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Hello WikiProject Templates members. It seems to me that this edit on the {{ United States topic}} template should be reverted. It now displays a new Associated States section with links to the Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, and Palau, that will be red links in most cases. The issue is that there's not a way to exclude the new section. But also, since many other templates are based on this one, the new section, if any, should be excluded by default, I believe -- otherwise all those other templates will suddenly start displaying it, even if there is a way to exclude it. A better approach would be to leave the base template alone and add the new section, when desired, to any inheriting templates, using the "group5" functionality. I'd go ahead and undo that edit myself, but I thought I would be cautious instead of bold and post here instead. Thanks. (Pinging @ Wrestlingring: who made that change.) — Mudwater ( Talk) 23:19, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
"P.S." Another problem with the recent update is that it breaks the "group5" feature for any inheriting templates that are using it. Their group5 won't displayed, the way things are now. — Mudwater ( Talk) 23:28, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Does anyone have any comments regarding the formatting of {{ Demis Roussos}}? Please discuss at Template talk:Demis Roussos. -- wooden superman 13:17, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Would anyone like to comment at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 November 13#Template:Katy Perry songs and Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 November 13#Template:Taylor Swift songs? -- wooden superman 09:27, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
Specifically about adding hidden text to template Template:Infobox tennis biography. Adding to the document is no big deal, but Tennis Project is having a lot of trouble keeping editors from updating player rankings until the two major tennis organizations "officially" update their rankings website, which is usually on Monday mornings. To many player articles we have been adding something like <!-- NEVER UPDATE UNTIL THE WTA/ATP WEBSITE IS UPDATED (Usually on Mondays) -->. This usually helps. I wasn't sure how the template would handle the addition of adding this hidden text, and didn't want to screw things up. If you look at the template and label/data 22 can we simply change the data to "| data22 = {{{currentsinglesranking|}}}<!-- NEVER UPDATE UNTIL THE WTA/ATP WEBSITE IS UPDATED (Usually on Mondays) -->", so that it adds the hidden warning to every player bio? Or do we need to create a bot that would add that hidden text to every player infobox? Just trying to find some way to make it an "in your face" warning for editors, especially now that we are in the pro tennis off-season. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 04:37, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
Would anyone like to comment at Template talk:Phil Ochs#Tangential entries? Tangential entries I removed with this edit have been restored. -- wooden superman 10:05, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Fix misaligned columns in tables at List of Latter Day Saint practitioners of plural marriage. The tables use templates which use advanced syntax that I don't understand. Waddie96 ( talk) 20:09, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
There is a discussion at the Village Pump regarding potentially protecting all of the template space. Please join in the conversation here. Primefac ( talk) 18:52, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
After repeated discussions at WP:BIDIRECTIONAL and WP:PERFNAV, there has been no consensus to establish a policy to remove historical figures from navboxes. Woodensuperman (formerly known as User:RobSinden) is the main proponent of this proposed policy. Most recently this topic is at issue due to contentious editing at both {{ The Crucible}} ( John Proctor, Abigail Williams, Judge Thomas Danforth, Elizabeth Proctor, Reverend Samuel Parris, Reverend John Hale, Thomas Putnam, amd Giles Corey) and {{ Macbeth}} ( Macbeth, King of Scotland, Gruoch of Scotland, Duncan I of Scotland, Malcolm III of Scotland, Donald III of Scotland, Siward, Earl of Northumbria, amd King James VI and I). Should we remove historical figures from navboxes of multimedia franchises?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:40, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
"one-way navigation to historical figures should be provided by the articles". Basically, we should avoid any real-word articles in a navbox for a work of fiction (locations, broad topic subjects, etc). However, it may be appropriate to link a biographical work about a real-world subject in a navbox about that subject. For example, you wouldn't include a link to Brighton in a navbox about {{ Brighton Rock (novel)}}, but it might be appropriate to link Brighton Rock (novel) in a navbox about {{ Brighton}}. -- wooden superman 09:24, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
"There may be a case to include a few major historical figures in the "Related articles" section, but I would limit this to a few". However, any pertinent character should be well linked in the relevant articles anyway. -- wooden superman 10:00, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
"Navigation templates are a grouping of links used in multiple related articles to facilitate navigation between those articles in Wikipedia". This navigation between articles is not achieved when it is inappropriate to place the navbox on the articles in question. -- wooden superman 10:13, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
I am working on
Template:Ordination/sandbox to try to make it embeddable. The current sandbox code allows all of the template to be displayed correctly when embedded except for the abovestyle
and above
parts. It is supposed to display a colored title bar (depending on religion) with "Ordination history" in it, but now this does not display at all. Additionally, there seems to be an issue with calling info from Wikidata when embeeded, e.g. using the QID parameter does not call information from Wikidata. Any help with this would be very much appreciated.
Ergo Sum
00:11, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
I don't know why but {{ Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment}} somewhat transcluding white space, can someone fix it? -- Hddty. ( talk) 14:49, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I'd like to request some feedback on Template:New Taiwan dollar. Thanks. Szqecs ( talk) 13:38, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
On the mobile Wikipedia (en.m.wikipedia.org), Template:A-Z_multipage_list does not appear where it is supposed to, and pages that use it appear broken.
Example: /info/en/?search=List_of_names_of_European_cities_in_different_languages vs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_names_of_European_cities_in_different_languages
I wouldn't even know where to begin to try to fix that, but I thought I should point it out.
- Dave314159 ( talk) 17:33, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
WT:JAPAN#Date formats. --
Marchjuly (
talk)
05:26, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Feel free to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Television#Navboxes_in_episode_lists.--- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:36, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
I am proposing a change to {{ S-ttl}}, which is highly transcluded. Comments are welcome at Template talk:S-ttl#Add series ordinal. Ergo Sum 01:51, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion going-on to build a clear consensus regarding sports-people navboxes at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2018_March_12#Template:Argentina_squad_2011_Copa_América. Please participate. Störm (talk) 16:29, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
Any opinions welcome at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 March 8#Template:Satellite Award for Best Cast – Motion Picture. -- wooden superman 16:55, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
A concordance is a side by side view of a passage of text with the translation appearing adjacent, along with direct word for word relations. There are two basic ideas of how to produce one; a dual pane where translations are done line by line, corresponding horizontally to the other pane, and then some notation on a secondary row underneath each line, or, in side by side panes, text is in rows which correspond to the other pane horizontally, and each word on the left is in a cell to contain each word, and the idea here is to correlate the words in the left with the ones on the right in a direct way, and then color coding could be used to make correspondences from the left column, same row, to the right.
Extra feature: Interestingly, the idea of a single word on the left in a single cell is a nominal way of designing the concordance template, and presumes that correspondence will be either one-to-one or one-to-two words in the left to right direct translation. But then its possible that the one word to two words correspondence goes the other way around, and then knowning that level of translation would require expert editing. The interesing part is that applying the one word to one cell principle to the right hand text pane instead of the left, as an alternate mode perhaps, done by clicking some button on the table as with list sorting (would require some code skills), seems that it would be successful in delivering some meaningful information to the end reader, even though its possible that the correspondences are slightly different, in their finer points, orthographically, though that could be a part of the template's functionality and there could be editor usable syntax for handling that.
The programming for the template could just honor the correspondence principle between template tags and the produced tables, where then the color coding is of automatic apply and standard form, and then its the job of the template editor to just keep track of where the left rows cells words will do something of different word correspondence in the right. Just an idea. - Inowen ( talk) 07:46, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Propose the creation of a specific use "template:omission" for indicating key ideas which are omitted or overlooked from the article. For example, an article on Coca-Cola that might not mention that its a "soft drink", or that Pepsi is a direct competitor. - Inowen ( talk) 04:17, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Observe_MOS:FONTSIZE_in_infobox_templates regarding font size in infobox templates. Your input is appreciated. Primefac ( talk) 15:34, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Noticing a lot of articles that could use infoboxes. And then these would need coordinated editing and pruning from multiple fields of expertise. What are best practices for infobox development? How much do infoboxes help article development? - Inowen ( talk) 06:13, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
I thought we'd reached a consensus on this a while back, but if anyone would like to comment: Template talk:RuPaul's Drag Race#Unnecessary addition of information in the navbox. -- wooden superman 10:42, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
A psychometrics task force was recently created in Wikiproject psychology, but it apparently isn't possible to tag articles within this task force's scope unless Template:WikiProject Psychology is edited first. I've been asking around for someone who can determine the precise nature of the edit that needs to be made to this template, and I was instructed to ask at the templates wikiproject.
Discussion about the need for this template to be edited is here. Can anyone in this project determine exactly how the template would need to be edited so that it can include this tag? -- Captain Occam ( talk) 02:33, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
|TF_1_IMAGE = ???
|TF_1_ASSESSMENT_CAT = ???
|TF_1_MAIN_CAT = ???
These two templates have a safesubst at the end of their second line that leaves (or can leave??) an unclosed triple quote, which mucks with edit syntax highlighting. Not sure why/if this needs to be there at all. can anyone assist? Thanks, ~ Hydronium~Hydroxide~ (Talk)~ 12:26, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
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than <p>
. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
20:59, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
Summary: a template directed to another template causes data to be labeled according to the redirected destination target. This mislabeled data is then added to Wikidata.
Template:Event date and age is simply a redirect to the widely-used Template:Death date and age. The redirect was presumably created because both templates calculate the year-distance (labeled as age) between two dates with the starting death date being a more specific type of event date. (Thus, the set of death dates is a subset of event dates.)
Event date and age can be used to calculate other non-death event dates.
Template:Event date and age is used for this purpose in Template:Infobox shogi professional, which also uses Template:Death date and age (for age of person at death) in addition to Template:Event date and age (for age of person when becoming professional). Due to the redirect, Template:Infobox shogi professional ultimately calls Template:Death date and age twice and mislabels the date of becoming a professional as a death date.
Because of this, the Wikidata site has used the mislabeled the date of becoming professional as a death date apparently because it only looks at the final destination of redirected templates. Thus, Wikidata entries that read enwiki template info will be incorrect.
A simple fix would be to stop Template:Event date and age from redirecting to Template:Death date and age. However, this apparently might violate the Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#T3._Duplication_and_hardcoded_instances policy. So, if this fix is good, then the policy should be modified to allow such an exception. If not, then it seems that death dates should redirect to the superset event dates as it would then be correct (but less specific) labeling.
Fixing this issue does assume that enwiki wishes to correctly label data via templates and to have good integration between enwiki and Wikidata in terms of data transfer. And, it assumes that fixing the mislabeling on enwiki is preferable to ad hoc adjustments on the Wikidata end and/or forcing Wikidata to change their approach to gathering data from enwiki. And, incidentally, Wikidata may not be the only other entity gathering data from enwiki, the template labels can be machine-read by anything.
Other discussion on this topic is at the following:
– ishwar (speak) 21:45, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
{{Infobox shogi professional |pro_date = {{event date and age|2016|10|01|1992|9|22}}
To me, the templates that are in Category:Nizhny Novgorod Metro templates seem to be unnecessary and the content might better be integrated in the articles that are using these templates. But I'm not an expert in templates, so perhaps these templates are perfectly according to the rules while I am not aware of it. Can anyone advise on whether or not action is needed? Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:25, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
Regarding the footer navbox Template:Footer Commonwealth Champions Pole Vault Women, User:CaptainCanada and I have a disagreement in terms of the usage of this template. This has traditionally been used for navigating between article on Commonwealth Games champions in women's pole vault. CaptainCanada has added further links to the events themselves (an article set already covered by Template:CGPoleVault) as well as flag icons and links to national article. My opinion is that the template should remain focused on the champions specifically ( previous version). I believe the new version adds links which are not relevant to the subjects; I don't see the value in linking the article on 1998 champion Emma George of Australia to articles about the 2014 pole vault competition, or the article on Canada at the 2018 Commonwealth Games. I also believe the flags serve a negative decorative function in these templates, in which the visual focus should be on champions, not nations. Can anyone provide a third opinion? Thanks SFB 16:33, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
"Navigation templates are a grouping of links used in multiple related articles to facilitate navigation between those articles in Wikipedia"). And flags should never be used in navboxes. -- wooden superman 11:56, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
I'm not sure whether the template resides in Wikipedia or Commons, but I noticed the template for advising files from DFAT are released under a CC-BY licence has a spelling error in the second line of the template "coypright" (sic). I couldn't figure out how to link to the file, but it can be seen on File:Jim Middleton.jpg. Could a template editor correct it? -- Whats new? (talk) 07:40, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Further input requested at Template talk:RuPaul's Drag Race#Decision?, where there is a debate whether to order the contestants chronologically, alphabetically by first name, or alphabetically by surname/mononym. -- wooden superman 14:01, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
I came across Template:Encantadia while checking on some images being used in User:Azuxingmi/Encantadia (2016 TV series) and was wondering if its acceptable to embedded categories into templates so that whichever page the nav template is added to will also have to category added to it as well. This might create a conflict with WP:USERNOCAT or WP:DRAFTNOCAT when the template is added to pages outside the article namespace. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 04:26, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
it is recommended that articles not be placed in ordinary content categories using templates. — JJMC89 ( T· C) 05:45, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
There's a discussion at Template talk:Infobox that could use input from this project. It regards the categorization and naming of infoboxes. Primefac ( talk) 13:13, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
There seems to be an extra space between the flag and the state name for {{
flag|North Dakota}}. It produces
North Dakota (two spaces), while for all other US states, something like {{
flag|Arkansas}} produces
Arkansas (1 space). I strongly suspect the issue lies somewhere in
Template:Country data North Dakota, but I can't seem to notice any difference compared to
Template:Country data Arkansas. The extra space throws off the alphabetization whenever I try to copy a wikitable into Excel. Is anyone able to spot what's going on here? Thank you in advance for your help!
MarginalCost (
talk)
04:03, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
|size=
in
Template:Country data North Dakota is 23x16px. I see possibly relevant discussions at
Template talk:Flag#Fix Swiss and farther down, at
Template talk:Flag#North Dakota.I've got a few questions, if anybody knows the answers.
Will media queries written into external css of a template conflict with the css of the page the template is transcluded to?
Would an external style sheet be able to have parameters from the template written into it? Or indeed have Lua functions invoked there?
Like:
element#example { background-color:{{{bgcolor|#FFFF}} }
Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, Cesdeva (talk) 18:15, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
For the first time in a while, I'm finding myself absolutely at a loss for why I'm seeing what I'm seeing in a template. I've been working on the merger between {{ Infobox country}} and {{ Infobox former country}}, and while I have all of the content sorted in the sandbox, the formatting is really odd (see the testcases). Somehow I'm getting all these extra line breaks in there, and aside from having some "child" infoboxes I can't see what's causing it (but the child infobox shouldn't be adding a line anyway). Any assistance or advice would be appreciated. Primefac ( talk) 14:46, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
mergedbottomrow
when it shouldn't have. I've tweaked it and it appears to be working; just need to find all the other accidental uses of that param...
Primefac (
talk)
17:42, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
I think that white space is being preserved because the multirow template is embedded within the if statement. Normally, leading and trailing white space is stripped, but not in this case. Here are examples to show white space being preserved:
Blah{{#if:1|{{green|true}}|{{red|false}}}}
→ Blahtrue
Blah{{#if:1|{{green| true}}|{{red| false}}}}
→ Blah true
I see no space between "Blah" and "true" in the first one a space in the second one. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 21:09, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
{{
Infobox college coach}} isn't currently compatible with use as a module of {{
Infobox person}}. I'm not a template editor, so I can't amend it. Would someone be able to take a look at it? Thank you. —
Sasuke Sarutobi (
push to talk)
19:18, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
|embed=yes
parameter. Crisis averted. —
Sasuke Sarutobi (
push to talk)
19:50, 8 July 2018 (UTC)Hi. I was experimenting with embedding a track listing template into a wikitable (in this case, recording session data for Elvis Presley). This is what I came up with:
Date | Type | Studio | Location | |||||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
July 18, 1953 | Demo Session | Sun Studio | Memphis, Tennessee | |||||||||||||||
| ||||||||||||||||||
Personnel: Elvis Presley (vocals, guitar) |
Here is the problem: I tried this out in the Wikipedia sandbox using Mozilla Foxfire, Internet Explorer, and Chrome. With the first two everything looks fine, as the track list template spreads across the page. With Chrome, however, the track list template is crunched onto (roughly) the left side of the page. Is there anyway to make it display correctly with Chrome? Jimknut ( talk) 20:02, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
There is a discussion regarding (blank) infobox usage at the Village Pump. Please feel free to join in the discussion here. Primefac ( talk) 16:10, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Please someone coding expert could answer here MediaWiki_talk:Movepage-moved#Link_to_the_talk if my proposal is doable or not. Thanks-- Pierpao ( talk) 11:06, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Is that possible for default on {{ Pie chart}} be set so that it started on top and read clockwise. Currently (start from right and read counterclockwise) it's a little bit hard to see. -- Hddty. ( talk) 13:47, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Any comments gratefully received at Template talk:Time Team#This navbox and WP:PERFNAV -- wooden superman 12:38, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Template:Britannica gives instructions for adding external links to articles on www.britannica.com using the template. However, a large number (though not all) of the articles require a subscription to read, and so are not acceptable as external links per
WP:ELNO point #6 and
WP:ELREG. If there's no objection, I'll add that information to the template's documentation to discourage further linking to the paywalled articles. I assume there's no problem with linking to those articles that are not paywalled. Is there anything else that should be done? --
IamNotU (
talk)
19:51, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
I am proposing a significant edit at Template talk:Infobox U.S. federal court#Major simplification of template and, among other things, would like to add alt text parameters. I have added them to the template sandbox, but would like to make sure I have done it correctly. Could someone check to make sure I implemented the alt text parameter correctly? Ergo Sum 21:17, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Template like {{ *mp}} should be retained and tagged as historical because it left an old revision like this and then a bot would prevent editors from transcluding this "historical templates". Is that possible? Hddty. ( talk) 13:50, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
The template {{ lm}} was recently changed without explanation from a template linking to the mediawiki namespace to one linking to the module namespace, breaking any uses of it. I tried raising this with the editor that made the change, BrandonXLF, but they have given no reason for the change, and say that any uses should be 'fixed' by using a different template. See the history of the template and User talk:BrandonXLF#Template:Lm for the discussion.-- JohnBlackburne words deeds 22:56, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
JohnBlackburne, I think we should switch {{ lm}} for use with modules as 1) More people want to link to modules then MediaWiki pages 2) {{ lmw}} exist for MediaWiki pages 3) MediaWiki is two words where as module is only one word 4) Most pages that use {{ lm}} as if it's suppose to link to the module namespace. – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 00:05, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
I think the above templates (and the whole template family) should be renamed for clarity. For example, {{
la}} and {{
lab}} should be renamed to {{
Link article}}{{
Article links}} and {{
Link article brief}}{{
Article links brief}}. Of course, the existing templates would be kept as redirects, but it would avoid this confusion as to what templates actually do what.
Primefac (
talk)
03:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Regarding DYK in the template. Discussion can be found here. Ergo Sum 23:27, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
It is 3 days now since I submitted my (fairly simple) edit request, but I have had no response. Could someone take a look at it please? -- NSH001 ( talk) 07:54, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
What caused the hidden text message of "<!-- Important, do not remove this line before article has been created. -->" to appear after {{ AFC submission}} on e.g. User:Flickyard/sandbox and User:BlackLotus/ICEY (Video Game)?
I asked the same question at WT:AFC#"Important, do not ..." but did not get a response. Not if the text originates from a template, but I figured someone here might know or be able to figure it out. Warmest regards, — Godsy ( TALK CONT) 08:48, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
I don't have time to troubleshoot this one for a few days, so if anyone wants to take a look, the #if logic is not quite right. The template is showing this in certain cases:
Outline of Republic of the Congo'Outline of the Republic of the Congo'
(both linked) instead of showing a single link.
Here's how it looks substed, using the current version:
![]() | This subject is featured in the Outline of Republic of the Congo' Outline of the Republic of the Congo', which is incomplete and needs further development. That page, along with the other outlines on Wikipedia, is part of Wikipedia's Outline of Knowledge, which also serves as the table of contents or site map of Wikipedia. |
Looking for some people to chime in with feedback on converting {{ Chembox}} to use {{ Infobox}} as a base. I've done about 75% of the initial work. Tons of styling needs to be fixed and I need to generate a ton of testcases, but hoping there might be some folks willing to provide feedback? Anybody interested? Template_talk:Chembox#Convert_to_Infobox_(for_realz_this_time). -- Zackmann ( Talk to me/ What I been doing) 05:46, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Is there a naming conventions guideline for template and module names and template parameter names? Couldn't find one when looking. -- Gonnym ( talk) 18:10, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Neither was I, really, just thinking about previous discussions that have been held at various templates where strong-arm tactics were used to change the style (or otherwise beat it into one set standard). Primefac ( talk) 20:25, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
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Hello WikiProject Templates members. It seems to me that this edit on the {{ United States topic}} template should be reverted. It now displays a new Associated States section with links to the Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, and Palau, that will be red links in most cases. The issue is that there's not a way to exclude the new section. But also, since many other templates are based on this one, the new section, if any, should be excluded by default, I believe -- otherwise all those other templates will suddenly start displaying it, even if there is a way to exclude it. A better approach would be to leave the base template alone and add the new section, when desired, to any inheriting templates, using the "group5" functionality. I'd go ahead and undo that edit myself, but I thought I would be cautious instead of bold and post here instead. Thanks. (Pinging @ Wrestlingring: who made that change.) — Mudwater ( Talk) 23:19, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
"P.S." Another problem with the recent update is that it breaks the "group5" feature for any inheriting templates that are using it. Their group5 won't displayed, the way things are now. — Mudwater ( Talk) 23:28, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Does anyone have any comments regarding the formatting of {{ Demis Roussos}}? Please discuss at Template talk:Demis Roussos. -- wooden superman 13:17, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Would anyone like to comment at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 November 13#Template:Katy Perry songs and Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 November 13#Template:Taylor Swift songs? -- wooden superman 09:27, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
Specifically about adding hidden text to template Template:Infobox tennis biography. Adding to the document is no big deal, but Tennis Project is having a lot of trouble keeping editors from updating player rankings until the two major tennis organizations "officially" update their rankings website, which is usually on Monday mornings. To many player articles we have been adding something like <!-- NEVER UPDATE UNTIL THE WTA/ATP WEBSITE IS UPDATED (Usually on Mondays) -->. This usually helps. I wasn't sure how the template would handle the addition of adding this hidden text, and didn't want to screw things up. If you look at the template and label/data 22 can we simply change the data to "| data22 = {{{currentsinglesranking|}}}<!-- NEVER UPDATE UNTIL THE WTA/ATP WEBSITE IS UPDATED (Usually on Mondays) -->", so that it adds the hidden warning to every player bio? Or do we need to create a bot that would add that hidden text to every player infobox? Just trying to find some way to make it an "in your face" warning for editors, especially now that we are in the pro tennis off-season. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 04:37, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
Would anyone like to comment at Template talk:Phil Ochs#Tangential entries? Tangential entries I removed with this edit have been restored. -- wooden superman 10:05, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Fix misaligned columns in tables at List of Latter Day Saint practitioners of plural marriage. The tables use templates which use advanced syntax that I don't understand. Waddie96 ( talk) 20:09, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
There is a discussion at the Village Pump regarding potentially protecting all of the template space. Please join in the conversation here. Primefac ( talk) 18:52, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
After repeated discussions at WP:BIDIRECTIONAL and WP:PERFNAV, there has been no consensus to establish a policy to remove historical figures from navboxes. Woodensuperman (formerly known as User:RobSinden) is the main proponent of this proposed policy. Most recently this topic is at issue due to contentious editing at both {{ The Crucible}} ( John Proctor, Abigail Williams, Judge Thomas Danforth, Elizabeth Proctor, Reverend Samuel Parris, Reverend John Hale, Thomas Putnam, amd Giles Corey) and {{ Macbeth}} ( Macbeth, King of Scotland, Gruoch of Scotland, Duncan I of Scotland, Malcolm III of Scotland, Donald III of Scotland, Siward, Earl of Northumbria, amd King James VI and I). Should we remove historical figures from navboxes of multimedia franchises?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:40, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
"one-way navigation to historical figures should be provided by the articles". Basically, we should avoid any real-word articles in a navbox for a work of fiction (locations, broad topic subjects, etc). However, it may be appropriate to link a biographical work about a real-world subject in a navbox about that subject. For example, you wouldn't include a link to Brighton in a navbox about {{ Brighton Rock (novel)}}, but it might be appropriate to link Brighton Rock (novel) in a navbox about {{ Brighton}}. -- wooden superman 09:24, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
"There may be a case to include a few major historical figures in the "Related articles" section, but I would limit this to a few". However, any pertinent character should be well linked in the relevant articles anyway. -- wooden superman 10:00, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
"Navigation templates are a grouping of links used in multiple related articles to facilitate navigation between those articles in Wikipedia". This navigation between articles is not achieved when it is inappropriate to place the navbox on the articles in question. -- wooden superman 10:13, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
I am working on
Template:Ordination/sandbox to try to make it embeddable. The current sandbox code allows all of the template to be displayed correctly when embedded except for the abovestyle
and above
parts. It is supposed to display a colored title bar (depending on religion) with "Ordination history" in it, but now this does not display at all. Additionally, there seems to be an issue with calling info from Wikidata when embeeded, e.g. using the QID parameter does not call information from Wikidata. Any help with this would be very much appreciated.
Ergo Sum
00:11, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
I don't know why but {{ Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment}} somewhat transcluding white space, can someone fix it? -- Hddty. ( talk) 14:49, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I'd like to request some feedback on Template:New Taiwan dollar. Thanks. Szqecs ( talk) 13:38, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
On the mobile Wikipedia (en.m.wikipedia.org), Template:A-Z_multipage_list does not appear where it is supposed to, and pages that use it appear broken.
Example: /info/en/?search=List_of_names_of_European_cities_in_different_languages vs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_names_of_European_cities_in_different_languages
I wouldn't even know where to begin to try to fix that, but I thought I should point it out.
- Dave314159 ( talk) 17:33, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
WT:JAPAN#Date formats. --
Marchjuly (
talk)
05:26, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Feel free to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Television#Navboxes_in_episode_lists.--- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:36, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
I am proposing a change to {{ S-ttl}}, which is highly transcluded. Comments are welcome at Template talk:S-ttl#Add series ordinal. Ergo Sum 01:51, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion going-on to build a clear consensus regarding sports-people navboxes at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2018_March_12#Template:Argentina_squad_2011_Copa_América. Please participate. Störm (talk) 16:29, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
Any opinions welcome at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 March 8#Template:Satellite Award for Best Cast – Motion Picture. -- wooden superman 16:55, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
A concordance is a side by side view of a passage of text with the translation appearing adjacent, along with direct word for word relations. There are two basic ideas of how to produce one; a dual pane where translations are done line by line, corresponding horizontally to the other pane, and then some notation on a secondary row underneath each line, or, in side by side panes, text is in rows which correspond to the other pane horizontally, and each word on the left is in a cell to contain each word, and the idea here is to correlate the words in the left with the ones on the right in a direct way, and then color coding could be used to make correspondences from the left column, same row, to the right.
Extra feature: Interestingly, the idea of a single word on the left in a single cell is a nominal way of designing the concordance template, and presumes that correspondence will be either one-to-one or one-to-two words in the left to right direct translation. But then its possible that the one word to two words correspondence goes the other way around, and then knowning that level of translation would require expert editing. The interesing part is that applying the one word to one cell principle to the right hand text pane instead of the left, as an alternate mode perhaps, done by clicking some button on the table as with list sorting (would require some code skills), seems that it would be successful in delivering some meaningful information to the end reader, even though its possible that the correspondences are slightly different, in their finer points, orthographically, though that could be a part of the template's functionality and there could be editor usable syntax for handling that.
The programming for the template could just honor the correspondence principle between template tags and the produced tables, where then the color coding is of automatic apply and standard form, and then its the job of the template editor to just keep track of where the left rows cells words will do something of different word correspondence in the right. Just an idea. - Inowen ( talk) 07:46, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Propose the creation of a specific use "template:omission" for indicating key ideas which are omitted or overlooked from the article. For example, an article on Coca-Cola that might not mention that its a "soft drink", or that Pepsi is a direct competitor. - Inowen ( talk) 04:17, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Observe_MOS:FONTSIZE_in_infobox_templates regarding font size in infobox templates. Your input is appreciated. Primefac ( talk) 15:34, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Noticing a lot of articles that could use infoboxes. And then these would need coordinated editing and pruning from multiple fields of expertise. What are best practices for infobox development? How much do infoboxes help article development? - Inowen ( talk) 06:13, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
I thought we'd reached a consensus on this a while back, but if anyone would like to comment: Template talk:RuPaul's Drag Race#Unnecessary addition of information in the navbox. -- wooden superman 10:42, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
A psychometrics task force was recently created in Wikiproject psychology, but it apparently isn't possible to tag articles within this task force's scope unless Template:WikiProject Psychology is edited first. I've been asking around for someone who can determine the precise nature of the edit that needs to be made to this template, and I was instructed to ask at the templates wikiproject.
Discussion about the need for this template to be edited is here. Can anyone in this project determine exactly how the template would need to be edited so that it can include this tag? -- Captain Occam ( talk) 02:33, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
|TF_1_IMAGE = ???
|TF_1_ASSESSMENT_CAT = ???
|TF_1_MAIN_CAT = ???
These two templates have a safesubst at the end of their second line that leaves (or can leave??) an unclosed triple quote, which mucks with edit syntax highlighting. Not sure why/if this needs to be there at all. can anyone assist? Thanks, ~ Hydronium~Hydroxide~ (Talk)~ 12:26, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
</p>
than <p>
. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
20:59, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
Summary: a template directed to another template causes data to be labeled according to the redirected destination target. This mislabeled data is then added to Wikidata.
Template:Event date and age is simply a redirect to the widely-used Template:Death date and age. The redirect was presumably created because both templates calculate the year-distance (labeled as age) between two dates with the starting death date being a more specific type of event date. (Thus, the set of death dates is a subset of event dates.)
Event date and age can be used to calculate other non-death event dates.
Template:Event date and age is used for this purpose in Template:Infobox shogi professional, which also uses Template:Death date and age (for age of person at death) in addition to Template:Event date and age (for age of person when becoming professional). Due to the redirect, Template:Infobox shogi professional ultimately calls Template:Death date and age twice and mislabels the date of becoming a professional as a death date.
Because of this, the Wikidata site has used the mislabeled the date of becoming professional as a death date apparently because it only looks at the final destination of redirected templates. Thus, Wikidata entries that read enwiki template info will be incorrect.
A simple fix would be to stop Template:Event date and age from redirecting to Template:Death date and age. However, this apparently might violate the Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#T3._Duplication_and_hardcoded_instances policy. So, if this fix is good, then the policy should be modified to allow such an exception. If not, then it seems that death dates should redirect to the superset event dates as it would then be correct (but less specific) labeling.
Fixing this issue does assume that enwiki wishes to correctly label data via templates and to have good integration between enwiki and Wikidata in terms of data transfer. And, it assumes that fixing the mislabeling on enwiki is preferable to ad hoc adjustments on the Wikidata end and/or forcing Wikidata to change their approach to gathering data from enwiki. And, incidentally, Wikidata may not be the only other entity gathering data from enwiki, the template labels can be machine-read by anything.
Other discussion on this topic is at the following:
– ishwar (speak) 21:45, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
{{Infobox shogi professional |pro_date = {{event date and age|2016|10|01|1992|9|22}}
To me, the templates that are in Category:Nizhny Novgorod Metro templates seem to be unnecessary and the content might better be integrated in the articles that are using these templates. But I'm not an expert in templates, so perhaps these templates are perfectly according to the rules while I am not aware of it. Can anyone advise on whether or not action is needed? Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:25, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
Regarding the footer navbox Template:Footer Commonwealth Champions Pole Vault Women, User:CaptainCanada and I have a disagreement in terms of the usage of this template. This has traditionally been used for navigating between article on Commonwealth Games champions in women's pole vault. CaptainCanada has added further links to the events themselves (an article set already covered by Template:CGPoleVault) as well as flag icons and links to national article. My opinion is that the template should remain focused on the champions specifically ( previous version). I believe the new version adds links which are not relevant to the subjects; I don't see the value in linking the article on 1998 champion Emma George of Australia to articles about the 2014 pole vault competition, or the article on Canada at the 2018 Commonwealth Games. I also believe the flags serve a negative decorative function in these templates, in which the visual focus should be on champions, not nations. Can anyone provide a third opinion? Thanks SFB 16:33, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
"Navigation templates are a grouping of links used in multiple related articles to facilitate navigation between those articles in Wikipedia"). And flags should never be used in navboxes. -- wooden superman 11:56, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
I'm not sure whether the template resides in Wikipedia or Commons, but I noticed the template for advising files from DFAT are released under a CC-BY licence has a spelling error in the second line of the template "coypright" (sic). I couldn't figure out how to link to the file, but it can be seen on File:Jim Middleton.jpg. Could a template editor correct it? -- Whats new? (talk) 07:40, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Further input requested at Template talk:RuPaul's Drag Race#Decision?, where there is a debate whether to order the contestants chronologically, alphabetically by first name, or alphabetically by surname/mononym. -- wooden superman 14:01, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
I came across Template:Encantadia while checking on some images being used in User:Azuxingmi/Encantadia (2016 TV series) and was wondering if its acceptable to embedded categories into templates so that whichever page the nav template is added to will also have to category added to it as well. This might create a conflict with WP:USERNOCAT or WP:DRAFTNOCAT when the template is added to pages outside the article namespace. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 04:26, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
it is recommended that articles not be placed in ordinary content categories using templates. — JJMC89 ( T· C) 05:45, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
There's a discussion at Template talk:Infobox that could use input from this project. It regards the categorization and naming of infoboxes. Primefac ( talk) 13:13, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
There seems to be an extra space between the flag and the state name for {{
flag|North Dakota}}. It produces
North Dakota (two spaces), while for all other US states, something like {{
flag|Arkansas}} produces
Arkansas (1 space). I strongly suspect the issue lies somewhere in
Template:Country data North Dakota, but I can't seem to notice any difference compared to
Template:Country data Arkansas. The extra space throws off the alphabetization whenever I try to copy a wikitable into Excel. Is anyone able to spot what's going on here? Thank you in advance for your help!
MarginalCost (
talk)
04:03, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
|size=
in
Template:Country data North Dakota is 23x16px. I see possibly relevant discussions at
Template talk:Flag#Fix Swiss and farther down, at
Template talk:Flag#North Dakota.I've got a few questions, if anybody knows the answers.
Will media queries written into external css of a template conflict with the css of the page the template is transcluded to?
Would an external style sheet be able to have parameters from the template written into it? Or indeed have Lua functions invoked there?
Like:
element#example { background-color:{{{bgcolor|#FFFF}} }
Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, Cesdeva (talk) 18:15, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
For the first time in a while, I'm finding myself absolutely at a loss for why I'm seeing what I'm seeing in a template. I've been working on the merger between {{ Infobox country}} and {{ Infobox former country}}, and while I have all of the content sorted in the sandbox, the formatting is really odd (see the testcases). Somehow I'm getting all these extra line breaks in there, and aside from having some "child" infoboxes I can't see what's causing it (but the child infobox shouldn't be adding a line anyway). Any assistance or advice would be appreciated. Primefac ( talk) 14:46, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
mergedbottomrow
when it shouldn't have. I've tweaked it and it appears to be working; just need to find all the other accidental uses of that param...
Primefac (
talk)
17:42, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
I think that white space is being preserved because the multirow template is embedded within the if statement. Normally, leading and trailing white space is stripped, but not in this case. Here are examples to show white space being preserved:
Blah{{#if:1|{{green|true}}|{{red|false}}}}
→ Blahtrue
Blah{{#if:1|{{green| true}}|{{red| false}}}}
→ Blah true
I see no space between "Blah" and "true" in the first one a space in the second one. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 21:09, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
{{
Infobox college coach}} isn't currently compatible with use as a module of {{
Infobox person}}. I'm not a template editor, so I can't amend it. Would someone be able to take a look at it? Thank you. —
Sasuke Sarutobi (
push to talk)
19:18, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
|embed=yes
parameter. Crisis averted. —
Sasuke Sarutobi (
push to talk)
19:50, 8 July 2018 (UTC)Hi. I was experimenting with embedding a track listing template into a wikitable (in this case, recording session data for Elvis Presley). This is what I came up with:
Date | Type | Studio | Location | |||||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
July 18, 1953 | Demo Session | Sun Studio | Memphis, Tennessee | |||||||||||||||
| ||||||||||||||||||
Personnel: Elvis Presley (vocals, guitar) |
Here is the problem: I tried this out in the Wikipedia sandbox using Mozilla Foxfire, Internet Explorer, and Chrome. With the first two everything looks fine, as the track list template spreads across the page. With Chrome, however, the track list template is crunched onto (roughly) the left side of the page. Is there anyway to make it display correctly with Chrome? Jimknut ( talk) 20:02, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
There is a discussion regarding (blank) infobox usage at the Village Pump. Please feel free to join in the discussion here. Primefac ( talk) 16:10, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Please someone coding expert could answer here MediaWiki_talk:Movepage-moved#Link_to_the_talk if my proposal is doable or not. Thanks-- Pierpao ( talk) 11:06, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Is that possible for default on {{ Pie chart}} be set so that it started on top and read clockwise. Currently (start from right and read counterclockwise) it's a little bit hard to see. -- Hddty. ( talk) 13:47, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Any comments gratefully received at Template talk:Time Team#This navbox and WP:PERFNAV -- wooden superman 12:38, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Template:Britannica gives instructions for adding external links to articles on www.britannica.com using the template. However, a large number (though not all) of the articles require a subscription to read, and so are not acceptable as external links per
WP:ELNO point #6 and
WP:ELREG. If there's no objection, I'll add that information to the template's documentation to discourage further linking to the paywalled articles. I assume there's no problem with linking to those articles that are not paywalled. Is there anything else that should be done? --
IamNotU (
talk)
19:51, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
I am proposing a significant edit at Template talk:Infobox U.S. federal court#Major simplification of template and, among other things, would like to add alt text parameters. I have added them to the template sandbox, but would like to make sure I have done it correctly. Could someone check to make sure I implemented the alt text parameter correctly? Ergo Sum 21:17, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Template like {{ *mp}} should be retained and tagged as historical because it left an old revision like this and then a bot would prevent editors from transcluding this "historical templates". Is that possible? Hddty. ( talk) 13:50, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
The template {{ lm}} was recently changed without explanation from a template linking to the mediawiki namespace to one linking to the module namespace, breaking any uses of it. I tried raising this with the editor that made the change, BrandonXLF, but they have given no reason for the change, and say that any uses should be 'fixed' by using a different template. See the history of the template and User talk:BrandonXLF#Template:Lm for the discussion.-- JohnBlackburne words deeds 22:56, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
JohnBlackburne, I think we should switch {{ lm}} for use with modules as 1) More people want to link to modules then MediaWiki pages 2) {{ lmw}} exist for MediaWiki pages 3) MediaWiki is two words where as module is only one word 4) Most pages that use {{ lm}} as if it's suppose to link to the module namespace. – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 00:05, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
I think the above templates (and the whole template family) should be renamed for clarity. For example, {{
la}} and {{
lab}} should be renamed to {{
Link article}}{{
Article links}} and {{
Link article brief}}{{
Article links brief}}. Of course, the existing templates would be kept as redirects, but it would avoid this confusion as to what templates actually do what.
Primefac (
talk)
03:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Regarding DYK in the template. Discussion can be found here. Ergo Sum 23:27, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
It is 3 days now since I submitted my (fairly simple) edit request, but I have had no response. Could someone take a look at it please? -- NSH001 ( talk) 07:54, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
What caused the hidden text message of "<!-- Important, do not remove this line before article has been created. -->" to appear after {{ AFC submission}} on e.g. User:Flickyard/sandbox and User:BlackLotus/ICEY (Video Game)?
I asked the same question at WT:AFC#"Important, do not ..." but did not get a response. Not if the text originates from a template, but I figured someone here might know or be able to figure it out. Warmest regards, — Godsy ( TALK CONT) 08:48, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
I don't have time to troubleshoot this one for a few days, so if anyone wants to take a look, the #if logic is not quite right. The template is showing this in certain cases:
Outline of Republic of the Congo'Outline of the Republic of the Congo'
(both linked) instead of showing a single link.
Here's how it looks substed, using the current version:
![]() | This subject is featured in the Outline of Republic of the Congo' Outline of the Republic of the Congo', which is incomplete and needs further development. That page, along with the other outlines on Wikipedia, is part of Wikipedia's Outline of Knowledge, which also serves as the table of contents or site map of Wikipedia. |
Looking for some people to chime in with feedback on converting {{ Chembox}} to use {{ Infobox}} as a base. I've done about 75% of the initial work. Tons of styling needs to be fixed and I need to generate a ton of testcases, but hoping there might be some folks willing to provide feedback? Anybody interested? Template_talk:Chembox#Convert_to_Infobox_(for_realz_this_time). -- Zackmann ( Talk to me/ What I been doing) 05:46, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Is there a naming conventions guideline for template and module names and template parameter names? Couldn't find one when looking. -- Gonnym ( talk) 18:10, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Neither was I, really, just thinking about previous discussions that have been held at various templates where strong-arm tactics were used to change the style (or otherwise beat it into one set standard). Primefac ( talk) 20:25, 25 November 2018 (UTC)