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I wonder if improving this article is needed. Hahnchen raised concerns about its criteria as too broad or "bastardized". While the list is decent to read, there are other worse games than listed ones. -- George Ho ( talk) 23:28, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
List of Game of the Year awards survived an AfD (disclosure, I NAC'd it) conditional on a number of improvements. It's an important article but it needs a good clean up and possibly a split into List of Game of the Year awards (board games) and List of Game of the Year awards (video games). Cabe 6403 ( Talk• Sign) 09:42, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:List of video games notable for negative reception, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, PantherLeapord ( talk) 10:57, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
I have opened a move discussion at Template talk:Infobox VG character to move it to Template:Infobox video game character. Please comment. -- Izno ( talk) 15:29, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
This article has been nominated for deletion for the 2nd time, entry here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Halo multiplayer maps (2nd nomination). No consensus was reached on the first nomination. The1337gamer ( talk) 19:03, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Recently, I reviewed Fortress and passed it as a GA, which was once a part of this Good Topic, but that's beside the point. Even if Fortress was readded, wouldn't the topic also need to include Vaan and Balthier to satisfy WP:WIAFT criterion 1(d) for completeness? Should the topic be taken to WP:FTRC and discussed there?-- 十 八 22:53, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to request anyone interested to participate in a dispute over the inclusion of voice actors at the above article. I included the actors in a similar way to Batman: Arkham City and other game articles in the style of "charactername ( actor name)", only a handful of actors names, but a user repeatedly removes the content even when sourced, raising different excuses each time, and since I am on my 3rd revert and he is on his 4th, its clear he will not be stopping any time soon, and since the dispute includes only 2 editors, it requires additional voices to end it one way or another, as I feel he will just continue to edit war if the content is restored by myself. Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 22:58, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm floating this by users here: Just Dance 4 has become a game guide, with its exhaustive list of songs. Should those be removed? Why, if we were to do so, would those list articles for Rock Band (video game) ( List of songs in Rock Band) and other music video games not also be removed? I was going to be bold, but I figured, why not ask the project. In other words, how do these lists not fail WP:VGSCOPE #6? -- Izno ( talk) 00:28, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Heads up: there's a character designer discussion over at WT:SE#Character designer question. Input from project members would be appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 17:46, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Since there are some concerns about the recent activity by Niemti, who is currently the subject of an RFC, I think we should delete these categories while we're still waiting for an AN thread about the proposal to ban him from the WP:VG subpages. The articles need information about the designer and the categories are unnecessary per Tintor2 and PresN. The possibility of a WP:CFD was not discounted by ProtoDrake, one of the people involved in the discussion. Does anyone have thoughts about this? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 23:33, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
I've been doing research into a Japanese video game series by a development team called Generation XTH under a company called Experience (neither of which seem to have a Wikipedia entry here, but I'll get to that later). I'm currently interested in writing an article for one of their games called Meikyuu Cross Blood Infinity, a PS Vita port of an earlier game called Meikyuu Cross Blood (the former is to be published by another company called Cyberfront). However, I can't understand from the Japanese Wiki articles as to what the name of the series actually is. Since MCBI has yet to be released, should I make an article for the series instead? If so, where can I find good sources? Alternatively, should I make an article for Experience/Generation XTH? Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 14:57, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Since ProtoDrake ( talk · contribs) has raised a point that the issue with Niemti ( talk · contribs), who is currently the subject of an ongoing RFC has not been brought up at AN/ANI yet, and with the discussion of a possible ban on this user from the project now stored in the archives, I think that this is really the time to discuss the best course of action to ban Niemti from WP:VG to minimize disruption in video game articles. Personally, I would suggest that a thorough summary of the evidence should be created before taking this up to AN or ANI and that multiple people will need to check and agree that evidence shows a significant problem; really bad results will occur when a report is taken to AN/ANI prematurely - really good evidence should be needed first, with a few clear cases that onlookers can understand. Thoughts or ideas on how to proceed with this? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 03:29, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
( edit conflict) As much as I don't approve of his behavior, and tire of always having to intervene in the trouble he's always creating, (my irritation being directed towards him, not the ones who ask me for help) it seems like when its presented to higher ups, like the Admin outside of WP:VG, they seem tolerant of his antics as long as his behavior continues to be more of the equivalent of "pushing, shoving, and grumbling" instead of full on "assaults and tirades" he did more when he was originally indef blocked. I'll likely support actions proposed to be taken against him, but I wouldn't be a "driving force" unless more serious infractions happens (like blockable ones). As is, I think discussions are going to just be the endless arguing circles of "Well I think he's bad enough to be banned from X", with the other half saying "Well I think not" that we had the last time he was taken to ANI. (which happened around the same time of the start of his RFC/U.) Sergecross73 msg me 16:39, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
All right, I've boldly created an RFC/U subpage at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Niemti/Additional Evidence. Please add entries there. If it is the wrong place, it should be easy enough to simply transfer the evidence to a new page. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 22:26, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm guessing that what is meant by a "ban from the project", is a "topic ban from video game-related articles", and it should be worded as such. As SergeCross wrote above: an attempt at a full community ban was made at ANI some time ago, and despite almost universal support from video game editors (and I believe, majority support overall), the number of detractors from "outside of WP:VG" (as Serge put it) was sufficient that it was closed as "no consensus" (this despite the fact that his old, consensus-supported community ban was overturned by the unilateral actions of one admin, without consensus; hey, welcome to Wikipedia). That said, even among his supporters there was support for lesser sanctions (explicitly including a topic ban from video games and/or good articles) so perhaps that would have a better chance of success. bridies ( talk) 12:25, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, everyone! It takes time to investigate, so the investigation will take up to a few weeks or so. If anyone wants to add further evidence, please do so at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Niemti/Additional Evidence. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 05:23, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Hey, when I'm citing sources from IGN, what should be listed as the "work" and what should be listed as the "publisher"? The way I approach this is that "IGN" (the website) is the "work", and that "IGN Entertainment" (the company) is the publisher. I got this from the copyright notice at the bottom of the website, which says "Copyright 1996-2013, IGN Entertainment, Inc.". Is this the correct way to cite IGN sources?-- FutureTrillionaire ( talk) 14:10, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
It won't matter for FAC etc, but in a lot of magazines they list the publisher by name (not company), not sure if its a UK only requirement, I'm fairly certain its a legal one. - X201 ( talk) 12:40, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
I've started trying to clean up this page and I'm trying to determine some sort of selection criteria for inclusion so we can establish what should/shouldn't make it into the page. If people could pop over to Talk:List of Game of the Year awards#Selection criteria and offer some thoughts it'd be much appreciated. Cheers, Cabe 6403 ( Talk• Sign) 10:09, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Now Arkham City is up to FAC I'd like to look at taking Asylum to the next level as well, but I don't have as much free time anymore with my job, is anyone willing to collaborate on this? Or just dig up some reliable sources for me to use in expanding it? It needs a little more work than I had assumed. Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 20:44, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Template_talk:Infobox_video_game#discussion_about_new_changes One editor seems to have made changes without any discussion, and is now going around removing things from infoboxes. Please join the discussion there. Dream Focus 15:13, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Its good to have basic development team should be allowed while all the details be listed in the development section. Lucia Black ( talk) 20:51, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I just want to make an important announcement: the Halo featured topic has been delisted. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 23:03, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Flashback (video game)#Flashback Origins. -- Trevj ( talk) 14:36, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Why isn't the "version" number appearing in the infobox? For example, God of War: Ascension. I have it formatted correctly (at least I'm pretty sure I do), but I don't know why it's not appearing. There's another article I edit and it appears just fine. -- JDC808 ♫ 06:24, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if all games are doing this now, but it seems as if game's are moving towards having digital versions of the instruction manual as opposed to physical versions (PlayStation All-Stars and God of War: Ascension for example). Game manuals are often used as a source for the gameplay sections of these articles. How should we go about sourcing a digital version of the manual? The same way as the physical version? Is there a ref template for sourcing digital books? -- JDC808 ♫ 22:13, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Putting an archive link in would be a very good idea too. In preparation for the day they take them offline, or re-organise the file path. - X201 ( talk) 08:51, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
After Futuretrillionaire quick-failed Jill Valentine due to sourcing concerns as explained at RSN, a discussion about GANs has started over at WT:GAN#Problem: reviewers often not knowing/understanding policies/guildelines, and/or choosing to "ignore" them. Your comments would be appreciated there. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 17:07, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
I would like to request a third opinion at Template talk:Ghost in the Shell#Heading "redundant". For context, see my preferred version of the template and Ryulong/Lucia Black's preferred version. Thanks. -- Izno ( talk) 22:26, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
We heard about this in February. Anomie has a list of all 1up, Gamespy, and UGO links currently on Wikipedia. What's the status on archiving these links? Is there a bot that can automate that for us? What are some action items we can do to get this sorted out, preferably sooner before the actual shutdown? Axem Titanium ( talk) 17:02, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Since Wikipedia doesn't allow gaming guide, would it be okay to move the gaming guide content from the old Wikipedia 2004-2007 revisions to my wiki, Video Games Wiki (a wiki supposed to be like Wikipedia, but focused upon video games). Link: http://videogames.shoutwiki.com. I'd be happy to have a reply if I can merge gaming guide content to my video games wiki from here. Thanks. Gaz and Gaming Fan ( talk) 22:46, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi there,
I've proposed a split of the TRS-80 article; one article covering the original-architecture machines (Model I, III and 4) and one covering the overall history and use of the brand (which was subsequently applied to many unrelated architectures).
I'd appreciate more feedback before going ahead with anything, and as the article is part of WikiProject Video Games, it seems appropriate to ask here.
More details and discussion can be found at Talk:TRS-80/Archives/2015#Split_proposal. Thanks. Ubcule ( talk) 21:03, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm just leaving this message here for anyone who might be interested. A new non-WMF wiki called Wikilevels has been started by some Wikipedia (and Wikimedia) users, as a wiki focused on video game guides. Given that this is the Wikiproject for Video games, and given that I'm part of it and I find myself interested in that proposal, I assume that leaving this note here will let other possibly-interested users aware of this. Regards. — Ṟ Ṉ 19:27, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Would somebody mind having a word with Special:Contributions/50.82.22.60? They're obviously well-intentioned, but adding strategy guides to articles, and right now my brain can't handle the light touch needed to avoid WP:BITE (i.e. not scaring away a potential editor while discouraging or re-channeling their current efforts). ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 03:24, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
Done - X201 ( talk) 17:01, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
I was wondering this when looking through the category labelled "Literary trilogies" and List of film series with three entries. There are many games that form trilogies, whether it is three games forming a self-contained story within a larger series (The three-game Lightning Saga within the Final Fantasy series, the original three Sands of Time games in the Prince of Persia franchise) or a set of three games as three games (the three numbered God of War games, the Mass Effect trilogy). Why not a list or category or article showing these various game trilogies, whether they are called "trilogies" or not. Any thoughts as to whether it's practical or useful? -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 19:07, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
In videogame infoboxes like the on at Mr. Nutz. I have noticed the platforms/consoles are in one list of their own, then underneath the release dates of the different platforms is listed in a separate list. Which basically means all the same consoles are listed twice only one with dates next to them and one without; in the case of this game at least the list above of platforms is completely useless/redundant and makes infoboxes a little longer then they need to be. There appears to be a dislike to making boxes longer than they need to be, eg with many credits talked about above. Is there a way we could put platforms and release dates in one list instead of two, should we? I imagine there would be games that it wouldn't work for very well, or perhaps at all, like if a game is released for all platforms on the same date, it may end up showing the same date several times instead of one, or if for old games especially the platforms may be known but not the exact release date so it may be hard to display. However I'm sure this is a perfect idea for games such as the one I mentioned Mr. Nutz and others with infoboxes like it, even if not for all games. If it is already possible to do this, or if it has been discussed somewhere within the 90+ archives of this talk page, forgive me I wasn't aware. What are peoples views on this? Carlwev ( talk) 10:34, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
When ive been skimming through the old pokemon games, specifically the "X &Y" type series and notice certain articles are bundled together when it looks like they can potentially be their own article. Specifically, Pokemon Emerald, Pokemon Black2 & White2. Overall, i think these articles are already long enough and i doubt splitting said topics wont harm the article in becoming GA or featured status. Does anyone else see this problematic? Lucia Black ( talk) 06:37, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
I disagree. Pokemon Ruby, and Pokemon Saphire are basically the same game and considered part of a whole installment, but overall any other game that spun out from its initial series cant possibly be considered too similar to be spun out even if the changes are there. They hold their own notability. Lets not forget that these are RPGs, meaning plot is a significance to how games differ. This is why Link to Past and Link to the Past & four swords was such a heated debate on whether being merged. At least Black2 and White2 are direct sequels, so it doesnt matter if gameplay is exactly the same. The thing is, these are already notable on their own, but for some reason the wikiproject prefers them merged and underdeveloped. such as listing scores instead of concrete statements from reviews. AT LEAST Black2 and White2 should gain their own article. Its a direct sequel. Lucia Black ( talk) 16:41, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
the problem isnt gamecruft exactly. If theres enough info for a split, and enough differences between them, than why not? The thing i see with pokemon articles and several other articles is that they prefer merging rather than expanding knowing the topic is notable. Lucia Black ( talk) 18:10, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
There's a request for comment going on at Talk:Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children regarding what we should do to streamline the plot summary. The discussion is at Talk:Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children#RfC: Plot summary in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 13:28, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
An edit war is currently in progress on the article, whether a section on the Modern Warfare mod should be included. I've opened up a discussion on the talk page, but Blahdy21 ( talk · contribs) has insisted on its inclusion. I cited the case of the twice-deleted Company of Heroes Eastern Front mod as a precedent as to why a section shouldn't be included. I'll put in a 3RR warning on the editor. Thanks!-- Eaglestorm ( talk) 14:40, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that this picture, which is also a Featured Picture, is tagged for this project. However I'm not certain if it should. What do you guys think? GamerPro64 17:21, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
I noticed a discussion on Google Custom Search of Reliable Sources in the archives. You may be interested to know that the same technique can be used inside WP by creating and using templates based on {{ Google RS}}. The same template technique should also work for search engines like Yahoo that apparently don't offer free Custom Search. With Google, you are limited to searching up to 32 sites at a time. LittleBen ( talk) 03:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
There is a Featured Picture nomination for an image of Robert Clotworthy, voice actor of Jim Raynor from the Starcraft series. If anyone is willing to Support or Oppose the nomination, it can be found here. GamerPro64 14:30, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
God of War is up fo FAC again if anyone would care to look it over. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/God of War (video game)/archive3. -- JDC808 ♫ 05:07, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
I've just made an edit on this last night after seeing some footage. Are there people here who have played the game? Feel free to expand. Thanks!-- Eaglestorm ( talk) 13:31, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
See Talk:Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon#Requested move, where it is proposed to move the article to Luigi's Mansion 2. EdJohnston ( talk) 04:06, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Garrett (character)#Archive links. Thanks. -- Izno ( talk) 14:21, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
FYI, there is a motion to close here and a ban proposal has just been added to AN here. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 00:25, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
[1].
Reps from MC revealed their weighting system and how it was determined at GDC today, and there's a lot of people "upset" in internet terms at the skewing as well as exactly how the weights were determined. (For example, Eurogamer above only get an average weight of 1, while some more fan-ish sites that fall outside our RS got higher).
In terms of our project and how we handle video games, I would say this should have zero impact. I've yet to see a MC aggregated score so inflated or deflated by a few reviews compared to the rest of the scores for a game; we're probably talking about the one or two percentage points at most that this scale would change games with widely mixed reception ala Duke Nukem Forever. It is still valuable as 1) a score that gives a rough judge of a game's reception that we ourselves cannot calculate per SYNTH, and 2) a good list of all reviews for the title - the equivalent of Rotten Tomatoes for films.
However, I would also caution - at least until MC explains their process and determination for review weighting - that in considering our reliable sources, we shouldn't consider MC's weights. One example is Giant Bomb, listed at a lower-than-average rating, despite the fact that the staff reviewers are experienced people. I would still consider GB to be a reliable source and a possible review source. -- MASEM ( t) 23:39, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Is vgmdb.net RS? It provides some useful information about video game OST, however, it seems a user-contribution database? And it's not available in WP:VG/RS#Checklist...-- Today's FA is ? (film) 04:45, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
A new user has (badly) re-created Wikipedia:WikiProject_GTA and tagged a load of GTA articles with a GTA project template. The previous GTA Project was closed due to inactivity and converted to a WP:VG Task Force. So, does anyone want to start the stopwatch? - X201 ( talk) 12:23, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Talk:Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain#Two games confusion regarding if it should be split due to its ambiguous nature. Users started moving it without an agreement or consensus so I reverted it. It would be appreciated if more users could give their 10 cents in the discussion. Regards. Tintor2 ( talk) 19:08, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I've expanded the Hideki Kamiya article. Mostly using material from other articles. Please review it and expand it yourself if you wish. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 14:39, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on at the List of Silent Hill 2 and Silent Hill 3 characters page regarding the multiverse disputes. The discussion is at Talk:List of Silent Hill 2 and Silent Hill 3 characters#Multiverse issues. Input from project members would be appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 02:01, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I was thinking about the sub-categories in this category and I've found the criteria for inclusion to be somewhat problematic. In this day and age, (almost) everything gets ported to newer consoles eventually and supported emulation (e.g. Virtual Console, GOG, HD remasters) will only get easier and more common over time. Isn't it ridiculous that The Legend of Zelda (video game) isn't in Category:Nintendo Entertainment System-only games? Eventually, these categories will become completely empty when every single game ever released gets ported to a successful "retro games" service (like Xbox Live Game Room, but successful). I propose a change in the definition of these categories that will aid in both future-proofing them and allowing readers to meaningfully identify "console exclusive" games. I propose that these categories should only apply to games which were console exclusive within that console generation only. This allows us to correctly identify that Banjo Kazooie was exclusive to N64 at the time, but has since been ported to another console of a different generation. I believe readers of Category:Single-platform video games are interested in knowing what was exclusive at the time, rather than what is the case currently. Axem Titanium ( talk) 04:10, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
This sounds like a good idea in general. For example I have a Mega Drive Landstalker: The Treasures of King Nole and I watch its article, it was a "Mega Drive only game" for a long while and was known as such, but now it is not, as it is on a virtual console somewhere. We would have to decide on a proper description, and inclusion criteria, and the title will be unchanged and slightly incorrect, or correct but a bit long and awkward, but I,m sure we could work round that. How are/would games be treated that are released at the crossover from one generation to the next but only on one companies consoles. Such as The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess it is a Nintendo exclusive game, because of it's release date came out on Game Cube and Wii, but not any Playstation or X-Box, so it is not a single platform game, but it still kind of in the same vein, being a nintendo console only game. People I believe may expect to find games such as this included perhaps. Could we incorporate games like that within similar categories but in a correct way, I think we could? Or would this get too complicated. Carlwev ( talk) 13:00, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
God of War: Ascension is up for GAN if there's any takers. -- JDC808 ♫ 02:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Also, Sonic Adventure is up for GAN if anyone wants to take this on. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 02:50, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
The List of The Warriors characters article is relevant to this Project, so I would like some feedback from other editors. I took the pruning shears to this article, and am open to the criticism that I went too far, but the article was such a bloated mess, I felt it necessary to trim it way back and then slowly readd necessary details. A look at the article history shows that a dedicated anon. has been almost exclusively editing the article for a long time, turning into fanboy paradise. At any rate, I would like to hear some thoughts on this article and my editing thereof. Thanks. --- The Old Jacobite The '45 14:53, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
For those gamers interested on Wikidata, I have created a task force to manage and improve all the Wikidata items that store information about video games. The task force is here: Video games task force. Feel free to join! — ΛΧΣ 21 17:26, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on at the talk page of WikiProject Square Enix concerning the article formally known as Characters of Final Fantasy XIII, regarding what it should be called from here on. You will see the detailed reason on the section. The new title there now (my fault there folks) is a bit of a mess. There are two probably candidates so far: Characters of Final Fantasy XIII series and (I think) Characters of the Lightning Saga (since Square Enix has been repeatedly referring to the three XIII games under that title). THe discussion is at Characters of Final Fantasy XIII. Your input on the issue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 07:56, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
There's an argument (and edit war) at Talk:Fatal Frame III: The Tormented#"citation needed" over plot references. -- Mika1h ( talk) 20:03, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated it for consideration for the day of May the 16th, please comment on its nomination. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 19:54, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Thought I would strike at a wider audience. I'm trying to improve Batman: Arkham Asylum for FAC but I am struggling to find sources for some things and was wondering if anyone could help.
Thanks for reading. Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 20:43, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that the article for Real Racing 3, which is at the Request board, has been tagged with a copyvio. Anyone have any ideas on how to take care of it? GamerPro64 15:05, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
I have started a proposal for moving the Talk Page, as per our conversations. This needs consensus before any action is taken, so I have made an RfC so as to bring in the maximum opinions. Whether you have shown your views clear in the discussion on this page, your comments are needed and appreciated. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 14:33, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
I got a question on the importance on this generation. Its currently at Low, which isn't right, but I don't know what it should be instead. Obvious choices would be High or Top importance but kinda hard to figure out since we're only a year into it. GamerPro64 15:08, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Where can I go about obtaing help with the WP:SEGA logo File:Wikiproject-sega-project-logo.svg, it contains path lines which i cannot seem to remove Simon How can I help? 20:04, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
A proposal for a WikiProject Apps has been made at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Apps. As WikiProject Video games is a related WikiProject, members of this WikiProject are invited to join the discussion. Thank you. XapApp ( talk) 02:18, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
We have an IP who is edit warring over this, claiming that a wikilink to another article that doesn't even mention the game can suffice as a 'source'. Meanwhile, another editor did add a citation supporting the isometric perspective but the IP removed the source. Wondering if someone can provide some perspective on this, so to speak. 24.12.74.21 ( talk) 12:04, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
So, what is to be done with this article... 24.12.74.21 ( talk) 12:50, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
What about the category? We are all kind of admitting we know its oblique not isometric, just having trouble with a proper source. The text still says isometric but this game is in the category Category:Video games with oblique graphics (Which is correct) not the isometric category. The text and category of the article contradict each other. Does placement in a category require a source the same as a statement in the text does? As we are still stating in the article that the game has oblique graphics, only in the categories at the bottom not the main text. Should facts or statements in the main text of all articles agree or match the categories at the bottom? it would be odd if they didn't. If it doesn't match, an article like this one at present will contradict itself. Can we keep the article in this category if we are not allowed to state the same fact in the main text? Or are we at some point going to say in the text that it does oblique view? matching the category. Do we turn a blind eye to categories as kind of separate from the article text? Carlwev ( talk) 19:29, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
The discussion at Talk:Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain#Two games confusion seems to have stalled again and both sides are mostly talking past each other now. You are invited to share your opinion on the matter to break the deadlock. Axem Titanium ( talk) 04:39, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
I had added a bunch of Transformers characters who appeared in recent Transformers video games to the category "Robot character in video games", but then someone came in and removed them all. Just looking for other opinions. If a Transformers character appears in a Transformers video game, is it correct to add the category "Robot characters in video games" to their page? They are robots, they appear in a video game... Seems to make sense. Thanks Mathewignash ( talk) 20:41, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
"One editor" (that's me) created the category in first place, too (along with a few dozen of others). ( [2], most of them.) All of video game character articles are for the characters originating in video games only, it was always this way (with an apparent single exception of Video game bosses). Otherwise, it's just "Fictional robots" etc. (and "Transformers characters" is another sub-category of "Fictional robots", just like "Fictional robotic dinosaurs" (WTF) with a separate "Robotic pterosaurs" (seriously?), "DC Comics robots" and "Marvel Comics robots", and "R2-D2" for R2-D2 only). -- Niemti ( talk) 16:35, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
And if one wants more articles in it, go and create them. One good candidate that was recently brought to my attention is Doctor Nefarious (I already created Clank (Ratchet & Clank) from the same franchise). Wikipedia needs more vg characters overall: among those obviously missing are Faith, Nariko (both from just 1 game, but it doesn't matter), Sackboy (no personality, doesn't matter either), Amaterasu, Otacon, Heather Mason, Marcus Fenix, Isaac Clarke, Cole Phelps, Mokujin (it's a robot), Razputin, Dirk & Daphne, Rynn, and many many others. I can't do everything almost all alone. -- Niemti ( talk) 16:39, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
Also, there are "further apparent inclusion criteria", like in all the other similar cats (since always). It's in the description. What to find there: "Potentially" none of "movie/TV/Comic characters articles." Almost all video game character categories are for video game character articles. Just as the description, well, describes. -- Niemti ( talk) 16:57, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
There's a discussion going on at Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog (1991 video game) regarding which box art to use: the North American one or the European one. The discussion can be found at Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog (1991 video game)#Box Art. Your input would be appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 16:24, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
On April 19th we will be seeing God of War: Chains of Olympus appearing on the main page as that day's Featured Article. GamerPro64 00:20, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
I think the transformer videogame robot category is part of a bigger problem, with character categories. Many characters start of in one medium then spill over into others. Characters from the mediums of movies, TV, novels, comics, and videogames can spread over into one another. Many character's from disney and, Warner Brothers toons, TV shows like 24, Simpsons, Movies like Terminator, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, James Bond, LOTR, and nearly all major comic characters, are all in several video games each as player characters or otherwise, and to be really nit picking real people like most major sports people and many historical leaders are characters in sports games and strategy war games. Characters and people from everywhere appear in games, is there a loose rule that they have to originate in a game to appear in a game cat? I imagine inclusion to a game category would be based on the content of the article, if a large part of the article describes the character within games it would be sensible to put it in a game category. Real people like tiger Woods appear in many games but would presumably never be in a video game character category. Characters like transformers, batman, luke skywalker, Jack Bauer, James Bond, Homer Simpson, and Aragorn are main player characters in many games, they are border line, could be included or not, usually not as there not originally from games. There are some that characters should definitely be in, some that would definitely be out, but there are loads that are a grey area. I thought Transformers should be in the said article, but now I am not sure. Terminator, and Robocop should also be in but theyre not either. We need to think about guidelines or rules for this. What do users think about this, I am guessing a character has to be designed for a game and appear originally in a game before something else to be in game character category is the simplest solution, this could be really simple or realy complicated depending on how its dealt with? Carlwev ( talk) 08:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
That's so easy:
Categories for Alisa Bosconovitch: Anthropomorphic characters in video games; Female characters in video games; Fictional gynoids; Robot characters in video games; Tekken characters; Video game characters introduced in 2008 (she was in a film, but she's not a film character). Categories for Batman, Luke, Bauer, Aragorn - various, but nothing about games, because they're not from games.
But if anyone wants, an additional category for licensed characters in video games can be created (with sub-categories if needed, such as for Marvel comics characters etc). -- Niemti ( talk) 10:15, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
In fact, I already wanted to split licensed characters into a sub-cat of the rarily inclusive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Video_game_bosses and then to populate it further (there are lots of such characters, of course), but I can't think of a non-awkward name for it. -- Niemti ( talk) 11:03, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Seems that the website has been having some technical difficulties or maybe its being closed permanently. Should we archive the links? My phone cant load archive sites for some reason. Lucia Black ( talk) 20:51, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Ok thanx. I'll link these right away. Lucia Black ( talk) 06:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
OK, so many of video game characters are spamming the comics and film categories while they're from video games mainly. It's contributing to the main comics characters category having 527 characters that often didn't really "originated in comics." How about categories for vg characters who make licensed appearances in other media, maybe "Video game characters in other media", and form that "Video game characters in television series" etc? (Or one could just start removing them. That's an alternative.)
Also, how to name a sub-category of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Video_game_bosses for the appearances of licensed characters? (Same would apply for protagonists, sidekicks, and secret characters, that are currently for mainly-vg characters only, while the bosses category is much more inclusive.) -- Niemti ( talk) 17:15, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
I'll do the first one as proposed, the other part I still don't know how to name it. -- Niemti ( talk) 17:31, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
So from the looks at the percentages on the project's front page, we are within one percent to getting 10% of our project's articles to C-class or higher. Since we're almost to that mark, what milestone should we replace it with once the goal is met? GamerPro64 17:38, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi everybody,
Concering this template, what do we consider a franchise? Cause to me a franchise means not just a series, but everything associated with a fictional universe: video games, movies, toys, comics, etc. Franchise could be used for both though, but right now this template includes stand-alone games (i.e., Gravity Rush, PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale). Should those be taken out? --Soetermans. T / C 12:08, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Soetermans, the same issue came up with the Nintendo Template as well - "which ones are Nintendo Franchises, and which ones are just games on Nintendo platforms?" We (I) split it into two categories; first party ones that are completely done by Nintendo, (Super Mario]]), and 2nd/3rd party ones that are done by other companies but published by Nintendo or pretty much locked into Nintendo consoles ( Golden Sun). If majority of a series appeared on another consoles, then they were not included. (The Xeno (series).) Sergecross73 msg me 13:15, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Hey everyone, punting this over to WT:VG to hopefully get some more opinions on a subject that impacted Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary's FA, and I'd like to start up a discussion while I improve the article to resubmit. At the FAC User:Hanchen argued that I should reword the section to strip out reviewer's names and use publications instead, so "IGN said X" rather than "GameSpot editor Chris Watters wrote" or variations thereof. I can certainly see his point (echoed by User:Czar on the talk page) that the names are not as recognizable as the publications, and so referring to the reviewer's comments can be a bit harder to link.
On the other hand, my concern is that we're linking writer's statements and opinions to entities that can't have opinions, namely a games journo outlet. This is different from "Gamespot reported", we're saying "Gamespot thinks this", even if it's a single reviewer (and in many cases there are different reviews from the same parent, e.g. IGN UK/AU/US.) The reviews aren't something the outlets "stand behind" in that it's a consistent opinion; later "top ten" lists or second opinion articles regularly challenge what was said before, so I'm uncomfortable not making the distinction; hence why I've used a similar formulation for a while (e.g. Halo Wars, Halo 3: ODST, et al.)
Thoughts?
Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs( talk) 14:09, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
These are two related issues involving the use of the aggregate review sites Metacritic and Gamerankings.
It is common (though it is a practice I don't like) to call out the specifics of the MC/GR rankings in the first para of prose about a game's reception, with statements like "It received a 80.23% aggregate score from 23 reviews from Metacritic".
First is the digits of precision. I know that MC and GR report the numbers to this level of detail but given how they do their work, the 3rd digit is barely in the area of being precise and the fourth digit is well beyond that. In other words, their aggregate scores are reasonably statistically significant to the first 2 digits (80, above), but anything more is being overly precise given their systems. But because editors tend to include these two digits, what starts to happen is that IPs and other editors tend to frequently update these numbers, in particular if a game is multiconsole and the accuracy of these numbers puts their preferred console over another. After about 3-5 days of a game's release, the number should have settled down that at worst the aggregate score changes by a point (on a 100 point scale), so all these edits after that are just overly-fine tuning. It's a lot of excessive busywork for unimportant numbers. I would rather encourage us to report MC and GR to 2 digits (or one, if the game happens to get less than a 10 out of 100 rating), such that frequent updating can be avoided and we're giving more appropriate broad strokes to these scores as all they are are meant as a rough guide to a game's reception.
That points to the fact in prose that a lot of weight is given to these scores. If one is using the VG reviews table, the scores will be right there, and I'm not seeing the need to go into detail about the scores (particularly for a multi-console game). I agree it is a good way to start a reception section, to tell the reader the general average rating the game got, but we don't need the finer breakdown of how many reviews, etc. Having a bulk of numbers at the start of prose like this weakens the reception sections. But it may be that this is tied with the digits of precision above, as this produces just a lot of extra numbers that can blur clear prose reading. -- MASEM ( t) 14:23, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
If you have a suitable Metacritic score, drop Gamerankings. I've mentioned this at article reviews before. Metacritic is the industry standard, it is a reliable source, we trust it to provide an accurate consensus score. Adding Gamerankings as well (and any other aggregators) is just redundancy. - hahnch e n 21:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to fix the article up a bit. I'm not planning on getting it to GA status, in fact, I might not even get it past stub or start status, but I would like to get it referenced and at least provide a little bit more information. A question on the talk page of the article is related to revenue received by people making LP videos, so that's one of the areas I'd like to expand the article on. I've begun searching for sources, but so far I've found zilch. Most of what is available comes from forums, wikis, or other unreliable sources. I did find this and I might search more into that Senate bill, but I don't want to focus on that since it would really be undue, especially in regards to the size of the article. In any case, can anyone help me find a few sources? Ryan Vesey 19:54, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
I was thinking of starting this WikiProject to expand on eroge articles, but I'm unsure about it cause I lack some experience on Wikipedia. Is anybody interested? -- (B)~(ー.ー)~(Z) ( talk) 09:23, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
All right. G-Zay has been indef banned per community consensus. Is it time to take action and launch a WP:CCI on him? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 17:32, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
CCI isn't the right venue; he didn't violate copyright, he just made up sources (and information). Not sure if there is a process in place for things like this- what did they do with that guy who made up all those sources on music articles? User:Legolas2186? G-Zay had 1576 edits to article space, and fortunately a lot of them are going to be those quibbling edits to infoboxes that he loved so much, the majority of which have been reverted in any case as TMI. I guess someone's going to have to go through them all sequentially- I ripped out his contributions to Final Fantasy 6, but I don't think that article-by-article is the way to go here, necessarily. -- Pres N 19:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Comment : Sorry , but I am not G-zay but I really see some right information about the SNES and PS1 Era on Wiki jap and some interview page so i just add but really not good at writing so I copy the old one with some edit . Also in others wikipage Ito really invole with Final Fantasy VII concept system and he is really lyric writer for " melody of life " in FFIX and " Dear friend album " in FFV . You can check the credit of FFIX for information about the lyric .
ps : This is my first time using Wiki edit . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azure223 ( talk • contribs) 10:59, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Comment :
Well , You guys are rude . you accused me G zay when I was not even a English speaker. When I see you guy delete all the information , I try to search on Jap page to find some infor that can be keep . I come to this disscusion because I click into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xiomicronpi gameplay system such as junction , meteria , FF tactic: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Hiroyuki_It%C5%8D , http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BC%8A%E8%97%A4%E8%A3%95%E4%B9%8B The lyric writer is a right part . If you guy delete that , i can concluse that you never play Final Fantasy 9 and the others FF . For Final fantasy V http://squaremusic.ffworld.com/?comp=uematsu&page=ff5df.htm Paroles : Yoshihiko Maekawa (5), Hiroyuki Ito (11) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azure223 ( talk • contribs) 11:25, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
I've been in discussion with another registered user concerning some additions he made to Metal Arms: Glitch in The System. They look to me like trivial information that doesn't belong on Wikipedia, but he argues that he put it here to preserve it, as external wikis devoted to this game are soon to be shut down. Is there any reason to retain the additions, or any way to integrate them into the article better? Larrythefunkyferret ( talk) 04:30, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Ok fellas, quick query of y'all. Earlier today, someone added the BFG Edition box art to the Doom 3 article, in its appropriate section. Now, I can't help feel that it seems entirely unnecessary, just shoehorned in for the sake of showing the box art. Being so far down the article anyway doesn't exactly meet our usual rationale as means of identification for the reader. To me it just doesn't add anything; certainly in this case it doesn't seem so drastically radical it needs to be shown (being just the logo from the original box on a black background). I do note that there are articles, such as The Secret of Monkey Island and Myst that don't bother with showing any re-release artwork. I can't, however, express that in a way relating to current practice or guidelines. Any precedents, thoughts or so on regarding this sort of thing? -- Sabre ( talk) 18:00, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Sonic Adventure is now a GA! I am also planning to take Sonic the Hedgehog (1991 video game). Before I go, I want to let everyone know that I have worked on 11 GAs and at least 10 FAs and have at least improved video game articles to the highest degree. Any thoughts? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 01:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
The current discussion about captions in infoboxes (and specifically in videogame infoboxes) seems to be drifting towards the removal of captions. Rather than this information being blithely removed from articles, would it be possible to alter the Caption field in the template, so that it was used as alt-text for the image, and thus available for users that use screen readers etc? Just deleting it would seem a stupid thing to do, when we could put it to a good use. - X201 ( talk) 08:19, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
File:Mario-and-luigi-dream-team-3-630x354.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.250.103 ( talk) 05:17, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
There is a new subsection in the Reception section of the The Legend of Zelda article about the recent criticism the series has received about the role of women within them (quite well deserved in my opinion, but I shall remain impartial in terms of the article's references and wording). Can anyone help with seeing whether the section needs to stay. There has already been a small conflict between two unregistered users as to whether the section belongs there or not (which can be seen in the article's edit history. It had problems anyway, with some dreadful spelling and grammar, which I have corrected, and some work seems to have been done by another editor to correct biased wording or something like that, but I think the references need a look over and the thing in general needs to be looked over in terms of notoriety and possible bias. I don't think I'm qualified to look at this, so could someone more experienced do it? -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 22:13, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Let's continue this discussion on the article's talk page, please. czar · · 00:09, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Should we be tagging review pages (GAN, etc.) as project pages on the talk page? I can't find previous dialogue about this. It would help keep track of the reviews related to the project, though perhaps this is viewed as needless, unhelpful work. Anyway, wanted to throw it out there. czar · · 04:04, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion about the above at Template_talk:Infobox_video_game#De-Link_.2F_Rename_.22Media.2FDistribution.22 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkwarriorblake ( talk • contribs) 12:24, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion about merging these two articles. Your input is welcome. Jonathan Hardin' ( talk) 12:16, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Could someone in the know quickly check the notability of the section "Zod Engine (remake)"? S.G.(GH) ping! 21:04, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
should Atari not be merged with Atari Corporation ? It's basicly the same entity in name and has at some point been devided up between the two articles. There was a conversation about a merge, but lacked any input because no one appears to have looked. Govvy ( talk) 20:51, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Just in the first two lines of each article, it appears to me that Atari is scoped to the brand name and Atari Corp is scoped to the company that existed between 1984 and 1996. It seems sensible to me that they should remain separate articles. -- Izno ( talk) 20:54, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
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Some heavy edits by Ryulong have been done to the template. it seems excessive, and the chain of tiny edits to comply with the previous tiny edits need to stop. The issue on the surrent page's layout is here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucia Black ( talk • contribs) 19:52, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
I know this is pretty old, but can anyone look at my proposal regarding character articles and provide some advice on this or is it needed on WP:VG/GL? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 04:29, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
When I raised it up at WT:VG/GL#RfC: Time to implement the character notability proposal?, WhatamIdoing ( talk · contribs) has stated that we need to change the tag regarding WP:VG/GL, as it is a guideline, and to skip WP:PROPOSAL. Thoughts about this? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 19:39, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Every year, the Game Developers Conference release their images onto Flickr with free-use licenses. Normally someone drops a reminder on this talk page too - but it looks like we forgot this year. So I'm reminding you now.
We may already have a lot of photos for industry figures on commons, but this year GDC have exceeded themselves - you will never ever find a better picture of Michael Pachter, ever. If you need to figure out who's who in those 80s images, the facebook galleries at [24] [25] [26] might help. Take a look through the the flickr, find the useful images (there are some genuinely useful ones of the GDC and IGF winners), and use commons:User:Flickr upload bot to upload images into commons:Category:Game Developers Conference. - hahnch e n 18:54, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Just so everyone knows, I will be taking a temporary Wikibreak for at least 5-7 days to let off some steam and get myself reenergized. Some of the stress has got to me, so I think it's best if I should take a couple of days off. I also have final exams coming up as well. I will only be back to work on certain articles like Sonic the Hedgehog (1991 video game) and the Lightning saga. Till then, adios. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 20:07, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Also, just to clarify, some of the stress stems from the recent disputes that I have been involved in as well as my frustration over Wikipedia's inability to deal with a couple of persistently disruptive users (i.e. those with a bullying or battleground mentality in general or those who seem to be oblivious to their own uncivil behaviors), combined with realization of my unintended immaturity in some of my approaches to dealing with these users (including my unintentional feeding of the Streisand effect), a couple of users' comments towards me were in a negative light and/or condescending (I have exceptionally low tolerance for these comments which were uncalled for, and one of these users has already apologized to me after I apologized to him for any issues I may have caused). I have been recently subjected to very serious personal abuse and constant uncivil behavior by these users, but I have mostly moved on from that. Also, some of the users have been trying to discredit my views, which I do not appreciate. Such things like these are considered a disgrace to the community and to an editor with an excellent contribution record, which is myself. Also, I fear that if I engage a disruptive user while trying to avoid them, I may push the wrong buttons accidentally. These reasons are a couple of the factors in my Wikibreak, and are also why I refuse to get involved in dealing with other difficult users until the time is right because it causes me undue stress. In the past, while I have almost always been civil, I may have caused issues with other users (disruptive or not) in anyway or might have been uncivil in any way towards anyone and I do not appreciate it when people are incivil or condescending towards me, so if I have done that or anything wrong, I am terribly sorry and I really didn't mean for some things to happen... Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 14:20, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
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Need another set of eyes over at World in Conflict. Last 20 or so edits have been reverts of content regarding a mod of the game, which an IP is currently reinserting. -- ferret ( talk) 17:15, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Request to merge Freeciv.net into Freeciv. Discussion >>>HERE<<<. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 07:52, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
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G-Zay (see ban discussion and cleanup plan) is back with IP sockpuppets 89.240.41.89 and 92.18.158.199 vandalising articles Motomu Toriyama and Yoshinori Kitase. I've reverted for now but don't think it'll last long as he constantly hops UK IPs at Internet cafés. I don't know where to report this so I put it here. The third of his vandalised articles is Hiroyuki Ito which is protected. Should the same go for the other two? Xiomicronpi ( talk) 10:12, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. GamerPro64 19:16, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
The project currently delsorts (sorts deletion discussions and notices) manually. I understand this was the popular opinion three years ago and that the last discussion kind of stagnated (it isn't a very exciting topic), but time has certainly passed. Article Alerts currently tracks any articles, categories, etc. tagged into WPVG and publishes results daily. The video games delsort page is kept separate from the other topics, uses a custom template, and requires manual archiving. That whole process can be automated like the other topics if we were to switch. I went to archive posts March 4 through April 26 (7/8th of the page, which severely impedes pageload speed), but was put off by the amount of (needless?) work that goes into refactoring for the archive page.
Has consensus changed in the past several years, and, if so, can we finally convert to the current delsort system? Are WPVGers still receiving added benefit from manual delsort considering both Article Alerts and the perks of automated delsort ( see how the other topics work)? As a delsorter, I'd be willing to do the conversion work and logistics, as I currently waste time in our manual upkeep. czar · · 01:02, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
The WP:VisualEditor is designed to let people edit without needing to learn wikitext syntax. The articles will look (nearly) the same in the new edit "window" as when you read them (aka WYSIWYG), and changes will show up as you type them, very much like writing a document in a modern word processor. The devs currently expect to deploy the VisualEditor as the new site-wide default editing system in early July 2013.
About 2,000 editors have tried out this early test version so far, and feedback overall has been positive. Right now, the VisualEditor is available only to registered users who opt-in, and it's a bit slow and limited in features. You can do all the basic things like writing or changing sentences, creating or changing section headings, and editing simple bulleted lists. It currently can't either add or remove templates (like fact tags), ref tags, images, categories, or tables (and it will not be turned on for new users until common reference styles and citation templates are supported). These more complex features are being worked on, and the code will be updated as things are worked out. Also, right now you can only use it for articles and user pages. When it's deployed in July, the old editor will still be available and, in fact, the old edit window will be the only option for talk pages ( WP:Notifications (aka Echo) is supposed to deal with talk pages).
The developers are asking editors like you to join the alpha testing for the VisualEditor. Please go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing and tick the box at the end of the page, where it says "Enable VisualEditor (only in the main namespace and the User namespace)". Save the preferences, and then try fixing a few typos or copyediting a few articles by using the new "Edit" tab instead of the section [Edit] buttons or the old editing window (which will still be present and still work for you, but which will be renamed "Edit source"). Fix a typo or make some changes, and then click the 'save and review' button (at the top of the page). See what works and what doesn't. We really need people who will try this out on 10 or 15 pages and then leave a note Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback about their experiences, especially if something mission-critical isn't working and doesn't seem to be on anyone's radar.
Also, if any of you are involved in template maintenance or documentation about how to edit pages, the VisualEditor will require some extra attention. The devs want to incorporate things like citation templates directly into the editor, which means that they need to know what information goes in which fields. Obviously, the screenshots and instructions for basic editing will need to be completely updated. The old edit window is not going away, so help pages will likely need to cover both the old and the new.
If you have questions and can't find a better place to ask them, then please feel free to leave a message on [[User talk:WhatamIdoing|my user talk page, and perhaps together we'll be able to figure it out. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 00:56, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
1) as of just now, I'm a member of this WikiGroup. After seven years of editing (mostly) video game articles, I think it was about to time actually join. You might've spotted this frequent edit of mine in VG infoboxes: [[single-player]] -> [[single-player video game|single-player]] 2) just a little heads-up: Fazm1bico ( talk · contribs) is active again. Though a lot of his edits are of a constructive nature, in the past he also made some erros and did not communicate at all. I do of course assume good faith, so hopefully this time he'll be nice. But I did have to warn him earlier for making a unnecessary piped link, which he did all the time last year. Anyhoo, glad to be part of the team. For real, this time. --Soetermans. T / C 11:44, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
How do you do it? For example, I just moved List of God of War characters to Characters of God of War, but I don't know how to make the display title for "God of War" on the page italicized. -- JDC808 ♫ 05:38, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
So the StarCraft titles Featured Topic's grace period is about to end on the 12th. Is it possible for anyone to try to improve it to at least GA status before that happens? Or at least when the 12th comes and goes someone can place it at Good Topic Review? I have other topics on the backburner to get them on there but I don't want to clog the review page. GamerPro64 15:07, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
"improve it to at least GA status"→ improve HotS to GA, right? czar · · 16:43, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys,
Like I said earlier, Fazm1bico ( talk · contribs) is back. This user main interest seems to be video game engines, and that's fine. But he doesn't follow the guidelines and does not communicate at all. His edits over the last two days have been the same once more: adding Capital Letters to genres, making unnecessary piped links, being too descriptive of a video game engine in the infobox and adding (and re-adding) unnecessary breaks for platforms. I'm getting really tired of cleaning up after this guy, but I'm not sure what to do next. Assuming good faith, I do think he means good, but he just doesn't seem to listen. Any help? --Soetermans. T / C 11:46, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Hello, everyone. It's been a long time since I left Wikipedia, but it seems I'm back for the time being. Anyway, I've got a peer review going for Sega v. Accolade at WP:PR, and I'd like some feedback to help improve it, with the goal of nominating it for GA-status soon. Thanks! Red Phoenix build the future... remember the past... 22:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
I hate to ask in advance, but aside from FFXI, are there any upcoming TFAs pertaining to video games for this month or this year for that matter? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 02:43, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that the Famitsu's website now lists the review scores from Weekly Famitsu and Famitsu Xbox 360 on the games' pages (as an example [27]; and in the former's case, a few sentences from the reviews). Each game that received reviews from Weekly Famitsu now has a "Famitsu Cross Review" (ファミ通クロスレビュー) section in its "infobox" that shows the score combined from the four individual reviews. The pages also include a few sentences from the reviews and the Famitsu Xbox 360 scores under the "This game's assessments" (このゲームの評価) section. That section does also include reviews from users and blogs, though.
Hope this helps verifying Famitsu scores/reviews in the articles.-- クラ ウド 668 09:15, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources#Foreign language sources for consideration. Thanks in advance.-- Atlantima ~✿~ ( talk) 16:36, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Should we implement the B-Class checklist as part of the WP:VG assessment? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 01:59, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Any thoughts on or objections to setting up A-class assessment subpages similar to MILHIST's A-class process (per Torchiest's suggestion)? I'd be willing to write up the draft if there is consensus in favor. (Maybe the current Riddick nom could be first?) czar · · 20:49, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Would appreciate feedback on questions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Assessment/A-Class review (talk page) if y'all have a chance czar · · 08:46, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
I've nominated Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association for GA status, and I'd appreciate an informed reviewer. Please have a look and maybe write a review. Thanks, BDD ( talk) 18:27, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi - my video games knowledge is very minimal, so I'd be grateful for some input here before going any further.
The recently created article Zardgame, appears to be basically a copy/paste of ArchKnight, which was itself redirected a long time ago, and seems to be largely copied from AdventureQuest.
The same user created the new article, and undid the redirect/creating ArchKnight.
Should either of these 2 articles exist, and if so, does anyone here want to look at what content they should include, or is the best plan to do what I originally intended to do and just redirect both to AQ? Thanks. Begoon talk 03:46, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
image:OpenEmuHeroScreenshot.jpg has been nominated for deletion, concerns revolve around the appropriateness of the inclusion of NES material. -- 65.94.76.126 ( talk) 05:53, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Not sure when the goal was reached but as a project we have over 10% of our articles at least C-class. Congrats to everyone. GamerPro64 14:19, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
10% of articles C-Class or better: 254.3% complete | ||
Alright, so what do we want to replace it with? Front-runners from last time are Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/2012 Stubcheck progress (either stubs or starts), 20% C+ class, or 50%+ Start class. I vote 50%+ Start class. -- Pres N 04:21, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
I have done some significant work on the article, pretty much created the current development section from scratch and replaced the old system requirements box with a more sensible version. I would value more opinions, and if people can suggest ways of improving it or finding other references if the current ones are not suitable would be much appreciated. The article just looked as though it needed working on, so I did it. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 13:44, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
For this months Featured Article that's going to be on the front page is Final Fantasy XI on the 16th. This date is special as it will be the 11th anniversary of the games release. GamerPro64 14:41, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Come and vote on the nomination please, it would be great to have your feedback. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 00:08, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Hey everybody,
I have some problems with the GTA infobox. Rather I bring it to you kind gentle folks, instead of editing first and going into an almost immediate tug of war. Let's get to it then. Right now, it looks like this:
The subsections for 'video games' seem off to me. The two orignal games are listed as '2D'. A top-down perspective is of course 2D, but I think many a gamer and surely an average person thinks of 2D as a side-scroller platformer and/or shooter. Ya know, Duke Nukem blasting aliens, not running Hare Krisnhas over with a tank. After the transition into 3D games the infobox makes a distinction between the previous generation and the current, into 3D and HD. To me that sounds HD isn't 3D, when they of course are both. That brings up another problem, because I think it is safe to assume that every GTA title from now 'till the end of time will be in high-definition. Or ultra HD. Or megaultra HD. Or... That's why I suggest we change 2D, 3D and the current roster of HD into their respective generations of consoles, sixth, seventh, and eigth. Even if a hardcore PC gamer objects that GTA through IV also came out on PC, it still makes sense graphics and game-size wise, also with the future in mind.
Now you! --Soetermans. T / C 12:45, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
User:Salvidrim/Template:GTANavBox
Claude Speed needs to be merged, other characters need work. -- Niemti ( talk) 15:21, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
The Sega and Nintendo logos are listed on Commons as PD. Would we be able to use them as the logos for the task forces? The current Sega icon is a bronze blob. czar · · 03:38, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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I wonder if improving this article is needed. Hahnchen raised concerns about its criteria as too broad or "bastardized". While the list is decent to read, there are other worse games than listed ones. -- George Ho ( talk) 23:28, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
List of Game of the Year awards survived an AfD (disclosure, I NAC'd it) conditional on a number of improvements. It's an important article but it needs a good clean up and possibly a split into List of Game of the Year awards (board games) and List of Game of the Year awards (video games). Cabe 6403 ( Talk• Sign) 09:42, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:List of video games notable for negative reception, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, PantherLeapord ( talk) 10:57, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
I have opened a move discussion at Template talk:Infobox VG character to move it to Template:Infobox video game character. Please comment. -- Izno ( talk) 15:29, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
This article has been nominated for deletion for the 2nd time, entry here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Halo multiplayer maps (2nd nomination). No consensus was reached on the first nomination. The1337gamer ( talk) 19:03, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Recently, I reviewed Fortress and passed it as a GA, which was once a part of this Good Topic, but that's beside the point. Even if Fortress was readded, wouldn't the topic also need to include Vaan and Balthier to satisfy WP:WIAFT criterion 1(d) for completeness? Should the topic be taken to WP:FTRC and discussed there?-- 十 八 22:53, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to request anyone interested to participate in a dispute over the inclusion of voice actors at the above article. I included the actors in a similar way to Batman: Arkham City and other game articles in the style of "charactername ( actor name)", only a handful of actors names, but a user repeatedly removes the content even when sourced, raising different excuses each time, and since I am on my 3rd revert and he is on his 4th, its clear he will not be stopping any time soon, and since the dispute includes only 2 editors, it requires additional voices to end it one way or another, as I feel he will just continue to edit war if the content is restored by myself. Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 22:58, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm floating this by users here: Just Dance 4 has become a game guide, with its exhaustive list of songs. Should those be removed? Why, if we were to do so, would those list articles for Rock Band (video game) ( List of songs in Rock Band) and other music video games not also be removed? I was going to be bold, but I figured, why not ask the project. In other words, how do these lists not fail WP:VGSCOPE #6? -- Izno ( talk) 00:28, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Heads up: there's a character designer discussion over at WT:SE#Character designer question. Input from project members would be appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 17:46, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Since there are some concerns about the recent activity by Niemti, who is currently the subject of an RFC, I think we should delete these categories while we're still waiting for an AN thread about the proposal to ban him from the WP:VG subpages. The articles need information about the designer and the categories are unnecessary per Tintor2 and PresN. The possibility of a WP:CFD was not discounted by ProtoDrake, one of the people involved in the discussion. Does anyone have thoughts about this? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 23:33, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
I've been doing research into a Japanese video game series by a development team called Generation XTH under a company called Experience (neither of which seem to have a Wikipedia entry here, but I'll get to that later). I'm currently interested in writing an article for one of their games called Meikyuu Cross Blood Infinity, a PS Vita port of an earlier game called Meikyuu Cross Blood (the former is to be published by another company called Cyberfront). However, I can't understand from the Japanese Wiki articles as to what the name of the series actually is. Since MCBI has yet to be released, should I make an article for the series instead? If so, where can I find good sources? Alternatively, should I make an article for Experience/Generation XTH? Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 14:57, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Since ProtoDrake ( talk · contribs) has raised a point that the issue with Niemti ( talk · contribs), who is currently the subject of an ongoing RFC has not been brought up at AN/ANI yet, and with the discussion of a possible ban on this user from the project now stored in the archives, I think that this is really the time to discuss the best course of action to ban Niemti from WP:VG to minimize disruption in video game articles. Personally, I would suggest that a thorough summary of the evidence should be created before taking this up to AN or ANI and that multiple people will need to check and agree that evidence shows a significant problem; really bad results will occur when a report is taken to AN/ANI prematurely - really good evidence should be needed first, with a few clear cases that onlookers can understand. Thoughts or ideas on how to proceed with this? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 03:29, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
( edit conflict) As much as I don't approve of his behavior, and tire of always having to intervene in the trouble he's always creating, (my irritation being directed towards him, not the ones who ask me for help) it seems like when its presented to higher ups, like the Admin outside of WP:VG, they seem tolerant of his antics as long as his behavior continues to be more of the equivalent of "pushing, shoving, and grumbling" instead of full on "assaults and tirades" he did more when he was originally indef blocked. I'll likely support actions proposed to be taken against him, but I wouldn't be a "driving force" unless more serious infractions happens (like blockable ones). As is, I think discussions are going to just be the endless arguing circles of "Well I think he's bad enough to be banned from X", with the other half saying "Well I think not" that we had the last time he was taken to ANI. (which happened around the same time of the start of his RFC/U.) Sergecross73 msg me 16:39, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
All right, I've boldly created an RFC/U subpage at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Niemti/Additional Evidence. Please add entries there. If it is the wrong place, it should be easy enough to simply transfer the evidence to a new page. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 22:26, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm guessing that what is meant by a "ban from the project", is a "topic ban from video game-related articles", and it should be worded as such. As SergeCross wrote above: an attempt at a full community ban was made at ANI some time ago, and despite almost universal support from video game editors (and I believe, majority support overall), the number of detractors from "outside of WP:VG" (as Serge put it) was sufficient that it was closed as "no consensus" (this despite the fact that his old, consensus-supported community ban was overturned by the unilateral actions of one admin, without consensus; hey, welcome to Wikipedia). That said, even among his supporters there was support for lesser sanctions (explicitly including a topic ban from video games and/or good articles) so perhaps that would have a better chance of success. bridies ( talk) 12:25, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, everyone! It takes time to investigate, so the investigation will take up to a few weeks or so. If anyone wants to add further evidence, please do so at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Niemti/Additional Evidence. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 05:23, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Hey, when I'm citing sources from IGN, what should be listed as the "work" and what should be listed as the "publisher"? The way I approach this is that "IGN" (the website) is the "work", and that "IGN Entertainment" (the company) is the publisher. I got this from the copyright notice at the bottom of the website, which says "Copyright 1996-2013, IGN Entertainment, Inc.". Is this the correct way to cite IGN sources?-- FutureTrillionaire ( talk) 14:10, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
It won't matter for FAC etc, but in a lot of magazines they list the publisher by name (not company), not sure if its a UK only requirement, I'm fairly certain its a legal one. - X201 ( talk) 12:40, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
I've started trying to clean up this page and I'm trying to determine some sort of selection criteria for inclusion so we can establish what should/shouldn't make it into the page. If people could pop over to Talk:List of Game of the Year awards#Selection criteria and offer some thoughts it'd be much appreciated. Cheers, Cabe 6403 ( Talk• Sign) 10:09, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Now Arkham City is up to FAC I'd like to look at taking Asylum to the next level as well, but I don't have as much free time anymore with my job, is anyone willing to collaborate on this? Or just dig up some reliable sources for me to use in expanding it? It needs a little more work than I had assumed. Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 20:44, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Template_talk:Infobox_video_game#discussion_about_new_changes One editor seems to have made changes without any discussion, and is now going around removing things from infoboxes. Please join the discussion there. Dream Focus 15:13, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Its good to have basic development team should be allowed while all the details be listed in the development section. Lucia Black ( talk) 20:51, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I just want to make an important announcement: the Halo featured topic has been delisted. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 23:03, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Flashback (video game)#Flashback Origins. -- Trevj ( talk) 14:36, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Why isn't the "version" number appearing in the infobox? For example, God of War: Ascension. I have it formatted correctly (at least I'm pretty sure I do), but I don't know why it's not appearing. There's another article I edit and it appears just fine. -- JDC808 ♫ 06:24, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if all games are doing this now, but it seems as if game's are moving towards having digital versions of the instruction manual as opposed to physical versions (PlayStation All-Stars and God of War: Ascension for example). Game manuals are often used as a source for the gameplay sections of these articles. How should we go about sourcing a digital version of the manual? The same way as the physical version? Is there a ref template for sourcing digital books? -- JDC808 ♫ 22:13, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Putting an archive link in would be a very good idea too. In preparation for the day they take them offline, or re-organise the file path. - X201 ( talk) 08:51, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
After Futuretrillionaire quick-failed Jill Valentine due to sourcing concerns as explained at RSN, a discussion about GANs has started over at WT:GAN#Problem: reviewers often not knowing/understanding policies/guildelines, and/or choosing to "ignore" them. Your comments would be appreciated there. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 17:07, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
I would like to request a third opinion at Template talk:Ghost in the Shell#Heading "redundant". For context, see my preferred version of the template and Ryulong/Lucia Black's preferred version. Thanks. -- Izno ( talk) 22:26, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
We heard about this in February. Anomie has a list of all 1up, Gamespy, and UGO links currently on Wikipedia. What's the status on archiving these links? Is there a bot that can automate that for us? What are some action items we can do to get this sorted out, preferably sooner before the actual shutdown? Axem Titanium ( talk) 17:02, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Since Wikipedia doesn't allow gaming guide, would it be okay to move the gaming guide content from the old Wikipedia 2004-2007 revisions to my wiki, Video Games Wiki (a wiki supposed to be like Wikipedia, but focused upon video games). Link: http://videogames.shoutwiki.com. I'd be happy to have a reply if I can merge gaming guide content to my video games wiki from here. Thanks. Gaz and Gaming Fan ( talk) 22:46, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi there,
I've proposed a split of the TRS-80 article; one article covering the original-architecture machines (Model I, III and 4) and one covering the overall history and use of the brand (which was subsequently applied to many unrelated architectures).
I'd appreciate more feedback before going ahead with anything, and as the article is part of WikiProject Video Games, it seems appropriate to ask here.
More details and discussion can be found at Talk:TRS-80/Archives/2015#Split_proposal. Thanks. Ubcule ( talk) 21:03, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm just leaving this message here for anyone who might be interested. A new non-WMF wiki called Wikilevels has been started by some Wikipedia (and Wikimedia) users, as a wiki focused on video game guides. Given that this is the Wikiproject for Video games, and given that I'm part of it and I find myself interested in that proposal, I assume that leaving this note here will let other possibly-interested users aware of this. Regards. — Ṟ Ṉ 19:27, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Would somebody mind having a word with Special:Contributions/50.82.22.60? They're obviously well-intentioned, but adding strategy guides to articles, and right now my brain can't handle the light touch needed to avoid WP:BITE (i.e. not scaring away a potential editor while discouraging or re-channeling their current efforts). ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 03:24, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
Done - X201 ( talk) 17:01, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
I was wondering this when looking through the category labelled "Literary trilogies" and List of film series with three entries. There are many games that form trilogies, whether it is three games forming a self-contained story within a larger series (The three-game Lightning Saga within the Final Fantasy series, the original three Sands of Time games in the Prince of Persia franchise) or a set of three games as three games (the three numbered God of War games, the Mass Effect trilogy). Why not a list or category or article showing these various game trilogies, whether they are called "trilogies" or not. Any thoughts as to whether it's practical or useful? -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 19:07, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
In videogame infoboxes like the on at Mr. Nutz. I have noticed the platforms/consoles are in one list of their own, then underneath the release dates of the different platforms is listed in a separate list. Which basically means all the same consoles are listed twice only one with dates next to them and one without; in the case of this game at least the list above of platforms is completely useless/redundant and makes infoboxes a little longer then they need to be. There appears to be a dislike to making boxes longer than they need to be, eg with many credits talked about above. Is there a way we could put platforms and release dates in one list instead of two, should we? I imagine there would be games that it wouldn't work for very well, or perhaps at all, like if a game is released for all platforms on the same date, it may end up showing the same date several times instead of one, or if for old games especially the platforms may be known but not the exact release date so it may be hard to display. However I'm sure this is a perfect idea for games such as the one I mentioned Mr. Nutz and others with infoboxes like it, even if not for all games. If it is already possible to do this, or if it has been discussed somewhere within the 90+ archives of this talk page, forgive me I wasn't aware. What are peoples views on this? Carlwev ( talk) 10:34, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
When ive been skimming through the old pokemon games, specifically the "X &Y" type series and notice certain articles are bundled together when it looks like they can potentially be their own article. Specifically, Pokemon Emerald, Pokemon Black2 & White2. Overall, i think these articles are already long enough and i doubt splitting said topics wont harm the article in becoming GA or featured status. Does anyone else see this problematic? Lucia Black ( talk) 06:37, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
I disagree. Pokemon Ruby, and Pokemon Saphire are basically the same game and considered part of a whole installment, but overall any other game that spun out from its initial series cant possibly be considered too similar to be spun out even if the changes are there. They hold their own notability. Lets not forget that these are RPGs, meaning plot is a significance to how games differ. This is why Link to Past and Link to the Past & four swords was such a heated debate on whether being merged. At least Black2 and White2 are direct sequels, so it doesnt matter if gameplay is exactly the same. The thing is, these are already notable on their own, but for some reason the wikiproject prefers them merged and underdeveloped. such as listing scores instead of concrete statements from reviews. AT LEAST Black2 and White2 should gain their own article. Its a direct sequel. Lucia Black ( talk) 16:41, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
the problem isnt gamecruft exactly. If theres enough info for a split, and enough differences between them, than why not? The thing i see with pokemon articles and several other articles is that they prefer merging rather than expanding knowing the topic is notable. Lucia Black ( talk) 18:10, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
There's a request for comment going on at Talk:Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children regarding what we should do to streamline the plot summary. The discussion is at Talk:Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children#RfC: Plot summary in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 13:28, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
An edit war is currently in progress on the article, whether a section on the Modern Warfare mod should be included. I've opened up a discussion on the talk page, but Blahdy21 ( talk · contribs) has insisted on its inclusion. I cited the case of the twice-deleted Company of Heroes Eastern Front mod as a precedent as to why a section shouldn't be included. I'll put in a 3RR warning on the editor. Thanks!-- Eaglestorm ( talk) 14:40, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that this picture, which is also a Featured Picture, is tagged for this project. However I'm not certain if it should. What do you guys think? GamerPro64 17:21, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
I noticed a discussion on Google Custom Search of Reliable Sources in the archives. You may be interested to know that the same technique can be used inside WP by creating and using templates based on {{ Google RS}}. The same template technique should also work for search engines like Yahoo that apparently don't offer free Custom Search. With Google, you are limited to searching up to 32 sites at a time. LittleBen ( talk) 03:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
There is a Featured Picture nomination for an image of Robert Clotworthy, voice actor of Jim Raynor from the Starcraft series. If anyone is willing to Support or Oppose the nomination, it can be found here. GamerPro64 14:30, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
God of War is up fo FAC again if anyone would care to look it over. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/God of War (video game)/archive3. -- JDC808 ♫ 05:07, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
I've just made an edit on this last night after seeing some footage. Are there people here who have played the game? Feel free to expand. Thanks!-- Eaglestorm ( talk) 13:31, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
See Talk:Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon#Requested move, where it is proposed to move the article to Luigi's Mansion 2. EdJohnston ( talk) 04:06, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Garrett (character)#Archive links. Thanks. -- Izno ( talk) 14:21, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
FYI, there is a motion to close here and a ban proposal has just been added to AN here. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 00:25, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
[1].
Reps from MC revealed their weighting system and how it was determined at GDC today, and there's a lot of people "upset" in internet terms at the skewing as well as exactly how the weights were determined. (For example, Eurogamer above only get an average weight of 1, while some more fan-ish sites that fall outside our RS got higher).
In terms of our project and how we handle video games, I would say this should have zero impact. I've yet to see a MC aggregated score so inflated or deflated by a few reviews compared to the rest of the scores for a game; we're probably talking about the one or two percentage points at most that this scale would change games with widely mixed reception ala Duke Nukem Forever. It is still valuable as 1) a score that gives a rough judge of a game's reception that we ourselves cannot calculate per SYNTH, and 2) a good list of all reviews for the title - the equivalent of Rotten Tomatoes for films.
However, I would also caution - at least until MC explains their process and determination for review weighting - that in considering our reliable sources, we shouldn't consider MC's weights. One example is Giant Bomb, listed at a lower-than-average rating, despite the fact that the staff reviewers are experienced people. I would still consider GB to be a reliable source and a possible review source. -- MASEM ( t) 23:39, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Is vgmdb.net RS? It provides some useful information about video game OST, however, it seems a user-contribution database? And it's not available in WP:VG/RS#Checklist...-- Today's FA is ? (film) 04:45, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
A new user has (badly) re-created Wikipedia:WikiProject_GTA and tagged a load of GTA articles with a GTA project template. The previous GTA Project was closed due to inactivity and converted to a WP:VG Task Force. So, does anyone want to start the stopwatch? - X201 ( talk) 12:23, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Talk:Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain#Two games confusion regarding if it should be split due to its ambiguous nature. Users started moving it without an agreement or consensus so I reverted it. It would be appreciated if more users could give their 10 cents in the discussion. Regards. Tintor2 ( talk) 19:08, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I've expanded the Hideki Kamiya article. Mostly using material from other articles. Please review it and expand it yourself if you wish. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 14:39, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on at the List of Silent Hill 2 and Silent Hill 3 characters page regarding the multiverse disputes. The discussion is at Talk:List of Silent Hill 2 and Silent Hill 3 characters#Multiverse issues. Input from project members would be appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 02:01, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I was thinking about the sub-categories in this category and I've found the criteria for inclusion to be somewhat problematic. In this day and age, (almost) everything gets ported to newer consoles eventually and supported emulation (e.g. Virtual Console, GOG, HD remasters) will only get easier and more common over time. Isn't it ridiculous that The Legend of Zelda (video game) isn't in Category:Nintendo Entertainment System-only games? Eventually, these categories will become completely empty when every single game ever released gets ported to a successful "retro games" service (like Xbox Live Game Room, but successful). I propose a change in the definition of these categories that will aid in both future-proofing them and allowing readers to meaningfully identify "console exclusive" games. I propose that these categories should only apply to games which were console exclusive within that console generation only. This allows us to correctly identify that Banjo Kazooie was exclusive to N64 at the time, but has since been ported to another console of a different generation. I believe readers of Category:Single-platform video games are interested in knowing what was exclusive at the time, rather than what is the case currently. Axem Titanium ( talk) 04:10, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
This sounds like a good idea in general. For example I have a Mega Drive Landstalker: The Treasures of King Nole and I watch its article, it was a "Mega Drive only game" for a long while and was known as such, but now it is not, as it is on a virtual console somewhere. We would have to decide on a proper description, and inclusion criteria, and the title will be unchanged and slightly incorrect, or correct but a bit long and awkward, but I,m sure we could work round that. How are/would games be treated that are released at the crossover from one generation to the next but only on one companies consoles. Such as The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess it is a Nintendo exclusive game, because of it's release date came out on Game Cube and Wii, but not any Playstation or X-Box, so it is not a single platform game, but it still kind of in the same vein, being a nintendo console only game. People I believe may expect to find games such as this included perhaps. Could we incorporate games like that within similar categories but in a correct way, I think we could? Or would this get too complicated. Carlwev ( talk) 13:00, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
God of War: Ascension is up for GAN if there's any takers. -- JDC808 ♫ 02:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Also, Sonic Adventure is up for GAN if anyone wants to take this on. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 02:50, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
The List of The Warriors characters article is relevant to this Project, so I would like some feedback from other editors. I took the pruning shears to this article, and am open to the criticism that I went too far, but the article was such a bloated mess, I felt it necessary to trim it way back and then slowly readd necessary details. A look at the article history shows that a dedicated anon. has been almost exclusively editing the article for a long time, turning into fanboy paradise. At any rate, I would like to hear some thoughts on this article and my editing thereof. Thanks. --- The Old Jacobite The '45 14:53, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
For those gamers interested on Wikidata, I have created a task force to manage and improve all the Wikidata items that store information about video games. The task force is here: Video games task force. Feel free to join! — ΛΧΣ 21 17:26, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on at the talk page of WikiProject Square Enix concerning the article formally known as Characters of Final Fantasy XIII, regarding what it should be called from here on. You will see the detailed reason on the section. The new title there now (my fault there folks) is a bit of a mess. There are two probably candidates so far: Characters of Final Fantasy XIII series and (I think) Characters of the Lightning Saga (since Square Enix has been repeatedly referring to the three XIII games under that title). THe discussion is at Characters of Final Fantasy XIII. Your input on the issue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 07:56, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
There's an argument (and edit war) at Talk:Fatal Frame III: The Tormented#"citation needed" over plot references. -- Mika1h ( talk) 20:03, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated it for consideration for the day of May the 16th, please comment on its nomination. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 19:54, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Thought I would strike at a wider audience. I'm trying to improve Batman: Arkham Asylum for FAC but I am struggling to find sources for some things and was wondering if anyone could help.
Thanks for reading. Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 20:43, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that the article for Real Racing 3, which is at the Request board, has been tagged with a copyvio. Anyone have any ideas on how to take care of it? GamerPro64 15:05, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
I have started a proposal for moving the Talk Page, as per our conversations. This needs consensus before any action is taken, so I have made an RfC so as to bring in the maximum opinions. Whether you have shown your views clear in the discussion on this page, your comments are needed and appreciated. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 14:33, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
I got a question on the importance on this generation. Its currently at Low, which isn't right, but I don't know what it should be instead. Obvious choices would be High or Top importance but kinda hard to figure out since we're only a year into it. GamerPro64 15:08, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Where can I go about obtaing help with the WP:SEGA logo File:Wikiproject-sega-project-logo.svg, it contains path lines which i cannot seem to remove Simon How can I help? 20:04, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
A proposal for a WikiProject Apps has been made at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Apps. As WikiProject Video games is a related WikiProject, members of this WikiProject are invited to join the discussion. Thank you. XapApp ( talk) 02:18, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
We have an IP who is edit warring over this, claiming that a wikilink to another article that doesn't even mention the game can suffice as a 'source'. Meanwhile, another editor did add a citation supporting the isometric perspective but the IP removed the source. Wondering if someone can provide some perspective on this, so to speak. 24.12.74.21 ( talk) 12:04, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
So, what is to be done with this article... 24.12.74.21 ( talk) 12:50, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
What about the category? We are all kind of admitting we know its oblique not isometric, just having trouble with a proper source. The text still says isometric but this game is in the category Category:Video games with oblique graphics (Which is correct) not the isometric category. The text and category of the article contradict each other. Does placement in a category require a source the same as a statement in the text does? As we are still stating in the article that the game has oblique graphics, only in the categories at the bottom not the main text. Should facts or statements in the main text of all articles agree or match the categories at the bottom? it would be odd if they didn't. If it doesn't match, an article like this one at present will contradict itself. Can we keep the article in this category if we are not allowed to state the same fact in the main text? Or are we at some point going to say in the text that it does oblique view? matching the category. Do we turn a blind eye to categories as kind of separate from the article text? Carlwev ( talk) 19:29, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
The discussion at Talk:Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain#Two games confusion seems to have stalled again and both sides are mostly talking past each other now. You are invited to share your opinion on the matter to break the deadlock. Axem Titanium ( talk) 04:39, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
I had added a bunch of Transformers characters who appeared in recent Transformers video games to the category "Robot character in video games", but then someone came in and removed them all. Just looking for other opinions. If a Transformers character appears in a Transformers video game, is it correct to add the category "Robot characters in video games" to their page? They are robots, they appear in a video game... Seems to make sense. Thanks Mathewignash ( talk) 20:41, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
"One editor" (that's me) created the category in first place, too (along with a few dozen of others). ( [2], most of them.) All of video game character articles are for the characters originating in video games only, it was always this way (with an apparent single exception of Video game bosses). Otherwise, it's just "Fictional robots" etc. (and "Transformers characters" is another sub-category of "Fictional robots", just like "Fictional robotic dinosaurs" (WTF) with a separate "Robotic pterosaurs" (seriously?), "DC Comics robots" and "Marvel Comics robots", and "R2-D2" for R2-D2 only). -- Niemti ( talk) 16:35, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
And if one wants more articles in it, go and create them. One good candidate that was recently brought to my attention is Doctor Nefarious (I already created Clank (Ratchet & Clank) from the same franchise). Wikipedia needs more vg characters overall: among those obviously missing are Faith, Nariko (both from just 1 game, but it doesn't matter), Sackboy (no personality, doesn't matter either), Amaterasu, Otacon, Heather Mason, Marcus Fenix, Isaac Clarke, Cole Phelps, Mokujin (it's a robot), Razputin, Dirk & Daphne, Rynn, and many many others. I can't do everything almost all alone. -- Niemti ( talk) 16:39, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
Also, there are "further apparent inclusion criteria", like in all the other similar cats (since always). It's in the description. What to find there: "Potentially" none of "movie/TV/Comic characters articles." Almost all video game character categories are for video game character articles. Just as the description, well, describes. -- Niemti ( talk) 16:57, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
There's a discussion going on at Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog (1991 video game) regarding which box art to use: the North American one or the European one. The discussion can be found at Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog (1991 video game)#Box Art. Your input would be appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 16:24, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
On April 19th we will be seeing God of War: Chains of Olympus appearing on the main page as that day's Featured Article. GamerPro64 00:20, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
I think the transformer videogame robot category is part of a bigger problem, with character categories. Many characters start of in one medium then spill over into others. Characters from the mediums of movies, TV, novels, comics, and videogames can spread over into one another. Many character's from disney and, Warner Brothers toons, TV shows like 24, Simpsons, Movies like Terminator, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, James Bond, LOTR, and nearly all major comic characters, are all in several video games each as player characters or otherwise, and to be really nit picking real people like most major sports people and many historical leaders are characters in sports games and strategy war games. Characters and people from everywhere appear in games, is there a loose rule that they have to originate in a game to appear in a game cat? I imagine inclusion to a game category would be based on the content of the article, if a large part of the article describes the character within games it would be sensible to put it in a game category. Real people like tiger Woods appear in many games but would presumably never be in a video game character category. Characters like transformers, batman, luke skywalker, Jack Bauer, James Bond, Homer Simpson, and Aragorn are main player characters in many games, they are border line, could be included or not, usually not as there not originally from games. There are some that characters should definitely be in, some that would definitely be out, but there are loads that are a grey area. I thought Transformers should be in the said article, but now I am not sure. Terminator, and Robocop should also be in but theyre not either. We need to think about guidelines or rules for this. What do users think about this, I am guessing a character has to be designed for a game and appear originally in a game before something else to be in game character category is the simplest solution, this could be really simple or realy complicated depending on how its dealt with? Carlwev ( talk) 08:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
That's so easy:
Categories for Alisa Bosconovitch: Anthropomorphic characters in video games; Female characters in video games; Fictional gynoids; Robot characters in video games; Tekken characters; Video game characters introduced in 2008 (she was in a film, but she's not a film character). Categories for Batman, Luke, Bauer, Aragorn - various, but nothing about games, because they're not from games.
But if anyone wants, an additional category for licensed characters in video games can be created (with sub-categories if needed, such as for Marvel comics characters etc). -- Niemti ( talk) 10:15, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
In fact, I already wanted to split licensed characters into a sub-cat of the rarily inclusive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Video_game_bosses and then to populate it further (there are lots of such characters, of course), but I can't think of a non-awkward name for it. -- Niemti ( talk) 11:03, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Seems that the website has been having some technical difficulties or maybe its being closed permanently. Should we archive the links? My phone cant load archive sites for some reason. Lucia Black ( talk) 20:51, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Ok thanx. I'll link these right away. Lucia Black ( talk) 06:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
OK, so many of video game characters are spamming the comics and film categories while they're from video games mainly. It's contributing to the main comics characters category having 527 characters that often didn't really "originated in comics." How about categories for vg characters who make licensed appearances in other media, maybe "Video game characters in other media", and form that "Video game characters in television series" etc? (Or one could just start removing them. That's an alternative.)
Also, how to name a sub-category of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Video_game_bosses for the appearances of licensed characters? (Same would apply for protagonists, sidekicks, and secret characters, that are currently for mainly-vg characters only, while the bosses category is much more inclusive.) -- Niemti ( talk) 17:15, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
I'll do the first one as proposed, the other part I still don't know how to name it. -- Niemti ( talk) 17:31, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
So from the looks at the percentages on the project's front page, we are within one percent to getting 10% of our project's articles to C-class or higher. Since we're almost to that mark, what milestone should we replace it with once the goal is met? GamerPro64 17:38, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi everybody,
Concering this template, what do we consider a franchise? Cause to me a franchise means not just a series, but everything associated with a fictional universe: video games, movies, toys, comics, etc. Franchise could be used for both though, but right now this template includes stand-alone games (i.e., Gravity Rush, PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale). Should those be taken out? --Soetermans. T / C 12:08, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Soetermans, the same issue came up with the Nintendo Template as well - "which ones are Nintendo Franchises, and which ones are just games on Nintendo platforms?" We (I) split it into two categories; first party ones that are completely done by Nintendo, (Super Mario]]), and 2nd/3rd party ones that are done by other companies but published by Nintendo or pretty much locked into Nintendo consoles ( Golden Sun). If majority of a series appeared on another consoles, then they were not included. (The Xeno (series).) Sergecross73 msg me 13:15, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Hey everyone, punting this over to WT:VG to hopefully get some more opinions on a subject that impacted Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary's FA, and I'd like to start up a discussion while I improve the article to resubmit. At the FAC User:Hanchen argued that I should reword the section to strip out reviewer's names and use publications instead, so "IGN said X" rather than "GameSpot editor Chris Watters wrote" or variations thereof. I can certainly see his point (echoed by User:Czar on the talk page) that the names are not as recognizable as the publications, and so referring to the reviewer's comments can be a bit harder to link.
On the other hand, my concern is that we're linking writer's statements and opinions to entities that can't have opinions, namely a games journo outlet. This is different from "Gamespot reported", we're saying "Gamespot thinks this", even if it's a single reviewer (and in many cases there are different reviews from the same parent, e.g. IGN UK/AU/US.) The reviews aren't something the outlets "stand behind" in that it's a consistent opinion; later "top ten" lists or second opinion articles regularly challenge what was said before, so I'm uncomfortable not making the distinction; hence why I've used a similar formulation for a while (e.g. Halo Wars, Halo 3: ODST, et al.)
Thoughts?
Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs( talk) 14:09, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
These are two related issues involving the use of the aggregate review sites Metacritic and Gamerankings.
It is common (though it is a practice I don't like) to call out the specifics of the MC/GR rankings in the first para of prose about a game's reception, with statements like "It received a 80.23% aggregate score from 23 reviews from Metacritic".
First is the digits of precision. I know that MC and GR report the numbers to this level of detail but given how they do their work, the 3rd digit is barely in the area of being precise and the fourth digit is well beyond that. In other words, their aggregate scores are reasonably statistically significant to the first 2 digits (80, above), but anything more is being overly precise given their systems. But because editors tend to include these two digits, what starts to happen is that IPs and other editors tend to frequently update these numbers, in particular if a game is multiconsole and the accuracy of these numbers puts their preferred console over another. After about 3-5 days of a game's release, the number should have settled down that at worst the aggregate score changes by a point (on a 100 point scale), so all these edits after that are just overly-fine tuning. It's a lot of excessive busywork for unimportant numbers. I would rather encourage us to report MC and GR to 2 digits (or one, if the game happens to get less than a 10 out of 100 rating), such that frequent updating can be avoided and we're giving more appropriate broad strokes to these scores as all they are are meant as a rough guide to a game's reception.
That points to the fact in prose that a lot of weight is given to these scores. If one is using the VG reviews table, the scores will be right there, and I'm not seeing the need to go into detail about the scores (particularly for a multi-console game). I agree it is a good way to start a reception section, to tell the reader the general average rating the game got, but we don't need the finer breakdown of how many reviews, etc. Having a bulk of numbers at the start of prose like this weakens the reception sections. But it may be that this is tied with the digits of precision above, as this produces just a lot of extra numbers that can blur clear prose reading. -- MASEM ( t) 14:23, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
If you have a suitable Metacritic score, drop Gamerankings. I've mentioned this at article reviews before. Metacritic is the industry standard, it is a reliable source, we trust it to provide an accurate consensus score. Adding Gamerankings as well (and any other aggregators) is just redundancy. - hahnch e n 21:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to fix the article up a bit. I'm not planning on getting it to GA status, in fact, I might not even get it past stub or start status, but I would like to get it referenced and at least provide a little bit more information. A question on the talk page of the article is related to revenue received by people making LP videos, so that's one of the areas I'd like to expand the article on. I've begun searching for sources, but so far I've found zilch. Most of what is available comes from forums, wikis, or other unreliable sources. I did find this and I might search more into that Senate bill, but I don't want to focus on that since it would really be undue, especially in regards to the size of the article. In any case, can anyone help me find a few sources? Ryan Vesey 19:54, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
I was thinking of starting this WikiProject to expand on eroge articles, but I'm unsure about it cause I lack some experience on Wikipedia. Is anybody interested? -- (B)~(ー.ー)~(Z) ( talk) 09:23, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
All right. G-Zay has been indef banned per community consensus. Is it time to take action and launch a WP:CCI on him? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 17:32, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
CCI isn't the right venue; he didn't violate copyright, he just made up sources (and information). Not sure if there is a process in place for things like this- what did they do with that guy who made up all those sources on music articles? User:Legolas2186? G-Zay had 1576 edits to article space, and fortunately a lot of them are going to be those quibbling edits to infoboxes that he loved so much, the majority of which have been reverted in any case as TMI. I guess someone's going to have to go through them all sequentially- I ripped out his contributions to Final Fantasy 6, but I don't think that article-by-article is the way to go here, necessarily. -- Pres N 19:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Comment : Sorry , but I am not G-zay but I really see some right information about the SNES and PS1 Era on Wiki jap and some interview page so i just add but really not good at writing so I copy the old one with some edit . Also in others wikipage Ito really invole with Final Fantasy VII concept system and he is really lyric writer for " melody of life " in FFIX and " Dear friend album " in FFV . You can check the credit of FFIX for information about the lyric .
ps : This is my first time using Wiki edit . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azure223 ( talk • contribs) 10:59, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Comment :
Well , You guys are rude . you accused me G zay when I was not even a English speaker. When I see you guy delete all the information , I try to search on Jap page to find some infor that can be keep . I come to this disscusion because I click into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xiomicronpi gameplay system such as junction , meteria , FF tactic: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Hiroyuki_It%C5%8D , http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BC%8A%E8%97%A4%E8%A3%95%E4%B9%8B The lyric writer is a right part . If you guy delete that , i can concluse that you never play Final Fantasy 9 and the others FF . For Final fantasy V http://squaremusic.ffworld.com/?comp=uematsu&page=ff5df.htm Paroles : Yoshihiko Maekawa (5), Hiroyuki Ito (11) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azure223 ( talk • contribs) 11:25, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
I've been in discussion with another registered user concerning some additions he made to Metal Arms: Glitch in The System. They look to me like trivial information that doesn't belong on Wikipedia, but he argues that he put it here to preserve it, as external wikis devoted to this game are soon to be shut down. Is there any reason to retain the additions, or any way to integrate them into the article better? Larrythefunkyferret ( talk) 04:30, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Ok fellas, quick query of y'all. Earlier today, someone added the BFG Edition box art to the Doom 3 article, in its appropriate section. Now, I can't help feel that it seems entirely unnecessary, just shoehorned in for the sake of showing the box art. Being so far down the article anyway doesn't exactly meet our usual rationale as means of identification for the reader. To me it just doesn't add anything; certainly in this case it doesn't seem so drastically radical it needs to be shown (being just the logo from the original box on a black background). I do note that there are articles, such as The Secret of Monkey Island and Myst that don't bother with showing any re-release artwork. I can't, however, express that in a way relating to current practice or guidelines. Any precedents, thoughts or so on regarding this sort of thing? -- Sabre ( talk) 18:00, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Sonic Adventure is now a GA! I am also planning to take Sonic the Hedgehog (1991 video game). Before I go, I want to let everyone know that I have worked on 11 GAs and at least 10 FAs and have at least improved video game articles to the highest degree. Any thoughts? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 01:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
The current discussion about captions in infoboxes (and specifically in videogame infoboxes) seems to be drifting towards the removal of captions. Rather than this information being blithely removed from articles, would it be possible to alter the Caption field in the template, so that it was used as alt-text for the image, and thus available for users that use screen readers etc? Just deleting it would seem a stupid thing to do, when we could put it to a good use. - X201 ( talk) 08:19, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
File:Mario-and-luigi-dream-team-3-630x354.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.250.103 ( talk) 05:17, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
There is a new subsection in the Reception section of the The Legend of Zelda article about the recent criticism the series has received about the role of women within them (quite well deserved in my opinion, but I shall remain impartial in terms of the article's references and wording). Can anyone help with seeing whether the section needs to stay. There has already been a small conflict between two unregistered users as to whether the section belongs there or not (which can be seen in the article's edit history. It had problems anyway, with some dreadful spelling and grammar, which I have corrected, and some work seems to have been done by another editor to correct biased wording or something like that, but I think the references need a look over and the thing in general needs to be looked over in terms of notoriety and possible bias. I don't think I'm qualified to look at this, so could someone more experienced do it? -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 22:13, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Let's continue this discussion on the article's talk page, please. czar · · 00:09, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Should we be tagging review pages (GAN, etc.) as project pages on the talk page? I can't find previous dialogue about this. It would help keep track of the reviews related to the project, though perhaps this is viewed as needless, unhelpful work. Anyway, wanted to throw it out there. czar · · 04:04, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion about the above at Template_talk:Infobox_video_game#De-Link_.2F_Rename_.22Media.2FDistribution.22 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkwarriorblake ( talk • contribs) 12:24, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion about merging these two articles. Your input is welcome. Jonathan Hardin' ( talk) 12:16, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Could someone in the know quickly check the notability of the section "Zod Engine (remake)"? S.G.(GH) ping! 21:04, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
should Atari not be merged with Atari Corporation ? It's basicly the same entity in name and has at some point been devided up between the two articles. There was a conversation about a merge, but lacked any input because no one appears to have looked. Govvy ( talk) 20:51, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Just in the first two lines of each article, it appears to me that Atari is scoped to the brand name and Atari Corp is scoped to the company that existed between 1984 and 1996. It seems sensible to me that they should remain separate articles. -- Izno ( talk) 20:54, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
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Some heavy edits by Ryulong have been done to the template. it seems excessive, and the chain of tiny edits to comply with the previous tiny edits need to stop. The issue on the surrent page's layout is here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucia Black ( talk • contribs) 19:52, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
I know this is pretty old, but can anyone look at my proposal regarding character articles and provide some advice on this or is it needed on WP:VG/GL? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 04:29, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
When I raised it up at WT:VG/GL#RfC: Time to implement the character notability proposal?, WhatamIdoing ( talk · contribs) has stated that we need to change the tag regarding WP:VG/GL, as it is a guideline, and to skip WP:PROPOSAL. Thoughts about this? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 19:39, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Every year, the Game Developers Conference release their images onto Flickr with free-use licenses. Normally someone drops a reminder on this talk page too - but it looks like we forgot this year. So I'm reminding you now.
We may already have a lot of photos for industry figures on commons, but this year GDC have exceeded themselves - you will never ever find a better picture of Michael Pachter, ever. If you need to figure out who's who in those 80s images, the facebook galleries at [24] [25] [26] might help. Take a look through the the flickr, find the useful images (there are some genuinely useful ones of the GDC and IGF winners), and use commons:User:Flickr upload bot to upload images into commons:Category:Game Developers Conference. - hahnch e n 18:54, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Just so everyone knows, I will be taking a temporary Wikibreak for at least 5-7 days to let off some steam and get myself reenergized. Some of the stress has got to me, so I think it's best if I should take a couple of days off. I also have final exams coming up as well. I will only be back to work on certain articles like Sonic the Hedgehog (1991 video game) and the Lightning saga. Till then, adios. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 20:07, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Also, just to clarify, some of the stress stems from the recent disputes that I have been involved in as well as my frustration over Wikipedia's inability to deal with a couple of persistently disruptive users (i.e. those with a bullying or battleground mentality in general or those who seem to be oblivious to their own uncivil behaviors), combined with realization of my unintended immaturity in some of my approaches to dealing with these users (including my unintentional feeding of the Streisand effect), a couple of users' comments towards me were in a negative light and/or condescending (I have exceptionally low tolerance for these comments which were uncalled for, and one of these users has already apologized to me after I apologized to him for any issues I may have caused). I have been recently subjected to very serious personal abuse and constant uncivil behavior by these users, but I have mostly moved on from that. Also, some of the users have been trying to discredit my views, which I do not appreciate. Such things like these are considered a disgrace to the community and to an editor with an excellent contribution record, which is myself. Also, I fear that if I engage a disruptive user while trying to avoid them, I may push the wrong buttons accidentally. These reasons are a couple of the factors in my Wikibreak, and are also why I refuse to get involved in dealing with other difficult users until the time is right because it causes me undue stress. In the past, while I have almost always been civil, I may have caused issues with other users (disruptive or not) in anyway or might have been uncivil in any way towards anyone and I do not appreciate it when people are incivil or condescending towards me, so if I have done that or anything wrong, I am terribly sorry and I really didn't mean for some things to happen... Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 14:20, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
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Need another set of eyes over at World in Conflict. Last 20 or so edits have been reverts of content regarding a mod of the game, which an IP is currently reinserting. -- ferret ( talk) 17:15, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Request to merge Freeciv.net into Freeciv. Discussion >>>HERE<<<. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 07:52, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
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G-Zay (see ban discussion and cleanup plan) is back with IP sockpuppets 89.240.41.89 and 92.18.158.199 vandalising articles Motomu Toriyama and Yoshinori Kitase. I've reverted for now but don't think it'll last long as he constantly hops UK IPs at Internet cafés. I don't know where to report this so I put it here. The third of his vandalised articles is Hiroyuki Ito which is protected. Should the same go for the other two? Xiomicronpi ( talk) 10:12, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. GamerPro64 19:16, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
The project currently delsorts (sorts deletion discussions and notices) manually. I understand this was the popular opinion three years ago and that the last discussion kind of stagnated (it isn't a very exciting topic), but time has certainly passed. Article Alerts currently tracks any articles, categories, etc. tagged into WPVG and publishes results daily. The video games delsort page is kept separate from the other topics, uses a custom template, and requires manual archiving. That whole process can be automated like the other topics if we were to switch. I went to archive posts March 4 through April 26 (7/8th of the page, which severely impedes pageload speed), but was put off by the amount of (needless?) work that goes into refactoring for the archive page.
Has consensus changed in the past several years, and, if so, can we finally convert to the current delsort system? Are WPVGers still receiving added benefit from manual delsort considering both Article Alerts and the perks of automated delsort ( see how the other topics work)? As a delsorter, I'd be willing to do the conversion work and logistics, as I currently waste time in our manual upkeep. czar · · 01:02, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
The WP:VisualEditor is designed to let people edit without needing to learn wikitext syntax. The articles will look (nearly) the same in the new edit "window" as when you read them (aka WYSIWYG), and changes will show up as you type them, very much like writing a document in a modern word processor. The devs currently expect to deploy the VisualEditor as the new site-wide default editing system in early July 2013.
About 2,000 editors have tried out this early test version so far, and feedback overall has been positive. Right now, the VisualEditor is available only to registered users who opt-in, and it's a bit slow and limited in features. You can do all the basic things like writing or changing sentences, creating or changing section headings, and editing simple bulleted lists. It currently can't either add or remove templates (like fact tags), ref tags, images, categories, or tables (and it will not be turned on for new users until common reference styles and citation templates are supported). These more complex features are being worked on, and the code will be updated as things are worked out. Also, right now you can only use it for articles and user pages. When it's deployed in July, the old editor will still be available and, in fact, the old edit window will be the only option for talk pages ( WP:Notifications (aka Echo) is supposed to deal with talk pages).
The developers are asking editors like you to join the alpha testing for the VisualEditor. Please go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing and tick the box at the end of the page, where it says "Enable VisualEditor (only in the main namespace and the User namespace)". Save the preferences, and then try fixing a few typos or copyediting a few articles by using the new "Edit" tab instead of the section [Edit] buttons or the old editing window (which will still be present and still work for you, but which will be renamed "Edit source"). Fix a typo or make some changes, and then click the 'save and review' button (at the top of the page). See what works and what doesn't. We really need people who will try this out on 10 or 15 pages and then leave a note Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback about their experiences, especially if something mission-critical isn't working and doesn't seem to be on anyone's radar.
Also, if any of you are involved in template maintenance or documentation about how to edit pages, the VisualEditor will require some extra attention. The devs want to incorporate things like citation templates directly into the editor, which means that they need to know what information goes in which fields. Obviously, the screenshots and instructions for basic editing will need to be completely updated. The old edit window is not going away, so help pages will likely need to cover both the old and the new.
If you have questions and can't find a better place to ask them, then please feel free to leave a message on [[User talk:WhatamIdoing|my user talk page, and perhaps together we'll be able to figure it out. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 00:56, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
1) as of just now, I'm a member of this WikiGroup. After seven years of editing (mostly) video game articles, I think it was about to time actually join. You might've spotted this frequent edit of mine in VG infoboxes: [[single-player]] -> [[single-player video game|single-player]] 2) just a little heads-up: Fazm1bico ( talk · contribs) is active again. Though a lot of his edits are of a constructive nature, in the past he also made some erros and did not communicate at all. I do of course assume good faith, so hopefully this time he'll be nice. But I did have to warn him earlier for making a unnecessary piped link, which he did all the time last year. Anyhoo, glad to be part of the team. For real, this time. --Soetermans. T / C 11:44, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
How do you do it? For example, I just moved List of God of War characters to Characters of God of War, but I don't know how to make the display title for "God of War" on the page italicized. -- JDC808 ♫ 05:38, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
So the StarCraft titles Featured Topic's grace period is about to end on the 12th. Is it possible for anyone to try to improve it to at least GA status before that happens? Or at least when the 12th comes and goes someone can place it at Good Topic Review? I have other topics on the backburner to get them on there but I don't want to clog the review page. GamerPro64 15:07, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
"improve it to at least GA status"→ improve HotS to GA, right? czar · · 16:43, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys,
Like I said earlier, Fazm1bico ( talk · contribs) is back. This user main interest seems to be video game engines, and that's fine. But he doesn't follow the guidelines and does not communicate at all. His edits over the last two days have been the same once more: adding Capital Letters to genres, making unnecessary piped links, being too descriptive of a video game engine in the infobox and adding (and re-adding) unnecessary breaks for platforms. I'm getting really tired of cleaning up after this guy, but I'm not sure what to do next. Assuming good faith, I do think he means good, but he just doesn't seem to listen. Any help? --Soetermans. T / C 11:46, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Hello, everyone. It's been a long time since I left Wikipedia, but it seems I'm back for the time being. Anyway, I've got a peer review going for Sega v. Accolade at WP:PR, and I'd like some feedback to help improve it, with the goal of nominating it for GA-status soon. Thanks! Red Phoenix build the future... remember the past... 22:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
I hate to ask in advance, but aside from FFXI, are there any upcoming TFAs pertaining to video games for this month or this year for that matter? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 02:43, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that the Famitsu's website now lists the review scores from Weekly Famitsu and Famitsu Xbox 360 on the games' pages (as an example [27]; and in the former's case, a few sentences from the reviews). Each game that received reviews from Weekly Famitsu now has a "Famitsu Cross Review" (ファミ通クロスレビュー) section in its "infobox" that shows the score combined from the four individual reviews. The pages also include a few sentences from the reviews and the Famitsu Xbox 360 scores under the "This game's assessments" (このゲームの評価) section. That section does also include reviews from users and blogs, though.
Hope this helps verifying Famitsu scores/reviews in the articles.-- クラ ウド 668 09:15, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources#Foreign language sources for consideration. Thanks in advance.-- Atlantima ~✿~ ( talk) 16:36, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Should we implement the B-Class checklist as part of the WP:VG assessment? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 01:59, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Any thoughts on or objections to setting up A-class assessment subpages similar to MILHIST's A-class process (per Torchiest's suggestion)? I'd be willing to write up the draft if there is consensus in favor. (Maybe the current Riddick nom could be first?) czar · · 20:49, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Would appreciate feedback on questions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Assessment/A-Class review (talk page) if y'all have a chance czar · · 08:46, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
I've nominated Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association for GA status, and I'd appreciate an informed reviewer. Please have a look and maybe write a review. Thanks, BDD ( talk) 18:27, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi - my video games knowledge is very minimal, so I'd be grateful for some input here before going any further.
The recently created article Zardgame, appears to be basically a copy/paste of ArchKnight, which was itself redirected a long time ago, and seems to be largely copied from AdventureQuest.
The same user created the new article, and undid the redirect/creating ArchKnight.
Should either of these 2 articles exist, and if so, does anyone here want to look at what content they should include, or is the best plan to do what I originally intended to do and just redirect both to AQ? Thanks. Begoon talk 03:46, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
image:OpenEmuHeroScreenshot.jpg has been nominated for deletion, concerns revolve around the appropriateness of the inclusion of NES material. -- 65.94.76.126 ( talk) 05:53, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Not sure when the goal was reached but as a project we have over 10% of our articles at least C-class. Congrats to everyone. GamerPro64 14:19, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
10% of articles C-Class or better: 254.3% complete | ||
Alright, so what do we want to replace it with? Front-runners from last time are Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/2012 Stubcheck progress (either stubs or starts), 20% C+ class, or 50%+ Start class. I vote 50%+ Start class. -- Pres N 04:21, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
I have done some significant work on the article, pretty much created the current development section from scratch and replaced the old system requirements box with a more sensible version. I would value more opinions, and if people can suggest ways of improving it or finding other references if the current ones are not suitable would be much appreciated. The article just looked as though it needed working on, so I did it. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 13:44, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
For this months Featured Article that's going to be on the front page is Final Fantasy XI on the 16th. This date is special as it will be the 11th anniversary of the games release. GamerPro64 14:41, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Come and vote on the nomination please, it would be great to have your feedback. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 00:08, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Hey everybody,
I have some problems with the GTA infobox. Rather I bring it to you kind gentle folks, instead of editing first and going into an almost immediate tug of war. Let's get to it then. Right now, it looks like this:
The subsections for 'video games' seem off to me. The two orignal games are listed as '2D'. A top-down perspective is of course 2D, but I think many a gamer and surely an average person thinks of 2D as a side-scroller platformer and/or shooter. Ya know, Duke Nukem blasting aliens, not running Hare Krisnhas over with a tank. After the transition into 3D games the infobox makes a distinction between the previous generation and the current, into 3D and HD. To me that sounds HD isn't 3D, when they of course are both. That brings up another problem, because I think it is safe to assume that every GTA title from now 'till the end of time will be in high-definition. Or ultra HD. Or megaultra HD. Or... That's why I suggest we change 2D, 3D and the current roster of HD into their respective generations of consoles, sixth, seventh, and eigth. Even if a hardcore PC gamer objects that GTA through IV also came out on PC, it still makes sense graphics and game-size wise, also with the future in mind.
Now you! --Soetermans. T / C 12:45, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
User:Salvidrim/Template:GTANavBox
Claude Speed needs to be merged, other characters need work. -- Niemti ( talk) 15:21, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
The Sega and Nintendo logos are listed on Commons as PD. Would we be able to use them as the logos for the task forces? The current Sega icon is a bronze blob. czar · · 03:38, 13 May 2013 (UTC)