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Hello WProject, please see Template_talk:S-line#Template-protected_edit_request_on_12_January_2022 for a discussion regarding changing the styling of that template. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 15:07, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
New article on the Maynaguri train accident. Needs expansion. Mjroots ( talk) 07:46, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Wikipedia:FOAMER and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 18#Wikipedia:FOAMER until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Certes ( talk) 13:35, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
An IP editor has systematically unlinked several redlinks in railway articles. I'm not sure which are notable enough to deserve a future article, but an interested editor may wish to restore some of the links. Certes ( talk) 16:53, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Can someone take a look at the map on the Santo Domingo Metro article please, it's being pushed down by the infobox but the expand button is appearing on top of the box, blocking some text and the map itself is hiding part of the following section. I can't immediately spot what is causing it myself. Thryduulf ( talk) 13:12, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello again, WP Trains folks! Last time I was here, I asked about 1,200 unused S-line templates, and you were quite helpful. Since then, editors have updated many more articles to use {{ Adjacent stations}}, and the S-line template population has been reduced even further.
This time, I am here to ask about 200 untranscluded route diagram templates, including some that have been created very recently but are not used in any articles.
You can see a near-complete list of the untranscluded (as of a few hours ago) RDTs on this page. That list excludes any templates modified in the last four months, so there are really more than 200. Here's a random sampling:
The templates depict train systems in many countries, at a level of detail that is exquisite for something that is not transcluded anywhere. There are even some brand new unused templates, created in January 2022, such as:
The level of effort that must go into creating these detailed templates makes me wonder why they are not transcluded in articles. Are they used in some other way? Who can enlighten me?
For context, there are only about 2,600 untranscluded templates that have not been edited since September 2021, so 200 RDTs is a significant fraction of those. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 00:58, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Twenty of these are unused MBTA line templates:
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With the exception of {{ MBTA Silver Line}}, these are all point-in-time historical templates. Probably suitable for a mass nomination; hard to see how they would be incorporated. Mackensen (talk) 12:24, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
I've turned up several cases of maps mistakenly removed from articles, where no-one noticed. In an ideal world, we can get the number of untranscluded RDTs down to where one showing up in such a report would help editors catch these issues. Mackensen (talk) 12:16, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Mjroots ( talk) 17:26, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Hey train editors! I've came across some Adjacent station modules that were created but then not converted. If anyone is looking for some clean up action here is the list:
Gonnym ( talk) 20:11, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi all, there's a stalled merger discussion, opened in December, at Talk:Fitzgerald Subdivision#Merger proposal that's in need of some more comments to establish consensus. Thanks. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 01:49, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
I'm interested in getting folks opinion on the use of succession templates for bus lines on train station articles in the Munich area. Puchheim station is representative, showing tables for Regional and Express bus lines operated by Münchner Verkehrsgesellschaft and Münchner Verkehrs- und Tarifverbund. For my part I think they aren't very useful to the reader and should be removed: bus stops generally aren't notable and we're not likely to ever create such articles, there aren't even articles about any of the individual bus routes here or on the German Wikipedia. I think this can be summed up with an entry in the infobox for connections, referenced to the MVV and/or MVG system maps. Mackensen (talk) 21:44, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
I've just seen this image at the top of the Rail freight transport article, and it's also used on quite a few other articles. The concept is a good and useful one - but it contains some noticeable errors, including
I've not looked in any more detail than that so there are likely other errors too. Thryduulf ( talk) 12:08, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
I can see that Panama is in the wrong color, as both the Panama Canal Railway and the Panama Metro use standard gauge. Only the mules on the Panama Canal locks still use broad gauge. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 01:41, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Do stations normally have climate data? I see a lot of airports and although the weather stations are located there the climate data only appears in the associated community. See Nobeyama Station. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 05:14, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
I have initiated a move discussion at Talk:Rail freight transport#Requested move 23 February 2022 that is of importance to this project. I'd appreciate if some editors here could weight in with their thoughts on the merits of the proposed move. Thanks. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 20:20, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
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The page says: "This page saves the documentation pre May 2014. Data is outdated. The notes are not available any more, but might be useful for research (especially the scaled gauges)." So, if interested editors want to use that info for reseach (like sourcing etc.), one could do so for one week (until deletion) or argue for keeping. - DePiep ( talk) 07:09, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
If you have an opinion, please share. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 10:49, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
I just reverted two edits by an IP at Module:Adjacent stations/Milwaukee Road. The edits looked good but "il" was not defined and many articles were showing "Lua error in Module:Adjacent_stations/Milwaukee_Road at line 38: Tried to read nil global il." Perhaps someone would be able to check what the IP was trying to do and repeat their edit with fixes if warranted. Meanwhile, that module is transcluded on 121 pages. Is there a recommended level of protection for such modules? Johnuniq ( talk) 23:03, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Shin-Ochanomizu Station#Requested move 5 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 01:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Siemens Modular Metro (Kaohsiung Metro)#Requested move 25 February 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 02:55, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
Hey, I had a couple of questions about naming conventions pages for railway stations after coming into contact with this area. I put them at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stations#Naming conventions questions. I'm unsure if one proposed guideline was ever accepted, and I have a suggestion for a page title now occupied by a historical proposal. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:31, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
I would appreciate input from additional editors at Talk:Mt. Royal / University of Baltimore / MICA station regarding the naming of several stations and what sources are reliable. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 00:06, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I recently created the draft Rail war in Belarus (2022). Any help from this project would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley ( talk) 19:16, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
I would like to suggest the creation of a page on CORA (Chicago Operating Rules Association).
These rules supplement GCOR and pertain to the greater Chicago area.
The METRA commuter trains operate under CORA, as an example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pcovello ( talk • contribs) 08:11, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
Kia ora - I've opened a discussion at Talk:Avondale Road railway station about whether that station actually existed - any input from subject-matter experts like yourselves would be appreciated! Turnagra ( talk) 06:15, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Odakyu 8000 series § Traction equipment bloat. XtraJovial ( talk) 15:15, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi all, this has been a question on my mind for a while. On our lists of railroads by state for the U.S., the lists include present railroads, historical railroads, and historical street railroads (interurbans, trolleys, and the like). I'm wondering if we should really keep these all in the same list. For example, at List of Connecticut railroads, which I've worked on a fair bit, there's 12 active railroad companies excluding heritage railroads, a bunch of defunct ones listed as well, and then a list of street railroads. I'm thinking the street railroads should be listed in a separate list article. They were regulated differently, mapped differently (take a look at the map on that article, it only lists "steam railroads") and in general street railroads were not succeeded by "steam railroads" but simply abandoned. I think it makes sense to list them in separate list articles to keep length reasonable and allow improvements to be made to each type of list separately.
In general there's a lot more documentation about what I'm referring to as "steam railroads" than about streetcar/trolley/interurban systems. There were and are exceptions, like interurbans or electric railroads which hauled or still do haul freight, but these can just be included on both articles. The way I'd like to see this be implemented, there would still be List of Connecticut railroads, but there would also be List of Connecticut street railroads or List of Connecticut streetcar operators or something along those lines for each state. Do other editors think this is reasonable? Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 14:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
I've been dealing with an IP recently adding all sorts of minor events to rail accident lists (for example, single or no fatality LC collisions; or events which happened on or near a train but had no strict relation to it - for example the recent subway shooting). I've discussed this previously with Mjroots, but he suggested taking this here. One problem with those lists is that there is no clear standard for inclusion. While there are obviously some things which don't go in, where to draw the line further up remains a bit fuzzy. I'm not sure that "only notable rail accidents which have their own article" is an appropriate standard, but beyond rejecting a few obvious WP:INDISCRIMINATE instances further down (for example, as I was noting, routine LC incidents), I can't think up of some other well accepted standard to keep these lists manageable. Suggestions would be a good idea. Cheers, RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 01:20, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Level crossing derailments can occur on infrequently used and poorly maintained track, and thus be unimportant. I think criteria should not get into such specifics. Either it has an article or could likely have an article supported by multiple sources beyond routine local coverage. MB 23:49, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
Is it desirable to keep intersection categories for just one article on a railway of a specific gauge in a specific country? WP:SMALLCAT makes an exception for "a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme", but it is not clear that these are useful here. E.g. Category:900 mm gauge railways has a lot of single-railway sub-cats by country. Please see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 April 20#Category:900 mm gauge railways in Iceland, where one of these has been nominated for merging. – Fayenatic London 11:19, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
I have been working on creating an article on the history of Wasatch Railroad Contractors, and am wondering if anyone can give a glance at the draft to help move it up to article status: /info/en/?search=Draft:Wasatch_Railroad_Contractors — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xboxtravis7992 ( talk • contribs) 00:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello members. I am writing this to initiate a discussion and to get your views & opinions on this subject matter. Lately, we are seeing a rise of higher speed (i.e. between 160-200 km/hr) commuter rail systems. There are 2 operational systems currently which I am aware of i.e the Line 18 of the Guangzhou Metro and the Guiyang railway loop line. The Delhi–Meerut Regional Rapid Transit System is under construction with multiple other similar systems planned across India. So my question is does these deserve a special article of their own or should this be a part of commuter rail or rapid transit article sections ? Regards, GoldenDragon2293Return ( talk) 04:58, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
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I am proposing to move the Hornby Railways article to "Hornby Hobbies". Past move requests have not generated much attention, so I'm notifying this wikiproject in case anyone here has opinions on the proposal. -- Eldomtom2 ( talk) 17:44, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Any reason why, in the infoboxes of Doha Metro stations, there's no table with links to the previous and next stations? We bave an article on every Green Line station (including their crossover stations with the other lines), as well as a few other Red Line stations; and the other stations have article titles in the NavBox. Animal lover 666 ( talk) 11:46, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
I believe that with any given line, the succession boxes should always run in the same direction for any given line. For example, if along most of the MBTA Red Line the left side is Alewife, this should certainly be maintained along the entire line, including both branches south of where they split. However, User:Pi.1415926535 is arguing that the Ashmont branch should go the other way - apparently for two reasons: that the section in question goes slightly westwards towards Ashmont while the northern section of the route goes eastward; and to match the former service at the station. Who's right in this case? Animal lover 666 ( talk) 00:12, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
What is the Austrian equivalent of the British RAIB? We don't seem to have an article on it. Mjroots ( talk) 13:50, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
Hello, a discussion has been started here concerning the reliability of the Railscot website for use as a source. Please contribute if interested, thanks. Crowsus ( talk) 11:40, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
Bergen Line has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. -- Whiteguru ( talk) 07:14, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
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Railway surgery has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Eldomtom2 ( talk) 16:34, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
I am seeing claims in the Wiki page for Santa Fe 769 ( /info/en/?search=Talk:Santa_Fe_769) claims the engine will be restored to operation. But other than the one Facebook page linked, none of the sources seem to actually confirm this. Anyone else willing to give it a look to see if there is sufficient sources on the page, and the claims of the page are not claiming things that are not properly cited?
Xboxtravis7992 ( talk) 17:00, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
I've raised a question about how we're modeling the former lines/services of the Reading Company at Module talk:Adjacent stations/Reading Company#Main line and related issues; this may inform how we handle "fallen flags" elsewhere. Mackensen (talk) 13:20, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
I have noticed what I believe is some bias on the Union Pacific Railroad (UP) page. The article has a pretty big section called Notable accidents and then a section called Environmental record. That negativity is not presented on the page of UP's biggest rival, BNSF Railway, which has a small Safety section that is mostly positive. The east coast railroad Norfolk Southern Railway has nothing about accidents, and its Environmental record has positive and negative information. The other large east coast railroad, CSX Transportation, has nothing about the environment. It does have a simple list of accidents and incidents. I believe there should be some type of standard template that should be followed. This would help prevent people with biased opinions about certain railroads from editing articles to make a railroad look worse or better than it is. We do not want a railroad's competitor to edit articles on their rival to make it look bad. We do not want someone with a grudge to use Wikipedia to make a railroad look bad. In addition to standard sections for a railroad, safety statistics from the Federal Railroad Administration should be used, and updated each year. Right now, the UP page makes that railroad look like it is a danger to society, while BNSF appears to be a much safer railroad. If everyone had FRA statistics on their page, it would be much more fair. (The FRA statistics will show a better safety record for BNSF, but UP is not a total disaster.) There needs to be a standard for Class I railroads, regional railroads, small railroads, and defunct railroads. TwoScars ( talk) 21:20, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
no problems reportedjust before the ref. There are several places these events might be described besides those lists - an article about the railway involved, an article about the location, an article about the class of loco. It gets WP:COATRACKy at times. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 22:33, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
I have started an RfC at Wikipedia talk:Notability#Notability of train stations that is of interest to this WikiProject. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 00:24, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Russian locomotive class IS which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. (Manually adding this notification as the bot doesn't seem to have picked it up.) Tevildo ( talk) 16:05, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Nyc5475 is running around and making edits to various pages to add unsourced claims (either coming from forums like RYPN) or insert meme-language like "They should restore it and run it on the mainline) on various Wikipedia pages. I have attempted to report the user, but its not getting the attention it needs yet and they are continuing to go around unchecked. We need to keep an eye out to stop this vandalism. Some examples include the following revisions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Duluth_%26_Northeastern_28&oldid=1096976860 https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wasatch_Railroad_Contractors&oldid=1096976786 https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=LB%26SCR_E2_class&oldid=1036499674 https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Timken_1111&oldid=1055637805 Xboxtravis7992 ( talk) 22:58, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
I have started this draft with some content copied from various articles about major subway systems. I am asking for some assistance to broaden the coverage of the article.
So far it only discusses the London, New York, and Paris systems and also only in terms of accessibitity for mobility impaired users. There is nothing about access features for blind or deaf passengers. Thanks Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 07:38, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
Don't know why this project wasn't informed of this. At the WP:NOTABILITY talk page there's a RfC discussion of the notability of rail stations - Notability of train stations . Oakshade ( talk) 05:41, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
I have left a message regarding a cleanup tag at Talk:Northern Trains#Cleanup tag for any interested editors. Long story short, the service tables on that page are a big mess and many routes violate WP:NOTTIMETABLE. Jalen Folf (talk) 07:36, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
I've just listed Category:1500 V DC multiple units and Category:1500 V DC multiple units of Japan for discussion at WP:CfD. If you would like to add comments, the discussion entry is listed here. Thank you. XtraJovial ( talk • contribs) 18:42, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
I have created my first majorish article and would like some reviews on it. Draft: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad. Feel free to edit it if you would like! I've done my best to add the sources that I could find. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farmboybello ( talk • contribs) 02:36, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Per [5] and [6], three Belarusian Railway locomotives, which were operating with Russian forces in northern Ukraine, have been seized by Ukrainian authorities. The second linked article has pictures - can anyone identify the type? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:53, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
I'm new to Wikipedia and after contributing to the article Cologne Stadtbahn a lot by translating from de:Stadtbahn_Köln, adding (mostly German) sources and writing some parts myself, I'd like someone to review the article, suggest further changes/additions to the content and/or have a look at the citations (and if there are enough remove "more citations needed" template?). Thanks in advance -- Jan Lukas 22 ( talk) 12:36, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Looking at the article for Soo Line 1003 and the end of the article includes a list of "other preserved 2-8-2's" which seems to have been presented arbitrarily and not with any real relation to the article. If we were to include all "Preserved 2-8-2's" we'd have to include over a dozen Rio Grande K-Classes, the EBT 2-8-2's, etc... and listing off all the Mikados would clutter the article further. Personally, I believe the 2-8-2 segment is generic trivia with very little relevance to the article, and should be removed but I want to see what other people's thoughts are before its removed. Xboxtravis7992 ( talk) 16:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
So what now? Difficultly north ( talk) The artist formerly known as Simply south 20:34, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
It would be ridiculous to consider deleting an article on Yoda or Mace Windu, for instance. If someone were, as part of their reasoning for keep, to say that every other main character in Star Wars has an article, this may well be a valid point. In this manner, using an "Other Stuff Exists" angle provides for consistency.Jumpytoo Talk 02:34, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Visiting Denmark, I went to put a photo on a station article and found the name had capped "Station". Unlike in other countries I'm familiar with, this seems to be what's done there; see Category:Copenhagen Metro stations. But the move logs I looked at suggests these were undiscussed moves from originally lowercase "station". Is there any naming convention about this anywhere? Seems to me that like in US and UK and other places, "station" is not usually part of the proper name. Dicklyon ( talk) 19:36, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Hello,
Not a member of the project, but as a request... Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Railway surgery/1 has been open for about 3 months. Currently, one editor says the sources are being misrepresented in the article, while another editor (the original GA nominator) says they aren't. It seems like a volunteer with some expertise in the field needs to examine the sources to "tiebreak", since it isn't clear random non-train editors can easily tell the extent of the validity of the complaints brought up in the GAR. SnowFire ( talk) 13:17, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
I added a new photo to Western Pacific Railroad Museum article today, but reading over the article a lot of the language isn't really sourced or verified (such as the claim the museum was one of the first rent a locomotive programs in the nation with no source). Furthermore a lot of language feels like its ripped straight out of a travel brochure. Can somebody help clean this article up with better sources and remove any language that seems less formal and more like a travel pitch? Xboxtravis7992 ( talk) 17:55, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Hello WikiProject Trains! Earlier today I had trouble finding out what a General Passenger Agent was in the context of 19th-c. US railroads. I found plenty of uses of the term, but almost no explanations of it, including on Wikipedia. The only thing I found was this book which says "PRR's general passenger agent was the traffic official chiefly responsible for coordinating day-to-day operations across the railroad." I wouldn't mind putting together a quick stub, but I can't find sources for it. Can anyone suggest sources? Also, should this be a stub, or is there some other article about railroad jobs or titles or organization, where a sentence or so could be added? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Levivich 20:49, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
I did a search of the project archives and couldn't find anything, so apologies if this has already been discussed. A number of railway articles have lists of specific railways that are examples of the article subject. The header title used for these lists is often "Installations". A few examples: Iberian gauge, Standard-gauge railway and 5 ft 3 in gauge railways. The term "installations" strikes me as odd - it sounds like an art gallery; you don't install a railway. I don't see this regularly in books or other sources. Some articles avoid this term, for example Metre-gauge railway uses "Examples of metre-gauge" which seems better. I could also see these sections being titled "Railways". Does anyone know the reason for the somewhat widespread use of "Installations", and should it be changed? 157.131.122.202 ( talk) 00:43, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Taichung line#Requested move 11 September 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky ( talk) 04:37, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
I just started work on heavily updating the Heber Valley Railroad page and would appreciate feedback and a second eye to check for spelling and formatting errors. A few issues of note I would appreciate a second opinion on:
Xboxtravis7992 ( talk) 17:18, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Is there some rationale for the recent deletion nominations of British railway junctions? I see 19 AfDs in the project alerts, all nominated on 21 Sept, and a further prod by the same nominator on 22 Sept. Espresso Addict ( talk) 01:31, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
A GA reassessment has been started at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/North Carolina Transportation Museum/1 for the North Carolina Transportation Museum due to a number of issues. At least some of them would probably be able to be solved by someone who has the book "Coleman, Alan (2018). North Carolina Transportation Museum. Charleston, South Carolina. ISBN 1-4671-2775-2. OCLC 1007842710". Gusfriend ( talk) 09:02, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Toyohashi Railroad#Requested move 5 October 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Elli ( talk | contribs) 17:03, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Twin Cities Zephyr#Requested move 16 October 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Thank you. Sammy D III ( talk) 20:25, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
In continental Europe, switches/points are increasingly preassembled by the manufacturers. They are then transported to the place of installation on special rail cars. We recently got good pictures of such a rail car, which was the starting point (no pun intended) for a discussion in the German wikipedia about the appropriate name for a commons category. Switch transport wagons seemed to be the best fit. Do you agree, or is there an even better term? (And: Do such cars exist outside Europe and Turkey as well?) GeorgR (de) ( talk) 10:13, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
My complete ignorance of locomotives wasn't enough to prevent me from touching up (?) Draft:Virginia and Truckee 12 Genoa and transforming it into Virginia and Truckee 12 Genoa. Somebody who knows something about the matter really ought to take a look at this new article, undo any gaffes I perpetrated, and perhaps make little improvements here and there. -- Hoary ( talk) 23:26, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
A long while back I drafted a couple of articles on early 20th-century narrow-gauge lines in Turkey. I'm not sure why I never moved them to mainspace, but I just came across them and thought it really made no sense to keep them sitting in limbo. I would appreciate any improvements folks can make to Ilıca–Palamutluk railway and Palamutluk–Balya–Mancılık railway. Online sources for these two small lines are quite limited. Rupert Clayton ( talk) 17:27, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
I am proposing to split List of locomotives into two articles. See the article's talk page for more information. Eldomtom2 ( talk) 15:49, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
I got a message request recently to see if I could start work on an article for the fleet of EBT Mikados and have started this Draft:East Broad Top Railroad Mikado Locomotives. I have found some good basic sources and have started to get working on filling in some of the history, but admittedly the East Broad Top is not my specialty or something I am really well versed in. So I would appreciate if anybody else would like to help contribute and flesh out the locomotive histories and specs before moving the article from draft towards publication. Xboxtravis7992 ( talk) 16:53, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
The importance parameters, while in theory a nice idea, in practice hold almost no meaning and add a massive backlog (on paper, anyways). I believe we should discontinue their use. We should identify a number of core articles (Like Train and Railway track) and just forget about importance otherwise. A number of other projects have already done so. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 19:09, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
Higher-speed rail has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Steelkamp ( talk) 07:21, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:United States Army Transportation Corps class S118#Requested move 26 November 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:06, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
A discussion has been started at WP:UKRAIL about what units to use for acceleration in a loco/unit infobox. Please contribute there if you have any strong feelings! Thanks. Mattdaviesfsic ( talk) 16:13, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
Friend Ed just told me that some of Electro-Motive in McCook has been razed. Soon to be warehouses. ( https://www.southwestregionalpublishing.com/2022/06/06/huge-project-in-mccook-means-jobs-jobs-jobssays-mayor/ ). Maybe a couple of buildings on the north side are left. I'll be checking, but nothing RS. I just thought somebody here might care. Sammy D III ( talk) 11:34, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
An editor has requested for 1992 United States railroad strike to be moved to 1992 United States railroad lockout. Since you had some involvement with 1992 United States railroad strike, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so). Eldomtom2 ( talk) 06:44, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
I have started up a up a wikiproject proposal for Transport in Australia for those who interested I suggest checking out Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Australian Transport NotOrrio ( talk) 05:18, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
I'm too close and could use outside eyes. Thank you. Sammy D III ( talk) 12:59, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
Stupid question, but when you count tracks at stations, do you count only the ones that have access to (i.e. platform) or all tracks that traverse through/by it? -- WashuOtaku ( talk) 16:58, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
When can photographs (not necessarily images) be used as RS? Sort of a follow-up to a Help desk discussion "Photographs as references" [8] (I'm Moon Joon there). If, where, and when can photographs be used as RS?
If a photograph is used and clearly identified in a RS is the photograph itself by extension RS? Would museum collections be good? If so, how can they be used?
A photo would ref that the object existed ("what"). If you had a landmark you would know "where". If you had some type of time-mark you would know "when". If you could use the logo you would have "who". (I don't see "how" or "why" from a photo alone).
Slippery slope to OR. Can you use livery (color is so easy to change)? Layout (2-8-2 or B-B)? Manufacturer (not obvious with steam locos)? Fuel? Modifications? How far can you go? What is commonly recognized?
Photos could easily help with equipment rosters. Maybe infrastructure? Actually, almost anything physical. Any actions seem tough to me, you might have to infer what is happening or why.
I was thinking only of photos of the real world, not maps, charts, or re-creations (like models). I would think an actual photo could show who owned what when and where. Maybe details. Maybe more.
I haven't seen photos used or discussed. Rather than going to Commons or some RS board I thought I would mention it here. This seems like a good field, there are countless good photos of trains. Thank you. Sammy D III ( talk) 00:12, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
Words can lie; words can be mistaken; everybody generates them and everybody knows that. Numbers and pictures also can lie or err, and often do, and many people generate them. Unfortunately, some people assume either numbers or pictures can't lie and can't be mistaken. Sad, but true. However, if the words, numbers, or pictures come from a reliable source, then that's what they are. The word, the number, the picture is not a source; rather they are evidence that may be supplied by a reliable source, or not. Jim.henderson ( talk) 05:46, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:GMB Class 71#Requested move 13 December 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. echidnaLives - talk - edits 03:11, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
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Hello WProject, please see Template_talk:S-line#Template-protected_edit_request_on_12_January_2022 for a discussion regarding changing the styling of that template. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 15:07, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
New article on the Maynaguri train accident. Needs expansion. Mjroots ( talk) 07:46, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Wikipedia:FOAMER and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 18#Wikipedia:FOAMER until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Certes ( talk) 13:35, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
An IP editor has systematically unlinked several redlinks in railway articles. I'm not sure which are notable enough to deserve a future article, but an interested editor may wish to restore some of the links. Certes ( talk) 16:53, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Can someone take a look at the map on the Santo Domingo Metro article please, it's being pushed down by the infobox but the expand button is appearing on top of the box, blocking some text and the map itself is hiding part of the following section. I can't immediately spot what is causing it myself. Thryduulf ( talk) 13:12, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello again, WP Trains folks! Last time I was here, I asked about 1,200 unused S-line templates, and you were quite helpful. Since then, editors have updated many more articles to use {{ Adjacent stations}}, and the S-line template population has been reduced even further.
This time, I am here to ask about 200 untranscluded route diagram templates, including some that have been created very recently but are not used in any articles.
You can see a near-complete list of the untranscluded (as of a few hours ago) RDTs on this page. That list excludes any templates modified in the last four months, so there are really more than 200. Here's a random sampling:
The templates depict train systems in many countries, at a level of detail that is exquisite for something that is not transcluded anywhere. There are even some brand new unused templates, created in January 2022, such as:
The level of effort that must go into creating these detailed templates makes me wonder why they are not transcluded in articles. Are they used in some other way? Who can enlighten me?
For context, there are only about 2,600 untranscluded templates that have not been edited since September 2021, so 200 RDTs is a significant fraction of those. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 00:58, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Twenty of these are unused MBTA line templates:
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With the exception of {{ MBTA Silver Line}}, these are all point-in-time historical templates. Probably suitable for a mass nomination; hard to see how they would be incorporated. Mackensen (talk) 12:24, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
I've turned up several cases of maps mistakenly removed from articles, where no-one noticed. In an ideal world, we can get the number of untranscluded RDTs down to where one showing up in such a report would help editors catch these issues. Mackensen (talk) 12:16, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Mjroots ( talk) 17:26, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Hey train editors! I've came across some Adjacent station modules that were created but then not converted. If anyone is looking for some clean up action here is the list:
Gonnym ( talk) 20:11, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi all, there's a stalled merger discussion, opened in December, at Talk:Fitzgerald Subdivision#Merger proposal that's in need of some more comments to establish consensus. Thanks. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 01:49, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
I'm interested in getting folks opinion on the use of succession templates for bus lines on train station articles in the Munich area. Puchheim station is representative, showing tables for Regional and Express bus lines operated by Münchner Verkehrsgesellschaft and Münchner Verkehrs- und Tarifverbund. For my part I think they aren't very useful to the reader and should be removed: bus stops generally aren't notable and we're not likely to ever create such articles, there aren't even articles about any of the individual bus routes here or on the German Wikipedia. I think this can be summed up with an entry in the infobox for connections, referenced to the MVV and/or MVG system maps. Mackensen (talk) 21:44, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
I've just seen this image at the top of the Rail freight transport article, and it's also used on quite a few other articles. The concept is a good and useful one - but it contains some noticeable errors, including
I've not looked in any more detail than that so there are likely other errors too. Thryduulf ( talk) 12:08, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
I can see that Panama is in the wrong color, as both the Panama Canal Railway and the Panama Metro use standard gauge. Only the mules on the Panama Canal locks still use broad gauge. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 01:41, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Do stations normally have climate data? I see a lot of airports and although the weather stations are located there the climate data only appears in the associated community. See Nobeyama Station. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 05:14, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
I have initiated a move discussion at Talk:Rail freight transport#Requested move 23 February 2022 that is of importance to this project. I'd appreciate if some editors here could weight in with their thoughts on the merits of the proposed move. Thanks. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 20:20, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
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If you have an opinion, please share. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 10:49, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
I just reverted two edits by an IP at Module:Adjacent stations/Milwaukee Road. The edits looked good but "il" was not defined and many articles were showing "Lua error in Module:Adjacent_stations/Milwaukee_Road at line 38: Tried to read nil global il." Perhaps someone would be able to check what the IP was trying to do and repeat their edit with fixes if warranted. Meanwhile, that module is transcluded on 121 pages. Is there a recommended level of protection for such modules? Johnuniq ( talk) 23:03, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Shin-Ochanomizu Station#Requested move 5 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 01:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Siemens Modular Metro (Kaohsiung Metro)#Requested move 25 February 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 02:55, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
Hey, I had a couple of questions about naming conventions pages for railway stations after coming into contact with this area. I put them at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stations#Naming conventions questions. I'm unsure if one proposed guideline was ever accepted, and I have a suggestion for a page title now occupied by a historical proposal. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:31, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
I would appreciate input from additional editors at Talk:Mt. Royal / University of Baltimore / MICA station regarding the naming of several stations and what sources are reliable. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 00:06, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I recently created the draft Rail war in Belarus (2022). Any help from this project would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley ( talk) 19:16, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
I would like to suggest the creation of a page on CORA (Chicago Operating Rules Association).
These rules supplement GCOR and pertain to the greater Chicago area.
The METRA commuter trains operate under CORA, as an example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pcovello ( talk • contribs) 08:11, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
Kia ora - I've opened a discussion at Talk:Avondale Road railway station about whether that station actually existed - any input from subject-matter experts like yourselves would be appreciated! Turnagra ( talk) 06:15, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Odakyu 8000 series § Traction equipment bloat. XtraJovial ( talk) 15:15, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi all, this has been a question on my mind for a while. On our lists of railroads by state for the U.S., the lists include present railroads, historical railroads, and historical street railroads (interurbans, trolleys, and the like). I'm wondering if we should really keep these all in the same list. For example, at List of Connecticut railroads, which I've worked on a fair bit, there's 12 active railroad companies excluding heritage railroads, a bunch of defunct ones listed as well, and then a list of street railroads. I'm thinking the street railroads should be listed in a separate list article. They were regulated differently, mapped differently (take a look at the map on that article, it only lists "steam railroads") and in general street railroads were not succeeded by "steam railroads" but simply abandoned. I think it makes sense to list them in separate list articles to keep length reasonable and allow improvements to be made to each type of list separately.
In general there's a lot more documentation about what I'm referring to as "steam railroads" than about streetcar/trolley/interurban systems. There were and are exceptions, like interurbans or electric railroads which hauled or still do haul freight, but these can just be included on both articles. The way I'd like to see this be implemented, there would still be List of Connecticut railroads, but there would also be List of Connecticut street railroads or List of Connecticut streetcar operators or something along those lines for each state. Do other editors think this is reasonable? Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 14:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
I've been dealing with an IP recently adding all sorts of minor events to rail accident lists (for example, single or no fatality LC collisions; or events which happened on or near a train but had no strict relation to it - for example the recent subway shooting). I've discussed this previously with Mjroots, but he suggested taking this here. One problem with those lists is that there is no clear standard for inclusion. While there are obviously some things which don't go in, where to draw the line further up remains a bit fuzzy. I'm not sure that "only notable rail accidents which have their own article" is an appropriate standard, but beyond rejecting a few obvious WP:INDISCRIMINATE instances further down (for example, as I was noting, routine LC incidents), I can't think up of some other well accepted standard to keep these lists manageable. Suggestions would be a good idea. Cheers, RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 01:20, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Level crossing derailments can occur on infrequently used and poorly maintained track, and thus be unimportant. I think criteria should not get into such specifics. Either it has an article or could likely have an article supported by multiple sources beyond routine local coverage. MB 23:49, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
Is it desirable to keep intersection categories for just one article on a railway of a specific gauge in a specific country? WP:SMALLCAT makes an exception for "a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme", but it is not clear that these are useful here. E.g. Category:900 mm gauge railways has a lot of single-railway sub-cats by country. Please see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 April 20#Category:900 mm gauge railways in Iceland, where one of these has been nominated for merging. – Fayenatic London 11:19, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
I have been working on creating an article on the history of Wasatch Railroad Contractors, and am wondering if anyone can give a glance at the draft to help move it up to article status: /info/en/?search=Draft:Wasatch_Railroad_Contractors — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xboxtravis7992 ( talk • contribs) 00:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello members. I am writing this to initiate a discussion and to get your views & opinions on this subject matter. Lately, we are seeing a rise of higher speed (i.e. between 160-200 km/hr) commuter rail systems. There are 2 operational systems currently which I am aware of i.e the Line 18 of the Guangzhou Metro and the Guiyang railway loop line. The Delhi–Meerut Regional Rapid Transit System is under construction with multiple other similar systems planned across India. So my question is does these deserve a special article of their own or should this be a part of commuter rail or rapid transit article sections ? Regards, GoldenDragon2293Return ( talk) 04:58, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
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I am proposing to move the Hornby Railways article to "Hornby Hobbies". Past move requests have not generated much attention, so I'm notifying this wikiproject in case anyone here has opinions on the proposal. -- Eldomtom2 ( talk) 17:44, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Any reason why, in the infoboxes of Doha Metro stations, there's no table with links to the previous and next stations? We bave an article on every Green Line station (including their crossover stations with the other lines), as well as a few other Red Line stations; and the other stations have article titles in the NavBox. Animal lover 666 ( talk) 11:46, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
I believe that with any given line, the succession boxes should always run in the same direction for any given line. For example, if along most of the MBTA Red Line the left side is Alewife, this should certainly be maintained along the entire line, including both branches south of where they split. However, User:Pi.1415926535 is arguing that the Ashmont branch should go the other way - apparently for two reasons: that the section in question goes slightly westwards towards Ashmont while the northern section of the route goes eastward; and to match the former service at the station. Who's right in this case? Animal lover 666 ( talk) 00:12, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
What is the Austrian equivalent of the British RAIB? We don't seem to have an article on it. Mjroots ( talk) 13:50, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
Hello, a discussion has been started here concerning the reliability of the Railscot website for use as a source. Please contribute if interested, thanks. Crowsus ( talk) 11:40, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
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Railway surgery has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Eldomtom2 ( talk) 16:34, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
I am seeing claims in the Wiki page for Santa Fe 769 ( /info/en/?search=Talk:Santa_Fe_769) claims the engine will be restored to operation. But other than the one Facebook page linked, none of the sources seem to actually confirm this. Anyone else willing to give it a look to see if there is sufficient sources on the page, and the claims of the page are not claiming things that are not properly cited?
Xboxtravis7992 ( talk) 17:00, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
I've raised a question about how we're modeling the former lines/services of the Reading Company at Module talk:Adjacent stations/Reading Company#Main line and related issues; this may inform how we handle "fallen flags" elsewhere. Mackensen (talk) 13:20, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
I have noticed what I believe is some bias on the Union Pacific Railroad (UP) page. The article has a pretty big section called Notable accidents and then a section called Environmental record. That negativity is not presented on the page of UP's biggest rival, BNSF Railway, which has a small Safety section that is mostly positive. The east coast railroad Norfolk Southern Railway has nothing about accidents, and its Environmental record has positive and negative information. The other large east coast railroad, CSX Transportation, has nothing about the environment. It does have a simple list of accidents and incidents. I believe there should be some type of standard template that should be followed. This would help prevent people with biased opinions about certain railroads from editing articles to make a railroad look worse or better than it is. We do not want a railroad's competitor to edit articles on their rival to make it look bad. We do not want someone with a grudge to use Wikipedia to make a railroad look bad. In addition to standard sections for a railroad, safety statistics from the Federal Railroad Administration should be used, and updated each year. Right now, the UP page makes that railroad look like it is a danger to society, while BNSF appears to be a much safer railroad. If everyone had FRA statistics on their page, it would be much more fair. (The FRA statistics will show a better safety record for BNSF, but UP is not a total disaster.) There needs to be a standard for Class I railroads, regional railroads, small railroads, and defunct railroads. TwoScars ( talk) 21:20, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
no problems reportedjust before the ref. There are several places these events might be described besides those lists - an article about the railway involved, an article about the location, an article about the class of loco. It gets WP:COATRACKy at times. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 22:33, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
I have started an RfC at Wikipedia talk:Notability#Notability of train stations that is of interest to this WikiProject. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 00:24, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
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Nyc5475 is running around and making edits to various pages to add unsourced claims (either coming from forums like RYPN) or insert meme-language like "They should restore it and run it on the mainline) on various Wikipedia pages. I have attempted to report the user, but its not getting the attention it needs yet and they are continuing to go around unchecked. We need to keep an eye out to stop this vandalism. Some examples include the following revisions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Duluth_%26_Northeastern_28&oldid=1096976860 https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wasatch_Railroad_Contractors&oldid=1096976786 https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=LB%26SCR_E2_class&oldid=1036499674 https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Timken_1111&oldid=1055637805 Xboxtravis7992 ( talk) 22:58, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
I have started this draft with some content copied from various articles about major subway systems. I am asking for some assistance to broaden the coverage of the article.
So far it only discusses the London, New York, and Paris systems and also only in terms of accessibitity for mobility impaired users. There is nothing about access features for blind or deaf passengers. Thanks Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 07:38, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
Don't know why this project wasn't informed of this. At the WP:NOTABILITY talk page there's a RfC discussion of the notability of rail stations - Notability of train stations . Oakshade ( talk) 05:41, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
I have left a message regarding a cleanup tag at Talk:Northern Trains#Cleanup tag for any interested editors. Long story short, the service tables on that page are a big mess and many routes violate WP:NOTTIMETABLE. Jalen Folf (talk) 07:36, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
I've just listed Category:1500 V DC multiple units and Category:1500 V DC multiple units of Japan for discussion at WP:CfD. If you would like to add comments, the discussion entry is listed here. Thank you. XtraJovial ( talk • contribs) 18:42, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
I have created my first majorish article and would like some reviews on it. Draft: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad. Feel free to edit it if you would like! I've done my best to add the sources that I could find. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farmboybello ( talk • contribs) 02:36, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Per [5] and [6], three Belarusian Railway locomotives, which were operating with Russian forces in northern Ukraine, have been seized by Ukrainian authorities. The second linked article has pictures - can anyone identify the type? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:53, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
I'm new to Wikipedia and after contributing to the article Cologne Stadtbahn a lot by translating from de:Stadtbahn_Köln, adding (mostly German) sources and writing some parts myself, I'd like someone to review the article, suggest further changes/additions to the content and/or have a look at the citations (and if there are enough remove "more citations needed" template?). Thanks in advance -- Jan Lukas 22 ( talk) 12:36, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Looking at the article for Soo Line 1003 and the end of the article includes a list of "other preserved 2-8-2's" which seems to have been presented arbitrarily and not with any real relation to the article. If we were to include all "Preserved 2-8-2's" we'd have to include over a dozen Rio Grande K-Classes, the EBT 2-8-2's, etc... and listing off all the Mikados would clutter the article further. Personally, I believe the 2-8-2 segment is generic trivia with very little relevance to the article, and should be removed but I want to see what other people's thoughts are before its removed. Xboxtravis7992 ( talk) 16:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
So what now? Difficultly north ( talk) The artist formerly known as Simply south 20:34, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
It would be ridiculous to consider deleting an article on Yoda or Mace Windu, for instance. If someone were, as part of their reasoning for keep, to say that every other main character in Star Wars has an article, this may well be a valid point. In this manner, using an "Other Stuff Exists" angle provides for consistency.Jumpytoo Talk 02:34, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Visiting Denmark, I went to put a photo on a station article and found the name had capped "Station". Unlike in other countries I'm familiar with, this seems to be what's done there; see Category:Copenhagen Metro stations. But the move logs I looked at suggests these were undiscussed moves from originally lowercase "station". Is there any naming convention about this anywhere? Seems to me that like in US and UK and other places, "station" is not usually part of the proper name. Dicklyon ( talk) 19:36, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Hello,
Not a member of the project, but as a request... Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Railway surgery/1 has been open for about 3 months. Currently, one editor says the sources are being misrepresented in the article, while another editor (the original GA nominator) says they aren't. It seems like a volunteer with some expertise in the field needs to examine the sources to "tiebreak", since it isn't clear random non-train editors can easily tell the extent of the validity of the complaints brought up in the GAR. SnowFire ( talk) 13:17, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
I added a new photo to Western Pacific Railroad Museum article today, but reading over the article a lot of the language isn't really sourced or verified (such as the claim the museum was one of the first rent a locomotive programs in the nation with no source). Furthermore a lot of language feels like its ripped straight out of a travel brochure. Can somebody help clean this article up with better sources and remove any language that seems less formal and more like a travel pitch? Xboxtravis7992 ( talk) 17:55, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Hello WikiProject Trains! Earlier today I had trouble finding out what a General Passenger Agent was in the context of 19th-c. US railroads. I found plenty of uses of the term, but almost no explanations of it, including on Wikipedia. The only thing I found was this book which says "PRR's general passenger agent was the traffic official chiefly responsible for coordinating day-to-day operations across the railroad." I wouldn't mind putting together a quick stub, but I can't find sources for it. Can anyone suggest sources? Also, should this be a stub, or is there some other article about railroad jobs or titles or organization, where a sentence or so could be added? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Levivich 20:49, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
I did a search of the project archives and couldn't find anything, so apologies if this has already been discussed. A number of railway articles have lists of specific railways that are examples of the article subject. The header title used for these lists is often "Installations". A few examples: Iberian gauge, Standard-gauge railway and 5 ft 3 in gauge railways. The term "installations" strikes me as odd - it sounds like an art gallery; you don't install a railway. I don't see this regularly in books or other sources. Some articles avoid this term, for example Metre-gauge railway uses "Examples of metre-gauge" which seems better. I could also see these sections being titled "Railways". Does anyone know the reason for the somewhat widespread use of "Installations", and should it be changed? 157.131.122.202 ( talk) 00:43, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Taichung line#Requested move 11 September 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky ( talk) 04:37, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
I just started work on heavily updating the Heber Valley Railroad page and would appreciate feedback and a second eye to check for spelling and formatting errors. A few issues of note I would appreciate a second opinion on:
Xboxtravis7992 ( talk) 17:18, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Is there some rationale for the recent deletion nominations of British railway junctions? I see 19 AfDs in the project alerts, all nominated on 21 Sept, and a further prod by the same nominator on 22 Sept. Espresso Addict ( talk) 01:31, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
A GA reassessment has been started at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/North Carolina Transportation Museum/1 for the North Carolina Transportation Museum due to a number of issues. At least some of them would probably be able to be solved by someone who has the book "Coleman, Alan (2018). North Carolina Transportation Museum. Charleston, South Carolina. ISBN 1-4671-2775-2. OCLC 1007842710". Gusfriend ( talk) 09:02, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Toyohashi Railroad#Requested move 5 October 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Elli ( talk | contribs) 17:03, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Twin Cities Zephyr#Requested move 16 October 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Thank you. Sammy D III ( talk) 20:25, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
In continental Europe, switches/points are increasingly preassembled by the manufacturers. They are then transported to the place of installation on special rail cars. We recently got good pictures of such a rail car, which was the starting point (no pun intended) for a discussion in the German wikipedia about the appropriate name for a commons category. Switch transport wagons seemed to be the best fit. Do you agree, or is there an even better term? (And: Do such cars exist outside Europe and Turkey as well?) GeorgR (de) ( talk) 10:13, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
My complete ignorance of locomotives wasn't enough to prevent me from touching up (?) Draft:Virginia and Truckee 12 Genoa and transforming it into Virginia and Truckee 12 Genoa. Somebody who knows something about the matter really ought to take a look at this new article, undo any gaffes I perpetrated, and perhaps make little improvements here and there. -- Hoary ( talk) 23:26, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
A long while back I drafted a couple of articles on early 20th-century narrow-gauge lines in Turkey. I'm not sure why I never moved them to mainspace, but I just came across them and thought it really made no sense to keep them sitting in limbo. I would appreciate any improvements folks can make to Ilıca–Palamutluk railway and Palamutluk–Balya–Mancılık railway. Online sources for these two small lines are quite limited. Rupert Clayton ( talk) 17:27, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
I am proposing to split List of locomotives into two articles. See the article's talk page for more information. Eldomtom2 ( talk) 15:49, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
I got a message request recently to see if I could start work on an article for the fleet of EBT Mikados and have started this Draft:East Broad Top Railroad Mikado Locomotives. I have found some good basic sources and have started to get working on filling in some of the history, but admittedly the East Broad Top is not my specialty or something I am really well versed in. So I would appreciate if anybody else would like to help contribute and flesh out the locomotive histories and specs before moving the article from draft towards publication. Xboxtravis7992 ( talk) 16:53, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
The importance parameters, while in theory a nice idea, in practice hold almost no meaning and add a massive backlog (on paper, anyways). I believe we should discontinue their use. We should identify a number of core articles (Like Train and Railway track) and just forget about importance otherwise. A number of other projects have already done so. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 19:09, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
Higher-speed rail has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Steelkamp ( talk) 07:21, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:United States Army Transportation Corps class S118#Requested move 26 November 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:06, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
A discussion has been started at WP:UKRAIL about what units to use for acceleration in a loco/unit infobox. Please contribute there if you have any strong feelings! Thanks. Mattdaviesfsic ( talk) 16:13, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
Friend Ed just told me that some of Electro-Motive in McCook has been razed. Soon to be warehouses. ( https://www.southwestregionalpublishing.com/2022/06/06/huge-project-in-mccook-means-jobs-jobs-jobssays-mayor/ ). Maybe a couple of buildings on the north side are left. I'll be checking, but nothing RS. I just thought somebody here might care. Sammy D III ( talk) 11:34, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
An editor has requested for 1992 United States railroad strike to be moved to 1992 United States railroad lockout. Since you had some involvement with 1992 United States railroad strike, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so). Eldomtom2 ( talk) 06:44, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
I have started up a up a wikiproject proposal for Transport in Australia for those who interested I suggest checking out Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Australian Transport NotOrrio ( talk) 05:18, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
I'm too close and could use outside eyes. Thank you. Sammy D III ( talk) 12:59, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
Stupid question, but when you count tracks at stations, do you count only the ones that have access to (i.e. platform) or all tracks that traverse through/by it? -- WashuOtaku ( talk) 16:58, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
When can photographs (not necessarily images) be used as RS? Sort of a follow-up to a Help desk discussion "Photographs as references" [8] (I'm Moon Joon there). If, where, and when can photographs be used as RS?
If a photograph is used and clearly identified in a RS is the photograph itself by extension RS? Would museum collections be good? If so, how can they be used?
A photo would ref that the object existed ("what"). If you had a landmark you would know "where". If you had some type of time-mark you would know "when". If you could use the logo you would have "who". (I don't see "how" or "why" from a photo alone).
Slippery slope to OR. Can you use livery (color is so easy to change)? Layout (2-8-2 or B-B)? Manufacturer (not obvious with steam locos)? Fuel? Modifications? How far can you go? What is commonly recognized?
Photos could easily help with equipment rosters. Maybe infrastructure? Actually, almost anything physical. Any actions seem tough to me, you might have to infer what is happening or why.
I was thinking only of photos of the real world, not maps, charts, or re-creations (like models). I would think an actual photo could show who owned what when and where. Maybe details. Maybe more.
I haven't seen photos used or discussed. Rather than going to Commons or some RS board I thought I would mention it here. This seems like a good field, there are countless good photos of trains. Thank you. Sammy D III ( talk) 00:12, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
Words can lie; words can be mistaken; everybody generates them and everybody knows that. Numbers and pictures also can lie or err, and often do, and many people generate them. Unfortunately, some people assume either numbers or pictures can't lie and can't be mistaken. Sad, but true. However, if the words, numbers, or pictures come from a reliable source, then that's what they are. The word, the number, the picture is not a source; rather they are evidence that may be supplied by a reliable source, or not. Jim.henderson ( talk) 05:46, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:GMB Class 71#Requested move 13 December 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. echidnaLives - talk - edits 03:11, 28 December 2022 (UTC)