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This question was brought up by me at Talk:Guitar Hero III Mobile, however, I believe that asking the community involved in the video games project could better answer this. So here goes:
Does the publisher's "official title" of a video game take precedence over what a retail store would call the same product? For example, publisher Hands-On Mobile ( handson.com) calls the mobile phone version Guitar Hero III Mobile while Rogers (an online retail store) just calls it Guitar Hero III. This conflicts with the console/computer version published by Activision ( PS2, PS3, Wii, Xbox 360, PC, and Mac) called Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock, which is also known as Guitar Hero III or sometimes Guitar Hero 3 for short (both redirect to the full title). There is a hatnote at the top of Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock which provides a link to the mobile phone game, so I don't see why there should be a problem. Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 01:19, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Ignore retailers. As Jappalang said, go with The game's own cover, gaming sites and the publishers name of it. - X201 ( talk) 08:17, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
What should be done with the review box in the case of Resident Evil 4? Should all four versions have reviews listed in the same box or should just one be chosen for it? Also, the article could still use quite a bit of help at this point if anyone feels like it. TTN ( talk) 16:12, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm thinking of deleted Albion (Fable) per notability, in world, and lack of cites, what do you guys think? Gears of War 2 17:40, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I hate to be a convassar but can we use User:Gears of War/Video Game Cabal as our offcial cabal, I think you guys will like the project aim. Gears of War 2 20:38, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I've rewritten pixologist and encourage you to visit Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pixologist to see if concerns have been addressed. Please note that a name change to pixel artist is almost assured if the article is kept. Banjeboi 21:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
This assortment of articles has been taken to AFD with no consensus, but it still needs much improvement to keep it around, so I think perhaps we could merge them into a Blizzard software article, and merge the fan created software to either the World of Warcraft article or making a Software of World of Warcraft article. Thoughts? Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 20:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay I just made a cabal that was created to focus on one article at a time and then the entire cabal would have helped to get that article to at least GA status(or even FA). So I then requested the cabal to be deleted after a long talk about it and so i then had a conversation with Keeper 76 and xeno about the cabal after the deletion. Afterwords, xeno suggested a GA FA taskforce in WP:VG that would do the same thing my cabal would have done. So now i come before the grand court known as WP:VG to suggest a GA FA taskforce. My taskforce will pick one article at a time to build, move to another and and build that one. This would give WP:VG many more GA and FA. Consider my proposal. Gears of War 2 21:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I thought this was derivative work but I have been told different so I just want to make sure, is this derivative work or not?
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I'm just wondering, but in games that allow user-created content, could that be considered a derivative work? - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I'm bringing it here because I seriously need more eyes on it. People keep adding crap about personal details that surely violate WP:NOT#PLOT and completely disregard WP:WAF, and any attempts to prune it simply result in it coming back, again and again. I'm very tired of this. Can I get some people to watchlist and soemone (like TTN) to sweep through and prune the article? hbdragon88 ( talk) 03:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
For characters that are unlockable stickers and trophies for Brawl, is it really necessary to list it in the character article? I strongly feel it's trivial content and not that notable. See the history of Rouge the Bat for one example. I've been trying to remove it, but others just keep re-adding it back. RobJ1981 ( talk) 01:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
You're acting a bit paranoid. Let's calm done for a few minutes. Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R. 01:33, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Whoa, slow down both of you. Rob, ever consider that maybe Skeletal is trying to make a legitimate point? Skeletal, ever consider that maybe you're pushing on Rob a little hard? Just forget your past conflicts and talk about the issue. Red Phoenix flame of life... protector of all... 01:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
If you mean a list of all characters that are just trophies or stickers, then listing them gives a disproportionate amount of weight to something extremely minor. Readers need to get the general idea behind them, that idea does not need bludgeoning into their skulls with a blunt, indiscriminate list fit for a fansite. Someone another 01:56, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Minor cameos are really scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of what can be said about the character. It doesn't exactly break any rules to include it, but I don't think it's worth trying to fit it into the existing prose: I've yet to see cameos written any way other than "<character> appears in <game> as <item>", which reads like a trivia bullet point and, unless you have a number of cameos, makes for very short paragraphs and/or sections. Nifboy ( talk) 03:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
This is pretty hard-core trivial silliness; it's bad in the Link article where there's actually something to say, and it's horrible everywhere else. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 04:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I believe Pokémon Platinum must be moved to Pocket Monsters Platinum due to the project's naming conventions. Thoughts? Megata Sanshiro ( talk) 10:08, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Right, I hope I can gauge the source-finders amongst you to help me out again with some sourcing. I'm currently rewriting Sam & Max Hit the Road, the old 1993 classic Lucasarts adventure game (and the first video game I ever played. Well, that and Doom. Ah the memories). However, I'm a little stuck for development sources. I've got a little bit of information on the designers, the engine and the music, as well as a brief bit of history of how it ended up as a video game, but beyond that I'm struggling. I figure I've probably got enough there as a bare minimum (once I reference it properly), but I'd really like to get my hands on some more. However, as its been 14 years, such information is hard to come by.
I'd also appreciate some help with reviews: most of them are in print sources, not online. I've got four working online reviews in addition to Allgame on Game Rankings, but only one (Adventure Gamers) I think is a confirmed reliable source. Are the others suitable for usage? If not, anyone got any other reviews I can use? Most of today's sources are too young to cover this. -- Sabre ( talk) 19:25, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm having a dispute over at Lego Batman about whether to include a list of the characters - I feel the list shouldn't be included, due to WP:NOT (wikipedia's not a list of information) and perhaps WP:GAMETRIVIA item 6. Also, none of the other Lego games contains lists, though their characters could be considered equally notable (at least in Star Wars' case). Just wondering what the overall view is, if the guidelines and other articles contain enough precedent enough to not include the list of characters, and if not, why not. Thanks! Fin © ™ 11:22, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
People want to know all the characters that they can play as in the game so why not show all the characters in the article. Ice ( talk) 18:02, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
My point about picking up a game guide (paid or the free ones you can find online) is that among the things that Wikipedia is not is a game guide. Wikipedia is not intended to include every minute detail, like every character that can be unlocked in a game. Wikipedia is here to consolidate notable information about a subject. If the game were to include a completely unforeseen character, such as Seth Green, then that would be considered notable, as most game sites would probably have an story confirming their confusion. However, since the minor characters are most likely expected, it's not notable and shouldn't be arbitrarily added. ~ QuasiAbstract { talk/ contrib} 03:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry everyone for constantly adding the characters back. Ice ( talk) 19:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
To "Dragon Warrior Monsters" - I proposed it on the DQM series page, and no one seemed to object (and one person supported it). Besides, first game should get preference over the series, just like Dragon Warrior has.
Take it easy, Link. It's not necessary to attack other users like that. The Prince ( talk) 00:03, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I have been cleaning the article of Kyo Kusanagi and now I was thinking of nominating it to GA. Do you think its okay? Im a bit worried about the grammar since English is not my first language, so could anybody pay look there? Thanks. Tintor2 ( talk) 01:35, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
A bit of opinion gathering.
Interactive movies are currently listed on Video game genres as a subgenre of adventure games. This seems inappropriate because the only element common to interactive movies is the constant presence of full-motion video. An adventure game is not an adventure game unless it involves strong elements of both plot and puzzles. The term "interactive movie" more appropriately relates to a presentation style to my mind, and shouldn't be treated as a genre any more than 3D games are. So I think the "genre" should go from the page.
In looking at the Interactive movie page, I also noticed an old proposal to merge Interactive movie with Full motion video based game. To me, the two pages seem to describe the same thing. The only difference I can think of is that an "interactive movie" suggests aspirations to emulate film, where "FMV-based game" is a dryer term. There have been a couple of comments supporting the merge since the initial proposal was withdrawn, so I thought I'd renew it.
Comments welcome both here and on the talk page for the merge proposal. Cheers. Playclever ( talk) 21:51, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
I've noticed that the "characters" articles on Wikipedia seem to be titled in two different ways: "characters of x" and "list of x characters". "List of x characters" end up being lists, while "characters of x" articles are just, well, articles. For example, why is list of characters in Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow a list, while characters of Kingdom Hearts not a list? They both appear to be lists. Can someone clarify this for me? Xnux the Echidna 03:35, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I was searching through this page's archives and found some comments regarding a "list of valid sources" for referencing video game related articles. Is there such a list and if so where can I find it? I've made a cursory search of the project and department pages in hoped of locating it but haven't had any luck thus far. S. Luke 02:28, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
We need to form a consensus on whether to remove extraneous release dates on this list, the discussion is here. - A Link to the Past (talk) 01:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Just curious, as Edge issue 5 has allegedly got a review of Sam & Max Hit the Road in it. Someone had added it as a reference before I started working on the article, and due to the lack of contempory reviews of the game online, getting hold of some printed reviews seems to be becoming a necessity. -- Sabre ( talk) 19:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone see any real potential in M.U.G.E.N? Pretty much everything is junk and it really doesn't seem to establish any real notability. TTN ( talk) 17:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
The peer review for Basil W. Duke, an article within the scope of the Military history WikiProject, is now open. The Military history WikiProject is currently partnering with our project to share peer reviews, so all editors are cordially invited to participate, and any input there would be very appreciated! Thanks! Kirill ( prof) 03:08, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
An FLC reviewer has stated that the format of the template does not exemplify "Wikipedia's best work" in the video game titles featured list and he proposes we add more information that can be found in the infoboxes in individual games, what does the project think about it?-- S R X 01:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
This is no longer productive. Unless and until someone can present some evidence that this show hosted on Gametrailers is subject to editorial process, there's nothing more to discuss.
I will cheerfully block anyone who reopens (or opens a new discussion) to comment on other Wikipedia editors. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 01:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I know this isn't a place for general discussion, but this needs to be done. I don't want to be an Angry Video Game Nerd fan anymore. I used to like him, but he's done and said too much stuff that I didn't appreciate (He even made fun of my birthyear 1988). Plus I cannot stand his hordes upon hordes of mindless suck-ups who defend every bad thing he does. Since you people don't like him either, I need you to do me a favor. I need you to officially undeclare me an AVGN fan. That will ease a lot of stress in my mind, and I can finally move on... 24.247.134.174 ( talk) 11:49, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles like the Early Years series and really short, and some like Mario Teaches Typing 2 could be added in the prequel article without it's own article, since it's not that long. So I am thinking, should some of the educational games be merged. I mean, the Early Years series could be fit in one article, just like with the Zelda CD-I games. Magiciandude ( talk) 19:12, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Please see the fracas at Talk:Unreal#Unofficial 227 patch and the follow-on blacklisting request at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#oldunreal.com. This appears to be a dispute between an established editor, Ham Pastrami, and multiple anonymous IPs and single purpose accounts. If you look at the blacklisting request, you'll see stuff about off-Wikipedia canvassing and some name-calling directed at Ham Pastrami.
We should get a consensus of established Wikipedia editors on the suitability of this link before deciding what to do with the blacklisting request. Please make comments at Talk:Unreal#Unofficial 227 patch. Thanks, -- A. B. ( talk • contribs) 02:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Has anyone noticed the plethora of small Beatmania articles we have? Take a look at Beatmania IIDX (video game), Beatmania IIDX 2nd Style, Beatmania IIDX 3rd Style, all the way up to Beatmania IIDX 10th Style. Is there actually enough information to make full articles out of these, or are they going to stay stubs forever? Pagra shtak 19:21, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
I'll call your Beatmania games and raise you Dance Dance Revolution. To be fair to them there are some good ones in there but there are some that are nothing but a glorified track-list and some that just restate the same as five other articles - X201 ( talk) 08:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Dear WikiProject Video games participants... WikiProject Media franchises needs some help from other projects which are similar. Media franchises' scope deals primarily with the coordination of articles within the hundreds if not thousands of media franchises which exist. Sometimes a franchise might just need color coordination of the various templates used; it could mean creating an article for the franchise as a jump off point for the children of it; or the creation of a new templating system for media franchise articles. The project primarily focuses on multimedia franchises. It would be great if some of this project's participants would come over and help the project get back on solid footing. Also, if you know of similar projects which have not received this, let Lady Aleena ( talk · contribs) know. Please come and take a look at the project and see if you wish to lend a hand. You can sign up here if you wish. Thank you. LA @ 21:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Just curious, was Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Destroy All Humans! discussed on this page before being created? Usually we need to establish some consensus here before setting up a new task force. JACO PLANE • 2008-08-5 20:33 20:33, 05 August 2008 (UTC)
I have a question regarding commercials and other TV ads. On occasion they're vital to cite for promotion purposes or other subjects related to a subject. But how do you go about doing it in cases where the best source is a Youtube recording or similar, as AFAIK there isn't an archive of some sort that keeps track of commercials and can be cited...is there?-- Kung Fu Man ( talk) 14:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
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Dear WikiProject Video games participants... WikiProject Media franchises is currently discussing a naming convention for franchise articles. Since this may affect one or more articles in your project, we would like to get the opinions of all related projects before implimenting any sweeping changes. Please come and help us decide. Thanks! LA ( T) @ 22:10, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm new here, So do tell me if I'm posting in the wrong place or whatever, but I've come to point out a mistake. In the Fable II Pub Games article, it states; "Any money earned from these games will be turned into experience points in Fable II, at a rate of one gold per XP for the linked character; however, part of the risk is that debt incurred has negative consequences on the character.[4][5] Each tournament allows the player to win one of 15 unique items that instantly becomes available to a chosen character in Fable II.[5]"
I'm following the Fable 2 development reasonably closely, and have the Pub Games myself, and the gold won in the games isn't converted to XP for the character, it's just given to the linked player in cold, hard cash. Nothing XP related is handled by the Pub Games.
The pub games are a way to give some players a head-start with filling their wallets, as you can no longer earn gold from completing any of the main quests, only through collecting fallen enemies spoils, doing 'jobs', or gambling.
-- KoKroach ( talk) 01:55, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
EDIT: Just noticed this too, under the Fortunes Tower rules; "The player may opt once per game to overturn the top card, the "Gate" card, to replace a losing card."
The Gate card is overturned automatically in the event of a misfortune.
Small point, but hey, while I'm posting.
(I'd change it myself, that one probably goes under 'minor edit', but I know what some of the mods can be like for resetting any changes, so I though I'd tell you first.)
-- KoKroach ( talk) 02:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Several VG FAs are languishing at WP:FAC: The World Ends with You and 4X. I encourage experienced editors to contribute (and maybe to non-VG articles too, but we should take care of our own first :P) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk) 03:10, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way to left-align the VG Reviews box? On Bionic Commando Rearmed, there are three right-aligned boxes in a fairly short page and the layout is quite messy on high resolution monitors. It's only minor but if anyone can think of a way to improve the layout it would be good. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 22:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Er, I said a while ago that I would revive the WP:GCOTW. Obviously I haven't got round to getting that done yet. Reading over the discussion again, I did not exactly get the feeling that there was a great deal of enthusiasm for a weekly/bi-weekly collaboration, so I thought I would raise the issue again. This project will only work if there are at least a few contributors committed to working on it regularly. The old GCOTW died out because not enough people were participating (well, also because I stopped updating the nomination process, Thunderbrand was a lot more consistant than I was). So, what do we do? JACO PLANE • 2008-08-14 11:46
Short time limts go against the grain of this being a volunteer hobby rather than a career, if editors lose interest or hit the wall with one particlar article we can always agree on the talk page to pick up the next article. You could always put essential articles in a 'collaboration of the month' slot so that they progressively improve, as well as a separate section where a start or stub class article is tethered for us to boost to GA or as close as it will go (no time limit). That way there's a collaborative project to chip away at as and when, as well as an ongoing improvement drive for the precious, er, high importance articles. Someone another 18:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
An anon editor is insisting on this change [2] to the real-time strategy article, giving Starcraft its own sub-section (the only game to receive such a treatment). Starcraft was already mentioned as a highlight previously, and since the article is about the genre as a whole, singling out this game for a separate discussion seems like undue weight and POV. Of course Starcraft is a big title, but this change seems more like exposition for the game than information about the genre. We've already gone back and forth several times with reverts, and the anon has yet to explain his reasoning. (After the first revert, he also saw fit to vandalize my user page. [3]) I'd appreciate if other editors could assist in reaching a decision or compromise. Ham Pastrami ( talk) 02:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
The RTS article needs to be updated atleast to Good article. -- SkyWalker ( talk) 05:46, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
I have not yet approached these specific articles on this, but in light of what I'm seeing for Stilwater (the Saints row location, which I have suggested for AFD to be merged to Saints Row) I think we need to cut these articles down (specifically Liberty City, Vice City and San Andreas (Grand Theft Auto)) into a single "List of locations in the Grand Theft Auto series". Basically, the way these articles are written make the work fall between a fictional travel guide and a game guide. I have not seen anything about how the cities were designed, created, or so forth, and even if there are interviews to say "yes, Liberty City is supposed to be NYC", that's not enough to justify a full length article on that point describing what fictional restaurant chains there are in it. Is this going to be barking up the wrong tree ? -- MASEM 04:12, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
See: List of Virtual Console games (Australia) and List of Virtual Console games (Europe) to see the column. Is this column needed? Just because they had issues with converting it to a PAL version doesn't justify it needs to be on those lists. I'm not sure if this would fall under game guide content or not? I'm sure some people find it "useful" when looking for games to get, however I don't see it suitable for Wikipedia. If the issues are major (and actually notable): list them on the game article instead. This is somewhat similar to lists of glitch lists I see on game articles sometimes: it's useful to some people, but it simply isn't important content (unless it's a major glitch that actually has reliable sources and/or media coverage) for this site. What does everyone else think? RobJ1981 ( talk) 07:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I know I've asked for help before but I need really critical eyes here for The World Ends with You's FAC. I've had about 4 different experienced editors ce and it's still getting comments that its hard to follow. Particularly if you have not played this game, I encourage you to go there and, even if not CE'ing, give the article (talk or to me) feedback as to what you find confusing. A word of warning: 90% of the problem is that this is a "game within a game" that uses terms that we'd normally used to describe a live player interacting with a game, to describe how the characters interact with the game-within-a-game. I need to make sure any such points are ID'd so that the text can be corrected around them. -- MASEM 13:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
The peer review for Hughie Edwards, an article within the scope of the Military history WikiProject, is now open. The Military history WikiProject is currently partnering with our project to share peer reviews, so all editors are cordially invited to participate, and any input there would be very appreciated! Thanks! Kirill ( prof) 12:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
User:A Link to the Past/List of songs in Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Not going to be proposing anything at the moment, just want to see if anyone'd be interested in filling the Development and Reception sections. - A Link to the Past (talk) 20:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Once again JAF is claiming ownership. See Talk:Spore_(2008_video_game)#Do_NOT_remove_sourced_info as the recent example. He has a serious attitude problem anytime something gets removed from the article, and I'm sick of dealing with it. RobJ1981 ( talk) 17:02, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
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I recently prod'd Madden NFL 2010 per WP:CRYSTAL and the fact it's based around a single "source" that admits it hasn't been officially confirmed. The prod was contested, I'm just wondering what the next step is - is it AfD? Thanks! Fin © ™ 00:03, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Old topic here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games/Archive_31#id_tech_.28x.29_names_or_old_names.3F
In that discussion I see no clear consensus yet a user is changing the Q2 and Q3 pages to 'Quake 3 Engine' etc as if this is policy. I disagree with this change, there is no useful information inherent in 'Quake 3 Engine', it's redundant, using 'id Tech 3' places it as a part of a series of engines, is less confusing when discussing other games using the engines and matches future games from id. The alternative of retaining old names in addition to using the newer names for new games with id engines makes no sense, there is no inherent value nor nostalgia in the old names and in information terms the new ones are superior. When a taxonomy changes the old one is only of historical interest, the new one should be used for identification. Ix-ir ( talk) 05:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
This is more going to be a quick question, but if an older illustration of a character shows a character in better detail and design than a newer one, even if the newer one is a different outfit and appearance, can the older artwork be used without stepping on a policy of some sort?
I'm asking about cases like Balrog (Street Fighter), where it utilizes artwork from Street Fighter IV but ends up extremely difficult to cite and the character's design has not changed much at all since previous installments. On the other end of that spectrum you have this artwork for Tira (Soulcalibur) as opposed to the older artwork for the previous game that represents the character in a better move visible fashion.-- Kung Fu Man ( talk) 17:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (video game) has several chunks phrased in terms of, "The game will have X." When the game comes out, and if it still has X, is it appropriate to retain the citation to the pre-release, future-tense-using source -- or is it imperative to track down a follow-up that uses the present tense to confirm its actual inclusion? I'll work to do this just 'cause, but I'm curious as to whether this is the trend/practice with other articles. Many thanks! -- EEMIV ( talk) 12:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
I've been informed that a large number of VG related screenshots and other images are problematic, mainly because they're not clear about how the images are sourced or they have an incomplete fair use rationale. These days, we're fairly good about being clear where images are from and why we want to use them, as well as having information on where they're from and who the copyright holder is. Back when a lot of these images were uploaded, the criteria weren't as firm and templates to support this were yet to be evolved.
You can find a list of tagged images from this history of recent contributions. The tagging goes back about 2 weeks. I'd appreciate it if some editors familiar with the image sourcing requirements could go through these, updating the rationales, improving the sourcing information and so on. This user has done the right thing by tagging these images as problematic and it's now up to us to meet that challenge and resolve these issues. Yes, it's housekeeping work, but it needs to be done if we want to continue including these images in VG articles. Many thanks, Gazi moff 12:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I probably don't understand this fair use stuff as much as some of the long-time contributors... but can someone explain to me why Image:Street Fighter.png is up for speedy deletion, when it has a proper fair use rationale, and explains the source as the street fighter game? What's missing? Randomran ( talk) 14:50, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Ah, where's the BetaCommandBot when we need him? MuZemike ( talk) 00:06, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Are the columns for first released, exclusive and trophies needed? As of now: the table just looks bloated with all these columns and needs cleaning in my view. RobJ1981 ( talk) 21:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Did anyone here play Codename: Gordon? If so, could someone tell me what it is you're supposed to do in thta Bonus Game you unlock when finishing the game? It's called Crow Chase, but you can't catch, or hit the crows with the crowbar. diego_pmc ( talk) 07:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
also, are reviews like these two [11] [12] reliable? diego_pmc ( talk) 07:01, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
The reason i ask is because I'm currently trying to improve Codename: Gordon (I've found quite a few useful links) and I want to add this info on the Bonus game in the Gameplay section. However I don't know what you're supposed to do in the Bonus Game, the text that (I think) should give you instructions is bugged, and says only "UNDEFINED". diego_pmc ( talk) 08:34, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Could someone please tell me if online stores such as these are considered reliable sources for release dates? I believe the consensus is that they should be avoided because they often use estimates but I can't find it in the policy. Can someone please point me in the right direction? ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 19:40, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
I've been slowly filling in missing info for each game (I'm currently up to 1993, as well as scattered ports/remakes in different years). This list is getting pretty huge, and I was wondering if it would be better to split it into an individual article for each decade. If this is to be done, is there an article of similar scope whose organization/naming scheme I can be copy? SharkD ( talk) 04:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Less than an hour ago 4X was promoted to featured article status. It was damn hard work researching this, but it was satisfying to pull it off. I'm confident that we can promote may other video game genre articles to GA status, but it will take a group effort. I see the GCOTW project as a real opportunity to make this happen. But if that's going to take another little while, I can point to a few articles that I'm ready to tackle with even a couple other eager editors. I think real-time strategy (or even strategy video games in general) would be a great candidate, since I've managed to dig up quite a bit of research on the topic. But if not that, we should focus on a genre that's alive and well so it has a lot of up-to-date research, without being so broad as to be a nightmare. Just thinking out loud, and getting a feel for what people would be interested in working on. Randomran ( talk) 01:19, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Aside from first-person shooter and real-time strategy, there are a few others in decent shape. There's fighting game, turn-based strategy, shoot 'em up, and survival horror that have all reached B-class. But FPS and RTS have the most reliable research lying around on the web, as far as I can tell. Randomran ( talk) 19:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Let's try to get 5 editors on one of these articles. (Is 5 a good number?)
Feel free to put your name down for both, if you feel good enough about both topics. You don't need to be an expert. You just have to know how to write a GA-class Wikipedia article, and know a lot about a few games in either genre. Randomran ( talk) 19:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Check out the further reading section of the real time strategy article. I added these academic sources a while ago, but they are unused. User:Krator ( t c) 23:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
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This question was brought up by me at Talk:Guitar Hero III Mobile, however, I believe that asking the community involved in the video games project could better answer this. So here goes:
Does the publisher's "official title" of a video game take precedence over what a retail store would call the same product? For example, publisher Hands-On Mobile ( handson.com) calls the mobile phone version Guitar Hero III Mobile while Rogers (an online retail store) just calls it Guitar Hero III. This conflicts with the console/computer version published by Activision ( PS2, PS3, Wii, Xbox 360, PC, and Mac) called Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock, which is also known as Guitar Hero III or sometimes Guitar Hero 3 for short (both redirect to the full title). There is a hatnote at the top of Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock which provides a link to the mobile phone game, so I don't see why there should be a problem. Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 01:19, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Ignore retailers. As Jappalang said, go with The game's own cover, gaming sites and the publishers name of it. - X201 ( talk) 08:17, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
What should be done with the review box in the case of Resident Evil 4? Should all four versions have reviews listed in the same box or should just one be chosen for it? Also, the article could still use quite a bit of help at this point if anyone feels like it. TTN ( talk) 16:12, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm thinking of deleted Albion (Fable) per notability, in world, and lack of cites, what do you guys think? Gears of War 2 17:40, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I hate to be a convassar but can we use User:Gears of War/Video Game Cabal as our offcial cabal, I think you guys will like the project aim. Gears of War 2 20:38, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I've rewritten pixologist and encourage you to visit Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pixologist to see if concerns have been addressed. Please note that a name change to pixel artist is almost assured if the article is kept. Banjeboi 21:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
This assortment of articles has been taken to AFD with no consensus, but it still needs much improvement to keep it around, so I think perhaps we could merge them into a Blizzard software article, and merge the fan created software to either the World of Warcraft article or making a Software of World of Warcraft article. Thoughts? Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 20:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay I just made a cabal that was created to focus on one article at a time and then the entire cabal would have helped to get that article to at least GA status(or even FA). So I then requested the cabal to be deleted after a long talk about it and so i then had a conversation with Keeper 76 and xeno about the cabal after the deletion. Afterwords, xeno suggested a GA FA taskforce in WP:VG that would do the same thing my cabal would have done. So now i come before the grand court known as WP:VG to suggest a GA FA taskforce. My taskforce will pick one article at a time to build, move to another and and build that one. This would give WP:VG many more GA and FA. Consider my proposal. Gears of War 2 21:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I thought this was derivative work but I have been told different so I just want to make sure, is this derivative work or not?
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I'm just wondering, but in games that allow user-created content, could that be considered a derivative work? - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I'm bringing it here because I seriously need more eyes on it. People keep adding crap about personal details that surely violate WP:NOT#PLOT and completely disregard WP:WAF, and any attempts to prune it simply result in it coming back, again and again. I'm very tired of this. Can I get some people to watchlist and soemone (like TTN) to sweep through and prune the article? hbdragon88 ( talk) 03:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
For characters that are unlockable stickers and trophies for Brawl, is it really necessary to list it in the character article? I strongly feel it's trivial content and not that notable. See the history of Rouge the Bat for one example. I've been trying to remove it, but others just keep re-adding it back. RobJ1981 ( talk) 01:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
You're acting a bit paranoid. Let's calm done for a few minutes. Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R. 01:33, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Whoa, slow down both of you. Rob, ever consider that maybe Skeletal is trying to make a legitimate point? Skeletal, ever consider that maybe you're pushing on Rob a little hard? Just forget your past conflicts and talk about the issue. Red Phoenix flame of life... protector of all... 01:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
If you mean a list of all characters that are just trophies or stickers, then listing them gives a disproportionate amount of weight to something extremely minor. Readers need to get the general idea behind them, that idea does not need bludgeoning into their skulls with a blunt, indiscriminate list fit for a fansite. Someone another 01:56, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Minor cameos are really scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of what can be said about the character. It doesn't exactly break any rules to include it, but I don't think it's worth trying to fit it into the existing prose: I've yet to see cameos written any way other than "<character> appears in <game> as <item>", which reads like a trivia bullet point and, unless you have a number of cameos, makes for very short paragraphs and/or sections. Nifboy ( talk) 03:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
This is pretty hard-core trivial silliness; it's bad in the Link article where there's actually something to say, and it's horrible everywhere else. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 04:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I believe Pokémon Platinum must be moved to Pocket Monsters Platinum due to the project's naming conventions. Thoughts? Megata Sanshiro ( talk) 10:08, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Right, I hope I can gauge the source-finders amongst you to help me out again with some sourcing. I'm currently rewriting Sam & Max Hit the Road, the old 1993 classic Lucasarts adventure game (and the first video game I ever played. Well, that and Doom. Ah the memories). However, I'm a little stuck for development sources. I've got a little bit of information on the designers, the engine and the music, as well as a brief bit of history of how it ended up as a video game, but beyond that I'm struggling. I figure I've probably got enough there as a bare minimum (once I reference it properly), but I'd really like to get my hands on some more. However, as its been 14 years, such information is hard to come by.
I'd also appreciate some help with reviews: most of them are in print sources, not online. I've got four working online reviews in addition to Allgame on Game Rankings, but only one (Adventure Gamers) I think is a confirmed reliable source. Are the others suitable for usage? If not, anyone got any other reviews I can use? Most of today's sources are too young to cover this. -- Sabre ( talk) 19:25, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm having a dispute over at Lego Batman about whether to include a list of the characters - I feel the list shouldn't be included, due to WP:NOT (wikipedia's not a list of information) and perhaps WP:GAMETRIVIA item 6. Also, none of the other Lego games contains lists, though their characters could be considered equally notable (at least in Star Wars' case). Just wondering what the overall view is, if the guidelines and other articles contain enough precedent enough to not include the list of characters, and if not, why not. Thanks! Fin © ™ 11:22, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
People want to know all the characters that they can play as in the game so why not show all the characters in the article. Ice ( talk) 18:02, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
My point about picking up a game guide (paid or the free ones you can find online) is that among the things that Wikipedia is not is a game guide. Wikipedia is not intended to include every minute detail, like every character that can be unlocked in a game. Wikipedia is here to consolidate notable information about a subject. If the game were to include a completely unforeseen character, such as Seth Green, then that would be considered notable, as most game sites would probably have an story confirming their confusion. However, since the minor characters are most likely expected, it's not notable and shouldn't be arbitrarily added. ~ QuasiAbstract { talk/ contrib} 03:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry everyone for constantly adding the characters back. Ice ( talk) 19:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
To "Dragon Warrior Monsters" - I proposed it on the DQM series page, and no one seemed to object (and one person supported it). Besides, first game should get preference over the series, just like Dragon Warrior has.
Take it easy, Link. It's not necessary to attack other users like that. The Prince ( talk) 00:03, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I have been cleaning the article of Kyo Kusanagi and now I was thinking of nominating it to GA. Do you think its okay? Im a bit worried about the grammar since English is not my first language, so could anybody pay look there? Thanks. Tintor2 ( talk) 01:35, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
A bit of opinion gathering.
Interactive movies are currently listed on Video game genres as a subgenre of adventure games. This seems inappropriate because the only element common to interactive movies is the constant presence of full-motion video. An adventure game is not an adventure game unless it involves strong elements of both plot and puzzles. The term "interactive movie" more appropriately relates to a presentation style to my mind, and shouldn't be treated as a genre any more than 3D games are. So I think the "genre" should go from the page.
In looking at the Interactive movie page, I also noticed an old proposal to merge Interactive movie with Full motion video based game. To me, the two pages seem to describe the same thing. The only difference I can think of is that an "interactive movie" suggests aspirations to emulate film, where "FMV-based game" is a dryer term. There have been a couple of comments supporting the merge since the initial proposal was withdrawn, so I thought I'd renew it.
Comments welcome both here and on the talk page for the merge proposal. Cheers. Playclever ( talk) 21:51, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
I've noticed that the "characters" articles on Wikipedia seem to be titled in two different ways: "characters of x" and "list of x characters". "List of x characters" end up being lists, while "characters of x" articles are just, well, articles. For example, why is list of characters in Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow a list, while characters of Kingdom Hearts not a list? They both appear to be lists. Can someone clarify this for me? Xnux the Echidna 03:35, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I was searching through this page's archives and found some comments regarding a "list of valid sources" for referencing video game related articles. Is there such a list and if so where can I find it? I've made a cursory search of the project and department pages in hoped of locating it but haven't had any luck thus far. S. Luke 02:28, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
We need to form a consensus on whether to remove extraneous release dates on this list, the discussion is here. - A Link to the Past (talk) 01:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Just curious, as Edge issue 5 has allegedly got a review of Sam & Max Hit the Road in it. Someone had added it as a reference before I started working on the article, and due to the lack of contempory reviews of the game online, getting hold of some printed reviews seems to be becoming a necessity. -- Sabre ( talk) 19:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone see any real potential in M.U.G.E.N? Pretty much everything is junk and it really doesn't seem to establish any real notability. TTN ( talk) 17:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
The peer review for Basil W. Duke, an article within the scope of the Military history WikiProject, is now open. The Military history WikiProject is currently partnering with our project to share peer reviews, so all editors are cordially invited to participate, and any input there would be very appreciated! Thanks! Kirill ( prof) 03:08, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
An FLC reviewer has stated that the format of the template does not exemplify "Wikipedia's best work" in the video game titles featured list and he proposes we add more information that can be found in the infoboxes in individual games, what does the project think about it?-- S R X 01:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
This is no longer productive. Unless and until someone can present some evidence that this show hosted on Gametrailers is subject to editorial process, there's nothing more to discuss.
I will cheerfully block anyone who reopens (or opens a new discussion) to comment on other Wikipedia editors. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 01:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I know this isn't a place for general discussion, but this needs to be done. I don't want to be an Angry Video Game Nerd fan anymore. I used to like him, but he's done and said too much stuff that I didn't appreciate (He even made fun of my birthyear 1988). Plus I cannot stand his hordes upon hordes of mindless suck-ups who defend every bad thing he does. Since you people don't like him either, I need you to do me a favor. I need you to officially undeclare me an AVGN fan. That will ease a lot of stress in my mind, and I can finally move on... 24.247.134.174 ( talk) 11:49, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles like the Early Years series and really short, and some like Mario Teaches Typing 2 could be added in the prequel article without it's own article, since it's not that long. So I am thinking, should some of the educational games be merged. I mean, the Early Years series could be fit in one article, just like with the Zelda CD-I games. Magiciandude ( talk) 19:12, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Please see the fracas at Talk:Unreal#Unofficial 227 patch and the follow-on blacklisting request at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#oldunreal.com. This appears to be a dispute between an established editor, Ham Pastrami, and multiple anonymous IPs and single purpose accounts. If you look at the blacklisting request, you'll see stuff about off-Wikipedia canvassing and some name-calling directed at Ham Pastrami.
We should get a consensus of established Wikipedia editors on the suitability of this link before deciding what to do with the blacklisting request. Please make comments at Talk:Unreal#Unofficial 227 patch. Thanks, -- A. B. ( talk • contribs) 02:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Has anyone noticed the plethora of small Beatmania articles we have? Take a look at Beatmania IIDX (video game), Beatmania IIDX 2nd Style, Beatmania IIDX 3rd Style, all the way up to Beatmania IIDX 10th Style. Is there actually enough information to make full articles out of these, or are they going to stay stubs forever? Pagra shtak 19:21, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
I'll call your Beatmania games and raise you Dance Dance Revolution. To be fair to them there are some good ones in there but there are some that are nothing but a glorified track-list and some that just restate the same as five other articles - X201 ( talk) 08:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Dear WikiProject Video games participants... WikiProject Media franchises needs some help from other projects which are similar. Media franchises' scope deals primarily with the coordination of articles within the hundreds if not thousands of media franchises which exist. Sometimes a franchise might just need color coordination of the various templates used; it could mean creating an article for the franchise as a jump off point for the children of it; or the creation of a new templating system for media franchise articles. The project primarily focuses on multimedia franchises. It would be great if some of this project's participants would come over and help the project get back on solid footing. Also, if you know of similar projects which have not received this, let Lady Aleena ( talk · contribs) know. Please come and take a look at the project and see if you wish to lend a hand. You can sign up here if you wish. Thank you. LA @ 21:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Just curious, was Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Destroy All Humans! discussed on this page before being created? Usually we need to establish some consensus here before setting up a new task force. JACO PLANE • 2008-08-5 20:33 20:33, 05 August 2008 (UTC)
I have a question regarding commercials and other TV ads. On occasion they're vital to cite for promotion purposes or other subjects related to a subject. But how do you go about doing it in cases where the best source is a Youtube recording or similar, as AFAIK there isn't an archive of some sort that keeps track of commercials and can be cited...is there?-- Kung Fu Man ( talk) 14:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
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Dear WikiProject Video games participants... WikiProject Media franchises is currently discussing a naming convention for franchise articles. Since this may affect one or more articles in your project, we would like to get the opinions of all related projects before implimenting any sweeping changes. Please come and help us decide. Thanks! LA ( T) @ 22:10, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm new here, So do tell me if I'm posting in the wrong place or whatever, but I've come to point out a mistake. In the Fable II Pub Games article, it states; "Any money earned from these games will be turned into experience points in Fable II, at a rate of one gold per XP for the linked character; however, part of the risk is that debt incurred has negative consequences on the character.[4][5] Each tournament allows the player to win one of 15 unique items that instantly becomes available to a chosen character in Fable II.[5]"
I'm following the Fable 2 development reasonably closely, and have the Pub Games myself, and the gold won in the games isn't converted to XP for the character, it's just given to the linked player in cold, hard cash. Nothing XP related is handled by the Pub Games.
The pub games are a way to give some players a head-start with filling their wallets, as you can no longer earn gold from completing any of the main quests, only through collecting fallen enemies spoils, doing 'jobs', or gambling.
-- KoKroach ( talk) 01:55, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
EDIT: Just noticed this too, under the Fortunes Tower rules; "The player may opt once per game to overturn the top card, the "Gate" card, to replace a losing card."
The Gate card is overturned automatically in the event of a misfortune.
Small point, but hey, while I'm posting.
(I'd change it myself, that one probably goes under 'minor edit', but I know what some of the mods can be like for resetting any changes, so I though I'd tell you first.)
-- KoKroach ( talk) 02:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Several VG FAs are languishing at WP:FAC: The World Ends with You and 4X. I encourage experienced editors to contribute (and maybe to non-VG articles too, but we should take care of our own first :P) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk) 03:10, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way to left-align the VG Reviews box? On Bionic Commando Rearmed, there are three right-aligned boxes in a fairly short page and the layout is quite messy on high resolution monitors. It's only minor but if anyone can think of a way to improve the layout it would be good. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 22:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Er, I said a while ago that I would revive the WP:GCOTW. Obviously I haven't got round to getting that done yet. Reading over the discussion again, I did not exactly get the feeling that there was a great deal of enthusiasm for a weekly/bi-weekly collaboration, so I thought I would raise the issue again. This project will only work if there are at least a few contributors committed to working on it regularly. The old GCOTW died out because not enough people were participating (well, also because I stopped updating the nomination process, Thunderbrand was a lot more consistant than I was). So, what do we do? JACO PLANE • 2008-08-14 11:46
Short time limts go against the grain of this being a volunteer hobby rather than a career, if editors lose interest or hit the wall with one particlar article we can always agree on the talk page to pick up the next article. You could always put essential articles in a 'collaboration of the month' slot so that they progressively improve, as well as a separate section where a start or stub class article is tethered for us to boost to GA or as close as it will go (no time limit). That way there's a collaborative project to chip away at as and when, as well as an ongoing improvement drive for the precious, er, high importance articles. Someone another 18:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
An anon editor is insisting on this change [2] to the real-time strategy article, giving Starcraft its own sub-section (the only game to receive such a treatment). Starcraft was already mentioned as a highlight previously, and since the article is about the genre as a whole, singling out this game for a separate discussion seems like undue weight and POV. Of course Starcraft is a big title, but this change seems more like exposition for the game than information about the genre. We've already gone back and forth several times with reverts, and the anon has yet to explain his reasoning. (After the first revert, he also saw fit to vandalize my user page. [3]) I'd appreciate if other editors could assist in reaching a decision or compromise. Ham Pastrami ( talk) 02:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
The RTS article needs to be updated atleast to Good article. -- SkyWalker ( talk) 05:46, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
I have not yet approached these specific articles on this, but in light of what I'm seeing for Stilwater (the Saints row location, which I have suggested for AFD to be merged to Saints Row) I think we need to cut these articles down (specifically Liberty City, Vice City and San Andreas (Grand Theft Auto)) into a single "List of locations in the Grand Theft Auto series". Basically, the way these articles are written make the work fall between a fictional travel guide and a game guide. I have not seen anything about how the cities were designed, created, or so forth, and even if there are interviews to say "yes, Liberty City is supposed to be NYC", that's not enough to justify a full length article on that point describing what fictional restaurant chains there are in it. Is this going to be barking up the wrong tree ? -- MASEM 04:12, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
See: List of Virtual Console games (Australia) and List of Virtual Console games (Europe) to see the column. Is this column needed? Just because they had issues with converting it to a PAL version doesn't justify it needs to be on those lists. I'm not sure if this would fall under game guide content or not? I'm sure some people find it "useful" when looking for games to get, however I don't see it suitable for Wikipedia. If the issues are major (and actually notable): list them on the game article instead. This is somewhat similar to lists of glitch lists I see on game articles sometimes: it's useful to some people, but it simply isn't important content (unless it's a major glitch that actually has reliable sources and/or media coverage) for this site. What does everyone else think? RobJ1981 ( talk) 07:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I know I've asked for help before but I need really critical eyes here for The World Ends with You's FAC. I've had about 4 different experienced editors ce and it's still getting comments that its hard to follow. Particularly if you have not played this game, I encourage you to go there and, even if not CE'ing, give the article (talk or to me) feedback as to what you find confusing. A word of warning: 90% of the problem is that this is a "game within a game" that uses terms that we'd normally used to describe a live player interacting with a game, to describe how the characters interact with the game-within-a-game. I need to make sure any such points are ID'd so that the text can be corrected around them. -- MASEM 13:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
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User:A Link to the Past/List of songs in Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Not going to be proposing anything at the moment, just want to see if anyone'd be interested in filling the Development and Reception sections. - A Link to the Past (talk) 20:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Once again JAF is claiming ownership. See Talk:Spore_(2008_video_game)#Do_NOT_remove_sourced_info as the recent example. He has a serious attitude problem anytime something gets removed from the article, and I'm sick of dealing with it. RobJ1981 ( talk) 17:02, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
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I recently prod'd Madden NFL 2010 per WP:CRYSTAL and the fact it's based around a single "source" that admits it hasn't been officially confirmed. The prod was contested, I'm just wondering what the next step is - is it AfD? Thanks! Fin © ™ 00:03, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Old topic here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games/Archive_31#id_tech_.28x.29_names_or_old_names.3F
In that discussion I see no clear consensus yet a user is changing the Q2 and Q3 pages to 'Quake 3 Engine' etc as if this is policy. I disagree with this change, there is no useful information inherent in 'Quake 3 Engine', it's redundant, using 'id Tech 3' places it as a part of a series of engines, is less confusing when discussing other games using the engines and matches future games from id. The alternative of retaining old names in addition to using the newer names for new games with id engines makes no sense, there is no inherent value nor nostalgia in the old names and in information terms the new ones are superior. When a taxonomy changes the old one is only of historical interest, the new one should be used for identification. Ix-ir ( talk) 05:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
This is more going to be a quick question, but if an older illustration of a character shows a character in better detail and design than a newer one, even if the newer one is a different outfit and appearance, can the older artwork be used without stepping on a policy of some sort?
I'm asking about cases like Balrog (Street Fighter), where it utilizes artwork from Street Fighter IV but ends up extremely difficult to cite and the character's design has not changed much at all since previous installments. On the other end of that spectrum you have this artwork for Tira (Soulcalibur) as opposed to the older artwork for the previous game that represents the character in a better move visible fashion.-- Kung Fu Man ( talk) 17:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (video game) has several chunks phrased in terms of, "The game will have X." When the game comes out, and if it still has X, is it appropriate to retain the citation to the pre-release, future-tense-using source -- or is it imperative to track down a follow-up that uses the present tense to confirm its actual inclusion? I'll work to do this just 'cause, but I'm curious as to whether this is the trend/practice with other articles. Many thanks! -- EEMIV ( talk) 12:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
I've been informed that a large number of VG related screenshots and other images are problematic, mainly because they're not clear about how the images are sourced or they have an incomplete fair use rationale. These days, we're fairly good about being clear where images are from and why we want to use them, as well as having information on where they're from and who the copyright holder is. Back when a lot of these images were uploaded, the criteria weren't as firm and templates to support this were yet to be evolved.
You can find a list of tagged images from this history of recent contributions. The tagging goes back about 2 weeks. I'd appreciate it if some editors familiar with the image sourcing requirements could go through these, updating the rationales, improving the sourcing information and so on. This user has done the right thing by tagging these images as problematic and it's now up to us to meet that challenge and resolve these issues. Yes, it's housekeeping work, but it needs to be done if we want to continue including these images in VG articles. Many thanks, Gazi moff 12:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I probably don't understand this fair use stuff as much as some of the long-time contributors... but can someone explain to me why Image:Street Fighter.png is up for speedy deletion, when it has a proper fair use rationale, and explains the source as the street fighter game? What's missing? Randomran ( talk) 14:50, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Ah, where's the BetaCommandBot when we need him? MuZemike ( talk) 00:06, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Are the columns for first released, exclusive and trophies needed? As of now: the table just looks bloated with all these columns and needs cleaning in my view. RobJ1981 ( talk) 21:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Did anyone here play Codename: Gordon? If so, could someone tell me what it is you're supposed to do in thta Bonus Game you unlock when finishing the game? It's called Crow Chase, but you can't catch, or hit the crows with the crowbar. diego_pmc ( talk) 07:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
also, are reviews like these two [11] [12] reliable? diego_pmc ( talk) 07:01, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
The reason i ask is because I'm currently trying to improve Codename: Gordon (I've found quite a few useful links) and I want to add this info on the Bonus game in the Gameplay section. However I don't know what you're supposed to do in the Bonus Game, the text that (I think) should give you instructions is bugged, and says only "UNDEFINED". diego_pmc ( talk) 08:34, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Could someone please tell me if online stores such as these are considered reliable sources for release dates? I believe the consensus is that they should be avoided because they often use estimates but I can't find it in the policy. Can someone please point me in the right direction? ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 19:40, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
I've been slowly filling in missing info for each game (I'm currently up to 1993, as well as scattered ports/remakes in different years). This list is getting pretty huge, and I was wondering if it would be better to split it into an individual article for each decade. If this is to be done, is there an article of similar scope whose organization/naming scheme I can be copy? SharkD ( talk) 04:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Less than an hour ago 4X was promoted to featured article status. It was damn hard work researching this, but it was satisfying to pull it off. I'm confident that we can promote may other video game genre articles to GA status, but it will take a group effort. I see the GCOTW project as a real opportunity to make this happen. But if that's going to take another little while, I can point to a few articles that I'm ready to tackle with even a couple other eager editors. I think real-time strategy (or even strategy video games in general) would be a great candidate, since I've managed to dig up quite a bit of research on the topic. But if not that, we should focus on a genre that's alive and well so it has a lot of up-to-date research, without being so broad as to be a nightmare. Just thinking out loud, and getting a feel for what people would be interested in working on. Randomran ( talk) 01:19, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Aside from first-person shooter and real-time strategy, there are a few others in decent shape. There's fighting game, turn-based strategy, shoot 'em up, and survival horror that have all reached B-class. But FPS and RTS have the most reliable research lying around on the web, as far as I can tell. Randomran ( talk) 19:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Let's try to get 5 editors on one of these articles. (Is 5 a good number?)
Feel free to put your name down for both, if you feel good enough about both topics. You don't need to be an expert. You just have to know how to write a GA-class Wikipedia article, and know a lot about a few games in either genre. Randomran ( talk) 19:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Check out the further reading section of the real time strategy article. I added these academic sources a while ago, but they are unused. User:Krator ( t c) 23:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)