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Could use some input at Talk:Donald_Sterling#Playoff_success. Thanks.— Bagumba ( talk) 18:36, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
Question - the current Charlotte Hornets team is keeping the entirety of its team history, from when it was the original Hornets through the Bobcats right? I see where someone created Category:Charlotte Hornets (1988-2002) back in May and I'm pretty sure this category shouldn't exist at all. If not, I'll CfD it and then ping WT:NBA with the discussion, I just want to make sure first. Jrcla2 ( talk) 11:52, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
As always seems to be the case with NBA.com stats links, the links to D-League players' stats have changed. As an editor's fix to Jeremy Lin shows, his link has changed from http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/jeremy_lin to http://stats.nbadleague.com/playerProfile.html?PlayerID=202391, the biggest problem being that the name is now transformed to a numerical ID and not an easy change in {{ basketballstats}}. Being that basketball-reference.com now includes D-League stats in their profiles for NBA players e.g. see "Full Record" link next to "D-League" near the top at Lin's b-r.com profile, should we just remove support from the template for NBA.com-provided D-League stats?— Bagumba ( talk) 02:30, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
There's been a few articles this offseason where a reliable source says a player/coach has agreed to a contract, and people go and update a bio's lead, infobox etc. with the new team info. However, the source doesn't say the contract was signed, and the team has not issued a press release. The most recent example is Byron Scott, who has confirmed an agreement with the Lakers. Or Chris Bosh, who most would accept is part of the Miami Heat now—even NBA.com's free agent tracker lists him with Miami—but there has been no press release yet, presumably since Miami will sign him last due to salary cap reasons. While I can see how neither Scott nor Bosh is "official", perhaps either side reneges and the contract isn't done, is it for all intents and purposes a done deal? Even if it's not, few editors will recognize the fine print, and has only led to edit wars. I'd suggest the best compromise is to live with changes once a player/coach acknowledges there is an agreement to sign. Open to other suggestions. I hope to summarize ideas here into Wikipedia:WikiProject Sports/Handling sports transactions, which is linked whenever anyone adds {{ current sports transaction}} to an article.— Bagumba ( talk) 01:21, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
I'd be fine with adding Miami back into Chris Bosh's infobox etc just to make it easier for when players stick with their original team. But take Wesley Johnson (basketball) for example. I had put the Lakers back into the infobox and lead because he had agreed to re-sign with the Lakers and to make it easier as pass-by views would just edit it anyway. However, just recently a user removed the Lakers from the infobox because "it's not official" – so even with this scenario, some people don't agree to add agreements to the article (which is technically correct). So if we make exceptions for Mike Miller well then we should make exceptions for all players i.e. Cartier Martin agreed to sign with the Pistons on July 1 and is still not official, Kent Bazemore etc. So for articles like Mike Miller and James Jones I say no, but for Chris Bosh or Wesley Johnson I say yes – purely because the latter two are sticking with their 2013–14 team. Miller and Jones are technically not Cavs players yet, simple as that – keep in mind though, it's still only July, so there's plenty of time yeah? DaHuzyBru ( talk) 04:30, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
I have one question about this. If a player agrees to terms with a team (for example Cartier Martin and the Pistons), can something about it be added to the body section? Something along the lines of, "On July 1, 2014, Martin agreed to terms with the Pistons, but has yet to sign an official contract." Something like that, but keep the infobox as saying "Free Agent". Thoughts? miamiheat631 talk 07:15, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
The previous discussion link at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association/Archive_23#Infobox_basketball_biography_needs_update_to_historical_profiles_link didn't generate any ideas for transforming IDs to NBA.com's new format for retired players. Since the links as currently coded don't work, I've deprecated the previous "nba_historical" parameter to {{ Basketballstats}}. If there is enough interest that people want to manually add the new urls to bios, I'd suggest that the new format be added into Basketballstats, instead of adding an EL on a separate line. However, since NBA.com is notorious for mucking around with url and not redirecting them, I'd suggest just living with basketball-reference.com and saving a lot of rework over time.— Bagumba ( talk) 08:24, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
There has been a lot of activity around Joel Embiid's number with the Sixers. The official site doesn't list numbers and some editors are adding the number 11 to Embiid's article - and in fact, the Sixers are selling a Joel Embiid #11 jersey ( see here) with no disclaimer that the number is not official. The issue has been that fellow rookie K. J. McDaniels wore #11 for the Sixers in Summer League ( see picture), so other editors insist that Embiid can't be #11. I recommend that the Embiid article be protected and a number left off until it officially posts on the Sixers' site (which is incredibly slow to update btw) and that the number be removed from McDaniels' article too for the same duration. Not sure what the Sixres' intention is but the franchise itself is sending mixed messages. Rikster2 ( talk) 17:53, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Jewels30: My thing here is that at the NBA Official Rookie Photo Shoot, Embiid was pictured wearing a #11 76ers jersey and McDaniels was pictured wearing a #14 76ers jersey. I know that on the NBA.com website nothing is listed but I think this is evidence enough to change Embiid's number to 11 and McDaniels number to 14. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jewels30 ( talk • contribs) 22:35, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone have access to NYC birth certificate records or death records? Check out this edit. I'm not sure whether to AGF it or to revert due to WP:V. Jrcla2 ( talk) 20:29, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
I know something almost exactly like this was discussed above, but a user insists on putting Solomon Hill's number as 44 and Damjan Rudez's as 9. The Pacers roster doesn't confirm this, nor do the player files. He gives the Pacers team store as a source but I don't know if that is reliable enough. A few years back, I changed some numbers on a Hawks roster template but they turned out to be completely wrong. If I'm being unreasonable here, feel free to tell me, but I just think we should wait for the season to start or an official announcement from the team. Thoughts? Miamiheat631 ( talk) 22:42, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
FYI George Banks (basketball) was recently created. I filled out his club histories to the best I could and added categories, but as of right now it's a one-sentence stub that could use expanding, if anyone feels inclined. Thanks! Jrcla2 ( talk) 15:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
On the page Toronto Raptors all-time roster we have Robert Archibald listed as from Scotland, but Pops Mensah-Bonsu as from the UK (who is from England) and they both played for team Great Britain internationally. What (if any) is the standard for listing these player's nationality? 18abruce ( talk) 15:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Recently, Special:Contributions/Vineelsai added the conference championships attained by certain players and coaches to their infoboxes. I think that these should not be included in the infoboxes, as there is enough clutter as is. I thought that there should be a discussion about it. What are others' thoughts on the matter? - Hoops gza ( talk) 01:54, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
On the page Toronto Raptors all-time roster we have Robert Archibald listed as from Scotland, but Pops Mensah-Bonsu as from the UK (who is from England) and they both played for team Great Britain internationally. What (if any) is the standard for listing these player's nationality? 18abruce ( talk) 15:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Recently, Special:Contributions/Vineelsai added the conference championships attained by certain players and coaches to their infoboxes. I think that these should not be included in the infoboxes, as there is enough clutter as is. I thought that there should be a discussion about it. What are others' thoughts on the matter? - Hoops gza ( talk) 01:54, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
On the page Toronto Raptors all-time roster we have Robert Archibald listed as from Scotland, but Pops Mensah-Bonsu as from the UK (who is from England) and they both played for team Great Britain internationally. What (if any) is the standard for listing these player's nationality? 18abruce ( talk) 15:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Recently, Special:Contributions/Vineelsai added the conference championships attained by certain players and coaches to their infoboxes. I think that these should not be included in the infoboxes, as there is enough clutter as is. I thought that there should be a discussion about it. What are others' thoughts on the matter? - Hoops gza ( talk) 01:54, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
On the page Toronto Raptors all-time roster we have Robert Archibald listed as from Scotland, but Pops Mensah-Bonsu as from the UK (who is from England) and they both played for team Great Britain internationally. What (if any) is the standard for listing these player's nationality? 18abruce ( talk) 15:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Recently, Special:Contributions/Vineelsai added the conference championships attained by certain players and coaches to their infoboxes. I think that these should not be included in the infoboxes, as there is enough clutter as is. I thought that there should be a discussion about it. What are others' thoughts on the matter? - Hoops gza ( talk) 01:54, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
On the page Toronto Raptors all-time roster we have Robert Archibald listed as from Scotland, but Pops Mensah-Bonsu as from the UK (who is from England) and they both played for team Great Britain internationally. What (if any) is the standard for listing these player's nationality? 18abruce ( talk) 15:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Recently, Special:Contributions/Vineelsai added the conference championships attained by certain players and coaches to their infoboxes. I think that these should not be included in the infoboxes, as there is enough clutter as is. I thought that there should be a discussion about it. What are others' thoughts on the matter? - Hoops gza ( talk) 01:54, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
As players are invited to training camp, we have now hit the second phase of premature transactions - adding teams to club history, team colors, etc. for these guys. Just a reminder that like Summer League participants, these folks have not made the rosters of these teams. I probably have limits for how much I want to police this, but it is that season again so I thought I would note it. As always, player categories should never be added until the player appears in a game Rikster2 ( talk) 15:16, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Miamiheat631, we have been over this type of thing before with the Steve Novak-Diante Garrett trade. It's not a done deal until the team announces it. See here, this reports that Prather has agreed to a non-guaranteed deal with the Suns, but until the Suns officially announce the signing via a press release (similar to this one by the Warriors), he is not a Sun and therefore we do not add this to his article – it is misleading and incorrect. The majority of teams announce their training camp signings in late September i.e. Sep 27–30, so until then, we wait. DaHuzyBru ( talk) 16:09, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
Can someone clarify why both Template:Cincinnati Royals seasons AND Template:Sacramento Kings seasons exist? It appears to me that the Sacramento Kings share the history of these franchises going all the way back to 1945–46 (see List of Sacramento Kings seasons, which has all of them listed). Should those 2 navboxes be condensed into just Template:Sacramento Kings seasons? Jrcla2 ( talk) 16:03, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Can an administrator do a histmerge for Tulsa 66ers and Oklahoma City NBA Development League Team? EvoPitz appeared to have performed a copy/paste move. Same applies to the team rosters. Zappa 24 Mati 23:20, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
I can see warring going on over the line McDonald's All-American Game MVP (2003) in LeBron James' infobox. T23tran has removed it a couple of times. PRwrestlinganalyst has added it a couple of times. I have even reverted on this issue. What is the consensus?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:26, 22 September 2014 (UTC)"
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You are invited to join a discussion on the listing of jersey numbers in former players' infoboxes at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball#Jersey_numbers_for_retired_players.— Bagumba ( talk) 01:17, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
If someone is selected in the NBA draft, but never plays a game, are they within the scope of this project? These players are already included in Category:National Basketball Association draft picks.— Bagumba ( talk) 16:43, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
There should be somewhere for people to list players who need stat tables. I know there are a lot of people who are extremely efficient at producing NBA/NBADL stat tables and I am not. Thus, I request assistance on the following articles:
Help appreciated.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:37, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
All - I want to get some measure of consensus around how all-league, all-conference, etc. is formatted. I believe that the convention of listing membership on one of the All-NBA, NBA All-Rookie, etc. teams as "All-NBA First Team" started with WP:NBA. I have a couple of issues with this practice. First, "first team" probably shouldn't be capitalized. It's not a title. Second, people are starting to take the convention to carry over to college awards, other pro league awards, etc. While "All-NBA first team" may be the correct form, "All-ACC first team" isn't. The (much) more common way of phrasing this would be "first team All-ACC." But I get the POV of trying to make it consistent. Personally, I think the form you'd see it in "real life" is what Wikipedia should reflect. Thoughts? Rikster2 ( talk) 16:41, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
There is a discussion underway about this category. Please give your opinion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 October 11#American men's basketball players. This category was created about a year ago and currently has about 60 articles in it (obviously very underpopulated). I would like to see strong representation from people who actually work basketball artices (and other similarly structured sports) weigh in as this would essentially signal a new category structure to be built and implemented (50 state-specific men's and 50 state-specific women's categories). There are pros and cons to the structure, but whatever your views I would like to ensure that the decision reached is one reached by robust dialogue and careful consideration. Especially as this did not occur the last time this category was CfD'ed. Thanks. Rikster2 ( talk) 17:33, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to propose that a player's infobox generally not list the organization(s) that issue similar honors, such as All-American. I don't think the average reader needs the detail in an infobox; it can be expanded in the body, or a standalone section with an exhaustive list of awards and issuing organizations can be created. There was a similar earlier discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association/Archive_24#Infobox_stylistics. For NBA players with many pro highlights listed, the practice at Wikipedia:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association/Article_guidelines#National_player_of_the_year has been to consolidate the various player of the year honors without listing the organization.
For a current AA example, Kyle Anderson (basketball) lists AP and TSN in his infoxbox, and the information is both in the body and in a standalone list in the article.— Bagumba ( talk) 20:09, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Would like to get others' opinions and avoid an edit war. User:Sportsgamaniacre has now twice moved Lakers–Clippers rivalry to Clippers–Lakers rivalry, citing personal preference for "alphabetical order". The last revert undid my change back to "Lakers–Clippers rivalry" based on WP:COMMONNAME. There are 50,000 hits for "Lakers–Clippers rivalry" versus 500 for "Clippers–Lakers rivalry". Sportsgamaniacre already used the same "alphabetize" rationale in a past RM request at Talk:Yankees–Red_Sox_rivalry#Rename_article, which failed due to COMMONNAME. I'll leave this up to consensus, but the user's warring history needs to cease, regardless of the outcome of this specific article.— Bagumba ( talk) 20:39, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
You are invited to take part in a discussion about this category at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 October 24#Sport players from Louisville, Kentucky. Rikster2 ( talk) 13:35, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi there. A recent requested page move of O.co Coliseum to Oakland Coliseum has been re-listed for another week, and thus may need input by participants here at WikiProject NBA.
At issue are WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMINGCRITERIA concerns that, if this move request passes, may eventually affect the naming of NBA arena articles: specifically whether to keep the current practice of renaming arena and stadium articles whenever there is a new sponsor (like renaming Rose Garden (arena) to Moda Center), or permanently keep them at long-term, stable names (like always keeping articles at, for example, the Oakland Coliseum Arena or Rose Garden (arena) titles instead of their current corporate titles) regardless of current or future changes to the naming rights. Please discuss at Talk:O.co Coliseum#Requested move 2. Thank you. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 03:16, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
This is a notice about Category:National Basketball Association articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock ( talk) 16:36, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Trey Burke/archive1 has been open for 2 and a half weeks without any substantive commentary.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:11, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
I'm just wondering how do I change them, I've been meaning to change Iowa Energy's one to one more according of their current team colours (you know, after being acquired by the Memphis Grizzlies). Intruder007 ( talk) 22:05, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
I always wondered why there was as much (if not more) speculative edits on players' jersey numbers as there was on their joining a new team. Apparently it's more than a WP phenomena. From Rockets' beat writer Jonathan Feigen: "As expected, for those that are apparently very into this sort of thing, Josh Smith will wear No. 5, his number with the Hawks." [8]
Is anyone willing to replace the nominator for 2014 NBA draft? The nominator hasn't been active for about 4 months, and it would be great for this project to get an 86th GA. Cheers! -- Brandon (MrWooHoo) • Talk to Brandon! 18:20, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
I think it would be good to from a list of sources aside from traditional newspapers and magazines that we generally consider reliable. I'd still say that sources like SB Nation and Bleacher Report are generally unreliable, but there are specific writers I think are reliable based on their track record, or the fact they are referenced in the mainstream. I'll start with a few I use off the top of my head:
— Bagumba ( talk) 19:41, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Manny Harris was the NBA D-League player of the week on December 22. He has missed the last two games and is no longer listed at the DLeague database, but he remains on on the D-fenders roster. I can find no explanation.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:45, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
There are some sports-related titles that you may find helpful at Wikipedia:McFarland. Sign up required.— Bagumba ( talk) 22:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
There is currently a proposal here to merge the "Infobox:WNBA player" template into the "Infobox:basketball biography" template (as has already been agreed to via the consensus process). Please weigh in on the proposal to make this happen. Thanks Rikster2 ( talk) 00:11, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
List of 40-plus point games by Carmelo Anthony was recently created. This led me to wonder what would be the notability criteria to determine
— Bagumba ( talk) 03:52, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia has lists on cricket players' centuries. Is this an equivalent thing? – H T D 12:35, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
I was aware of WP:OTHERSTUFF. My question is what is the notability criteria for determining which players should have these types of list. Would we have one for Kiki Vandeweghe, a two-time All-Star with 15 games of 40?— Bagumba ( talk) 17:48, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi all, I was aware of information from WP:OTHERSTUFF and WP:NOTSTATS. However, my opinion is that articles of players who are the most elite scorers in NBA history, such as Carmelo Anthony, Kobe Bryant, and LeBron James could have an article about 40-plus point games. They are notable for being the most elite scorers in NBA history. However, I do know that there is no exact standard about whether any of these can exist, so I would be okay if they were deleted (I created the article on LeBron and Carmelo). I would question it though because Kobe Bryant's 40 point article has existed for over four years. Robert4565 ( talk) 18:23, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi Bagumba,
I'm sorry about removing your comment, it was not intentional. In my opinion, I think the criteria would be only for players who accomplish a very notable career achievement with scoring in NBA history. For example, LeBron was the youngest to 20,000 [1] [2], indicating that he will have a lot of 40-plus point games in the future, possibly even more than Kobe. Kobe has received attention from the media for his 40-plus point games. [3] [4] [5]. In 2009, he was number 3 in most 40-plus point games by an NBA player. Now that I think about Carmelo's article, he's not as notable as the others with scoring and has not had as much media attention. I would vote to delete Carmelo's article, but LeBron's and Kobe should go through AFD process. Robert4565 ( talk) 03:41, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Bagumba, In my opinion, your example of Vandeweghe would not be considered elite enough because he has not received media attention for the amount of 40-plus point games he has had, nor will he likely be talked about by the media as an elite scorer. Robert4565 ( talk) 03:46, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Do any project members know of a way to get an updated photo of Quin Snyder? Anybody going to a Jazz game soon?
Strs2010, who has held himself out as having Snyder as a client (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 62#Quin Snyder article being censored by someone who claims Snyder as "client"), states that the current image is "personally offensive" to Snyder, yet he has refused to release a more satisfactory photo. Hence, I'm asking if anybody else can get a newer picture. — C.Fred ( talk) 00:42, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
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Could use some input at Talk:Donald_Sterling#Playoff_success. Thanks.— Bagumba ( talk) 18:36, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
Question - the current Charlotte Hornets team is keeping the entirety of its team history, from when it was the original Hornets through the Bobcats right? I see where someone created Category:Charlotte Hornets (1988-2002) back in May and I'm pretty sure this category shouldn't exist at all. If not, I'll CfD it and then ping WT:NBA with the discussion, I just want to make sure first. Jrcla2 ( talk) 11:52, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
As always seems to be the case with NBA.com stats links, the links to D-League players' stats have changed. As an editor's fix to Jeremy Lin shows, his link has changed from http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/jeremy_lin to http://stats.nbadleague.com/playerProfile.html?PlayerID=202391, the biggest problem being that the name is now transformed to a numerical ID and not an easy change in {{ basketballstats}}. Being that basketball-reference.com now includes D-League stats in their profiles for NBA players e.g. see "Full Record" link next to "D-League" near the top at Lin's b-r.com profile, should we just remove support from the template for NBA.com-provided D-League stats?— Bagumba ( talk) 02:30, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
There's been a few articles this offseason where a reliable source says a player/coach has agreed to a contract, and people go and update a bio's lead, infobox etc. with the new team info. However, the source doesn't say the contract was signed, and the team has not issued a press release. The most recent example is Byron Scott, who has confirmed an agreement with the Lakers. Or Chris Bosh, who most would accept is part of the Miami Heat now—even NBA.com's free agent tracker lists him with Miami—but there has been no press release yet, presumably since Miami will sign him last due to salary cap reasons. While I can see how neither Scott nor Bosh is "official", perhaps either side reneges and the contract isn't done, is it for all intents and purposes a done deal? Even if it's not, few editors will recognize the fine print, and has only led to edit wars. I'd suggest the best compromise is to live with changes once a player/coach acknowledges there is an agreement to sign. Open to other suggestions. I hope to summarize ideas here into Wikipedia:WikiProject Sports/Handling sports transactions, which is linked whenever anyone adds {{ current sports transaction}} to an article.— Bagumba ( talk) 01:21, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
I'd be fine with adding Miami back into Chris Bosh's infobox etc just to make it easier for when players stick with their original team. But take Wesley Johnson (basketball) for example. I had put the Lakers back into the infobox and lead because he had agreed to re-sign with the Lakers and to make it easier as pass-by views would just edit it anyway. However, just recently a user removed the Lakers from the infobox because "it's not official" – so even with this scenario, some people don't agree to add agreements to the article (which is technically correct). So if we make exceptions for Mike Miller well then we should make exceptions for all players i.e. Cartier Martin agreed to sign with the Pistons on July 1 and is still not official, Kent Bazemore etc. So for articles like Mike Miller and James Jones I say no, but for Chris Bosh or Wesley Johnson I say yes – purely because the latter two are sticking with their 2013–14 team. Miller and Jones are technically not Cavs players yet, simple as that – keep in mind though, it's still only July, so there's plenty of time yeah? DaHuzyBru ( talk) 04:30, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
I have one question about this. If a player agrees to terms with a team (for example Cartier Martin and the Pistons), can something about it be added to the body section? Something along the lines of, "On July 1, 2014, Martin agreed to terms with the Pistons, but has yet to sign an official contract." Something like that, but keep the infobox as saying "Free Agent". Thoughts? miamiheat631 talk 07:15, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
The previous discussion link at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association/Archive_23#Infobox_basketball_biography_needs_update_to_historical_profiles_link didn't generate any ideas for transforming IDs to NBA.com's new format for retired players. Since the links as currently coded don't work, I've deprecated the previous "nba_historical" parameter to {{ Basketballstats}}. If there is enough interest that people want to manually add the new urls to bios, I'd suggest that the new format be added into Basketballstats, instead of adding an EL on a separate line. However, since NBA.com is notorious for mucking around with url and not redirecting them, I'd suggest just living with basketball-reference.com and saving a lot of rework over time.— Bagumba ( talk) 08:24, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
There has been a lot of activity around Joel Embiid's number with the Sixers. The official site doesn't list numbers and some editors are adding the number 11 to Embiid's article - and in fact, the Sixers are selling a Joel Embiid #11 jersey ( see here) with no disclaimer that the number is not official. The issue has been that fellow rookie K. J. McDaniels wore #11 for the Sixers in Summer League ( see picture), so other editors insist that Embiid can't be #11. I recommend that the Embiid article be protected and a number left off until it officially posts on the Sixers' site (which is incredibly slow to update btw) and that the number be removed from McDaniels' article too for the same duration. Not sure what the Sixres' intention is but the franchise itself is sending mixed messages. Rikster2 ( talk) 17:53, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Jewels30: My thing here is that at the NBA Official Rookie Photo Shoot, Embiid was pictured wearing a #11 76ers jersey and McDaniels was pictured wearing a #14 76ers jersey. I know that on the NBA.com website nothing is listed but I think this is evidence enough to change Embiid's number to 11 and McDaniels number to 14. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jewels30 ( talk • contribs) 22:35, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone have access to NYC birth certificate records or death records? Check out this edit. I'm not sure whether to AGF it or to revert due to WP:V. Jrcla2 ( talk) 20:29, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
I know something almost exactly like this was discussed above, but a user insists on putting Solomon Hill's number as 44 and Damjan Rudez's as 9. The Pacers roster doesn't confirm this, nor do the player files. He gives the Pacers team store as a source but I don't know if that is reliable enough. A few years back, I changed some numbers on a Hawks roster template but they turned out to be completely wrong. If I'm being unreasonable here, feel free to tell me, but I just think we should wait for the season to start or an official announcement from the team. Thoughts? Miamiheat631 ( talk) 22:42, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
FYI George Banks (basketball) was recently created. I filled out his club histories to the best I could and added categories, but as of right now it's a one-sentence stub that could use expanding, if anyone feels inclined. Thanks! Jrcla2 ( talk) 15:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
On the page Toronto Raptors all-time roster we have Robert Archibald listed as from Scotland, but Pops Mensah-Bonsu as from the UK (who is from England) and they both played for team Great Britain internationally. What (if any) is the standard for listing these player's nationality? 18abruce ( talk) 15:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Recently, Special:Contributions/Vineelsai added the conference championships attained by certain players and coaches to their infoboxes. I think that these should not be included in the infoboxes, as there is enough clutter as is. I thought that there should be a discussion about it. What are others' thoughts on the matter? - Hoops gza ( talk) 01:54, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
On the page Toronto Raptors all-time roster we have Robert Archibald listed as from Scotland, but Pops Mensah-Bonsu as from the UK (who is from England) and they both played for team Great Britain internationally. What (if any) is the standard for listing these player's nationality? 18abruce ( talk) 15:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Recently, Special:Contributions/Vineelsai added the conference championships attained by certain players and coaches to their infoboxes. I think that these should not be included in the infoboxes, as there is enough clutter as is. I thought that there should be a discussion about it. What are others' thoughts on the matter? - Hoops gza ( talk) 01:54, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
On the page Toronto Raptors all-time roster we have Robert Archibald listed as from Scotland, but Pops Mensah-Bonsu as from the UK (who is from England) and they both played for team Great Britain internationally. What (if any) is the standard for listing these player's nationality? 18abruce ( talk) 15:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Recently, Special:Contributions/Vineelsai added the conference championships attained by certain players and coaches to their infoboxes. I think that these should not be included in the infoboxes, as there is enough clutter as is. I thought that there should be a discussion about it. What are others' thoughts on the matter? - Hoops gza ( talk) 01:54, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
On the page Toronto Raptors all-time roster we have Robert Archibald listed as from Scotland, but Pops Mensah-Bonsu as from the UK (who is from England) and they both played for team Great Britain internationally. What (if any) is the standard for listing these player's nationality? 18abruce ( talk) 15:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Recently, Special:Contributions/Vineelsai added the conference championships attained by certain players and coaches to their infoboxes. I think that these should not be included in the infoboxes, as there is enough clutter as is. I thought that there should be a discussion about it. What are others' thoughts on the matter? - Hoops gza ( talk) 01:54, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
On the page Toronto Raptors all-time roster we have Robert Archibald listed as from Scotland, but Pops Mensah-Bonsu as from the UK (who is from England) and they both played for team Great Britain internationally. What (if any) is the standard for listing these player's nationality? 18abruce ( talk) 15:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Recently, Special:Contributions/Vineelsai added the conference championships attained by certain players and coaches to their infoboxes. I think that these should not be included in the infoboxes, as there is enough clutter as is. I thought that there should be a discussion about it. What are others' thoughts on the matter? - Hoops gza ( talk) 01:54, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
As players are invited to training camp, we have now hit the second phase of premature transactions - adding teams to club history, team colors, etc. for these guys. Just a reminder that like Summer League participants, these folks have not made the rosters of these teams. I probably have limits for how much I want to police this, but it is that season again so I thought I would note it. As always, player categories should never be added until the player appears in a game Rikster2 ( talk) 15:16, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Miamiheat631, we have been over this type of thing before with the Steve Novak-Diante Garrett trade. It's not a done deal until the team announces it. See here, this reports that Prather has agreed to a non-guaranteed deal with the Suns, but until the Suns officially announce the signing via a press release (similar to this one by the Warriors), he is not a Sun and therefore we do not add this to his article – it is misleading and incorrect. The majority of teams announce their training camp signings in late September i.e. Sep 27–30, so until then, we wait. DaHuzyBru ( talk) 16:09, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
Can someone clarify why both Template:Cincinnati Royals seasons AND Template:Sacramento Kings seasons exist? It appears to me that the Sacramento Kings share the history of these franchises going all the way back to 1945–46 (see List of Sacramento Kings seasons, which has all of them listed). Should those 2 navboxes be condensed into just Template:Sacramento Kings seasons? Jrcla2 ( talk) 16:03, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Can an administrator do a histmerge for Tulsa 66ers and Oklahoma City NBA Development League Team? EvoPitz appeared to have performed a copy/paste move. Same applies to the team rosters. Zappa 24 Mati 23:20, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
I can see warring going on over the line McDonald's All-American Game MVP (2003) in LeBron James' infobox. T23tran has removed it a couple of times. PRwrestlinganalyst has added it a couple of times. I have even reverted on this issue. What is the consensus?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:26, 22 September 2014 (UTC)"
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You are invited to join a discussion on the listing of jersey numbers in former players' infoboxes at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball#Jersey_numbers_for_retired_players.— Bagumba ( talk) 01:17, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
If someone is selected in the NBA draft, but never plays a game, are they within the scope of this project? These players are already included in Category:National Basketball Association draft picks.— Bagumba ( talk) 16:43, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
There should be somewhere for people to list players who need stat tables. I know there are a lot of people who are extremely efficient at producing NBA/NBADL stat tables and I am not. Thus, I request assistance on the following articles:
Help appreciated.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:37, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
All - I want to get some measure of consensus around how all-league, all-conference, etc. is formatted. I believe that the convention of listing membership on one of the All-NBA, NBA All-Rookie, etc. teams as "All-NBA First Team" started with WP:NBA. I have a couple of issues with this practice. First, "first team" probably shouldn't be capitalized. It's not a title. Second, people are starting to take the convention to carry over to college awards, other pro league awards, etc. While "All-NBA first team" may be the correct form, "All-ACC first team" isn't. The (much) more common way of phrasing this would be "first team All-ACC." But I get the POV of trying to make it consistent. Personally, I think the form you'd see it in "real life" is what Wikipedia should reflect. Thoughts? Rikster2 ( talk) 16:41, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
There is a discussion underway about this category. Please give your opinion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 October 11#American men's basketball players. This category was created about a year ago and currently has about 60 articles in it (obviously very underpopulated). I would like to see strong representation from people who actually work basketball artices (and other similarly structured sports) weigh in as this would essentially signal a new category structure to be built and implemented (50 state-specific men's and 50 state-specific women's categories). There are pros and cons to the structure, but whatever your views I would like to ensure that the decision reached is one reached by robust dialogue and careful consideration. Especially as this did not occur the last time this category was CfD'ed. Thanks. Rikster2 ( talk) 17:33, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to propose that a player's infobox generally not list the organization(s) that issue similar honors, such as All-American. I don't think the average reader needs the detail in an infobox; it can be expanded in the body, or a standalone section with an exhaustive list of awards and issuing organizations can be created. There was a similar earlier discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association/Archive_24#Infobox_stylistics. For NBA players with many pro highlights listed, the practice at Wikipedia:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association/Article_guidelines#National_player_of_the_year has been to consolidate the various player of the year honors without listing the organization.
For a current AA example, Kyle Anderson (basketball) lists AP and TSN in his infoxbox, and the information is both in the body and in a standalone list in the article.— Bagumba ( talk) 20:09, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Would like to get others' opinions and avoid an edit war. User:Sportsgamaniacre has now twice moved Lakers–Clippers rivalry to Clippers–Lakers rivalry, citing personal preference for "alphabetical order". The last revert undid my change back to "Lakers–Clippers rivalry" based on WP:COMMONNAME. There are 50,000 hits for "Lakers–Clippers rivalry" versus 500 for "Clippers–Lakers rivalry". Sportsgamaniacre already used the same "alphabetize" rationale in a past RM request at Talk:Yankees–Red_Sox_rivalry#Rename_article, which failed due to COMMONNAME. I'll leave this up to consensus, but the user's warring history needs to cease, regardless of the outcome of this specific article.— Bagumba ( talk) 20:39, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
You are invited to take part in a discussion about this category at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 October 24#Sport players from Louisville, Kentucky. Rikster2 ( talk) 13:35, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi there. A recent requested page move of O.co Coliseum to Oakland Coliseum has been re-listed for another week, and thus may need input by participants here at WikiProject NBA.
At issue are WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMINGCRITERIA concerns that, if this move request passes, may eventually affect the naming of NBA arena articles: specifically whether to keep the current practice of renaming arena and stadium articles whenever there is a new sponsor (like renaming Rose Garden (arena) to Moda Center), or permanently keep them at long-term, stable names (like always keeping articles at, for example, the Oakland Coliseum Arena or Rose Garden (arena) titles instead of their current corporate titles) regardless of current or future changes to the naming rights. Please discuss at Talk:O.co Coliseum#Requested move 2. Thank you. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 03:16, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
This is a notice about Category:National Basketball Association articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock ( talk) 16:36, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Trey Burke/archive1 has been open for 2 and a half weeks without any substantive commentary.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:11, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
I'm just wondering how do I change them, I've been meaning to change Iowa Energy's one to one more according of their current team colours (you know, after being acquired by the Memphis Grizzlies). Intruder007 ( talk) 22:05, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
I always wondered why there was as much (if not more) speculative edits on players' jersey numbers as there was on their joining a new team. Apparently it's more than a WP phenomena. From Rockets' beat writer Jonathan Feigen: "As expected, for those that are apparently very into this sort of thing, Josh Smith will wear No. 5, his number with the Hawks." [8]
Is anyone willing to replace the nominator for 2014 NBA draft? The nominator hasn't been active for about 4 months, and it would be great for this project to get an 86th GA. Cheers! -- Brandon (MrWooHoo) • Talk to Brandon! 18:20, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
I think it would be good to from a list of sources aside from traditional newspapers and magazines that we generally consider reliable. I'd still say that sources like SB Nation and Bleacher Report are generally unreliable, but there are specific writers I think are reliable based on their track record, or the fact they are referenced in the mainstream. I'll start with a few I use off the top of my head:
— Bagumba ( talk) 19:41, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Manny Harris was the NBA D-League player of the week on December 22. He has missed the last two games and is no longer listed at the DLeague database, but he remains on on the D-fenders roster. I can find no explanation.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:45, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
There are some sports-related titles that you may find helpful at Wikipedia:McFarland. Sign up required.— Bagumba ( talk) 22:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
There is currently a proposal here to merge the "Infobox:WNBA player" template into the "Infobox:basketball biography" template (as has already been agreed to via the consensus process). Please weigh in on the proposal to make this happen. Thanks Rikster2 ( talk) 00:11, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
List of 40-plus point games by Carmelo Anthony was recently created. This led me to wonder what would be the notability criteria to determine
— Bagumba ( talk) 03:52, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia has lists on cricket players' centuries. Is this an equivalent thing? – H T D 12:35, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
I was aware of WP:OTHERSTUFF. My question is what is the notability criteria for determining which players should have these types of list. Would we have one for Kiki Vandeweghe, a two-time All-Star with 15 games of 40?— Bagumba ( talk) 17:48, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi all, I was aware of information from WP:OTHERSTUFF and WP:NOTSTATS. However, my opinion is that articles of players who are the most elite scorers in NBA history, such as Carmelo Anthony, Kobe Bryant, and LeBron James could have an article about 40-plus point games. They are notable for being the most elite scorers in NBA history. However, I do know that there is no exact standard about whether any of these can exist, so I would be okay if they were deleted (I created the article on LeBron and Carmelo). I would question it though because Kobe Bryant's 40 point article has existed for over four years. Robert4565 ( talk) 18:23, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi Bagumba,
I'm sorry about removing your comment, it was not intentional. In my opinion, I think the criteria would be only for players who accomplish a very notable career achievement with scoring in NBA history. For example, LeBron was the youngest to 20,000 [1] [2], indicating that he will have a lot of 40-plus point games in the future, possibly even more than Kobe. Kobe has received attention from the media for his 40-plus point games. [3] [4] [5]. In 2009, he was number 3 in most 40-plus point games by an NBA player. Now that I think about Carmelo's article, he's not as notable as the others with scoring and has not had as much media attention. I would vote to delete Carmelo's article, but LeBron's and Kobe should go through AFD process. Robert4565 ( talk) 03:41, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Bagumba, In my opinion, your example of Vandeweghe would not be considered elite enough because he has not received media attention for the amount of 40-plus point games he has had, nor will he likely be talked about by the media as an elite scorer. Robert4565 ( talk) 03:46, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Do any project members know of a way to get an updated photo of Quin Snyder? Anybody going to a Jazz game soon?
Strs2010, who has held himself out as having Snyder as a client (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 62#Quin Snyder article being censored by someone who claims Snyder as "client"), states that the current image is "personally offensive" to Snyder, yet he has refused to release a more satisfactory photo. Hence, I'm asking if anybody else can get a newer picture. — C.Fred ( talk) 00:42, 9 January 2015 (UTC)