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Just thought I'd let the project know - {{ Hurricane disambig}} is nominated for deletion (I did it). Considering that this is a deprecated template that's not transcluded anywhere, I don't expect that this will be controversial, but I still should let you all know. SchuminWeb ( Talk) 02:02, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Since Plasticup has suddenly stopped editing, no one has been around to finish the review comments for Tropical Storm Gamma. I would rather not fail this article and let it sit around again so if someone would be kind enough to take over for Plasticup and finish up the article, I would be happy to keep the GAN going. Since I know this wont be replied to immediately, I'm keeping the article up at GAN for a week to allow someone to take over and when someone does, I'll give them another week to complete it. Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 19:48, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I have come with a concern that's been bothering me. Lately, (over the last year and a half), different users on IRC and in individual season articles for jargon term "calling" an article. I have a feeling that calling an article for writing is inciting too much competition. I also believe we're starting to create articles for unnotable storms during its lifetime. Although people believe models, they aren't always correct or reliable, and should not be used in determining an article's creation. This incites that the storm may not end up doing anything, and therefore the article serves on a worthless storm. I would prefer that consensus be decided and that the storm had some kind of precursor effect for a storm is planned to affect land or make a record. Mitch/ HC32 21:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
[1] I am fixing infoboxes for the old SWIO seasons in this sandbox, and I found a "little" problem, I have a storm, Heather of 1992 that is not in the JTWC ATCR or International Best Track. The only place that I can find it in is the MFR best track for the storm: [2] that places it as a 90 knot Intense Tropical Cyclone with 930 mbar. That seems dubious because the JTWC did not monitor it at all. Any thoughts?
-- An ha mi rak 23:31, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Needs eyes. Dabomb87 ( talk) 20:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Since it holds the record for precipitations, shouldn't that storm be on the requested articles page? I don't claim to know much about the subject but it seems odd to leave this one out. 173.176.2.65 ( talk) 18:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Please have a look at the merging proposal at commons:Category:Tropical cyclone tracks. Though it seems not appropriate the actual cat structure there needs some refurbishing. ;-) -- Matthiasb ( talk) 20:18, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I am translating some articles about Tropical cyclones and I've a question. When you use the term "billion" in yours articles, that meaning use:
It's very important because in a lot of languages use 1012 to refer billion.-- KRLS ( talk) 00:25, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Inspired by the
USRD county challenge, I propose a challenge of our own:
To write or expand a stub/start article to GA status from each of the 8 (eight) basins, all of which must be mid-importance or higher
Season articles are allowed, and to avoid bias, the GA reviews cannot be done from anyone else in the competition. Any articles to be expanded must be start or stub class at of the start of the challenge. Interested? Then sign up! ♬♩
Hurricanehink (
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15:22, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Participants
Hurricanehink
Cyclonebiskit
Jason Rees
HurricaneSpin
Hurricane Angel Saki
Titoxd
Yellow Evan
Hi everyone! I'd like to do a report on this WikiProject for an upcoming edition of the Wikipedia Signpost. Are there any members who are familiar with how the WikiProject works and its history and who would be willing to answer a few questions? Thanks! Kirill [talk] [pf] 13:04, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
When the severe weather article structure recently became unwieldy, a couple of us decided to tackle the thunderstorm article, which is of some interest to this project. It was delisted as a GA in October 2006 and looks ready to regain GA status. Thegreatdr ( talk) 19:18, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
I am curious of about joining this project about tropical cyclones, and as a Filipino living in a typhoon zone, I'd like to contribute about typhoons in our basin. Typhoon activity is so high there, that the strongest storm Typhoon Tip formed in the basin and its rainbands affected the Philippines in 1979. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sir Jazer 13 ( talk • contribs) 10:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
I removed the 2009 AHS section in the ACE table, and Prosfilaes ( talk · contribs) reinserted it. I want to see how most of WPTC members opinions at should we put current seasons in the ACE table?. Darren 23 My Contributions 01:35, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I think Juliancolotn was talking about 2009 AHS, as the TCR's or the BT data have not come out. No major editors (I mean respected autoconfirmed editors) have updated it. Darren 23 My Contributions 01:35, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
On the 2009 WPac seasonal article. A user, Typhoon2009 showed TCNA coding for JMA Tropical Depressions that gave clear numberings of the depressions. However, other users want to use the older method. I just want to see what the consensus is for this. -- Anh ami rak 01:49, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Even if you incorporates all the depressions, it doesn't mean that your numbers are valid. Anything not numbered by JMA should be kept unnumbered. If there is a depression, say, named by PAGASA but not numbered by JMA, then just state PAGASA's name without a number. If there is no official designation, simply not to use any name or number. eg. CWB tropical depression. Typhoon2009 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:50, 12 September 2009 (UTC).
Let's make another comparison, suppose we have TD 1 in an Atlantic season. Then, in post-season analysis, NHC recognize a TC before TD 1. Will you renumber TD 1 to TD 2? Of course not, even if it's not the first TD in the season. Even if TD x is in fact the y-th TD from your point of view, you are not allowed to call it TD y in an encyclopedia, as long as the official designation is TD x. Typhoon2009 ( talk) 05:56, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Acctully the WWJP25s are on my side not yours and as such it is one depression. Jason Rees ( talk) 14:07, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
The lowest resolution of the links is here. The page which has all the links is here. Thegreatdr ( talk) 12:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
The project needs to be aware that their are two categories for deleation going on at the minute. Both involve the naming of the SWIO basin as a whole.
Jason Rees ( talk) 16:13, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Respectfully suggest that the experts here focus a bit on that article. It appears likely that there were hundreds of deaths in the Phillipines (73 confirmed as of now), and that this is a megadisaster whose scope will become clear over the next week. (The satellite convection maps showed all of Luzon black for hours. Since that's mountainous terrain, news will be slow to get out and some of the worst flooding may be yet to come.) Looie496 ( talk) 17:00, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Theirs a lot of eyes on the PTS at the minute so im sure it will be taken care off. Jason Rees ( talk) 17:15, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Working on DEP, I came across 2009 International Series hurricane season, which looks to be a listing of names already discussed in articles such as 2009 Pacific hurricane season and 2009 Atlantic hurricane season. I really don't know enough about hurricanes (don't live in an area where we ever have them -- we whine about 30 mph winds here) to know if there's a good redirect target, if this title just needs to be fleshed out, or if it needs deletion. Hopefully someone here can take a look a sort it out. Thanks!-- Fabrictramp | talk to me 21:08, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
I just downloaded a program that access archived NEXRAD data back to 1993 (I think), so I'm now able to create animations such as File:Hurricane Isabel NEXRAD radar animation.gif. Feel free to let me know if you have any candidates for new animations in mind. – Juliancolton | Talk 01:03, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
If we use JMA for the Season Effects tables in Pacific typhoon season articles, shouldn't we use it for the PTS timeline graphics too? Should we maintain consistency? Darren 23 Edits| Mail 13:49, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
This is an idea that I've seen WP:MILHIST use – what if WPTC had its own coordinators (consisting of one lead coordinator and five co-coordinators)? Just a thought. -- Dylan 620 ( contribs, logs, review) 01:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
As of the past few months, GANs have been sitting longer and longer without review within the project, apparently due to the slow dropout of people from the met and TC projects as a whole. Julian and I were discussing this on his talk page, and we think we found a palatable way of resolving this problem. We should institute a policy of not submitting more GAN candidates than people are willing to review. This would mean, for instance, if you submit 4 articles for GAN, you should be willing (or able) to review 4 articles up for GAN in the meantime, which would expedite the process of review as well. This way we can avoid coming up with an arbitrary number to limit GAN requests, and resolve our backlog at the same time. Articles could still be improved enough for GAN in the meantime...but it would delay their GA nominations until the queue was flushed out. The assumption made here is that people who improve articles to GA status will be able to review articles for GA as well. What does the project think? Thegreatdr ( talk) 14:33, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
The WMO Website has had a bit of a revamp, and will now have on there links to all of the offical BTS since 2004. Also worth noting is that the RSMCs and TCWCs are having a meeting next month, which means we will have a lot of BT coming out and hints to why thing have occured (eg: Why TCWC Wellington upgraded CY Gene to a cat 3 after it left the tropics). Jason Rees ( talk) 14:16, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey, as this storm has hit category 5, it needs to be added to the topic. You have 3 months from the date of the article's creation, or until 18 January, to add the article to the topic with a fully completed PR, and 3 months from the date of dissipation (which I realise will only be a couple of days later :P) to have the article at GA. Thanks - rst20xx ( talk) 21:19, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Euston - We have a major problem - the JTWC have finally implemented their portal thingy which they have been threatening to do all year. Thus all of the ATCRS and links to the besttracks will have gone dead. However they are still on the JTWCs website and are located here. Jason Rees ( talk) 00:31, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Jason Rees and I have been discussing a proposal in the IRC. Its about reviewing the project every December and July where most editors are active and !voting about things which need to be changed such as project processes and style of articles, etc. To me, long and dramatic discussion might be avoided by doing biannually.Also, in addition, 2 users will be elected to oversee this process and make special polls when urgent change is needed. Darren 23 Edits| Mail 23:16, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
This is a heads-up that there is a typhoon named Mirinae (local name Santi) currently headed toward the Phillipines and set to smack right into the middle of Luzon in a day or so. It looks like it has the potential to create a rainfall disaster on the scale of Ketsana if not worse, so it might be worth setting up the basic structure of an article pretty soon. (Google News shows a bunch of stories about ongoing disaster preparations.) Looie496 ( talk) 19:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
The loss of Juliancolton from wikipedia concerns me, though it doesn't surprise me. Wikipedia can become a frustrating place over the years, project matters aside, which is why some of us have been lessening our work load on here. I moved him to inactive, for now. I guess the big question becomes, "Can this project survive?" In order for it to survive, we need to be inclusive concerning new editors and review more GAN/FAC articles to prevent backlogs from forming on the GAN/FAC pages. I've been more active in updating a couple of the many templates used to simply track status within the project, like the Noticeboard. This past month, the GAN backlog has been reducing, because Cyclonebiskit and myself have been reviewing more articles. Jason has also helped out earlier in the year. But we need more than 3 people available to review GANs for the project. I'm concerned that the project seems to be dying off slowly as more established editors leave, the way the meteorology project did a few years ago. If that happens, we'll be lucky to get GAN candidates reviewed within 3 months, which will further erode significant editing/improvements within the project. Thegreatdr ( talk) 17:38, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
I personally find the information included within the Tropical Storm Grace (2009) article quite interesting, even if it is potentially awkward/embarassing to NHC. It might be worth adding similar information into other tropical cyclone-related articles. Thegreatdr ( talk) 00:56, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
As part of the wind/pressure series of articles I've been in the process of upgrading in 2009, both Air mass and trade wind are currently up for GAN. Thegreatdr ( talk) 20:01, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
– Juliancolton | Talk 00:06, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Currently:
– Juliancolton | Talk 01:55, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
I strongly feel that all the Cyclones outside the NHC AOR should be based on the RSMC Category not the JTWC Category, since the JTWC is tottally unoffical even though they named the systems in WPAC from 1945-2000. As i didnt think this was going to be controversial so i went ahead and changed most articles to reflect the RSMC intensity. However both Cyclonebiskit and JC hate it as apparently most people who read en-wiki will only know the SSHS which in my mind is bullshit as if you look most people do take their information from their NMHSS which in turn either do their own forecasting or take their information from a RSMC or TCWC.
Also under the old system pages were being overcategorised - taking a Cat 5 SPAC Cyclone as an example. It used to go into Cat 3 Cyclones and SPAC cyclones. Where as under the new system they just go into Cat5 SPAC cyclones and Cat 5 SPAC Cyclones goes into SPAC Cyclones which saves us having an over categorisation. Jason Rees ( talk) 21:18, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Since this is one of the bigger projects, and that quite several Wikipedia-Books are hurricanes related, could this project adopt the book-class? This would really help WikiProject Wikipedia-Books, as the WP:TC people can oversee books much better than we could as far as merging, deletion, content, and such are concerned. Eventually there probably will be a "Books for discussion" process, so that would be incorporated in the Article Alerts. I'm placing this here rather than on the template page since several taskforces would be concerned.
There's an article in this week Signpost if you aren't familiar with Wikipedia-Books and classes in general. Thanks. Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 20:31, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Hurricane Floyd for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. – Juliancolton | Talk 02:29, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Category:Tropical cyclone tracks is in a complete mess at the moment, which makes maintenance (on Commons) and actual usage of the files harder as a result. I've got a couple specific concerns I'd like to try and address - obviously want WPTC's input.
The last two are fairly straightforward to fix. For example, by-basin subcategories are probably sufficient for now. The real problem is the naming. I'd like a consistent layout for both named and unnamed storms, with the storm name/number occurring in the same place in the file name. Its also Atlantic-centric at present as "Tropical Storm 1 track.png" will always be an Atlantic storm.
My suggestion would be something like "<year> <basin> tropical cyclone <name/number> track.png", possibly altering "tropical cyclone" to the appropriate specific type. For the two examples, I give the new names would something like 2001 Southern hemisphere (or Australian maybe?) tropical storm 1 track.png and 2005 Atlantic Hurricane Katrina track.png. The main advantage of this layout (with year and basin first) is that it allows identification of missing files more readily than having the year at the end. There's also a complication with the unofficially named storms (such as File:1947 Fort Lauderdale hurricane track.png), I'd suggest moving it to the storm number (in this case 6) and leaving the description to provide the name.
There are two complications to any mass-rename. First is the technical aspect of actually moving the files (requires a Commons admin such as myself). The other is its no use renaming the files if the tracks program churns out files with a different syntax, storms.pl would need updating. I want to make some changes to the file names as I'm pretty sure the current content has both redundant and duplicate files - due to re-analysis and inconsistent naming respectively. It would also make a potential future mass upload easier. Comments?-- Nilf anion ( talk) 00:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Should this be renamed WP:Books/1941 Atlantic hurricane season? It's the only one named differently than "YYYY Atlantic/Pacific hurricane season", so I'm wondering if it's meant to be different, or just incomplete. Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 04:43, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
In other news, the number of FA's and GA's under the WikiProject's belt finally exceeds the number of Start-Class articles we have. [1] Titoxd( ?!? - cool stuff) 18:42, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
The NHC have just confirmed that they are going to add on 12 hours to the lead time of hurricane watches/warnings. This follows the example set by NWS GUAM and the CPHC which increased last year. http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2010/20100105_nhc.html Jason Rees ( talk) 20:34, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Since the departure of a few crucial project members, I've noticed that the collective quality of our articles has somewhat declined over recent months. Many new articles, regardless of their actual quality, are simply assessed as C-Class and left to stagnate. While I used to be against merging or redirecting stubs, I think we need to go through Category:Stub-Class Tropical cyclone storm articles, Category:Start-Class Tropical cyclone storm articles, and Category:C-Class Tropical cyclone storm articles to decide which articles should be kept, and which would be better off as part of a broader article. For example, Tropical Storm Edouard (1990) is rather short, and, no disrespect intended to the original author, it could be condensed and merged the 1990 season page; we then have one less article requiring cleanup to deal with. – Juliancolton | Talk 18:30, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
i guess this is the right place for this. i'm lookin at a featured (or good) topic for offseason atlantic hurricanes, but noone can help me. its based off List of off-season Atlantic hurricanes, and theres articles for every named storm in that list. the featured topic crit says "All articles in the topic are linked together, preferably using a template, and share a common category or super-category." does that count using that article? the category (Category:Off-season Atlantic tropical cyclones) includes alot more articles than what are in the list article. can anyone help me please?! -- Viennaiswaiting ( talk) 17:11, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Someone needs to address this, either by delisting its GA or taking over where Hurricanehink left off in April. Which does the project prefer? Thegreatdr ( talk) 17:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
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I was flicking through one of the reports (page5) of the WMO/ESCAP typhoon committee earlier (which meets during next week). I noticed that Japan uses the typhoon committee scale (ie TD TS STS TY) and then its own scale goes on to use "Very Strong TY" and "Violent TY". So i was wondering could we use these in the WPAC to solve various problems like the timelines? Jason Rees ( talk) 17:12, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Can someone give me a key to the codes and what they mean? I figured out IDQP's are cyclone advices, and ABPW10's are summaries of what is going on in western and south pacific. Syntheticalconnections ( talk) 02:39, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
At the moment I am correcting and trying to improve many of the stubs on Haiti geopgraphical features created in the wake of the Haitiy earthquake in the German Wikipedia so also the article on Les Cayes. So I came on this topic. I wonder, if it was that storm which destroyed most of that town on August 12, 1831. Maybe you could improve 1831 Atlantic hurricane season#Great Barbados Hurricane using some of the informations provided in that link (German) claiming that whole street were destroyed by an three hours lasting Orkan (note that the the word Orkan in the German language denotes any storm of BF 11, the word Hurrikan as a translation for hurricane is rather new, maybe since the 1960s, while the expression Hurricane was formerly actually used for a mainly forrested area which was destroyed by was nowadays is called a tornado; the expression was introduced AFAIK by Friedrich Gerstäcker and Balduin Möllhausen which both extensively travelled in the US in the mid of 19th century).. the results were described as that most roofs were torn down, many houses destroyed an alsmost 2000 people have died. -- Matthiasb ( talk) 22:41, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
I can't believe this is coming up again, but the largest Atlantic hurricane template is seeing a lot of editing/reverting activity concerning Ike's size, which is just outside the top 10 when using gale wind diameter. NCDC made a statement on their web page which is causing the confusion. We need to stay vigilant on this, since the already existing references support a diameter closer to 400 miles, not 900. I've e-mailed NCDC, and sent a copy of the e-mail to NHC, concerning this issue. Thegreatdr ( talk) 21:03, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
NCDC sent me an e-mail mentioning they'd be taking down all references to Ike's size within their web pages over the coming days. Thegreatdr ( talk) 01:48, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure who handles the track maps, but I had a little query for an article I'm working on. The track appears to end just off the coat, which is how it appears in Unisys [8] as well, but the TCR [9] has it moving inland. Is there any way to add that last data point to the track, so the map has it going inland? Thx --- Viennaiswaiting ( talk) 02:21, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Should the NHC ever put the naming lists up again for six years in the future in early January like they have done this season. It doesnt mean that theres NOT GONNA BE ANY RETIREMENTS OF NAMES AT THE WMO Meeting. I say this as in 2004 the NHC placed up the lists for 2009 and included Fabian and Isabel, which were later retired by the WMO. [10] Jason Rees ( talk) 19:11, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Just a warning i have just updated the Inflation template so values in the infobox will be out of whack with those in articles unless Template:Inflation is used. Jason Rees ( talk) 04:32, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
I am curious of about joining this project about tropical cyclones, and as a Filipino living in a typhoon zone, I'd like to contribute about typhoons in our basin. Typhoon activity is so high there, that the strongest storm Typhoon Tip formed in the basin and its rainbands affected the Philippines in 1979. -- Sir Jazer 13 ( talk) 10:32, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
After some prodding through a talk page comment, the Allen article has been substantially improved through reformatting of references and the addition of a preparations section. Once five fact tags can be replaced with refs, and the lead expanded to some degree, it can be GANed. As a project, we really need to improve articles for storms such as Allen to GA class due to their high importance to the TC project. Thegreatdr ( talk) 23:27, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
I remind reviewers and editors of tropical cyclone articles that there are numerous errors relating to the Longshore reference. I have volunteered to help in its editing, and I'm up to 65 individual errors within the first 230 pages of the book after an initial skimming (though to be fair about one-third are metric/imperial unit conversion errors). And these are the ones that were obvious to me. A more thorough search/fact check would likely find more errors. Thegreatdr ( talk) 15:54, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Is he director of the NHC or the TPC or both? The article is confusing/contradicting in this point. -- Matthiasb ( talk) 16:16, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I was wondering if we could color the black and white NRL images to make them similar to the images found on the MODIS rapid response system web page. I've made a comparison image. Please leave comment on ways to improve the image, or if you disagree with the change. Supportstorm ( talk) 03:20, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
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We now have all NHEM BT for 2009 bar the IMD who are yet to report. All season articles have been updated with the BT but several of the Storm articles havent. If anyone can provide any assistance please do so. Thanks Jason Rees ( talk) 19:40, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Jeff Masters is currently reporting that there is a South Atlantic Tropical Disturbance of the cost of brazil. Eyes are requested to be kept on South Atlantic Tropical Cyclone as this system can not go in to the article quite yet. Jason Rees ( talk) 01:05, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
After going through a long stretch of having less than 10 articles on GAR at any one time for the met project, we blossomed into the teens within the past couple weeks (with 10 part of this project), with minimal reviews being carried out over that time. I've reviewed 3 articles since my last article on GAR was reviewed in mid-February, so I'm doing my part here, but I can't do this all by myself. We need some experienced editors familiar with reviewing GAs to clear out some of the queue before any more GAR requests are added to the list. Hurricane Fifi is in need of a non-regular reviewer since Julian, myself, and Cyclonebiskit aren't able to review it since we've previously contributed a bit to the article. Any help would be appreciated. Thegreatdr ( talk) 14:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Ill take a look over these ones over the next few days:
I have, admittedly arbitrarily, reassessed this article as A-Class; an explanation can be found at the article's discussion page. Since A-Class is quite underused, I'm wondering if this should be our standing for promoting new articles. Thoughts? – Juliancolton | Talk 04:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Ummm why doesn't this cyclone (arguably one of the most powerful ever) lack an article? Shouldn't being a powerful cyclone already be a basis for notability? 121.96.131.167 ( talk) 02:45, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
When I have translated Hurricane Easy (1951) to catalan wikipedia, I have seen a mistake. It say: "On September 15, it attained Category 3 status with 115 mph (185 km/h) sustained winds, and it intensified to its maximum intensity of 160 mph (260 km/h) on September 7. " when hurricane Easy dissipated September 13. I think that, the writer can write "On Septembre 5", but I kwow us that solve it.-- KRLS ( talk) 12:49, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
When I translated Tropical Storm Marco (2008), I found a mistake too, but anyone say nothing ( Talk:Tropical Storm Marco (2008)).-- KRLS ( talk) 11:00, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
That section of the town's article consists pretty much of 'canes affecting the town but they're generally unsourced. I will try to add some sources I find but if one would have some sources in mind please add them. Thx. -- Matthiasb ( talk) 06:44, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
During my continued research on Pacific typhoons in Japan between 2000-2009, I have discovered that Typhoon Chataan in 2002 caused a record shattering 2.7 trillion yen in damage ($29.8 billion US dollars). This amount is higher than any storm in the basin and even higher than the total damage for entire seasons. Continued research may find more damaging storms over the coming days; however, this extreme amount (determined by the Japanese disaster agencies) is the highest of any storm outside the Atlantic basin. It also approaches the damage scale of Hurricane Ike in 2008, ranking it as one of the costliest tropical cyclones ever. Any editors who have time to contribute to this article please do. As a personal and project goal, I would like to get Typhoon Chataan (or Chata'an) to featured status ASAP. For quick acess to Japanese damage reports, this link is to the disaster page for the typhoon on Digital Typhoon. To view the actual reports in an understandable way, use Google Translate and copy the URL to translate an entire report. Hopefully we can get this rolling immediately and get this stub to FA. Thanks, Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 14:03, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
We haven't had much luck in working together on individual storm articles, I'm sorry to say, despite some attempts over the years. The tropical cyclone coordination to improve the article to FA was likely our finest hour as a project. While the Hurricane Camille coordination last year bore some fruit, it still needs work to attempt GA passage, mainly referencing issues. Other "important" articles (always in the eye of the beholder), such as Hurricane Ike, also need a bit of work. People correctly point out that starting a new article from scratch and improving it yourself is the easiest road to GA, but this doesn't fit wikipedia MoS policy for articles already in existence. It might be best to ask a few people individually if they're willing to help, rather than a general project plea for help. It might work out better. Let us know how the efforts unfold. Thegreatdr ( talk) 20:35, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Another editor on IRC pointed out that the TC project is underrepresented on the Main Page's Selected anniversaries. It looks like only about a dozen entries have been included, at first glance. Since anybody can add more SA entries, does anybody have any suggestions? – Juliancolton | Talk 01:11, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Do we know how many TC anniversaries we have up there? Just looking at today's, the ones that are up there are pretty important - purchase of Alaska, change in government in China, drug treaty, big event in Vietnam War, and assassination attempt of a U.S. president. While it's somewhat U.S.-centered, they're also pretty important. I would think the ones we include would have to be major worldwide events, in which case tropical cyclones actually change the history of the world significantly.
Examples: Katrina making landfall (costliest hurricane ever), Tip's lowest pressure, the Bhola cyclone (caused a civil war, deadliest worldwide), Tracy (costliest Australian cyclone), the Galveston hurricane (deadliest US). I'd imagine those ones are already up there, though.
Somewhat lesser important ones that should be up there are Andrew (2nd costliest Atlantic), 1780 Great hurricane (deadliest Atlantic), Mitch (2nd deadliest Atlantic, deadliest Atlantic in 3 centuries), Nargis (worst Myanmar/Burmese disaster, among the deadliest worldwide), Nina 75 (date when it caused the dam disaster which killed 150,000), 1991 Bangladesh cyclone, Tropical Storm Thelma 91 (deadliest Philippine storm), Vera 59 (costliest/deadliest Japan typhoon), John 94 (longest lasting hurricane).
Some maybe ones: Linda 97 (deadliest Vietnam storm), 1959 Mexico hurricane (deadliest EPAC hurricane - was it the deadliest Mexico hurricane in general?), Leon-Eline (one of the deadliest SWIO cyclones), Catarina, Iniki (costliest Hawaiian hurricane), Jeanne 04 (one of the deadliest Haiti cyclones), 1938 New England hurricane (historic US hurricane), 1928 and 1926 Florida hurricanes (both historic). ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 18:17, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
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As detailed in last week's Signpost, WikiProject Wikipedia books is undertaking a cleanup all Wikipedia books. Particularly, the {{ saved book}} template has been updated to allow editors to specify the default covers of the books. Title, subtitle, cover-image, and cover-color can all be specified, and an HTML preview of the cover will be generated and shown on the book's page (an example of such a cover is found on the right). Ideally, all books in Category:Book-Class Tropical cyclone articles should have covers.
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This seems like a good idea to me, since a few older FAs require updating or overhauling. If everybody could pick an FA and decide whether or not it needs attention, that would be great. Thanks, – Juliancolton | Talk 00:03, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
This has become a minor issue lately as to whether there were 17, 18, or 19 TDs in 1984. If you use NHC's non-development database, you could come up with 20, though one was clearly an extratropical cyclone on NMC surface weather maps when it was near Florida, which is why 20 isn't viable. The system in their non-developmental database in early August northeast of Bermuda was well out at sea and at the limb of Meteosat imagery in the cold sector of the main polar front (it nearly appears frontal itself on a couple images though from that angle it's questionable). Another question is whether we are to follow current guidelines (where subtropical and tropical depression numbers are counted together) or 1984 guidelines, where subtropical storms/depressions were on a different numbering system? Curious what you all think, because I'm not clear.
Also, the ACE statistics for each storm are being attacked for their non-referenceableness (if that is a word). If there is no way to resolve the reference issue, I'll have to remove it. If you have any opinion against that, include it in the 1984 Atlantic hurricane season GA review. This GA review is of particular importance, because it will form the template with how we deal with tropical depressions in the 1981-1987 seasons, the years without Atlantic tropical weather system articles. Thegreatdr ( talk) 15:33, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Today I wrote a short stub article on Scorpion Reef a small reef and island chain located in the Southern Gulf of Mexico. I actually stumbled across the Hurricane Henri (1979) while looking around for a TC article in need of improvement, as I was scrolling down the 1979 list my eye caught the attention of Henri's track which went right over the island chain whos article I had just created. And I was even more surprised to find out, that the NHC and every single source out there claims that it made no landfalls or even affected any land in the Gulf of Mexico. Im not trying to look like a nut job doing WP:OR, but it truly looks like Henri impacted Scorpion Reef (Which is inhabited by the way) in some way shape or form. I read a week ago in signpost, about Wikipedia had corrected an age old error about the Rhine River and this anomaly I have stumbled upon might be another. So given all your expertise on Tropical Cyclones, I was wondering if you could point me toward the best track map or list of coordinates that Henri went over so I can use that to determine if it indeed landfalled, or made a direct hit on Scorpion reef. Cheers - Marcusmax( speak) 02:13, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Heres the Template:Hurdat data for the system (see edit screen). Jason Rees ( talk) 02:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
To create books, simply click on the "Create a book" link, which can be found in the "print/export" toolbox on the left of your screen. See Help:Books if you need help, or just drop me a line if you are still confused/unsure of yourself. Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 10:46, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that you manually update your list of FA, DYKs, etc... You could use JL-BOT to save you the trouble you know... See {{ User:JL-Bot/Project content}}. It's quite handy and very customizable. Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 19:06, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Should we add a conversion for inches of Mercury in the mini infobox used in most of the season articles? I got that comment in an FLC I'm working on. On one hand, it's good to have both metric and imperial units whenever possible, although I seem to recall avoiding the inHg because it made the template too big, as well as inHg not being used much anymore. Thoughts? --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 17:08, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
See here. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:39, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
The 2009 JTWC ATCR Has just been released within the last hour or two. The most significant typhoons in the JTWCs eyes this year are Dujuan, Lupit & Parma. Jason Rees ( talk) 21:58, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
We have dozens, possibly even hundreds, of citations to various issues of the Monthly Weather Review, but most of them are formatted as webpages rather than journals. (I've only recently discovered how to properly cite the MWR, so I'm also at fault.) Any help in correcting this would be appreciated. – Juliancolton | Talk 20:07, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
<ref>{{cite journal|volume=39|issue=8|authors=W. F. Reed|work=[[Monthly Weather Review]]|publisher=[[American Meteorological Society]]|page=1149–1150|date=August 1911|accessdate=April 29, 2010|title=The Small Hurricane of August 11-12, 1911 at Pensacola, FLA|url=http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/038/mwr-038-08-1296.pdf|format=PDF}}</ref>
Volume and issue information can be found at the AMS site, if you scroll down to the journal's respective year (volume) and month (issue). – Juliancolton | Talk 20:47, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
I put Hurricane Dennis up for FARC, because it really doesn't meet the FA criteria anymore. Hurricanehink ( talk) 21:41, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
The project is back to 1956 now, which was the original intent when these graphics started to be systematically produced in 2002/2003. However, CLIQR has changed that, and I will produce graphics bridging back to 1950. This doesn't leave me many Atlantic tropical cyclones left which impacted the United States. However, more graphics will be produced for Mexico, or for eastern Pacific systems which impacted the West, where progress has been lagging so far. Thegreatdr ( talk) 02:03, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
I plan on nominating that for FAC in the coming weeks. Any help would be appreciated. I feel that recently we haven't had much luck on FAC's, and perhaps some greater collaborations would help. Hurricanehink ( talk) 16:42, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi Guys
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Just thought I'd let the project know - {{ Hurricane disambig}} is nominated for deletion (I did it). Considering that this is a deprecated template that's not transcluded anywhere, I don't expect that this will be controversial, but I still should let you all know. SchuminWeb ( Talk) 02:02, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Since Plasticup has suddenly stopped editing, no one has been around to finish the review comments for Tropical Storm Gamma. I would rather not fail this article and let it sit around again so if someone would be kind enough to take over for Plasticup and finish up the article, I would be happy to keep the GAN going. Since I know this wont be replied to immediately, I'm keeping the article up at GAN for a week to allow someone to take over and when someone does, I'll give them another week to complete it. Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 19:48, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I have come with a concern that's been bothering me. Lately, (over the last year and a half), different users on IRC and in individual season articles for jargon term "calling" an article. I have a feeling that calling an article for writing is inciting too much competition. I also believe we're starting to create articles for unnotable storms during its lifetime. Although people believe models, they aren't always correct or reliable, and should not be used in determining an article's creation. This incites that the storm may not end up doing anything, and therefore the article serves on a worthless storm. I would prefer that consensus be decided and that the storm had some kind of precursor effect for a storm is planned to affect land or make a record. Mitch/ HC32 21:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
[1] I am fixing infoboxes for the old SWIO seasons in this sandbox, and I found a "little" problem, I have a storm, Heather of 1992 that is not in the JTWC ATCR or International Best Track. The only place that I can find it in is the MFR best track for the storm: [2] that places it as a 90 knot Intense Tropical Cyclone with 930 mbar. That seems dubious because the JTWC did not monitor it at all. Any thoughts?
-- An ha mi rak 23:31, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Needs eyes. Dabomb87 ( talk) 20:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Since it holds the record for precipitations, shouldn't that storm be on the requested articles page? I don't claim to know much about the subject but it seems odd to leave this one out. 173.176.2.65 ( talk) 18:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Please have a look at the merging proposal at commons:Category:Tropical cyclone tracks. Though it seems not appropriate the actual cat structure there needs some refurbishing. ;-) -- Matthiasb ( talk) 20:18, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I am translating some articles about Tropical cyclones and I've a question. When you use the term "billion" in yours articles, that meaning use:
It's very important because in a lot of languages use 1012 to refer billion.-- KRLS ( talk) 00:25, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Inspired by the
USRD county challenge, I propose a challenge of our own:
To write or expand a stub/start article to GA status from each of the 8 (eight) basins, all of which must be mid-importance or higher
Season articles are allowed, and to avoid bias, the GA reviews cannot be done from anyone else in the competition. Any articles to be expanded must be start or stub class at of the start of the challenge. Interested? Then sign up! ♬♩
Hurricanehink (
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15:22, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Participants
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Jason Rees
HurricaneSpin
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Titoxd
Yellow Evan
Hi everyone! I'd like to do a report on this WikiProject for an upcoming edition of the Wikipedia Signpost. Are there any members who are familiar with how the WikiProject works and its history and who would be willing to answer a few questions? Thanks! Kirill [talk] [pf] 13:04, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
When the severe weather article structure recently became unwieldy, a couple of us decided to tackle the thunderstorm article, which is of some interest to this project. It was delisted as a GA in October 2006 and looks ready to regain GA status. Thegreatdr ( talk) 19:18, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
I am curious of about joining this project about tropical cyclones, and as a Filipino living in a typhoon zone, I'd like to contribute about typhoons in our basin. Typhoon activity is so high there, that the strongest storm Typhoon Tip formed in the basin and its rainbands affected the Philippines in 1979. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sir Jazer 13 ( talk • contribs) 10:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
I removed the 2009 AHS section in the ACE table, and Prosfilaes ( talk · contribs) reinserted it. I want to see how most of WPTC members opinions at should we put current seasons in the ACE table?. Darren 23 My Contributions 01:35, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I think Juliancolotn was talking about 2009 AHS, as the TCR's or the BT data have not come out. No major editors (I mean respected autoconfirmed editors) have updated it. Darren 23 My Contributions 01:35, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
On the 2009 WPac seasonal article. A user, Typhoon2009 showed TCNA coding for JMA Tropical Depressions that gave clear numberings of the depressions. However, other users want to use the older method. I just want to see what the consensus is for this. -- Anh ami rak 01:49, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Even if you incorporates all the depressions, it doesn't mean that your numbers are valid. Anything not numbered by JMA should be kept unnumbered. If there is a depression, say, named by PAGASA but not numbered by JMA, then just state PAGASA's name without a number. If there is no official designation, simply not to use any name or number. eg. CWB tropical depression. Typhoon2009 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:50, 12 September 2009 (UTC).
Let's make another comparison, suppose we have TD 1 in an Atlantic season. Then, in post-season analysis, NHC recognize a TC before TD 1. Will you renumber TD 1 to TD 2? Of course not, even if it's not the first TD in the season. Even if TD x is in fact the y-th TD from your point of view, you are not allowed to call it TD y in an encyclopedia, as long as the official designation is TD x. Typhoon2009 ( talk) 05:56, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Acctully the WWJP25s are on my side not yours and as such it is one depression. Jason Rees ( talk) 14:07, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
The lowest resolution of the links is here. The page which has all the links is here. Thegreatdr ( talk) 12:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
The project needs to be aware that their are two categories for deleation going on at the minute. Both involve the naming of the SWIO basin as a whole.
Jason Rees ( talk) 16:13, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Respectfully suggest that the experts here focus a bit on that article. It appears likely that there were hundreds of deaths in the Phillipines (73 confirmed as of now), and that this is a megadisaster whose scope will become clear over the next week. (The satellite convection maps showed all of Luzon black for hours. Since that's mountainous terrain, news will be slow to get out and some of the worst flooding may be yet to come.) Looie496 ( talk) 17:00, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Theirs a lot of eyes on the PTS at the minute so im sure it will be taken care off. Jason Rees ( talk) 17:15, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Working on DEP, I came across 2009 International Series hurricane season, which looks to be a listing of names already discussed in articles such as 2009 Pacific hurricane season and 2009 Atlantic hurricane season. I really don't know enough about hurricanes (don't live in an area where we ever have them -- we whine about 30 mph winds here) to know if there's a good redirect target, if this title just needs to be fleshed out, or if it needs deletion. Hopefully someone here can take a look a sort it out. Thanks!-- Fabrictramp | talk to me 21:08, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
I just downloaded a program that access archived NEXRAD data back to 1993 (I think), so I'm now able to create animations such as File:Hurricane Isabel NEXRAD radar animation.gif. Feel free to let me know if you have any candidates for new animations in mind. – Juliancolton | Talk 01:03, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
If we use JMA for the Season Effects tables in Pacific typhoon season articles, shouldn't we use it for the PTS timeline graphics too? Should we maintain consistency? Darren 23 Edits| Mail 13:49, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
This is an idea that I've seen WP:MILHIST use – what if WPTC had its own coordinators (consisting of one lead coordinator and five co-coordinators)? Just a thought. -- Dylan 620 ( contribs, logs, review) 01:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
As of the past few months, GANs have been sitting longer and longer without review within the project, apparently due to the slow dropout of people from the met and TC projects as a whole. Julian and I were discussing this on his talk page, and we think we found a palatable way of resolving this problem. We should institute a policy of not submitting more GAN candidates than people are willing to review. This would mean, for instance, if you submit 4 articles for GAN, you should be willing (or able) to review 4 articles up for GAN in the meantime, which would expedite the process of review as well. This way we can avoid coming up with an arbitrary number to limit GAN requests, and resolve our backlog at the same time. Articles could still be improved enough for GAN in the meantime...but it would delay their GA nominations until the queue was flushed out. The assumption made here is that people who improve articles to GA status will be able to review articles for GA as well. What does the project think? Thegreatdr ( talk) 14:33, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
The WMO Website has had a bit of a revamp, and will now have on there links to all of the offical BTS since 2004. Also worth noting is that the RSMCs and TCWCs are having a meeting next month, which means we will have a lot of BT coming out and hints to why thing have occured (eg: Why TCWC Wellington upgraded CY Gene to a cat 3 after it left the tropics). Jason Rees ( talk) 14:16, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey, as this storm has hit category 5, it needs to be added to the topic. You have 3 months from the date of the article's creation, or until 18 January, to add the article to the topic with a fully completed PR, and 3 months from the date of dissipation (which I realise will only be a couple of days later :P) to have the article at GA. Thanks - rst20xx ( talk) 21:19, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Euston - We have a major problem - the JTWC have finally implemented their portal thingy which they have been threatening to do all year. Thus all of the ATCRS and links to the besttracks will have gone dead. However they are still on the JTWCs website and are located here. Jason Rees ( talk) 00:31, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Jason Rees and I have been discussing a proposal in the IRC. Its about reviewing the project every December and July where most editors are active and !voting about things which need to be changed such as project processes and style of articles, etc. To me, long and dramatic discussion might be avoided by doing biannually.Also, in addition, 2 users will be elected to oversee this process and make special polls when urgent change is needed. Darren 23 Edits| Mail 23:16, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
This is a heads-up that there is a typhoon named Mirinae (local name Santi) currently headed toward the Phillipines and set to smack right into the middle of Luzon in a day or so. It looks like it has the potential to create a rainfall disaster on the scale of Ketsana if not worse, so it might be worth setting up the basic structure of an article pretty soon. (Google News shows a bunch of stories about ongoing disaster preparations.) Looie496 ( talk) 19:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
The loss of Juliancolton from wikipedia concerns me, though it doesn't surprise me. Wikipedia can become a frustrating place over the years, project matters aside, which is why some of us have been lessening our work load on here. I moved him to inactive, for now. I guess the big question becomes, "Can this project survive?" In order for it to survive, we need to be inclusive concerning new editors and review more GAN/FAC articles to prevent backlogs from forming on the GAN/FAC pages. I've been more active in updating a couple of the many templates used to simply track status within the project, like the Noticeboard. This past month, the GAN backlog has been reducing, because Cyclonebiskit and myself have been reviewing more articles. Jason has also helped out earlier in the year. But we need more than 3 people available to review GANs for the project. I'm concerned that the project seems to be dying off slowly as more established editors leave, the way the meteorology project did a few years ago. If that happens, we'll be lucky to get GAN candidates reviewed within 3 months, which will further erode significant editing/improvements within the project. Thegreatdr ( talk) 17:38, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
I personally find the information included within the Tropical Storm Grace (2009) article quite interesting, even if it is potentially awkward/embarassing to NHC. It might be worth adding similar information into other tropical cyclone-related articles. Thegreatdr ( talk) 00:56, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
As part of the wind/pressure series of articles I've been in the process of upgrading in 2009, both Air mass and trade wind are currently up for GAN. Thegreatdr ( talk) 20:01, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
– Juliancolton | Talk 00:06, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Currently:
– Juliancolton | Talk 01:55, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
I strongly feel that all the Cyclones outside the NHC AOR should be based on the RSMC Category not the JTWC Category, since the JTWC is tottally unoffical even though they named the systems in WPAC from 1945-2000. As i didnt think this was going to be controversial so i went ahead and changed most articles to reflect the RSMC intensity. However both Cyclonebiskit and JC hate it as apparently most people who read en-wiki will only know the SSHS which in my mind is bullshit as if you look most people do take their information from their NMHSS which in turn either do their own forecasting or take their information from a RSMC or TCWC.
Also under the old system pages were being overcategorised - taking a Cat 5 SPAC Cyclone as an example. It used to go into Cat 3 Cyclones and SPAC cyclones. Where as under the new system they just go into Cat5 SPAC cyclones and Cat 5 SPAC Cyclones goes into SPAC Cyclones which saves us having an over categorisation. Jason Rees ( talk) 21:18, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Since this is one of the bigger projects, and that quite several Wikipedia-Books are hurricanes related, could this project adopt the book-class? This would really help WikiProject Wikipedia-Books, as the WP:TC people can oversee books much better than we could as far as merging, deletion, content, and such are concerned. Eventually there probably will be a "Books for discussion" process, so that would be incorporated in the Article Alerts. I'm placing this here rather than on the template page since several taskforces would be concerned.
There's an article in this week Signpost if you aren't familiar with Wikipedia-Books and classes in general. Thanks. Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 20:31, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Hurricane Floyd for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. – Juliancolton | Talk 02:29, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Category:Tropical cyclone tracks is in a complete mess at the moment, which makes maintenance (on Commons) and actual usage of the files harder as a result. I've got a couple specific concerns I'd like to try and address - obviously want WPTC's input.
The last two are fairly straightforward to fix. For example, by-basin subcategories are probably sufficient for now. The real problem is the naming. I'd like a consistent layout for both named and unnamed storms, with the storm name/number occurring in the same place in the file name. Its also Atlantic-centric at present as "Tropical Storm 1 track.png" will always be an Atlantic storm.
My suggestion would be something like "<year> <basin> tropical cyclone <name/number> track.png", possibly altering "tropical cyclone" to the appropriate specific type. For the two examples, I give the new names would something like 2001 Southern hemisphere (or Australian maybe?) tropical storm 1 track.png and 2005 Atlantic Hurricane Katrina track.png. The main advantage of this layout (with year and basin first) is that it allows identification of missing files more readily than having the year at the end. There's also a complication with the unofficially named storms (such as File:1947 Fort Lauderdale hurricane track.png), I'd suggest moving it to the storm number (in this case 6) and leaving the description to provide the name.
There are two complications to any mass-rename. First is the technical aspect of actually moving the files (requires a Commons admin such as myself). The other is its no use renaming the files if the tracks program churns out files with a different syntax, storms.pl would need updating. I want to make some changes to the file names as I'm pretty sure the current content has both redundant and duplicate files - due to re-analysis and inconsistent naming respectively. It would also make a potential future mass upload easier. Comments?-- Nilf anion ( talk) 00:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Should this be renamed WP:Books/1941 Atlantic hurricane season? It's the only one named differently than "YYYY Atlantic/Pacific hurricane season", so I'm wondering if it's meant to be different, or just incomplete. Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 04:43, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
In other news, the number of FA's and GA's under the WikiProject's belt finally exceeds the number of Start-Class articles we have. [1] Titoxd( ?!? - cool stuff) 18:42, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
The NHC have just confirmed that they are going to add on 12 hours to the lead time of hurricane watches/warnings. This follows the example set by NWS GUAM and the CPHC which increased last year. http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2010/20100105_nhc.html Jason Rees ( talk) 20:34, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Since the departure of a few crucial project members, I've noticed that the collective quality of our articles has somewhat declined over recent months. Many new articles, regardless of their actual quality, are simply assessed as C-Class and left to stagnate. While I used to be against merging or redirecting stubs, I think we need to go through Category:Stub-Class Tropical cyclone storm articles, Category:Start-Class Tropical cyclone storm articles, and Category:C-Class Tropical cyclone storm articles to decide which articles should be kept, and which would be better off as part of a broader article. For example, Tropical Storm Edouard (1990) is rather short, and, no disrespect intended to the original author, it could be condensed and merged the 1990 season page; we then have one less article requiring cleanup to deal with. – Juliancolton | Talk 18:30, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
i guess this is the right place for this. i'm lookin at a featured (or good) topic for offseason atlantic hurricanes, but noone can help me. its based off List of off-season Atlantic hurricanes, and theres articles for every named storm in that list. the featured topic crit says "All articles in the topic are linked together, preferably using a template, and share a common category or super-category." does that count using that article? the category (Category:Off-season Atlantic tropical cyclones) includes alot more articles than what are in the list article. can anyone help me please?! -- Viennaiswaiting ( talk) 17:11, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Someone needs to address this, either by delisting its GA or taking over where Hurricanehink left off in April. Which does the project prefer? Thegreatdr ( talk) 17:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
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I was flicking through one of the reports (page5) of the WMO/ESCAP typhoon committee earlier (which meets during next week). I noticed that Japan uses the typhoon committee scale (ie TD TS STS TY) and then its own scale goes on to use "Very Strong TY" and "Violent TY". So i was wondering could we use these in the WPAC to solve various problems like the timelines? Jason Rees ( talk) 17:12, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Can someone give me a key to the codes and what they mean? I figured out IDQP's are cyclone advices, and ABPW10's are summaries of what is going on in western and south pacific. Syntheticalconnections ( talk) 02:39, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
At the moment I am correcting and trying to improve many of the stubs on Haiti geopgraphical features created in the wake of the Haitiy earthquake in the German Wikipedia so also the article on Les Cayes. So I came on this topic. I wonder, if it was that storm which destroyed most of that town on August 12, 1831. Maybe you could improve 1831 Atlantic hurricane season#Great Barbados Hurricane using some of the informations provided in that link (German) claiming that whole street were destroyed by an three hours lasting Orkan (note that the the word Orkan in the German language denotes any storm of BF 11, the word Hurrikan as a translation for hurricane is rather new, maybe since the 1960s, while the expression Hurricane was formerly actually used for a mainly forrested area which was destroyed by was nowadays is called a tornado; the expression was introduced AFAIK by Friedrich Gerstäcker and Balduin Möllhausen which both extensively travelled in the US in the mid of 19th century).. the results were described as that most roofs were torn down, many houses destroyed an alsmost 2000 people have died. -- Matthiasb ( talk) 22:41, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
I can't believe this is coming up again, but the largest Atlantic hurricane template is seeing a lot of editing/reverting activity concerning Ike's size, which is just outside the top 10 when using gale wind diameter. NCDC made a statement on their web page which is causing the confusion. We need to stay vigilant on this, since the already existing references support a diameter closer to 400 miles, not 900. I've e-mailed NCDC, and sent a copy of the e-mail to NHC, concerning this issue. Thegreatdr ( talk) 21:03, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
NCDC sent me an e-mail mentioning they'd be taking down all references to Ike's size within their web pages over the coming days. Thegreatdr ( talk) 01:48, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure who handles the track maps, but I had a little query for an article I'm working on. The track appears to end just off the coat, which is how it appears in Unisys [8] as well, but the TCR [9] has it moving inland. Is there any way to add that last data point to the track, so the map has it going inland? Thx --- Viennaiswaiting ( talk) 02:21, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Should the NHC ever put the naming lists up again for six years in the future in early January like they have done this season. It doesnt mean that theres NOT GONNA BE ANY RETIREMENTS OF NAMES AT THE WMO Meeting. I say this as in 2004 the NHC placed up the lists for 2009 and included Fabian and Isabel, which were later retired by the WMO. [10] Jason Rees ( talk) 19:11, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Just a warning i have just updated the Inflation template so values in the infobox will be out of whack with those in articles unless Template:Inflation is used. Jason Rees ( talk) 04:32, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
I am curious of about joining this project about tropical cyclones, and as a Filipino living in a typhoon zone, I'd like to contribute about typhoons in our basin. Typhoon activity is so high there, that the strongest storm Typhoon Tip formed in the basin and its rainbands affected the Philippines in 1979. -- Sir Jazer 13 ( talk) 10:32, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
After some prodding through a talk page comment, the Allen article has been substantially improved through reformatting of references and the addition of a preparations section. Once five fact tags can be replaced with refs, and the lead expanded to some degree, it can be GANed. As a project, we really need to improve articles for storms such as Allen to GA class due to their high importance to the TC project. Thegreatdr ( talk) 23:27, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
I remind reviewers and editors of tropical cyclone articles that there are numerous errors relating to the Longshore reference. I have volunteered to help in its editing, and I'm up to 65 individual errors within the first 230 pages of the book after an initial skimming (though to be fair about one-third are metric/imperial unit conversion errors). And these are the ones that were obvious to me. A more thorough search/fact check would likely find more errors. Thegreatdr ( talk) 15:54, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Is he director of the NHC or the TPC or both? The article is confusing/contradicting in this point. -- Matthiasb ( talk) 16:16, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I was wondering if we could color the black and white NRL images to make them similar to the images found on the MODIS rapid response system web page. I've made a comparison image. Please leave comment on ways to improve the image, or if you disagree with the change. Supportstorm ( talk) 03:20, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I have nominated Hurricane Katrina for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sceptre ( talk) 00:30, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
We now have all NHEM BT for 2009 bar the IMD who are yet to report. All season articles have been updated with the BT but several of the Storm articles havent. If anyone can provide any assistance please do so. Thanks Jason Rees ( talk) 19:40, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Jeff Masters is currently reporting that there is a South Atlantic Tropical Disturbance of the cost of brazil. Eyes are requested to be kept on South Atlantic Tropical Cyclone as this system can not go in to the article quite yet. Jason Rees ( talk) 01:05, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
After going through a long stretch of having less than 10 articles on GAR at any one time for the met project, we blossomed into the teens within the past couple weeks (with 10 part of this project), with minimal reviews being carried out over that time. I've reviewed 3 articles since my last article on GAR was reviewed in mid-February, so I'm doing my part here, but I can't do this all by myself. We need some experienced editors familiar with reviewing GAs to clear out some of the queue before any more GAR requests are added to the list. Hurricane Fifi is in need of a non-regular reviewer since Julian, myself, and Cyclonebiskit aren't able to review it since we've previously contributed a bit to the article. Any help would be appreciated. Thegreatdr ( talk) 14:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Ill take a look over these ones over the next few days:
I have, admittedly arbitrarily, reassessed this article as A-Class; an explanation can be found at the article's discussion page. Since A-Class is quite underused, I'm wondering if this should be our standing for promoting new articles. Thoughts? – Juliancolton | Talk 04:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Ummm why doesn't this cyclone (arguably one of the most powerful ever) lack an article? Shouldn't being a powerful cyclone already be a basis for notability? 121.96.131.167 ( talk) 02:45, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
When I have translated Hurricane Easy (1951) to catalan wikipedia, I have seen a mistake. It say: "On September 15, it attained Category 3 status with 115 mph (185 km/h) sustained winds, and it intensified to its maximum intensity of 160 mph (260 km/h) on September 7. " when hurricane Easy dissipated September 13. I think that, the writer can write "On Septembre 5", but I kwow us that solve it.-- KRLS ( talk) 12:49, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
When I translated Tropical Storm Marco (2008), I found a mistake too, but anyone say nothing ( Talk:Tropical Storm Marco (2008)).-- KRLS ( talk) 11:00, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
That section of the town's article consists pretty much of 'canes affecting the town but they're generally unsourced. I will try to add some sources I find but if one would have some sources in mind please add them. Thx. -- Matthiasb ( talk) 06:44, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
During my continued research on Pacific typhoons in Japan between 2000-2009, I have discovered that Typhoon Chataan in 2002 caused a record shattering 2.7 trillion yen in damage ($29.8 billion US dollars). This amount is higher than any storm in the basin and even higher than the total damage for entire seasons. Continued research may find more damaging storms over the coming days; however, this extreme amount (determined by the Japanese disaster agencies) is the highest of any storm outside the Atlantic basin. It also approaches the damage scale of Hurricane Ike in 2008, ranking it as one of the costliest tropical cyclones ever. Any editors who have time to contribute to this article please do. As a personal and project goal, I would like to get Typhoon Chataan (or Chata'an) to featured status ASAP. For quick acess to Japanese damage reports, this link is to the disaster page for the typhoon on Digital Typhoon. To view the actual reports in an understandable way, use Google Translate and copy the URL to translate an entire report. Hopefully we can get this rolling immediately and get this stub to FA. Thanks, Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 14:03, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
We haven't had much luck in working together on individual storm articles, I'm sorry to say, despite some attempts over the years. The tropical cyclone coordination to improve the article to FA was likely our finest hour as a project. While the Hurricane Camille coordination last year bore some fruit, it still needs work to attempt GA passage, mainly referencing issues. Other "important" articles (always in the eye of the beholder), such as Hurricane Ike, also need a bit of work. People correctly point out that starting a new article from scratch and improving it yourself is the easiest road to GA, but this doesn't fit wikipedia MoS policy for articles already in existence. It might be best to ask a few people individually if they're willing to help, rather than a general project plea for help. It might work out better. Let us know how the efforts unfold. Thegreatdr ( talk) 20:35, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Another editor on IRC pointed out that the TC project is underrepresented on the Main Page's Selected anniversaries. It looks like only about a dozen entries have been included, at first glance. Since anybody can add more SA entries, does anybody have any suggestions? – Juliancolton | Talk 01:11, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Do we know how many TC anniversaries we have up there? Just looking at today's, the ones that are up there are pretty important - purchase of Alaska, change in government in China, drug treaty, big event in Vietnam War, and assassination attempt of a U.S. president. While it's somewhat U.S.-centered, they're also pretty important. I would think the ones we include would have to be major worldwide events, in which case tropical cyclones actually change the history of the world significantly.
Examples: Katrina making landfall (costliest hurricane ever), Tip's lowest pressure, the Bhola cyclone (caused a civil war, deadliest worldwide), Tracy (costliest Australian cyclone), the Galveston hurricane (deadliest US). I'd imagine those ones are already up there, though.
Somewhat lesser important ones that should be up there are Andrew (2nd costliest Atlantic), 1780 Great hurricane (deadliest Atlantic), Mitch (2nd deadliest Atlantic, deadliest Atlantic in 3 centuries), Nargis (worst Myanmar/Burmese disaster, among the deadliest worldwide), Nina 75 (date when it caused the dam disaster which killed 150,000), 1991 Bangladesh cyclone, Tropical Storm Thelma 91 (deadliest Philippine storm), Vera 59 (costliest/deadliest Japan typhoon), John 94 (longest lasting hurricane).
Some maybe ones: Linda 97 (deadliest Vietnam storm), 1959 Mexico hurricane (deadliest EPAC hurricane - was it the deadliest Mexico hurricane in general?), Leon-Eline (one of the deadliest SWIO cyclones), Catarina, Iniki (costliest Hawaiian hurricane), Jeanne 04 (one of the deadliest Haiti cyclones), 1938 New England hurricane (historic US hurricane), 1928 and 1926 Florida hurricanes (both historic). ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 18:17, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello, If you haven't found out yet, webcite is back up and all the archived pages work again! -- Dil Ho om Ho om Kare 15:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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This seems like a good idea to me, since a few older FAs require updating or overhauling. If everybody could pick an FA and decide whether or not it needs attention, that would be great. Thanks, – Juliancolton | Talk 00:03, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
This has become a minor issue lately as to whether there were 17, 18, or 19 TDs in 1984. If you use NHC's non-development database, you could come up with 20, though one was clearly an extratropical cyclone on NMC surface weather maps when it was near Florida, which is why 20 isn't viable. The system in their non-developmental database in early August northeast of Bermuda was well out at sea and at the limb of Meteosat imagery in the cold sector of the main polar front (it nearly appears frontal itself on a couple images though from that angle it's questionable). Another question is whether we are to follow current guidelines (where subtropical and tropical depression numbers are counted together) or 1984 guidelines, where subtropical storms/depressions were on a different numbering system? Curious what you all think, because I'm not clear.
Also, the ACE statistics for each storm are being attacked for their non-referenceableness (if that is a word). If there is no way to resolve the reference issue, I'll have to remove it. If you have any opinion against that, include it in the 1984 Atlantic hurricane season GA review. This GA review is of particular importance, because it will form the template with how we deal with tropical depressions in the 1981-1987 seasons, the years without Atlantic tropical weather system articles. Thegreatdr ( talk) 15:33, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Today I wrote a short stub article on Scorpion Reef a small reef and island chain located in the Southern Gulf of Mexico. I actually stumbled across the Hurricane Henri (1979) while looking around for a TC article in need of improvement, as I was scrolling down the 1979 list my eye caught the attention of Henri's track which went right over the island chain whos article I had just created. And I was even more surprised to find out, that the NHC and every single source out there claims that it made no landfalls or even affected any land in the Gulf of Mexico. Im not trying to look like a nut job doing WP:OR, but it truly looks like Henri impacted Scorpion Reef (Which is inhabited by the way) in some way shape or form. I read a week ago in signpost, about Wikipedia had corrected an age old error about the Rhine River and this anomaly I have stumbled upon might be another. So given all your expertise on Tropical Cyclones, I was wondering if you could point me toward the best track map or list of coordinates that Henri went over so I can use that to determine if it indeed landfalled, or made a direct hit on Scorpion reef. Cheers - Marcusmax( speak) 02:13, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Heres the Template:Hurdat data for the system (see edit screen). Jason Rees ( talk) 02:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
To create books, simply click on the "Create a book" link, which can be found in the "print/export" toolbox on the left of your screen. See Help:Books if you need help, or just drop me a line if you are still confused/unsure of yourself. Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 10:46, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that you manually update your list of FA, DYKs, etc... You could use JL-BOT to save you the trouble you know... See {{ User:JL-Bot/Project content}}. It's quite handy and very customizable. Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 19:06, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Should we add a conversion for inches of Mercury in the mini infobox used in most of the season articles? I got that comment in an FLC I'm working on. On one hand, it's good to have both metric and imperial units whenever possible, although I seem to recall avoiding the inHg because it made the template too big, as well as inHg not being used much anymore. Thoughts? --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 17:08, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
See here. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:39, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
The 2009 JTWC ATCR Has just been released within the last hour or two. The most significant typhoons in the JTWCs eyes this year are Dujuan, Lupit & Parma. Jason Rees ( talk) 21:58, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
We have dozens, possibly even hundreds, of citations to various issues of the Monthly Weather Review, but most of them are formatted as webpages rather than journals. (I've only recently discovered how to properly cite the MWR, so I'm also at fault.) Any help in correcting this would be appreciated. – Juliancolton | Talk 20:07, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
<ref>{{cite journal|volume=39|issue=8|authors=W. F. Reed|work=[[Monthly Weather Review]]|publisher=[[American Meteorological Society]]|page=1149–1150|date=August 1911|accessdate=April 29, 2010|title=The Small Hurricane of August 11-12, 1911 at Pensacola, FLA|url=http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/038/mwr-038-08-1296.pdf|format=PDF}}</ref>
Volume and issue information can be found at the AMS site, if you scroll down to the journal's respective year (volume) and month (issue). – Juliancolton | Talk 20:47, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
I put Hurricane Dennis up for FARC, because it really doesn't meet the FA criteria anymore. Hurricanehink ( talk) 21:41, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
The project is back to 1956 now, which was the original intent when these graphics started to be systematically produced in 2002/2003. However, CLIQR has changed that, and I will produce graphics bridging back to 1950. This doesn't leave me many Atlantic tropical cyclones left which impacted the United States. However, more graphics will be produced for Mexico, or for eastern Pacific systems which impacted the West, where progress has been lagging so far. Thegreatdr ( talk) 02:03, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
I plan on nominating that for FAC in the coming weeks. Any help would be appreciated. I feel that recently we haven't had much luck on FAC's, and perhaps some greater collaborations would help. Hurricanehink ( talk) 16:42, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi Guys
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