outline that scholarship. Is this topic itself notable? Clearly. See for example these works designed to review that literature in different fields and different timeframes. (Note that the Oxford Bibliographies each have scores of entries, but most are visible only behind a paywall.)
I recommend shortening the title to Analysis of European colonialism, and general edits to improve the article.-- Carwil ( talk) 19:05, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
As another interjection, while I agree wholeheartedly that the current title and article are both a bit of a mess, it is completely nonsensical that this article exists but European colonialism redirects to History of colonialism, which is only mentioned in passing in a section link here. The solution might be to turn European colonialism into a decent dab pointing at all the different ways of considering it or it might be helpful as this article is fixed to turn it into something that would deserve to receive that redirect itself. — LlywelynII 19:26, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
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Moved article to Western European colonialism and colonization, which is a more descriptive title of the article's content and scope. Crcarey ( talk) 19:52, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi Crcarey, you did quite the overhaul of this page. It's impressive. Here are some suggestions and critical comments for improvement.
Chrisblattman ( talk) 01:29, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
"Impact and evaluation of" seems unencyclopedic and pointless. Thoughts? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:22, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh please, don't insult people's intelligence! Britain and East India Company benign contribution was a famine that lead to 30 million deaths!
And the US invasion of Iraq completely destroyed the economy of that country. Kishorekumar 62 ( talk) 05:47, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
No mention of Christianity, that was one of the greatest legacies of colonialism.-- Inayity ( talk) 04:29, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Only talking about the Western European colonial powers is arbitrary, and ignores the very similar colonial empires of Japan and the USA. The article doesn't benefit from such a narrow focus, and I can't really see there being much downside to including the aforementioned countries. While I see that there are enormous differences between Western European colonialism and say, Russian or Turkish imperialism, the geographic specificness really doesn't do many favours. 130.56.79.28 ( talk) 05:03, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Firstly, 'evaluation of' implies a non-neutral point of view, and is manifestly inappropriate for an encyclopaædia. The only articles that should appear on Wikipedia with a title that contains 'evaluation of' are articles that describe the process of evaluating something, such as Evaluation of machine translation, and evaluations of issues are, by their nature, biased.
The "impact of" was retained in the title because this article focuses only on the impacts of colonialism & colonisation, and does not attempt to recount/describe events that occurred, etc.
Finally, "colonization" was changed to "colonisation" in keeping with the 'consistency within articles' principles of Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of English as the article's body is written in British English, not American English.
This is a rather conservative move; the more radical proposals on this page should be debated before any move attempted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickc8 ( talk • contribs) 09:19, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
I added a section on the different varieties of colonialism in order to discuss their different impacts. I will be adding a section on Exploitation Colonialism to this same heading next. Crcarey ( talk) 22:27, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Why both colonialism and colonization? There is no colonialism and colonization article. Yes, Colonization=/= Colonialism, but in the European context, we talk of colonialism (see the disambig note on that page) so shouldn't this be moved to a simpler title at Western European colonialism? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:19, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
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I will try to clear this off GA queue quickly. This is a student's project. First, is the nominator and author of the 2016 expansion, student editor User:Crcarey still with us? Please respond. There are issues to be fixed, but for now, quickly: there are outstanding citation needed tags. Citations need to be provided, or this will be a quick fail. Second quick fail warning: empty " Postcolonialism and postcolonial literature" section. It needs, well, to be written. Third note: there are book citations, but they are missing page numbers. Those need to be added. More detailed comments will be offered if I see that we have an active editor interested in resolving those issues. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:24, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
This seems to be an unusual way of titling an article, and nor does it seem particularly necessary. Thoughts? Moreover, the difference between "colonialism" and "colonization" can be made in the article, can't it? Do these need to both be in the headline? Therefore I suggest the article be renamed to "Western European Colonialism." Will wait a few days for objectors and if there are none make the move. Cleopatran Apocalypse ( talk) 06:36, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Why not write a replacement text in WP:Sandbox first? I disagree with Indy beetle that there is nothing of value in the current article - the sections on (i) direct vs indirect rule, (ii) Land, property rights, and labour and (iii) Reorganization of borders and (iv) settler colonialism are not optimally structured or phrased but do address serious issues of historiographical debate. I fear if every page required "a clear conceptual foundation", we would have very few articles left.— Brigade Piron ( talk) 10:14, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Interjection: While I support a Historiography of colonialism article, this is not that article, save for a few bits as mentioned above. However, there is no cause for deletion here, since this is an abundantly discussed topic of research and writing and the page largely serves to outline that scholarship. Is this topic itself notable? Clearly. See for example these works designed to review that literature in different fields and different timeframes. (Note that the Oxford Bibliographies each have scores of entries, but most are visible only behind a paywall.)
I recommend shortening the title to Analysis of European colonialism, and general edits to improve the article.-- Carwil ( talk) 19:05, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
As another interjection, while I agree wholeheartedly that the current title and article are both a bit of a mess, it is completely nonsensical that this article exists but European colonialism redirects to History of colonialism, which is only mentioned in passing in a section link here. The solution might be to turn European colonialism into a decent dab pointing at all the different ways of considering it or it might be helpful as this article is fixed to turn it into something that would deserve to receive that redirect itself. — LlywelynII 19:26, 9 April 2022 (UTC)