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Please see proposal for a merger and multiple renamings at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 May 13#Category:Free, open-source video games. – Fayenatic L ondon 18:51, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
About a week ago, User:Archcaster wrote over a redirect at Xbox (series). It appears that significant chunks of the text at that article (At least the sections about the individual consoles, the dashboard, Xbox Live Marketplace and Smartglass section) were copied directly from the leads of various Xbox related articles. The article probably qualifies for a A10 speedy deletion with so much copied content, but the article may have some potential use so I'm letting this Wikiproject know about it before anything else is done. -- Michael Greiner 23:43, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
There is a proposal to move Xbox (series) to Xbox and Xbox to Xbox (console) to bring it in line with the WP:VG naming guidelines, this is the existing format that is used on the PlayStation articles. - X201 ( talk) 09:31, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Speaking of Zelda, what do you guys think of this template?
{{
The Legend of Zelda chronology}}
It seems too gamecrufty to me, to make one hell of an eyesore just to show how complicated the whole LoZ timeline is. --Soetermans. T / C 14:27, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
The full chronology isnt important as others make it out to be. Its important to show the template through release so it can be easier to navigate. Lucia Black ( talk) 23:21, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Posed this same question on that articles talk page also, but figured I'd give it a try here to. This list is quite confusing. It lists courses that are not in the PC version, so would it be possible to have say "course (console only)" "course (PC only)", or something like that so that it makes it easier to determine which platform has what courses? Or it is, like the list of golfers, listcruft? 65.24.41.31 ( talk) 02:40, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
I've noticed that since the 2009 in video gaming article, the (Year x) in video gaming articles have drifted from listing worldwide release dates to moving to a North American date list instead. I can't help but think that the articles fail the likes of WP:WORLDVIEW. There's no problem with having a list of North American release dates, but it should be named as such, and not presented as a definite version of world video games in that particular year. I've tagged the 2013 article with a Globalize tag, but I think its going to need more than that. - X201 ( talk) 10:34, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys,
I just recently saw the StrategyWiki template on the article on Super Smash Bros. Brawl. To me a EL to a gameguide seems like a huge WP:ELNO, but it was reverted later by another user, claiming that it is "An acceptable EL found in many Wiki articles" - WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS much? Strange enough that in all my editing of VG articles this is the first time I actually came across it.
I'm not sure why we should have those kind of links for VG articles. Actually, I'm completely against them, for a couple of reasons. 1) just as Wikipedia isn't a gameguide, we don't have to point out that there are websites like that 2) There are of course thousands of gameguide websites, the fact that we specifically point to one website is unfair 3) like all wikis it is user generated, and can't be tested 4) a Wiki dedicated to a certain series or franchise usually encompasses it as a whole (creators, characters, etc). Compare the StrategyWiki entry and the Wikia for SSMB.
I hope we can come to a definitive consensus, because what I understand from a quick glance through the archives, is that there never was a general consensus.
--Soetermans. T / C 10:20, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Should or shouldn't we add breaks in the infobox? I prefer listing platforms like so:
and not
However, I've noticed that some users go for the first, others for the latter. Consensus time!
--Soetermans. T / C 10:28, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
-- Niemti ( talk) 19:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
hahnchen hit the nail on the head with the reason that games double up on the console and console only its to do with WP:DUPCAT. Because the "only" categories exist then they have to appear in the parent category so that we fulfil DUPCAT.
My own view of the subject is that we need a BIG discussion, akin to The Great Infobox Overhaul of 2010, we need to really fix the categorization problems of re-releases of ancient titles on new platforms, the categorization of PSN/XBL/VC titles and the old chesnut of is PSN/XBLA a platform or a delivery system? The "Only" categories, and loads of other things that keep popping up on this page but never quite get put to bed in a definitive manner. - X201 ( talk) 08:44, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Can I get more input at Talk:Batman: Arkham City#Sequel section. The discussion is about whether to rename "Sequel" section of the article to "Prequel". -- Mika1h ( talk) 19:32, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I am working on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheUnknownNinjaNN2/sandbox
Is anyone willing to help?
P.S. I will handle citations when that time comes.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 04:56, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
That user page is eons old. I need to change it. I only plan on writing NN. I just have a feeling that it will eventually be notable.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 04:38, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I actually have been trying to edit other pages.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 13:13, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I understand the policies. I just don't always realize that I am stating OR. I actually went quite extreme with this game. Until I realized (recently) that I was wrong in some areas. In fact it was an argument of notability, and rereading the old article that I discovered that I was way off as my current fact did not match up. I fixed that by going back to square one, and staying there.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 23:02, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Why was Pikmin italicized?
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 05:31, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
What does that have to do with italicization?
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 13:38, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I should unitalicize it then, cause it is reffering to the creature.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 15:33, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Focusing on niche topic areas A user may have an interest in a topic that other users find trivial or post contents that are difficult to comprehend. Diversity in interests and inputs from specialists in many fields help us function as a comprehensive encyclopedia.
My topic is the video game storylines themselves. I try to add without using OR, but it is in its nature difficult to tell the difference. This applies here as Nintendo Nightmare is just a... favorite of mine. Could it be called that? I guess I just thought Wikipedia was more subjective when I joined. I thought things just had to be factual, and second party. I conclude that this article is for me only. I would like help attempting to find an acceptable wiki for it. Also, could someone just summarize OR in relation to my subject matter? Thanks.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 04:41, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
So let me summarize (please tell me if I am understanding right)
1. Storylines are acceptable as subsections.
2. Keep them as small as possible.
3. Quoting games is allowed but do zero deduction. Remove any possible controversy or misreading.
4. Do research.
5. (extra) Find a new wiki for NN.
Thanks.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 04:34, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Publications of Note
Are the publications listed here are really credible and worthy to be mentioned here? Plus didn't GamePro, PSMagazine and XboxMagazine shut down already? I mean they are no longer publishing issues. Just like 1UP and GameSpy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert Latik ( talk • contribs) 11:51, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Robert Latik ( talk) 12:11, 22 May 2013 112.209.176.230 ( talk) 05:25, 23 May 2013 (UTC) 96.229.10.140 ( talk) 06:55, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
WP:VG/S lists in detail the sourced that are reliable. If you check the talk page, a lot of discussion are about whether or not particular sources and media outlets are noteworthy and reliable. If you feel some aren't, you could start a new topic. For the ones you mentioned, I can only say that it wouldn't make sense to mention them just because they've shut down. Their opinion mattered once and that's what matters, not if they're still around today. --Soetermans. T / C 11:05, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Regardless of spamming, there should not really be a need for a list. Just tell people key words to search for, or just give a general guideline. It might be good to list members who can give more specific details in the area where you give the general guidelines. Plus, I would try to condense the guidelines. Two subjects above we ended up summarizing it to basic rules. Granted, it was a specific subject, but does it really need to be that big?
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 16:52, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
It's been up for almost a week now and no comments/reviews. If anyone has some spare time and could take a look, that would be appreciated. -- JDC808 ♫ 18:25, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
First of all, I honestly can't edit and don't think I'm qualified that is why I bring this concern to this talk page. There are numerous errors in each "year in video gaming" article in terms of video game releases. Some notable releases are excluded and some dates of each video game released are wrong. This can be easily corrected with the right tools and proper editorial discretion (which I don't have, but I can help). These can be helpful with regards to seventh generation console games.
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/xbox360/date?hardware=all&view=detailed&page=22 http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/ps3/date?hardware=all&view=detailed&page=21 http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/wii/date?view=condensed&page=9
Others reliable resources are video game websites such as the ones listed here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_journalism
I believe the "years in video gaming" can be improved and be listed as good articles. Robert Latik ( talk) 03:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Will anyone be working on these? 112.209.145.176 ( talk) 15:17, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
How would you know if there are people "watching" such articles? Has anybody seen this post on the talk page in order for them to make a few changes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.209.176.230 ( talk) 15:58, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Will anyone be reassessing the years in video gaming articles to find faults and improve them? 112.209.176.230 ( talk) 06:10, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Will anyone be doing this ^? Reassessment and improvement? 72.34.94.83 ( talk) 23:34, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
... is at featured list candidates. I would be glad to receive some feedback and hopefully some support as I try to bring this back to FL status. Red Phoenix build the future... remember the past... 14:52, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys,
Per consensus, we list infobox and navbox entries essentially alphabetical. You know, Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360. But thanks to the Xbox One for at least a couple of upcoming games (i.e., Watch Dogs, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Assassin's Creed IV) the platforms should be listed as PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox One, Xbox 360. Kinda stupid, right? Shall we agree right here that we will make an exception, and make it primarily alphabetical, with a chronological twist to it? --Soetermans. T / C 11:57, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Besides numbers go before letters. That is how Microsoft Word does it.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2( Talk, Always willing to discuss this subject) 16:21, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Should it or should it not be hyphenated?
An example of it not being hyphenated is with the God of War series. Each of the game's manuals don't hyphenate. However, some say it should be. When looking at this article, Context-sensitive user interface, there are only 3 instances of it being hyphenated (the article's title, a sub-section title, and once inside a quote). Every other time it's used (which is about 10 times), there's no hyphen. -- JDC808 ♫ 03:15, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Is there some kind of dictionary we can consult? Also, is this one word or a two word phrase?
TheUnknownNinjaNN2( Talk, Always willing to discuss this subject) 22:43, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Do the articles in Category:Game console operating systems (extensive version histories with a little commentary) violate WP:GAMECRUFT #9? They read more like indiscriminate lists of updates than encyclopedic articles. I wanted to ask here before bringing it to an official channel. They've been around for a while, but I wasn't able to find any discussion about this after several searches. czar · · 17:19, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Warface was recently moved to Wikipedia talk:Warface because quote: "It's need to develop well before publishing." I haven't seen articles redirected to Wikipedia namespace before. Is this a new procedure that I just wasn't aware of? -- Mika1h ( talk) 20:43, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys,
Can someone help me? I was trying to edit the pro gamer template so that the games listed are automatically made cursive, but I can't seem to figure it out. Thanks. --Soetermans. T / C 13:45, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Are these not near-synonyms? S.G.(GH) ping! 16:59, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm in the process of converting the List of Apple II games into tables, such as has been done here and here. But I'd like some input. Since this is the first platform I've converted, I'm wondering what columns should be included. Since they're all for the Apple II, a "platforms" column is irrelevant. Some entries in the list have "(port)" listed next to them, but this seems a rather trivial detail. Any other ideas? Or should I just continue with the columns I have? Appreciate any input! — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 02:30, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
ME is the only series I've seen on WP thus far to lowercase its fictional alien race names to the in-universe style. Is there some consensus on this matter discussed elsewhere in the project?
Discussion at Talk:Illusive Man#Species capitalization czar · · 17:47, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
I am curious why this article got deleted. I thought lists were a valid topic to start an article. SharkD Talk 04:05, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I know this was already here, but we haven't got a new goal to replace the 10% C-Class. As well, it might be a good idea to display how many FAs and GAs we have on those goals. We could do 50% Start, 10% B, or 20% C. If you have any others, feel free to put those down. Darrman ( talk) 10:26, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Do you mind rephrasing that^? I don't know what half that stuff means. Are you saying that we need to get more into C-Class (whatever that is)?
TheUnknownNinjaNN2( Talk, Always willing to discuss this subject) 22:45, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Ok, is there any way we can bring this to the attention of the project members? How did we pick the goals there now? We could do the same thing now. It might be a good idea to vote for the goal. The choices could be 50% Start, 20% C, 10% B, as I suggested, or 80% High and Top-importance to C, as suggested in the above comment. We do need a new goal, after all. Darrman ( talk) 16:03, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
This source comes from Eurogamer. It discusses Xbox primary, and it also discusses failed attempts to make Resident Evil 4 Xbox-exclusive. You can find it valuable... or not, but I hope it helps improve the related articles. -- George Ho ( talk) 23:06, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Looking for a quick decision on this. DragonZero ( Talk · Contribs) 07:29, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
I've recently been working on List of video game crowdfunding projects, and so have been looking up and down Kickstarter the past few days. I wouldn't post a project here, unless I thought you guys would be genuinely interested in it - and that it could help Wikipedia.
This is the project - The Untold History of Japanese Game Developers. John Szczepaniak, a professional games journalist, who's work I've read and enjoyed in Retro Gamer, is proposing on travelling to Japan, hiring the best translator he can find - and then interviewing a load of developers to chronicle the history of Japanese games. It's essentially going to be a new reliable source, it could provide good English language coverage of important games that are poorly covered on Wikipedia.
If you happen to be a moneybags - if you pledge £500 (there are currently 3 remaining slots), he will dedicate at least 4 pages to the game of your choice. So if you're a big Crusader of Centy (I pulled this out of a hat) fan, and are desperate to flesh out its development section - get your wallet out. - hahnch e n 20:42, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone have a copy of Family Computer 1983-1994 (ファミリーコンピュータ 1983-1994), one of the definitive Famicom game catalogs? I'd like to use it for reference, if possible. Otherwise, I'm open for suggestions on how to get it. czar · · 06:34, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
None of these look notable to me, can you experts please advise? Giant Snowman 11:18, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks guys, all three nominated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Platform Racing, input welcome. Giant Snowman 12:51, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys,
When editing a VG article I always used take out the platform-specific distribution channel. For instance, a downloadable game available on PlayStation 3, platform should mention the console, media/distribution says either optical disc or digital distribution and release date says PSN. And then there is of course the article body. But just now Teancum re-added that bit, saying that there were discussion over this in the past, actually mentioning PSN, XBLA etc behind a specific platform. I have the fullest respect for Teancum, so I can only assume he was correct. However, I tried looking it up, but I'm not sure what to look for (distribution alone gives a lot of results). Can someone summarize that past discussion? Because to me it is too much, and it should be clear right away whether or not a game is only available in digital form. Thanks! --Soetermans. T / C 11:16, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
So, I've seen some editors arguing about this, and before I stepped in, I wanted to see if there was a prior consensus, or if we could build one on it now, regarding Allgame. Allgame is definitely deemed reliable as a source in general, and I don't dispute that at all. But what about as a review score? For instance, a user is trying to use this link to give Sonic 3 a 4.5/5 star rating in a review box. However, what is this score based on? There is no review or context, just a brief "description" of the game, and an unrelated star based numerical score.
I'm all for using it as a source in general, but I question whether or not we should be using these context-less review scores. Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 13:35, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
You're invited to join the discussion at Talk:Illusive Man#Request for comment. czar · · 03:06, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
The story so far...
The Game Maker article had a lot of content added to it, with a sizeable chunk of negative stuff as well. Content was added removed copy-and pasted, removed, added. Then a another user showed up (possibly a company representative) adds copy vio stuff, removes criticism, added other copy and paste stuff from another Wiki.
User asks for help saying that the negative info is being added by a user that was banned from the forum.
Anyway...
The article needs a serious going over, some of the references are to forums and Wikis, some of the content is not notable and the general layout and content could do with a cleanup as well. In short, it needs a serious going over chaps. -
X201 (
talk) 09:09, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
The company representative is back and re-adding removed content. This could develop into WP:OWN. - X201 ( talk) 09:02, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm currently working on List of Square Enix downloadable games, with the aim of taking it to FLC. Currently, I have it all in one big table, but another user has suggested that it would work better as seperate tables per platform ( like so). I like having it as one table so that you can sort everything by date or whatnot instead of piecing together multiple tables, but Jotamide thinks that its easier to parse as separate tables. I was basing the list off of List of Square Enix games, a featured list, but I don't know if that's a fair comparison since I wrote that one too. Does anyone else have an opinion on which way it should be? -- Pres N 22:55, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys,
Does anyone of you think Isaac Clarke is notable? Player017 thinks so, but I disagree. Right now the events of Dead Space are mentioned, and that's it. The character development section is just as the bit in the article on Dead Space, while there is no character reception or legacy or whatever. As far as I know, the pretty bland character of Clarke isn't particularly notable whatsoever. I think that a redirect is pretty obvious here. Input is much appreciated. --Soetermans. T / C 12:57, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Since Summer is around the corner, I think that we should try to take care of some backlog in our project:
So, if you can, please look over these and help out. GamerPro64 16:51, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I recently wrote the Diamond Trust of London article, and stuck {{ WikiProject Video games}} on its talk page, this was quickly followed up by another editor with links to the Indie and Strategy taskforces. These tasksforces are dead, the last talk page activity on those two taskforces were in August 2012 and January 2011 respectively.
Devil May Cry, March 2009. Castlevania, January 2010. Even though PlayStation saw some activity in May 2013, it's something that could be handled a lot better just on this main Wikiproject talk page. I think the vast majority of these task forces should be deleted and redirected towards this main page. I think our talk page templates should remove references to these mostly unwatched pages. If articles falling within these franchises are better served with specifically tailored article guidelines, they can be linked from the main project version. - hahnch e n 18:59, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
We need some help with a problem that has arisen regarding the move of the articles formerly known as "C1 NES TV" and "SF-1 SNES TV" to "C1 (television)" and "SF1 (television)". User:Despatche and I have been discussing the question and it's become clear that we need third party opinions at this point. The RfC can be found here. If anyone has any opinions on this issue, please weigh in. - Thibbs ( talk) 03:08, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I know we already have a subsection on VG-related AFDs. However, I wanted to request more discussion on this one, for two reasons:
Anyways, if anyone has anything to contribute, even if it was "No Serge, lets delete it", I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 21:07, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
An RfC has been started for the Sega Genesis talk page to garner outside opinions on this topic, as some feel "Sega Genesis" is an unsuitable name with a narrow worldview, considering the console was known as the "Sega Mega Drive" in the majority of the world and only known as the Genesis in one specific region, due to copyright issues. -- 85.211.130.47 ( talk) 08:49, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm really interested in the influences, which is a major point that is currently lacking on the games related articles on Wikipedia. I would be glad to see a section "Influences" for as many games as possible where the origins are explained and what the game itself influenced.-- Homei ( talk) 06:45, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello, |
Alright, I'm starting to sound like a broken record here, asking for advice on how to handle other users, but here I go again. User:MilitaryNut has taken it upon himself to make a bunch of templates full with color, trying to fall in line with the color schemes of logos and such. While I find the Template:Portal series pretty nice, Template:Left 4 Dead and Template:Doom series make my eyes hurt. Admin User:S@bre commented in his edit summary, to which MilitaryNut replied amically. Before I undo the rest of his edits, I noticed the 'Don't edit war over the colour of templates' guideline. Should we go by a template-by-template judgment? Or is there another consenus saying, 'nah, let's not do that' all together? --Soetermans. T / C 18:45, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
If the Left 4 Dead and Doom templates are stirring up issues, I'll just revert them to the standard-issue layout before a dispute happens. Just playing it safe. -- MilitaryNut ( talk) 23:17, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
As a matter of fact, look over all my edits and decide with the others. If any of my edits are not appropriate to Wikipedia, I'll be fine with anyone reverting my colouring to templates. Cheers. -- MilitaryNut ( talk) 23:26, 9 June 2013 (UTC) I really need to re-think my decisions on certain edits...
Trying to make a similar drive for WP:ANIME to have 25% of Anime and manga articles above stub or similar to that. Can someone help me make one? Lucia Black ( talk) 01:12, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello. I'm looking for an additional input on whether or not a chart violates WP:GAMECRUFT.
Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 02:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Hey, everyone, sorry to ask a second time, but it's been almost three weeks and I've received very little feedback. List of Sega 32X games is at WP:FLC, and I could really use some feedback. Supports, comments, whatever I can get. FLC looks to be pretty backlogged, so the quicker I can get some kind of consensus and work through the issues, the easier it'll be for this to get pushed through and add more featured content to the project. Thanks. Red Phoenix build the future... remember the past... 01:49, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured topics/StarCraft titles' retention period ends tomorrow with StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm, so if anyone wants to try to save the topic from being delisted, now would be the time.-- 十 八 10:46, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
No idea how to deal with this guy,
User:GVnayR. He was previously blocked for copying copyrighted content verbatim from sources such as Mobygames. It's obvious he thinks he's helping, in a
Bat-Mite sort of way. But he has dozens (hundreds?) of edits like these, adding unencyclopedic commentary to video game articles and other content:
He generally cites unreliable sources and presents opinions in those articles as facts. User has been asked repeatedly to fix up his contributions but to no avail. It's really frustrating since it becomes almost necessary to clean up after him. -- Jtalledo (talk) 10:55, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi, sorry for
reposting. However, I realised that the main talk could be a more appropriate place for asking questions:
Does
"we do not assess redirects" mean that WP:VG templates should be removed entirely from talk pages of redirects within the project's scope?
Moritz37 ( talk) 16:54, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion about the phrase "Steep Learning Curve" at Talk:Dwarf Fortress that could use another set of eyes. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 09:28, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you're aware, but WildStar (video game) was recently deleted under criteria G11. I'm not sure what the original article looked like (perhaps Masem can help there?), but as one of the major PC releases of 2013 and possibly the biggest MMO release this year, I felt it was important to have an article on the subject.
However, I'm unable to employ WP:SOFIXIT in this context - I am now a professional video games journalist, and working on this would be a conflict of interest.
I have, however, compiled a large amount of material from reliable sources including ZAM Network MMORPG.COM, Joystiq, IGN, Rock Paper Shotgun, Destructoid, PC Gamer, and VG247. This blend of general and specialist gaming media should support an article that easily passes the GNG.
Hope all this helps, and I look forward to seeing the results! Best, Gazi moff 02:26, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Sorry if the answer is obvious somewhere I haven't looked.
But are these sections about the game's development or the marketing campaign (or both)? Are WWE '13 or NBA 2K12, for instance, proper, mentioning announcements (with dates), promotion and all that about cover art? Doesn't seem to have anything to do with how the games were built, which "development" suggests to me. Something like BioShock or Elder Scrolls: Oblivion's are more what I'd imagine.
Any clarification is appreciated. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:41, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
I was working through some categories and came across Category:Planetarium Football Star which is an article about a football management game that has been miscreated as a category. Before moving it to article space, there needs to be a decision about whether it's notable or not - and I'm not the person to make that call! I'm guessing probably not, although they claim over 100k users. There's a related article at Planetarium Manager with similar notability concerns - seems to have been created by User:Pgames as a user page and then moved by User:Christian Hubbs to article space. Given that they are made by Planetarium Games this looks like a WP:CORPNAME doing WP:COI WP:ADVERTising - could someone take a look who knows more about video games than me? TIA. Le Deluge ( talk) 14:57, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
If anyone has some time, God of War II is at FAC. -- JDC808 ♫ 17:52, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Guys, I'm really starting to lose my cool with that uncivil rude person. This is annoying enough, but when you actively start with disruptive editing, I'm done. Overlinking to motion capture twice, unlinking to video game in the lead, undoing piped links [[Action-adventure game|action-adventure]]... And the fact that he only rarely writes down anything in the edit summary is also really getting on my nerve. Is there anything we can do about him and his attitude? --Soetermans. T / C 12:47, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
(Sorry for broken English) Hello! I found the
NA official page of Dragon Quest IX was redirected to Nintendo.com. However, some articles used a subpage of this site (
dqnine
There is an image of the PlayStation 2 up for Featured Picture status. If you can please Support or Oppose its candidacy here. GamerPro64 17:24, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Over at the requests talk page user Czar and I have agreed the lead paragraph needs a reword. We're looking for a consensus on the new lead and would like to hear any other opinions on it. Samwalton9 ( talk) 19:36, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
I've just removed Portal:Current events/Video gaming/In the news from Portal:Video games because it's hopelessly out of date. I don't visit Portal:Video games, but it still gets over 250 hits per day which is probably more than most personal games blogs. If someone fancies themselves a bit of a newsie, like putting out headlines, and commits to it, go update it and un-orphan it. Having a picture of Peter Molyneux on Portal:Video games for over two years straight is shockingly embarrassing. - hahnch e n 22:05, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
There is an ongoing discussion with User:Niemti in Talk:Zack Fair#Jesus Christ Denton regarding the addition of an image without content about it. The user appears to be quite informal just by reading the section title so more comments would calm down the situation. Tintor2 ( talk) 00:41, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
As I've mentioned in the discussion above, the In the news section of the Video Games Portal is now up to date, has been re-added to the portal main page, and I will be attempting to keep it current. If anyone else can give me a hand in monitoring and updating it, that would be great. Samwalton9 ( talk) 11:27, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
The usage of Virtual currency ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is up for discussion, see talk:digital currency -- 65.94.79.6 ( talk) 03:54, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
In regards to this edit to the Paperboy article, is it really necessary to list the foreign titles of a game in the lead, or anywhere else in the article, for that matter? I can understand including it there if it was a foreign game released in North America under an English title, but Paperboy is a North American game by a (at the time) North American company. I mean, should we list the Italian, Spanish and German titles too? How relevant is the foreign title to the subject matter? — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 02:12, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Can they be used as sources? I've been wondering about this, but wasn't sure if there would be any copyright issues. -- JDC808 ♫ 01:11, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I'll be reviewing Sonic the Hedgehog (1991 video game) in the next few days and I wanted to know if it is okay for the Plot and Gameplay section to be merged in a single section. I find it difficult to distinguish what parts of the section are considered Gameplay and which are part of the Plot. I wouldn't want the Gameplay parts to go unsourced, though. Thanks. ComputerJA ( ☎ • ✎) 18:19, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm wondering what (if anything) should be done with SubSpace (video game). A part of the article is about the original game, SubSpace. But the majority is about the development and running of fan-made servers and software. Of course, this is entirely unsupported by reliable sources, and the external links are mostly to copyright violations. I have a mind to cut the article back to be about the original game SubSpace and only that game, but I figured I'd get a few more opinions because it seems like this always ruffles a few feathers. Woodroar ( talk) 23:34, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Over the past week I've been attempting to clear out the article requests page which is severely backlogged. I've been through and checked every article, removing those I am sure wouldn't make a full article after searching for sources. It would be a big help towards the clearing if other other editors could help me take a closer look at the requests I've left, and help create the articles which have sufficient sources. I have left some possible sources next to most entries left on the requests page to help. Samwalton9 ( talk) 00:29, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
This game is called "Guilty". I can't find any proof of the existence of the titles "Innocent Until Caught 2: Presumed Guilty" or "Innocent Until Caught 2: Guilty". -- 93.217.213.158 ( talk) 03:38, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
Sega v. Accolade has been at WP:FAC for a couple of weeks now, with next to no support or even opposition except from one person who's since become a contributor to the article. This is one of the most influential cases in video game history, and the right to reverse engineer. Would anyone like to help me out by reading over the article and offering some feedback or maybe support? Thank you very much, and I do believe in reciprocity and would be glad to help out any other editor in return with their project reviews, including peer review, good article nom., featured article and list candidacy, etc. Red Phoenix build the future... remember the past... 22:16, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
I have revamped the game above and taken it to FAC. Comments are very welcome about it at the nom page. Thanks! — ΛΧΣ 21 02:26, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm a bit unhappy with Eggplant Wizard, which redirects to a section of Kid Icarus that doesn't mention him at all. I was thinking of retargeting it to List of Kid Icarus characters#Underworld Army, where he's a list item, but the character is also well known as an antagonist from Captain N: The Game Master. So retarget to Captain N: The Game Master#Major villains? So maybe it would be best to follow King Hippo and convert it to a standalone article. Think he would meet WP:FICT? I could take a stab at this, but I thought someone at this project might be better qualified. There's an older version of the article as a stub, but it's not much to go by. -- BDD ( talk) 19:47, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Hey, everyone. While looking over Characters of God of War to review it for GA status at WP:GAN, a discussion came up as to whether or not this is a list, and should simply be closed as such. As the reviewer who put my name on it before this discussion came up, I'd like to ask for consensus on whether or not it should be treated as a list here before I make a decision. Thanks, Red Phoenix build the future... remember the past... 17:01, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
User:69.122.114.246 is changing the dates on a vast number of articles. Can't see any evidence of references, they leave no edit summary, they're also editing List of PlayStation 2 games. Don't think its vandalism, but have no idea where they're getting the dates from either. - X201 ( talk) 21:23, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
And they're adding Flagicons to List of PlayStation 2 games, NOOOOO! - X201 ( talk) 07:34, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Partly as a result of the recent dispute over RetroArch, I decided to start looking through the other emulator pages we have categorized or templated, and I'm seeing a lot of cruft. I've started exhaustively nominating numerous emulator articles for merge to List of video game emulators. I could use your help. :)
To be clear, I'm only nominating articles that clearly don't have proper sources in them. Most of them have been tagged for years for needing citations or not meeting notability criteria, so for them it's mostly cleanup. In a couple isolated cases, articles do appear to be pretty complete and just need sources, so I'm not tagging those yet. — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 16:06, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
All but two AfDs have been moved to proposed merges, continue discussion here: Talk:List of video game emulators#2013 merge discussion czar · · 21:09, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
I think that I fixed the biggest problems with MAME. It had been highlighted as a poor article in a few places (such as talk:RetroArch and WP:ANI). It could still use some attention, but it at least establishes notability and cites a few non-primary sources now. I was quite surprised that it had been rated B-class (self-evaluated by a seemingly retired editor), so I downgraded it to C-class. If someone wants to reevaluate it to B-class, that's fine with me (just revert my last edit to the talk page), but I'm not convinced that it's quite at that level yet. There are some more comments on the talk page, but it's mostly just me talking to myself. Mostly, I just wanted to give a heads-up that I changed the rating and did some emergency policy compliance work so that other people don't race to the page and try to do the same thing. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 21:47, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi everyone! Hope you're doing well. Some of you may be familiar with The Legend of Zelda: Hyrule Historia, a book on The Legend of Zelda series. I recently changed the page from a redirect into a full article and expanded it out. I would very much appreciate your help in improving the article further.
Since I recently created the article and I think it's a topic worthy of broad recognition, I have nominated a snippet from the article for Did You Know? If you would like to contribute, here's what you can do:
I appreciate your help on this! CaseyPenk ( talk) 17:16, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
We are having some difficulty determining what to do with {{ Jack}}. Most importantly, we are trying to determine whether Jack the Giant Killer and Jack and the Beanstalk should have separate templates. Please comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fictional characters#Template:Jack.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 15:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
At first I mentioned Machinima.com knly being known as just "Machinima" in both its site and rights reserved, but then I also noticed GameRankings in which the site presents itself as "GameRankings.com" I find this inconsistency very important as we have dozens of articles referring to "GameRankings.com" as just "GameRankings" and im unsure of how many times Machinima has been used but it could be bigger than what I imagine. Point is: how many sites do we present them innacurately? Im sure there are more sites that dont refer themselves by their website url and some that do and we dont have a proper naming convention for these to name them properly. Lucia Black ( talk) 22:05, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
My point is we should add a more distinct naming convention for these sites if there isnt one already. And salvidrim.net doesn't really apply unless it linked to a site with the logo "Salvidrim.net" lets not add vague inacurate hypothetical examples for the sake of sarcasm. And Machinima still an issue too. So it would be great if the discussion wasnt shot down so quickly. Lucia Black ( talk) 23:49, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
That and its plastered over the site aswell. Still, missing the point. Can we not focus on just GameRankings(.com) (which is what you implied by simply agreeing with salvidrim). Im trying to find or create a rule so that it doesnt seem so inconsistent. Lucia Black ( talk) 02:56, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
If I say "missing the point" then your missing the point. It was made clear, but not adressed is what im referring to. And even then I think its unanimous that any site known as X.com/.net/.org etc. Will obviously use it without the ".com" but we dont know if its easier or just they would like to be known with the link. Which would seem why they have their logo with a ".com" relevant. Lucia Black ( talk) 03:27, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Lucia, is the general point of your post: "company/person/website X calls themselves Y, Wikipedia should call them Y as well?"? - X201 ( talk) 15:34, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
@Serge, the problem no ine addresses it. Regardless if one weretto disagree if it was an issue, the disagreement isnt based on the entire issue, its based on nitpicking specific examples (initially).
@X201, my point is we need more consistent naming conventions. Machinima.com doesnt really promote itself as machinima.com and gamerankings does. Whether they call themselves is different if they are known as something else. Lucia Black ( talk) 20:54, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Im concerned about things being inconsistent when it comes to naming conventions of articles relating to websites. If two articles share the same situation but one can use the ".com" while the other doesnt. I'm not going to delve into the IGN example because it just makes it sound like theres something else. Im more concerned on how accurate consistent we xan make a naming conventions for website articles so that moving articles xan be done more quickly or dismissed more quickly. It all seems to be done at a case by case pace. Lucia Black ( talk) 00:41, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm requesting anyone from this thread to join in the discussion of the RfC in the GameCube talk page since the official name is Nintendo GameCube. Thank you.-- Arkhandar ( talk) 00:38, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
While going through Sega Game Gear, which I'm thinking about making my next project, I found this source on the article: http://www.play-asia.com/image/content/gameplan5.pdf . It's a magazine scan, but not a lot of information is provided and I can't figure out what gaming magazine this might be from. Does anyone recognize it, by any chance? Red Phoenix build the future... remember the past... 00:59, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if everyone is aware of this, but apparently the banned user G-Zay ( talk · contribs) is back, this time as ArchadianJudge ( talk · contribs). Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 04:26, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
If anybody has some spare time, God of War II is at FAC. It currently has 3 supports and no opposes, but the last comment was on July 1. I don't want this nomination to be archived for lack of interest. -- JDC808 ♫ 04:32, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Is these okay for GA or FA:
I read this 1UP.com interview with Hiroyuki Ito before but G-Zay's newest editing spree got me thinking about the battle system designer of FF1 (1987) again. The article's introductory paragraph says "Ito has been involved with nearly the full span of the series, helping to design the combat system for the very first game 25 years ago." Later, the interview asks the following questions:
Now I'm just not sure if Ito is talking about the first game or rather the series in general as he also mentions that he was inspired by the NFL when he designed the battle system he's referring to in his answer. Some things just don't add up if he's talking about FF1:
All this makes me believe that in the 1UP.com interview, Ito was talking about the Active Time Battle system and his great influence on the series' battle systems since FF4. I'm rather split on the issue, but leaning more towards Kawazu as battle system designer of FF1. Any other opinions? Xiomicronpi ( talk) 17:18, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
I was looking for possible sources for retro flight-sim game Bomber, but they are not so easy to find. I initially wrote this stub using just the review from Dragon magazine a few years ago, with the intent to (eventually) come back and flesh it out more. I know from the review that it was published by Inline Design for the Macintosh, and uses a system called HyperCard. I looked around on Google and found a page at VideoGameGeek which shows that it was developed by a company called Deadly Games, which also released the game in 1995 as part of a 4-pack CD ROM, and released a related/retitled/sequel/not sure what called "Bomber III: Flak Alley" in 1997. There is also apparently a Datormagazin review, but I don't know how to make use of that (and I also don't speak Swedish). Anyone have any other help for this one? BOZ ( talk) 03:29, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi everyone. Console wars has been tagged with possible original research since 2007, and being outdated since 2009. It either needs some serious love, or its major content sections should be merged into more appropriate individual articles. I understand the general idea behind having a central article on the concept of console marketing battles, but (a) this approach needs constant maintenance, (b) it doesn't correspond to a specific topic or event, and (c) as it is right now, the article is in pretty bad shape. Any recommendations on what we should do with it? — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 23:57, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
There are chunks of it that I can use as the starting point for something that I've been planning, but never got around to. I've taken a copy of the article and put it here ( User:X201/Console wars) - X201 ( talk) 07:42, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I recently stumbled upon Pokemon-Epic of Time. Beside its inconsistent naming, the content of the article seems rather dubious. Doing a (very) quick search, I didn't find any results on the new game. The only reference to the game has been created by the author of the "Epic of Time" article referencing to it as a rumour [2]. Getting to the point: how to proceed? Since I'm not really into Pokémon and its game releases (...and the deletion process here), I don't know whether it "obviously" falls under the G3 criterion for speedy deletion or should be treated in a different way. Moritz37 ( talk) 19:14, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
As this game now has over 60 million users and has set some records for multiple simultaneous participation:
It is starting to become obvious that an in-game economy article explaining how these internal-to-game economies work may be useful.
World of Tanks' game economy, particularly the use of experience, free experience, credits or 'silver' and (generally real money) 'gold' in the game, has been widely emulated by other freemium games.
Accordingly, this key notable feature of WoT is now carefully elaborated so that it's clear to game designers, cultural observers, economists, addictive game psychologists, as well as potential players, just what you can do for free and what you can't. That covers almost everyone who might want to read this article.
Sections on features only of interest to endgame players such as Clan Wars have been cut back. That and version history could be cut back a lot more. The main reason to keep a version history is to elaborate the reasons for the changes, in terms other than those used by the game vendor.
More references could be added but the material is all very easily verifiable.
A player of this game would find it instantly obvious what was and what was not instantly verifiable, so best if someone with a little familiarity with the game has a look for that purpose. And to double check if a casual player or observer would find the gold economy detail interesting.
Someone with no interest in the game should assess the Clan Wars, version history and other elements that seem to be of little interest to casual readers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.11.94.174 ( talk) 19:03, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
We are having a significant problem at this article. This IP user has been adding large amounts of non-notable, uncited WP:GAMECRUFT to the article, some of it even venturing into original research, and reverting editors who remove the new additions. May I remind people that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a game guide. -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 03:22, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
While I've not got much inclination to do it myself, this article needs work. The references are a shambles, and the article seems a little...well, unfinished for something around this long, even for an unreleased film. I think it comes under the scope of this project, but if it doesn't could someone redirect this to the appropriate project. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 12:07, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Please come and help us build consensus on this. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 17:27, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Would this article fit in the wikiproject? Bespoke Arcades ~~ Sintaku Talk 11:41, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
John Marston | |
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' Red Dead' character | |
Created by | Rockstar Games |
I've been wondering something, and this seems like the best place to ask it. I want to know the best way to make an article on a list of video game characters.
To the right of this paragraph, you'll see what part of the list looks like in the List of Red Dead Redemption characters article, and a similar thing is in the List of Grand Theft Auto IV characters article. However, in other articles, such as the List of Uncharted characters one, there seems to be no such infobox. Therefore, I was wondering if the infobox should be removed from some of the aforementioned articles (and saved for sole articles about characters themselves, such as Lara Croft, Crash Bandicoot, etc.), and the information could be placed in a paragraph about the character themselves? Or should the infobox stay in the list?
Thank you in advance. -- Rhain1999 ( talk) 02:40, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Also, I'm currently in the midst of making a list of characters for L.A. Noire, under my workspace (find it here), and I was wondering if the descriptions for the characters so far are too long, and if they shouldn't contain so much information on the plot. Should I focus more on specifics of the character (personality, physical appearance, etc.)? Thanks again. Rhain1999 ( talk) 03:59, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi everyone! Two weeks ago, I ran into some trouble updating the JSON rating data for the great Rater tool that some of you use. I tried to add "Disambig" to the available rating options, but it didn't really work out. Here's how far I had got: [3]. It seems that you can easily choose between displaying no, few and all class options. I haven't found a way to add a single rating class to the default option, though. Maybe some of you can help me sort this out, here's the data formatting doc and here's the source code.
PS: As the tool seems to be relatively popular among you, I think it would be a good idea to include it at the WP:VG/Assessment#Assessment Tools section.
Moritz37 ( talk) 17:32, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Spotted this new template being added in a couple places. It may have potential, but the current state needs a lot of work, if anyone could chime in on the talk page: Template:Video gaming industry in the United States -- ferret ( talk) 02:42, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
It's been nearly three years since the declined move discussion for Sephiroth (Final Fantasy) to Sephiroth. Sephiroth is a disambiguation with only has four terms: one of which is an unnotable term for Tales of the Abyss and another is for Sefira at Counting of the Omer, which is kind of a long shot for Sephiroth. I'm wondering if a consensus can be built to bring up this argument again. DragonZero ( Talk · Contribs) 09:28, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
As the title says, two very short articles; merge them, expand them, Prod them or delete them? We have Shrek n' Roll and Screwjumper!. Shrek could probably be merged into another Shrek article, not sure what to do with Screwjumper though. - X201 ( talk) 08:18, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Could someone visit List of multiplayer online battle arena games? I am at three revert. An editor keeps adding non-notable custom maps to the list. In response to telling him to use RS, he linked to a download site.... -- ferret ( talk) 14:14, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
There's some emulators that clearly have enough notability to have pages, many that clearly don't, and a lot in the middle. What should be done? I fear that if you strictly apply the 3rd party notability standard, then a lot of pages for emulators would simply be turned into redirects.
Also, what would classify as a reliable third party source to give notability to emulators? Most of them might not get much more press than a few blog posts, or an article on an emulation news site. They will largely be ignored by the main stream media. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 01:08, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
So far I've made the pages for Mednafen and RetroArch redirect to the List of video game emulators. A developer for Retroarch left a very strongly worded reply on my talk page, and then reverted it. Now, there is a few sources for that. There is a link from the Guardian which recommends Retroarch. Guardian is a reliable source that can establish notability. Lifehacker I think is a blog thing, I'm not really sure if it counts. What do you guys think? I think it's a borderline case. If there were a few more sources, I say it should stay for sure. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 06:24, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Masem, don't think emulators apply for any special GNG treatment. They should have reliable independent sources and be the subject of several, such as WP:VG/RS. — HELLKNOWZ ▎ TALK 10:10, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
On the civility front, I believe I've made a little progress with this editor over on Talk:RetroArch - if nothing else, I hope I've convinced him that Harizotoh9 isn't (likely to be) one of his rivals, and that maybe he can take a more constructive approach to improving the article than he chose at first. Here's hoping the effort was worth it. — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 17:38, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
In any case, there's a Wikia devoted entirely to emulation. This is probably the most appropriate place for most emulation articles, especially the ones that fail to meet notability standards.
-- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 20:47, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Just in case anyone's interest, this IP editor finally got himself blocked yesterday after apparently going completely insane. As of now, his block expires in a week, so I expect that sometime next weekend, we'll be hearing from him again. But in the meantime, I think we can get back to actually working on this section of articles - both RetroArch and Higan (emulator) either need some serious help with sources and notability, or should be merged to the main list article. — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 20:55, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Please continue this discussion at the proposed merge: Talk:List of video game emulators#2013 merge discussion czar · · 21:09, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
So, it seems that there is a pretty clear consensus that most of these need to be merged. While I've done many redirects in my day, I haven't done many merges...and there's a number of items that need to be merged...so I was wondering if someone could assist with this? Sergecross73 msg me 12:51, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
There is apparently a review in Datormagazin for Bomber, but I don't know how to make use of that (and I also don't speak Swedish). Can anyone please help out with that? BOZ ( talk) 03:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I'm looking to upload a logo for the Cube World article, but having failed to find one anywhere reliable online, I thought about using the in-game logo. I took a quick look in the files for the game and have found a suitable logo there, I just wondered if it's suitable to upload this or not? Samwalton9 ( talk) 12:28, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
There seems to be a minor edit war going on in Template:Nintendo_developers over whether a company who makes one or more games that are exclusively for a Nintendo console should be considered a second party. Currently companies like Square Enix, Sega, Capcom, and Atlus (who I would consider to be third party developers) are being listed as Nintendo second parties, along with that template on their page. Could we get some consensus over the term second party and whether it should apply to the companies listed. 03:31, 18 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Demeteloaf ( talk • contribs)
So I'm trying to get Beyond Good & Evil to Featured Article status for November and there are a few things that need to be done before I submit it to FAC. Can I get some assistance in taking care of the citation needed tags and looking over the prose? GamerPro64 16:45, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Video gaming in the United States needs improvement any willing to help Dwanyewest ( talk) 01:19, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
I need some outside input on the correct article name for this game. It was originally located at Space Quest: The Sarien Encounter but was recently moved to Space Quest: Chapter I - The Sarien Encounter. I started a discussion here. Thanks. — Torchiest talk edits 13:25, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Tomorrow, July 25th, F-Zero GX will be up on the main page as Today's Featured Article. Expect some Captain Falcon tributes to be had. GamerPro64 21:19, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Through this way, I inform there is a discussion at WT:Disambiguation about partially disambiguated titles, known as " PDABs". This subguide of WP:D affects articles in this WikiProject, some examples are covered by WP:NCVG. There you can give ideas or thoughts about what to do with this guideline. Note this discussion is not to modify any aspect of NCVG. Thanks. Tbhotch. ™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 00:33, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
An IP editor has contested that the GA-nominated Sega CD should be renamed to "Mega-CD" and disagrees with the consensus regarding the Genesis/Mega Drive articles and titles from the RFC a month or so ago. He also claims that the article shows a "North American" bias, which I disagree with. We could use some input from VG project members on this matter in the hopes it can be speedily resolved. Red Phoenix build the future... remember the past... 16:14, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
I would like to point out that no consensus was ever reached on the Mega Drive/Genesis talk page 94.172.126.154 ( talk) 18:02, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
The article is named "Sega CD" In the infobox the "Sega CD" logo is shown before the "Mega CD" when the systems were released the other way round with the "Mega CD" being released first, the Infobox also shows a "Genesis" with a "Sega CD" attached which is fine but it should also show a "Mega Drive" with a "Mega CD" attached.
As for the sources.
Source 01 is from Dave Beuscher of allgame.com, an American site and an American Writer.
Source 02 is from Steven L. Kent an American writer.
Source 03 is from Blake Snow of gamepro.com, an American site and an American Writer.
Source 04 is a link to a scan of the Sega-CD manual, Which I assume has been published without Sega's permission.
Source 05 is from Scott Alan Marriot of allgame.com an American site and an American Writer.
Source 06 is from Scott Alan Marriot of allgame.com again an American site and an American Writer.
Source 07 is from Scott Alan Marriot of allgame.com again an American site and an American Writer.
Source 08 is from Levi Buchanan of ign.com an American site and an American Writer.
Source 09 is from Jeremy Parish of 1up.com an American site and an American Writer.
Source 10 is from Scott Alan Marriot of allgame.com again an American site and an American Writer.
Source 11 is Man!ac Magazine a German publication finally.
Source 12 is from ign.com an American site.
Source 13 is from EGM an American Magazine
Source 14 is from Weekly Famicom Tsushin a Japanese Publication finally.
So out of 14 sources 12 are from American writers and American sites, 1 is from a non English European source and one is from a Japanese source this shows the article has a heavy North American bias and is sourced and written from a North American viewpoint. While each of these sources alone are fine, except the potentially copyright infringing Scan of a Sega manual, used together at the expense of European and Asian sources makes the article one sided and defiantly not suitable for good article status. 94.172.126.154 ( talk) 19:16, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Please come and review the article, it needs more reviewers so it can be passed or failed. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 16:49, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Please add your comments at the above so we can add another great game in our project to the list of the best on Wikipedia! Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 21:42, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
New article at FAC, God of War: Ghost of Sparta (God of War II was promoted). -- JDC808 ♫ 05:58, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Note Arkham asylum has been up since July 6, so it will be getting closed soon if not imminently. If you have been thinking of commenting and not gotten around to it now is the time. Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 18:27, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
I am not a member of WikiProject Video Games and I'm not a gamer. I am doing work on cleaning up the wiki category Category:Pages with no translate target where the English Wikipedia article has an Expand fill-in-the-blank template on it but doesn't point to the article in the foreign-language Wikipedia for it, making it harder to generate a Google Translate of the article from the foreign language into English. One of those pages happens to be " Guild hosting service" where there's an Expand French tag at the top but no link to the French Wikipedia article about the matter. I am not able to find the article in the French Wikipedia, so I was wondering if anybody on WikiProject Video Games knew what the French word is for "guild hosting service", please.
Question: What is the French word for "guild hosting service"?
Thank you in advance. -- Buspirtraz ( talk) 15:58, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
I generally like to use infoboxes in my software articles that show both the icon for the program (when such a thing exists) and a screen shot. However, infobox vg doesn't have an icon. Is this something that could be added? Maury Markowitz ( talk) 19:55, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
image
tag. Screenshots, however, are usually excluded from the infobox. As far as I know, that's based on
this discussion a while back.
Moritz37 (
talk) 20:33, 26 July 2013 (UTC)Is there any reliable database about video game release dates (especial per-2000 video games' NA/EU release date)?-- Antivirus 09 ( talk) 07:53, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
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Please see proposal for a merger and multiple renamings at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 May 13#Category:Free, open-source video games. – Fayenatic L ondon 18:51, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
About a week ago, User:Archcaster wrote over a redirect at Xbox (series). It appears that significant chunks of the text at that article (At least the sections about the individual consoles, the dashboard, Xbox Live Marketplace and Smartglass section) were copied directly from the leads of various Xbox related articles. The article probably qualifies for a A10 speedy deletion with so much copied content, but the article may have some potential use so I'm letting this Wikiproject know about it before anything else is done. -- Michael Greiner 23:43, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
There is a proposal to move Xbox (series) to Xbox and Xbox to Xbox (console) to bring it in line with the WP:VG naming guidelines, this is the existing format that is used on the PlayStation articles. - X201 ( talk) 09:31, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Speaking of Zelda, what do you guys think of this template?
{{
The Legend of Zelda chronology}}
It seems too gamecrufty to me, to make one hell of an eyesore just to show how complicated the whole LoZ timeline is. --Soetermans. T / C 14:27, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
The full chronology isnt important as others make it out to be. Its important to show the template through release so it can be easier to navigate. Lucia Black ( talk) 23:21, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Posed this same question on that articles talk page also, but figured I'd give it a try here to. This list is quite confusing. It lists courses that are not in the PC version, so would it be possible to have say "course (console only)" "course (PC only)", or something like that so that it makes it easier to determine which platform has what courses? Or it is, like the list of golfers, listcruft? 65.24.41.31 ( talk) 02:40, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
I've noticed that since the 2009 in video gaming article, the (Year x) in video gaming articles have drifted from listing worldwide release dates to moving to a North American date list instead. I can't help but think that the articles fail the likes of WP:WORLDVIEW. There's no problem with having a list of North American release dates, but it should be named as such, and not presented as a definite version of world video games in that particular year. I've tagged the 2013 article with a Globalize tag, but I think its going to need more than that. - X201 ( talk) 10:34, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys,
I just recently saw the StrategyWiki template on the article on Super Smash Bros. Brawl. To me a EL to a gameguide seems like a huge WP:ELNO, but it was reverted later by another user, claiming that it is "An acceptable EL found in many Wiki articles" - WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS much? Strange enough that in all my editing of VG articles this is the first time I actually came across it.
I'm not sure why we should have those kind of links for VG articles. Actually, I'm completely against them, for a couple of reasons. 1) just as Wikipedia isn't a gameguide, we don't have to point out that there are websites like that 2) There are of course thousands of gameguide websites, the fact that we specifically point to one website is unfair 3) like all wikis it is user generated, and can't be tested 4) a Wiki dedicated to a certain series or franchise usually encompasses it as a whole (creators, characters, etc). Compare the StrategyWiki entry and the Wikia for SSMB.
I hope we can come to a definitive consensus, because what I understand from a quick glance through the archives, is that there never was a general consensus.
--Soetermans. T / C 10:20, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Should or shouldn't we add breaks in the infobox? I prefer listing platforms like so:
and not
However, I've noticed that some users go for the first, others for the latter. Consensus time!
--Soetermans. T / C 10:28, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
-- Niemti ( talk) 19:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
hahnchen hit the nail on the head with the reason that games double up on the console and console only its to do with WP:DUPCAT. Because the "only" categories exist then they have to appear in the parent category so that we fulfil DUPCAT.
My own view of the subject is that we need a BIG discussion, akin to The Great Infobox Overhaul of 2010, we need to really fix the categorization problems of re-releases of ancient titles on new platforms, the categorization of PSN/XBL/VC titles and the old chesnut of is PSN/XBLA a platform or a delivery system? The "Only" categories, and loads of other things that keep popping up on this page but never quite get put to bed in a definitive manner. - X201 ( talk) 08:44, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Can I get more input at Talk:Batman: Arkham City#Sequel section. The discussion is about whether to rename "Sequel" section of the article to "Prequel". -- Mika1h ( talk) 19:32, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I am working on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheUnknownNinjaNN2/sandbox
Is anyone willing to help?
P.S. I will handle citations when that time comes.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 04:56, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
That user page is eons old. I need to change it. I only plan on writing NN. I just have a feeling that it will eventually be notable.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 04:38, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I actually have been trying to edit other pages.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 13:13, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I understand the policies. I just don't always realize that I am stating OR. I actually went quite extreme with this game. Until I realized (recently) that I was wrong in some areas. In fact it was an argument of notability, and rereading the old article that I discovered that I was way off as my current fact did not match up. I fixed that by going back to square one, and staying there.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 23:02, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Why was Pikmin italicized?
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 05:31, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
What does that have to do with italicization?
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 13:38, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I should unitalicize it then, cause it is reffering to the creature.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 15:33, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Focusing on niche topic areas A user may have an interest in a topic that other users find trivial or post contents that are difficult to comprehend. Diversity in interests and inputs from specialists in many fields help us function as a comprehensive encyclopedia.
My topic is the video game storylines themselves. I try to add without using OR, but it is in its nature difficult to tell the difference. This applies here as Nintendo Nightmare is just a... favorite of mine. Could it be called that? I guess I just thought Wikipedia was more subjective when I joined. I thought things just had to be factual, and second party. I conclude that this article is for me only. I would like help attempting to find an acceptable wiki for it. Also, could someone just summarize OR in relation to my subject matter? Thanks.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 04:41, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
So let me summarize (please tell me if I am understanding right)
1. Storylines are acceptable as subsections.
2. Keep them as small as possible.
3. Quoting games is allowed but do zero deduction. Remove any possible controversy or misreading.
4. Do research.
5. (extra) Find a new wiki for NN.
Thanks.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 04:34, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Publications of Note
Are the publications listed here are really credible and worthy to be mentioned here? Plus didn't GamePro, PSMagazine and XboxMagazine shut down already? I mean they are no longer publishing issues. Just like 1UP and GameSpy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert Latik ( talk • contribs) 11:51, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Robert Latik ( talk) 12:11, 22 May 2013 112.209.176.230 ( talk) 05:25, 23 May 2013 (UTC) 96.229.10.140 ( talk) 06:55, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
WP:VG/S lists in detail the sourced that are reliable. If you check the talk page, a lot of discussion are about whether or not particular sources and media outlets are noteworthy and reliable. If you feel some aren't, you could start a new topic. For the ones you mentioned, I can only say that it wouldn't make sense to mention them just because they've shut down. Their opinion mattered once and that's what matters, not if they're still around today. --Soetermans. T / C 11:05, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Regardless of spamming, there should not really be a need for a list. Just tell people key words to search for, or just give a general guideline. It might be good to list members who can give more specific details in the area where you give the general guidelines. Plus, I would try to condense the guidelines. Two subjects above we ended up summarizing it to basic rules. Granted, it was a specific subject, but does it really need to be that big?
TheUnknownNinjaNN2 ( talk) 16:52, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
It's been up for almost a week now and no comments/reviews. If anyone has some spare time and could take a look, that would be appreciated. -- JDC808 ♫ 18:25, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
First of all, I honestly can't edit and don't think I'm qualified that is why I bring this concern to this talk page. There are numerous errors in each "year in video gaming" article in terms of video game releases. Some notable releases are excluded and some dates of each video game released are wrong. This can be easily corrected with the right tools and proper editorial discretion (which I don't have, but I can help). These can be helpful with regards to seventh generation console games.
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/xbox360/date?hardware=all&view=detailed&page=22 http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/ps3/date?hardware=all&view=detailed&page=21 http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/wii/date?view=condensed&page=9
Others reliable resources are video game websites such as the ones listed here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_journalism
I believe the "years in video gaming" can be improved and be listed as good articles. Robert Latik ( talk) 03:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Will anyone be working on these? 112.209.145.176 ( talk) 15:17, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
How would you know if there are people "watching" such articles? Has anybody seen this post on the talk page in order for them to make a few changes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.209.176.230 ( talk) 15:58, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Will anyone be reassessing the years in video gaming articles to find faults and improve them? 112.209.176.230 ( talk) 06:10, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Will anyone be doing this ^? Reassessment and improvement? 72.34.94.83 ( talk) 23:34, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
... is at featured list candidates. I would be glad to receive some feedback and hopefully some support as I try to bring this back to FL status. Red Phoenix build the future... remember the past... 14:52, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys,
Per consensus, we list infobox and navbox entries essentially alphabetical. You know, Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360. But thanks to the Xbox One for at least a couple of upcoming games (i.e., Watch Dogs, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Assassin's Creed IV) the platforms should be listed as PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox One, Xbox 360. Kinda stupid, right? Shall we agree right here that we will make an exception, and make it primarily alphabetical, with a chronological twist to it? --Soetermans. T / C 11:57, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Besides numbers go before letters. That is how Microsoft Word does it.
TheUnknownNinjaNN2( Talk, Always willing to discuss this subject) 16:21, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Should it or should it not be hyphenated?
An example of it not being hyphenated is with the God of War series. Each of the game's manuals don't hyphenate. However, some say it should be. When looking at this article, Context-sensitive user interface, there are only 3 instances of it being hyphenated (the article's title, a sub-section title, and once inside a quote). Every other time it's used (which is about 10 times), there's no hyphen. -- JDC808 ♫ 03:15, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Is there some kind of dictionary we can consult? Also, is this one word or a two word phrase?
TheUnknownNinjaNN2( Talk, Always willing to discuss this subject) 22:43, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Do the articles in Category:Game console operating systems (extensive version histories with a little commentary) violate WP:GAMECRUFT #9? They read more like indiscriminate lists of updates than encyclopedic articles. I wanted to ask here before bringing it to an official channel. They've been around for a while, but I wasn't able to find any discussion about this after several searches. czar · · 17:19, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Warface was recently moved to Wikipedia talk:Warface because quote: "It's need to develop well before publishing." I haven't seen articles redirected to Wikipedia namespace before. Is this a new procedure that I just wasn't aware of? -- Mika1h ( talk) 20:43, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys,
Can someone help me? I was trying to edit the pro gamer template so that the games listed are automatically made cursive, but I can't seem to figure it out. Thanks. --Soetermans. T / C 13:45, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Are these not near-synonyms? S.G.(GH) ping! 16:59, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm in the process of converting the List of Apple II games into tables, such as has been done here and here. But I'd like some input. Since this is the first platform I've converted, I'm wondering what columns should be included. Since they're all for the Apple II, a "platforms" column is irrelevant. Some entries in the list have "(port)" listed next to them, but this seems a rather trivial detail. Any other ideas? Or should I just continue with the columns I have? Appreciate any input! — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 02:30, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
ME is the only series I've seen on WP thus far to lowercase its fictional alien race names to the in-universe style. Is there some consensus on this matter discussed elsewhere in the project?
Discussion at Talk:Illusive Man#Species capitalization czar · · 17:47, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
I am curious why this article got deleted. I thought lists were a valid topic to start an article. SharkD Talk 04:05, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I know this was already here, but we haven't got a new goal to replace the 10% C-Class. As well, it might be a good idea to display how many FAs and GAs we have on those goals. We could do 50% Start, 10% B, or 20% C. If you have any others, feel free to put those down. Darrman ( talk) 10:26, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Do you mind rephrasing that^? I don't know what half that stuff means. Are you saying that we need to get more into C-Class (whatever that is)?
TheUnknownNinjaNN2( Talk, Always willing to discuss this subject) 22:45, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Ok, is there any way we can bring this to the attention of the project members? How did we pick the goals there now? We could do the same thing now. It might be a good idea to vote for the goal. The choices could be 50% Start, 20% C, 10% B, as I suggested, or 80% High and Top-importance to C, as suggested in the above comment. We do need a new goal, after all. Darrman ( talk) 16:03, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
This source comes from Eurogamer. It discusses Xbox primary, and it also discusses failed attempts to make Resident Evil 4 Xbox-exclusive. You can find it valuable... or not, but I hope it helps improve the related articles. -- George Ho ( talk) 23:06, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Looking for a quick decision on this. DragonZero ( Talk · Contribs) 07:29, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
I've recently been working on List of video game crowdfunding projects, and so have been looking up and down Kickstarter the past few days. I wouldn't post a project here, unless I thought you guys would be genuinely interested in it - and that it could help Wikipedia.
This is the project - The Untold History of Japanese Game Developers. John Szczepaniak, a professional games journalist, who's work I've read and enjoyed in Retro Gamer, is proposing on travelling to Japan, hiring the best translator he can find - and then interviewing a load of developers to chronicle the history of Japanese games. It's essentially going to be a new reliable source, it could provide good English language coverage of important games that are poorly covered on Wikipedia.
If you happen to be a moneybags - if you pledge £500 (there are currently 3 remaining slots), he will dedicate at least 4 pages to the game of your choice. So if you're a big Crusader of Centy (I pulled this out of a hat) fan, and are desperate to flesh out its development section - get your wallet out. - hahnch e n 20:42, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone have a copy of Family Computer 1983-1994 (ファミリーコンピュータ 1983-1994), one of the definitive Famicom game catalogs? I'd like to use it for reference, if possible. Otherwise, I'm open for suggestions on how to get it. czar · · 06:34, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
None of these look notable to me, can you experts please advise? Giant Snowman 11:18, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks guys, all three nominated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Platform Racing, input welcome. Giant Snowman 12:51, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys,
When editing a VG article I always used take out the platform-specific distribution channel. For instance, a downloadable game available on PlayStation 3, platform should mention the console, media/distribution says either optical disc or digital distribution and release date says PSN. And then there is of course the article body. But just now Teancum re-added that bit, saying that there were discussion over this in the past, actually mentioning PSN, XBLA etc behind a specific platform. I have the fullest respect for Teancum, so I can only assume he was correct. However, I tried looking it up, but I'm not sure what to look for (distribution alone gives a lot of results). Can someone summarize that past discussion? Because to me it is too much, and it should be clear right away whether or not a game is only available in digital form. Thanks! --Soetermans. T / C 11:16, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
So, I've seen some editors arguing about this, and before I stepped in, I wanted to see if there was a prior consensus, or if we could build one on it now, regarding Allgame. Allgame is definitely deemed reliable as a source in general, and I don't dispute that at all. But what about as a review score? For instance, a user is trying to use this link to give Sonic 3 a 4.5/5 star rating in a review box. However, what is this score based on? There is no review or context, just a brief "description" of the game, and an unrelated star based numerical score.
I'm all for using it as a source in general, but I question whether or not we should be using these context-less review scores. Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 13:35, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
You're invited to join the discussion at Talk:Illusive Man#Request for comment. czar · · 03:06, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
The story so far...
The Game Maker article had a lot of content added to it, with a sizeable chunk of negative stuff as well. Content was added removed copy-and pasted, removed, added. Then a another user showed up (possibly a company representative) adds copy vio stuff, removes criticism, added other copy and paste stuff from another Wiki.
User asks for help saying that the negative info is being added by a user that was banned from the forum.
Anyway...
The article needs a serious going over, some of the references are to forums and Wikis, some of the content is not notable and the general layout and content could do with a cleanup as well. In short, it needs a serious going over chaps. -
X201 (
talk) 09:09, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
The company representative is back and re-adding removed content. This could develop into WP:OWN. - X201 ( talk) 09:02, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm currently working on List of Square Enix downloadable games, with the aim of taking it to FLC. Currently, I have it all in one big table, but another user has suggested that it would work better as seperate tables per platform ( like so). I like having it as one table so that you can sort everything by date or whatnot instead of piecing together multiple tables, but Jotamide thinks that its easier to parse as separate tables. I was basing the list off of List of Square Enix games, a featured list, but I don't know if that's a fair comparison since I wrote that one too. Does anyone else have an opinion on which way it should be? -- Pres N 22:55, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys,
Does anyone of you think Isaac Clarke is notable? Player017 thinks so, but I disagree. Right now the events of Dead Space are mentioned, and that's it. The character development section is just as the bit in the article on Dead Space, while there is no character reception or legacy or whatever. As far as I know, the pretty bland character of Clarke isn't particularly notable whatsoever. I think that a redirect is pretty obvious here. Input is much appreciated. --Soetermans. T / C 12:57, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Since Summer is around the corner, I think that we should try to take care of some backlog in our project:
So, if you can, please look over these and help out. GamerPro64 16:51, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I recently wrote the Diamond Trust of London article, and stuck {{ WikiProject Video games}} on its talk page, this was quickly followed up by another editor with links to the Indie and Strategy taskforces. These tasksforces are dead, the last talk page activity on those two taskforces were in August 2012 and January 2011 respectively.
Devil May Cry, March 2009. Castlevania, January 2010. Even though PlayStation saw some activity in May 2013, it's something that could be handled a lot better just on this main Wikiproject talk page. I think the vast majority of these task forces should be deleted and redirected towards this main page. I think our talk page templates should remove references to these mostly unwatched pages. If articles falling within these franchises are better served with specifically tailored article guidelines, they can be linked from the main project version. - hahnch e n 18:59, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
We need some help with a problem that has arisen regarding the move of the articles formerly known as "C1 NES TV" and "SF-1 SNES TV" to "C1 (television)" and "SF1 (television)". User:Despatche and I have been discussing the question and it's become clear that we need third party opinions at this point. The RfC can be found here. If anyone has any opinions on this issue, please weigh in. - Thibbs ( talk) 03:08, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I know we already have a subsection on VG-related AFDs. However, I wanted to request more discussion on this one, for two reasons:
Anyways, if anyone has anything to contribute, even if it was "No Serge, lets delete it", I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 21:07, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
An RfC has been started for the Sega Genesis talk page to garner outside opinions on this topic, as some feel "Sega Genesis" is an unsuitable name with a narrow worldview, considering the console was known as the "Sega Mega Drive" in the majority of the world and only known as the Genesis in one specific region, due to copyright issues. -- 85.211.130.47 ( talk) 08:49, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm really interested in the influences, which is a major point that is currently lacking on the games related articles on Wikipedia. I would be glad to see a section "Influences" for as many games as possible where the origins are explained and what the game itself influenced.-- Homei ( talk) 06:45, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello, |
Alright, I'm starting to sound like a broken record here, asking for advice on how to handle other users, but here I go again. User:MilitaryNut has taken it upon himself to make a bunch of templates full with color, trying to fall in line with the color schemes of logos and such. While I find the Template:Portal series pretty nice, Template:Left 4 Dead and Template:Doom series make my eyes hurt. Admin User:S@bre commented in his edit summary, to which MilitaryNut replied amically. Before I undo the rest of his edits, I noticed the 'Don't edit war over the colour of templates' guideline. Should we go by a template-by-template judgment? Or is there another consenus saying, 'nah, let's not do that' all together? --Soetermans. T / C 18:45, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
If the Left 4 Dead and Doom templates are stirring up issues, I'll just revert them to the standard-issue layout before a dispute happens. Just playing it safe. -- MilitaryNut ( talk) 23:17, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
As a matter of fact, look over all my edits and decide with the others. If any of my edits are not appropriate to Wikipedia, I'll be fine with anyone reverting my colouring to templates. Cheers. -- MilitaryNut ( talk) 23:26, 9 June 2013 (UTC) I really need to re-think my decisions on certain edits...
Trying to make a similar drive for WP:ANIME to have 25% of Anime and manga articles above stub or similar to that. Can someone help me make one? Lucia Black ( talk) 01:12, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello. I'm looking for an additional input on whether or not a chart violates WP:GAMECRUFT.
Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 02:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Hey, everyone, sorry to ask a second time, but it's been almost three weeks and I've received very little feedback. List of Sega 32X games is at WP:FLC, and I could really use some feedback. Supports, comments, whatever I can get. FLC looks to be pretty backlogged, so the quicker I can get some kind of consensus and work through the issues, the easier it'll be for this to get pushed through and add more featured content to the project. Thanks. Red Phoenix build the future... remember the past... 01:49, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured topics/StarCraft titles' retention period ends tomorrow with StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm, so if anyone wants to try to save the topic from being delisted, now would be the time.-- 十 八 10:46, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
No idea how to deal with this guy,
User:GVnayR. He was previously blocked for copying copyrighted content verbatim from sources such as Mobygames. It's obvious he thinks he's helping, in a
Bat-Mite sort of way. But he has dozens (hundreds?) of edits like these, adding unencyclopedic commentary to video game articles and other content:
He generally cites unreliable sources and presents opinions in those articles as facts. User has been asked repeatedly to fix up his contributions but to no avail. It's really frustrating since it becomes almost necessary to clean up after him. -- Jtalledo (talk) 10:55, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi, sorry for
reposting. However, I realised that the main talk could be a more appropriate place for asking questions:
Does
"we do not assess redirects" mean that WP:VG templates should be removed entirely from talk pages of redirects within the project's scope?
Moritz37 ( talk) 16:54, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion about the phrase "Steep Learning Curve" at Talk:Dwarf Fortress that could use another set of eyes. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 09:28, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you're aware, but WildStar (video game) was recently deleted under criteria G11. I'm not sure what the original article looked like (perhaps Masem can help there?), but as one of the major PC releases of 2013 and possibly the biggest MMO release this year, I felt it was important to have an article on the subject.
However, I'm unable to employ WP:SOFIXIT in this context - I am now a professional video games journalist, and working on this would be a conflict of interest.
I have, however, compiled a large amount of material from reliable sources including ZAM Network MMORPG.COM, Joystiq, IGN, Rock Paper Shotgun, Destructoid, PC Gamer, and VG247. This blend of general and specialist gaming media should support an article that easily passes the GNG.
Hope all this helps, and I look forward to seeing the results! Best, Gazi moff 02:26, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Sorry if the answer is obvious somewhere I haven't looked.
But are these sections about the game's development or the marketing campaign (or both)? Are WWE '13 or NBA 2K12, for instance, proper, mentioning announcements (with dates), promotion and all that about cover art? Doesn't seem to have anything to do with how the games were built, which "development" suggests to me. Something like BioShock or Elder Scrolls: Oblivion's are more what I'd imagine.
Any clarification is appreciated. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:41, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
I was working through some categories and came across Category:Planetarium Football Star which is an article about a football management game that has been miscreated as a category. Before moving it to article space, there needs to be a decision about whether it's notable or not - and I'm not the person to make that call! I'm guessing probably not, although they claim over 100k users. There's a related article at Planetarium Manager with similar notability concerns - seems to have been created by User:Pgames as a user page and then moved by User:Christian Hubbs to article space. Given that they are made by Planetarium Games this looks like a WP:CORPNAME doing WP:COI WP:ADVERTising - could someone take a look who knows more about video games than me? TIA. Le Deluge ( talk) 14:57, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
If anyone has some time, God of War II is at FAC. -- JDC808 ♫ 17:52, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Guys, I'm really starting to lose my cool with that uncivil rude person. This is annoying enough, but when you actively start with disruptive editing, I'm done. Overlinking to motion capture twice, unlinking to video game in the lead, undoing piped links [[Action-adventure game|action-adventure]]... And the fact that he only rarely writes down anything in the edit summary is also really getting on my nerve. Is there anything we can do about him and his attitude? --Soetermans. T / C 12:47, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
(Sorry for broken English) Hello! I found the
NA official page of Dragon Quest IX was redirected to Nintendo.com. However, some articles used a subpage of this site (
dqnine
There is an image of the PlayStation 2 up for Featured Picture status. If you can please Support or Oppose its candidacy here. GamerPro64 17:24, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Over at the requests talk page user Czar and I have agreed the lead paragraph needs a reword. We're looking for a consensus on the new lead and would like to hear any other opinions on it. Samwalton9 ( talk) 19:36, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
I've just removed Portal:Current events/Video gaming/In the news from Portal:Video games because it's hopelessly out of date. I don't visit Portal:Video games, but it still gets over 250 hits per day which is probably more than most personal games blogs. If someone fancies themselves a bit of a newsie, like putting out headlines, and commits to it, go update it and un-orphan it. Having a picture of Peter Molyneux on Portal:Video games for over two years straight is shockingly embarrassing. - hahnch e n 22:05, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
There is an ongoing discussion with User:Niemti in Talk:Zack Fair#Jesus Christ Denton regarding the addition of an image without content about it. The user appears to be quite informal just by reading the section title so more comments would calm down the situation. Tintor2 ( talk) 00:41, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
As I've mentioned in the discussion above, the In the news section of the Video Games Portal is now up to date, has been re-added to the portal main page, and I will be attempting to keep it current. If anyone else can give me a hand in monitoring and updating it, that would be great. Samwalton9 ( talk) 11:27, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
The usage of Virtual currency ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is up for discussion, see talk:digital currency -- 65.94.79.6 ( talk) 03:54, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
In regards to this edit to the Paperboy article, is it really necessary to list the foreign titles of a game in the lead, or anywhere else in the article, for that matter? I can understand including it there if it was a foreign game released in North America under an English title, but Paperboy is a North American game by a (at the time) North American company. I mean, should we list the Italian, Spanish and German titles too? How relevant is the foreign title to the subject matter? — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 02:12, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Can they be used as sources? I've been wondering about this, but wasn't sure if there would be any copyright issues. -- JDC808 ♫ 01:11, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I'll be reviewing Sonic the Hedgehog (1991 video game) in the next few days and I wanted to know if it is okay for the Plot and Gameplay section to be merged in a single section. I find it difficult to distinguish what parts of the section are considered Gameplay and which are part of the Plot. I wouldn't want the Gameplay parts to go unsourced, though. Thanks. ComputerJA ( ☎ • ✎) 18:19, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm wondering what (if anything) should be done with SubSpace (video game). A part of the article is about the original game, SubSpace. But the majority is about the development and running of fan-made servers and software. Of course, this is entirely unsupported by reliable sources, and the external links are mostly to copyright violations. I have a mind to cut the article back to be about the original game SubSpace and only that game, but I figured I'd get a few more opinions because it seems like this always ruffles a few feathers. Woodroar ( talk) 23:34, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Over the past week I've been attempting to clear out the article requests page which is severely backlogged. I've been through and checked every article, removing those I am sure wouldn't make a full article after searching for sources. It would be a big help towards the clearing if other other editors could help me take a closer look at the requests I've left, and help create the articles which have sufficient sources. I have left some possible sources next to most entries left on the requests page to help. Samwalton9 ( talk) 00:29, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
This game is called "Guilty". I can't find any proof of the existence of the titles "Innocent Until Caught 2: Presumed Guilty" or "Innocent Until Caught 2: Guilty". -- 93.217.213.158 ( talk) 03:38, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
Sega v. Accolade has been at WP:FAC for a couple of weeks now, with next to no support or even opposition except from one person who's since become a contributor to the article. This is one of the most influential cases in video game history, and the right to reverse engineer. Would anyone like to help me out by reading over the article and offering some feedback or maybe support? Thank you very much, and I do believe in reciprocity and would be glad to help out any other editor in return with their project reviews, including peer review, good article nom., featured article and list candidacy, etc. Red Phoenix build the future... remember the past... 22:16, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
I have revamped the game above and taken it to FAC. Comments are very welcome about it at the nom page. Thanks! — ΛΧΣ 21 02:26, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm a bit unhappy with Eggplant Wizard, which redirects to a section of Kid Icarus that doesn't mention him at all. I was thinking of retargeting it to List of Kid Icarus characters#Underworld Army, where he's a list item, but the character is also well known as an antagonist from Captain N: The Game Master. So retarget to Captain N: The Game Master#Major villains? So maybe it would be best to follow King Hippo and convert it to a standalone article. Think he would meet WP:FICT? I could take a stab at this, but I thought someone at this project might be better qualified. There's an older version of the article as a stub, but it's not much to go by. -- BDD ( talk) 19:47, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Hey, everyone. While looking over Characters of God of War to review it for GA status at WP:GAN, a discussion came up as to whether or not this is a list, and should simply be closed as such. As the reviewer who put my name on it before this discussion came up, I'd like to ask for consensus on whether or not it should be treated as a list here before I make a decision. Thanks, Red Phoenix build the future... remember the past... 17:01, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
User:69.122.114.246 is changing the dates on a vast number of articles. Can't see any evidence of references, they leave no edit summary, they're also editing List of PlayStation 2 games. Don't think its vandalism, but have no idea where they're getting the dates from either. - X201 ( talk) 21:23, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
And they're adding Flagicons to List of PlayStation 2 games, NOOOOO! - X201 ( talk) 07:34, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Partly as a result of the recent dispute over RetroArch, I decided to start looking through the other emulator pages we have categorized or templated, and I'm seeing a lot of cruft. I've started exhaustively nominating numerous emulator articles for merge to List of video game emulators. I could use your help. :)
To be clear, I'm only nominating articles that clearly don't have proper sources in them. Most of them have been tagged for years for needing citations or not meeting notability criteria, so for them it's mostly cleanup. In a couple isolated cases, articles do appear to be pretty complete and just need sources, so I'm not tagging those yet. — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 16:06, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
All but two AfDs have been moved to proposed merges, continue discussion here: Talk:List of video game emulators#2013 merge discussion czar · · 21:09, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
I think that I fixed the biggest problems with MAME. It had been highlighted as a poor article in a few places (such as talk:RetroArch and WP:ANI). It could still use some attention, but it at least establishes notability and cites a few non-primary sources now. I was quite surprised that it had been rated B-class (self-evaluated by a seemingly retired editor), so I downgraded it to C-class. If someone wants to reevaluate it to B-class, that's fine with me (just revert my last edit to the talk page), but I'm not convinced that it's quite at that level yet. There are some more comments on the talk page, but it's mostly just me talking to myself. Mostly, I just wanted to give a heads-up that I changed the rating and did some emergency policy compliance work so that other people don't race to the page and try to do the same thing. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 21:47, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi everyone! Hope you're doing well. Some of you may be familiar with The Legend of Zelda: Hyrule Historia, a book on The Legend of Zelda series. I recently changed the page from a redirect into a full article and expanded it out. I would very much appreciate your help in improving the article further.
Since I recently created the article and I think it's a topic worthy of broad recognition, I have nominated a snippet from the article for Did You Know? If you would like to contribute, here's what you can do:
I appreciate your help on this! CaseyPenk ( talk) 17:16, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
We are having some difficulty determining what to do with {{ Jack}}. Most importantly, we are trying to determine whether Jack the Giant Killer and Jack and the Beanstalk should have separate templates. Please comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fictional characters#Template:Jack.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 15:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
At first I mentioned Machinima.com knly being known as just "Machinima" in both its site and rights reserved, but then I also noticed GameRankings in which the site presents itself as "GameRankings.com" I find this inconsistency very important as we have dozens of articles referring to "GameRankings.com" as just "GameRankings" and im unsure of how many times Machinima has been used but it could be bigger than what I imagine. Point is: how many sites do we present them innacurately? Im sure there are more sites that dont refer themselves by their website url and some that do and we dont have a proper naming convention for these to name them properly. Lucia Black ( talk) 22:05, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
My point is we should add a more distinct naming convention for these sites if there isnt one already. And salvidrim.net doesn't really apply unless it linked to a site with the logo "Salvidrim.net" lets not add vague inacurate hypothetical examples for the sake of sarcasm. And Machinima still an issue too. So it would be great if the discussion wasnt shot down so quickly. Lucia Black ( talk) 23:49, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
That and its plastered over the site aswell. Still, missing the point. Can we not focus on just GameRankings(.com) (which is what you implied by simply agreeing with salvidrim). Im trying to find or create a rule so that it doesnt seem so inconsistent. Lucia Black ( talk) 02:56, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
If I say "missing the point" then your missing the point. It was made clear, but not adressed is what im referring to. And even then I think its unanimous that any site known as X.com/.net/.org etc. Will obviously use it without the ".com" but we dont know if its easier or just they would like to be known with the link. Which would seem why they have their logo with a ".com" relevant. Lucia Black ( talk) 03:27, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Lucia, is the general point of your post: "company/person/website X calls themselves Y, Wikipedia should call them Y as well?"? - X201 ( talk) 15:34, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
@Serge, the problem no ine addresses it. Regardless if one weretto disagree if it was an issue, the disagreement isnt based on the entire issue, its based on nitpicking specific examples (initially).
@X201, my point is we need more consistent naming conventions. Machinima.com doesnt really promote itself as machinima.com and gamerankings does. Whether they call themselves is different if they are known as something else. Lucia Black ( talk) 20:54, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Im concerned about things being inconsistent when it comes to naming conventions of articles relating to websites. If two articles share the same situation but one can use the ".com" while the other doesnt. I'm not going to delve into the IGN example because it just makes it sound like theres something else. Im more concerned on how accurate consistent we xan make a naming conventions for website articles so that moving articles xan be done more quickly or dismissed more quickly. It all seems to be done at a case by case pace. Lucia Black ( talk) 00:41, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm requesting anyone from this thread to join in the discussion of the RfC in the GameCube talk page since the official name is Nintendo GameCube. Thank you.-- Arkhandar ( talk) 00:38, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
While going through Sega Game Gear, which I'm thinking about making my next project, I found this source on the article: http://www.play-asia.com/image/content/gameplan5.pdf . It's a magazine scan, but not a lot of information is provided and I can't figure out what gaming magazine this might be from. Does anyone recognize it, by any chance? Red Phoenix build the future... remember the past... 00:59, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if everyone is aware of this, but apparently the banned user G-Zay ( talk · contribs) is back, this time as ArchadianJudge ( talk · contribs). Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 04:26, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
If anybody has some spare time, God of War II is at FAC. It currently has 3 supports and no opposes, but the last comment was on July 1. I don't want this nomination to be archived for lack of interest. -- JDC808 ♫ 04:32, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Is these okay for GA or FA:
I read this 1UP.com interview with Hiroyuki Ito before but G-Zay's newest editing spree got me thinking about the battle system designer of FF1 (1987) again. The article's introductory paragraph says "Ito has been involved with nearly the full span of the series, helping to design the combat system for the very first game 25 years ago." Later, the interview asks the following questions:
Now I'm just not sure if Ito is talking about the first game or rather the series in general as he also mentions that he was inspired by the NFL when he designed the battle system he's referring to in his answer. Some things just don't add up if he's talking about FF1:
All this makes me believe that in the 1UP.com interview, Ito was talking about the Active Time Battle system and his great influence on the series' battle systems since FF4. I'm rather split on the issue, but leaning more towards Kawazu as battle system designer of FF1. Any other opinions? Xiomicronpi ( talk) 17:18, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
I was looking for possible sources for retro flight-sim game Bomber, but they are not so easy to find. I initially wrote this stub using just the review from Dragon magazine a few years ago, with the intent to (eventually) come back and flesh it out more. I know from the review that it was published by Inline Design for the Macintosh, and uses a system called HyperCard. I looked around on Google and found a page at VideoGameGeek which shows that it was developed by a company called Deadly Games, which also released the game in 1995 as part of a 4-pack CD ROM, and released a related/retitled/sequel/not sure what called "Bomber III: Flak Alley" in 1997. There is also apparently a Datormagazin review, but I don't know how to make use of that (and I also don't speak Swedish). Anyone have any other help for this one? BOZ ( talk) 03:29, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi everyone. Console wars has been tagged with possible original research since 2007, and being outdated since 2009. It either needs some serious love, or its major content sections should be merged into more appropriate individual articles. I understand the general idea behind having a central article on the concept of console marketing battles, but (a) this approach needs constant maintenance, (b) it doesn't correspond to a specific topic or event, and (c) as it is right now, the article is in pretty bad shape. Any recommendations on what we should do with it? — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 23:57, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
There are chunks of it that I can use as the starting point for something that I've been planning, but never got around to. I've taken a copy of the article and put it here ( User:X201/Console wars) - X201 ( talk) 07:42, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I recently stumbled upon Pokemon-Epic of Time. Beside its inconsistent naming, the content of the article seems rather dubious. Doing a (very) quick search, I didn't find any results on the new game. The only reference to the game has been created by the author of the "Epic of Time" article referencing to it as a rumour [2]. Getting to the point: how to proceed? Since I'm not really into Pokémon and its game releases (...and the deletion process here), I don't know whether it "obviously" falls under the G3 criterion for speedy deletion or should be treated in a different way. Moritz37 ( talk) 19:14, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
As this game now has over 60 million users and has set some records for multiple simultaneous participation:
It is starting to become obvious that an in-game economy article explaining how these internal-to-game economies work may be useful.
World of Tanks' game economy, particularly the use of experience, free experience, credits or 'silver' and (generally real money) 'gold' in the game, has been widely emulated by other freemium games.
Accordingly, this key notable feature of WoT is now carefully elaborated so that it's clear to game designers, cultural observers, economists, addictive game psychologists, as well as potential players, just what you can do for free and what you can't. That covers almost everyone who might want to read this article.
Sections on features only of interest to endgame players such as Clan Wars have been cut back. That and version history could be cut back a lot more. The main reason to keep a version history is to elaborate the reasons for the changes, in terms other than those used by the game vendor.
More references could be added but the material is all very easily verifiable.
A player of this game would find it instantly obvious what was and what was not instantly verifiable, so best if someone with a little familiarity with the game has a look for that purpose. And to double check if a casual player or observer would find the gold economy detail interesting.
Someone with no interest in the game should assess the Clan Wars, version history and other elements that seem to be of little interest to casual readers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.11.94.174 ( talk) 19:03, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
We are having a significant problem at this article. This IP user has been adding large amounts of non-notable, uncited WP:GAMECRUFT to the article, some of it even venturing into original research, and reverting editors who remove the new additions. May I remind people that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a game guide. -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 03:22, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
While I've not got much inclination to do it myself, this article needs work. The references are a shambles, and the article seems a little...well, unfinished for something around this long, even for an unreleased film. I think it comes under the scope of this project, but if it doesn't could someone redirect this to the appropriate project. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 12:07, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Please come and help us build consensus on this. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 17:27, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Would this article fit in the wikiproject? Bespoke Arcades ~~ Sintaku Talk 11:41, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
John Marston | |
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' Red Dead' character | |
Created by | Rockstar Games |
I've been wondering something, and this seems like the best place to ask it. I want to know the best way to make an article on a list of video game characters.
To the right of this paragraph, you'll see what part of the list looks like in the List of Red Dead Redemption characters article, and a similar thing is in the List of Grand Theft Auto IV characters article. However, in other articles, such as the List of Uncharted characters one, there seems to be no such infobox. Therefore, I was wondering if the infobox should be removed from some of the aforementioned articles (and saved for sole articles about characters themselves, such as Lara Croft, Crash Bandicoot, etc.), and the information could be placed in a paragraph about the character themselves? Or should the infobox stay in the list?
Thank you in advance. -- Rhain1999 ( talk) 02:40, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Also, I'm currently in the midst of making a list of characters for L.A. Noire, under my workspace (find it here), and I was wondering if the descriptions for the characters so far are too long, and if they shouldn't contain so much information on the plot. Should I focus more on specifics of the character (personality, physical appearance, etc.)? Thanks again. Rhain1999 ( talk) 03:59, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi everyone! Two weeks ago, I ran into some trouble updating the JSON rating data for the great Rater tool that some of you use. I tried to add "Disambig" to the available rating options, but it didn't really work out. Here's how far I had got: [3]. It seems that you can easily choose between displaying no, few and all class options. I haven't found a way to add a single rating class to the default option, though. Maybe some of you can help me sort this out, here's the data formatting doc and here's the source code.
PS: As the tool seems to be relatively popular among you, I think it would be a good idea to include it at the WP:VG/Assessment#Assessment Tools section.
Moritz37 ( talk) 17:32, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Spotted this new template being added in a couple places. It may have potential, but the current state needs a lot of work, if anyone could chime in on the talk page: Template:Video gaming industry in the United States -- ferret ( talk) 02:42, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
It's been nearly three years since the declined move discussion for Sephiroth (Final Fantasy) to Sephiroth. Sephiroth is a disambiguation with only has four terms: one of which is an unnotable term for Tales of the Abyss and another is for Sefira at Counting of the Omer, which is kind of a long shot for Sephiroth. I'm wondering if a consensus can be built to bring up this argument again. DragonZero ( Talk · Contribs) 09:28, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
As the title says, two very short articles; merge them, expand them, Prod them or delete them? We have Shrek n' Roll and Screwjumper!. Shrek could probably be merged into another Shrek article, not sure what to do with Screwjumper though. - X201 ( talk) 08:18, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Could someone visit List of multiplayer online battle arena games? I am at three revert. An editor keeps adding non-notable custom maps to the list. In response to telling him to use RS, he linked to a download site.... -- ferret ( talk) 14:14, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
There's some emulators that clearly have enough notability to have pages, many that clearly don't, and a lot in the middle. What should be done? I fear that if you strictly apply the 3rd party notability standard, then a lot of pages for emulators would simply be turned into redirects.
Also, what would classify as a reliable third party source to give notability to emulators? Most of them might not get much more press than a few blog posts, or an article on an emulation news site. They will largely be ignored by the main stream media. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 01:08, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
So far I've made the pages for Mednafen and RetroArch redirect to the List of video game emulators. A developer for Retroarch left a very strongly worded reply on my talk page, and then reverted it. Now, there is a few sources for that. There is a link from the Guardian which recommends Retroarch. Guardian is a reliable source that can establish notability. Lifehacker I think is a blog thing, I'm not really sure if it counts. What do you guys think? I think it's a borderline case. If there were a few more sources, I say it should stay for sure. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 06:24, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Masem, don't think emulators apply for any special GNG treatment. They should have reliable independent sources and be the subject of several, such as WP:VG/RS. — HELLKNOWZ ▎ TALK 10:10, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
On the civility front, I believe I've made a little progress with this editor over on Talk:RetroArch - if nothing else, I hope I've convinced him that Harizotoh9 isn't (likely to be) one of his rivals, and that maybe he can take a more constructive approach to improving the article than he chose at first. Here's hoping the effort was worth it. — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 17:38, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
In any case, there's a Wikia devoted entirely to emulation. This is probably the most appropriate place for most emulation articles, especially the ones that fail to meet notability standards.
-- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 20:47, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Just in case anyone's interest, this IP editor finally got himself blocked yesterday after apparently going completely insane. As of now, his block expires in a week, so I expect that sometime next weekend, we'll be hearing from him again. But in the meantime, I think we can get back to actually working on this section of articles - both RetroArch and Higan (emulator) either need some serious help with sources and notability, or should be merged to the main list article. — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 20:55, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Please continue this discussion at the proposed merge: Talk:List of video game emulators#2013 merge discussion czar · · 21:09, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
So, it seems that there is a pretty clear consensus that most of these need to be merged. While I've done many redirects in my day, I haven't done many merges...and there's a number of items that need to be merged...so I was wondering if someone could assist with this? Sergecross73 msg me 12:51, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
There is apparently a review in Datormagazin for Bomber, but I don't know how to make use of that (and I also don't speak Swedish). Can anyone please help out with that? BOZ ( talk) 03:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I'm looking to upload a logo for the Cube World article, but having failed to find one anywhere reliable online, I thought about using the in-game logo. I took a quick look in the files for the game and have found a suitable logo there, I just wondered if it's suitable to upload this or not? Samwalton9 ( talk) 12:28, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
There seems to be a minor edit war going on in Template:Nintendo_developers over whether a company who makes one or more games that are exclusively for a Nintendo console should be considered a second party. Currently companies like Square Enix, Sega, Capcom, and Atlus (who I would consider to be third party developers) are being listed as Nintendo second parties, along with that template on their page. Could we get some consensus over the term second party and whether it should apply to the companies listed. 03:31, 18 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Demeteloaf ( talk • contribs)
So I'm trying to get Beyond Good & Evil to Featured Article status for November and there are a few things that need to be done before I submit it to FAC. Can I get some assistance in taking care of the citation needed tags and looking over the prose? GamerPro64 16:45, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Video gaming in the United States needs improvement any willing to help Dwanyewest ( talk) 01:19, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
I need some outside input on the correct article name for this game. It was originally located at Space Quest: The Sarien Encounter but was recently moved to Space Quest: Chapter I - The Sarien Encounter. I started a discussion here. Thanks. — Torchiest talk edits 13:25, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Tomorrow, July 25th, F-Zero GX will be up on the main page as Today's Featured Article. Expect some Captain Falcon tributes to be had. GamerPro64 21:19, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Through this way, I inform there is a discussion at WT:Disambiguation about partially disambiguated titles, known as " PDABs". This subguide of WP:D affects articles in this WikiProject, some examples are covered by WP:NCVG. There you can give ideas or thoughts about what to do with this guideline. Note this discussion is not to modify any aspect of NCVG. Thanks. Tbhotch. ™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 00:33, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
An IP editor has contested that the GA-nominated Sega CD should be renamed to "Mega-CD" and disagrees with the consensus regarding the Genesis/Mega Drive articles and titles from the RFC a month or so ago. He also claims that the article shows a "North American" bias, which I disagree with. We could use some input from VG project members on this matter in the hopes it can be speedily resolved. Red Phoenix build the future... remember the past... 16:14, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
I would like to point out that no consensus was ever reached on the Mega Drive/Genesis talk page 94.172.126.154 ( talk) 18:02, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
The article is named "Sega CD" In the infobox the "Sega CD" logo is shown before the "Mega CD" when the systems were released the other way round with the "Mega CD" being released first, the Infobox also shows a "Genesis" with a "Sega CD" attached which is fine but it should also show a "Mega Drive" with a "Mega CD" attached.
As for the sources.
Source 01 is from Dave Beuscher of allgame.com, an American site and an American Writer.
Source 02 is from Steven L. Kent an American writer.
Source 03 is from Blake Snow of gamepro.com, an American site and an American Writer.
Source 04 is a link to a scan of the Sega-CD manual, Which I assume has been published without Sega's permission.
Source 05 is from Scott Alan Marriot of allgame.com an American site and an American Writer.
Source 06 is from Scott Alan Marriot of allgame.com again an American site and an American Writer.
Source 07 is from Scott Alan Marriot of allgame.com again an American site and an American Writer.
Source 08 is from Levi Buchanan of ign.com an American site and an American Writer.
Source 09 is from Jeremy Parish of 1up.com an American site and an American Writer.
Source 10 is from Scott Alan Marriot of allgame.com again an American site and an American Writer.
Source 11 is Man!ac Magazine a German publication finally.
Source 12 is from ign.com an American site.
Source 13 is from EGM an American Magazine
Source 14 is from Weekly Famicom Tsushin a Japanese Publication finally.
So out of 14 sources 12 are from American writers and American sites, 1 is from a non English European source and one is from a Japanese source this shows the article has a heavy North American bias and is sourced and written from a North American viewpoint. While each of these sources alone are fine, except the potentially copyright infringing Scan of a Sega manual, used together at the expense of European and Asian sources makes the article one sided and defiantly not suitable for good article status. 94.172.126.154 ( talk) 19:16, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Please come and review the article, it needs more reviewers so it can be passed or failed. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 16:49, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Please add your comments at the above so we can add another great game in our project to the list of the best on Wikipedia! Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 21:42, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
New article at FAC, God of War: Ghost of Sparta (God of War II was promoted). -- JDC808 ♫ 05:58, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Note Arkham asylum has been up since July 6, so it will be getting closed soon if not imminently. If you have been thinking of commenting and not gotten around to it now is the time. Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 18:27, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
I am not a member of WikiProject Video Games and I'm not a gamer. I am doing work on cleaning up the wiki category Category:Pages with no translate target where the English Wikipedia article has an Expand fill-in-the-blank template on it but doesn't point to the article in the foreign-language Wikipedia for it, making it harder to generate a Google Translate of the article from the foreign language into English. One of those pages happens to be " Guild hosting service" where there's an Expand French tag at the top but no link to the French Wikipedia article about the matter. I am not able to find the article in the French Wikipedia, so I was wondering if anybody on WikiProject Video Games knew what the French word is for "guild hosting service", please.
Question: What is the French word for "guild hosting service"?
Thank you in advance. -- Buspirtraz ( talk) 15:58, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
I generally like to use infoboxes in my software articles that show both the icon for the program (when such a thing exists) and a screen shot. However, infobox vg doesn't have an icon. Is this something that could be added? Maury Markowitz ( talk) 19:55, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
image
tag. Screenshots, however, are usually excluded from the infobox. As far as I know, that's based on
this discussion a while back.
Moritz37 (
talk) 20:33, 26 July 2013 (UTC)Is there any reliable database about video game release dates (especial per-2000 video games' NA/EU release date)?-- Antivirus 09 ( talk) 07:53, 28 July 2013 (UTC)