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Today I added to the intro the sentence:
...trying to add context since the article Halakha says:
@ Debresser: you reverted this addition with the edit summary "Not a good idea." I'm curious about the reason? I usually like to make it clear in the intro of articles if they are part of something larger; not sure if you're objecting to the claim or to where I put it or how I phrased it or something else? -- Beland ( talk) 00:22, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Continuing discussion from User talk:SheriffIsInTown#613:
@ Sir Joseph: Everything on Wikipedia needs sourcing to reliable sources so keeping this in mind, last half of the section Dissent and difficulties and complete Works enumerating the commandments section is currently source-less and should be removed. Your logic of list of books not needing sources is a baloney and not enshrined in any policy. Please add the sources instead of just keep denying a simple policy matter. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 17:29, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
There is no single definitive list that explicates the 613 commandments. Lists differ, for example, in how they interpret passages in the Torah that may be read as dealing with several cases under a single law or several separate laws. Other "commandments" in the Torah are restricted as one-time acts, and would not be considered as "mitzvot" binding on other persons.- Who says all of this? Where is the source? (There is none because this is all written by a layman Wikipedia editor like me and you.) Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:52, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
All of this removed content needs sources, now you know that, please do not restore without adding sources. I do not want this content on Wikipedia unless you add supporting sources. WP:BURDEN is on you to add sources, not on me! Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 22:07, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
I have restored it for now and tagged it to give you an opportunity to source it but know that I will not keep it tagged forever as I am seeking its removal unless editors comply with WP:BURDEN and source it! Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 22:19, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
If everything had to be sourced, there would be a lot less information on Wikipedia. And who says the source is good? Readers should be warned to take unsourced information with a pinch of salt. Riskit 4 a biskit ( talk) 22:50, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Does the proper spelling of תרי״ג מצוות, taryag mitzvot really contain a quotation mark? Hairy Dude ( talk) 15:43, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Can the 2 tables be modified? Have to go back to the editor who posted the lists?
Can the lists be displayed in a table with columns and search/sort/filter capability? Riskit 4 a biskit ( talk) 20:25, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
At The mitzvah to write a Torah scroll, the article states The mitzvah to write a Torah scroll (Hebrew: מצוות כתיבת ספר תורה) is the last mitzvah of the 613 Jewish commandments., while this article lists this mitzvah as second to last, with Not to drink wine poured in service to idols as the last, or Not to retain her for servitude after having sexual relations with her in the list labeled Typical Order. 57.135.233.22 ( talk) 07:54, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
@ Led8000: You quoted an English Bible translation, and I don't think that's a good source for a Jewish tradition. I think a change here needs a better source, a Jewish one. Rsk6400 ( talk) 19:00, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
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Today I added to the intro the sentence:
...trying to add context since the article Halakha says:
@ Debresser: you reverted this addition with the edit summary "Not a good idea." I'm curious about the reason? I usually like to make it clear in the intro of articles if they are part of something larger; not sure if you're objecting to the claim or to where I put it or how I phrased it or something else? -- Beland ( talk) 00:22, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Continuing discussion from User talk:SheriffIsInTown#613:
@ Sir Joseph: Everything on Wikipedia needs sourcing to reliable sources so keeping this in mind, last half of the section Dissent and difficulties and complete Works enumerating the commandments section is currently source-less and should be removed. Your logic of list of books not needing sources is a baloney and not enshrined in any policy. Please add the sources instead of just keep denying a simple policy matter. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 17:29, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
There is no single definitive list that explicates the 613 commandments. Lists differ, for example, in how they interpret passages in the Torah that may be read as dealing with several cases under a single law or several separate laws. Other "commandments" in the Torah are restricted as one-time acts, and would not be considered as "mitzvot" binding on other persons.- Who says all of this? Where is the source? (There is none because this is all written by a layman Wikipedia editor like me and you.) Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:52, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
All of this removed content needs sources, now you know that, please do not restore without adding sources. I do not want this content on Wikipedia unless you add supporting sources. WP:BURDEN is on you to add sources, not on me! Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 22:07, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
I have restored it for now and tagged it to give you an opportunity to source it but know that I will not keep it tagged forever as I am seeking its removal unless editors comply with WP:BURDEN and source it! Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 22:19, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
If everything had to be sourced, there would be a lot less information on Wikipedia. And who says the source is good? Readers should be warned to take unsourced information with a pinch of salt. Riskit 4 a biskit ( talk) 22:50, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Does the proper spelling of תרי״ג מצוות, taryag mitzvot really contain a quotation mark? Hairy Dude ( talk) 15:43, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Can the 2 tables be modified? Have to go back to the editor who posted the lists?
Can the lists be displayed in a table with columns and search/sort/filter capability? Riskit 4 a biskit ( talk) 20:25, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
At The mitzvah to write a Torah scroll, the article states The mitzvah to write a Torah scroll (Hebrew: מצוות כתיבת ספר תורה) is the last mitzvah of the 613 Jewish commandments., while this article lists this mitzvah as second to last, with Not to drink wine poured in service to idols as the last, or Not to retain her for servitude after having sexual relations with her in the list labeled Typical Order. 57.135.233.22 ( talk) 07:54, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
@ Led8000: You quoted an English Bible translation, and I don't think that's a good source for a Jewish tradition. I think a change here needs a better source, a Jewish one. Rsk6400 ( talk) 19:00, 23 February 2024 (UTC)