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Please read and comment at Talk:Whistle register#Request for semi-protection? 4meter4 ( talk) 03:17, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Members may want to comment at Wikipedia talk:Notability (music)#Proposal to remove "Has won or placed in a major music competition." from "from Criteria for musicians and ensembles". – Voceditenore ( talk) 17:16, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
As most of you have probably seen in the news, tenor Jon Vickers has died. His article is in bad shape and is likely to get a lot of traffic this week. The following news articles could be used to cite and improve the article if anyone is interested:
Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 20:40, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Vickers added to ITN recent deaths 16 July -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:29, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
I have a number of images without attribution to acts, so I thought I'd come here to check:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85274984/f3.item.r=Les%20contes%20d%27Hoffmann%20Offenbach is the prologue, not the epilogue, right?
Is http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85274984/f5.item.r=Les%20contes%20d%27Hoffmann%20Offenbach the Antonia act, or is it the Olympia act sans the spectacles?
Is http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85274984/f2.item.r=Les%20contes%20d%27Hoffmann%20Offenbach identifiable at all as to act?
Is http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85274984/f1.zoom.r=Les%20contes%20d%27Hoffmann%20Offenbach is the Giulietta act? There's some elements of the staging that are a little confusing, but I can't think of any other duel, let alone an important one.
Adam Cuerden ( talk) 20:25, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
The article on the baritone voice type needs to be updated to include prominent singers of the 21st century. SpiritedMichelle ( talk) 02:02, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for updating the project page regarding templates. How about a different composer than Verdi to illustrate the side navbox? Perhaps a word about that a side navbox is not needed when a bottom navbox is there? (That is a dangerous comment which can get you arbcom restricted but if it is made on a project page and now it should be safe.) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 17:54, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
I am uneasy about this category, since the Theatre Royal at Covent Garden only became the Royal Opera House in 1892. As a consequence we have, e.g. Artaxerxes (opera) categorized as premiered at the ROH, which is misleading to say the least. I suggest a new category '...premieres at the Theatre Royal, Covent Garden' for operas premiered there before 1892....opinions?-- Smerus ( talk) 06:41, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
The Operalia 2015 contest was just held in London and the winners have been announced. The names of the winners need to be added to the contest page. SpiritedMichelle ( talk) 03:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
File:Wilhelm_Benque_-_Photograph_of_Ambroise_Thomas.jpg
Since this rather came out of nowhere - was poking in the article today, thought I'd quickly check if bigger copies of any of the images were available, found a much bigger, higher-quality copy, and did the whole restoration in a few hours - I thought I'd put this here for the benefit of Thomas fans. =) Adam Cuerden ( talk) 07:06, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Article of Alan Curtis (harpsichordist), discoverer of operas, might offer more, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:26, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi all, I just noticed that we have an article on modern singer Teresa Parodi. But none on the 19th century soprano of that name that warranted her own biography and was a rival of Jenny Lind in New York. She was very close to Giuditta Pasta and her husband. Anyone want to give it a go? 4meter4 ( talk) 00:21, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
The contents of the List of opera companies was so utterly random, and so badly reflected the quoted criterion (six fully-staged productions a year) that it's hard to believe that anyone has really looked at this list in years. The fact that there are but 13 German companies and as many as 11 US companies listed says much. I've completely removed the table of individual entries, so the page now just directs readers to the List of opera companies in Asia, Australia, and Oceania, the List of opera companies in Europe etc. Scarabocchio ( talk) 12:00, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
A tenor with a considerable discography is up for deletion. 4meter4 ( talk) 21:12, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Since noone else did it, I've set these up. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 11:58, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
Let's get next month sorted. How about Auber for the composer? Adam Cuerden ( talk) 02:32, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Four of Tailleferre's chamber operas all premiered together in a cycle of operas written for radio entitled Du style galant au style méchant (including Le bel ambitieux, La fille d'opéra, Monsieur Petit Pois achète un château, La pauvre Eugénie) on December 28, 1955 in a performance by the Radiodiffusion-Télévision Française. Each opera in the cycle parodies a different operatic form or style. It's obvious these pieces were written to be performed together, and I think an article on the opera cycle itself with redirects from the opera titles to the opera cycle would be a better way to handle this topic. Please see this French language source for confirmation. 4meter4 ( talk) 15:17, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Way too many articles about prominent and important opera singers today have no photo of the subject. These articles include Dolora Zajick and Joyce DiDonato. This needs to be worked on. SpiritedMichelle ( talk) 02:02, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
W. H. Auden has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. MusicAngels ( talk) 18:28, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
The list of operas performed at the Santa Fe Opera needs to be updated to include the 2015 season. SpiritedMichelle ( talk) 04:58, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi all. User:Battleofalma recently created an article on one of the operas of the month. It's clear it was a copy paste job of the spanish wiki article (complete with the info box from that page with the spanish language wiki template format which did not work on the english wiki. I therefore removed the template). The article is rife with grammar errors due to an obvious babel fish translation. It is also entirely unreferenced. 4meter4 ( talk) 01:17, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Voceditenore ( talk) 13:17, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
I noinated this opera singer for a speedy deletion because it is an unreferenced blp. It may be this singer is notable, but given his nationality it is unlikely to find verifiable references. If you care to rescue it by adding refs I would applaud the effort. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 22:55, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
I have just had some singers' names which I added in good faith from a reliable source removed for a second time from the article on André Messager's La Basoche. Leaving aside the 'one-revert' rule, given that large numbers of 'non-notable' names (in the sense of not linked to a WP article) not to mention places or works of art, exist across many opera articles, I just wonder if any Opera Project members have comments on this issue? (or should this practice only apply to La Basoche?). Thank you. Cg2p0B0u8m ( talk) 15:57, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Members may want to comment. She has performed Adele in Die Fledermaus and the Queen of the Night in The Magic Flute in performances at the Prague State Opera. See here. Her website also mentions some other notable projects, including a recording made this past June with the Prague Symphony Orchestra in which she was a featured soloist and portraying Zerlina in Don Giovanni at the Estates Theatre this Summer. In August 2012 she was a soloist with the Berlin Philharmonic. She has also appeared as Olympia in The Tales of Hoffmann at the Kazan Opera House in Russia. She placed 4th in the finals at the International Mozart Competition in Salzburg. This one might be rescued if sources can be found. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 04:17, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you,
— Cirt ( talk) 06:43, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
File:Albert Reiss LOC ggbain-25651.jpg
Don't think I'll be counting this towards my Verdi project - it was for someone else - but reckon the community may be interested. He was the creator of several roles in major operas, most notably probably Nick in La fanciulla del West, though that may just be my love of Puccini showing through. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 02:20, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Documentation of something like this is not fun. Still, will be useful, methinks. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 15:35, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
This article is being discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Sylvester. Voceditenore ( talk) 10:33, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
... is - as you probably know - Il ritorno d'Ulisse in patria, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 12:36, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
This article is being discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Hamilton (tenor). Voceditenore ( talk) 13:01, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
This is now being discussed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of major opera composers (2nd nomination).-- Smerus ( talk) 12:19, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
This article on a notable subject is up for speedy deletion. It should be deleted as stands, but the subject is worthy of an article. 4meter4 ( talk) 23:43, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi all. I just removed a prod for deletion from the wikipedia article on opera librettist and opera director Sanne Bjerg. The article does need sourcing and cleanup if anyone cares to lend a hand. A google books search revealed reviews of her works in Opera and Opernwelt magazines among other publications. I think this article is worth saving. 4meter4 ( talk) 00:00, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Good work! 4meter4 ( talk) 03:15, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Just noticed that William Johns redirects to an article on writer W. E. Johns. Wikipedia could use an article on Wagnerian tenor William Johns who portayed Siegfried in The Ring Cycle at the Met and the Bayreuth Festival to name just a few notable performances. Here is his bio at Operissimo concertissimo which relates an impressive international career. 4meter4 ( talk) 16:43, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
This article was just created by User:Meister und Margarita... I personally think the content should be merged into the Salzburg Festival article. 4meter4 ( talk) 01:20, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
At the last minute, the creator of the article has objected to the merger - see Talk:Opera Repertory of the Salzburg Festival 2015. Would any interested editors care to comment there, please?-- Smerus ( talk) 05:02, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
This article is being discussed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Opera Repertory of the Salzburg Festival 2015. Voceditenore ( talk) 12:10, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
There is a discussion taking place at Talk:The Marriage of Figaro#Images and in the section beneath it. Voceditenore ( talk) 08:37, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
I have nominated List of major opera composers for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Giants2008 ( Talk) 00:38, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Re the recent discussiob about The Marriage of Figaro I am glad that the pix of the Dresen production have been removed. However, I see that for the illustration in the 'opera box' top right, the old rather bug-eyed pic pf Mozart has been replaced. I do feel that it is perhpas appropriate for such boxes to feature some scene from a (preferably) early production of the opera, rather than for all of them to carry a portrait of the composer. Any views?-- Smerus ( talk) 13:40, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
This article is being discussed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiril Manolov. – Voceditenore ( talk) 10:17, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Special:Contributions/67.235.145.203 has been changing the vocal ranges on all the voice type articles. I reverted the change on Tenor on the basis that no source was provided for the change, but vocal ranges and their notation are all a mystery to me. Could someone who knows what their doing check the IP's other contributions and revert if necessary? Voceditenore ( talk) 16:50, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
It seems that Category:Orchestra conductor templates is not for individuals, although {{ Plácido Domingo}} is somehow in the category. I am wondering if templates such as {{ Arturo Toscanini}} should exist. I just created it to see what it would look like. Do we want conductors to have templates like these.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:22, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 115 | ← | Archive 120 | Archive 121 | Archive 122 | Archive 123 | Archive 124 | Archive 125 |
Hello all! The Wikipedia Library has just launched a partnership with RIPM to offer Wikipedians free access to this archive of music periodicals. Please sign up for one of the 20 free accounts at WP:RIPM. Nikkimaria ( talk) 22:27, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Please read and comment at Talk:Whistle register#Request for semi-protection? 4meter4 ( talk) 03:17, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Members may want to comment at Wikipedia talk:Notability (music)#Proposal to remove "Has won or placed in a major music competition." from "from Criteria for musicians and ensembles". – Voceditenore ( talk) 17:16, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
As most of you have probably seen in the news, tenor Jon Vickers has died. His article is in bad shape and is likely to get a lot of traffic this week. The following news articles could be used to cite and improve the article if anyone is interested:
Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 20:40, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Vickers added to ITN recent deaths 16 July -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:29, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
I have a number of images without attribution to acts, so I thought I'd come here to check:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85274984/f3.item.r=Les%20contes%20d%27Hoffmann%20Offenbach is the prologue, not the epilogue, right?
Is http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85274984/f5.item.r=Les%20contes%20d%27Hoffmann%20Offenbach the Antonia act, or is it the Olympia act sans the spectacles?
Is http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85274984/f2.item.r=Les%20contes%20d%27Hoffmann%20Offenbach identifiable at all as to act?
Is http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85274984/f1.zoom.r=Les%20contes%20d%27Hoffmann%20Offenbach is the Giulietta act? There's some elements of the staging that are a little confusing, but I can't think of any other duel, let alone an important one.
Adam Cuerden ( talk) 20:25, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
The article on the baritone voice type needs to be updated to include prominent singers of the 21st century. SpiritedMichelle ( talk) 02:02, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for updating the project page regarding templates. How about a different composer than Verdi to illustrate the side navbox? Perhaps a word about that a side navbox is not needed when a bottom navbox is there? (That is a dangerous comment which can get you arbcom restricted but if it is made on a project page and now it should be safe.) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 17:54, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
I am uneasy about this category, since the Theatre Royal at Covent Garden only became the Royal Opera House in 1892. As a consequence we have, e.g. Artaxerxes (opera) categorized as premiered at the ROH, which is misleading to say the least. I suggest a new category '...premieres at the Theatre Royal, Covent Garden' for operas premiered there before 1892....opinions?-- Smerus ( talk) 06:41, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
The Operalia 2015 contest was just held in London and the winners have been announced. The names of the winners need to be added to the contest page. SpiritedMichelle ( talk) 03:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
File:Wilhelm_Benque_-_Photograph_of_Ambroise_Thomas.jpg
Since this rather came out of nowhere - was poking in the article today, thought I'd quickly check if bigger copies of any of the images were available, found a much bigger, higher-quality copy, and did the whole restoration in a few hours - I thought I'd put this here for the benefit of Thomas fans. =) Adam Cuerden ( talk) 07:06, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Article of Alan Curtis (harpsichordist), discoverer of operas, might offer more, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:26, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi all, I just noticed that we have an article on modern singer Teresa Parodi. But none on the 19th century soprano of that name that warranted her own biography and was a rival of Jenny Lind in New York. She was very close to Giuditta Pasta and her husband. Anyone want to give it a go? 4meter4 ( talk) 00:21, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
The contents of the List of opera companies was so utterly random, and so badly reflected the quoted criterion (six fully-staged productions a year) that it's hard to believe that anyone has really looked at this list in years. The fact that there are but 13 German companies and as many as 11 US companies listed says much. I've completely removed the table of individual entries, so the page now just directs readers to the List of opera companies in Asia, Australia, and Oceania, the List of opera companies in Europe etc. Scarabocchio ( talk) 12:00, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
A tenor with a considerable discography is up for deletion. 4meter4 ( talk) 21:12, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Since noone else did it, I've set these up. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 11:58, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
Let's get next month sorted. How about Auber for the composer? Adam Cuerden ( talk) 02:32, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Four of Tailleferre's chamber operas all premiered together in a cycle of operas written for radio entitled Du style galant au style méchant (including Le bel ambitieux, La fille d'opéra, Monsieur Petit Pois achète un château, La pauvre Eugénie) on December 28, 1955 in a performance by the Radiodiffusion-Télévision Française. Each opera in the cycle parodies a different operatic form or style. It's obvious these pieces were written to be performed together, and I think an article on the opera cycle itself with redirects from the opera titles to the opera cycle would be a better way to handle this topic. Please see this French language source for confirmation. 4meter4 ( talk) 15:17, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Way too many articles about prominent and important opera singers today have no photo of the subject. These articles include Dolora Zajick and Joyce DiDonato. This needs to be worked on. SpiritedMichelle ( talk) 02:02, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
W. H. Auden has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. MusicAngels ( talk) 18:28, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
The list of operas performed at the Santa Fe Opera needs to be updated to include the 2015 season. SpiritedMichelle ( talk) 04:58, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi all. User:Battleofalma recently created an article on one of the operas of the month. It's clear it was a copy paste job of the spanish wiki article (complete with the info box from that page with the spanish language wiki template format which did not work on the english wiki. I therefore removed the template). The article is rife with grammar errors due to an obvious babel fish translation. It is also entirely unreferenced. 4meter4 ( talk) 01:17, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Voceditenore ( talk) 13:17, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
I noinated this opera singer for a speedy deletion because it is an unreferenced blp. It may be this singer is notable, but given his nationality it is unlikely to find verifiable references. If you care to rescue it by adding refs I would applaud the effort. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 22:55, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
I have just had some singers' names which I added in good faith from a reliable source removed for a second time from the article on André Messager's La Basoche. Leaving aside the 'one-revert' rule, given that large numbers of 'non-notable' names (in the sense of not linked to a WP article) not to mention places or works of art, exist across many opera articles, I just wonder if any Opera Project members have comments on this issue? (or should this practice only apply to La Basoche?). Thank you. Cg2p0B0u8m ( talk) 15:57, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Members may want to comment. She has performed Adele in Die Fledermaus and the Queen of the Night in The Magic Flute in performances at the Prague State Opera. See here. Her website also mentions some other notable projects, including a recording made this past June with the Prague Symphony Orchestra in which she was a featured soloist and portraying Zerlina in Don Giovanni at the Estates Theatre this Summer. In August 2012 she was a soloist with the Berlin Philharmonic. She has also appeared as Olympia in The Tales of Hoffmann at the Kazan Opera House in Russia. She placed 4th in the finals at the International Mozart Competition in Salzburg. This one might be rescued if sources can be found. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 04:17, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you,
— Cirt ( talk) 06:43, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
File:Albert Reiss LOC ggbain-25651.jpg
Don't think I'll be counting this towards my Verdi project - it was for someone else - but reckon the community may be interested. He was the creator of several roles in major operas, most notably probably Nick in La fanciulla del West, though that may just be my love of Puccini showing through. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 02:20, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Documentation of something like this is not fun. Still, will be useful, methinks. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 15:35, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
This article is being discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Sylvester. Voceditenore ( talk) 10:33, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
... is - as you probably know - Il ritorno d'Ulisse in patria, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 12:36, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
This article is being discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Hamilton (tenor). Voceditenore ( talk) 13:01, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
This is now being discussed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of major opera composers (2nd nomination).-- Smerus ( talk) 12:19, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
This article on a notable subject is up for speedy deletion. It should be deleted as stands, but the subject is worthy of an article. 4meter4 ( talk) 23:43, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi all. I just removed a prod for deletion from the wikipedia article on opera librettist and opera director Sanne Bjerg. The article does need sourcing and cleanup if anyone cares to lend a hand. A google books search revealed reviews of her works in Opera and Opernwelt magazines among other publications. I think this article is worth saving. 4meter4 ( talk) 00:00, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Good work! 4meter4 ( talk) 03:15, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Just noticed that William Johns redirects to an article on writer W. E. Johns. Wikipedia could use an article on Wagnerian tenor William Johns who portayed Siegfried in The Ring Cycle at the Met and the Bayreuth Festival to name just a few notable performances. Here is his bio at Operissimo concertissimo which relates an impressive international career. 4meter4 ( talk) 16:43, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
This article was just created by User:Meister und Margarita... I personally think the content should be merged into the Salzburg Festival article. 4meter4 ( talk) 01:20, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
At the last minute, the creator of the article has objected to the merger - see Talk:Opera Repertory of the Salzburg Festival 2015. Would any interested editors care to comment there, please?-- Smerus ( talk) 05:02, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
This article is being discussed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Opera Repertory of the Salzburg Festival 2015. Voceditenore ( talk) 12:10, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
There is a discussion taking place at Talk:The Marriage of Figaro#Images and in the section beneath it. Voceditenore ( talk) 08:37, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
I have nominated List of major opera composers for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Giants2008 ( Talk) 00:38, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Re the recent discussiob about The Marriage of Figaro I am glad that the pix of the Dresen production have been removed. However, I see that for the illustration in the 'opera box' top right, the old rather bug-eyed pic pf Mozart has been replaced. I do feel that it is perhpas appropriate for such boxes to feature some scene from a (preferably) early production of the opera, rather than for all of them to carry a portrait of the composer. Any views?-- Smerus ( talk) 13:40, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
This article is being discussed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiril Manolov. – Voceditenore ( talk) 10:17, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Special:Contributions/67.235.145.203 has been changing the vocal ranges on all the voice type articles. I reverted the change on Tenor on the basis that no source was provided for the change, but vocal ranges and their notation are all a mystery to me. Could someone who knows what their doing check the IP's other contributions and revert if necessary? Voceditenore ( talk) 16:50, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
It seems that Category:Orchestra conductor templates is not for individuals, although {{ Plácido Domingo}} is somehow in the category. I am wondering if templates such as {{ Arturo Toscanini}} should exist. I just created it to see what it would look like. Do we want conductors to have templates like these.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:22, 20 October 2015 (UTC)