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I am curious to know what other LGBT editors feel about seeing the image on the right on a (presumably straight) admin's talk page, as part of banter. Comments welcome. PaleCloudedWhite ( talk) 21:58, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Now that Ritchie333 has defended their derogatory use of the word on their talk page as "silly banter" a few things can be said with clarity:
There have been three complaints raised on Ritchie333's talk page in the last day User_talk:Ritchie333#Question_2. The complaints have been civil, in fact they have been complimentary of Ritchie333's contributions to the project as an administrator. However no amount of good work on the project as a trusted administrator should be an excuse to use talk pages to deride or defame LGBT+ people. Should Richie333 fail to address this problem within a few more days, I propose that this becomes an Arbcom case in order to establish, with no ambiguity, that deriding homosexuals with offensive language is taken by this project as seriously as we would a case of deriding groups of people based on their faith or race. Defending it as "silly banter" and refusing to remove the text, should not be accepted as an excuse as it sets a nasty precedent that if an administrator can behave this way, we can expect no more of any other contributor. -- Fæ ( talk) 08:41, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
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I have twice collapsed use of the F-word on this noticeboard. It cannot be imagined to be anything other than ( Personal attack removed). The F-word is unacceptable on this noticeboard or anywhere else on Wikipedia unless when in unambiguously legitimate use for an article. It should be considered no less offensive and defamatory than using the N-word. The excuse that it is being used as a self-description is not acceptable as Wikipedia is a project where editors act anonymously, and anyone that wanted to troll other users would use this as a means to publish disruptive descriptions of minority groups in any discussion.
Rather than uncollapsing the above section, if anyone objects they should create a Request for Comment so the community can decide if we are going to change accepted practice, allow the use of the F-word and ignore complaints from people who may find it personally offensive and hostile when in gratuitous use on talk pages.
A second un-collapse so that the F-word becomes visible again, should be considered edit-warring in an attempt to cause serious non-collegiate disruption to this noticeboard, as well as a significant breach of WP:NDP and can be reported as such.
Thanks -- Fæ ( talk) 19:06, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
I have never heard of someone seriously self-identifying using the three letter F-word.Words fail. This is laughable. You think you know something about gays? What planet are you from? E Eng 22:50, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
I just created a new stub for Red dress party. I know this event takes place annually in many cities, but I started the article using the first reliable secondary sources returned via Google search. Project members are invited to help expand, thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:22, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
Feel free to expand Beirut Pride, a stub I've just created about the first LGBT pride parade in the Arab World! Zigzig20s ( talk) 00:52, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
Someone with experience writing non-free use rationales may like to review the use of two images recently removed by a bot from the article and, if the images qualify, write some. Rivertorch FIRE WATER 15:30, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
I'd appreciate more eyes on this article, specifically with regard to the appropriateness of the repeated addition of content the lede. Rivertorch FIRE WATER 17:46, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Bump. Rivertorch FIRE WATER 02:47, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure the AfD has been initiated for multiple articles successfully, but I created some stubs for 4 RuPaul contestants, and they were all nominated for deletion: Nina Bo'nina Brown, Trinity Taylor, Valentina (drag queen), and Sasha Velour. I wasn't really given any time to expand these articles. You can view the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valentina (drag queen) (2nd nomination). --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:07, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
LGBT culture in Vancouver has been nominated for deletion, if project members wish to help improve the article or participate in the AfD discussion. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 23:35, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
The Fahad Al Kubaisi includes a category related to bisexuality, but the article's prose does not mention LGBT. See Talk:Fahad Al Kubaisi for an ongoing discussion about whether or not this category should be removed. Thanks, --- Another Believer ( Talk) 20:05, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
The Pangender article has been nominated for deletion. Funcrunch ( talk) 14:30, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
You are invited to join us for Wikipedia at World Pride Madrid 2017, a Wikimedia Spain event where volunteers are invited to discuss and create content about lgbt issues during the world pride in Madrid 2017. Participants are also welcome to take photographs of the world pride in Madrid to later publish them on Wikimedia commons. We will participate in the opening event the inauguration at the Matadero. We will also visit Pride Park. Lastly we will visit the human rights summit at campus of Cantoblanco of the autonomous university of Madrid.
Accommodation will be provided by Wikimedia Spain. The venue where participants will be able to edit and upload pictures will be the Medialab-Prado. Travel costs for flights will most likely be paid by the respective home branches of the participants.
Wikipedia for Peace is a movement that has been active since 2015. We want to publish articles on issues related to peace and also help to create a more welcoming community.
In light of persistent, deliberate misgendering of nonbinary people (some of whom identify as genderqueer) in Wikipedia articles, and the recent RfC on same which failed to gain consensus, I have drafted a MOS-NB template to complement the existing MOS-TW and MOS-TM templates for trans women and men. I invite constructive feedback, respecting that this draft is in my userspace and I myself am agender and prefer singular they pronouns. Thank you. Funcrunch ( talk) 14:29, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks to those who gave feedback. The template is now live at Template:MOS-NB. I've already added it to the talk pages of several non-binary BLPs. Funcrunch ( talk) 17:58, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I'm currently engaged in a dispute about the wording of the lead of the Conversion therapy article. I'd welcome the comments of interested editors whatever their views. See the discussion at Talk:Conversion_therapy#.22not_discussed.22_revert. FreeKnowledgeCreator ( talk) 01:48, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
I'd like to update the style advice on the project page at WP:GAY?. As it is currently written, it gives the impression that homosexual should be preferred over gay in all historical contexts. Instead, I think it should note that while there are some historical contexts where it may be preferable to use homosexual, it is also a relatively modern word and its use can be anachronistic as well. The wording I would suggest (instead of the sentence that begins "For historical articles ...") is:
From Epistemology of the Closet by Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick: "There is, I believe, no satisfactory rule for choosing between the usages 'homosexual' and 'gay,' outside of a post-Stonewall context where 'gay' must be preferable since it is the explicit choice of a large number of the people to whom it refers. Until recently it seemed that 'homosexual,' though it severely risked anachronism in any application before the late nineteenth century, was still somehow less temporally circumscribed than 'gay,' perhaps because it sounded more official, not to say diagnostic. That aura of timelessness about the word has, however, faded rapidly — less because of the word's manifest inadequacy to the cognitive and behavioral maps of the centuries before its coining, than because the sources of its authority for the century after have seemed increasingly tendentious and dated. Thus 'homosexual' and 'gay' seem more and more to be terms applicable to distinct, nonoverlapping periods in the history of a phenomenon for which there then remains no overarching label." Thoughts?-- Trystan ( talk) 14:06, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
Could use more eyes on An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code where there is a dispute over the description of the proposed legislation (regarding gender identity and expression). Funcrunch ( talk) 17:12, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
This newly-created article ( Knock Out (Transformers: Prime)) says "he" is gay. Is sourcing for this claim appropriate? If not, should the claim be removed? If so, should LGBT-related categories be added, and should the WikiProject LGBT studies banner be added to the article's talk page? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 21:00, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Citation overkill#Should this essay be changed to encourage more citations?. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 01:49, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
The fourth annual Wiki Loves Pride campaign, which seeks to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects, is being held during the month of June. Project members are invited to add their new and improved content here. WikiProject Women in Red is supporting the campaign again this year. You can learn more information here. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:45, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
*bump* Just a reminder about the ongoing Wiki Loves Pride campaign, which runs through the end of June. If you've created or improved any LGBT-related articles recently, please feel free to show off your work here: Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Pride 2017/Results. Or, just note your work here and I'd be happy to update the list accordingly. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 23:39, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Category:LGBT writers from the United States has over 1,400 entries. Would creating subcategories by U.S. state by helpful? Ditto Category:LGBT entertainers from the United States. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:21, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
@ Koavf: I know you do a lot of category work. Do you have an opinion or recommendation? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:13, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Do any project members have a sense as to whether or not moving
Draft:National Pride March into the main space would be appropriate? I see some upcoming events are being billed as "in conjunction with the National Pride March", but this event doesn't seem to have as much preceding press coverage as some other recent national (U.S.) protests. ---
Another Believer (
Talk)
02:16, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
A task force of WikiProject novels, WP:RRTF, has a draft in progress for a book which contains a gender-fluid character. There's been some discussion about how to describe the character, as they make a point in the books of discouraging the use of "they" or "she/he". Does anybody know of a policy to guide us? Or an example? Please leave suggestions on Draft talk:The Hammer of Thor. Thanks! -- 2ReinreB2 ( talk) 22:53, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
A situation is happening in List of LGBT characters in television and radio that needs scrutiny. Characters that were previously included in other sexual orientation sections have been transferred to Pansexual or deleted by one editor. I am not singularly qualified to know all the television series characters that are factually pansexual. I restored deleted bisexual characters only to have them deleted again by same editor. I just re-restored one, Maggie Lin from Saving Hope. Are there other editors with knowledge about pansexual characters seen on TV? Are the recent edits involving the Pansexual section correct? What is to be done about the deleted characters? Input about, and attention to, this situation would be appreciated. Pyxis Solitary ( talk) 05:26, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
I added the WikiProject LGBT studies banner to the Oscar Wilde Memorial Sculpture article's talk page, which was removed by another editor. Not a huge deal, but do project members think the article is relevant to this project? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:15, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Trans woman#Recent change to the lead sentence. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 05:06, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm from NYC and I just happened to be looking to see who has the largest event so I was on the "List of largest LGBT events" page. I would have thought NYC or San Francisco. SF is on the list but NYC isn't? That doesn't make sense at all. I don't want to edit it for a number of reasons. There's the "coordinator" column and authorities. I thought the cited sources would be either the organizer webpage or government but I saw news articles listed as sources so I would have thought my link would have been allowed but then everything is in order which means there would have to be all sorts of footnote edits in order to put NY in it's place and I have no clue how to do this. This is an article which mentions a figure for attendance though the article doesn't cite where it got the 2 million from. Maybe that's why it wasn't used. Like I said, NYC is supposed to be on that list somewhere for sure. Cpossert ( talk) 06:07, 17 June 2017 (UTC)cpossert [1]
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There is a discussion on the Chelsea Manning talk page about repeated edits on there questioning/denying trans identity (despite a FAQ on the page), and what to do about them. Funcrunch ( talk) 13:45, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
During the Stockholm Pride week we ( Wikimedia Sverige, Swedish History Museum, LSH sv, Nationalmuseum, Upplandsmuseet and The Unstraight Museum sv) are hosting an edit-a-thon/Wiki workshop, and for that I would like to have some input on articles to work with. It could be both translations between Swedish and English of missing articles or articles that needs updates or expansions, or topics related to Sweden that you find within scope of this project. Feel free to add articles or topics to the list on the page (or talk page) for the edit-a-thon, or here for me to move there. Thanks in advance. / Axel Pettersson (WMSE) ( talk) 15:26, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi, everyone. I need for someone to peer review, check, and reevaluate the article Cross dressing ball. It's a translation form Spanish, and English is not even my second language, so expect some strange sh...things. I'd be very thankful if someone takes the time to polish, and imporve the article. -- Ecelan ( talk) 11:19, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
I am organizing an editathon on July 8th in Northridge, California. We will be focusing on LGBT Scientist, Technicians/Technologists, Engineers and Mathematicians. If anyone has ideas for contributions or wants to join us please do! CSUN Queer STEM Edit-a-thon Asteres ( talk) 22:02, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
Announcing new article Transgender legal history in the United States, which is a move of about 68kb of content from History of transgender people in the United States to the new article, in a size split. Additional refactoring and section re-org may be needed in both articles, as well as other cleanup to complete the split. You are invited to contribute. Mathglot ( talk) 09:02, 28 June 2017 (UTC) updated by Mathglot ( talk) 01:44, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
There's a conversation about pronouns here that could use participation by editors with a clue. David in DC ( talk) 16:19, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi! A student created the article LGBT Life in Guatemala last semester, but it has several issues, one of which is that it's written more like an essay than an article. I do think that this topic deserves to be on Wikipedia, but this needs a lot of work to really fit guidelines. Would anyone here be interested in taking this article under their wing? I'd like to work on it and will try to go back to it, but I don't know when I'd get the chance to do this and I don't want it to be deleted without it receiving a good fighting chance at being fixed. Shalor (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 02:15, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lead section#Request for comment on parenthetical information in first sentence. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 05:11, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I was suggested to ask here after raising a question in the IRC channel :) There is a back-and-forth of edits on the page for Peppermint (drag queen), specifically regarding whether or not her birth name should be listed (Peppermint is the drag persona of a trans woman). Any feedback from you in the talk page Talk:Peppermint_(drag_queen) as to how to interpret MOS:BIRTHNAME and how strictly it should be applied would be appreciated. Best! Umimmak ( talk) 22:47, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Philippa York has publicly announced today that she has changed gender. York was famous as Robert Millar, a British professional racing cyclist in the 1980s and 1990s who won the 'King of the Mountains' classification at the 1984 Tour de France, and is one of Britain's most successful racing cyclists. She 'disappeared' from public life during the 2000s following hostile newspaper reports that she was living as a woman, but has continued to write as a journalist under the name of Robert Millar until today (you'll find articles published as Robert Millar dating to July 2017).
I've attempted to rewrite her article to take into account her gender transition, but I'd appreciate someone casting an eye over this. Almost all of York's notable activities have taken place as Robert Millar so this identity needs to remain on the page: I've attempted to write with a balance reflecting this but I'm sure I've made mistakes so please do look over it! -- Super Nintendo Chalmers ( talk) 11:05, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
This is probably not best place to post this, but... I figured it was the right crowd anyway. So, when you poke around human sexuality articles, you see a lot of really high quality images like this, but (and I've been poking around for a few minutes now), it's all white people doing sex things, and using this image as an example, it's used on like 30 different language projects. So... what's the best route to get like, literally a single black person, or southeast Asian, or... you know, the actual human race? The person who created them seems to be retired, and they are all good images, so I'm guessing we need to find someone with some photoshop skills. Any takers? Suggestions? TimothyJosephWood 21:56, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
I've created Category:LGBT-related media by genre. Requesting assistance with population/subcategorizing. I was thinking something like the setup of Category:LGBT-related films by genre, but for all media types. Oornery ( talk) 23:23, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
Your feedback is requested at Talk:International Transgender Day of Remembrance#Article move without consensus. Mathglot ( talk) 07:21, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
I came across the article for the film Butch Mystique in PROD, listed as such because of failing WP:NFILM. I just wondered if anyone here might test whether that's the case or not, as my very preliminary search turned up a few references such as this, which hint that the necessary sources for this do exist. Landscape repton ( talk) 11:49, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
I started the discussion about the infobox used at A Young Man's World. Join in discussion. -- George Ho ( talk) 22:02, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
As I stated before at Talk:Femme, I intend to merge this article with the Butch and femme article. I also intend to downsize it before merging it. There continues to be issues with the article and there continues to be POV-pushing at the article, such as this recent edit stating that "This is a lesbian specific term. I've taken out bisexual as it erases the history of how it formed from lesbians. Femme should only be used for lesbians and by lesbians." Yes, we know how the term originated, but the term is used by the broader LGBT community as well these days. If anyone has any opinions on merging this article and/or how to improve this article, now is the time. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 12:20, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Elijah Daniel is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elijah Daniel (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Sagecandor ( talk) 04:21, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
There's an edit war developing on Discrimination against non-binary gender persons over the insertion of text regarding the term "phobia". Discussion on talk page. Funcrunch ( talk) 19:47, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Category:Genderqueer people, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Funcrunch ( talk) 21:08, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
See my comments at Talk:The Federalist (website). This and groups such as Alliance Defending Freedom need attantion. Doug Weller talk 12:03, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
"Brig. Gen. Kristin Goodwin to assume command of cadet wing" at the US Air Force Academy. [1] Trump nominated her! She has a wife and two children [2] and, no surprise, is already having problems. [3] Doug Weller talk 16:28, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
There is an ongoing Request for Comment about whether to include a petition started by Elijah Daniel in the article about him, which was a White House petition to make Party in the U.S.A. the national anthem.
You may comment, if you wish, at: Talk:Elijah_Daniel#RfC_about_White_House_petition_to_make_Party_in_the_USA_the_national_anthem. Sagecandor ( talk) 18:52, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I am curious to know what other LGBT editors feel about seeing the image on the right on a (presumably straight) admin's talk page, as part of banter. Comments welcome. PaleCloudedWhite ( talk) 21:58, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Now that Ritchie333 has defended their derogatory use of the word on their talk page as "silly banter" a few things can be said with clarity:
There have been three complaints raised on Ritchie333's talk page in the last day User_talk:Ritchie333#Question_2. The complaints have been civil, in fact they have been complimentary of Ritchie333's contributions to the project as an administrator. However no amount of good work on the project as a trusted administrator should be an excuse to use talk pages to deride or defame LGBT+ people. Should Richie333 fail to address this problem within a few more days, I propose that this becomes an Arbcom case in order to establish, with no ambiguity, that deriding homosexuals with offensive language is taken by this project as seriously as we would a case of deriding groups of people based on their faith or race. Defending it as "silly banter" and refusing to remove the text, should not be accepted as an excuse as it sets a nasty precedent that if an administrator can behave this way, we can expect no more of any other contributor. -- Fæ ( talk) 08:41, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
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I have twice collapsed use of the F-word on this noticeboard. It cannot be imagined to be anything other than ( Personal attack removed). The F-word is unacceptable on this noticeboard or anywhere else on Wikipedia unless when in unambiguously legitimate use for an article. It should be considered no less offensive and defamatory than using the N-word. The excuse that it is being used as a self-description is not acceptable as Wikipedia is a project where editors act anonymously, and anyone that wanted to troll other users would use this as a means to publish disruptive descriptions of minority groups in any discussion.
Rather than uncollapsing the above section, if anyone objects they should create a Request for Comment so the community can decide if we are going to change accepted practice, allow the use of the F-word and ignore complaints from people who may find it personally offensive and hostile when in gratuitous use on talk pages.
A second un-collapse so that the F-word becomes visible again, should be considered edit-warring in an attempt to cause serious non-collegiate disruption to this noticeboard, as well as a significant breach of WP:NDP and can be reported as such.
Thanks -- Fæ ( talk) 19:06, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
I have never heard of someone seriously self-identifying using the three letter F-word.Words fail. This is laughable. You think you know something about gays? What planet are you from? E Eng 22:50, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
I just created a new stub for Red dress party. I know this event takes place annually in many cities, but I started the article using the first reliable secondary sources returned via Google search. Project members are invited to help expand, thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:22, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
Feel free to expand Beirut Pride, a stub I've just created about the first LGBT pride parade in the Arab World! Zigzig20s ( talk) 00:52, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
Someone with experience writing non-free use rationales may like to review the use of two images recently removed by a bot from the article and, if the images qualify, write some. Rivertorch FIRE WATER 15:30, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
I'd appreciate more eyes on this article, specifically with regard to the appropriateness of the repeated addition of content the lede. Rivertorch FIRE WATER 17:46, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Bump. Rivertorch FIRE WATER 02:47, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure the AfD has been initiated for multiple articles successfully, but I created some stubs for 4 RuPaul contestants, and they were all nominated for deletion: Nina Bo'nina Brown, Trinity Taylor, Valentina (drag queen), and Sasha Velour. I wasn't really given any time to expand these articles. You can view the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valentina (drag queen) (2nd nomination). --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:07, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
LGBT culture in Vancouver has been nominated for deletion, if project members wish to help improve the article or participate in the AfD discussion. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 23:35, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
The Fahad Al Kubaisi includes a category related to bisexuality, but the article's prose does not mention LGBT. See Talk:Fahad Al Kubaisi for an ongoing discussion about whether or not this category should be removed. Thanks, --- Another Believer ( Talk) 20:05, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
The Pangender article has been nominated for deletion. Funcrunch ( talk) 14:30, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
You are invited to join us for Wikipedia at World Pride Madrid 2017, a Wikimedia Spain event where volunteers are invited to discuss and create content about lgbt issues during the world pride in Madrid 2017. Participants are also welcome to take photographs of the world pride in Madrid to later publish them on Wikimedia commons. We will participate in the opening event the inauguration at the Matadero. We will also visit Pride Park. Lastly we will visit the human rights summit at campus of Cantoblanco of the autonomous university of Madrid.
Accommodation will be provided by Wikimedia Spain. The venue where participants will be able to edit and upload pictures will be the Medialab-Prado. Travel costs for flights will most likely be paid by the respective home branches of the participants.
Wikipedia for Peace is a movement that has been active since 2015. We want to publish articles on issues related to peace and also help to create a more welcoming community.
In light of persistent, deliberate misgendering of nonbinary people (some of whom identify as genderqueer) in Wikipedia articles, and the recent RfC on same which failed to gain consensus, I have drafted a MOS-NB template to complement the existing MOS-TW and MOS-TM templates for trans women and men. I invite constructive feedback, respecting that this draft is in my userspace and I myself am agender and prefer singular they pronouns. Thank you. Funcrunch ( talk) 14:29, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks to those who gave feedback. The template is now live at Template:MOS-NB. I've already added it to the talk pages of several non-binary BLPs. Funcrunch ( talk) 17:58, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I'm currently engaged in a dispute about the wording of the lead of the Conversion therapy article. I'd welcome the comments of interested editors whatever their views. See the discussion at Talk:Conversion_therapy#.22not_discussed.22_revert. FreeKnowledgeCreator ( talk) 01:48, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
I'd like to update the style advice on the project page at WP:GAY?. As it is currently written, it gives the impression that homosexual should be preferred over gay in all historical contexts. Instead, I think it should note that while there are some historical contexts where it may be preferable to use homosexual, it is also a relatively modern word and its use can be anachronistic as well. The wording I would suggest (instead of the sentence that begins "For historical articles ...") is:
From Epistemology of the Closet by Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick: "There is, I believe, no satisfactory rule for choosing between the usages 'homosexual' and 'gay,' outside of a post-Stonewall context where 'gay' must be preferable since it is the explicit choice of a large number of the people to whom it refers. Until recently it seemed that 'homosexual,' though it severely risked anachronism in any application before the late nineteenth century, was still somehow less temporally circumscribed than 'gay,' perhaps because it sounded more official, not to say diagnostic. That aura of timelessness about the word has, however, faded rapidly — less because of the word's manifest inadequacy to the cognitive and behavioral maps of the centuries before its coining, than because the sources of its authority for the century after have seemed increasingly tendentious and dated. Thus 'homosexual' and 'gay' seem more and more to be terms applicable to distinct, nonoverlapping periods in the history of a phenomenon for which there then remains no overarching label." Thoughts?-- Trystan ( talk) 14:06, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
Could use more eyes on An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code where there is a dispute over the description of the proposed legislation (regarding gender identity and expression). Funcrunch ( talk) 17:12, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
This newly-created article ( Knock Out (Transformers: Prime)) says "he" is gay. Is sourcing for this claim appropriate? If not, should the claim be removed? If so, should LGBT-related categories be added, and should the WikiProject LGBT studies banner be added to the article's talk page? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 21:00, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Citation overkill#Should this essay be changed to encourage more citations?. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 01:49, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
The fourth annual Wiki Loves Pride campaign, which seeks to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects, is being held during the month of June. Project members are invited to add their new and improved content here. WikiProject Women in Red is supporting the campaign again this year. You can learn more information here. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:45, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
*bump* Just a reminder about the ongoing Wiki Loves Pride campaign, which runs through the end of June. If you've created or improved any LGBT-related articles recently, please feel free to show off your work here: Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Pride 2017/Results. Or, just note your work here and I'd be happy to update the list accordingly. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 23:39, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Category:LGBT writers from the United States has over 1,400 entries. Would creating subcategories by U.S. state by helpful? Ditto Category:LGBT entertainers from the United States. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:21, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
@ Koavf: I know you do a lot of category work. Do you have an opinion or recommendation? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:13, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Do any project members have a sense as to whether or not moving
Draft:National Pride March into the main space would be appropriate? I see some upcoming events are being billed as "in conjunction with the National Pride March", but this event doesn't seem to have as much preceding press coverage as some other recent national (U.S.) protests. ---
Another Believer (
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02:16, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
A task force of WikiProject novels, WP:RRTF, has a draft in progress for a book which contains a gender-fluid character. There's been some discussion about how to describe the character, as they make a point in the books of discouraging the use of "they" or "she/he". Does anybody know of a policy to guide us? Or an example? Please leave suggestions on Draft talk:The Hammer of Thor. Thanks! -- 2ReinreB2 ( talk) 22:53, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
A situation is happening in List of LGBT characters in television and radio that needs scrutiny. Characters that were previously included in other sexual orientation sections have been transferred to Pansexual or deleted by one editor. I am not singularly qualified to know all the television series characters that are factually pansexual. I restored deleted bisexual characters only to have them deleted again by same editor. I just re-restored one, Maggie Lin from Saving Hope. Are there other editors with knowledge about pansexual characters seen on TV? Are the recent edits involving the Pansexual section correct? What is to be done about the deleted characters? Input about, and attention to, this situation would be appreciated. Pyxis Solitary ( talk) 05:26, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
I added the WikiProject LGBT studies banner to the Oscar Wilde Memorial Sculpture article's talk page, which was removed by another editor. Not a huge deal, but do project members think the article is relevant to this project? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:15, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Trans woman#Recent change to the lead sentence. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 05:06, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm from NYC and I just happened to be looking to see who has the largest event so I was on the "List of largest LGBT events" page. I would have thought NYC or San Francisco. SF is on the list but NYC isn't? That doesn't make sense at all. I don't want to edit it for a number of reasons. There's the "coordinator" column and authorities. I thought the cited sources would be either the organizer webpage or government but I saw news articles listed as sources so I would have thought my link would have been allowed but then everything is in order which means there would have to be all sorts of footnote edits in order to put NY in it's place and I have no clue how to do this. This is an article which mentions a figure for attendance though the article doesn't cite where it got the 2 million from. Maybe that's why it wasn't used. Like I said, NYC is supposed to be on that list somewhere for sure. Cpossert ( talk) 06:07, 17 June 2017 (UTC)cpossert [1]
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There is a discussion on the Chelsea Manning talk page about repeated edits on there questioning/denying trans identity (despite a FAQ on the page), and what to do about them. Funcrunch ( talk) 13:45, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
During the Stockholm Pride week we ( Wikimedia Sverige, Swedish History Museum, LSH sv, Nationalmuseum, Upplandsmuseet and The Unstraight Museum sv) are hosting an edit-a-thon/Wiki workshop, and for that I would like to have some input on articles to work with. It could be both translations between Swedish and English of missing articles or articles that needs updates or expansions, or topics related to Sweden that you find within scope of this project. Feel free to add articles or topics to the list on the page (or talk page) for the edit-a-thon, or here for me to move there. Thanks in advance. / Axel Pettersson (WMSE) ( talk) 15:26, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi, everyone. I need for someone to peer review, check, and reevaluate the article Cross dressing ball. It's a translation form Spanish, and English is not even my second language, so expect some strange sh...things. I'd be very thankful if someone takes the time to polish, and imporve the article. -- Ecelan ( talk) 11:19, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
I am organizing an editathon on July 8th in Northridge, California. We will be focusing on LGBT Scientist, Technicians/Technologists, Engineers and Mathematicians. If anyone has ideas for contributions or wants to join us please do! CSUN Queer STEM Edit-a-thon Asteres ( talk) 22:02, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
Announcing new article Transgender legal history in the United States, which is a move of about 68kb of content from History of transgender people in the United States to the new article, in a size split. Additional refactoring and section re-org may be needed in both articles, as well as other cleanup to complete the split. You are invited to contribute. Mathglot ( talk) 09:02, 28 June 2017 (UTC) updated by Mathglot ( talk) 01:44, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
There's a conversation about pronouns here that could use participation by editors with a clue. David in DC ( talk) 16:19, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi! A student created the article LGBT Life in Guatemala last semester, but it has several issues, one of which is that it's written more like an essay than an article. I do think that this topic deserves to be on Wikipedia, but this needs a lot of work to really fit guidelines. Would anyone here be interested in taking this article under their wing? I'd like to work on it and will try to go back to it, but I don't know when I'd get the chance to do this and I don't want it to be deleted without it receiving a good fighting chance at being fixed. Shalor (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 02:15, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lead section#Request for comment on parenthetical information in first sentence. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 05:11, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I was suggested to ask here after raising a question in the IRC channel :) There is a back-and-forth of edits on the page for Peppermint (drag queen), specifically regarding whether or not her birth name should be listed (Peppermint is the drag persona of a trans woman). Any feedback from you in the talk page Talk:Peppermint_(drag_queen) as to how to interpret MOS:BIRTHNAME and how strictly it should be applied would be appreciated. Best! Umimmak ( talk) 22:47, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Philippa York has publicly announced today that she has changed gender. York was famous as Robert Millar, a British professional racing cyclist in the 1980s and 1990s who won the 'King of the Mountains' classification at the 1984 Tour de France, and is one of Britain's most successful racing cyclists. She 'disappeared' from public life during the 2000s following hostile newspaper reports that she was living as a woman, but has continued to write as a journalist under the name of Robert Millar until today (you'll find articles published as Robert Millar dating to July 2017).
I've attempted to rewrite her article to take into account her gender transition, but I'd appreciate someone casting an eye over this. Almost all of York's notable activities have taken place as Robert Millar so this identity needs to remain on the page: I've attempted to write with a balance reflecting this but I'm sure I've made mistakes so please do look over it! -- Super Nintendo Chalmers ( talk) 11:05, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
This is probably not best place to post this, but... I figured it was the right crowd anyway. So, when you poke around human sexuality articles, you see a lot of really high quality images like this, but (and I've been poking around for a few minutes now), it's all white people doing sex things, and using this image as an example, it's used on like 30 different language projects. So... what's the best route to get like, literally a single black person, or southeast Asian, or... you know, the actual human race? The person who created them seems to be retired, and they are all good images, so I'm guessing we need to find someone with some photoshop skills. Any takers? Suggestions? TimothyJosephWood 21:56, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
I've created Category:LGBT-related media by genre. Requesting assistance with population/subcategorizing. I was thinking something like the setup of Category:LGBT-related films by genre, but for all media types. Oornery ( talk) 23:23, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
Your feedback is requested at Talk:International Transgender Day of Remembrance#Article move without consensus. Mathglot ( talk) 07:21, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
I came across the article for the film Butch Mystique in PROD, listed as such because of failing WP:NFILM. I just wondered if anyone here might test whether that's the case or not, as my very preliminary search turned up a few references such as this, which hint that the necessary sources for this do exist. Landscape repton ( talk) 11:49, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
I started the discussion about the infobox used at A Young Man's World. Join in discussion. -- George Ho ( talk) 22:02, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
As I stated before at Talk:Femme, I intend to merge this article with the Butch and femme article. I also intend to downsize it before merging it. There continues to be issues with the article and there continues to be POV-pushing at the article, such as this recent edit stating that "This is a lesbian specific term. I've taken out bisexual as it erases the history of how it formed from lesbians. Femme should only be used for lesbians and by lesbians." Yes, we know how the term originated, but the term is used by the broader LGBT community as well these days. If anyone has any opinions on merging this article and/or how to improve this article, now is the time. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 12:20, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Elijah Daniel is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elijah Daniel (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Sagecandor ( talk) 04:21, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
There's an edit war developing on Discrimination against non-binary gender persons over the insertion of text regarding the term "phobia". Discussion on talk page. Funcrunch ( talk) 19:47, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Category:Genderqueer people, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Funcrunch ( talk) 21:08, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
See my comments at Talk:The Federalist (website). This and groups such as Alliance Defending Freedom need attantion. Doug Weller talk 12:03, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
"Brig. Gen. Kristin Goodwin to assume command of cadet wing" at the US Air Force Academy. [1] Trump nominated her! She has a wife and two children [2] and, no surprise, is already having problems. [3] Doug Weller talk 16:28, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
There is an ongoing Request for Comment about whether to include a petition started by Elijah Daniel in the article about him, which was a White House petition to make Party in the U.S.A. the national anthem.
You may comment, if you wish, at: Talk:Elijah_Daniel#RfC_about_White_House_petition_to_make_Party_in_the_USA_the_national_anthem. Sagecandor ( talk) 18:52, 21 July 2017 (UTC)