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Looks like I'm following you around - I didn't know ya'll went to Rice too! We should all meet up to talk about our goals for the page so we can coordinate a bit and not step on eachother's toes.
I also would like to edit the current Wikipedia page on "Corrective Rape" because it is a world-wide phenomenon that affects many lesbian, transgender, bisexual, and gender-queer women. The current article is a stub and only addresses a very small portion of the issue, focusing almost entirely on its manifestation in South Africa and its effect on lesbians. This issue is prevalent in many parts of the world, including highly industrialized or developed nations. Indeed, the very existence of this phenomenon indirectly affects all women, especially those that do not conform (either by choice or not) to the normative gender role for women in their community, through the atmosphere of fear and intimidation that it creates. All of this begs further clarification and discussion. Please look at the current page's talk page to see a more detailed account of my proposed changes for the page. Lenasilva ( talk) 15:28, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Idlib is a city in Syria, one of the hot spots of the current military insurgency. It appears it has also gained a historical reputation for being a locus of homosexual culture, although contemporary (at least currently available) sources cannot provide any explanation for the origin of this reputation which has devolved to little more than a rumor in contemporary lore. For obvious reasons information about this aspect of Idlib culture has been contentious among some editors, and edit warring over its inclusion has been part of the aticle's history. In recent editing developments an editor of some weight has deemed the section inappropriate for the article. I would think that the present WikiProject might find this issue of interest. The discussion can be found at Talk:Idlib. The project might also want to include the article if seen adhering to the project scope. __ meco ( talk) 08:04, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
I am currently involved in a dispute over edits to the Wiki page on Jeffrey Satinover. Satinover is an academic whose work is widely-cited by anti-gay groups, has on a number of occasions testified against pro-LGBT civil rights legislation (e.g., same-sex marriage in Massachusetts), and basically argues that LGBT people don't really exist. Satinover is a proponent of sexual orientation change efforts. Before I began editing the Satinover page, it contained a variety of biased information, puffery about Satinover's background, and it completely whitewashed Satinover's role in providing intellectual cover for organizations and individuals working to dehumanize LGBT people in order to block advances in LGBT civil rights. I have tried editing the page to include quotes by Satinover, as well as a synopsis of his book, "Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth," which cites old and widely discredited research and traffics in the worst of anti-gay stereotypes (e.g., promiscuous, pedophiles, incapable of love, etc.) My edits were noticed by User:Lionelt, who is affiliated with WikiProject_Conservatism and has more experience editing Wikipedia than me. S/he keeps reverting my edits, sometimes sensibly and with explanation, and but often not. Overall, User:Lionelt (who could, for all I know, be Satinover himself) seems keenly interested in presenting a whitewashed characterization of Satinover's work, and in preserving and normalizing the anti-gay sentiments Satinover has expressed. I could use some help. Please see User:Lionelt's talk page for the latest. -- Miamibeachguy ( talk) 19:08, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Started a requested move to change this to Birmingham Gay Village so that it can be expanded and cover the gay village rather than one streer with some of the clubs on. Let your opinions be known on the talk page. Thanks Jenova 20 16:55, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Game designer Paul Jaquays recently came out as a transsexual lesbian female named Jennell Jaquays. I wasn't alone in wanting to edit the page, but I was just recently pointed in the direction of some personal notes on jaquays.com which I assume I can use as a reliable source for the gender change. I removed most of the gender pronouns (hopefully not too ham-fistedly) and replaced them with the surname as a more neutral term. I think most of the article does not need a rewrite, as the career and other sections speak for themselves. I did have a rewrite of the "personal life" section, of course. Mostly I need to know what categories need to be added to this BLP, and what other changes should be having, like do we add this wikiproject? Never gave a gender reassignment to an article before, but I guess it had to happen. :) Just like a person would need to go through a gradual transition, I think we can do the same here as well. Discussion on the article's talk page about what changes are needed is encouraged! BOZ ( talk) 15:19, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
I would like to see material from this RS added to this bio. 131.107.0.78 ( talk) 23:12, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
I would like to alert members of this project that there is a problem at the Andrea James article. An editor is insisting upon including undue details about controversies that the article's subject has been involved in. The article's subject, who edits Wikipedia as Jokestress, has expressed distress about this, and said that she may have to make an OTRS request. I have tried to discuss matters on that article's talk page, but the editor who wants to include the negative material has ignored the points I've made and responded with frivolous comments. It would help if editors not previously involved with that article could comment there. Luwat ( talk) 06:52, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
I have started a discussion on what article should run on that day. If you would like to make a suggestion, please go here. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 05:38, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
A new shiny barnstar you can use: give it to editors who have contributed to LGBT topics on Wikipedia.
— Tom Morris ( talk) 15:11, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
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While browsing the list of LGBT-related organizations, I found an entry — which I believe to be inappropriate — for Courage International. This is a Roman Catholic Church–sanctioned apostolate that advocates chastity among gay people in accordance with church doctrine concerning homosexuality. They are a co-founder of Positive Alternatives to Homosexuality (PATH).
My guess is this list was intended for organizations that affirm, rather than try to "repair", LGBT people, and "LGBT-related" may be a misnomer. Although Courage International may be an LGBT-related organization in the technical sense (in the same way PATH and other ex-gay organizations are), I think including such organizations on this list is inappropriate. I believe the entry should be removed, which I will do soon, unless anyone has major objections or someone else beats me to the punch. I also believe the misleading title should be changed. — Athelwulf [T]/ [C] 20:21, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
A user and I are discussing if Brazil should be added to the list of countries where same-sex marriage is legal (or at least be mentioned in a note). I think other opinions would be great. You can see the discussion here. Thanks (: -- DrkFrdric ( talk) 20:44, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I am not highly involved in any one project on Wikipedia, but I do make edits to science based pages. I noticed the other day that the Chick-Fil-A Wiki page has a mention about anti-gay policies. I think that Dominoes Pizza should also have a section on this. My problem is that I don't know if it would be appropriate or not. Would someone like to add that in there if they think it's fitting? The wiki page on Tom Monaghan (who has a controlling share in Domino's) made me feel that it should be mentioned on the company page.
Also, should there be a Wiki page on companies with known anti-gay and pro-gay policies? Sdegan ( talk) 22:50, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Could do with some more eyes here to help update these. Anyone interested? Thanks Jenova 20 09:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
I already requested an assessment under the tab for it on the project page, but I see that none of those pages have been assessed in a year. I would like corrective rape to be reassessed because it is no longer a stub and should be a higher class than that. Please let me know if you have any questions or feedback. Thank you! Rachelpop- ( talk) 21:21, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
I've been putting together an article on Chad Griffin, founder of AFER and who will be leading HRC beginning in June. Any comments/improvements/corrections/expansion welcome. -- joe decker talk to me 23:20, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Would it be noteworthy/appropriate or not to add a page regarding LGBT legislation in a certain area? Anchorage, Alaska had a ballot initiative to include the LGBT population in their municipal anti-discrimination clause, however the measure failed 40% to 60%. I am sure people would like to read more about it, but there isn't a wiki page on it yet. Would that be noteworthy? Sean Egan (talk) 02:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
For a couple of months, I've been trying my best to edit the biographical article on Jeffrey Satinover, an academic with impressive credentials (MIT, Harvard, Yale) who is author of the anti-gay book "Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth." Satinover's book is a perennial favorite of anti-gay groups, who use it to argue that LGBT people are intrinsically inferior to heterosexuals, and therefore undeserving of equal rights. Satinover serves on the Scientific Advisory of the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality ( NARTH). Satinover has also testifed against LGBT rights in the Massachusetts (same-sex marriage) and Florida (in support of the now-defunct ban on LGBT adoption). Satinover's views are well outside the mainstream, a fact that I keep trying to ensure is included in the bio about him.
A handful of editors, including Bravejoints2, who appears to have personal ties to Satinover, keep deleting my edits in an effort to whitewash what Satinover has actually written and said. Recently, he deleted my reference to a book, "The Moral Minority: Identifying, Analyzing, and Exposing Homophobes," that critiques Satinover's anti-gay book, explaining the reasons for such deletion on the bio's TALK page. I find the reasons suspect. Most recently, this editor also said on the TALK page that he has, in an e-mail to Satinover, "alerted him to what was happening on Wikipedia." I encourage you to read the TALK section on Jeffrey Satinover for details. It would help to have some other editorial voices weigh in. -- Branmuffin22 ( talk) 15:38, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
A recent malware attack caused me some concern from the article when checking references after a recent revert of a claim I thought was stitched together with primary sources. There is a discussion now ongoing and the Project LDS has also been notified.-- Amadscientist ( talk) 21:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Template talk:World homosexuality laws map about a new map from Commons. The differences are:
Comments welcome. — kwami ( talk) 20:22, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
I have created a task force proposal for Cheers. Come to Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Cheers for discussion. -- George Ho ( talk) 04:55, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
If you have anything to contribute: images, wording, suggestions, no matter how insignificant then post it here, on those pages or just do it. Thanks kindly Jenova 20 08:47, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
The article seems to be getting whittled down slowly by opponents believing it to be a coatrack article. I believe the talkpage comments also show a somewhat anti-gay tone, however I am not at all surprised just that they seem to lack any real policy or guideline to back themselves up. There is a section of great relevence to the LGBT community and to the project [1]. Could we get some eyes on this to see how it can be improved, where it need trimming or expanding and help? Thanks!-- Amadscientist ( talk) 21:27, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi.
I've moved the article Bradley Manning to Breanna Manning due to major BLP concerns about how we identify Manning; from a reading of the sources in question, and of MOS:IDENTITY, I believe there are major BLP issues with how we refer to Manning as "he", despite sources also saying that her identity is female.
Please direct the discussion to the thread on BLP/N; this is a cross-posted notification. :) Sceptre ( talk) 20:50, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
A little research project for anyone who wants it:
I've just added a one-sentence subsection to the article on Giordano Bruno (as well as the LGBT project banner on the talk page), who was burned at the stake in Rome in 1600 for various offenses, including asserting that the earth moved around the sun, questioning the teachings of the Catholic Church, and some unspecified "immorality." The ex-monk, never-married Bruno was a buddy of some gay figures like Christopher Marlowe, and in the 19th century, gay critics Symonds and Pater were sure he was family, and they ought to know.
Trouble is, I've just spent 2 hours trying to find more scholarly sources adding to this opinion - I don't think there's any direct evidence to be had - and found very little on Google Books, or little that's easily summarized. The glbtq article I referenced in my addition says that Arcigay, the Italian gay-rights organization, regularly holds their rallies near his statue in the square where he was executed. Again, they ought to know, but I don't read Italian, so their website is no use to me.
Anyone with an interest in the man or the period, or who can read Italian, and wants to flesh out the subsection with more quotes and refs about Bruno's sexuality, please do so. I don't have time to dig further. Textorus ( talk) 00:01, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Oppure che “la spinta centrale di tutta la ricerca di Newton era tutt’altro che scientifica“ e che “ dedito, come Giordano Bruno, alla stregoneria si occupava di esoterismo, alchimia, demonologia, alla ricerca del fantomatico "elisir dell’eterna giovinezza". Gli intrugli che preparava gli servivano appunto per tentare di mantenersi "giovane" in una relazione omosessuale con un matematico svizzero“.
Or that "the central thrust of the entire research of Newton was anything but scientific" and "addicted, like Giordano Bruno, to the witchcraft charge of esotericism, Alchemy, Demonology, in search of the elusive" elixir of eternal youth ". He who prepared the concoctions served precisely to try to keep "young" in a homosexual relationship with a Swiss mathematician.
A cissexual editor seems to be enforcing a strange and POV idea of how to present pronouns of Tom Gabel, a rock star who has very recently and publicly come out as trans [3]. Just a heads up really, in case any other people concerned with this want to contribute to the discussion/help educate. - Kez ( talk) 08:46, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
In: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_of_same-sex_couples , specifically in the 'Effects on Children' section, there exists uncited information that contradicts what I've read elsewhere on WP. 174.0.47.186 ( talk) 22:46, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Dan Savage bibliography has been nominated for deletion. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dan Savage bibliography. Thank you for your time, — Cirt ( talk) 14:38, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi everyone, just an FYI that the article about gay country singer Drake Jensen is up for deletion. Sarah ( talk) 16:55, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Move on both The Boys in the Band and The Boys in the Band (disambiguation) is requested. You can join in discussion. -- George Ho ( talk) 17:33, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
i was wondering if i could get some assistance with the article on gay bar. user Patagonian ( talk · contribs) who has been acting in an rather disruptive manner on the page, and ignoring all evidence contrary to his position, he has rather obviously reverted again using using an ip sockpuppet, and i am right up against the 3rr myself. any assistance would be appreciated -- emerson7 16:33, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
I've made a serious of changes today adding succession boxes to the former presidents/executive directors of HRC/HRCF which effects Joe Solmonese, Cheryl Jacques, Elizabeth Birch, Tim McFeeley, and the newly created article Vic Basile, as well as some expansion on Jacques, some cleanup at Solmonese, and of course the creation at Basile. You'll find some sources that another person prior to Vic was the first executive director of HRC, it appears that gets into definitional territory as organizations were merging in the 1980s, but I think the way I have things is the rough consensus of reliable sources. You'll notice that the terms of office get progressively less detailed as you go back in time, reflecting increasingly unspecific sources.
All of the listed articles could use portraits, pretty much all of them would have to be licensed CC-BY-SA or equivalent.
I do expect to make an improvement to the underlying to move the "Human Rights Campaign" up into the title of the succession box, but that will have to wait for another day.
I'm confident I've sourced Basile to evidence WP:GNG, but additional reliable, significant coverage of him, particularly if you have discussions of him in off-line sources (I've worked entirely on-line so far), would be greatly welcomed.
As always, copyedits, improvements, corrections, and telling me I'm full of it where I am, all appreciated. I'm a terrible writer, but I do hope that for the most part I've done more good than harm to the articles. Best, -- joe decker talk to me 21:02, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
I've started an article on the Tracy Thorne-Begland dust-up if anybody's interested in contributing. It's far from complete, but I'm well past my bedtime. Cheers, Khazar2 ( talk) 09:37, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
The article is a bio, not just devoted to the latest flap. I'll try to pitch in. It's unlikely he criticized President Clinton and DADT in 1992! Bmclaughlin9 ( talk) 10:40, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Actor/director page up for AFD, deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Carrigan (3rd nomination). — Cirt ( talk) 16:56, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Another editor tagged the article International Journal of Greek Love for speedy deletion as a copyvio. The article is copied from an article in BoyWiki at http://en.boywiki.org/wiki/International_Journal_of_Greek_Love licensed under GNU Free Documentation License 1.2, which appears not to be a licence that the English Wikipedia regards as free according to WP:Compatibly licensed
If the journal in question is notable by English Wikipedia standards, perhaps an editor could create a new article about it that would not be a copyvio. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 05:15, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Please see discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Does MOS:IDENTITY apply to credit for works?. Thanks! Kaldari ( talk) 20:48, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi, all. I'm just letting you know that whether or not Heard should be placed in Category:Bisexual actors is being revisited. Whether she should be placed in any LGBT category is also being tackled. See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Listing Amber Heard in Category:Bisexual actors and Talk:Amber Heard#Taken to the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. Flyer22 ( talk) 20:23, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
I wanted to share two developments with folks and see if there are any objections to including enWP's WikiProject LGBT studies as a partner to both efforts.
Feedback, as always, is welcome on these efforts. I hope to see people at the Wikimania Meetup and meeting more folks through the LGBT Outreach project. Based on what I've heard from enWP LGBT folks on IRC - I anticipate WikiProject LGBT studies joining the Wikinews LGBT Portal and WikiQueer as partners of these efforts - but wanted to seek more input from folks here (for obvious reasons) first. -- Varnent ( talk) 02:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
List of LGBT community centres in Canada, deletion discussion is here: [6]. List of LGBT community and student centres in the United Kingdom, deletion discussion is here: [7]. Some of the centres listed are already standalone articles, so I don't see how notability could be an issue. OttawaAC ( talk) 21:55, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
In the wake of a discussion at the Misc. Village Pump, I've created a pair of templates which can be used on Talk pages to remind editors of the existence and meaning of MOS:IDENTITY with respect to trans individuals, Template:MOS-TW and Template:MOS-TM. Take a look, I'm sure they're far from perfect, and it'd be better to sand off the rough edges before any wide application. Thanks. -- joe decker talk to me 22:22, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
More eyes might be helpful here. Rivertorch ( talk) 18:56, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
I could use some help with the sexual identity article. It's woefully incomplete and the concepts it mentions aren't properly discussed or referenced in articles on similar topics, eg. gender identity. 0x2020 ( talk) 22:02, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Ah fuck. Being immersed in transgender topics and terminology the only meaning of sexual identity I knew was the sex that one identifies with. The article before my edits was absolutely horrific so I (rather rashly) deleted most of it without checking for any alternate meanings. I'm far too used to any article on transgender topics having a huge number of problems so I jumped to conclusions rather quickly. I have now included definitions for both meanings. Sorry! 0x2020 ( talk) 13:03, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Aha! I've found a synonym for the (transgender) definition of "sexual identity", "subconscious sex". See http://www.juliaserano.com/whippinggirl.html, http://www.thefword.org.uk/features/2008/03/trans_101, http://transprose.net/2008/05/identity-subconscious-sex/. This seems to be in much more common use and doesn't present a confusing alternative definition to a word used in a similar area. So should a new section in gender identity be created or a new article made altogether? Should the article on sexual identity be reverted to the state before my edits? The tone/style wasn't, uhh... wikipedia-ish, and it contradicted itself a number of times, as well as duplicating information in articles on only slightly similar topics. 0x2020 ( talk) 23:35, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Just a thought I'm throwing out here, not knowing if it's doable or advisable: I just happened to find the page about the feedback request service. I wonder if it would be possible to set up a similar function strictly for LGBT articles. They are not one of the topics you can sign up under on that page. Any thoughts, guys? Textorus ( talk) 10:50, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
It should be listed on the main page there in the next hour or so. FYI, -- j⚛e decker talk 20:03, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Recently i made some page moves changing "homosexuality" to "LGBT" on various religion pages. Many have been reverted (i.e. Homosexuality and Anglicanism) but some still stand (.i.e. LGBT and the United Church of Canada). I think the LGBT title is better because "homosexuality" tends to focus on a sexual aspect, even though most religious articles focus on various other issues which would fit LGBT more. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Pass a Method talk 12:56, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
As a general rule, it's best to initiate a discussion before making changes to entry names. The decision needs to be made on a case by case basis by those concerned who are familiar with the content of the entry. Engage your fellow editors. This isn't just about the name of the page: it's about educating your peers and maybe even learning something about how they understand the question you're raising with the proposed name change. Bmclaughlin9 ( talk) 15:03, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
As Jenova20 says: there are times when it is appropriate to talk about "LGBT" and there are times when it's appropriate to talk specifically about the individual elements thereof, namely lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and transgender people. We should use the terms that are both the most appropriate and the most used by the sources, rather than pick terms based on whether they are preferential for us as individuals, partly because that's rather subjective. Some people strongly object to -sexual terms, some people object to the reclaimed 'queer'—identities are complicated. In addition, there's a lot of articles where you cannot actually substitute LGBT for homosexuality: Homosexuality in ancient Greece ain't really about anything but the 'G' in LGBT. — Tom Morris ( talk) 23:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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( edit conflict) Well you need to get over it. Black people don't have a monopoly on the term "slave name". I'm black AND gay. You can't tell me what it's like to be both but I can certainly tell you. You live in the closet, grow up knowing your gay afraid to say something and see what that's like before you try to deny gay people's plight compared to something you personally probably didn't even experience. Okay? Thank you. – Teammm ( talk · email) 00:49, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
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Pass a Method, looks like this will work about as well as your attempt to chance all instances of "heterosexual" to simply "hetero". Delicious carbuncle ( talk) 14:18, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
A user (Pass a Method) made an attempt to change the title to LGBT. In this case renaming it to LGBT would not be appropriate because the article only covers attitudes towards homosexuality (gays and lesbians) and some discussion on bisexuality but does not cover attitudes towards transgenders. Cadiomals ( talk) 14:03, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
An IP has been making what i think are POV edits, (see [8]). I want some third opinions on this. Pass a Method talk 15:52, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Can someone help me reword the lede here...i'm really struggling with it and can't get it to read very well. Thanks Jenova 20 15:13, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hi all, can i get some more eyes on this article as i have a problem keeping watch of the edits and there are those out there who would like to remove mention of "conversion therapy" and other things this organization has done and is doing currently. Thanks all ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 17:49, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Episcopalian Church approves of SSM - I know the Christianity and sexual orientation (and Anglicanism, and same-sex marriage, and USA...) stuff is spread out across a really large number of articles so can we make the effort together to keep WP current? Or at least let's try to list here all the articles that talk about the Church's position, and I can go around and try to fix them up when I have time... – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 03:45, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
I have 3 people connected to Wikiproject Catholocism trying to censor information and remove verifiable information they don't approve of from a conversion therapy organization. Can i get some more eyes here? Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 08:16, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
If you live in LA, we are looking for people to help out at the above event (which is mostly being organized on FB). If you live online (and who of us doesn't?), please feel free to edit the articles we have listed as part of "queering Wikipedia" day! Wadewitz ( talk) 22:19, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
This lobby group article needs an entire rewirte from a factual and neutral point of view. I'm struggling to reword it myself so if someone else has the time, it won't take long. Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 08:55, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Kind of a shocker here that the YMCA, which has huge gay culture significance isn't even watched by this Wikiproject and only includes a single line about this (which happens to include mention of the Village People song). Can someone fix this please. Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 16:03, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
This is an article submission that we have missing and i will eventually create myself if no one else does it. I won't do it for a long time tho as i have a big workload. Starting reference is just a bit of info and a link to Stonewall (charity) here. And there is a barnstar to whoever creates this article with a lede. Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 21:53, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Article is currently undergoing a major expansion. Please join the discussion at Talk:Sacred Band of Thebes#NPOV and David Leitao. Thank you. -- OBSIDIAN† SOUL 15:22, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
There is a question raised as to whether MOS:IDENTITY applies to credits for films, etc. Discussion here. -- j⚛e decker talk 13:04, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Hey all. It's no secret we've not had a newsletter since i've been here. If you want to change that then start posting stuff here to work on and discuss to make it easier to change that. We've had our recent Pride events, England, Scotland and Wales are getting gay marriage, there's tonnes of big name actors coming out, Lady Gaga has a new album coming out, as do the Scissor Sisters, and then there's the anti-gay Chick-fil-A empire crumbling around us. Chuck in what you can and let's see what we can do together. Thanks all and i expect a message from as many of you as possible ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 18:32, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
In case anyone is interested in old newsletters from this project, I went through the history of my talk page to compile this list. I may have missed some, I'm not sure. [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] first one by "Miss Julie"? [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] Ladyof Shalott 04:28, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
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Looks like I'm following you around - I didn't know ya'll went to Rice too! We should all meet up to talk about our goals for the page so we can coordinate a bit and not step on eachother's toes.
I also would like to edit the current Wikipedia page on "Corrective Rape" because it is a world-wide phenomenon that affects many lesbian, transgender, bisexual, and gender-queer women. The current article is a stub and only addresses a very small portion of the issue, focusing almost entirely on its manifestation in South Africa and its effect on lesbians. This issue is prevalent in many parts of the world, including highly industrialized or developed nations. Indeed, the very existence of this phenomenon indirectly affects all women, especially those that do not conform (either by choice or not) to the normative gender role for women in their community, through the atmosphere of fear and intimidation that it creates. All of this begs further clarification and discussion. Please look at the current page's talk page to see a more detailed account of my proposed changes for the page. Lenasilva ( talk) 15:28, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Idlib is a city in Syria, one of the hot spots of the current military insurgency. It appears it has also gained a historical reputation for being a locus of homosexual culture, although contemporary (at least currently available) sources cannot provide any explanation for the origin of this reputation which has devolved to little more than a rumor in contemporary lore. For obvious reasons information about this aspect of Idlib culture has been contentious among some editors, and edit warring over its inclusion has been part of the aticle's history. In recent editing developments an editor of some weight has deemed the section inappropriate for the article. I would think that the present WikiProject might find this issue of interest. The discussion can be found at Talk:Idlib. The project might also want to include the article if seen adhering to the project scope. __ meco ( talk) 08:04, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
I am currently involved in a dispute over edits to the Wiki page on Jeffrey Satinover. Satinover is an academic whose work is widely-cited by anti-gay groups, has on a number of occasions testified against pro-LGBT civil rights legislation (e.g., same-sex marriage in Massachusetts), and basically argues that LGBT people don't really exist. Satinover is a proponent of sexual orientation change efforts. Before I began editing the Satinover page, it contained a variety of biased information, puffery about Satinover's background, and it completely whitewashed Satinover's role in providing intellectual cover for organizations and individuals working to dehumanize LGBT people in order to block advances in LGBT civil rights. I have tried editing the page to include quotes by Satinover, as well as a synopsis of his book, "Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth," which cites old and widely discredited research and traffics in the worst of anti-gay stereotypes (e.g., promiscuous, pedophiles, incapable of love, etc.) My edits were noticed by User:Lionelt, who is affiliated with WikiProject_Conservatism and has more experience editing Wikipedia than me. S/he keeps reverting my edits, sometimes sensibly and with explanation, and but often not. Overall, User:Lionelt (who could, for all I know, be Satinover himself) seems keenly interested in presenting a whitewashed characterization of Satinover's work, and in preserving and normalizing the anti-gay sentiments Satinover has expressed. I could use some help. Please see User:Lionelt's talk page for the latest. -- Miamibeachguy ( talk) 19:08, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Started a requested move to change this to Birmingham Gay Village so that it can be expanded and cover the gay village rather than one streer with some of the clubs on. Let your opinions be known on the talk page. Thanks Jenova 20 16:55, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Game designer Paul Jaquays recently came out as a transsexual lesbian female named Jennell Jaquays. I wasn't alone in wanting to edit the page, but I was just recently pointed in the direction of some personal notes on jaquays.com which I assume I can use as a reliable source for the gender change. I removed most of the gender pronouns (hopefully not too ham-fistedly) and replaced them with the surname as a more neutral term. I think most of the article does not need a rewrite, as the career and other sections speak for themselves. I did have a rewrite of the "personal life" section, of course. Mostly I need to know what categories need to be added to this BLP, and what other changes should be having, like do we add this wikiproject? Never gave a gender reassignment to an article before, but I guess it had to happen. :) Just like a person would need to go through a gradual transition, I think we can do the same here as well. Discussion on the article's talk page about what changes are needed is encouraged! BOZ ( talk) 15:19, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
I would like to see material from this RS added to this bio. 131.107.0.78 ( talk) 23:12, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
I would like to alert members of this project that there is a problem at the Andrea James article. An editor is insisting upon including undue details about controversies that the article's subject has been involved in. The article's subject, who edits Wikipedia as Jokestress, has expressed distress about this, and said that she may have to make an OTRS request. I have tried to discuss matters on that article's talk page, but the editor who wants to include the negative material has ignored the points I've made and responded with frivolous comments. It would help if editors not previously involved with that article could comment there. Luwat ( talk) 06:52, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
I have started a discussion on what article should run on that day. If you would like to make a suggestion, please go here. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 05:38, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
A new shiny barnstar you can use: give it to editors who have contributed to LGBT topics on Wikipedia.
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While browsing the list of LGBT-related organizations, I found an entry — which I believe to be inappropriate — for Courage International. This is a Roman Catholic Church–sanctioned apostolate that advocates chastity among gay people in accordance with church doctrine concerning homosexuality. They are a co-founder of Positive Alternatives to Homosexuality (PATH).
My guess is this list was intended for organizations that affirm, rather than try to "repair", LGBT people, and "LGBT-related" may be a misnomer. Although Courage International may be an LGBT-related organization in the technical sense (in the same way PATH and other ex-gay organizations are), I think including such organizations on this list is inappropriate. I believe the entry should be removed, which I will do soon, unless anyone has major objections or someone else beats me to the punch. I also believe the misleading title should be changed. — Athelwulf [T]/ [C] 20:21, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
A user and I are discussing if Brazil should be added to the list of countries where same-sex marriage is legal (or at least be mentioned in a note). I think other opinions would be great. You can see the discussion here. Thanks (: -- DrkFrdric ( talk) 20:44, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I am not highly involved in any one project on Wikipedia, but I do make edits to science based pages. I noticed the other day that the Chick-Fil-A Wiki page has a mention about anti-gay policies. I think that Dominoes Pizza should also have a section on this. My problem is that I don't know if it would be appropriate or not. Would someone like to add that in there if they think it's fitting? The wiki page on Tom Monaghan (who has a controlling share in Domino's) made me feel that it should be mentioned on the company page.
Also, should there be a Wiki page on companies with known anti-gay and pro-gay policies? Sdegan ( talk) 22:50, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Could do with some more eyes here to help update these. Anyone interested? Thanks Jenova 20 09:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
I already requested an assessment under the tab for it on the project page, but I see that none of those pages have been assessed in a year. I would like corrective rape to be reassessed because it is no longer a stub and should be a higher class than that. Please let me know if you have any questions or feedback. Thank you! Rachelpop- ( talk) 21:21, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
I've been putting together an article on Chad Griffin, founder of AFER and who will be leading HRC beginning in June. Any comments/improvements/corrections/expansion welcome. -- joe decker talk to me 23:20, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Would it be noteworthy/appropriate or not to add a page regarding LGBT legislation in a certain area? Anchorage, Alaska had a ballot initiative to include the LGBT population in their municipal anti-discrimination clause, however the measure failed 40% to 60%. I am sure people would like to read more about it, but there isn't a wiki page on it yet. Would that be noteworthy? Sean Egan (talk) 02:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
For a couple of months, I've been trying my best to edit the biographical article on Jeffrey Satinover, an academic with impressive credentials (MIT, Harvard, Yale) who is author of the anti-gay book "Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth." Satinover's book is a perennial favorite of anti-gay groups, who use it to argue that LGBT people are intrinsically inferior to heterosexuals, and therefore undeserving of equal rights. Satinover serves on the Scientific Advisory of the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality ( NARTH). Satinover has also testifed against LGBT rights in the Massachusetts (same-sex marriage) and Florida (in support of the now-defunct ban on LGBT adoption). Satinover's views are well outside the mainstream, a fact that I keep trying to ensure is included in the bio about him.
A handful of editors, including Bravejoints2, who appears to have personal ties to Satinover, keep deleting my edits in an effort to whitewash what Satinover has actually written and said. Recently, he deleted my reference to a book, "The Moral Minority: Identifying, Analyzing, and Exposing Homophobes," that critiques Satinover's anti-gay book, explaining the reasons for such deletion on the bio's TALK page. I find the reasons suspect. Most recently, this editor also said on the TALK page that he has, in an e-mail to Satinover, "alerted him to what was happening on Wikipedia." I encourage you to read the TALK section on Jeffrey Satinover for details. It would help to have some other editorial voices weigh in. -- Branmuffin22 ( talk) 15:38, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
A recent malware attack caused me some concern from the article when checking references after a recent revert of a claim I thought was stitched together with primary sources. There is a discussion now ongoing and the Project LDS has also been notified.-- Amadscientist ( talk) 21:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Template talk:World homosexuality laws map about a new map from Commons. The differences are:
Comments welcome. — kwami ( talk) 20:22, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
I have created a task force proposal for Cheers. Come to Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Cheers for discussion. -- George Ho ( talk) 04:55, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
If you have anything to contribute: images, wording, suggestions, no matter how insignificant then post it here, on those pages or just do it. Thanks kindly Jenova 20 08:47, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
The article seems to be getting whittled down slowly by opponents believing it to be a coatrack article. I believe the talkpage comments also show a somewhat anti-gay tone, however I am not at all surprised just that they seem to lack any real policy or guideline to back themselves up. There is a section of great relevence to the LGBT community and to the project [1]. Could we get some eyes on this to see how it can be improved, where it need trimming or expanding and help? Thanks!-- Amadscientist ( talk) 21:27, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi.
I've moved the article Bradley Manning to Breanna Manning due to major BLP concerns about how we identify Manning; from a reading of the sources in question, and of MOS:IDENTITY, I believe there are major BLP issues with how we refer to Manning as "he", despite sources also saying that her identity is female.
Please direct the discussion to the thread on BLP/N; this is a cross-posted notification. :) Sceptre ( talk) 20:50, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
A little research project for anyone who wants it:
I've just added a one-sentence subsection to the article on Giordano Bruno (as well as the LGBT project banner on the talk page), who was burned at the stake in Rome in 1600 for various offenses, including asserting that the earth moved around the sun, questioning the teachings of the Catholic Church, and some unspecified "immorality." The ex-monk, never-married Bruno was a buddy of some gay figures like Christopher Marlowe, and in the 19th century, gay critics Symonds and Pater were sure he was family, and they ought to know.
Trouble is, I've just spent 2 hours trying to find more scholarly sources adding to this opinion - I don't think there's any direct evidence to be had - and found very little on Google Books, or little that's easily summarized. The glbtq article I referenced in my addition says that Arcigay, the Italian gay-rights organization, regularly holds their rallies near his statue in the square where he was executed. Again, they ought to know, but I don't read Italian, so their website is no use to me.
Anyone with an interest in the man or the period, or who can read Italian, and wants to flesh out the subsection with more quotes and refs about Bruno's sexuality, please do so. I don't have time to dig further. Textorus ( talk) 00:01, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Oppure che “la spinta centrale di tutta la ricerca di Newton era tutt’altro che scientifica“ e che “ dedito, come Giordano Bruno, alla stregoneria si occupava di esoterismo, alchimia, demonologia, alla ricerca del fantomatico "elisir dell’eterna giovinezza". Gli intrugli che preparava gli servivano appunto per tentare di mantenersi "giovane" in una relazione omosessuale con un matematico svizzero“.
Or that "the central thrust of the entire research of Newton was anything but scientific" and "addicted, like Giordano Bruno, to the witchcraft charge of esotericism, Alchemy, Demonology, in search of the elusive" elixir of eternal youth ". He who prepared the concoctions served precisely to try to keep "young" in a homosexual relationship with a Swiss mathematician.
A cissexual editor seems to be enforcing a strange and POV idea of how to present pronouns of Tom Gabel, a rock star who has very recently and publicly come out as trans [3]. Just a heads up really, in case any other people concerned with this want to contribute to the discussion/help educate. - Kez ( talk) 08:46, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
In: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_of_same-sex_couples , specifically in the 'Effects on Children' section, there exists uncited information that contradicts what I've read elsewhere on WP. 174.0.47.186 ( talk) 22:46, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Dan Savage bibliography has been nominated for deletion. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dan Savage bibliography. Thank you for your time, — Cirt ( talk) 14:38, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi everyone, just an FYI that the article about gay country singer Drake Jensen is up for deletion. Sarah ( talk) 16:55, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Move on both The Boys in the Band and The Boys in the Band (disambiguation) is requested. You can join in discussion. -- George Ho ( talk) 17:33, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
i was wondering if i could get some assistance with the article on gay bar. user Patagonian ( talk · contribs) who has been acting in an rather disruptive manner on the page, and ignoring all evidence contrary to his position, he has rather obviously reverted again using using an ip sockpuppet, and i am right up against the 3rr myself. any assistance would be appreciated -- emerson7 16:33, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
I've made a serious of changes today adding succession boxes to the former presidents/executive directors of HRC/HRCF which effects Joe Solmonese, Cheryl Jacques, Elizabeth Birch, Tim McFeeley, and the newly created article Vic Basile, as well as some expansion on Jacques, some cleanup at Solmonese, and of course the creation at Basile. You'll find some sources that another person prior to Vic was the first executive director of HRC, it appears that gets into definitional territory as organizations were merging in the 1980s, but I think the way I have things is the rough consensus of reliable sources. You'll notice that the terms of office get progressively less detailed as you go back in time, reflecting increasingly unspecific sources.
All of the listed articles could use portraits, pretty much all of them would have to be licensed CC-BY-SA or equivalent.
I do expect to make an improvement to the underlying to move the "Human Rights Campaign" up into the title of the succession box, but that will have to wait for another day.
I'm confident I've sourced Basile to evidence WP:GNG, but additional reliable, significant coverage of him, particularly if you have discussions of him in off-line sources (I've worked entirely on-line so far), would be greatly welcomed.
As always, copyedits, improvements, corrections, and telling me I'm full of it where I am, all appreciated. I'm a terrible writer, but I do hope that for the most part I've done more good than harm to the articles. Best, -- joe decker talk to me 21:02, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
I've started an article on the Tracy Thorne-Begland dust-up if anybody's interested in contributing. It's far from complete, but I'm well past my bedtime. Cheers, Khazar2 ( talk) 09:37, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
The article is a bio, not just devoted to the latest flap. I'll try to pitch in. It's unlikely he criticized President Clinton and DADT in 1992! Bmclaughlin9 ( talk) 10:40, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Actor/director page up for AFD, deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Carrigan (3rd nomination). — Cirt ( talk) 16:56, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Another editor tagged the article International Journal of Greek Love for speedy deletion as a copyvio. The article is copied from an article in BoyWiki at http://en.boywiki.org/wiki/International_Journal_of_Greek_Love licensed under GNU Free Documentation License 1.2, which appears not to be a licence that the English Wikipedia regards as free according to WP:Compatibly licensed
If the journal in question is notable by English Wikipedia standards, perhaps an editor could create a new article about it that would not be a copyvio. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 05:15, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Please see discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Does MOS:IDENTITY apply to credit for works?. Thanks! Kaldari ( talk) 20:48, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi, all. I'm just letting you know that whether or not Heard should be placed in Category:Bisexual actors is being revisited. Whether she should be placed in any LGBT category is also being tackled. See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Listing Amber Heard in Category:Bisexual actors and Talk:Amber Heard#Taken to the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. Flyer22 ( talk) 20:23, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
I wanted to share two developments with folks and see if there are any objections to including enWP's WikiProject LGBT studies as a partner to both efforts.
Feedback, as always, is welcome on these efforts. I hope to see people at the Wikimania Meetup and meeting more folks through the LGBT Outreach project. Based on what I've heard from enWP LGBT folks on IRC - I anticipate WikiProject LGBT studies joining the Wikinews LGBT Portal and WikiQueer as partners of these efforts - but wanted to seek more input from folks here (for obvious reasons) first. -- Varnent ( talk) 02:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
List of LGBT community centres in Canada, deletion discussion is here: [6]. List of LGBT community and student centres in the United Kingdom, deletion discussion is here: [7]. Some of the centres listed are already standalone articles, so I don't see how notability could be an issue. OttawaAC ( talk) 21:55, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
In the wake of a discussion at the Misc. Village Pump, I've created a pair of templates which can be used on Talk pages to remind editors of the existence and meaning of MOS:IDENTITY with respect to trans individuals, Template:MOS-TW and Template:MOS-TM. Take a look, I'm sure they're far from perfect, and it'd be better to sand off the rough edges before any wide application. Thanks. -- joe decker talk to me 22:22, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
More eyes might be helpful here. Rivertorch ( talk) 18:56, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
I could use some help with the sexual identity article. It's woefully incomplete and the concepts it mentions aren't properly discussed or referenced in articles on similar topics, eg. gender identity. 0x2020 ( talk) 22:02, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Ah fuck. Being immersed in transgender topics and terminology the only meaning of sexual identity I knew was the sex that one identifies with. The article before my edits was absolutely horrific so I (rather rashly) deleted most of it without checking for any alternate meanings. I'm far too used to any article on transgender topics having a huge number of problems so I jumped to conclusions rather quickly. I have now included definitions for both meanings. Sorry! 0x2020 ( talk) 13:03, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Aha! I've found a synonym for the (transgender) definition of "sexual identity", "subconscious sex". See http://www.juliaserano.com/whippinggirl.html, http://www.thefword.org.uk/features/2008/03/trans_101, http://transprose.net/2008/05/identity-subconscious-sex/. This seems to be in much more common use and doesn't present a confusing alternative definition to a word used in a similar area. So should a new section in gender identity be created or a new article made altogether? Should the article on sexual identity be reverted to the state before my edits? The tone/style wasn't, uhh... wikipedia-ish, and it contradicted itself a number of times, as well as duplicating information in articles on only slightly similar topics. 0x2020 ( talk) 23:35, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Just a thought I'm throwing out here, not knowing if it's doable or advisable: I just happened to find the page about the feedback request service. I wonder if it would be possible to set up a similar function strictly for LGBT articles. They are not one of the topics you can sign up under on that page. Any thoughts, guys? Textorus ( talk) 10:50, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
It should be listed on the main page there in the next hour or so. FYI, -- j⚛e decker talk 20:03, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Recently i made some page moves changing "homosexuality" to "LGBT" on various religion pages. Many have been reverted (i.e. Homosexuality and Anglicanism) but some still stand (.i.e. LGBT and the United Church of Canada). I think the LGBT title is better because "homosexuality" tends to focus on a sexual aspect, even though most religious articles focus on various other issues which would fit LGBT more. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Pass a Method talk 12:56, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
As a general rule, it's best to initiate a discussion before making changes to entry names. The decision needs to be made on a case by case basis by those concerned who are familiar with the content of the entry. Engage your fellow editors. This isn't just about the name of the page: it's about educating your peers and maybe even learning something about how they understand the question you're raising with the proposed name change. Bmclaughlin9 ( talk) 15:03, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
As Jenova20 says: there are times when it is appropriate to talk about "LGBT" and there are times when it's appropriate to talk specifically about the individual elements thereof, namely lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and transgender people. We should use the terms that are both the most appropriate and the most used by the sources, rather than pick terms based on whether they are preferential for us as individuals, partly because that's rather subjective. Some people strongly object to -sexual terms, some people object to the reclaimed 'queer'—identities are complicated. In addition, there's a lot of articles where you cannot actually substitute LGBT for homosexuality: Homosexuality in ancient Greece ain't really about anything but the 'G' in LGBT. — Tom Morris ( talk) 23:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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( edit conflict) Well you need to get over it. Black people don't have a monopoly on the term "slave name". I'm black AND gay. You can't tell me what it's like to be both but I can certainly tell you. You live in the closet, grow up knowing your gay afraid to say something and see what that's like before you try to deny gay people's plight compared to something you personally probably didn't even experience. Okay? Thank you. – Teammm ( talk · email) 00:49, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
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Pass a Method, looks like this will work about as well as your attempt to chance all instances of "heterosexual" to simply "hetero". Delicious carbuncle ( talk) 14:18, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
A user (Pass a Method) made an attempt to change the title to LGBT. In this case renaming it to LGBT would not be appropriate because the article only covers attitudes towards homosexuality (gays and lesbians) and some discussion on bisexuality but does not cover attitudes towards transgenders. Cadiomals ( talk) 14:03, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
An IP has been making what i think are POV edits, (see [8]). I want some third opinions on this. Pass a Method talk 15:52, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Can someone help me reword the lede here...i'm really struggling with it and can't get it to read very well. Thanks Jenova 20 15:13, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hi all, can i get some more eyes on this article as i have a problem keeping watch of the edits and there are those out there who would like to remove mention of "conversion therapy" and other things this organization has done and is doing currently. Thanks all ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 17:49, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Episcopalian Church approves of SSM - I know the Christianity and sexual orientation (and Anglicanism, and same-sex marriage, and USA...) stuff is spread out across a really large number of articles so can we make the effort together to keep WP current? Or at least let's try to list here all the articles that talk about the Church's position, and I can go around and try to fix them up when I have time... – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 03:45, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
I have 3 people connected to Wikiproject Catholocism trying to censor information and remove verifiable information they don't approve of from a conversion therapy organization. Can i get some more eyes here? Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 08:16, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
If you live in LA, we are looking for people to help out at the above event (which is mostly being organized on FB). If you live online (and who of us doesn't?), please feel free to edit the articles we have listed as part of "queering Wikipedia" day! Wadewitz ( talk) 22:19, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
This lobby group article needs an entire rewirte from a factual and neutral point of view. I'm struggling to reword it myself so if someone else has the time, it won't take long. Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 08:55, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Kind of a shocker here that the YMCA, which has huge gay culture significance isn't even watched by this Wikiproject and only includes a single line about this (which happens to include mention of the Village People song). Can someone fix this please. Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 16:03, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
This is an article submission that we have missing and i will eventually create myself if no one else does it. I won't do it for a long time tho as i have a big workload. Starting reference is just a bit of info and a link to Stonewall (charity) here. And there is a barnstar to whoever creates this article with a lede. Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 21:53, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Article is currently undergoing a major expansion. Please join the discussion at Talk:Sacred Band of Thebes#NPOV and David Leitao. Thank you. -- OBSIDIAN† SOUL 15:22, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
There is a question raised as to whether MOS:IDENTITY applies to credits for films, etc. Discussion here. -- j⚛e decker talk 13:04, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Hey all. It's no secret we've not had a newsletter since i've been here. If you want to change that then start posting stuff here to work on and discuss to make it easier to change that. We've had our recent Pride events, England, Scotland and Wales are getting gay marriage, there's tonnes of big name actors coming out, Lady Gaga has a new album coming out, as do the Scissor Sisters, and then there's the anti-gay Chick-fil-A empire crumbling around us. Chuck in what you can and let's see what we can do together. Thanks all and i expect a message from as many of you as possible ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 18:32, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
In case anyone is interested in old newsletters from this project, I went through the history of my talk page to compile this list. I may have missed some, I'm not sure. [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] first one by "Miss Julie"? [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] Ladyof Shalott 04:28, 3 August 2012 (UTC)