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-- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:59, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
-- Another Believer ( Talk) 02:19, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Pride will be a topic of the June Wikimedia Commons photo challenge. Please familiarise yourselves with the challenge, spread the word and participate in June. I will be posting some examples of suitable images around 1 June when the new challenge is officially launched, but basically it would be anything useful to this project. Helen Online 10:55, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
I'd appreciate comments which, if any, pictures I took in Seoul and that are now at commons:Category:Korea Queer Culture Festival would be suitable for this context. I was not able to say for the parade itself which sadly got delayed something like 6 hours... but I do have some interesting photos of anti-LGBT protesters, which may be quite useful in illustrating the controversy aspect of this topic, perhaps? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:13, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Update: I also created Wikipedia:Meetup/Seoul/Wiki Loves Pride 2014, which you are free to edit as you see fit, Piotrus. - Another Believer ( Talk) 15:00, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
The June photo challenges have now closed. Thank you to everyone who submitted entries for the WLP2014 challenge. We have 51 submissions which I consider a success. You are allowed to vote for images submitted by others if your Commons account is at least ten days old and has more than 50 edits or if you participated in one of the challenges. I will post a link to the voting page when it is ready shortly. I will also post the top 3 winners here in early August. Helen Online 07:59, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
The voting page is now open. Please help us choose the winners. Helen Online 09:51, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
One day left to vote. Helen Online 10:49, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you to everyone who participated and congratulations to the winners! Helen Online 07:59, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
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Title | EuroPride 2010 in Warsaw, Poland. |
EuroPride 2010 in Warsaw, Poland. |
Life Ball 2014: Jean Paul Gaultier, Conchita Wurst and Gery Keszler |
Author | Nikodem Nijaki | Nikodem Nijaki | Tsui |
Score | 13 | 12 | 9 |
The international 2014 Wikimedia conference, Wikimania, will be in London in August. The hosts have offered to print paper advertisements for projects on Wikipedia. In Wiki Loves Pride month, the community should finalize the LGBT proposal at the leaflet page. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:57, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
The Seattle Attic Community Workshop might be able to host the Seattle edit-a-thon. -- Fhocutt ( talk) 21:23, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
I realize that what I am about to post will not go over well here. But I think it needs to be said all the same, albeit with the utmost respect for those who with good intentions support this. In my opinion it is unfortunate that Wikipedia is undertaking a project that is certain, and not without good reason, to be seen as taking sides on a hot button political - cultural issue that has deeply divided much of the world. It is already widely believed by many editors and those not affiliated with the Encyclopedia that there is a deeply ingrained liberal bias here. It is inconceivable that this sort of thing will not lend weight to those perceptions. For the record, I have no dog in this fight. My own views are moderately libertarian, which is to say I have a live and let live approach to other people's personal lives. My concern here is the reputation of the Encyclopedia, particularly with respect to the imperative that Wikipedia avoid insofar as possible, anything that might impugn its objectivity and neutrality. With much respect... - Ad Orientem ( talk) 15:26, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Comment I have read the above replies to my original post and thank the editors for their thoughtful responses. That said, my concerns remain. Assurances to the contrary, it is all but impossible to believe that any non-Wikipedian or newbie would not see the title alone of this undertaking as a giant flashing neon-sign, blinking the word Bias. Those already suspicious of liberal bias on the encyclopedia, and based purely on some anecdotal evidence and personal experiences, I count myself in that number, are almost certainly going to find their suspicions reinforced. In any event I am not looking to disrupt your project and having said my peace, will now move on. Respectfully... - Ad Orientem ( talk) 15:25, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps some people are not aware that the title format "Wiki Loves [whatever]" is not specific to this campaign? I think it is a wonderful way to get more people involved in Wikipedia. Its goal, like Wikipedia's, is to improve free access to knowledge. I don't see how that can be a bad thing. Wikipedia still has its NPOV policy, just better coverage. As for the topic in question, I don't see how anyone could object to improving coverage about a human rights issue. We have a wonderful constitution in my country, but lesbians still get raped and murdered by members of their own community and on the same continent homosexuals face very harsh penalties from the authorities. I am glad I can help in some small way. Helen Online 06:51, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
We seem to have a couple of different issues of disagreement, of different sizes. First, as pointed out above "Perhaps some people are not aware that the title format 'Wiki Loves [whatever]' is not specific to this campaign." Yes, I was part of that group. But "Wiki Loves [whatever]" is an odd way to announce a campaign to promote editing articles on a broad topic. Imagine efforts to promote editing articles on climate change, genocides, colonialism -- this would give "Wiki loves climate change", "Wiki loves genocides", "Wiki love colonialism"! It would be more generically appropriate to say "Wiki welcomes editing articles on [whatever]"? Secondly, it's hard to understand how "Wiki loves Pride", even if following an existing template, comes close to being a neutral point of view. Pete unseth ( talk) 14:17, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
For whatever it's worth, I'd also like to weigh in on this topic. As a long time IP user of Wikipedia, I found it a big, particularly unpleasant surprise to recently see huge Celebrate PRIDE #wikilovespride banners all over the website as I had been trying to find a piece of information. As the project page claims that the campaigns have been running since 2014, either they must have been much less aggressive than this year, or I must have been lucky not to have noticed them earlier. The way the project is run, I believe that it actively promotes strong expression of editorial bias, something that should especially be avoided in topics as controversial as this. Having acknowledged the support of the Wikimedia Foundation for that state of things – without their support, I doubt that a minority group could aggressively advertise here something so clearly politically aligned – I have decided to completely cut my financial donations towards Wikipedia, which I have previously occasionally sent. I hope that there are enough people out there who have decided the same to make a difference and make the Wikimedia Foundation rethink their responsibility. 159.205.199.153 ( talk) 21:25, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
Would there be a campaign called "Wiki loves Nazism" or "Wiki loves Domestic Violence"? Would that be permitted. If not, then having a Wiki loves pride is equally biased.
Somua35 ( talk) 19:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
I am hoping other chapters have the same question but what is the threshold of inclusion in Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Pride 2014? I have been reviewing what is already included on Wikipedia (Atlanta pages, for example, since it is my area) and have begun listing creation and improvement pages on Wikipedia:Meetup/Atlanta/Wiki Loves Pride 2014.
I have reviewed Wikipedia:Notability but wonder how deep we can go in creating pages. Do we create a page for every Atlanta LGBT bar, organization, sports and activists (past and present)? I realize this is not a directory but many of these subjects have a history.
Any guidelines would be appreciated.
tdempsey ( talk) 21:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
I think this is a great idea (and a great way to recruit and mentor new Wikipedia editors) and would like to see a San Francisco bay area venue. It seems a bit late to get that started for 2014, and I personally am not available this summer. Any interest for next year? San Francisco seems like the logical place, though San Jose might be a convenient additional venue for those of us who live in the south bay. Peter Chastain [habla, por favor] 19:07, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Why so much spam on pages of unrelated projects? bobrayner ( talk) 21:27, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
One of the Wikimedia movement's favorite pastimes is to find every way we can to make our efforts better. Personally, it is something I find very alluring and endearing about the movement. It is also something I have already done a few times with this year's WLP. :) However, sometimes that means we do not spend enough time thanking people for their work. While some may despite various aspects of this project, and we all know they will for awhile, I do not think anyone will despite that the organizers got the word out, assembled a viable project, put in a lot of their volunteer time, and executed it admirably, respectfully, and patiently. Kudos to everyone involved with bringing this effort together - especially OR drohowa and Another Believer - for doing something I can think you can be very proud of (ha - proud - can ya see it's pride..yeah..). I hope that once all the feedback is assimilated, you undertake organizing next year's efforts soon. I suspect this has the potential to experience healthy growth in future years. Good work, THANK YOU for all your time, and congratulations! -- Varnent ( talk)( COI) 23:47, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I am trying to download some free images from Flickr to transfer them to Commons, such as this one to illustrate Lesbophobia and Corrective rape and can't for the life of me figure out how since they have changed the user interface. Helen Online 12:39, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I support this cause but I'd like to offer a minor criticism here that might be getting overlooked. The name 'Wiki loves Pride', specifically 'Pride' mostly makes sense in context of American LGBT movement. It has been shortened from LGBT pride to now just pride in colloquial use. Outside the US, the message here is very likely to be lost - pride alone is too ambiguous and vague to carry the same connotations. At first reading, and without context, I thought this was alluding to one of the seven deadly sins, ostentation or even a group of lions. The dictionary does not list any inferable reference to the LGBT community when one looks up pride. I'm sure this might not be a problem in US, but if this project/campaign is copied in any other country, there is high likelihood of confusion, not to mention translating this in other languages would compound the problem several fold. I hope this helps. Regards. Theo10011 ( talk) 13:12, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:18, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
This this been nominated for deletion per WP:TOOSOON. Bearian ( talk) 18:36, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
I've nominated Bolivia Carmichaels and Flawless Shade for Good article status, if anyone's interested in reviewing. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:46, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
I like the Press page we have for this, though see it has not been updated in some time. Does anybody know if there were Press stories that could be added for the recent years and were just missed, or was there really no press at all? --- FULBERT ( talk) 17:30, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 |
-- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:59, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
-- Another Believer ( Talk) 02:19, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Pride will be a topic of the June Wikimedia Commons photo challenge. Please familiarise yourselves with the challenge, spread the word and participate in June. I will be posting some examples of suitable images around 1 June when the new challenge is officially launched, but basically it would be anything useful to this project. Helen Online 10:55, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
I'd appreciate comments which, if any, pictures I took in Seoul and that are now at commons:Category:Korea Queer Culture Festival would be suitable for this context. I was not able to say for the parade itself which sadly got delayed something like 6 hours... but I do have some interesting photos of anti-LGBT protesters, which may be quite useful in illustrating the controversy aspect of this topic, perhaps? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:13, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Update: I also created Wikipedia:Meetup/Seoul/Wiki Loves Pride 2014, which you are free to edit as you see fit, Piotrus. - Another Believer ( Talk) 15:00, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
The June photo challenges have now closed. Thank you to everyone who submitted entries for the WLP2014 challenge. We have 51 submissions which I consider a success. You are allowed to vote for images submitted by others if your Commons account is at least ten days old and has more than 50 edits or if you participated in one of the challenges. I will post a link to the voting page when it is ready shortly. I will also post the top 3 winners here in early August. Helen Online 07:59, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
The voting page is now open. Please help us choose the winners. Helen Online 09:51, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
One day left to vote. Helen Online 10:49, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you to everyone who participated and congratulations to the winners! Helen Online 07:59, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Rank | 1 | 2 | 3 |
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Image |
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Title | EuroPride 2010 in Warsaw, Poland. |
EuroPride 2010 in Warsaw, Poland. |
Life Ball 2014: Jean Paul Gaultier, Conchita Wurst and Gery Keszler |
Author | Nikodem Nijaki | Nikodem Nijaki | Tsui |
Score | 13 | 12 | 9 |
The international 2014 Wikimedia conference, Wikimania, will be in London in August. The hosts have offered to print paper advertisements for projects on Wikipedia. In Wiki Loves Pride month, the community should finalize the LGBT proposal at the leaflet page. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:57, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
The Seattle Attic Community Workshop might be able to host the Seattle edit-a-thon. -- Fhocutt ( talk) 21:23, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
I realize that what I am about to post will not go over well here. But I think it needs to be said all the same, albeit with the utmost respect for those who with good intentions support this. In my opinion it is unfortunate that Wikipedia is undertaking a project that is certain, and not without good reason, to be seen as taking sides on a hot button political - cultural issue that has deeply divided much of the world. It is already widely believed by many editors and those not affiliated with the Encyclopedia that there is a deeply ingrained liberal bias here. It is inconceivable that this sort of thing will not lend weight to those perceptions. For the record, I have no dog in this fight. My own views are moderately libertarian, which is to say I have a live and let live approach to other people's personal lives. My concern here is the reputation of the Encyclopedia, particularly with respect to the imperative that Wikipedia avoid insofar as possible, anything that might impugn its objectivity and neutrality. With much respect... - Ad Orientem ( talk) 15:26, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Comment I have read the above replies to my original post and thank the editors for their thoughtful responses. That said, my concerns remain. Assurances to the contrary, it is all but impossible to believe that any non-Wikipedian or newbie would not see the title alone of this undertaking as a giant flashing neon-sign, blinking the word Bias. Those already suspicious of liberal bias on the encyclopedia, and based purely on some anecdotal evidence and personal experiences, I count myself in that number, are almost certainly going to find their suspicions reinforced. In any event I am not looking to disrupt your project and having said my peace, will now move on. Respectfully... - Ad Orientem ( talk) 15:25, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps some people are not aware that the title format "Wiki Loves [whatever]" is not specific to this campaign? I think it is a wonderful way to get more people involved in Wikipedia. Its goal, like Wikipedia's, is to improve free access to knowledge. I don't see how that can be a bad thing. Wikipedia still has its NPOV policy, just better coverage. As for the topic in question, I don't see how anyone could object to improving coverage about a human rights issue. We have a wonderful constitution in my country, but lesbians still get raped and murdered by members of their own community and on the same continent homosexuals face very harsh penalties from the authorities. I am glad I can help in some small way. Helen Online 06:51, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
We seem to have a couple of different issues of disagreement, of different sizes. First, as pointed out above "Perhaps some people are not aware that the title format 'Wiki Loves [whatever]' is not specific to this campaign." Yes, I was part of that group. But "Wiki Loves [whatever]" is an odd way to announce a campaign to promote editing articles on a broad topic. Imagine efforts to promote editing articles on climate change, genocides, colonialism -- this would give "Wiki loves climate change", "Wiki loves genocides", "Wiki love colonialism"! It would be more generically appropriate to say "Wiki welcomes editing articles on [whatever]"? Secondly, it's hard to understand how "Wiki loves Pride", even if following an existing template, comes close to being a neutral point of view. Pete unseth ( talk) 14:17, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
For whatever it's worth, I'd also like to weigh in on this topic. As a long time IP user of Wikipedia, I found it a big, particularly unpleasant surprise to recently see huge Celebrate PRIDE #wikilovespride banners all over the website as I had been trying to find a piece of information. As the project page claims that the campaigns have been running since 2014, either they must have been much less aggressive than this year, or I must have been lucky not to have noticed them earlier. The way the project is run, I believe that it actively promotes strong expression of editorial bias, something that should especially be avoided in topics as controversial as this. Having acknowledged the support of the Wikimedia Foundation for that state of things – without their support, I doubt that a minority group could aggressively advertise here something so clearly politically aligned – I have decided to completely cut my financial donations towards Wikipedia, which I have previously occasionally sent. I hope that there are enough people out there who have decided the same to make a difference and make the Wikimedia Foundation rethink their responsibility. 159.205.199.153 ( talk) 21:25, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
Would there be a campaign called "Wiki loves Nazism" or "Wiki loves Domestic Violence"? Would that be permitted. If not, then having a Wiki loves pride is equally biased.
Somua35 ( talk) 19:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
I am hoping other chapters have the same question but what is the threshold of inclusion in Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Pride 2014? I have been reviewing what is already included on Wikipedia (Atlanta pages, for example, since it is my area) and have begun listing creation and improvement pages on Wikipedia:Meetup/Atlanta/Wiki Loves Pride 2014.
I have reviewed Wikipedia:Notability but wonder how deep we can go in creating pages. Do we create a page for every Atlanta LGBT bar, organization, sports and activists (past and present)? I realize this is not a directory but many of these subjects have a history.
Any guidelines would be appreciated.
tdempsey ( talk) 21:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
I think this is a great idea (and a great way to recruit and mentor new Wikipedia editors) and would like to see a San Francisco bay area venue. It seems a bit late to get that started for 2014, and I personally am not available this summer. Any interest for next year? San Francisco seems like the logical place, though San Jose might be a convenient additional venue for those of us who live in the south bay. Peter Chastain [habla, por favor] 19:07, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Why so much spam on pages of unrelated projects? bobrayner ( talk) 21:27, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
One of the Wikimedia movement's favorite pastimes is to find every way we can to make our efforts better. Personally, it is something I find very alluring and endearing about the movement. It is also something I have already done a few times with this year's WLP. :) However, sometimes that means we do not spend enough time thanking people for their work. While some may despite various aspects of this project, and we all know they will for awhile, I do not think anyone will despite that the organizers got the word out, assembled a viable project, put in a lot of their volunteer time, and executed it admirably, respectfully, and patiently. Kudos to everyone involved with bringing this effort together - especially OR drohowa and Another Believer - for doing something I can think you can be very proud of (ha - proud - can ya see it's pride..yeah..). I hope that once all the feedback is assimilated, you undertake organizing next year's efforts soon. I suspect this has the potential to experience healthy growth in future years. Good work, THANK YOU for all your time, and congratulations! -- Varnent ( talk)( COI) 23:47, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I am trying to download some free images from Flickr to transfer them to Commons, such as this one to illustrate Lesbophobia and Corrective rape and can't for the life of me figure out how since they have changed the user interface. Helen Online 12:39, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I support this cause but I'd like to offer a minor criticism here that might be getting overlooked. The name 'Wiki loves Pride', specifically 'Pride' mostly makes sense in context of American LGBT movement. It has been shortened from LGBT pride to now just pride in colloquial use. Outside the US, the message here is very likely to be lost - pride alone is too ambiguous and vague to carry the same connotations. At first reading, and without context, I thought this was alluding to one of the seven deadly sins, ostentation or even a group of lions. The dictionary does not list any inferable reference to the LGBT community when one looks up pride. I'm sure this might not be a problem in US, but if this project/campaign is copied in any other country, there is high likelihood of confusion, not to mention translating this in other languages would compound the problem several fold. I hope this helps. Regards. Theo10011 ( talk) 13:12, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:18, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
This this been nominated for deletion per WP:TOOSOON. Bearian ( talk) 18:36, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
I've nominated Bolivia Carmichaels and Flawless Shade for Good article status, if anyone's interested in reviewing. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:46, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
I like the Press page we have for this, though see it has not been updated in some time. Does anybody know if there were Press stories that could be added for the recent years and were just missed, or was there really no press at all? --- FULBERT ( talk) 17:30, 12 May 2020 (UTC)