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Can someone please add sales totals for the Wii version? It currently only has PS2 sales and it would be interesting to compare. Many thanks.
When it comes to the comparison of the wii sales and ps2 sales it mentions from march 2007 okamis total sales on ps2 where 270k, and it says from july 2008 okami wii sales were 280k. Now it says they both were on par in the same time frame but judging the dates these sales were measured and the release date of the games that's clearly not true and the article mentioned doesnt state aything on this time frame so who ever put it in has done so without any reference. Is it ok if I remove it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.170.237.182 ( talk) 19:00, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm not so sure it would be good to state an assumption about Amaterasu's gender on the wiki page. Even if it's based on artwork for "Golden Fury", artwork isn't quite the best source for information as nothing is directly stated. In the game, the wolf lifts its leg to perform "Golden Fury". In real life, only the alpha male does this in a wolf pack (and females and subordinate males squat). Amaterasu is referred to as a mother (as the embodiment of the reincarnation) and many times as a he. With the vagueness of gender reference in Japanese language, the gender might not be specified at all. Or it could be the same, alternating between male and female references. Gods have been just as capable as Goddesses of being "mothers" and "sources of life" in mythology.
I'm not saying I know for a fact Oukami Amaterasu is female/male/both/neither/indeterminate or anything, but I think that the quip about it being a female shouldn't be there as a "safe to assume" fact. I'm hesitant to remove it myself, because of my lack of evidence. At the same time, no definite sources on the information (other than concept artwork) have been cited yet. If someone puts up a definite citation, I'll be content. :) Accelagirl 16:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Note the English manual specifically says "Though deliberately written to be a genderless character in the game...", pg 34. Masem 02:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
There is a line in the game that says "Ammy is sensitive about her flaws.". Her flaws, that is. I just now as of this writing saw it after speaking to Rao after escaping from the water dragon. It probably doesn't mean anything, but I thought it would be interesting to know. PiccoloNamek 03:31, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Also, Yatsu (I think it was Yatsu anyway) says that he sees Ammy's true form as "a fair maiden". (I may not have th exact words, but that's the gist of it anyway.) -- Just an anonymouse
Well, I DO know Shiranui's a boy. However, Amaterasu, as a goddess, is female. She's both, at this point, with her true form being female(as said above), her incarnation is male.
Just to point something out: When you first go to see Ishaku (at least I think that's how you spell it) in the Poncle village he calls you Ammy. So technically Shiranui was the name given to Amaterasu by the villagers. They could have assumed that Amaterasu/Shiranui was male. ~Rainpaw
Ammy is OFFICIALLY genderless.
Can somebody work this into the article? Ammy is officially genderless, according to a 1up interview with Capcom localization producer David Crislip @ [1]. The female thing only arose due to localization issues.
1UP: What other sort of things went on behind the scenes in localizing Okami?
DC: Here's a few tidbits. Issun the character has a specific nickname for Amaterasu in the Japanese version where he calls her -- or I should say "him." I shouldn't say her. Actually that's one thing I should mention R&D is very adamant about making Amaterasu genderless, which made localization very hard. Because we use pronouns a lot: he, she.
1UP: And Amaterasu is supposed to be a goddess.
DC: Yeah, and in traditional lore, the Amaterasu of those stories is definitely a sun goddess. But I guess the point Kamiya was trying to make is that this character is called Amaterasu, but it's not necessarily the Amaterasu. Because if you go by proper legend, Susano is Amaterasu's brother, and Tsukiyomi, which is actually a sword in the game, is one of their siblings.
1UP: So it's an embodiment, and genderless Amaterasu...
DC: Right, they're taking the names and general themes, but it's not necessarily the Amaterasu, it's a character named Amaterasu. For the European versions, I think they'll have to go ahead and make it a female because it'll be too hard to write around that. But for English, that was really difficult because we couldn't use he or she, and we didn't want to use "Amaterasu" every time we mentioned the character's name.
1UP: And you didn't want to use "it."
DC: Exactly. So we used "the wolf," "the god," things like that. There were ways around it, but it wasn't easy. But speaking of that, it leads me to what I was saying about Issun. In the Japanese version, Issun refers to Amaterasu as Ammako, and we were struggling with what to do with that in English. Adding 'ko" to the end of something doesn't make sense to an English speaker. But Kamiya actually thought of "Ammy" himself so people wouldn't mispronounce it as "Amy." And feeling-wise, it's very, very close to the way it would sound to a Japanese speaker.
"Nippon" is the Japanese word for Japan. As such, its redendent saying its set in Nippon during the Japanese classical period for it is redundency. 72.81.9.212 16:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Something just doesn't seem right about that portion of the entry. If it were just a passing comment in one of the other sections that would be fine, but an entirely new section seems a little extreme. Comments like: "Smashable pots" in relation to the Zelda series is rediculous. Thats like comparing almost every FPS to Goldeneye because they both have exploding barrels. Almost sounds like fanboyism. --MajorCOW 22:20, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I think it's fair to mention that Okami and Zelda have a number of similar elements, such that most reviews can be summarized as "Zelda for PS2". But there doesn't need to be a breakdown exactly of every commonality - it's just that "Zelda for PS2" alone should adequetely get across the type of game it is rather well. If such a list becomes necessary, that probably should fall under the Reviews or Critiques section, but outside of Gameplay --Masem 8:30, 12 October 2006
The game sold horribly in japan(at least initially), anyone have anymore detailed information about that? Hitmaker 00:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
what is the story line ? if you think about it , it is actullay about those gods who are trying to bring back the color of the world.
But, until now there are no further info about all this , what we know is so littele , wich makes us think , maybe the game does not offer to much ? ..........
Is the story line supposed to be written in present or in past tense? Please choose one or the other.
We can find a little bit about the story line reading something about the Japan Mythology. Betum ( talk) 18:47, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Whoever is changing the date for the U.S to September 20, please stop. Both GameInformer and Gamestop say it is coming out the 5th, several American magazines have already reviewed it, they ussually dont get games that far in advance,thank you.
Err, IGN isn't always right. Alot of DS games have the release date as December 31 in Japan, when most of those games are already out in Japan. I've found that GameInformer and Gamestop ussualy get their dates correct. -- DaxterKing
Ok, guess I was wrong. The latest issue of GI said the 5th and Gamestop just changed the date.Sorry-- DaxterKing
Isn't Amaterasu a reincarnation of Shiranui, not the god/dess him/herself?
It states in the game that OKami is the reborn Shiranui, but the godess gave the last of her strength to him =/
At the end of the game, it's revealed that Amaterasu, on Waka's advice, came to earth in the form of a white wolf to hunt the Orochi and wait for Nagi to be born. The villagers assumed that the albino wolf prowling their village was another monster, assumed it was male, and named it Shiranui. After Amaterasu/Shiranui died fighting Orochi, she was revived a century later by Sakuya in a weakened form. 75.157.120.15 ( talk) 08:04, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
this is usually here but its not anymore its coming out the 19th so it should be there until its out
"For those who preordered the game, the game came with a limited edition art board/buddha."
The Buddha Board/ Art Board was a preorder special only from EB Games and Gamestop. If the game was preodered else where, it never came with Art board / Buddha Board. I would change this myself but I lack resources to prove this.
I don't find the recent change of the Trivia section necessary. There are numerous parodies, cameos, and tie ins to numerous games. Many of which are extremely precise and tying them all under a single statement seems to go against the point of that entire section. Am I the only one that feels this way? VerasGunn 21:01, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
The game has quite a large number of characters, and it could make this article look cluttered. 24.97.33.132 15:50, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
It strikes me as odd that above the content box it is noted that a demo of the game was featured in two copies of Official PlayStation Magazine. This has nothing to do with the game itself. I will delete it. If anyone disagrees, say so.-- Soetermans 20:52, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
I added two tables for the vary brush techniques (the 13 Celestial ones, and the others that you use otherwise). I know there's more information that can be added which I don't have access to presently; for the 13 techniques, I think the name of the god that gave them to Ammy, the name of the technique, the kanji used (which is listed in the manual), and maybe an example picture for each. Similar ideas for the second table, though as these aren't part of the Celestial Techiques, they won't have the same stuff (like the god granting it to Ammy). Masem 16:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, the tables say that making constellations isn't a brush stroke technique. But it is. It is the Sunrise technique. The Sunrise technique allows you to make stars (the sun is a star) and you have it at the beginning of the game. -- Anon, 22 October 2006
Right argument, wrong technique. The Sunrise technique is only used to draw the Sun, not just any old star. When you fill in a constellation, you are using Rejuvenation, the same technique you use to repair a bridge or complete a watermill. 210.216.45.65 16:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC) Anonymous
Should I have added metacritic's entry for Okami in the External links? I'm unfamiliar with the policy of wiki in regards to such sites. -- Havermayer 20:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
As noted by Stratadrake,the question is, is all the game references (even if pulled out of trivia and it's own section like I did) listcruft or not. Now, I note a lot of gaming wiki article have references of a game in other games but not references of a game in the present one, or at least not as common, which is the reverse of what we've got here so far. I think it's fair to reduce that list down to say something like "Okami has references to many other Capcom titles, including (list)", add a wiki comment that no addition references should be spelled out in Okami, but instead added to the appropriate game (so, like all the Viewtiful Joe refs should be in that article). Masem 05:43, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
*Kaguya has a dome on her head, which might be a reference to Arieta from [[Cyberbots]].
I don't see any reason for the move. "Okami" outside of the video game sense seems to be a word to describe wolves, but not a specific kind of wolf or the like, so it otherwise lakes the specificity to be it's own topic. Mind you, if there's a specific reason to have a different "Okami" article, then the move makes sense, but I don't see that yet. Masem 19:42, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
I made a tiny addition to Inaba bullet point mentioning the rabbit Inaba can be seen at the same time as the creators name during the credits. It's just one sentence i doubted it would matter at all i just wanted to bring it to attention in case someone felt it didn't deserve a place in the paragraph.
IGN is not a good source, It probably won`t come out feb 02 in pal regions. We need more info. user:EEVEE103
Is the Brush techniques (in the gameplay section) really needed? Wikipedia isn't a game guide, it's an encyclopedia. I can understand small notes about it, but not a full table. RobJ1981 06:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
As I saw no objections, I've taken out the Brush Technique table, but put the Brush Gods in as a minor character section. The only remaining step is if we should still take the characters to a separate page. -- Masem 17:30, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Is it really required to list so many review scores? Many other articles usually mention the most well known of sources. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stabby Joe ( talk • contribs) 19:20, 14 January 2007 (UTC).
Isn't it kind of weird how Okami won game of the year on IGN when it didn't even win best PS2 game of the year? RammaYB 21:37, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I've seen several gaming magazines saying that despite all the critical love, Okami didn't make hardly any dents in the sales charts (either for Japan or the US). For Okami to turn out like another Ico, this really needs mention. Got figures? -- Stratadrake 18:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
[3], [4] - Rumors of Okami on Wii or 360 [5] - Inaba hints at poor sales in Japan [6] - Spong.com describes Okami as "17th" [7] - Gamasutra - Okami debuted #6 in Japan -- Stratadrake 04:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Statement from Official Playstation Magazine, January 2007 issue, "JTown" section. I don't have the issue on hand, but I remember it saying something like:
Okami was a failure in Japan, where it didn't even make a dent in the sales charts. Only after extreme discounting did it pass 66,000 copies; in a country with tens of millions of PS2's, anything less than 100,000 is considered a failure.
-- Stratadrake 19:53, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I've got a fever, and the only cure is MORE SCREENSHOTS! A HUGE part of Okami is the visual style of the game, failing to include a single screenshot in an article about this game is really a hindrance!
Seriously, this article needs MORE SCREENSHOTS!
PyroGamer 15:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I totally agreed the article states the beauty of the graphics but doesn't have any screenshots... a bit odd
"Electronic Gaming Monthly gave it a 9/9.5/9 out of ten"
Needs to be re-worded -- Unsigned comment
Some people, myself included, have great difficulty finding all the stray beads. Maybe it would be beneficial to include a section about stray beads. There are 100 stray beads littered across the different areas of the game, but they are NOT easy to find. I'm positive that there could be some people who come and view this article that would greatly appreciate a list of the stray beads and their exact locations. It may be difficult to compile a list working alone, but I believe there are lists out there somewhere, I just can't find one!! Just what I think might help out the article from my point of view. Darres vampire 16:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I added a bunch of links to articles not made about any possible Japanese legends. I am requesting that somebody does some research and at the very least make the articles stubs. If there is no legend associated with that character, one should revert the link to just text. I hope you understand me. -- Eiyuu Kou 16:43, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
The Japanese word for wolf is also Ōkami - 狼. As the player is both a wolf and a god, is there any proof that the game's title refers to "great god" as claimed in the article rather than "wolf"? Or perhaps it is a pun? Dracker 17:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Are the red markings on the Gods worth mentioning that they resemble that of a
Kabuki
Kumadori? In my opinion, it is.
--
BryghtShadow
17:27, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
See Good Article Criteria for further details.
Overall, this is a pretty nice article which is bursting full of references. The plot rehash section is nicely trimmed to explain the significant facts, and not the tiny minor details. Nicely enriched with images, and neutral altogether. Great game and good work. NSR77 T C 18:01, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to try to pass this article as an FA; I don't see anything that fails the immediate guidelines, and I really don't see much else that could be added to "complete" the article further. -- Masem 14:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't see any notable sources with the Wii-port rumor. I highly doubt a game that sold under 300,000 copies on the system with the world's largest install base will be ported to a system with less than 1/10th the number of systems. Call me crazy, but this game contributed to the closing of Clover, Capcom are not financial retards. 70.71.197.16 02:45, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Very recently, there was a change to the article removing a little of the information about the Nintendo Wii's version of Okami. It was done by an IP adress that has done some vandalization in the past, and I don't see why it should have been deleted. I am just going to go ahead and revert this, if it really doesn't belong, just RV it back. It was minor anyway. Check here, to see what I mean; Okami latest history Thanks! Mizu onna sango15 02:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I see no spoiler alert, however the story section seems to summarize the entire game.
User:Hue03 added a collapsible table of the Celestial Brush gods under characters. While I think there's something good about doing this, I don't know for sure if it's really needed; making it collapsible helps, but if we include the C. Brush gods, whats to start us from adding other minor characters? Any other thoughts on this? -- MASEM 18:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Has there been a discussion as to why this article is allowed to break, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)? I don't see it here nor in the archive.
There was some discussion here #Requested_Move but not sure if that's completely related. Also the basis for moving it from Okami in that article's history says Okami has been moved to Ōkami.: see the logo. However I don't think that is reason to break naming convention. Strongsauce ( talk) 17:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
When Stan goes to the video game store in the South Park episode "Guitar Queer-O", the shelves behind the counter are all full of Okami boxes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.71.175.5 ( talk) 06:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
http://kotaku.com/381846/ign-watermark-in-okami-cover-art http://www.joystiq.com/2008/04/20/uh-ohkami-capcom-botches-okami-wii-box-art-inadvertently-adver/
Anyone fancy putting this into the article somewhere? Ixistant ( talk) 19:39, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
I hear that the clovers were removed and the credits were edited. -- 68.161.161.206 ( talk) 04:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have any numbers on the sales of Okami for the Wii in North America? I have been looking and have yet to find anything. I assume is was lukewarm as far as sales go? Ryne11 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 05:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
I was surprised how few characters are mentioned as linked to Japanese mythology. I think an Okami characters page would be a great idea (I know someone mentioned it before, but we still don't have one). There are so many countless references that aren't even mentioned. Some examples: Susano's similarity to Susanoo Kushi in the Susanoo legend Tsukuyomi is the name of Susano's sword in the game, and the moon god in shinto mythology (you have to make the moon shine in the Orochi battle) Sakuya's relevence to Konohana-sakuya-hime (plus, the Konohana shuffle *dancedance*) ok, i know there are a lot more but i'll stop rambling now...please consider expanding this great article though! ~Ash3s 7/11/08 11:09 AM
This Featured Article has a total of three dead external links, which can be found here. Please fix them as soon as possible. Thanks! -- haha169 ( talk) 00:44, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
"...we're getting the game up and running first. The game is enormous. If after we have every thing working correctly, cleanly and as desired so as not to "break" the amazing experience that is Ōkami, we will worry about potential enhancements. As we are NOT at that point in the process yet, we are loathe to even mention any potential changes or enhancements for fear of disappointing the fans/media."
Loathe is an accepted variant of loath(adj.), as per Merriam Webster Dictionary of English Usage found[ here.]
There is no need for [sic]
24.251.133.172 ( talk) 13:01, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
I know that the Wii version, gameplay-wise, is not so unique, and especially not plot-wise - in essence, it's just a port. However, I think if we split the Wii version out, we'll end up with two smaller FAs as opposed to one big FA. I wrote up a dirty example here. Gameplay and Plot sections obviously need trimming and modification, but it has a huge development section and the reception section could easily be expanded. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:43, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
This should be corrected: Under the paragraph is written "Mika Matsūra" which is wrong, given that the name consists of 松 (matsu) and 浦 (ura) witch makes the "u" in the name not stretched like in other words but the two parts separated. Thus it would be correct if the name was actually written as Matsuura.
I just beat the game and I see two errors in the character section. First off it says that in the North American version of the game, Amaterasu doesn't have a specific sex. I have that version and in that game Ammy is still specified as a female as demonstrated when the Gods refer to her as "the mother to us all" and the spirit in the Gale Shrine identifies her true form as a "fair maiden."
Also it says there is no singular antagonist in the game. At the end of the game wasn't it revealed that every monster in the game, including Orochi and Ninetails, was under the control of Yami who was the Ruler of Darkness and thus the game's main villain? -- 24.46.117.40 ( talk) 13:38, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
In my version of the manual, on page 36, it says "Though deliberately written to be a genderless character in the game, Amaterasu is portrayed as a woman in the context of Shinto mythology". Well, this wouldn't be the first time that a manual was wrong about a game; the game does specifically and repeatedly portray Amaterasu as female. Not just in the instances that the original poster said, but if I recall rightly, Issun teases Amaterasu in a way that indicates she's female. All I can tell you is that right from early on in the game, I was very aware that I was playing a female character. How's that for genderless. And frankly, I'd take what the game actually does over what the manual says the game does. It doesn't work both ways. Once a character is identified as one gender, that means they're no longer genderless. I also say we change the "U.S. version" reference to "English version", since the USA isn't the only Western and English-speaking country. clicketyclick 15:45, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Amaterasu appears in the Marvel vs. Capcom 3 game as a Capcom character, using her Celestial Brush techniques and weapons from the game. It would appear that Issun, as in Ōkami, acts as the dialogue proxy and comic relief by taunting the opponents during Ammy's attacks. The info's from Ammy's official trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6R3FKWEFD4&feature=channel, for those of you who wish to verify this. 75.157.120.15 ( talk) 08:20, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
I know that people have been trying to add this, but I want to be clear: the Okami cover has clearly been seen several times in South Park (any scene with the game store, so it goes far back several seasons). But, and this is important, there is no direct reference to the cover or the game of any sort - it is a background prop. Thus, it is a trivial inclusion to the article, unless there is a reliable source that notes this occurrence for us. This has to be more than just a forum or blog post or a screenshot. And I've looked for them and haven't found any myself because I would like it added to the article. -- MASEM ( t) 16:37, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
On several occasions, Issun refers to Amaterasu as "her". One example I can think of at the top of my head is when talking to Rao, Issun refers to Amaterasu as "her". Stating that the NA version doesn't refer to Amaterasu as a specific sex is incorrect and should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.92.67 ( talk) 17:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to add that Waka says "ma cherie", which is proper French only when spoken to a *woman*. 75.73.139.144 ( talk) 21:58, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
I tried adding the article into Category:New game plus video games, but after editing it the category doesn't show. Any explanation on this, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.8.218.39 ( talk) 05:40, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
In a certain cutscene of Okamiden where Chibiterasu (Son of Amaterasu, and Ammy is revealed to be female) meets Shiranui (Revealed to be male), it is revealed that Ammy and Shiranui weren't one and same, and that Shiranui is Ammy's FATHER. How that was cleared up? Isshaku (Shiranui's faithful companion) says: "What?! He is your Grandson?!" and gets as surprised as every gamer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.4.17.4 ( talk) 18:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
We in (that it town my home) of Korean Okami is. Poluar. We hav champions game play. I this put up of photos internet this wikipead page of the gams? i and is son of my let last year is the game championship? will put is up for polar. Hammy Longfellow ( talk) 19:07, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
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So, this Article says that the title Ōkami is 大神 in Japanese which certainly makes sense because Amaterasu is the name both of the wolf and of a prominent deity in Shinto.
But the title seems to be a play on words since the word ōkami could mean either “Great Spirit” as in this Article or “ Wolf” (see 狼)—both of which are accurate descriptions. This seems to be corroborated by a statement in the Japanese version of this Article: 「タイトルの『大神』には、主人公が「天照大神」であることと、『狼』であることの二つの意味がこめられている。」 OzzyMuffin238 ( talk) 02:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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Can someone please add sales totals for the Wii version? It currently only has PS2 sales and it would be interesting to compare. Many thanks.
When it comes to the comparison of the wii sales and ps2 sales it mentions from march 2007 okamis total sales on ps2 where 270k, and it says from july 2008 okami wii sales were 280k. Now it says they both were on par in the same time frame but judging the dates these sales were measured and the release date of the games that's clearly not true and the article mentioned doesnt state aything on this time frame so who ever put it in has done so without any reference. Is it ok if I remove it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.170.237.182 ( talk) 19:00, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm not so sure it would be good to state an assumption about Amaterasu's gender on the wiki page. Even if it's based on artwork for "Golden Fury", artwork isn't quite the best source for information as nothing is directly stated. In the game, the wolf lifts its leg to perform "Golden Fury". In real life, only the alpha male does this in a wolf pack (and females and subordinate males squat). Amaterasu is referred to as a mother (as the embodiment of the reincarnation) and many times as a he. With the vagueness of gender reference in Japanese language, the gender might not be specified at all. Or it could be the same, alternating between male and female references. Gods have been just as capable as Goddesses of being "mothers" and "sources of life" in mythology.
I'm not saying I know for a fact Oukami Amaterasu is female/male/both/neither/indeterminate or anything, but I think that the quip about it being a female shouldn't be there as a "safe to assume" fact. I'm hesitant to remove it myself, because of my lack of evidence. At the same time, no definite sources on the information (other than concept artwork) have been cited yet. If someone puts up a definite citation, I'll be content. :) Accelagirl 16:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Note the English manual specifically says "Though deliberately written to be a genderless character in the game...", pg 34. Masem 02:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
There is a line in the game that says "Ammy is sensitive about her flaws.". Her flaws, that is. I just now as of this writing saw it after speaking to Rao after escaping from the water dragon. It probably doesn't mean anything, but I thought it would be interesting to know. PiccoloNamek 03:31, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Also, Yatsu (I think it was Yatsu anyway) says that he sees Ammy's true form as "a fair maiden". (I may not have th exact words, but that's the gist of it anyway.) -- Just an anonymouse
Well, I DO know Shiranui's a boy. However, Amaterasu, as a goddess, is female. She's both, at this point, with her true form being female(as said above), her incarnation is male.
Just to point something out: When you first go to see Ishaku (at least I think that's how you spell it) in the Poncle village he calls you Ammy. So technically Shiranui was the name given to Amaterasu by the villagers. They could have assumed that Amaterasu/Shiranui was male. ~Rainpaw
Ammy is OFFICIALLY genderless.
Can somebody work this into the article? Ammy is officially genderless, according to a 1up interview with Capcom localization producer David Crislip @ [1]. The female thing only arose due to localization issues.
1UP: What other sort of things went on behind the scenes in localizing Okami?
DC: Here's a few tidbits. Issun the character has a specific nickname for Amaterasu in the Japanese version where he calls her -- or I should say "him." I shouldn't say her. Actually that's one thing I should mention R&D is very adamant about making Amaterasu genderless, which made localization very hard. Because we use pronouns a lot: he, she.
1UP: And Amaterasu is supposed to be a goddess.
DC: Yeah, and in traditional lore, the Amaterasu of those stories is definitely a sun goddess. But I guess the point Kamiya was trying to make is that this character is called Amaterasu, but it's not necessarily the Amaterasu. Because if you go by proper legend, Susano is Amaterasu's brother, and Tsukiyomi, which is actually a sword in the game, is one of their siblings.
1UP: So it's an embodiment, and genderless Amaterasu...
DC: Right, they're taking the names and general themes, but it's not necessarily the Amaterasu, it's a character named Amaterasu. For the European versions, I think they'll have to go ahead and make it a female because it'll be too hard to write around that. But for English, that was really difficult because we couldn't use he or she, and we didn't want to use "Amaterasu" every time we mentioned the character's name.
1UP: And you didn't want to use "it."
DC: Exactly. So we used "the wolf," "the god," things like that. There were ways around it, but it wasn't easy. But speaking of that, it leads me to what I was saying about Issun. In the Japanese version, Issun refers to Amaterasu as Ammako, and we were struggling with what to do with that in English. Adding 'ko" to the end of something doesn't make sense to an English speaker. But Kamiya actually thought of "Ammy" himself so people wouldn't mispronounce it as "Amy." And feeling-wise, it's very, very close to the way it would sound to a Japanese speaker.
"Nippon" is the Japanese word for Japan. As such, its redendent saying its set in Nippon during the Japanese classical period for it is redundency. 72.81.9.212 16:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Something just doesn't seem right about that portion of the entry. If it were just a passing comment in one of the other sections that would be fine, but an entirely new section seems a little extreme. Comments like: "Smashable pots" in relation to the Zelda series is rediculous. Thats like comparing almost every FPS to Goldeneye because they both have exploding barrels. Almost sounds like fanboyism. --MajorCOW 22:20, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I think it's fair to mention that Okami and Zelda have a number of similar elements, such that most reviews can be summarized as "Zelda for PS2". But there doesn't need to be a breakdown exactly of every commonality - it's just that "Zelda for PS2" alone should adequetely get across the type of game it is rather well. If such a list becomes necessary, that probably should fall under the Reviews or Critiques section, but outside of Gameplay --Masem 8:30, 12 October 2006
The game sold horribly in japan(at least initially), anyone have anymore detailed information about that? Hitmaker 00:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
what is the story line ? if you think about it , it is actullay about those gods who are trying to bring back the color of the world.
But, until now there are no further info about all this , what we know is so littele , wich makes us think , maybe the game does not offer to much ? ..........
Is the story line supposed to be written in present or in past tense? Please choose one or the other.
We can find a little bit about the story line reading something about the Japan Mythology. Betum ( talk) 18:47, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Whoever is changing the date for the U.S to September 20, please stop. Both GameInformer and Gamestop say it is coming out the 5th, several American magazines have already reviewed it, they ussually dont get games that far in advance,thank you.
Err, IGN isn't always right. Alot of DS games have the release date as December 31 in Japan, when most of those games are already out in Japan. I've found that GameInformer and Gamestop ussualy get their dates correct. -- DaxterKing
Ok, guess I was wrong. The latest issue of GI said the 5th and Gamestop just changed the date.Sorry-- DaxterKing
Isn't Amaterasu a reincarnation of Shiranui, not the god/dess him/herself?
It states in the game that OKami is the reborn Shiranui, but the godess gave the last of her strength to him =/
At the end of the game, it's revealed that Amaterasu, on Waka's advice, came to earth in the form of a white wolf to hunt the Orochi and wait for Nagi to be born. The villagers assumed that the albino wolf prowling their village was another monster, assumed it was male, and named it Shiranui. After Amaterasu/Shiranui died fighting Orochi, she was revived a century later by Sakuya in a weakened form. 75.157.120.15 ( talk) 08:04, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
this is usually here but its not anymore its coming out the 19th so it should be there until its out
"For those who preordered the game, the game came with a limited edition art board/buddha."
The Buddha Board/ Art Board was a preorder special only from EB Games and Gamestop. If the game was preodered else where, it never came with Art board / Buddha Board. I would change this myself but I lack resources to prove this.
I don't find the recent change of the Trivia section necessary. There are numerous parodies, cameos, and tie ins to numerous games. Many of which are extremely precise and tying them all under a single statement seems to go against the point of that entire section. Am I the only one that feels this way? VerasGunn 21:01, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
The game has quite a large number of characters, and it could make this article look cluttered. 24.97.33.132 15:50, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
It strikes me as odd that above the content box it is noted that a demo of the game was featured in two copies of Official PlayStation Magazine. This has nothing to do with the game itself. I will delete it. If anyone disagrees, say so.-- Soetermans 20:52, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
I added two tables for the vary brush techniques (the 13 Celestial ones, and the others that you use otherwise). I know there's more information that can be added which I don't have access to presently; for the 13 techniques, I think the name of the god that gave them to Ammy, the name of the technique, the kanji used (which is listed in the manual), and maybe an example picture for each. Similar ideas for the second table, though as these aren't part of the Celestial Techiques, they won't have the same stuff (like the god granting it to Ammy). Masem 16:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, the tables say that making constellations isn't a brush stroke technique. But it is. It is the Sunrise technique. The Sunrise technique allows you to make stars (the sun is a star) and you have it at the beginning of the game. -- Anon, 22 October 2006
Right argument, wrong technique. The Sunrise technique is only used to draw the Sun, not just any old star. When you fill in a constellation, you are using Rejuvenation, the same technique you use to repair a bridge or complete a watermill. 210.216.45.65 16:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC) Anonymous
Should I have added metacritic's entry for Okami in the External links? I'm unfamiliar with the policy of wiki in regards to such sites. -- Havermayer 20:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
As noted by Stratadrake,the question is, is all the game references (even if pulled out of trivia and it's own section like I did) listcruft or not. Now, I note a lot of gaming wiki article have references of a game in other games but not references of a game in the present one, or at least not as common, which is the reverse of what we've got here so far. I think it's fair to reduce that list down to say something like "Okami has references to many other Capcom titles, including (list)", add a wiki comment that no addition references should be spelled out in Okami, but instead added to the appropriate game (so, like all the Viewtiful Joe refs should be in that article). Masem 05:43, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
*Kaguya has a dome on her head, which might be a reference to Arieta from [[Cyberbots]].
I don't see any reason for the move. "Okami" outside of the video game sense seems to be a word to describe wolves, but not a specific kind of wolf or the like, so it otherwise lakes the specificity to be it's own topic. Mind you, if there's a specific reason to have a different "Okami" article, then the move makes sense, but I don't see that yet. Masem 19:42, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
I made a tiny addition to Inaba bullet point mentioning the rabbit Inaba can be seen at the same time as the creators name during the credits. It's just one sentence i doubted it would matter at all i just wanted to bring it to attention in case someone felt it didn't deserve a place in the paragraph.
IGN is not a good source, It probably won`t come out feb 02 in pal regions. We need more info. user:EEVEE103
Is the Brush techniques (in the gameplay section) really needed? Wikipedia isn't a game guide, it's an encyclopedia. I can understand small notes about it, but not a full table. RobJ1981 06:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
As I saw no objections, I've taken out the Brush Technique table, but put the Brush Gods in as a minor character section. The only remaining step is if we should still take the characters to a separate page. -- Masem 17:30, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Is it really required to list so many review scores? Many other articles usually mention the most well known of sources. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stabby Joe ( talk • contribs) 19:20, 14 January 2007 (UTC).
Isn't it kind of weird how Okami won game of the year on IGN when it didn't even win best PS2 game of the year? RammaYB 21:37, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I've seen several gaming magazines saying that despite all the critical love, Okami didn't make hardly any dents in the sales charts (either for Japan or the US). For Okami to turn out like another Ico, this really needs mention. Got figures? -- Stratadrake 18:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
[3], [4] - Rumors of Okami on Wii or 360 [5] - Inaba hints at poor sales in Japan [6] - Spong.com describes Okami as "17th" [7] - Gamasutra - Okami debuted #6 in Japan -- Stratadrake 04:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Statement from Official Playstation Magazine, January 2007 issue, "JTown" section. I don't have the issue on hand, but I remember it saying something like:
Okami was a failure in Japan, where it didn't even make a dent in the sales charts. Only after extreme discounting did it pass 66,000 copies; in a country with tens of millions of PS2's, anything less than 100,000 is considered a failure.
-- Stratadrake 19:53, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I've got a fever, and the only cure is MORE SCREENSHOTS! A HUGE part of Okami is the visual style of the game, failing to include a single screenshot in an article about this game is really a hindrance!
Seriously, this article needs MORE SCREENSHOTS!
PyroGamer 15:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I totally agreed the article states the beauty of the graphics but doesn't have any screenshots... a bit odd
"Electronic Gaming Monthly gave it a 9/9.5/9 out of ten"
Needs to be re-worded -- Unsigned comment
Some people, myself included, have great difficulty finding all the stray beads. Maybe it would be beneficial to include a section about stray beads. There are 100 stray beads littered across the different areas of the game, but they are NOT easy to find. I'm positive that there could be some people who come and view this article that would greatly appreciate a list of the stray beads and their exact locations. It may be difficult to compile a list working alone, but I believe there are lists out there somewhere, I just can't find one!! Just what I think might help out the article from my point of view. Darres vampire 16:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I added a bunch of links to articles not made about any possible Japanese legends. I am requesting that somebody does some research and at the very least make the articles stubs. If there is no legend associated with that character, one should revert the link to just text. I hope you understand me. -- Eiyuu Kou 16:43, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
The Japanese word for wolf is also Ōkami - 狼. As the player is both a wolf and a god, is there any proof that the game's title refers to "great god" as claimed in the article rather than "wolf"? Or perhaps it is a pun? Dracker 17:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Are the red markings on the Gods worth mentioning that they resemble that of a
Kabuki
Kumadori? In my opinion, it is.
--
BryghtShadow
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See Good Article Criteria for further details.
Overall, this is a pretty nice article which is bursting full of references. The plot rehash section is nicely trimmed to explain the significant facts, and not the tiny minor details. Nicely enriched with images, and neutral altogether. Great game and good work. NSR77 T C 18:01, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to try to pass this article as an FA; I don't see anything that fails the immediate guidelines, and I really don't see much else that could be added to "complete" the article further. -- Masem 14:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't see any notable sources with the Wii-port rumor. I highly doubt a game that sold under 300,000 copies on the system with the world's largest install base will be ported to a system with less than 1/10th the number of systems. Call me crazy, but this game contributed to the closing of Clover, Capcom are not financial retards. 70.71.197.16 02:45, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Very recently, there was a change to the article removing a little of the information about the Nintendo Wii's version of Okami. It was done by an IP adress that has done some vandalization in the past, and I don't see why it should have been deleted. I am just going to go ahead and revert this, if it really doesn't belong, just RV it back. It was minor anyway. Check here, to see what I mean; Okami latest history Thanks! Mizu onna sango15 02:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I see no spoiler alert, however the story section seems to summarize the entire game.
User:Hue03 added a collapsible table of the Celestial Brush gods under characters. While I think there's something good about doing this, I don't know for sure if it's really needed; making it collapsible helps, but if we include the C. Brush gods, whats to start us from adding other minor characters? Any other thoughts on this? -- MASEM 18:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Has there been a discussion as to why this article is allowed to break, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)? I don't see it here nor in the archive.
There was some discussion here #Requested_Move but not sure if that's completely related. Also the basis for moving it from Okami in that article's history says Okami has been moved to Ōkami.: see the logo. However I don't think that is reason to break naming convention. Strongsauce ( talk) 17:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
When Stan goes to the video game store in the South Park episode "Guitar Queer-O", the shelves behind the counter are all full of Okami boxes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.71.175.5 ( talk) 06:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
http://kotaku.com/381846/ign-watermark-in-okami-cover-art http://www.joystiq.com/2008/04/20/uh-ohkami-capcom-botches-okami-wii-box-art-inadvertently-adver/
Anyone fancy putting this into the article somewhere? Ixistant ( talk) 19:39, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
I hear that the clovers were removed and the credits were edited. -- 68.161.161.206 ( talk) 04:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have any numbers on the sales of Okami for the Wii in North America? I have been looking and have yet to find anything. I assume is was lukewarm as far as sales go? Ryne11 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 05:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
I was surprised how few characters are mentioned as linked to Japanese mythology. I think an Okami characters page would be a great idea (I know someone mentioned it before, but we still don't have one). There are so many countless references that aren't even mentioned. Some examples: Susano's similarity to Susanoo Kushi in the Susanoo legend Tsukuyomi is the name of Susano's sword in the game, and the moon god in shinto mythology (you have to make the moon shine in the Orochi battle) Sakuya's relevence to Konohana-sakuya-hime (plus, the Konohana shuffle *dancedance*) ok, i know there are a lot more but i'll stop rambling now...please consider expanding this great article though! ~Ash3s 7/11/08 11:09 AM
This Featured Article has a total of three dead external links, which can be found here. Please fix them as soon as possible. Thanks! -- haha169 ( talk) 00:44, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
"...we're getting the game up and running first. The game is enormous. If after we have every thing working correctly, cleanly and as desired so as not to "break" the amazing experience that is Ōkami, we will worry about potential enhancements. As we are NOT at that point in the process yet, we are loathe to even mention any potential changes or enhancements for fear of disappointing the fans/media."
Loathe is an accepted variant of loath(adj.), as per Merriam Webster Dictionary of English Usage found[ here.]
There is no need for [sic]
24.251.133.172 ( talk) 13:01, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
I know that the Wii version, gameplay-wise, is not so unique, and especially not plot-wise - in essence, it's just a port. However, I think if we split the Wii version out, we'll end up with two smaller FAs as opposed to one big FA. I wrote up a dirty example here. Gameplay and Plot sections obviously need trimming and modification, but it has a huge development section and the reception section could easily be expanded. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:43, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
This should be corrected: Under the paragraph is written "Mika Matsūra" which is wrong, given that the name consists of 松 (matsu) and 浦 (ura) witch makes the "u" in the name not stretched like in other words but the two parts separated. Thus it would be correct if the name was actually written as Matsuura.
I just beat the game and I see two errors in the character section. First off it says that in the North American version of the game, Amaterasu doesn't have a specific sex. I have that version and in that game Ammy is still specified as a female as demonstrated when the Gods refer to her as "the mother to us all" and the spirit in the Gale Shrine identifies her true form as a "fair maiden."
Also it says there is no singular antagonist in the game. At the end of the game wasn't it revealed that every monster in the game, including Orochi and Ninetails, was under the control of Yami who was the Ruler of Darkness and thus the game's main villain? -- 24.46.117.40 ( talk) 13:38, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
In my version of the manual, on page 36, it says "Though deliberately written to be a genderless character in the game, Amaterasu is portrayed as a woman in the context of Shinto mythology". Well, this wouldn't be the first time that a manual was wrong about a game; the game does specifically and repeatedly portray Amaterasu as female. Not just in the instances that the original poster said, but if I recall rightly, Issun teases Amaterasu in a way that indicates she's female. All I can tell you is that right from early on in the game, I was very aware that I was playing a female character. How's that for genderless. And frankly, I'd take what the game actually does over what the manual says the game does. It doesn't work both ways. Once a character is identified as one gender, that means they're no longer genderless. I also say we change the "U.S. version" reference to "English version", since the USA isn't the only Western and English-speaking country. clicketyclick 15:45, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Amaterasu appears in the Marvel vs. Capcom 3 game as a Capcom character, using her Celestial Brush techniques and weapons from the game. It would appear that Issun, as in Ōkami, acts as the dialogue proxy and comic relief by taunting the opponents during Ammy's attacks. The info's from Ammy's official trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6R3FKWEFD4&feature=channel, for those of you who wish to verify this. 75.157.120.15 ( talk) 08:20, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
I know that people have been trying to add this, but I want to be clear: the Okami cover has clearly been seen several times in South Park (any scene with the game store, so it goes far back several seasons). But, and this is important, there is no direct reference to the cover or the game of any sort - it is a background prop. Thus, it is a trivial inclusion to the article, unless there is a reliable source that notes this occurrence for us. This has to be more than just a forum or blog post or a screenshot. And I've looked for them and haven't found any myself because I would like it added to the article. -- MASEM ( t) 16:37, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
On several occasions, Issun refers to Amaterasu as "her". One example I can think of at the top of my head is when talking to Rao, Issun refers to Amaterasu as "her". Stating that the NA version doesn't refer to Amaterasu as a specific sex is incorrect and should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.92.67 ( talk) 17:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to add that Waka says "ma cherie", which is proper French only when spoken to a *woman*. 75.73.139.144 ( talk) 21:58, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
I tried adding the article into Category:New game plus video games, but after editing it the category doesn't show. Any explanation on this, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.8.218.39 ( talk) 05:40, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
In a certain cutscene of Okamiden where Chibiterasu (Son of Amaterasu, and Ammy is revealed to be female) meets Shiranui (Revealed to be male), it is revealed that Ammy and Shiranui weren't one and same, and that Shiranui is Ammy's FATHER. How that was cleared up? Isshaku (Shiranui's faithful companion) says: "What?! He is your Grandson?!" and gets as surprised as every gamer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.4.17.4 ( talk) 18:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
We in (that it town my home) of Korean Okami is. Poluar. We hav champions game play. I this put up of photos internet this wikipead page of the gams? i and is son of my let last year is the game championship? will put is up for polar. Hammy Longfellow ( talk) 19:07, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
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So, this Article says that the title Ōkami is 大神 in Japanese which certainly makes sense because Amaterasu is the name both of the wolf and of a prominent deity in Shinto.
But the title seems to be a play on words since the word ōkami could mean either “Great Spirit” as in this Article or “ Wolf” (see 狼)—both of which are accurate descriptions. This seems to be corroborated by a statement in the Japanese version of this Article: 「タイトルの『大神』には、主人公が「天照大神」であることと、『狼』であることの二つの意味がこめられている。」 OzzyMuffin238 ( talk) 02:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)