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I have modified the
Template:WikiProject Worcestershire to include categories Category:Worcestershire articles needing attention and Category:Worcestershire articles needing infoboxes - this should automatically generate lists on those category pages; the default settings are 'no'. I wish I had known about this feature earlier, it will make the comments on the project's page at
special 'to do' largely redundant.
However, any articles in need of very serious/urgent treatment (e.g. articles that I or someone has tagged as
PROD,
AfD,
Merge, blatant
POV, or blatant
NOT, will be put on the priority to do lists on the project front page.--
Kudpung (
talk) 01:20, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Here's a banner that we can place on other editors'/contributors' talk pages (The editor's name will change automatically, just change the link to the article):
Hi WikiProject Worcestershire/Archive 1! An article you have been involved with has been tagged by its parent project as being in need of a little attention or further development. If you can help with these minor issues please see: Talk:Article namespace |
Here's a message for new member talk pages thanking them for joining the project:
Hello, WikiProject Worcestershire/Archive 1, and welcome to Wikiproject Worcestershire! Thank you for your generous offer to help contribute. We're sure your input will be much appreciated and you enjoy contributing here and being a Worcestershire Wikipedian If you have any questions, feel free to discuss anything on the project talk page, and be bold with your ideas! |
I'm in a bit of a quandry: As I work through all the Worcs stubs, I come across some that have been PRODed and AfD'd for lack of notability. The paradox is that it appears that the Wiki policy is to create a stub for every square metre of land that has a name.
Can someone come up with an official line on this please? Otherwise I'll have to start by creating a page for every 2-street housing estate in the Barnards Green & Poolbrook area! --
Kudpung (
talk) 15:28, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
This discussion may be of interest. Nev1 ( talk) 22:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm not especially focusing on the CPs, but they are a starting point because their parish council websites are the first source that will mention the villages and hamlets they group. I'll plod on through the 800 or so places on the list and tag any possible mergers based on common sense following the help we have been given. That won't mean that I personally want them merged - it just means we should look at them collectively and reach a consensus.-- Kudpung ( talk) 11:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)Writing about the smallest of settlements in the UK can be difficult due to the lack of source material, especially when compared with the country's major metropolises. Some of the UK's smallest settlements may form part of a civil parish or council ward. Country hamlets and villages may mention significant places that might not be considered part of the village, but which lie within the parish or ward. Hamlets that are within another parish or council ward could have their own articles, but if there is no more than a couple of paragraphs that could be said about the hamlet it may be best practice to merge the articles.
"I have a personal policy that English villages should be written up at the civil parish level and was preparing to redirect
Queenhill and
Holdfast, Worcestershire to Longdon. But I cannot find the official name for the parish. The council website is no help..."
RHaworth (
Talk |
contribs) 18:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
I still don't really care either way, but I do think the Guideline in the box above sums it up rather nicely - which may mean discussing individual occurrences rather than unilateral action. --
Kudpung (
talk) 21:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I see on the main Project page that the shortcut is given as "WP-Worcs", but the convention for these things is that the names are of the form "WP:ALLCAPSNAME". For example, we already have the likes of WP:CHES, WP:HERTS and WP:NOTTS. Any objection to making our own shortcut WP:WORCS? Loganberry ( Talk) 13:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Just thought I'd remind any editors who are members of Worcestershire County Libraries that a number of reference works are available free of charge via their membership, including the Times archive up to 1985. Most (but not all) of these works are also available to them from home via their library ticket numbers. They're available via this Worcestershire hub page. Other libraries may well have similar arrangements, but naturally the Worcs one seems most relevant to us! Loganberry ( Talk) 11:47, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm having a discussion with user Kudpung regarding the actions at Hindlip Hall that led up to the martyrdoms at Red Hill, Worcester and the later beatifications. User Kudpungs has deleted this part of the Halls story apart from a reference to a "gunpowder plot event" in the lede. (This certainly breaks WP policy). Its your county. You decide. But can someone offer arbitration as I can't remember the last time someone took referenced material out of a Start class article that had already been peer reviewed (by DYK admins); placed that material in their own Sandbox and left the remaining article as a stub. I have always tried to do the exact opposite. I'm told its to avoid duplication, but these events are not ducumented at all in the Gunpowder Plot articles. Anyone care to be Solomon? Victuallers ( talk) 14:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
All village articles should now have infoboxes. Jenuk1985 | Talk 23:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I thought the members of this project might like to see the breakdown of its articles by quality, ranging from stub-class to Good Articles.
Index ·
Statistics ·
Log
Worcestershire articles by quality and importance | |||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Quality | Importance | ||||||
Top | High | Mid | Low | NA | ??? | Total | |
FA | 1 | 1 | 4 | 6 | |||
FL | 1 | 1 | |||||
GA | 4 | 3 | 6 | 13 | |||
B | 2 | 5 | 14 | 12 | 33 | ||
C | 1 | 5 | 20 | 73 | 2 | 101 | |
Start | 15 | 51 | 388 | 34 | 488 | ||
Stub | 1 | 6 | 586 | 19 | 612 | ||
List | 3 | 7 | 29 | 39 | |||
NA | 1 | 1 | 23 | 339 | 364 | ||
Assessed | 3 | 35 | 103 | 1,122 | 339 | 55 | 1,657 |
Unassessed | 3 | 11 | 14 | ||||
Total | 3 | 35 | 103 | 1,125 | 339 | 66 | 1,671 |
WikiWork factors ( ?) | ω = 6,641 | Ω = 5.30 |
Anyone can rate articles up to B-class, but higher ratings such as
Good Articles require submitting the article to a review process.
Featured Articles are the best content that wikipedia has to offer, and GAs are just below that standard although still require good referencing and a broad coverage of the topic. FAs can be difficult and much more time consuming to write than Good Articles because of the
stricter criteria, but GAs are certainly something to aim for, so it's worth bearing this in mind when expanding an article. In short, the
Good Article critera are that an article should be:
More details on the criteria can be found here. Nev1 ( talk) 17:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
I guessed you'd say that! It is tough. Not least because a lot of the discussion was spread over several Malvern related talk pages (one of the main reasons why I called the Worcestershire project into being). I put those merge tags on the articles myself, and GyroMagician and I seem to have agreed on the best way to go for the time being. FYI: neither Great Malvern, nor Malvern, have formal boundaries as such, and neither of them is the name of a civil parish or a ward. Great Malvern is the traditional town center, but ward 6 of the Malvern District Council covers practically the entire area we locals (and most people) just call Malvern, and if the Town council wards cover the same area as MHDC ward 6, those are likely to be the demog stats. However, for the purpose of an encyclopedia, the major article has to be Malvern, Worcestershire, with Great Malvern pruned down to strict, basic, town centre essentials, and get the same treatment as, say, Malvern Link. The councilors seem to pick and choose whatever seems to siut them. Bottom line is that 'Great Malvern' could cover the entire parish for the council, but for the local population that would be a very inacurate surmise. The town centre ward is in fact called 'Priory' ! To get the full picture, you would need to read both articles closely and see how I have tried to expalin it all. There is still someobvious duplication of content in both articles, but as I said, I'm trying to shift most of it into the ' Malvern, Worcestershire' article, so that readers get the global picture.-- Kudpung ( talk) 14:48, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm about to embark on an attempt to clean up the school articles. If anyone has any advice for us on this please discuss it here.-- Kudpung ( talk) 07:09, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi! You might be interested in the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dines Green. Thank you. Qwfp ( talk) 12:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC) (Using {{ Please see}}) Qwfp ( talk) 12:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Right, for each village in Category:Villages in Worcestershire I have added at least one picture, and they have their own commons category (in many cases, there are a load more pictures in that category). I've found all the images on Geograph, however, the following articles are still missing images/commonscats:
Unless anyone beats me to it, I'll try and go out for a drive sometime in the week to fill in the gaps! Jeni ( talk)(Jenuk1985) 01:24, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
I am copying this to here as it is a general project issue and will receive more attention than on my personal talk page:
It is a bad idea to have parish navboxes, as they are designed to provide navigation between existing articles. In Worcestershire we have articles on settlements, not civil parishes. I have started work on improving List of civil parishes in Worcestershire which can be linked to from the settlement navboxes. When I am finished with the Redditch district articles, I'll be doing the same for the Malvern Hills district articles. WP:NAVBOX makes good reading in this regard. Thanks! Jeni ( talk)(Jenuk1985) 18:03, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
I am familiar with the [[WP:NAVBOX]: article, unfortunately, I have already created a similar navbox for Wychavon parishes (see Evesham - this has created a lot of red links that are indicative of settlements that may need their own articles, and will shortly be removed again from the page). There are articles in Wikipedia about various parishes, and there are suggestetions about what to do with one-line articles about extremely small settlements that are destined to become perma-stubs. These issues may require a consensus that may even need further discussion with parent projects, or a closer look at how other county projects are managing similar issues. Please see the discussions above on this talk page.-- Kudpung ( talk) 05:26, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
I've never seen a civil parish with "town council" in the name. The reason the website says "Malvern town council" is because the website is about and belongs to the town council which runs the civil parish. For example, Trafford's official name is "Metropolitan Borough of Trafford", but the website (the council's wesite) very prominently at the top of the page says Trafford Council. I think in Malvern's case, the official name of the civil parish is Malvern rather than Malvern Town Council. I've not touched the categories, so I have no conflict with Jenuk and even if I did we could always discuss it on the talk page; however since the council asserts it's right to being a town council I'd say that the ciivl parish is a town. Parishes can also be towns as demonstrated by Shaw and Crompton and Partington, Greater Manchester. There is a category for civil parishes which can be added aswell. Nev1 (talk) 20:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm not so sure that it is a good idea for the encyclopedia to have articles on both civil parishes and settlements when they are one and the same; that would appear as going for redundancy or duplication. Moreover, there is a Wiki policy that in the case of small settlements that constitute a parish, they should be grouped into an article about their parish - but I don't interpret this as meaning that every parish should have an article of its own. I think that's what the List articles are for.-- Kudpung ( talk) 13:10, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
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I thought we could do with an icon (after seeing the Manchester pawn), so I drew a quick pear. Wadayathink? Useful? We could add it to various banners, userboxes (I live in Worcs, not WP:Worcs), etc. The file is an SVG, so it rescales to whatever size you need. GyroMagician ( talk) 08:54, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Greetings. While the degree to which I will be able to consistently contribute to the Worcestershire project in the foreseeable future remains currently in doubt, I can at least offer some observations.
With regards the question of 'where to start' and which articles to prioritise first, we might consider starting with articles that in terms of category or taxonomy, encapsulate other articles. So, the Worcestershire article shows a map containing six districts. As a non-native, the first thing I found myself looking for was something giving me an overview of the map and its six districts, rather than have to go to each article separately, read up, then come back to the parent article. In general, it would be easier for me to read an overview of Worcestershire and the districts which it encompasses, and then follow links for more information. Obviously, the way we read articles in practice is that sometimes something specific catches our attention, and we pursue that link. But not always, and I'd suggest it's good for the reader to have a choice of reading the overview, or pursuing their own little direction.
Now while we wouldn't necessarily want to dominate the structure of the article with an elaboration on the districts, we could capitalise on this by creating sections for each district, and providing an overview paragraph for each section. In doing so, we could first pay attention to the district articles containing the least development. Of these, Bromsgrove (district) appears the least developed. So we could kill two birds with one stone. Create a section for Bomsgrove, and simultaneously work on the Bomsgrove article, tacking back and forth as necessary. Similarly with Wychavon. As for the other districts, a section would be similarly useful, but they are all better developed. So if we've got their leads roughly right, we can just pinch the gist of those for yor paragraphs, and so concentrate our energies on the lesser-developed articles.
A similar strategy could be employed for any of the other articles in the Worcestershire project. That is, for each of the least developed articles, go up taxonomically to the broadest parent article, develop sections within that article or those articles, and simultaneously flesh out the sections whilst developing the the undeveloped articles. Thats essentially the strategy I employed when developing the Captain R.T. Claridge article, launching into other articles, and contributing to their development, the process of which helped me further develop the Claridge article, either directly or indirectly. Indeed it was that very process which led me to Malvern Water, and thence to the Malvern project, the process of which was rewarding in itself, but which also helped me with the article which I was trying to develop.
Just food for thought. Nothing revolutionary, and probably nothing that hasn't already occurred to others, and which isn't already done to a greater or lesser degree. But it sometimes helps to formalise these thoughts. Regards Wotnow ( talk) 11:08, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello all! As some of you have probably noticed, I've been creating some pages for WikiProject Worcestershire. I've created a sidebar (top right, main project page), which we should put on all project pages to aid navigation. I've worked a bit on our templates, to try to create a bit of an identity. I added some extra tags to the main Worcestershire banner (needs-refs and needs-photo), but I'm not sure these are a good addition - they look neat in the banner, but they only show up in the Worcestershire categories, rather than globally (Great Malvern Station, for example, is also a member of WikiProject Trains, who might also help sorting out the references). I also (after brief discussion with Kudpung) removed the B-class checklist. I don't find it useful, but I don't have a strong feeling (Jeni, I just noticed that you added it - if you find it useful, maybe we should re-add).
I added a black pear to the userboxes for lives in/is from Worcestershire. It seems like a suitable mascot, and is within my limited drawing skills! I created a couple of templates to welcome new users, or suggest that an editor join WikiProject Worcestershire - please use them as we have the opportunity. I've also started a page that will be, but isn't yet, about how to reference articles. I imagine this page being about both about Wikipedia technicalities, and how to find sources. We have a few members who are pretty hot on this, so it would be good to share the knowledge - how you find historic texts, useful websites, sources within the county, etc. I'm hoping some of you will add to this page.
We've made a good start on the county (Jeni - I've only just realised how many infoboxes you've added!), especially now we have a GA, but we should keep the momentum going.
Waddayathink folks? GyroMagician ( talk) 18:57, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Gyro started the ball rolling by adding a sidebar to all the project pages for better navigation. The project now has a cleaner main page for a better overview of project aims and content, and a completely new To Do page of articles needing urgent attention, listed by kind of action required. Other tasks remain listed in the comments on the lists of every Worcs article by category as shown with their links on the project main page. These lists are far more comprehensive than those items listed on the WP:WORCS/ToDo page which is really only for the very urgent items. The lists enable editors to pick and choose what they are good at improving if they can't find anything on the urgent list that they can offer immediate help with.-- Kudpung ( talk) 14:32, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Did You Know that a lot of flap is made on Wiki about the
WP:DYK articles? Never having contributed to one, I'm not so sure about their importance. Nevertheless, some of them are quite interesting and many editors appear to feel that gathering laurels for creating them is one of the paths to adminship - excuse my typical cynicism ;)
None of the regular Worcs project members appear to have created one (I may be wrong), so does anyone think it would be a good idea to have some DYKs about Worcs? Maybe we can come up with some ideas. -- Kudpung ( talk) 15:32, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
There is great consternation and much debate (too, too much) about tens of thousands of
BLPs that have been left, unreferenced, in a poor state, abandoned by their creators, and left to rot in full public view in defiance of Wikpedia's strict rules about BLP. The problem of a clean up is obviously the sheer quantity of pages to be vetted and decisions taken whether to improve them or delete them. Everyone wants to talk about it but only a dedicated few, particularly those with the 'special' tools and whose judgement can only be opposed without further straining the resources of the server, are prepared to dig in and do something. What they do is still nly a drop in the ocean.
It's been suggested that perhaps some action could be organised at project level. I'm guilty of not even having got round to putting the WP:WORCS banner on the talk pages of all the cat 'people connected with Worcs', but I did create the task list at
All Worcs related articles about people by ABC. It might be a great gesture if the Worcs project could do its bit and check out any unreferenced BLPs, and either rescue them, or PROD them. with a message to the major contributors. If the PROD doesn't help after the seven days, we just delete them.
Anyone for/against, or simply ready to roll up their sleeves?
--
Kudpung (
talk) 16:40, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
That decision, if I have anything to do with it, would be to either improve and clean up the article without necessarily xpanding it, or PRODing it. A PROD is good because it we think, even vaguley, that the article is not worth keepiing, if the original author(s) don't come along and do something after 7 days, we can delete it as per:
I have booked my flight for 1 April to the UK and will be staying in Malvern again for one month. if any one has a wish list for photos or sources in books or the WRO please don(t hesitate to let me know on my talk page Acoupl of project members a re looking forward to meeting up somewhere in the county whiule I am there, and I sincerely hope that this time round we'll b able to make it happen.-- Kudpung ( talk) 02:50, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Hanbury, Worcestershire: if somebody has time, could they please look into this article and find out where the COPYVIO comes from. The whole thing is so smooth and detailed, I don't believe it to be from the hand of a Wikipedian.-- Kudpung ( talk) 03:26, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
What did I do to receive that newsletter? I haven't significantly contributed to any articles about Worcestershire, but I've probably made minor edits to them. Many users, including myself, don't appreciate unsolicited newsletter postings like that. Also, please put your signature somewhere in the message. Graham 87 15:11, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Please take note that I do not really want to receive comments on my talk page about the newsletter, or anything else to do with the Worcs project that is not of a very personal nature. I firmly believe in keeping discussion in the right places, where everyone who may be concerned, has a fair crack at being kept up to date. Watching watch lists is a practice that still needs to be adopted by many Wikipedians. Please respect, but do not be offended or agressive by this request. Comments made to my tp will be moved to here.-- Kudpung ( talk) 13:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Addiing the project banners to the talk pages of places took about 30 hours - not non-stop of course ;) The main thing is that once the banners are on and assessed at least as stub/low, then they will be picked up by bots that will make work lists of them for us. The other thing of course, is to check for categories.I don't know how she does it, but Jeni has a remarkable way of being able to infoboxes to articles at (it seems) a rate of several hundred an hour. Maybe we're missing out on a lot of automations. -- Kudpung ( talk) 04:56, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Because most of the WP:WORCS articles are about places, there is often a section on local politics. The usual header is 'Governance'.
It's been noticed that a lot of non notable polticians have been creeping into the pages. Just to remind WP:WORCS participants who are actively cleaning up articles, that they can and should delete any politicians' names who do not meet the the notability criteria at
WP:POLITICIAN. That generally means paractically anyone below the MP of a parliamentary constituencey, such as most town and parish councillors, with the exception perhaps, of the mayor of a city or large town if he is also notable for other things.--
Kudpung (
talk) 22:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
I have just come across this Talk:Hanbury, Worcestershire#COPYVIO?. Checking it seems that someone has been a busy beaver. Looking at the history of the editors I have listed and the articles they have edited I think that this needs to be discussed by a wider audience and as they are nearly all Worcestershire related this is an obvious place to post this message. -- PBS ( talk) 09:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
The article concerning Fort Royal Hill ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Royal_Hill ) plagiarizes blatantly from the article about the Battle of Worcester ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Worcester ). Paragraph 2 under the "History" section of the Fort Royal Hill article is clearly copied and pasted from Paragraph 5 under "The Battle" on Battle article.
OpenStreetMap is holding a mapping party in this area on 17 April 2010 to make a creative commons licensed map that may be used in Wikipedia articles.
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This sounds like a very cool event. I won't be able to make it, but please turn up if you can. For more details, go to Mappa Mercia or see the Kidderminster talk page (despite what the banner says, leave any requests on the Kidderminster page, not here). Thanks to Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing) for originally posting! GyroMagician ( talk) 10:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
I've just started Worcestershire bus route 144, which has a long history, particularly in its past life of heading to Malvern. I was wondering if any of the guys from the Malvern area care to help me expand it? Jeni ( talk) 11:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
I was wondering whether anyone would be interested in helping to start a Herefordshire WikiProject. I got WikiProject Edinburgh off the ground a few months ago and am looking to start a few others so we can get better coverage of some of the UK's cities and counties. As Hereford has a long and interesting history I think it could be a useful collaboration. Any thoughts? TheRetroGuy ( talk) 12:14, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm probably goibng to be nominating a few shorter WP:WORCS articles for GA in the next few days. If anyone can make any last minute improvements or suggestions please go ahead. Comments on the article talk pages please:
-- Kudpung ( talk) 03:07, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I find myself more and more fighting vandalism on Worcs pages. This does not mean that there is necessarily more vandalism, but it means that I have all the Worcs pages on my watchlist and based on the edit summaries and user names/IPs, it is easy to identify what are probably vandalism and inappropriate edits.
This is using up a lot of my valuable content editing time. If would be great if project members could help look out for such disruptions. Some pages, particularly schools and
Redditch are more susceptible to attack than others. Any pages you visit will automatically be added to your watchlists. If you find any damage, you can use any of the automated and semi-automated tools such as
WP:Friendly and
WP:Twinkle, but as those tools do not always fully complete those tasks, do please also remember to add a warning or a vandal-welcome on the culprit's page. In so doing, it will help to get regular miscreants blocked. Thanks.--
Kudpung (
talk) 02:22, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
CONGRATULATIONS! - and thanks to everyone who worked so hard over the past few weeks to get Malvern water to GA. -- Kudpung ( talk) 23:38, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
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The 20o1 UK census website has moved and the links to it in many of our pages are returning a 404. Detailed demographic info is now available for districts, towns and neighbourhoods on this page at Worcs County Council: http://c/cms/community-and-living/research-and-intelligence/census-and-where-i-live/2001-census/area-profiles.aspx -- Kudpung ( talk) 03:13, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm still coming across a lot of Worcs related pages without the template on the talk pages. (This comes also from a massive stint I've been doing recently on NPP and various BLP backlogs). We can track some, but not all of them by taking an occasional look at the bot generated lists of Worcs related stubs and Worcs related cats.-- Kudpung ( talk) 06:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I've done some tweaks lately to the Evesham page. Surprisingly, it's looking quite good already and it could be a fairly easy nom for GA. Anyone interested in checking it over? -- Kudpung ( talk) 06:36, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I've just notice that Malvern College is rated as high importance, while Malvern Water is only of Mid importance. Can this be so? A toff's school is more important than Nature's own million-year-old water clarification plant? (kidding, KIDDING!). But still, given my apple and your orange, which is more important? GyroMagician ( talk) 00:25, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
It has been suggested that the name of the Malvern, Worcestershire page be moved to Malvern, to bring it in line with Wikipedia policy at WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Everyone is welcome to express their opinion.-- Kudpung ( talk) 13:21, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
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Jeepday (
talk) 11:52, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
I've done quite a lot of work on the Dodford, Worcestershire page. It would be great if someone could check it, and and perhaps review the quality / importance. scale I think it's quite important from a national social history POV. Jim Killock (talk) 12:18, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- is one of the largest (if not the largest) towns in the county and its Wikipedia article is a target for frequent spam and vandalism. Good faith edits from anon users also occasionally need correcting or tweaking. Please let's keep Redditch on our watchlists and intervene as necessary. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 01:58, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
I posed that over three and a half years ago and for some reason Redditch is still a major target for disruptive editing. It would be good if participants in the Worcs project could keep it on their watchlists. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 02:38, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
Malvern, Worcestershire: A peer review has been requested here prior to eventual nomination for FA. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 07:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
As of July 2011 there are around 70 unassessed Worcestershire articles listed at Category:Unassessed Worcestershire articles. If anyone has a moment, it would be good to have a look at these. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 15:35, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Worcestershire/Article alerts has been created; generating Article alerts for this WikiProject. Timrollpickering ( talk) 20:23, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
List of Old Malvernians has been submitted for peer review. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 04:29, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
List of Old Malvernians has now been peer reviewed. The reviewer pointed out some FL aspects tat will be impossible to comply wit as the data is not available and never likely to be. (pupils' houses, dates of attendance, images, etc.). Unfortunately it looks as if its potential for Fl is thus limited. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 05:20, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
There are some Worcestershire images in Commons:Category:Lines family sketchbook which you might enjoy, or whose subjects you might be able to identify. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:32, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Dear Worcestershire Wikipedians: I am sure you are familiar with the village of Colwall; you may also know of the work of the English architect CFA Voysey. Curiously, one of Voysey's greatest creations 'Perrycroft' on the Malvern Hills is not mentioned on the Colwall page and gets only the briefest of mentions in the Voysey article. Please could I offer to do a definitive article about the house, which has recently been the subject of a careful restoration? CORREZE CORREZE ( talk) 09:36, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Something on my watchlist recently drew my attention to Evesham. A couple of years ago several of us spent some time improving and expanding this article, and on further review, I believe it is very close to GA. The review will of course reveal areas for further improvement, but what do we think about nominating it? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 02:38, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi
Just to let you know that I (with contributions from others) have been working on an article known as Evolution of Worcestershire County Boundaries, which could help clear up the 'Local Government' section on the Worcestershire page. Maybe some parts of the Worcestershire page dealing with historical boundary changes to the Local Government structures can be deleted in favour of a brief overview and concentration on the present local government structures of the county.
This page is already linked from the Worcestershire page and other associated pages.
Evolution of Worcestershire county boundaries
Bellow558 ( talk) 14:43, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
This September the UK is taking part for the first time in the international photography competition Wiki Loves Monuments. Participants will be invited to submit pictures of listed buildings of significant importance (grades I or grade II*), as recorded by English Heritage. The main external website for competitors can be found here, and you can leave a message there if you have queries about competing. Do please join in, and let people in your local area know of this excellent way in which both existing and new Wiki users can help improve the encyclopaedia by contributing photographs of local listed structures. What about organizing a local Wikimeet to attract new people?
In preparation for the start of the competition on 1st September there is still quite a lot of work to do, and we would like to ask for the help of members of this wikiproject. Your local and expert knowledge will be invaluable in ensuring that the lists of eligible buildings are up to date and correctly formatted. If you look at Listed buildings in the United Kingdom you will see how many structures are included. If you then follow the link to Listed buildings in England, you can get to the detailed lists for your area. Alternatively have a look at the WLM planning table. Can you help to ensure that the lists for your area are up to date and well presented?
Some of the lists have been semi-automatically generated from data provided by English Heritage. These use pre formatted templates (eg EH header) which will make it much easier for competition participants to upload their photographs to Commons as an automated process. Please don't change the template structure, as we need to ensure that the templates are properly compatible with the WLM standards that are in use worldwide. The format will allow a bot automatically to collect the information and to put it into the international Monuments Database.
The data still needs the attention of local editors:
For further information, please see Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 in the United Kingdom.
If you have any queries, please post them not below but on the Organizers' help page on Commons.
Anything you can do to help improve these lists will be much appreciated. The final deadline for cleaning up is 31st August.
-- MichaelMaggs ( talk) 15:02, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi there
I've been working (along with a few others) on the " Evolution of Worcestershire county boundaries" page for the last three years, hoping that it could assist in cleaning up some of the local government part of the main Worcestershire page. I'm just wondering if this page can be rated and added to the Worcestershire WikiProject at some point, as I feel it could add some value to the project.
Plus I've put it forward for consideration as a good article nominee...
Any help would be greatly appreciated! :)
Thanks
Bellow558 ( talk) 14:52, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej ( talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
As you might have seen in the Signpost last week, there's currently a drive to go through the million 19th century images released by the British Library last year, and identify all the maps, with a view to their being georeferenced by BL volunteers, and then uploaded to Commons early next year. After the first week, over eight thousand new maps have been identified, with 40% of the target books looked at -- see the status page for the latest figures, and more information.
A part that may specifically interest this project is
which currently shows pink templated links for 134 Flickr book pages still to be looked at. (Though there are lots of other parts of England, and indeed of the world, still to be looked through as well).
Any help looking through these would be very much appreciated -- as well as the maps (and ground plans) for tagging, you may well also find other interesting or useful non-map views that may be worth considering or uploading for articles on Worcestershire and elsewhere in the West Midlands. (If uploading, please use the ingestion template described here, which sets up some appropriate image templates and categories).
Thanks, Jheald ( talk) 21:32, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Participants of the Worcestershire project are invited to jpoin the discussion at Talk:Worcester#Requested move. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 16:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
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I have modified the
Template:WikiProject Worcestershire to include categories Category:Worcestershire articles needing attention and Category:Worcestershire articles needing infoboxes - this should automatically generate lists on those category pages; the default settings are 'no'. I wish I had known about this feature earlier, it will make the comments on the project's page at
special 'to do' largely redundant.
However, any articles in need of very serious/urgent treatment (e.g. articles that I or someone has tagged as
PROD,
AfD,
Merge, blatant
POV, or blatant
NOT, will be put on the priority to do lists on the project front page.--
Kudpung (
talk) 01:20, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Here's a banner that we can place on other editors'/contributors' talk pages (The editor's name will change automatically, just change the link to the article):
Hi WikiProject Worcestershire/Archive 1! An article you have been involved with has been tagged by its parent project as being in need of a little attention or further development. If you can help with these minor issues please see: Talk:Article namespace |
Here's a message for new member talk pages thanking them for joining the project:
Hello, WikiProject Worcestershire/Archive 1, and welcome to Wikiproject Worcestershire! Thank you for your generous offer to help contribute. We're sure your input will be much appreciated and you enjoy contributing here and being a Worcestershire Wikipedian If you have any questions, feel free to discuss anything on the project talk page, and be bold with your ideas! |
I'm in a bit of a quandry: As I work through all the Worcs stubs, I come across some that have been PRODed and AfD'd for lack of notability. The paradox is that it appears that the Wiki policy is to create a stub for every square metre of land that has a name.
Can someone come up with an official line on this please? Otherwise I'll have to start by creating a page for every 2-street housing estate in the Barnards Green & Poolbrook area! --
Kudpung (
talk) 15:28, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
This discussion may be of interest. Nev1 ( talk) 22:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm not especially focusing on the CPs, but they are a starting point because their parish council websites are the first source that will mention the villages and hamlets they group. I'll plod on through the 800 or so places on the list and tag any possible mergers based on common sense following the help we have been given. That won't mean that I personally want them merged - it just means we should look at them collectively and reach a consensus.-- Kudpung ( talk) 11:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)Writing about the smallest of settlements in the UK can be difficult due to the lack of source material, especially when compared with the country's major metropolises. Some of the UK's smallest settlements may form part of a civil parish or council ward. Country hamlets and villages may mention significant places that might not be considered part of the village, but which lie within the parish or ward. Hamlets that are within another parish or council ward could have their own articles, but if there is no more than a couple of paragraphs that could be said about the hamlet it may be best practice to merge the articles.
"I have a personal policy that English villages should be written up at the civil parish level and was preparing to redirect
Queenhill and
Holdfast, Worcestershire to Longdon. But I cannot find the official name for the parish. The council website is no help..."
RHaworth (
Talk |
contribs) 18:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
I still don't really care either way, but I do think the Guideline in the box above sums it up rather nicely - which may mean discussing individual occurrences rather than unilateral action. --
Kudpung (
talk) 21:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I see on the main Project page that the shortcut is given as "WP-Worcs", but the convention for these things is that the names are of the form "WP:ALLCAPSNAME". For example, we already have the likes of WP:CHES, WP:HERTS and WP:NOTTS. Any objection to making our own shortcut WP:WORCS? Loganberry ( Talk) 13:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Just thought I'd remind any editors who are members of Worcestershire County Libraries that a number of reference works are available free of charge via their membership, including the Times archive up to 1985. Most (but not all) of these works are also available to them from home via their library ticket numbers. They're available via this Worcestershire hub page. Other libraries may well have similar arrangements, but naturally the Worcs one seems most relevant to us! Loganberry ( Talk) 11:47, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm having a discussion with user Kudpung regarding the actions at Hindlip Hall that led up to the martyrdoms at Red Hill, Worcester and the later beatifications. User Kudpungs has deleted this part of the Halls story apart from a reference to a "gunpowder plot event" in the lede. (This certainly breaks WP policy). Its your county. You decide. But can someone offer arbitration as I can't remember the last time someone took referenced material out of a Start class article that had already been peer reviewed (by DYK admins); placed that material in their own Sandbox and left the remaining article as a stub. I have always tried to do the exact opposite. I'm told its to avoid duplication, but these events are not ducumented at all in the Gunpowder Plot articles. Anyone care to be Solomon? Victuallers ( talk) 14:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
All village articles should now have infoboxes. Jenuk1985 | Talk 23:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I thought the members of this project might like to see the breakdown of its articles by quality, ranging from stub-class to Good Articles.
Index ·
Statistics ·
Log
Worcestershire articles by quality and importance | |||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Quality | Importance | ||||||
Top | High | Mid | Low | NA | ??? | Total | |
FA | 1 | 1 | 4 | 6 | |||
FL | 1 | 1 | |||||
GA | 4 | 3 | 6 | 13 | |||
B | 2 | 5 | 14 | 12 | 33 | ||
C | 1 | 5 | 20 | 73 | 2 | 101 | |
Start | 15 | 51 | 388 | 34 | 488 | ||
Stub | 1 | 6 | 586 | 19 | 612 | ||
List | 3 | 7 | 29 | 39 | |||
NA | 1 | 1 | 23 | 339 | 364 | ||
Assessed | 3 | 35 | 103 | 1,122 | 339 | 55 | 1,657 |
Unassessed | 3 | 11 | 14 | ||||
Total | 3 | 35 | 103 | 1,125 | 339 | 66 | 1,671 |
WikiWork factors ( ?) | ω = 6,641 | Ω = 5.30 |
Anyone can rate articles up to B-class, but higher ratings such as
Good Articles require submitting the article to a review process.
Featured Articles are the best content that wikipedia has to offer, and GAs are just below that standard although still require good referencing and a broad coverage of the topic. FAs can be difficult and much more time consuming to write than Good Articles because of the
stricter criteria, but GAs are certainly something to aim for, so it's worth bearing this in mind when expanding an article. In short, the
Good Article critera are that an article should be:
More details on the criteria can be found here. Nev1 ( talk) 17:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
I guessed you'd say that! It is tough. Not least because a lot of the discussion was spread over several Malvern related talk pages (one of the main reasons why I called the Worcestershire project into being). I put those merge tags on the articles myself, and GyroMagician and I seem to have agreed on the best way to go for the time being. FYI: neither Great Malvern, nor Malvern, have formal boundaries as such, and neither of them is the name of a civil parish or a ward. Great Malvern is the traditional town center, but ward 6 of the Malvern District Council covers practically the entire area we locals (and most people) just call Malvern, and if the Town council wards cover the same area as MHDC ward 6, those are likely to be the demog stats. However, for the purpose of an encyclopedia, the major article has to be Malvern, Worcestershire, with Great Malvern pruned down to strict, basic, town centre essentials, and get the same treatment as, say, Malvern Link. The councilors seem to pick and choose whatever seems to siut them. Bottom line is that 'Great Malvern' could cover the entire parish for the council, but for the local population that would be a very inacurate surmise. The town centre ward is in fact called 'Priory' ! To get the full picture, you would need to read both articles closely and see how I have tried to expalin it all. There is still someobvious duplication of content in both articles, but as I said, I'm trying to shift most of it into the ' Malvern, Worcestershire' article, so that readers get the global picture.-- Kudpung ( talk) 14:48, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm about to embark on an attempt to clean up the school articles. If anyone has any advice for us on this please discuss it here.-- Kudpung ( talk) 07:09, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi! You might be interested in the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dines Green. Thank you. Qwfp ( talk) 12:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC) (Using {{ Please see}}) Qwfp ( talk) 12:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Right, for each village in Category:Villages in Worcestershire I have added at least one picture, and they have their own commons category (in many cases, there are a load more pictures in that category). I've found all the images on Geograph, however, the following articles are still missing images/commonscats:
Unless anyone beats me to it, I'll try and go out for a drive sometime in the week to fill in the gaps! Jeni ( talk)(Jenuk1985) 01:24, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
I am copying this to here as it is a general project issue and will receive more attention than on my personal talk page:
It is a bad idea to have parish navboxes, as they are designed to provide navigation between existing articles. In Worcestershire we have articles on settlements, not civil parishes. I have started work on improving List of civil parishes in Worcestershire which can be linked to from the settlement navboxes. When I am finished with the Redditch district articles, I'll be doing the same for the Malvern Hills district articles. WP:NAVBOX makes good reading in this regard. Thanks! Jeni ( talk)(Jenuk1985) 18:03, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
I am familiar with the [[WP:NAVBOX]: article, unfortunately, I have already created a similar navbox for Wychavon parishes (see Evesham - this has created a lot of red links that are indicative of settlements that may need their own articles, and will shortly be removed again from the page). There are articles in Wikipedia about various parishes, and there are suggestetions about what to do with one-line articles about extremely small settlements that are destined to become perma-stubs. These issues may require a consensus that may even need further discussion with parent projects, or a closer look at how other county projects are managing similar issues. Please see the discussions above on this talk page.-- Kudpung ( talk) 05:26, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
I've never seen a civil parish with "town council" in the name. The reason the website says "Malvern town council" is because the website is about and belongs to the town council which runs the civil parish. For example, Trafford's official name is "Metropolitan Borough of Trafford", but the website (the council's wesite) very prominently at the top of the page says Trafford Council. I think in Malvern's case, the official name of the civil parish is Malvern rather than Malvern Town Council. I've not touched the categories, so I have no conflict with Jenuk and even if I did we could always discuss it on the talk page; however since the council asserts it's right to being a town council I'd say that the ciivl parish is a town. Parishes can also be towns as demonstrated by Shaw and Crompton and Partington, Greater Manchester. There is a category for civil parishes which can be added aswell. Nev1 (talk) 20:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm not so sure that it is a good idea for the encyclopedia to have articles on both civil parishes and settlements when they are one and the same; that would appear as going for redundancy or duplication. Moreover, there is a Wiki policy that in the case of small settlements that constitute a parish, they should be grouped into an article about their parish - but I don't interpret this as meaning that every parish should have an article of its own. I think that's what the List articles are for.-- Kudpung ( talk) 13:10, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
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I thought we could do with an icon (after seeing the Manchester pawn), so I drew a quick pear. Wadayathink? Useful? We could add it to various banners, userboxes (I live in Worcs, not WP:Worcs), etc. The file is an SVG, so it rescales to whatever size you need. GyroMagician ( talk) 08:54, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Greetings. While the degree to which I will be able to consistently contribute to the Worcestershire project in the foreseeable future remains currently in doubt, I can at least offer some observations.
With regards the question of 'where to start' and which articles to prioritise first, we might consider starting with articles that in terms of category or taxonomy, encapsulate other articles. So, the Worcestershire article shows a map containing six districts. As a non-native, the first thing I found myself looking for was something giving me an overview of the map and its six districts, rather than have to go to each article separately, read up, then come back to the parent article. In general, it would be easier for me to read an overview of Worcestershire and the districts which it encompasses, and then follow links for more information. Obviously, the way we read articles in practice is that sometimes something specific catches our attention, and we pursue that link. But not always, and I'd suggest it's good for the reader to have a choice of reading the overview, or pursuing their own little direction.
Now while we wouldn't necessarily want to dominate the structure of the article with an elaboration on the districts, we could capitalise on this by creating sections for each district, and providing an overview paragraph for each section. In doing so, we could first pay attention to the district articles containing the least development. Of these, Bromsgrove (district) appears the least developed. So we could kill two birds with one stone. Create a section for Bomsgrove, and simultaneously work on the Bomsgrove article, tacking back and forth as necessary. Similarly with Wychavon. As for the other districts, a section would be similarly useful, but they are all better developed. So if we've got their leads roughly right, we can just pinch the gist of those for yor paragraphs, and so concentrate our energies on the lesser-developed articles.
A similar strategy could be employed for any of the other articles in the Worcestershire project. That is, for each of the least developed articles, go up taxonomically to the broadest parent article, develop sections within that article or those articles, and simultaneously flesh out the sections whilst developing the the undeveloped articles. Thats essentially the strategy I employed when developing the Captain R.T. Claridge article, launching into other articles, and contributing to their development, the process of which helped me further develop the Claridge article, either directly or indirectly. Indeed it was that very process which led me to Malvern Water, and thence to the Malvern project, the process of which was rewarding in itself, but which also helped me with the article which I was trying to develop.
Just food for thought. Nothing revolutionary, and probably nothing that hasn't already occurred to others, and which isn't already done to a greater or lesser degree. But it sometimes helps to formalise these thoughts. Regards Wotnow ( talk) 11:08, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello all! As some of you have probably noticed, I've been creating some pages for WikiProject Worcestershire. I've created a sidebar (top right, main project page), which we should put on all project pages to aid navigation. I've worked a bit on our templates, to try to create a bit of an identity. I added some extra tags to the main Worcestershire banner (needs-refs and needs-photo), but I'm not sure these are a good addition - they look neat in the banner, but they only show up in the Worcestershire categories, rather than globally (Great Malvern Station, for example, is also a member of WikiProject Trains, who might also help sorting out the references). I also (after brief discussion with Kudpung) removed the B-class checklist. I don't find it useful, but I don't have a strong feeling (Jeni, I just noticed that you added it - if you find it useful, maybe we should re-add).
I added a black pear to the userboxes for lives in/is from Worcestershire. It seems like a suitable mascot, and is within my limited drawing skills! I created a couple of templates to welcome new users, or suggest that an editor join WikiProject Worcestershire - please use them as we have the opportunity. I've also started a page that will be, but isn't yet, about how to reference articles. I imagine this page being about both about Wikipedia technicalities, and how to find sources. We have a few members who are pretty hot on this, so it would be good to share the knowledge - how you find historic texts, useful websites, sources within the county, etc. I'm hoping some of you will add to this page.
We've made a good start on the county (Jeni - I've only just realised how many infoboxes you've added!), especially now we have a GA, but we should keep the momentum going.
Waddayathink folks? GyroMagician ( talk) 18:57, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Gyro started the ball rolling by adding a sidebar to all the project pages for better navigation. The project now has a cleaner main page for a better overview of project aims and content, and a completely new To Do page of articles needing urgent attention, listed by kind of action required. Other tasks remain listed in the comments on the lists of every Worcs article by category as shown with their links on the project main page. These lists are far more comprehensive than those items listed on the WP:WORCS/ToDo page which is really only for the very urgent items. The lists enable editors to pick and choose what they are good at improving if they can't find anything on the urgent list that they can offer immediate help with.-- Kudpung ( talk) 14:32, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Did You Know that a lot of flap is made on Wiki about the
WP:DYK articles? Never having contributed to one, I'm not so sure about their importance. Nevertheless, some of them are quite interesting and many editors appear to feel that gathering laurels for creating them is one of the paths to adminship - excuse my typical cynicism ;)
None of the regular Worcs project members appear to have created one (I may be wrong), so does anyone think it would be a good idea to have some DYKs about Worcs? Maybe we can come up with some ideas. -- Kudpung ( talk) 15:32, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
There is great consternation and much debate (too, too much) about tens of thousands of
BLPs that have been left, unreferenced, in a poor state, abandoned by their creators, and left to rot in full public view in defiance of Wikpedia's strict rules about BLP. The problem of a clean up is obviously the sheer quantity of pages to be vetted and decisions taken whether to improve them or delete them. Everyone wants to talk about it but only a dedicated few, particularly those with the 'special' tools and whose judgement can only be opposed without further straining the resources of the server, are prepared to dig in and do something. What they do is still nly a drop in the ocean.
It's been suggested that perhaps some action could be organised at project level. I'm guilty of not even having got round to putting the WP:WORCS banner on the talk pages of all the cat 'people connected with Worcs', but I did create the task list at
All Worcs related articles about people by ABC. It might be a great gesture if the Worcs project could do its bit and check out any unreferenced BLPs, and either rescue them, or PROD them. with a message to the major contributors. If the PROD doesn't help after the seven days, we just delete them.
Anyone for/against, or simply ready to roll up their sleeves?
--
Kudpung (
talk) 16:40, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
That decision, if I have anything to do with it, would be to either improve and clean up the article without necessarily xpanding it, or PRODing it. A PROD is good because it we think, even vaguley, that the article is not worth keepiing, if the original author(s) don't come along and do something after 7 days, we can delete it as per:
I have booked my flight for 1 April to the UK and will be staying in Malvern again for one month. if any one has a wish list for photos or sources in books or the WRO please don(t hesitate to let me know on my talk page Acoupl of project members a re looking forward to meeting up somewhere in the county whiule I am there, and I sincerely hope that this time round we'll b able to make it happen.-- Kudpung ( talk) 02:50, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Hanbury, Worcestershire: if somebody has time, could they please look into this article and find out where the COPYVIO comes from. The whole thing is so smooth and detailed, I don't believe it to be from the hand of a Wikipedian.-- Kudpung ( talk) 03:26, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
What did I do to receive that newsletter? I haven't significantly contributed to any articles about Worcestershire, but I've probably made minor edits to them. Many users, including myself, don't appreciate unsolicited newsletter postings like that. Also, please put your signature somewhere in the message. Graham 87 15:11, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Please take note that I do not really want to receive comments on my talk page about the newsletter, or anything else to do with the Worcs project that is not of a very personal nature. I firmly believe in keeping discussion in the right places, where everyone who may be concerned, has a fair crack at being kept up to date. Watching watch lists is a practice that still needs to be adopted by many Wikipedians. Please respect, but do not be offended or agressive by this request. Comments made to my tp will be moved to here.-- Kudpung ( talk) 13:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Addiing the project banners to the talk pages of places took about 30 hours - not non-stop of course ;) The main thing is that once the banners are on and assessed at least as stub/low, then they will be picked up by bots that will make work lists of them for us. The other thing of course, is to check for categories.I don't know how she does it, but Jeni has a remarkable way of being able to infoboxes to articles at (it seems) a rate of several hundred an hour. Maybe we're missing out on a lot of automations. -- Kudpung ( talk) 04:56, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Because most of the WP:WORCS articles are about places, there is often a section on local politics. The usual header is 'Governance'.
It's been noticed that a lot of non notable polticians have been creeping into the pages. Just to remind WP:WORCS participants who are actively cleaning up articles, that they can and should delete any politicians' names who do not meet the the notability criteria at
WP:POLITICIAN. That generally means paractically anyone below the MP of a parliamentary constituencey, such as most town and parish councillors, with the exception perhaps, of the mayor of a city or large town if he is also notable for other things.--
Kudpung (
talk) 22:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
I have just come across this Talk:Hanbury, Worcestershire#COPYVIO?. Checking it seems that someone has been a busy beaver. Looking at the history of the editors I have listed and the articles they have edited I think that this needs to be discussed by a wider audience and as they are nearly all Worcestershire related this is an obvious place to post this message. -- PBS ( talk) 09:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
The article concerning Fort Royal Hill ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Royal_Hill ) plagiarizes blatantly from the article about the Battle of Worcester ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Worcester ). Paragraph 2 under the "History" section of the Fort Royal Hill article is clearly copied and pasted from Paragraph 5 under "The Battle" on Battle article.
OpenStreetMap is holding a mapping party in this area on 17 April 2010 to make a creative commons licensed map that may be used in Wikipedia articles.
Everyone is invited, no special skills are required and GPS equipment will be provided. See OpenStreetMap for more details. If you know of Wikipedia articles that need particular photos from this area, leave a message here or on the OpenStreetMap wiki |
This sounds like a very cool event. I won't be able to make it, but please turn up if you can. For more details, go to Mappa Mercia or see the Kidderminster talk page (despite what the banner says, leave any requests on the Kidderminster page, not here). Thanks to Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing) for originally posting! GyroMagician ( talk) 10:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
I've just started Worcestershire bus route 144, which has a long history, particularly in its past life of heading to Malvern. I was wondering if any of the guys from the Malvern area care to help me expand it? Jeni ( talk) 11:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
I was wondering whether anyone would be interested in helping to start a Herefordshire WikiProject. I got WikiProject Edinburgh off the ground a few months ago and am looking to start a few others so we can get better coverage of some of the UK's cities and counties. As Hereford has a long and interesting history I think it could be a useful collaboration. Any thoughts? TheRetroGuy ( talk) 12:14, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm probably goibng to be nominating a few shorter WP:WORCS articles for GA in the next few days. If anyone can make any last minute improvements or suggestions please go ahead. Comments on the article talk pages please:
-- Kudpung ( talk) 03:07, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I find myself more and more fighting vandalism on Worcs pages. This does not mean that there is necessarily more vandalism, but it means that I have all the Worcs pages on my watchlist and based on the edit summaries and user names/IPs, it is easy to identify what are probably vandalism and inappropriate edits.
This is using up a lot of my valuable content editing time. If would be great if project members could help look out for such disruptions. Some pages, particularly schools and
Redditch are more susceptible to attack than others. Any pages you visit will automatically be added to your watchlists. If you find any damage, you can use any of the automated and semi-automated tools such as
WP:Friendly and
WP:Twinkle, but as those tools do not always fully complete those tasks, do please also remember to add a warning or a vandal-welcome on the culprit's page. In so doing, it will help to get regular miscreants blocked. Thanks.--
Kudpung (
talk) 02:22, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
CONGRATULATIONS! - and thanks to everyone who worked so hard over the past few weeks to get Malvern water to GA. -- Kudpung ( talk) 23:38, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
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The 20o1 UK census website has moved and the links to it in many of our pages are returning a 404. Detailed demographic info is now available for districts, towns and neighbourhoods on this page at Worcs County Council: http://c/cms/community-and-living/research-and-intelligence/census-and-where-i-live/2001-census/area-profiles.aspx -- Kudpung ( talk) 03:13, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm still coming across a lot of Worcs related pages without the template on the talk pages. (This comes also from a massive stint I've been doing recently on NPP and various BLP backlogs). We can track some, but not all of them by taking an occasional look at the bot generated lists of Worcs related stubs and Worcs related cats.-- Kudpung ( talk) 06:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I've done some tweaks lately to the Evesham page. Surprisingly, it's looking quite good already and it could be a fairly easy nom for GA. Anyone interested in checking it over? -- Kudpung ( talk) 06:36, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I've just notice that Malvern College is rated as high importance, while Malvern Water is only of Mid importance. Can this be so? A toff's school is more important than Nature's own million-year-old water clarification plant? (kidding, KIDDING!). But still, given my apple and your orange, which is more important? GyroMagician ( talk) 00:25, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
It has been suggested that the name of the Malvern, Worcestershire page be moved to Malvern, to bring it in line with Wikipedia policy at WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Everyone is welcome to express their opinion.-- Kudpung ( talk) 13:21, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
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I've done quite a lot of work on the Dodford, Worcestershire page. It would be great if someone could check it, and and perhaps review the quality / importance. scale I think it's quite important from a national social history POV. Jim Killock (talk) 12:18, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- is one of the largest (if not the largest) towns in the county and its Wikipedia article is a target for frequent spam and vandalism. Good faith edits from anon users also occasionally need correcting or tweaking. Please let's keep Redditch on our watchlists and intervene as necessary. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 01:58, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
I posed that over three and a half years ago and for some reason Redditch is still a major target for disruptive editing. It would be good if participants in the Worcs project could keep it on their watchlists. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 02:38, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
Malvern, Worcestershire: A peer review has been requested here prior to eventual nomination for FA. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 07:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
As of July 2011 there are around 70 unassessed Worcestershire articles listed at Category:Unassessed Worcestershire articles. If anyone has a moment, it would be good to have a look at these. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 15:35, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Worcestershire/Article alerts has been created; generating Article alerts for this WikiProject. Timrollpickering ( talk) 20:23, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
List of Old Malvernians has been submitted for peer review. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 04:29, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
List of Old Malvernians has now been peer reviewed. The reviewer pointed out some FL aspects tat will be impossible to comply wit as the data is not available and never likely to be. (pupils' houses, dates of attendance, images, etc.). Unfortunately it looks as if its potential for Fl is thus limited. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 05:20, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
There are some Worcestershire images in Commons:Category:Lines family sketchbook which you might enjoy, or whose subjects you might be able to identify. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:32, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Dear Worcestershire Wikipedians: I am sure you are familiar with the village of Colwall; you may also know of the work of the English architect CFA Voysey. Curiously, one of Voysey's greatest creations 'Perrycroft' on the Malvern Hills is not mentioned on the Colwall page and gets only the briefest of mentions in the Voysey article. Please could I offer to do a definitive article about the house, which has recently been the subject of a careful restoration? CORREZE CORREZE ( talk) 09:36, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Something on my watchlist recently drew my attention to Evesham. A couple of years ago several of us spent some time improving and expanding this article, and on further review, I believe it is very close to GA. The review will of course reveal areas for further improvement, but what do we think about nominating it? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 02:38, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi
Just to let you know that I (with contributions from others) have been working on an article known as Evolution of Worcestershire County Boundaries, which could help clear up the 'Local Government' section on the Worcestershire page. Maybe some parts of the Worcestershire page dealing with historical boundary changes to the Local Government structures can be deleted in favour of a brief overview and concentration on the present local government structures of the county.
This page is already linked from the Worcestershire page and other associated pages.
Evolution of Worcestershire county boundaries
Bellow558 ( talk) 14:43, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
This September the UK is taking part for the first time in the international photography competition Wiki Loves Monuments. Participants will be invited to submit pictures of listed buildings of significant importance (grades I or grade II*), as recorded by English Heritage. The main external website for competitors can be found here, and you can leave a message there if you have queries about competing. Do please join in, and let people in your local area know of this excellent way in which both existing and new Wiki users can help improve the encyclopaedia by contributing photographs of local listed structures. What about organizing a local Wikimeet to attract new people?
In preparation for the start of the competition on 1st September there is still quite a lot of work to do, and we would like to ask for the help of members of this wikiproject. Your local and expert knowledge will be invaluable in ensuring that the lists of eligible buildings are up to date and correctly formatted. If you look at Listed buildings in the United Kingdom you will see how many structures are included. If you then follow the link to Listed buildings in England, you can get to the detailed lists for your area. Alternatively have a look at the WLM planning table. Can you help to ensure that the lists for your area are up to date and well presented?
Some of the lists have been semi-automatically generated from data provided by English Heritage. These use pre formatted templates (eg EH header) which will make it much easier for competition participants to upload their photographs to Commons as an automated process. Please don't change the template structure, as we need to ensure that the templates are properly compatible with the WLM standards that are in use worldwide. The format will allow a bot automatically to collect the information and to put it into the international Monuments Database.
The data still needs the attention of local editors:
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Anything you can do to help improve these lists will be much appreciated. The final deadline for cleaning up is 31st August.
-- MichaelMaggs ( talk) 15:02, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi there
I've been working (along with a few others) on the " Evolution of Worcestershire county boundaries" page for the last three years, hoping that it could assist in cleaning up some of the local government part of the main Worcestershire page. I'm just wondering if this page can be rated and added to the Worcestershire WikiProject at some point, as I feel it could add some value to the project.
Plus I've put it forward for consideration as a good article nominee...
Any help would be greatly appreciated! :)
Thanks
Bellow558 ( talk) 14:52, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej ( talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
As you might have seen in the Signpost last week, there's currently a drive to go through the million 19th century images released by the British Library last year, and identify all the maps, with a view to their being georeferenced by BL volunteers, and then uploaded to Commons early next year. After the first week, over eight thousand new maps have been identified, with 40% of the target books looked at -- see the status page for the latest figures, and more information.
A part that may specifically interest this project is
which currently shows pink templated links for 134 Flickr book pages still to be looked at. (Though there are lots of other parts of England, and indeed of the world, still to be looked through as well).
Any help looking through these would be very much appreciated -- as well as the maps (and ground plans) for tagging, you may well also find other interesting or useful non-map views that may be worth considering or uploading for articles on Worcestershire and elsewhere in the West Midlands. (If uploading, please use the ingestion template described here, which sets up some appropriate image templates and categories).
Thanks, Jheald ( talk) 21:32, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Participants of the Worcestershire project are invited to jpoin the discussion at Talk:Worcester#Requested move. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 16:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)