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Possibly of interest: What If Our Textbooks Were Black?, a BBC radio series "celebrating Black cultural figures who should be more central to history". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:22, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi, folk, you may remember me as making a lot of Venezuelan WIR biographies. I now have another challenge, and I thought I'd bring it here. In reviving the Catalan-speaking WP, a couple of us editors have been focused on the 1000 vital Catalan articles. It's the homing list for the project, and has a lot of biographies on it - not so many of these are women (also, whenever you see "Joan", that's a male Catalan name, and sometimes "Maria" is, too!). Only one of these women bios is in red ( ca:Maria Antònia Salvà i Ripoll), but I think this suggests the greater problem that there's a disparity here. If anyone wants to help find more Catalan women and create articles on them, that would be great! Kingsif ( talk) 03:52, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
I've just created an article for Emma Hauck, whose love letters to her husband, written from a psychiatric hospital, became posthumously famous. Edits welcome! ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 16:36, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
This year's British New Year Honours list has a majority of women (51%), most of whom are not yet covered on Wikipedia. Those who have received the more important distinctions deserve to be covered without too much delay.-- Ipigott ( talk) 08:40, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
The current edition of Signpost includes comments from Jess Wade in " Why we need to keep talking about Wikipedia's gender gap". I think it is worth emphasizing her concluding paragraph:
I don't know anything about this woman, but I'm sure she was more than her lede, which says nothing about her besides she was the wife of so-and-so and the mother of so-and-so: "Marvella Belle Hern Bayh (February 14, 1933 – April 24, 1979)[1] was the wife of Indiana Senator Birch Bayh and the mother of former Indiana Senator Birch Evans Bayh III (Evan)." Anyone up for fixing this, please do! I don't have any access to sources out here in my beloved potatoland that would help write a better lede. - Yupik ( talk) 00:21, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Remember that Vox article that said "Finland’s new parliament is dominated by women under 35"? I've finished the entire Parliament that was elected at the election, including all the female MPs! What do you think? ミラ P 04:12, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
One of our priorities for January is Women in the public domain, especially those entering Wikipedia's PD on 1 January. A number of useful Wikidata searches are included on the meetup page but it would be really useful to have a normal Wikidata redlist, if it is possible to put one together. Can anyone help out?-- Ipigott ( talk) 08:58, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
In addition to all the new articles created, there are other things we could toast at the end of the year. What can you think of?! For example, did you know: -- Rosiestep ( talk) 17:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
I just noticed a question on the Meetup #147 (Women from the Arab world) talkpage dated December 8th, and I responded. This makes me wonder how many other questions and/or comments we might be missing because we don't keep as close an eye on event talkpages as we do here. What do you think about creating a template to be used specifically for event talkpages requesting that questions/comments be made on this (main) WiR talkpage instead of the individual event talkpages? Perhaps something like: -- Rosiestep ( talk) 21:35, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
This event talkpage may not be closely monitored. So instead of writing a question or comment here, please consider doing so on the main Women in Red talkpage instead. Thank you, and we apologize for any inconvenience.
Hello. I noticed that there's no editathon banners for #1day1woman 2020 and the 2020 sports initiative. I was wondering why this was the case. Thanks! -- MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 01:42, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi everyone -- I recently postponed G13 deletion on this stale draft from 2018; the creator appears inactive. The subject is a lawyer who seems likely to be notable. Unfortunately I don't have time to work on it right now, is anyone here interested in taking it over? Cheers, Espresso Addict ( talk) 03:14, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Came across both of these while I was doing newpage patrol: Draft:Urszula Chowaniec and Draft:Chiara Frugoni. If anyone would like to help shepherd them through, or otherwise take a look at them? Neither is really in my wheelhouse, I'm afraid. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 18:48, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Are you wondering how you can help plan next month's activities? Grab a cup of your favorite beverage and join us at the Virtual Ideas Cafe! There, you can:
It's a new year and a new decade and we're open to new ideas on what to do and how to do it. See you there! -- Rosiestep ( talk) 18:01, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Following links from the post above I ended up looking for the first time at WP:Vital articles. This is "Vital articles, level 3", 1000 English Wikipedia articles which should all be brought up to FA status eventually. There are no biographies at levels 1 or 2 (10 and 100 articles). There are 129 biographies, of which I can identify 11 as female. I wonder who else ought to be included? Here below is the list (I copied the list and removed the males, leaving the headings which show the totals adding up to 129). Not within the scope of WiR, but an interesting indication of the background in which we are working. If you have any suggestions for other names which should be swapped in (remember it's a list of 1000 articles), the talk page is the place, and its "Frequently asked questions" gives useful background. There is a current proposal that Nefertiti should replace Hatshepsut, which wouldn't change the male:female split. Pam D 11:38, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Politicians and leaders (27 articles)Religious figures (9 articles)Explorers (8 articles)Businesspeople (1 article) |
Philosophers and social scientists (16 articles)Writers (21 articles)Artists (8 articles) |
Inventors and scientists (21 articles)Mathematicians (9 articles)Composers and musicians (7 articles)Filmmakers (2 articles)
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Decisions are made by those who show up. I've done a little work on horse articles in the vital articles area, the first thing is to look at the existing sections to see if the people listed there are a) appropriate, and b) complete. There is room in a lot of areas to upgrade the representation of women, particularly in the sciences, where there's a lot of "low-hanging fruit." (For example, Ada Lovelace is not listed at the level 3. That's an easy one!). I think the thing to do is to review the list carefully, select a few relatively clear cases to either add or swap out, and establish credibility as a group who understands the area and doesn't make frivolous nominations. Also, the Hatshepsut/Nefertiti issue is a perfect example of where we can monitor and alert folks on this page of things of interest. Montanabw (talk) 16:56, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
I wanted to ask here if anyone wants to help improve the draft I created on Peggy Siegal. She is a publicist for many major media organizations who organizes small private events, mostly in Manhattan, with artists, filmakers, publishers, etc. She also has connections to Jeffrey Epstein.— Naddruf ( talk ~ contribs) 06:56, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
I've recently finished a project to write bios for (nearly) all Female New Zealand professors. The work has been written up at https://sciblogs.co.nz/guestwork/2019/12/18/how-i-came-to-be-writing-wikipedia-biographies-for-female-new-zealand-professors/ https://sciblogs.co.nz/guestwork/2019/12/19/what-to-put-in-a-wikipedia-biography-and-what-gets-left-out/ https://sciblogs.co.nz/guestwork/2019/12/20/15-years-of-editing-wikipedia/ to coincide with my 15th anniversary. Stuartyeates ( talk) 01:05, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi everyone, I recently went to Winnipeg where I visited the Canadian Museum for Human Rights. I have been in contact with the Head of Collections who said if there was specific images we are interested in, she would be happy to work with us to discuss use permission requirements. So, if anyone has had their eye on an image we can work on getting it added to Wiki. HickoryOughtShirt?4 ( talk) 06:06, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nike Doggart
I nominated this article as part of a walled garden that was set-up by a sockfarm. The socks are now blocked, but the borderline notability of this particular scientist/conservationist is such that I'm wondering whether any participants here might be able to salvage the article using reliable sources (perhaps the BBC?).
jps ( talk) 18:31, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
I agree, but it's hard for me to see what the standards should be for biographies considering this kind of systemic bias. We can understand the lack of sources because someone has labored in obscurity, but we also are under an obligation to produce content that conforms to the standards that Wikipedia set up to avoid problems that can arise when writing articles about obscure subjects. Right now, the sources in the article are pretty mediocre at best. Indications are that there may be some better ones, but I've been less than thrilled with the options hinted at. jps ( talk) 22:16, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
I would like more information on how to post an article. It is actually about my wife. I am U.S. born but she is from Kathmandu Nepal and we together own a karate school in New Mexico. She competes Nationally in the Brown Belt Womens division and recently won world Grand Champion in kata and also finished National points champion in both kata and fighting with the United States Association of Martial Artists. I thought her being a Nepalese citizen yet winning a world title in America, and also her back story on paying her own way to America and going to college here, and her journey could be an inspiration to other women that are also foreign born and or minorities, or just women, that posting facts about someone like my wife could show that any goal can be achieved, regardless of where you come from, or what roadblocks are in your way. Let me know and I will write something up for approval, editing, and submission , if that's possible Dbossong6193 ( talk) 17:46, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
I have been working on an article about the San Francisco Bay Area poet Lucille Lang Day, and it has been rejected in part because "The literary awards she has won are local/state level awards." That is not true; for instance, the Blue Light Poetry Prize, and the Josephine Miles Literary Award is for "U.S. multicultural writers" (not just Bay Area writers). I'm sincerely interested in creating more articles about women writers, but this has been frustrating because I feel the reviewer did not really look into the specifics of these awards before dismissing the entire article. Of course, if there is anything else I can add that might help, I would be more than willing to do that! If someone in this group could look over the draft and give me some more constructive feedback, I'd be extremely appreciative. loudfan ( talk) 22:36, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Another interesting article by Kirsten Menger-Anderson: The Sum of What? On Gender, Visibility, and Wikipedia, Undark, 2 January 2020.-- Ipigott ( talk) 13:03, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
When creation Nicole Van Goethem, I noticed in the links to this article that WiR seems to have some duplicate lists. Most obviously Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Screenwriters and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Screenwriter, which are either identical or extremely close; but also Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Animators and cartoonists, which despite its more expansive title seems to be a subset of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Cartoonists.
It seems overkill to have two identical lists, but I'll leave it to you to decide which one to keep and which one to redirect (assuming there isn't a good reason to keep both). Fram ( talk) 13:18, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Please put this in your watch list: Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Sexuality and gender. I am becoming convinced that there is a concerted effort to delete pages related to anything sexual, porn, genderqueer, gay, or anything that goes against conservative values. --- C& C ( Coffeeandcrumbs) 17:58, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Please see this. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 17:52, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
I just moved Katie Bishop to Draft:Katie Bishop to save it from speedy, it's about a North American writer, who may or may not be notable. But there is also an English author of the same name who seems to be definitely notable, and an editor at OUP, hard to say.
All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough,
22:06, 12 January 2020 (UTC).
This came to my attention a couple days ago, but I've been busy. I was planning on PRODing the article as not meeting Wikipedia:Notability_(academics) (the only academic notability criterion I can see that has been meant is perhaps #3, elected as a member of prestigous scholarly society, although the Gerontological Society of America is less prestigous than the examples given in the academic notability guidelines). But the subject of the article has now made an edit request and has been met with more Wikipedia bureaucracy, and I'm not sure a PROD deletion is sufficient at this point to undo her negative impression of Wikipedia.
The subject of the article made some edits, and was reverted and blocked for making COI edits. She succesfully appealed the block, and then requested some edits, and got some bureacratic boilerplate requesting a more precise edit request (although it is pretty clear what remedies she would prefer from her request). She just made one further edit updating her employer. As I understand it, her first preference would be to have the article deleted.
There has been very poor treatment of the subject of a Wikipedia article, and this would rightfully be a PR black eye for Wikipedia if it made it into the media. Plantdrew ( talk) 03:29, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
@ Plantdrew: Thanks for bringing this up here. I'd meant to do so myself earlier - Dr. Löckenhoff contacted me on my talk page a couple of days ago to ask about a resolution - but I'm afraid I let it fall through the cracks. Regardless, I'd like to get some WIR input on this. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 04:54, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
What I find shocking is the response at Talk:Corinna Löckenhoff which refuses to re-implement the changes she had requested but throws down a bureaucratic response insisting that any proposed changes be presented in a particular form. It is clear what changes she is requesting, and a kinder response would have been to check that the content she proposed was sourced to the references and implement those changes. Pam D 00:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Dr. Löckenhoff has withdrawn her deletion request. XOR'easter ( talk) 05:20, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Came across this the other day while looking for information on Mary Brown Channel, the first licensed woman architect in Virginia. (Someone else on my to-create list, I find.) I never even realized it existed, yet it seems to be quite extensive, containing even a biographical database. Not sure as to the notability of all of the architects contained therein, but there's surely some fodder for future discussion/article creation. The link is here: https://iawadb.lib.vt.edu/index.php. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 15:02, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi all. I am very impressed with this fantastic WikiProject. I would like to list this WikiProject that I am creating at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council; I am compiling a list of active WikiProjects, and will be sure of course to include this one.
I was wondering, might it be possible to give me one or two people whom I could include as contacts for this WikiProject? I did find Megalibrarygirl ( talk · contribs) on one project page, as someone who is a resource to others here. Is there anyone else whom I can ask? -- Sm8900 ( talk) 03:00, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Biografer ( talk · contribs) has been blocked as a sockpuppet; see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mishae/Archive. Biografer did not specifically concentrate on biographies of women, but created many biographies, among them many women. The discussion above about Corinna Löckenhoff involves one of these.
It seems possible to me that one consequence of this block is that the creations that were not significantly edited by others could be deleted under WP:CSD#G5, so it might be worthwhile to look through Biografer's page creations and making sure the ones on women are safe from this type of deletion.
It's probably worthwhile checking them over anyway; as it says on the SPI, many of Biografer's creations were inaccurate (e.g. one that I just checked myself, Lucija Čok, said she received an honor while serving as minister of education, but actually the source said it was while she was doing something else and was given for her earlier work as minister) or in some cases involved close paraphrasing. And in the case of Corinna Löckenhoff, it seems likely that the trigger for the deletion request was the subject's reaction to inaccuracies introduced by Biografer. — David Eppstein ( talk) 01:20, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Scraping the list, as a start here are the dozen most recently created (now deleted) and the descriptions I found by clicking on their log entries:
Name | Description | Languages | Wikidata |
Emily Agree | sociologist | Q81771862 | |
Tanja Schultz | professor of computer science at the University of Bremen. | not found on Wikidata | |
Sandra Irving | birth_place = Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada | Q80726416 | |
Sonia Aissa | Professor of Telecommunications at the Institut national de la recherche scientifique, Université du Québec. | Q61304644 | |
Amy Schmitz | Elwood L. Thomas Missouri Endowed Professor of Law at the University of Missouri School of Law | Q80124736 | |
Silvia Fresco | publisher=American College of Surgeons | not found on Wikidata | |
Margaret Gatz | professor of psychology, gerontology and preventive healthcare at the USC Davis School of Gerontology and at the USC Dor. | Q57015022 | |
Marcy S. Friedman | Friedman graduated with B.A. (magna cum laude) from Smith College in 1972 and two | Q76756612 | |
Geraldine Downey | Vice Provost for Diversity Initiatives and Robert Johnston Niven Professor of Humane Letters in Psychology at the Department of Psych | Q76485855 | |
Rebecca S. Eisenberg | Robert and Barbara Luciano Professor of Law at the University of Michigan Law School. Eisenberg graduated from Stanford Un. | Q76384046 | |
Laura Crotty Alexander | associate professor of medicine at the University of California, San Diego. | Q76202294 | |
Abigail Marsh | associate professor in the Department of Psychology and the Interdisciplinary Program in Neuroscience at Georgetown University. | Q76490837 |
I'm happy to continue with the other 54 that I easily identified as female. Also, it might be an idea if I added their Wikidata Q numbers. Oronsay ( talk) 13:47, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Here are more deleted articles, covering the creations from 2019 (there are many more from the previous two years). First some that are clearly notable:
Notability not as clear but some of these are likely notable:
— David Eppstein ( talk) 01:17, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
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Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 01:45, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
This article was a stub when I created it, I've expanded it since then. I think that this would probably be a start-class article now, but I'd like to have another editor's input to know if it actually is or not. Clovermoss (talk) 21:37, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
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Possibly of interest: What If Our Textbooks Were Black?, a BBC radio series "celebrating Black cultural figures who should be more central to history". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:22, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi, folk, you may remember me as making a lot of Venezuelan WIR biographies. I now have another challenge, and I thought I'd bring it here. In reviving the Catalan-speaking WP, a couple of us editors have been focused on the 1000 vital Catalan articles. It's the homing list for the project, and has a lot of biographies on it - not so many of these are women (also, whenever you see "Joan", that's a male Catalan name, and sometimes "Maria" is, too!). Only one of these women bios is in red ( ca:Maria Antònia Salvà i Ripoll), but I think this suggests the greater problem that there's a disparity here. If anyone wants to help find more Catalan women and create articles on them, that would be great! Kingsif ( talk) 03:52, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
I've just created an article for Emma Hauck, whose love letters to her husband, written from a psychiatric hospital, became posthumously famous. Edits welcome! ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 16:36, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
This year's British New Year Honours list has a majority of women (51%), most of whom are not yet covered on Wikipedia. Those who have received the more important distinctions deserve to be covered without too much delay.-- Ipigott ( talk) 08:40, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
The current edition of Signpost includes comments from Jess Wade in " Why we need to keep talking about Wikipedia's gender gap". I think it is worth emphasizing her concluding paragraph:
I don't know anything about this woman, but I'm sure she was more than her lede, which says nothing about her besides she was the wife of so-and-so and the mother of so-and-so: "Marvella Belle Hern Bayh (February 14, 1933 – April 24, 1979)[1] was the wife of Indiana Senator Birch Bayh and the mother of former Indiana Senator Birch Evans Bayh III (Evan)." Anyone up for fixing this, please do! I don't have any access to sources out here in my beloved potatoland that would help write a better lede. - Yupik ( talk) 00:21, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Remember that Vox article that said "Finland’s new parliament is dominated by women under 35"? I've finished the entire Parliament that was elected at the election, including all the female MPs! What do you think? ミラ P 04:12, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
One of our priorities for January is Women in the public domain, especially those entering Wikipedia's PD on 1 January. A number of useful Wikidata searches are included on the meetup page but it would be really useful to have a normal Wikidata redlist, if it is possible to put one together. Can anyone help out?-- Ipigott ( talk) 08:58, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
In addition to all the new articles created, there are other things we could toast at the end of the year. What can you think of?! For example, did you know: -- Rosiestep ( talk) 17:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
I just noticed a question on the Meetup #147 (Women from the Arab world) talkpage dated December 8th, and I responded. This makes me wonder how many other questions and/or comments we might be missing because we don't keep as close an eye on event talkpages as we do here. What do you think about creating a template to be used specifically for event talkpages requesting that questions/comments be made on this (main) WiR talkpage instead of the individual event talkpages? Perhaps something like: -- Rosiestep ( talk) 21:35, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
This event talkpage may not be closely monitored. So instead of writing a question or comment here, please consider doing so on the main Women in Red talkpage instead. Thank you, and we apologize for any inconvenience.
Hello. I noticed that there's no editathon banners for #1day1woman 2020 and the 2020 sports initiative. I was wondering why this was the case. Thanks! -- MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 01:42, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi everyone -- I recently postponed G13 deletion on this stale draft from 2018; the creator appears inactive. The subject is a lawyer who seems likely to be notable. Unfortunately I don't have time to work on it right now, is anyone here interested in taking it over? Cheers, Espresso Addict ( talk) 03:14, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Came across both of these while I was doing newpage patrol: Draft:Urszula Chowaniec and Draft:Chiara Frugoni. If anyone would like to help shepherd them through, or otherwise take a look at them? Neither is really in my wheelhouse, I'm afraid. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 18:48, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Are you wondering how you can help plan next month's activities? Grab a cup of your favorite beverage and join us at the Virtual Ideas Cafe! There, you can:
It's a new year and a new decade and we're open to new ideas on what to do and how to do it. See you there! -- Rosiestep ( talk) 18:01, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Following links from the post above I ended up looking for the first time at WP:Vital articles. This is "Vital articles, level 3", 1000 English Wikipedia articles which should all be brought up to FA status eventually. There are no biographies at levels 1 or 2 (10 and 100 articles). There are 129 biographies, of which I can identify 11 as female. I wonder who else ought to be included? Here below is the list (I copied the list and removed the males, leaving the headings which show the totals adding up to 129). Not within the scope of WiR, but an interesting indication of the background in which we are working. If you have any suggestions for other names which should be swapped in (remember it's a list of 1000 articles), the talk page is the place, and its "Frequently asked questions" gives useful background. There is a current proposal that Nefertiti should replace Hatshepsut, which wouldn't change the male:female split. Pam D 11:38, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Politicians and leaders (27 articles)Religious figures (9 articles)Explorers (8 articles)Businesspeople (1 article) |
Philosophers and social scientists (16 articles)Writers (21 articles)Artists (8 articles) |
Inventors and scientists (21 articles)Mathematicians (9 articles)Composers and musicians (7 articles)Filmmakers (2 articles)
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Decisions are made by those who show up. I've done a little work on horse articles in the vital articles area, the first thing is to look at the existing sections to see if the people listed there are a) appropriate, and b) complete. There is room in a lot of areas to upgrade the representation of women, particularly in the sciences, where there's a lot of "low-hanging fruit." (For example, Ada Lovelace is not listed at the level 3. That's an easy one!). I think the thing to do is to review the list carefully, select a few relatively clear cases to either add or swap out, and establish credibility as a group who understands the area and doesn't make frivolous nominations. Also, the Hatshepsut/Nefertiti issue is a perfect example of where we can monitor and alert folks on this page of things of interest. Montanabw (talk) 16:56, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
I wanted to ask here if anyone wants to help improve the draft I created on Peggy Siegal. She is a publicist for many major media organizations who organizes small private events, mostly in Manhattan, with artists, filmakers, publishers, etc. She also has connections to Jeffrey Epstein.— Naddruf ( talk ~ contribs) 06:56, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
I've recently finished a project to write bios for (nearly) all Female New Zealand professors. The work has been written up at https://sciblogs.co.nz/guestwork/2019/12/18/how-i-came-to-be-writing-wikipedia-biographies-for-female-new-zealand-professors/ https://sciblogs.co.nz/guestwork/2019/12/19/what-to-put-in-a-wikipedia-biography-and-what-gets-left-out/ https://sciblogs.co.nz/guestwork/2019/12/20/15-years-of-editing-wikipedia/ to coincide with my 15th anniversary. Stuartyeates ( talk) 01:05, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi everyone, I recently went to Winnipeg where I visited the Canadian Museum for Human Rights. I have been in contact with the Head of Collections who said if there was specific images we are interested in, she would be happy to work with us to discuss use permission requirements. So, if anyone has had their eye on an image we can work on getting it added to Wiki. HickoryOughtShirt?4 ( talk) 06:06, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nike Doggart
I nominated this article as part of a walled garden that was set-up by a sockfarm. The socks are now blocked, but the borderline notability of this particular scientist/conservationist is such that I'm wondering whether any participants here might be able to salvage the article using reliable sources (perhaps the BBC?).
jps ( talk) 18:31, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
I agree, but it's hard for me to see what the standards should be for biographies considering this kind of systemic bias. We can understand the lack of sources because someone has labored in obscurity, but we also are under an obligation to produce content that conforms to the standards that Wikipedia set up to avoid problems that can arise when writing articles about obscure subjects. Right now, the sources in the article are pretty mediocre at best. Indications are that there may be some better ones, but I've been less than thrilled with the options hinted at. jps ( talk) 22:16, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
I would like more information on how to post an article. It is actually about my wife. I am U.S. born but she is from Kathmandu Nepal and we together own a karate school in New Mexico. She competes Nationally in the Brown Belt Womens division and recently won world Grand Champion in kata and also finished National points champion in both kata and fighting with the United States Association of Martial Artists. I thought her being a Nepalese citizen yet winning a world title in America, and also her back story on paying her own way to America and going to college here, and her journey could be an inspiration to other women that are also foreign born and or minorities, or just women, that posting facts about someone like my wife could show that any goal can be achieved, regardless of where you come from, or what roadblocks are in your way. Let me know and I will write something up for approval, editing, and submission , if that's possible Dbossong6193 ( talk) 17:46, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
I have been working on an article about the San Francisco Bay Area poet Lucille Lang Day, and it has been rejected in part because "The literary awards she has won are local/state level awards." That is not true; for instance, the Blue Light Poetry Prize, and the Josephine Miles Literary Award is for "U.S. multicultural writers" (not just Bay Area writers). I'm sincerely interested in creating more articles about women writers, but this has been frustrating because I feel the reviewer did not really look into the specifics of these awards before dismissing the entire article. Of course, if there is anything else I can add that might help, I would be more than willing to do that! If someone in this group could look over the draft and give me some more constructive feedback, I'd be extremely appreciative. loudfan ( talk) 22:36, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Another interesting article by Kirsten Menger-Anderson: The Sum of What? On Gender, Visibility, and Wikipedia, Undark, 2 January 2020.-- Ipigott ( talk) 13:03, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
When creation Nicole Van Goethem, I noticed in the links to this article that WiR seems to have some duplicate lists. Most obviously Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Screenwriters and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Screenwriter, which are either identical or extremely close; but also Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Animators and cartoonists, which despite its more expansive title seems to be a subset of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Cartoonists.
It seems overkill to have two identical lists, but I'll leave it to you to decide which one to keep and which one to redirect (assuming there isn't a good reason to keep both). Fram ( talk) 13:18, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Please put this in your watch list: Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Sexuality and gender. I am becoming convinced that there is a concerted effort to delete pages related to anything sexual, porn, genderqueer, gay, or anything that goes against conservative values. --- C& C ( Coffeeandcrumbs) 17:58, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Please see this. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 17:52, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
I just moved Katie Bishop to Draft:Katie Bishop to save it from speedy, it's about a North American writer, who may or may not be notable. But there is also an English author of the same name who seems to be definitely notable, and an editor at OUP, hard to say.
All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough,
22:06, 12 January 2020 (UTC).
This came to my attention a couple days ago, but I've been busy. I was planning on PRODing the article as not meeting Wikipedia:Notability_(academics) (the only academic notability criterion I can see that has been meant is perhaps #3, elected as a member of prestigous scholarly society, although the Gerontological Society of America is less prestigous than the examples given in the academic notability guidelines). But the subject of the article has now made an edit request and has been met with more Wikipedia bureaucracy, and I'm not sure a PROD deletion is sufficient at this point to undo her negative impression of Wikipedia.
The subject of the article made some edits, and was reverted and blocked for making COI edits. She succesfully appealed the block, and then requested some edits, and got some bureacratic boilerplate requesting a more precise edit request (although it is pretty clear what remedies she would prefer from her request). She just made one further edit updating her employer. As I understand it, her first preference would be to have the article deleted.
There has been very poor treatment of the subject of a Wikipedia article, and this would rightfully be a PR black eye for Wikipedia if it made it into the media. Plantdrew ( talk) 03:29, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
@ Plantdrew: Thanks for bringing this up here. I'd meant to do so myself earlier - Dr. Löckenhoff contacted me on my talk page a couple of days ago to ask about a resolution - but I'm afraid I let it fall through the cracks. Regardless, I'd like to get some WIR input on this. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 04:54, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
What I find shocking is the response at Talk:Corinna Löckenhoff which refuses to re-implement the changes she had requested but throws down a bureaucratic response insisting that any proposed changes be presented in a particular form. It is clear what changes she is requesting, and a kinder response would have been to check that the content she proposed was sourced to the references and implement those changes. Pam D 00:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Dr. Löckenhoff has withdrawn her deletion request. XOR'easter ( talk) 05:20, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Came across this the other day while looking for information on Mary Brown Channel, the first licensed woman architect in Virginia. (Someone else on my to-create list, I find.) I never even realized it existed, yet it seems to be quite extensive, containing even a biographical database. Not sure as to the notability of all of the architects contained therein, but there's surely some fodder for future discussion/article creation. The link is here: https://iawadb.lib.vt.edu/index.php. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 15:02, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi all. I am very impressed with this fantastic WikiProject. I would like to list this WikiProject that I am creating at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council; I am compiling a list of active WikiProjects, and will be sure of course to include this one.
I was wondering, might it be possible to give me one or two people whom I could include as contacts for this WikiProject? I did find Megalibrarygirl ( talk · contribs) on one project page, as someone who is a resource to others here. Is there anyone else whom I can ask? -- Sm8900 ( talk) 03:00, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Biografer ( talk · contribs) has been blocked as a sockpuppet; see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mishae/Archive. Biografer did not specifically concentrate on biographies of women, but created many biographies, among them many women. The discussion above about Corinna Löckenhoff involves one of these.
It seems possible to me that one consequence of this block is that the creations that were not significantly edited by others could be deleted under WP:CSD#G5, so it might be worthwhile to look through Biografer's page creations and making sure the ones on women are safe from this type of deletion.
It's probably worthwhile checking them over anyway; as it says on the SPI, many of Biografer's creations were inaccurate (e.g. one that I just checked myself, Lucija Čok, said she received an honor while serving as minister of education, but actually the source said it was while she was doing something else and was given for her earlier work as minister) or in some cases involved close paraphrasing. And in the case of Corinna Löckenhoff, it seems likely that the trigger for the deletion request was the subject's reaction to inaccuracies introduced by Biografer. — David Eppstein ( talk) 01:20, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Scraping the list, as a start here are the dozen most recently created (now deleted) and the descriptions I found by clicking on their log entries:
Name | Description | Languages | Wikidata |
Emily Agree | sociologist | Q81771862 | |
Tanja Schultz | professor of computer science at the University of Bremen. | not found on Wikidata | |
Sandra Irving | birth_place = Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada | Q80726416 | |
Sonia Aissa | Professor of Telecommunications at the Institut national de la recherche scientifique, Université du Québec. | Q61304644 | |
Amy Schmitz | Elwood L. Thomas Missouri Endowed Professor of Law at the University of Missouri School of Law | Q80124736 | |
Silvia Fresco | publisher=American College of Surgeons | not found on Wikidata | |
Margaret Gatz | professor of psychology, gerontology and preventive healthcare at the USC Davis School of Gerontology and at the USC Dor. | Q57015022 | |
Marcy S. Friedman | Friedman graduated with B.A. (magna cum laude) from Smith College in 1972 and two | Q76756612 | |
Geraldine Downey | Vice Provost for Diversity Initiatives and Robert Johnston Niven Professor of Humane Letters in Psychology at the Department of Psych | Q76485855 | |
Rebecca S. Eisenberg | Robert and Barbara Luciano Professor of Law at the University of Michigan Law School. Eisenberg graduated from Stanford Un. | Q76384046 | |
Laura Crotty Alexander | associate professor of medicine at the University of California, San Diego. | Q76202294 | |
Abigail Marsh | associate professor in the Department of Psychology and the Interdisciplinary Program in Neuroscience at Georgetown University. | Q76490837 |
I'm happy to continue with the other 54 that I easily identified as female. Also, it might be an idea if I added their Wikidata Q numbers. Oronsay ( talk) 13:47, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Here are more deleted articles, covering the creations from 2019 (there are many more from the previous two years). First some that are clearly notable:
Notability not as clear but some of these are likely notable:
— David Eppstein ( talk) 01:17, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
References
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Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 01:45, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
This article was a stub when I created it, I've expanded it since then. I think that this would probably be a start-class article now, but I'd like to have another editor's input to know if it actually is or not. Clovermoss (talk) 21:37, 16 January 2020 (UTC)