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What is the best way to determine first release date? It's easy for new singles because more or less we can observe it but in case of 2000s singles it's hard to say what was first, CD single or digital, Sweden or United Kingdom etc. I check entries in digital stores and also its archived versions and compare it to artist website and social media, label announcements in music video, trailers etc. but it's still hard especially if you are sure certain version of release not existed 10 years ago in iTunes but today it's added to Apple Music with quite random 2008 date when the real release of this version would be 2012. So if there are trailers with release date on 6 April 2009 you can find single in digital stores with release date on 5 and 6 April. If you compare different digital stores they has the same releases assigned to the same wrong release date or just both date looks weird if you look at archived announcements. There are also cases when release was announced and delayed. Eurohunter ( talk) 13:11, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi, it’s me, KevinML! I have a request to expand the article for the Aerosmith song Home Tonight. Here are some ideas that I have in mind for this:
1) Add a “Background” or “Release” section. For instance, when it was released as the album’s second single, the band hoped that this track would be hit single like their classic ballad Dream On. However, “Home Tonight ultimately stalled at No. 71 on the charts.
2) Add a “Live Performances” section. This comes from the same source as my previous example. In live performances, Steven Tyler would occasionally perform a small segment of “Home Tonight” as an in-concert intro for “Dream On.”
3) “Composition” section This song is in Ab Major with a moderate tempo of 79 bpm. The song builds up in speed during the instrumental outro.
If any (or all) of these requests are valid, then can I add them into the article? Please let me know. Hopefully this would bump potentially bump the article up from “Stub” status! KevinML ( talk) 23:00, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Here’s the source I used: https://ultimateclassicrock.com/aerosmith-rocks-track-by-track/
I still don’t know if this will be a “reliable” source, but if you can find any, please let me know because I’m trying to get this article to at least Start-class. Also I’m trying to find the song’s charting history on Billboard. KevinML ( talk) 00:28, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
I just expanded part the article for Home Tonight by adding two new sections. Can I remove the Stub template from the article with the amount of content that I just added? KevinML ( talk) 03:24, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
The sub categories for this container cat are i.e. Category:Songs composed in A major. Now forgive me, unlike classical music, we rarely know the key a song is composed in, so I would think most of the entries not just fail original research but are in fact, just an assumption that the song was recorded in the key it was written. It also assumes, quite wrongly, that all singers sing the song in the same key.
This problem is caused by trying to follow existing categories for instrumental music, most relevantly classical music i.e. Handel’s Flute sonata in G major (HWV 363b), which apparently Handel wrote in F and it was transcribed by an unknown hand (source:WP)
To be of any use the category name should be something more along the lines of Category:Song recordings in the key of A major.
There is a discussion of key signatures and BPM above which is partly relevant to this discussion.
So, keep, rename or delete? What is your opinion? -- Richhoncho ( talk) 13:39, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
In view of comments, I have now nominated the whole 'songs by key' tree Songs by key deletion proposal. -- Richhoncho ( talk) 11:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Richhoncho: and Richard3120 All you have to do is make the category Songs ORIGINALLY RECORDED in and make it compulsory that the song has to have a source stating that this is the case to avoid OR. It wasn't a massive issue. It was a useful category system for musicians. I suggest we recreate the category with ORIGINALLY RECORDED key criteria and that articles have to be sourced to include them. Who says categories shouldn't be used for non-classical works Ojorojo? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:14, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
We have these classes also with jazz songs and national anthems, for example:
If the song in class of Gb major jazz compositions, Have yourself a merry little Christmas, was really reworded in Gb major, how could we know, if it was composed in Gb major? And same with national anthems. In that category that I linked, there is my country's, Finland's national anthem, Maamme. I know that very many bands play it in Bb major, but do we know if it has been composed in Bb major also?-- Sentree ( talk) 13:47, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Links 2 3 4#Requested move 30 August 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 17:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
A discussion has erupted about whether YouTube view counts for every song should be included in their articles, regardless of whether this detail has attracted a mention in third-party sources or not. Rockmusicfanatic20 has decided to add 36 million views, 7 million views, 5 million views, and even 1 million views to articles as if they are noteworthy achievements. What is the community's take on this and is there time there should be a streaming version of WP:SINGLEVENDOR? Is there already some precedent in place to prevent such additions? I would appreciate any help. Regards.-- N Ø 17:40, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
I stumble upon articles about songs, including ones from the 20th century. I see some or many articles lacking image captions for lead images, especially in infoboxes. When an Article contains an inaccurate caption, I have to correct the inaccuracy... in every article I see. When an article omits a caption, a reader may assume that the image was used in worldwide release... and wouldn't bother researching and compare. Of course, newer singles have used universal cover arts, making captions unnecessary. How long must I continually correct captions in every article if the issue is not that serious? Additionally, if not alternatively, I can change images as I have often done, but then I can encounter opposition as I have had. George Ho ( talk) 22:58, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
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I don't recall many songs that sounded familiar, and that were modern that I can't find WP articles about. This is a 2021 song that has already been used in commercials for Pizza Hut, Toyota and BMW. Can anyone find enough about this song to stub out an article.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:14, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
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I don't know how to research certifications. Has Sheesh! achieved any certifications?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:52, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
Authenticity by personal testimony from People who were there or have knowledge of the origin, writer, and other details around the origin of a song. AGAcitizen ( talk) 22:37, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
I know that the certification criteria try to accurately reflect the times as use has shifted to digital download and then streaming. Is it now possible for a song to be certified without ever charting (Possibly not counting any streaming charts)? Are there notable songs that have achieved this status?- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:19, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Launched Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Learn to Fly (Surfaces and Elton John song) last week, no responses yet. QuietHere ( talk) 00:43, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
I wondering if anyone thinks that there's enough in JVKE#"Golden Hour" per WP:NSONG for it to be split off as the stand-alone article Golden Hour (song). -- Marchjuly ( talk) 06:07, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Hello!
It's been a question that's been going through my mind for quite some time. Should we use Pure Charts as a source in music articles? It's an essential question, hence this sole source is responsible of calling some songs singles (e.g. "
Free Woman", "
I'll Never Love Again"). Sometimes that information is verified by other sites (like in "
Love Again" or "
End Game"). However,
FrB.TG brought an argument in the
Talk:Bad Romance#Release history, saying that the site is not secure and not a high-quality source. What do you think?
infsai (
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I have opened discussions regarding the following songs at Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5: " All I Want for Christmas Is You", " Cielito Lindo", " Don't Cry for Me Argentina" and " Scarborough Fair (ballad)".- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:12, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Page watchers may be interested in Template talk:Music ratings#Merged. Izno ( talk) 02:54, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Now that " The Christmas Song" has cracked the List of Billboard Hot 100 top-ten singles in 2023, could someone with proper charting expertise add a prose chart history section for this song.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:32, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
I think the above could be deleted. It's an unsourced stub and while attempting to flesh it out more, I discovered that the song only charted on one US radio chart (whose ref I added to the page today) and nowhere else. There was prev a UK entry in the Charts section, but the OCC website only lists "Hanging By A Moment" and "Spin" as charting so I removed it. There's nothing by way of dedicated reviews for the song either. Only minimal mentions in reviews for its parent album Stanley Climbfall, which I've also been expanding by and by. I plan on creating a section in the album article to discuss details about some of the individual tracks, including "Spin" and "TMA", so the radio chart info would be mentioned there. Thoughts? -- Carlobunnie ( talk) 21:06, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
Why there s no wider category for love songs? Eurohunter ( talk) 17:11, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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My apologies for not sorting this list down; please feel free to remove those that aren't actually applicable to this WP. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:42, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Now that WP:NSONG has been changed to allow covers, we should start making a list of songs that should be split out. Off the top of my head:
Obviously, most of these are influenced by the blinders of my music tast, so feel free to add to this list! theleekycauldron ( talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:02, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
How about language adaptations as well? I was thinking splitting " Ahora Te Puedes Marchar" from " I Only Want to Be with You". The lyrics in the Spanish version have nothing to do with the original song as the article mentions. Also plan to split " Vivir Mi Vida" from " C'est la vie (Khaled song)". Erick ( talk) 16:57, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Articles should not be split into multiple articles just so each can advocate a different stance on the subject.Are any of the articles listed above long enough to warrant a complete spin-off? One of the first cover articles I remember seeing is Africa (Weezer cover), which is on the short side. The article for Toto's original is much longer, yet I don't believe spinning Weezer's version off was necessary at this point. I've seen children's books longer than that.
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Heads up on Sockpuppetry or forum shopping or other shenanigans going on with recent votes at Talk:Second Guessing (song). 10mmsocket ( talk) 17:44, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
There's an ongoing discussion re: how albums are categorized over at WikiProject Albums:
IMO, this discussion also applies to how songs by artists are categorized, so I would welcome members of this project to review and weigh in, too. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:09, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Hello! I'm working on cleaning this article up a little and noticed a section has a maintenance tag saying it needs copyediting according to WP:SONGCOVER. Could someone from this project assist me in doing so? ― Blaze Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:07, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
If anyone interested, this is an RfC about that debatable claim. Bluesatellite ( talk) 10:38, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
I would like to emphasize that the statement that claimed Michael Jackson as "the most awarded music artist" was already removed from Jackson's article recently.
The RfC is only focused on adding a new sentence to Jackson's article, in order to state that there are some sources/estimates that regard Jackson as the most awarded music artist in history. But it is not about labeling him directly as "the most awarded" (since, as I said, that has already been recently removed from the article). Salvabl ( talk) 12:07, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
So I've just come across the term "focus track" here and got curious. Turns out this is apparently a music industry term I've never seen before, but I've found more sources using it ( [7] [8] [9] [10]) as well as this glossary with a vague definition. EN Wikipedia has a handful of usages, though most of those don't appear to be the same thing, and there's no page for it here. Is anyone else here familiar with this term? Is that glossary accurate and it's really that simple, or is there more to it? I'm not sure whether this information affects Wikipedia at all, but it seems like it'd be worth knowing anyway. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 00:30, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
Hi, comments welcome at Talk:Set on You#Redir target. TIA Andrewa ( talk) 22:17, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
Topping the US Hot 100 or UK Singles chart is a big deal for foreign artists, so what kind of weight does a MENA chart achievement hold by comparison? If a song is the first by a singer from a particular country or of a particular genre to top said chart, is that a notable enough achievement to mention in the Commercial performance section? This is the Forbes ME article that sparked my question. Unsure if the Record Charts talk page would've been the better place to ask. -- Carlobunnie ( talk) 01:22, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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How to start article assessment for A-class? It's an article about the song " Fest i hela huset" by Swedish musician Basshunter. Eurohunter ( talk) 15:48, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
Launched two FfD queries the other day (both here) which haven't gotten any responses yet. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 15:32, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
There is a young account dedicated to ensuring that Cedric Smith (actor) gets sufficiently prominent credit in two articles, Carrickfergus (song) and Elemental (Loreena McKennitt album), for singing the lead in that song. I wonder whether anyone other than me thinks he is adequately mentioned elsewhere on the same pages. — Tamfang ( talk) 01:20, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Face 2 Face (Juice Wrld song)#Requested move 3 July 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 10:36, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
There is refname parameter for charts table but what about certifications table? Eurohunter ( talk) 22:18, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Is Sweden Songs chart by Billboard notable? Eurohunter ( talk) 20:19, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
There's an RfC going on at the Village Pump about cover songs that anyone interested should check out. ResPM ( T🔈 🎵C) 10:58, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
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I've been doing some cleanup on Category:Songs, and I have a few questions before proceeding on a few cleanup avenues. Do discographies belong in the subcats of Category:Songs by artist or other categories with song in the name? Do instrumentals/non-vocal works belong in categories with song in the name, as opposed to larger corresponding categories like compositions/recordings/works? Should Category:1970 songs be a subcat of Category:1970 compositions, along with corresponding moves for the hundreds of corresponding years/decades/centuries? I assume the answers are answers are no, no, and yes, but I'd like some input before proceeding. Thanks! Star Garnet ( talk) 18:35, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
Would someone from songs mind taking a look at Mr. Rager#Legacy since it kind of looks like an attempt to WP:COATRACK and article about a book into the "Legacy" section. That section appears to have been added here in May 2020 as part of a major expansion/reorganization of the article. While there does seem to be some kind of connection between the book's subject and the song, it seems a bit odd to devote the entire "Legacy" section to it. Perhaps some of this can be trimmed, particularly the photo of the book's author and some of the excessive detail about the book. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 21:51, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
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Hey everyone, I've been working the last month or so to improve the article for " Plastic Love" with the goal of getting to GA or FA in the future. I think I've scoured the internet thoroughly enough to find and use most reputable English-language sources, and I've been able to find a handful of Japanese ones with the help of Google Translate. That being said, I think the article could still use some work - specifically on its critical reception and on the actual recording process of the song itself. As it is right now, the article relies mostly on English-language sources, so I'm not sure it's at the best state it could be.
Ideally, this article would include contemporaneous media coverage in the 80s of the album (think album reviews, news pieces, etc.), modern articles which discuss the song from a critical or retrospective lens, or interviews with Takeuchi herself. However, I don't speak or read Japanese, so I'm kind of limited in how I can research here. If anyone who does have a knowledge of Japanese and has access to these sorts of resources is able, I would greatly appreciate your help in this research. Toa Nidhiki05 19:04, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Reportedly, AllAccess has discontinued operations on August 15. The site will now remain online for "an undetermined amount of time". The "Future releases" links seem to have been removed from the format menus. Have we discussed an alternative? This will probably have huge ramifications for our process of classifying singles.-- N Ø 06:01, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
How to archive links to songs at ASCAP and BMI? The final results are redirected to Disclaimer. I see some BMI archived versions exist at List of songs recorded by Westlife. Eurohunter ( talk) 13:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
An editor has requested that Silver Train (song) be moved to Silver Train, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. Aoeuidhtns ( talk) 14:49, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
A discussion Talk:Dark Eyes (Russian song)#Sindo Garay got stalled and can benefit from extra eyes looking at the issue. In short, some Cuban musician in his interview apparently claimed the authorship of very well-known Dark Eyes (Russian song). No independent claims (either confirming or denying it) exist, but Lute88 insists on the current version of the text that describes this WP:EXTRAORDINARY claim based on the interview with the claiming side alone (primary, non-independent source). If you are interested, please join the discussion using the link in the first sentence ( Talk:Dark Eyes (Russian song)#Sindo Garay). Викидим ( talk) 05:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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Since AJR's song "Inertia" got a music video yesterday, i'm thinking of making an article for it. Should I? ThatOneWheatleyGuy ( talk) 17:28, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
How is this type of vocal called? ( 0:51-1:14) Eurohunter ( talk) 18:36, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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I'm writing a draft on the song "Cannibal" by Tally Hall. I'm fairly proud of it, but I would like some feedback. Is anyone willing to do so? I'm relatively new, so any and all critique would be accepted. Thanks!
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There is a discussion here about whether or not to move The Other Girl (song) to The Other Girl. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 02:00, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
It's All Coming Back to Me Now has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster (chat!) 09:34, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Anyone knows how to describe the sound or structure from a song? Sometimes there are some unique sounds or structures in music and no one pay attention to it. There are a few general words from music theory, but for me, it's not enough. I mean, some people can feel some emotion to a particular sound. Basic tags such as "uplifting" etc. are not enough to find more examples of such music - sometimes there is something cool in one song, and you want to find it in other songs, but there is no way to describe it so further research is impossible. Eurohunter ( talk) 15:19, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
In case anyone is looking to clean up some lists:
The scope of the lists of top 10 singles in X year (France) articles are "list of singles that have peaked in the top 10 of the French Singles Chart" (i.e., the SNEP charts). However, List of top 10 singles in 2020 (France) and List of top 10 singles in 2021 (France) refer to Billboard's French digital sales charts, whereas List of top 10 singles in 2022 (France) and List of top 10 singles in 2023 (France) cite to tubesenfrance.com, which tracks iTunes/Amazon sales. voorts ( talk/ contributions) 04:04, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Nasheed#Requested move 11 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 01:06, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
Can someone advise me on the reliability of this publication? It seems okay on the face of it. Vanamonde93 ( talk) 21:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I want to make an article about an original soundtrack because I thought it's notable enough to have its own article but because it has a popular title I was kind of confused on how to add the disambiguator. Should I named it "Song Title (Singer-name song)" or "Song Title (Work-name original soundtrack)" or you have more correct one? Please help me decide, thank you in advance! Zhglobal ( talk) 04:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, is there a specific number of reviews for a song allowed on an article's critical reception section? I read through this article and couldn't find a clear statement on it. AskeeaeWiki ( talk) 20:20, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Zorra (song)#Requested move 4 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 14:25, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Facts (song)#Requested move 5 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 17:16, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
There is an RfC going on at Talk:Yes, And?#RfC about Infobox cover about the usage of single covers that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.-- N Ø 14:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
I've noticed that the " Kau Ilhamku" entry appears to have a strong promotional focus on the 2015 cover/remix version, giving less emphasis to the original Man Bai song. I'd like to propose edits that rebalance this focus and offer more historical background on the original. I've located some reliable secondary sources that discuss Man Bai's version in more detail. Would anyone be interested in collaborating on these edits? nMyghet ( talk) 17:39, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Noticed recently that it seems to be a common practice to include a song page in songs by artist categories for artists who have varyingly prominent covers of those songs. For example, Mötley Crüe songs currently includes " Helter Skelter", " Like a Virgin", and " Tonight", all of which include relatively brief mentions of Crüe's covers of those songs. " Jailhouse Rock" was also in there (as well as in ZZ Top songs and the Blues Brothers songs), but I removed it due to a complete lack of mention. To me, it doesn't seem proper to include these cats at all unless the cover is a very prominent (per DEFINING) part of the article, such as " Torn" being in Natalie Imbruglia songs, but I'd like to know how other editors feel before I start tearing things out further. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 18:31, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Is " Dirt off Your Shoulder" capitalized correctly? Should "Off" not be capitalized instead? I don't see any mention of "off" in either MOS:TITLECAPS or MOS:CAPS, and while I know "on" is typically lowercase in titles, I don't seem to remember the same rule applying to "off". QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 13:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Prepositions containing four letters or fewer (as, in, of, on, to, for, from, into, like, over, with, upon, etc.); but see above for instances where these words are not used as preposition" So surely "off" counts just as much as "on"? That list ends with "etc." Martinevans123 ( talk) 14:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2024 February 27#File:Poison Song Cover Image.jpeg about using video thumbnails in the cover= parameter of the infobox for songs from the musical animated series Hazbin Hotel. Thanks if you can find the time to weigh in with your opinion. Ss 112 14:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Zerox (song)#Requested move 1 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 09:09, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
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What is the best way to determine first release date? It's easy for new singles because more or less we can observe it but in case of 2000s singles it's hard to say what was first, CD single or digital, Sweden or United Kingdom etc. I check entries in digital stores and also its archived versions and compare it to artist website and social media, label announcements in music video, trailers etc. but it's still hard especially if you are sure certain version of release not existed 10 years ago in iTunes but today it's added to Apple Music with quite random 2008 date when the real release of this version would be 2012. So if there are trailers with release date on 6 April 2009 you can find single in digital stores with release date on 5 and 6 April. If you compare different digital stores they has the same releases assigned to the same wrong release date or just both date looks weird if you look at archived announcements. There are also cases when release was announced and delayed. Eurohunter ( talk) 13:11, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi, it’s me, KevinML! I have a request to expand the article for the Aerosmith song Home Tonight. Here are some ideas that I have in mind for this:
1) Add a “Background” or “Release” section. For instance, when it was released as the album’s second single, the band hoped that this track would be hit single like their classic ballad Dream On. However, “Home Tonight ultimately stalled at No. 71 on the charts.
2) Add a “Live Performances” section. This comes from the same source as my previous example. In live performances, Steven Tyler would occasionally perform a small segment of “Home Tonight” as an in-concert intro for “Dream On.”
3) “Composition” section This song is in Ab Major with a moderate tempo of 79 bpm. The song builds up in speed during the instrumental outro.
If any (or all) of these requests are valid, then can I add them into the article? Please let me know. Hopefully this would bump potentially bump the article up from “Stub” status! KevinML ( talk) 23:00, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Here’s the source I used: https://ultimateclassicrock.com/aerosmith-rocks-track-by-track/
I still don’t know if this will be a “reliable” source, but if you can find any, please let me know because I’m trying to get this article to at least Start-class. Also I’m trying to find the song’s charting history on Billboard. KevinML ( talk) 00:28, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
I just expanded part the article for Home Tonight by adding two new sections. Can I remove the Stub template from the article with the amount of content that I just added? KevinML ( talk) 03:24, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
The sub categories for this container cat are i.e. Category:Songs composed in A major. Now forgive me, unlike classical music, we rarely know the key a song is composed in, so I would think most of the entries not just fail original research but are in fact, just an assumption that the song was recorded in the key it was written. It also assumes, quite wrongly, that all singers sing the song in the same key.
This problem is caused by trying to follow existing categories for instrumental music, most relevantly classical music i.e. Handel’s Flute sonata in G major (HWV 363b), which apparently Handel wrote in F and it was transcribed by an unknown hand (source:WP)
To be of any use the category name should be something more along the lines of Category:Song recordings in the key of A major.
There is a discussion of key signatures and BPM above which is partly relevant to this discussion.
So, keep, rename or delete? What is your opinion? -- Richhoncho ( talk) 13:39, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
In view of comments, I have now nominated the whole 'songs by key' tree Songs by key deletion proposal. -- Richhoncho ( talk) 11:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Richhoncho: and Richard3120 All you have to do is make the category Songs ORIGINALLY RECORDED in and make it compulsory that the song has to have a source stating that this is the case to avoid OR. It wasn't a massive issue. It was a useful category system for musicians. I suggest we recreate the category with ORIGINALLY RECORDED key criteria and that articles have to be sourced to include them. Who says categories shouldn't be used for non-classical works Ojorojo? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:14, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
We have these classes also with jazz songs and national anthems, for example:
If the song in class of Gb major jazz compositions, Have yourself a merry little Christmas, was really reworded in Gb major, how could we know, if it was composed in Gb major? And same with national anthems. In that category that I linked, there is my country's, Finland's national anthem, Maamme. I know that very many bands play it in Bb major, but do we know if it has been composed in Bb major also?-- Sentree ( talk) 13:47, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Lorraine cycle#Requested move 13 August 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky ( talk) 05:04, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Links 2 3 4#Requested move 30 August 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 17:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
A discussion has erupted about whether YouTube view counts for every song should be included in their articles, regardless of whether this detail has attracted a mention in third-party sources or not. Rockmusicfanatic20 has decided to add 36 million views, 7 million views, 5 million views, and even 1 million views to articles as if they are noteworthy achievements. What is the community's take on this and is there time there should be a streaming version of WP:SINGLEVENDOR? Is there already some precedent in place to prevent such additions? I would appreciate any help. Regards.-- N Ø 17:40, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
I stumble upon articles about songs, including ones from the 20th century. I see some or many articles lacking image captions for lead images, especially in infoboxes. When an Article contains an inaccurate caption, I have to correct the inaccuracy... in every article I see. When an article omits a caption, a reader may assume that the image was used in worldwide release... and wouldn't bother researching and compare. Of course, newer singles have used universal cover arts, making captions unnecessary. How long must I continually correct captions in every article if the issue is not that serious? Additionally, if not alternatively, I can change images as I have often done, but then I can encounter opposition as I have had. George Ho ( talk) 22:58, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
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I don't recall many songs that sounded familiar, and that were modern that I can't find WP articles about. This is a 2021 song that has already been used in commercials for Pizza Hut, Toyota and BMW. Can anyone find enough about this song to stub out an article.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:14, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:4 Da Gang#Requested move 26 October 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 16:24, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
I don't know how to research certifications. Has Sheesh! achieved any certifications?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:52, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
Authenticity by personal testimony from People who were there or have knowledge of the origin, writer, and other details around the origin of a song. AGAcitizen ( talk) 22:37, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
I know that the certification criteria try to accurately reflect the times as use has shifted to digital download and then streaming. Is it now possible for a song to be certified without ever charting (Possibly not counting any streaming charts)? Are there notable songs that have achieved this status?- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:19, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Launched Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Learn to Fly (Surfaces and Elton John song) last week, no responses yet. QuietHere ( talk) 00:43, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
I wondering if anyone thinks that there's enough in JVKE#"Golden Hour" per WP:NSONG for it to be split off as the stand-alone article Golden Hour (song). -- Marchjuly ( talk) 06:07, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Hello!
It's been a question that's been going through my mind for quite some time. Should we use Pure Charts as a source in music articles? It's an essential question, hence this sole source is responsible of calling some songs singles (e.g. "
Free Woman", "
I'll Never Love Again"). Sometimes that information is verified by other sites (like in "
Love Again" or "
End Game"). However,
FrB.TG brought an argument in the
Talk:Bad Romance#Release history, saying that the site is not secure and not a high-quality source. What do you think?
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I have opened discussions regarding the following songs at Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5: " All I Want for Christmas Is You", " Cielito Lindo", " Don't Cry for Me Argentina" and " Scarborough Fair (ballad)".- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:12, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Page watchers may be interested in Template talk:Music ratings#Merged. Izno ( talk) 02:54, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Now that " The Christmas Song" has cracked the List of Billboard Hot 100 top-ten singles in 2023, could someone with proper charting expertise add a prose chart history section for this song.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:32, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
I think the above could be deleted. It's an unsourced stub and while attempting to flesh it out more, I discovered that the song only charted on one US radio chart (whose ref I added to the page today) and nowhere else. There was prev a UK entry in the Charts section, but the OCC website only lists "Hanging By A Moment" and "Spin" as charting so I removed it. There's nothing by way of dedicated reviews for the song either. Only minimal mentions in reviews for its parent album Stanley Climbfall, which I've also been expanding by and by. I plan on creating a section in the album article to discuss details about some of the individual tracks, including "Spin" and "TMA", so the radio chart info would be mentioned there. Thoughts? -- Carlobunnie ( talk) 21:06, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
Why there s no wider category for love songs? Eurohunter ( talk) 17:11, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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My apologies for not sorting this list down; please feel free to remove those that aren't actually applicable to this WP. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:42, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Now that WP:NSONG has been changed to allow covers, we should start making a list of songs that should be split out. Off the top of my head:
Obviously, most of these are influenced by the blinders of my music tast, so feel free to add to this list! theleekycauldron ( talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:02, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
How about language adaptations as well? I was thinking splitting " Ahora Te Puedes Marchar" from " I Only Want to Be with You". The lyrics in the Spanish version have nothing to do with the original song as the article mentions. Also plan to split " Vivir Mi Vida" from " C'est la vie (Khaled song)". Erick ( talk) 16:57, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Articles should not be split into multiple articles just so each can advocate a different stance on the subject.Are any of the articles listed above long enough to warrant a complete spin-off? One of the first cover articles I remember seeing is Africa (Weezer cover), which is on the short side. The article for Toto's original is much longer, yet I don't believe spinning Weezer's version off was necessary at this point. I've seen children's books longer than that.
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Heads up on Sockpuppetry or forum shopping or other shenanigans going on with recent votes at Talk:Second Guessing (song). 10mmsocket ( talk) 17:44, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
There's an ongoing discussion re: how albums are categorized over at WikiProject Albums:
IMO, this discussion also applies to how songs by artists are categorized, so I would welcome members of this project to review and weigh in, too. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:09, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Hello! I'm working on cleaning this article up a little and noticed a section has a maintenance tag saying it needs copyediting according to WP:SONGCOVER. Could someone from this project assist me in doing so? ― Blaze Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:07, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
If anyone interested, this is an RfC about that debatable claim. Bluesatellite ( talk) 10:38, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
I would like to emphasize that the statement that claimed Michael Jackson as "the most awarded music artist" was already removed from Jackson's article recently.
The RfC is only focused on adding a new sentence to Jackson's article, in order to state that there are some sources/estimates that regard Jackson as the most awarded music artist in history. But it is not about labeling him directly as "the most awarded" (since, as I said, that has already been recently removed from the article). Salvabl ( talk) 12:07, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
So I've just come across the term "focus track" here and got curious. Turns out this is apparently a music industry term I've never seen before, but I've found more sources using it ( [7] [8] [9] [10]) as well as this glossary with a vague definition. EN Wikipedia has a handful of usages, though most of those don't appear to be the same thing, and there's no page for it here. Is anyone else here familiar with this term? Is that glossary accurate and it's really that simple, or is there more to it? I'm not sure whether this information affects Wikipedia at all, but it seems like it'd be worth knowing anyway. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 00:30, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
Hi, comments welcome at Talk:Set on You#Redir target. TIA Andrewa ( talk) 22:17, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
Topping the US Hot 100 or UK Singles chart is a big deal for foreign artists, so what kind of weight does a MENA chart achievement hold by comparison? If a song is the first by a singer from a particular country or of a particular genre to top said chart, is that a notable enough achievement to mention in the Commercial performance section? This is the Forbes ME article that sparked my question. Unsure if the Record Charts talk page would've been the better place to ask. -- Carlobunnie ( talk) 01:22, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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How to start article assessment for A-class? It's an article about the song " Fest i hela huset" by Swedish musician Basshunter. Eurohunter ( talk) 15:48, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
Launched two FfD queries the other day (both here) which haven't gotten any responses yet. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 15:32, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
There is a young account dedicated to ensuring that Cedric Smith (actor) gets sufficiently prominent credit in two articles, Carrickfergus (song) and Elemental (Loreena McKennitt album), for singing the lead in that song. I wonder whether anyone other than me thinks he is adequately mentioned elsewhere on the same pages. — Tamfang ( talk) 01:20, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Face 2 Face (Juice Wrld song)#Requested move 3 July 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 10:36, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
There is refname parameter for charts table but what about certifications table? Eurohunter ( talk) 22:18, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Is Sweden Songs chart by Billboard notable? Eurohunter ( talk) 20:19, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
There's an RfC going on at the Village Pump about cover songs that anyone interested should check out. ResPM ( T🔈 🎵C) 10:58, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Tell Em#Requested move 14 July 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ❯❯❯ Raydann (Talk) 21:20, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
I've been doing some cleanup on Category:Songs, and I have a few questions before proceeding on a few cleanup avenues. Do discographies belong in the subcats of Category:Songs by artist or other categories with song in the name? Do instrumentals/non-vocal works belong in categories with song in the name, as opposed to larger corresponding categories like compositions/recordings/works? Should Category:1970 songs be a subcat of Category:1970 compositions, along with corresponding moves for the hundreds of corresponding years/decades/centuries? I assume the answers are answers are no, no, and yes, but I'd like some input before proceeding. Thanks! Star Garnet ( talk) 18:35, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
Would someone from songs mind taking a look at Mr. Rager#Legacy since it kind of looks like an attempt to WP:COATRACK and article about a book into the "Legacy" section. That section appears to have been added here in May 2020 as part of a major expansion/reorganization of the article. While there does seem to be some kind of connection between the book's subject and the song, it seems a bit odd to devote the entire "Legacy" section to it. Perhaps some of this can be trimmed, particularly the photo of the book's author and some of the excessive detail about the book. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 21:51, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
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You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic discography#Couldn't the list be smartphone-friendly?, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. The discussion encompasses both the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic discography and My Little Pony: Equestria Girls discography articles. JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 14:42, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Hey everyone, I've been working the last month or so to improve the article for " Plastic Love" with the goal of getting to GA or FA in the future. I think I've scoured the internet thoroughly enough to find and use most reputable English-language sources, and I've been able to find a handful of Japanese ones with the help of Google Translate. That being said, I think the article could still use some work - specifically on its critical reception and on the actual recording process of the song itself. As it is right now, the article relies mostly on English-language sources, so I'm not sure it's at the best state it could be.
Ideally, this article would include contemporaneous media coverage in the 80s of the album (think album reviews, news pieces, etc.), modern articles which discuss the song from a critical or retrospective lens, or interviews with Takeuchi herself. However, I don't speak or read Japanese, so I'm kind of limited in how I can research here. If anyone who does have a knowledge of Japanese and has access to these sorts of resources is able, I would greatly appreciate your help in this research. Toa Nidhiki05 19:04, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Reportedly, AllAccess has discontinued operations on August 15. The site will now remain online for "an undetermined amount of time". The "Future releases" links seem to have been removed from the format menus. Have we discussed an alternative? This will probably have huge ramifications for our process of classifying singles.-- N Ø 06:01, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
How to archive links to songs at ASCAP and BMI? The final results are redirected to Disclaimer. I see some BMI archived versions exist at List of songs recorded by Westlife. Eurohunter ( talk) 13:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
An editor has requested that Silver Train (song) be moved to Silver Train, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. Aoeuidhtns ( talk) 14:49, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
A discussion Talk:Dark Eyes (Russian song)#Sindo Garay got stalled and can benefit from extra eyes looking at the issue. In short, some Cuban musician in his interview apparently claimed the authorship of very well-known Dark Eyes (Russian song). No independent claims (either confirming or denying it) exist, but Lute88 insists on the current version of the text that describes this WP:EXTRAORDINARY claim based on the interview with the claiming side alone (primary, non-independent source). If you are interested, please join the discussion using the link in the first sentence ( Talk:Dark Eyes (Russian song)#Sindo Garay). Викидим ( talk) 05:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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Since AJR's song "Inertia" got a music video yesterday, i'm thinking of making an article for it. Should I? ThatOneWheatleyGuy ( talk) 17:28, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
How is this type of vocal called? ( 0:51-1:14) Eurohunter ( talk) 18:36, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to...)#Requested move 7 December 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 12:21, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
I'm writing a draft on the song "Cannibal" by Tally Hall. I'm fairly proud of it, but I would like some feedback. Is anyone willing to do so? I'm relatively new, so any and all critique would be accepted. Thanks!
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There is a discussion here about whether or not to move The Other Girl (song) to The Other Girl. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 02:00, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
It's All Coming Back to Me Now has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster (chat!) 09:34, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Anyone knows how to describe the sound or structure from a song? Sometimes there are some unique sounds or structures in music and no one pay attention to it. There are a few general words from music theory, but for me, it's not enough. I mean, some people can feel some emotion to a particular sound. Basic tags such as "uplifting" etc. are not enough to find more examples of such music - sometimes there is something cool in one song, and you want to find it in other songs, but there is no way to describe it so further research is impossible. Eurohunter ( talk) 15:19, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
In case anyone is looking to clean up some lists:
The scope of the lists of top 10 singles in X year (France) articles are "list of singles that have peaked in the top 10 of the French Singles Chart" (i.e., the SNEP charts). However, List of top 10 singles in 2020 (France) and List of top 10 singles in 2021 (France) refer to Billboard's French digital sales charts, whereas List of top 10 singles in 2022 (France) and List of top 10 singles in 2023 (France) cite to tubesenfrance.com, which tracks iTunes/Amazon sales. voorts ( talk/ contributions) 04:04, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Nasheed#Requested move 11 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 01:06, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
Can someone advise me on the reliability of this publication? It seems okay on the face of it. Vanamonde93 ( talk) 21:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I want to make an article about an original soundtrack because I thought it's notable enough to have its own article but because it has a popular title I was kind of confused on how to add the disambiguator. Should I named it "Song Title (Singer-name song)" or "Song Title (Work-name original soundtrack)" or you have more correct one? Please help me decide, thank you in advance! Zhglobal ( talk) 04:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, is there a specific number of reviews for a song allowed on an article's critical reception section? I read through this article and couldn't find a clear statement on it. AskeeaeWiki ( talk) 20:20, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Zorra (song)#Requested move 4 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 14:25, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Facts (song)#Requested move 5 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 17:16, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
There is an RfC going on at Talk:Yes, And?#RfC about Infobox cover about the usage of single covers that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.-- N Ø 14:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
I've noticed that the " Kau Ilhamku" entry appears to have a strong promotional focus on the 2015 cover/remix version, giving less emphasis to the original Man Bai song. I'd like to propose edits that rebalance this focus and offer more historical background on the original. I've located some reliable secondary sources that discuss Man Bai's version in more detail. Would anyone be interested in collaborating on these edits? nMyghet ( talk) 17:39, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Noticed recently that it seems to be a common practice to include a song page in songs by artist categories for artists who have varyingly prominent covers of those songs. For example, Mötley Crüe songs currently includes " Helter Skelter", " Like a Virgin", and " Tonight", all of which include relatively brief mentions of Crüe's covers of those songs. " Jailhouse Rock" was also in there (as well as in ZZ Top songs and the Blues Brothers songs), but I removed it due to a complete lack of mention. To me, it doesn't seem proper to include these cats at all unless the cover is a very prominent (per DEFINING) part of the article, such as " Torn" being in Natalie Imbruglia songs, but I'd like to know how other editors feel before I start tearing things out further. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 18:31, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Is " Dirt off Your Shoulder" capitalized correctly? Should "Off" not be capitalized instead? I don't see any mention of "off" in either MOS:TITLECAPS or MOS:CAPS, and while I know "on" is typically lowercase in titles, I don't seem to remember the same rule applying to "off". QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 13:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Prepositions containing four letters or fewer (as, in, of, on, to, for, from, into, like, over, with, upon, etc.); but see above for instances where these words are not used as preposition" So surely "off" counts just as much as "on"? That list ends with "etc." Martinevans123 ( talk) 14:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2024 February 27#File:Poison Song Cover Image.jpeg about using video thumbnails in the cover= parameter of the infobox for songs from the musical animated series Hazbin Hotel. Thanks if you can find the time to weigh in with your opinion. Ss 112 14:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Zerox (song)#Requested move 1 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 09:09, 1 March 2024 (UTC)