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I'm very new to writing and editing on Wikipedia, and I'm trying to find out more about how biographies are added and sorted, especially in terms of Jewish musicians/performers/entertainers (even more specifically, those in the Orthodox world - Abie Rotenberg, Benny_Friedman_(singer), Mordechai Shapiro, etc.).
I recently submitted my first article, on the singer Shlomo Simcha (I won't be posting the link here without permission, and I don't even know if this is the right place for asking this question), and don't know how or when the draft will be seen for approval, especially as (I assume) it's niche for the general audience and editors.
I also noticed that some of the singers I mentioned, who already have pages, but do not appear in lists of people in their respective categories. Is this because they are not considered to be notable enough?
Thanks in advance, GreenEli ( talk) 15:22, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello all, I was wondering if any of you lovely people could assist me with my AfC draft on the Treblinka camp survivor Chaim Sztajer. I believe he is notable enough to deserve an article however my draft was previously rejected for a lack of reliable sources. If anyone here if from Melbourne Australia you might know him as the creator of the Treblinka camp model at the Jewish Holocaust Centre museum in Elsternwick. My article relies too heavily on a biography of him written by his daughter. I found a few newspaper sources and there are some academic sources I can add but they are all about his life after the Holocaust, not before and during. I really want this article to be approved. Can anyone help me out? Thank you!! Apriljennifer ( talk) 05:43, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
I am trying to expand the preface to Elazar Shach but am facing a brick wall. See talk. Many thanks. Chesdovi ( talk) 00:40, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Category:Jewish composers is up for deletion. As this project's banner was on the category talk page, I am notifying the project about the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 July 27. 4meter4 ( talk) 14:06, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Talk:David via Talk:David#Israelite_monarchs on whether the article Kingdom of Israel (united monarchy) or Kings of Israel and Judah should be linked to the titles of the monarchs that ruled a united Israel. Additional thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Jerm ( talk) 20:34, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
Boker tov everybody! I'm working my way through the massive backlog at articles for creation and there are a couple situations that I'd love to discuss with you.
Any assistance or discussion would be great. Thanks in advance! Bkissin ( talk) 15:05, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Your input is requested at Talk:Yeshivat Netiv Aryeh about the best way to go about portraying abuse allegations that were levelled at the dean. Thank you. Havradim leaf a message 10:51, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
...to do: Homer Hayiuli ( Hyle) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.34.85.148 ( talk) 09:37, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
If it's useful for anyone, I created a talk page editnotice template to gently nudge editors toward using more inclusive holiday greetings. Feel free to adopt it! {{u| Sdkb}} talk 19:43, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
There is a move discussion at Talk:Noach (parsha)#Requested move 17 December 2020 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. The discussion is around whether parsha or parashah is the correct English spelling. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 05:38, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
[[<Torah section> (parsha)]]
to [[<Torah section> (parashah)]]
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Lambiam
23:27, 3 January 2021 (UTC)I would like to use this forum to give praise to User:DayakSibiriak for his many recent quality improvements to Jewish religious movements and other Judaism-related articles. Debresser ( talk) 15:06, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
User:Pretzel butterfly has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Pretzel butterfly ( talk) 22:31, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
An editor has suggested here that sources that are Israeli or Jewish newspapers are of questionable reliability. -- 2603:7000:2143:8500:7913:1C16:7EF2:49A9 ( talk) 05:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Following recent disaster in Meron, Hillula of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai is proposed to be merged into Tomb of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai. You can participate here. -- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 20:52, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
I've tagged the MV Missourian (1921) article for this WP as she was used to transport Jewish migrants from Argentina and Tunisia to Israel. There may be some categories that need to be added to the article, so please feel free to add them. Mjroots ( talk) 19:07, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Dybbuk 27,001 900 Stub-- Coin945 ( talk) 14:46, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
This article could use some attention if anyone from this project has time. It would be nice to get rid of that tag that has been there for five years. 4meter4 ( talk) 15:17, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
As I read through the articles of Tanakh and Ketuvim, I noticed that much of it was clearly written by Christians. For instance, "Song of Songs" was frequently written as "Song of Solomon", despite (from my experience) no Jew ever referring to it as such. Obviously, Christians call it "Song of Solomon", but these are articles specifically written about Judaism. Does anyone have any thoughts on this matter? Painting17 ( talk) 15:31, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Is there any systematic information in Wikipedia about the differing order of books in versions (Masoretic, Septuagint, etc.) of the Hebrew Bible (Christian Old Testament)? I haven't found anything, although a few articles do mention the existence of ordering differences. I propose that we start an article on this topic, provisionally "Book order in the Hebrew Bible". Any thoughts? Any offers? Feline Hymnic ( talk) 12:56, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi! Is anyone available to lend an eye to this article? It needs a new name for sure, but I'm not sure what that should be. Jewish community of Louisville, Kentucky? Possibly Orthodox Jewish community? There doesn't seem to be anything about this neighborhood having a name, Dutchman's Lane could possibly also work since the businesses seemed centered around it, although the synagogue has moved. Thanks! Not watching here, so please ping if needed. Star Mississippi 18:16, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
On the Languages panel in the sidebar of the article Jerusalem Faction (a community in Israel), the article was linked to the Hebrew article he:בני תורה (מפלגה), about the Jerusalem Faction's political party. However, a Hebrew article about the actual community was recently written – he:הפלג הירושלמי – and the English article should therefore be relinked. Can anyone take care of that? Charlie Smith FDTB ( talk) 19:49, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
This article Remphan, relating to an obscure idol mentioned in the old testament, has been filled with self-published sources and wikisource articles, and basically turned into a long conspiracy theory rant with sections like this:
"In the modern age, some have associated the Zionist emphasis on the Star of David to represent Judaism as being related to this scriptural "Star of Remphan" that was condemned as idolatry. It has also been suggested as an "obscure" reference to the Antichrist, or by the Jewish Encyclopedia as being a reference to a "Star of Abomination".
The section above uses as a reference a self-published source. I removed the non reliably-sourced material, only to see the editor who added them (and this is the only article he's edited) revert my edits. Any additional input would be appreciated. Drsmoo ( talk) 02:22, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
I've just now reviewed the results of someone moving the page Cantillation to Hebrew cantillation. While saying cantillation is a broader subject and needs a disambiguation page sounds fine, the fact that they moved the page in 2019 without fixing any of the ~260 usages of the link Cantillation is beyond distressing. I've found only 3 of those 260 that aren't actually about Hebrew cantillation.
Having now ranted at that soul, I'm too disheartened to approach the repair work needed. If any of y'all can think who or what group might want to fix all this, please pass this disaster description onwards to them. I suppose AWB might be in order, but sheesh, the mess people make! Depressing. Shenme ( talk) 06:47, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
am not Jewish, and have little experience with the Jewish script and language. however am trying to compile an HTML page with verses from the Hebrew Scriptures, on my mobile phone, that is a learning exercise on small part of the Hebrew alphabet..ideally would like to copy the verses from a reputable website, with an accurate edition of the Hebrew Masoretic text, and all the diacritic marks..would appreciate some guidelines on where to start, how to do this.. Gfigs ( talk) 19:39, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Non-canonical,
Non-canonical books and one other. The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 26#Non-canonical until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are urged to contribute to the discussion.
Johnbod (
talk)
16:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
Could someone with a knowledge of Hebrew and/or Aramaic please check the first sentence of Twelve Minor Prophets. A title is given in Aramaic, but I suspect that is a mistake and in fact it is in Hebrew. Adpete ( talk) 03:17, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
The Jews in Jazz page is a work in progress. Anyone want to help expand and reorganize it?
Also... should it be linked to this project somehow? -- Bob drobbs ( talk) 05:43, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
I would like to call attention to Abraham's family tree because the family tree as I see it is wrong according to Torah. There is no mention of Keturah and her sons. I feel this is very important to change as Abraham was the first Hebrew and the first patriarch of the Jewish Nation. I just don't know how to do it as it seems that the tree is somehow already set without parts in the edit. Thanks. Vinnypatel ( talk) 15:34, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
I reverted this but it's been reinstated by User:Teertrevo. [1] It's also been added to the "body" section of Adam but I think that without discussion it's almost trivia, but that is a different issue from calling it a tradition. Doug Weller talk 14:21, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
There is a Requested Move discussion open at Talk:39_Melachot#Requested_move_29_November_2021 that would benefit from the opinions of members of this WikiProject. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 18:53, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
Schazjmd reasonably WP:PRODded this recently and it intrigued me so I went digging. I'm out of my depth on the ancient Jewish literature part of this article (and more generally) and could use some help.
Here's what I think is going on. Form critics including Hermann Gunkel and Sigmund Mowinckel think that parts of Psalms and other ancient Jewish literature should be characterized as "wisdom poetry". Medievalists have described unrelated poems, written in Old Norse and Old English, among other old Germanic languages, as "wisdom poetry".
I have questions. First, is either of these a coherent genre? The first in particular worries me because I doubt that a genre identified only by an outmoded form of biblical criticism is worthy of an article or section in the here and now. Second, am I right in thinking that these two uses of "wisdom poetry" are totally different? AleatoryPonderings ( ???) ( !!!) 22:59, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
The above article makes no mention of the historical doubts surrounding the existence/nature of Solomon's Temple. In the archeology section it states:
Archaeological excavations have found remnants of both the First Temple and Second Temple. Among the artifacts of the First Temple are dozens of ritual immersion or baptismal pools in this area surrounding the Temple Mount, as well as a large square platform identified by architectural archaeologist Leen Ritmeyer as likely being built by King Hezekiah c. 700 BCE as a gathering area in front of the Temple.
Yet, the Solomon's Temple article says this:
Because of the religious and political sensitivities involved, no archaeological excavations and only limited surface surveys of the Temple Mount have been conducted since Charles Warren's expedition of 1867–70. There is no solid archaeological evidence for the existence of Solomon's Temple, and the building is not mentioned in surviving extra-biblical accounts, save for perhaps a single fragmented ostracon, which mentions a "house of Yahweh" without any further specification. Furthermore, there is no evidence for monumental building techniques in Judah before the 7th century BCE, while Solomon himself has been described as little more than a hill country chieftain.
I'm not really sure how to reconcile these two articles. -- Puzzledvegetable Is it teatime already? 03:36, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi. I hope that this project is the right place for this, as the Kabbalah project is inactive. I noticed that we have various unsourced stubs (some of them just one line) about various Qliphoth/Qliphah: Thamiel, Golachab, Thagirion, Gha'agsheblah, Ghagiel, A'arab Zaraq and Gamaliel (Qliphah). It seems to me that unless these really are all individually notable concepts that can be expanded into meaningful articles, it probably makes more sense to merge them into the main Qliphoth article, ideally in a way that is sourced. But I know nothing about Kabbalah, so I'm hoping that someone who does can take a look at these and see if my assessment is correct, and maybe even perform the merges. Thanks! Lennart97 ( talk) 18:12, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Input and contributions will be appreciated at Draft:Jews and Christmas, where work is ongoing. Thank you! ezlev ( user/ tlk/ ctrbs) 17:07, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Should it be Category:Jewish films or Category:Films about Jews and Judaism. See this discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:14, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
There is a discussion, with different views, as to whether to rename the title of a wikipedia article to that of the synagogue that it is, here. -- 2603:7000:2143:8500:A943:46:CC9F:B993 ( talk) 00:06, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
I have left a comment about the way that Template:Hebrew month is constructed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates#About Template:Hebrew month and Template:Hijri month. If you are interested in the template, please see there. ~Cheers, Ten Ton Parasol 02:11, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
If anyone is interested in contributing, there is an ongoing discussion at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2022_January_18#Template:Judeo-Christian_navboxes. – Ploni ( talk) 17:44, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
I think I really need someone who understands how categories work better than I do. I reverted User:Shandor Newman yesterday [2] but I don't feel sure that either version is correct. I do think that "originated from" is better than "descended from" but I'm not sure about the issues relating to cats, subcats, diffusion, etc. Doug Weller talk 16:03, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
I think "descended" sounds better than "originated" as Jewish identity is based primarily on us being the progeny of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Israel was the name given to Jacob after his wrestle with the angel, which plays a big part in the Jewish origin story and our identity as a nation. Throughout our history, Jews have identified as 1) a nation (sometimes in exile), 2) an ethnic group (through matrilineal lineage), and 3) a religious group (Klal Yisrael), so the ethnoreligious category is technically correct. Pious Brother ( talk) 20:41, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
How did these images come to be associated with the Judaism Wikiproject?
I posted this in April 2021, and no one has responded: Can we remove these images and replace them with something that represents this Wikiproject? Or at least, with something neutral that DOES NOT associate this project with the American military industrial complex, or with an alternate religion, or with the scoffing at the readership for no particular reason? Thank you for the consideration.
See also: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Judaism/Archive_37#Uncle_Sam_and_Laughing_Quaker_!=_Judaism. Therefore I will remove them. Perhaps an image of a menorah, or a torah scroll, or the two stone tables, or an olive branch, or something anything rather than an image of a human being would be more appropriate to this project. Proposals? I will wait for a consensus from the community before adding a replacement. Regards, Jaredscribe ( talk) 23:29, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
There's a question as to whether Shia LaBeouf should be considered under the auspices of this project. Interested editors are invited to contribute to the discussion here: Talk:Shia LaBeouf#This article should be removed from "Judaism project". Cheers! DonIago ( talk) 04:19, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure about the issue, although he's clearly done it at least once changing sourced text, edit warring over this since the 9th. [3] He's also adding original research. [4] [5] Other instances. [6] [7] [8] I'll tell him about this discussion. Doug Weller talk 07:26, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Mimi Reinhardt, the secretary of Oskar Schindler, has died. She was the one who actually typed up his lists. There is some mixed information out there about her role. Thriley ( talk) 16:24, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
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This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm looking for peer reviews of our article on the American public intellectual
Paul Goodman, a prominent New York Jew who
wrote on Judaism and whose brother becamea a prominent
a synagogue builder, if anyone would be so inclined:
Wikipedia:Peer review/Paul Goodman/archive1. No prior experience necessary—just want to know how it reads for a general audience, given that the content gets a bit obtuse.
czar
19:11, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
The distinction between the scopes of antisemitic canards and stereotypes of Jews is not clear. Would anyone like to take a stab at improving or clarifying it? {{u| Sdkb}} talk 22:06, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Greetings Wikipedians! I've just finished some work on the Bethel (god) article, as described on that article's talk page. I welcome any comments. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 ( talk) 19:37, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
Nevi'im, as I understand it, comprises the Former Prophets (Joshua, Judges, Samuel, Kings) and the Latter Prophets (Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, the Twelve minor prophets).
But several articles also mention the "Later Prophets", spelt with single-t rather than double-t. Is this the same thing as the "Latter Prophets"? Should I create a "Later Prophets" redirect? And should we then start wikilinking the hitherto unlinked uses of the term "Later Prophets"?
If the two terms are different, then perhaps a description of the difference is needed in, for instance, the Nevi'im article.
Feline Hymnic ( talk) 21:07, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
The picture File:Rabbi Samson R Hirsch Yeshiva - 85-93 Bennett Av jeh.jpg is featured on the page Yeshiva Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch. However, from what I understand, the building in the picture is in fact the synagogue Khal Adath Jeshurun which is located next door. I believe the correct image would actually be File:Yeshiva Hirsch Bennett Av 186 St jeh.jpg. Should the photo on the Yeshiva Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch be switched? Thanks, Charlie Smith FDTB ( talk) 01:35, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
I am a categoriser. I dont know much about Judaism. The article Orthodox Judaism gives me the impression that orthodoxy is a relatively modern thing, but looking at articles about mediaeval rabbis many of them are in Category:Orthodox rabbis - even though few of the articles mention orthodoxy. Should we remove these orthodox categories? Rathfelder ( talk) 18:25, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Orthodox Judaism is the collective term for the traditionalist and theologically conservative branches of contemporary Judaism. Theologically, it is chiefly defined by regarding the Torah, both Written and Oral, as revealed by God to Moses on Mount Sinai and faithfully transmitted ever since. Orthodox Judaism therefore advocates a strict observance of Jewish law, or halakha, which is to be interpreted and determined exclusively according to traditional methods and in adherence to the continuum of received precedent through the ages. It regards the entire halakhic system as ultimately grounded in immutable revelation, and beyond external influence. Key practices are observing the Sabbath, eating kosher, and Torah study. Key doctrines include a future Messiah who will restore Jewish practice by building the temple in Jerusalem and gather all the Jews to Israel, belief in a future bodily resurrection of the dead, divine reward and punishment for the righteous and the sinners.GordonGlottal ( talk) 22:49, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
The article Jews in Hong Kong is currently undergoing peer review here. Any feedback is appreciated. — Golden call me maybe? 15:23, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi. Are there any project coordinators, or simply some active project members here, whom I can discuss some general ideas with? I am working on a few different resources, designed to promote collaboration and communication throughout the communtiy in a wide variety of ways. I have been editing Wikipedia for over fifteen years. I would be glad to describe my ideas, simply by opening a discussion here on this talk page. could you please simply let me know who might be here and active on this page, who might be willing to discuss some ideas?
I greatly appreciate it. by the way, I live in Brooklyn, NY. Also, I am the Lead Project Coordinator at WikiProject History. I am hoping to discuss some possible areas for collaboration, plus some possible ideas and methods to promote greater community collaboration. thanks very much!! Sm8900 ( talk) 14:01, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Hello WikiProject Judaism, there is an unsalting request open at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Decrease. The prior deletion and protection was related to disruptive editors back in 2007. Is there still a good reason to prevent this category from being used? Feedback is welcome at the discussion. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 13:57, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles for deletion:
The above articles, under this project, are currently being considered for deletion (see discussion HERE), following the deletion of the Judo at the 2005 Maccabiah Games article. Some of the deletion supporters argue that ALL "SPORT at the YEAR Maccabiah Games" article should be deleted, not just the judo ones. Feel free to join the discussion. CLalgo ( talk) 07:07, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Please contribute to this new article draft on Jews of Color. Coin945 ( talk) 19:59, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Please review and copyedit this article so we can get it out of draft and into the mainspace. Coin945 ( talk) 15:12, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Please can you have a look at this stub and help improve it?-- Coin945 ( talk) 15:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Hello, there is an AFD that apparently was put into through any deletion sorting that might be of interest. You can find it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Children of Eber. Liz Read! Talk! 01:52, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
The AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Football at the 2001 Maccabiah Games may well be of interest to some here. 2603:7000:2143:8500:401A:1701:C4F5:B270 ( talk) 06:55, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
The renaming discussion at Talk:Zionist antisemitism#Requested move 8 September 2022 may be of interest. Input is most welcome. ➤ Ploni 💬 ➤ 14:02, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
Hello all, I recently had a request on my talk page from a @ Rashiyisroel: who would like their own biography reinstating. Due to a variety of other pressures I'm not able to spend time looking into the case, and I wondered if it was something that was already familiar to editors here. Their posted request is on my talk page. Many thanks Lajmmoore ( talk) 11:22, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Editors here may be interested in participating in several ongoing discussions at Talk:Alice Walker. GordonGlottal ( talk) 20:42, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Mamzer § Halakhic definitions currently contains the following two sentences, one in its first and one in its last paragraph, both of which cite the exact same source:
According to the Shulchan Aruch, a mamzer can only be produced by two Jews. [1]
However, the child of a female mamzer and a non-Jewish man is a mamzer. [2]
The article is of high importance and the subject matter is extremely far outside of my expertise or comfort zone, so I have not edited the section, but the sentences as they currently stand are blatantly contradictory. I would appreciate attention from a topic expert. Thepsyborg ( talk) 06:23, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
References
There is a proposal on the talk page of Who is a Jew? to merge that article into the Jewish identity article. Input from regular editors of this WikiProject or those knowledgeable about the subject matter would be greatly appreciated. QueenofBithynia ( talk) 00:13, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
All about Jews and the slave trade. [11]. Doug Weller talk 11:37, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
The overall level of verification on Mishnah is patchy at best. It is presumably all very verifiable, however, so if someone has the time, energy and knowhow ... Iskandar323 ( talk) 08:23, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
This reddit thread appears to point to some issues at History of the Jews in Hungary; I see Czello and some others have been editing/discussing there, and the page could perhaps use some additional eyes/help. Best, {{u| Sdkb}} talk 18:38, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
Can someone clued up on transliteration and usage please have a very quick look at Talk:Frum#tzniut/Tziniut spellings and caps consistency? I've asked the question there but that Talk page is not exactly about to burst into flames from the heavy editing it gets, so if you had a moment? Believe me, it is better than leaving me to decide! Cheers DBaK ( talk) 12:11, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Over the past few months, I've slowly been working on an article on the composer/lyricist/artist Chanale, which I finally moved to the namespace today. I picked up the article after someone else started it, so some of the original references use cite web/news instead of the general quick ref (which is my go-to). I think the code is good, overall, but could probably still use some cleanup. Any additional review is also appreciated. GreenEli ( talk) 18:57, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:History of the Jews in Chicago#Requested move 5 December 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 14:36, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Haifa has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke ( talk) 18:26, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
I’m asking you a question who is Agur? 2600:6C5A:637F:CE3C:877:BDDB:6B34:674A ( talk) 14:35, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Over on the article for Chemy Soibelman, another editor (who I have to assume isn't super knowledgeable about Judaism) contested the subject being categorized as an Orthodox Jew since the article doesn't directly state that. I pointed out that a guy named Nechemia Soibelman, who has almost exclusively played in Orthodox Jewish and Israeli bands (including the Orthodox wedding band Blue Melody), who lists Yaakov Shwekey as an influence, and who is wearing a yarmulke in pretty much every photo available online being Jewish is a pretty reasonable assumption that wouldn't require spelling out for someone knowledgeable in this area (for context, I'm Jewish of Orthodox background). The other editor held their ground, insisting on a source, so to appease them I dug up this post from the subject's Instagram, where he is pictured wearing a kippah, tefillin, and tallit, and the caption is full of expressions like "hashem took your neshama to gan eden" and "daven for klal yisrael" and "may your neshama have an aliya" - all of which, to anyone familiar with Orthodox Judaism, pretty explicitly identifies him as part of it (or I guess a really dedicated Messianic). The other editor dismissed this as OR because, in their words, "just because he talks about jewish holidays or wears garb that Jewish people sometimes wear doesn't mean he's Jewish". *sigh*
Main thing I'm looking for here is a) affirmation that I'm not crazy and all of the above should be enough for a knowledgeable audience without needing a source to spell out "This person is an Orthodox Jew", and b) if someone from this project who is knowledgeable could at least watchlist that article and be prepared to serve as a third opinion if that editor decides to start this up again, that'd be incredibly helpful. Invisiboy42293 ( talk) 22:30, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
I'm going to start this off with apologies if I should be replying to the now-archived discussion I started on this article earlier.
I just finished up a complete overhaul of the article on American-Israeli singer Chanale that I'd been working on. Following its deletion and return to draft space, I took the time to dig deep into the details left over from the article's creator and original authors. I also corrected a bunch of errors in the details, about timing of things in her life, album release dates and whatnot. I think I've taken the entire tone and view of the article in a far better direction.
I still wasn't entirely sure what to do about some related items that don't directly reference her, so I put some in external links, and linked some others (mostly the mentioned podcast episodes) within the article itself. Sadly, I know that there was a feature done on her in Ami Living Magazine's Shabbos Chanukah 2021 issue but haven't been able to get my hands on a physical or digital copy to see for myself. From other features I've seen from the magazine, there's usually quite a lot from which to pull.
Still, I submitted the article to AfC. I'd love to get input on the new version, especially compared to the original. TIA GreenEli ( talk) 17:05, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Project-independent quality assessments. This proposes support for quality assessment at the article level, recorded in {{ WikiProject banner shell}}, and inherited by the wikiproject banners. However, wikiprojects that prefer to use custom approaches to quality assessment can continue to do so. Aymatth2 ( talk) 20:41, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Hello, friends. An article I created, Kokebe Yizhak, based on The Jewish Encyclopedia article "KOKEBE YIẒḤAḲ", was recently moved to draftspace. My personal opinion is that if it was perfectly fine for The Jewish Encyclopedia, than it should be perfectly fine for Wikipedia as well. I wouldn’t disagree if it would be tagged with Template:One source, but I don’t think it deserves to be moved to draftspace. What do you think? Or is someone willing to add other sources and/or otherwise make it ready for mainspace? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. -- -- -- 20:13, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Is anyone willing to assist in making this draft ready for mainspace? Thanks, -- -- -- 20:50, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
The article on Black Hebrew Israelites has multiple issues that need to be addressed to avoid racial bias on Wikipedia. The BHIs originated at a time when many white Christian denominations preached that Black people are the cursed descendants of Ham. That is the historical backdrop of the BHI claim that Black people are not only NOT cursed, but rather the chosen. That this historical background information is never mentioned in the article is astounding and is evidence that the article is insufficient. That the voices of actual Black Jews are mentioned nowhere in the article is another glaring omission. Black Jewish writers such as Shais Rishon, and I'm sure others, have written about the BHI appropriation of Black Jewish identity. The sentence in the opening paragraph about the SPLC considering BHIs to collectively constitute a "hate group" is contextless and inadequate. The SPLC states on their website that "SPLC uses the term Radical Hebrew Israelite to differentiate from the greater Hebrew Israelite faith...SPLC no longer refers to these groups as solely Black Hebrew Israelites...there are non-radical sects of the Hebrew Israelite faith who identify as Black Hebrew Israelites". This indicates that the SPLC distinguishes between extremist and non-extremist BHI sects, a nuance the current sentence obscures. These issues must be addressed to avoid anti-Blackness, stereotyping, and the erasure of Black Jews. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 04:41, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Yehuda Amit has been proposed for deletion. Is anyone willing to assist? Thanks, -- -- -- 22:13, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Today is the Fast of Esther, and in its honor I have undertaken to WP:Boldly rewrite that article's lede sentence and section, along with those of several other articles of major importance to this project: antisemitism and antijudaism, and quite a few others as well, following the leading critical theory of David Nirenberg § Anti-judaism, which should be read closely and cited all over wikipedia in the coming years. They all need more work in the article bodies, but I hope this breaks the ice. Chag purim sameach, Jaredscribe ( talk) 00:07, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
The Jewish section of the Supremacism article is a hot mess of antisemitism. The portion on outreach to Noahides was claiming that Orthodox Judaism, or sects of it, are "racist" and believe non-Jews are "racially" inferior. I've removed some of the more outrageous language, but the entire section needs a clean-up. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 08:17, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
"Today, nearly 2,000 Filipinos consider themselves members of the ‘‘Children of Noah,’’ a new Judaic faith that is growing into the tens of thousands worldwide as ex-Christians encounter forms of Jewish learning online.
Under the tutelage of Orthodox Jewish rabbis, Filipino ‘‘Noahides,’’ as they call themselves, study Torah, observe the Sabbath, and passionately support a form of messianic Zionism.Filipino Noahidesbelieve that Jews are a racially superior people, with an innate ability to access divinity.According to their rabbi mentors, they are forbidden from performing Jewish rituals and even reading certain Jewish texts.These restrictions have necessitated the creation of new, distinctly Noahide ritual practices and prayers modeled after Jewish ones. Filipino Noahidesare practicing a new faith that also affirms the superiority of Judaism and Jewish biblical right to the Land of Israel, in line with the aims of the growing messianic Third Temple Movement in Jerusalem." [3]
Is anyone willing to assist? Thanks, -- -- -- 22:17, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Your comments and input on proposed changes to the lead section of the Psalms article would be appreciated at: Talk:Psalms#Proposed_changes_to_the_Lead.
-- Chefallen ( talk) 15:50, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
1 Nisan began at sundown this evening.
Happy new year, ye priests, pilgrims, kings, and holy beggars!. Don't forget to fix your calendar.
Jaredscribe ( talk) 04:29, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
Hello folks, I think I may have posted about this article in past years in this talk page or maybe another Jewish-related one. Anyhow this week I tried to make some scholarly improvements to the article Badchen and I found some nice public domain postcard illustrations to decorate the article, and rearranged the content somewhat. The two things I would be happy to get help on are current day Chassidic badchnonim, which in past years we had a hard time finding reputable sources about, and also feel free to add anything about their religious or social function in past centuries which I don't feel I fully understand even after researching it a while. Dan Carkner ( talk) 16:31, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
The discussion here, at Talk:Leo Frank, may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 23:21, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Hi, I just reverted some edits to the List of Jewish states and dynasties that I found less than neutral. I think that there is some bias that needs to be corrected in the list, but that process should not introduce more bias than it removes. I have invited the editor in question to discuss proposed changes on the article's talk page. I ask those on this project to monitor the article & to engage in constructive discussion on how to improve this list article. Peaceray ( talk) 14:41, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
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User:DGG has recently passed away, but he left behind partially completed userspace drafts that may be of interest to this project:
Please see if anything can be done with this content. Thanks. BD2412 T 17:18, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
This discussion on whether/how to include an IP's addition to the article Moloch might be of interest to members of this project.-- Ermenrich ( talk) 13:27, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Rachel#Requested move 24 April 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – Material Works 11:57, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Apocalypse#Requested move 4 May 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – Material Works 21:00, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
Discussion about including the story about Muhammad being poisoned by a Jewish woman, Zaynab bint Al-Harith, in Muhammad, for the interested. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 08:52, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
One of my friends has this to say about this article:
"The article does not mention that the Tomb of the Patriarchs, which is in Hebron, is also a contested site between Jews and Muslims probably because it is not subject to the same agreements. The article also seems to omit that Muslims do have a history of taking other peoples' holy sites into MUslim sites (like the Temple Mount and the Tomb of the Patriarchs) building mosques on them and claiming they are Muslim holy sites. In fact, it is now fashionable amongst the anti-Israel Arabs to claim that the Jews never had a Temple on the Temple Mount despite the literary and archeological evidence that we did. Part of my point is that these days, everything in the Middle East has been politicized. I noticed, for instance that the third paragraph refers to the "1947-1948 Palestine war" by which I assume they mean Israel's War of Independence, in which invading Arab armies, sworn to the destruction of Israel at its birth, invaded Israel. As to the battles between the Christian sects, it might make sense to think of those as battles over authenticity, over who the "real" Christians with the proper doctrine are. In any event, be well."
He's not up for editing the article, and I don't have the background knowledge, but maybe someone here would like to take a crack at it. Wordsoutloud ( talk) 15:19, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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An RfC of possible interest to the editors of this article can be found here.
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I tidied up Creed, which focuses on Christian creeds but also lists an argument for a Jewish creed with no source and vague textual references. That argument needs some eyes and verification. Pingnova ( talk) 00:39, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:History of the Jews in Turkey#Requested move 21 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:00, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
If this book is very important, how come it is not part of the Old Testament?or the Bible? Please don't get me wrong, all book are important once it serve the right purpose... Knowledge process ( talk) 03:08, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Does WikiProject Judaism or WikiProject Jewish history have guidelines for when to classify subjects of biographic articles as "Jewish", "people of Jewish descent", etc? I have not seen any such guidance. I have noticed that many editors, who may be coming from a non-Jewish perspective and may not understand Jewish identity, inaccurately classify many Jews as non-Jews. I have seen Jewish descriptors removed from articles about secular Jews, formerly religious Jews referred to as "former Jews", and so forth. I have seen people placed into categories as being merely "people of Jewish descent", when they are indeed Jews. These presumably non-Jewish editors seem to not comprehend that Jewish identity is not only a religious identity, but a socio-cultural and ethnic identity as well. I have also seen non-Jewish Messianic Christians classified as Jews, when Jewish communities and Jewish movements overwhelmingly reject this self-identification.
One more issue; the categories for Ashkenazim, Sephardim, etc. There seems to be no guidance for when to classify a person as Ashkenazi or Sephardi. The categories are currently organized according to ancestry. People with both Ashkenazi and Sephardi ancestors are typically categorized as both. Ashkenazi and Sephardi identity is more complicated than that. Being Ashkenazi or Sephardi can be considered a person's minhag, their ethnicity, or both. An Ashkenazi Orthodox woman who marries a Sephardi man may adopt her husband's minhag and consider herself Sephardi. A person with mixed ancestry and an Ashkenazi father may only consider themselves Ashkenazi, due to minhag being passed down on the patrilineal line. A convert through Chabad will adopt an Ashkenazic minhag. I think it would be useful to clarify these distinctions in articles and categories and clearly state how we are classifying people.
For these reasons and others, I think it could be useful to have inclusive but clear guidelines for determining Jewish identity. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 10:02, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Lithuanian Jews#Requested move 30 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky ( talk) 15:35, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion around changing the name of the page from History of the Jews and Judaism in the Land of Israel to “History of the Jews and Judaism in Israel-Palestine. This may be of interest to members of this wikiproject. Mistamystery ( talk) 18:17, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Is Mashriqi Jews a salvagable article, or should it be AfD'd? Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:13, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
I have created a long overdue article, Judaism in association football - any help expanding it is much welcome. Giant Snowman 18:14, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello - I have proposed a merger of Antisemitism in the United States in the 21st century into Antisemitism in the United States as I don't see any reason why this should be split or duplicated. If anyone from this WikiProject can help improve the latter article (i.e. providing more of a historical background on American antisemitism) or has any other thoughts, they would be very much appreciated at Talk:Antisemitism in the United States. GnocchiFan ( talk) 12:28, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
The Jewish month are traditionally counted from Nissan. Thus, the order of months in Hebrew calendar#Months and in Template:Jewish and Israeli holidays starts from Nissan. However, ever since recent edits by User:Abel Hauer, in the short descriptions, as well as in the {{ Hebrew month}} template, placed at the top of the articles about the Jewish months, they are counted from Tishrei. I propose to change this back as per previous consensus.
In addition, another editor, editing alternately as a registered and an unregistered account, has tried to change the short description so as to reflect both the "ecclesiastic" and the "civil" year, where the "civil" year is considered to start with Tishrei. However, since the months are counted unequivocally from Nissan (as opposed to years), I oppose this. In addition I also oppose this, since it would make the short description too long and detailed. Debresser ( talk) 17:43, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
DYK candidate, and could use more eyes from knowledgeable folks. Andre 🚐 01:01, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
In the talk page of Yosef Mizrachi, there is a question about how Wikipedia treats haskamot/approbations found in books by the subject of the entry (Yosef Mizrachi). One view is that the approbations can be used as a source for their writers' opinions about Mizrachi - is there a standard practice or policy with these approbations? Relatedly, the book in question is published by Haketer institute which one editor believes confers reliability on the approbations. I appreciate that this may be a question for the Reliable Sources noticeboard, but is anyone familiar with this publisher, or can weigh in whether this is valid? Samuelshraga ( talk) 08:33, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
If there is a desire to raise a third question about whether editors are allowed to add their opinions, the answer remains 'no.'No other opinions about reputable sources are allowed on a collaborative project such as Wikipedia? Really?
... the suggestion that publishers do not enhance the credibility of the books they publish doesn't align with convention. Reputable publishers bolster the credibility of the books they publish through rigorous vetting processes. Their involvement and track record contribute significantly to the trustworthiness of the work.Is the Institute for Historical Review therefore also to be considered a publisher which enhances the credibility of books they publish? They publish a lot of books for a niche audience too. They even have an article here. Define rigorous vetting processes. Taking your points at Talk:Yosef Mizrachi § Recent changes to lead and career section a little further, if Willis Carto were to write an approbation for David Irving in which he lauded him as a 'brilliant historian', should we then be able to state this fact in his lead paragraph?
If you have original research suggesting they are unreliable, we're open to seeing it.Who is 'we'? Since almost 3/4 of your edits here have been about Yosef Mizrachi, I will ask you again: Are you editing on behalf of Yosef Mizrachi, his family or his organisation? Havradim leaf a message 00:39, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
The Institute for Historical Review is often seen as an unreliable publisher, raising valid concerns about the trustworthiness of the works it produces.Why do you suppose that might that be? Could it possibly be because they espouse Holocaust denial? Well, this Haketer Institute you are using purportedly agreed to publish Mizrachi, someone who engaged in Holocaust revisionism. Although he apologized, I haven't seen anywhere that he walked back his belief that only 1 million Jews died in the Holocaust. Therefore this source, which you've not even provided a link to in order to verify its veracity anyway (offline—we have to take your word for it) should not be depended on for the above reasons. Havradim leaf a message 07:56, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
He said that not all of the Jews who died in the Holocaust are halachicially Jewish, and he is correct.Do you know what his corrected estimate actually is? Havradim leaf a message 10:21, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
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I'm very new to writing and editing on Wikipedia, and I'm trying to find out more about how biographies are added and sorted, especially in terms of Jewish musicians/performers/entertainers (even more specifically, those in the Orthodox world - Abie Rotenberg, Benny_Friedman_(singer), Mordechai Shapiro, etc.).
I recently submitted my first article, on the singer Shlomo Simcha (I won't be posting the link here without permission, and I don't even know if this is the right place for asking this question), and don't know how or when the draft will be seen for approval, especially as (I assume) it's niche for the general audience and editors.
I also noticed that some of the singers I mentioned, who already have pages, but do not appear in lists of people in their respective categories. Is this because they are not considered to be notable enough?
Thanks in advance, GreenEli ( talk) 15:22, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello all, I was wondering if any of you lovely people could assist me with my AfC draft on the Treblinka camp survivor Chaim Sztajer. I believe he is notable enough to deserve an article however my draft was previously rejected for a lack of reliable sources. If anyone here if from Melbourne Australia you might know him as the creator of the Treblinka camp model at the Jewish Holocaust Centre museum in Elsternwick. My article relies too heavily on a biography of him written by his daughter. I found a few newspaper sources and there are some academic sources I can add but they are all about his life after the Holocaust, not before and during. I really want this article to be approved. Can anyone help me out? Thank you!! Apriljennifer ( talk) 05:43, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
I am trying to expand the preface to Elazar Shach but am facing a brick wall. See talk. Many thanks. Chesdovi ( talk) 00:40, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Category:Jewish composers is up for deletion. As this project's banner was on the category talk page, I am notifying the project about the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 July 27. 4meter4 ( talk) 14:06, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Talk:David via Talk:David#Israelite_monarchs on whether the article Kingdom of Israel (united monarchy) or Kings of Israel and Judah should be linked to the titles of the monarchs that ruled a united Israel. Additional thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Jerm ( talk) 20:34, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
Boker tov everybody! I'm working my way through the massive backlog at articles for creation and there are a couple situations that I'd love to discuss with you.
Any assistance or discussion would be great. Thanks in advance! Bkissin ( talk) 15:05, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Your input is requested at Talk:Yeshivat Netiv Aryeh about the best way to go about portraying abuse allegations that were levelled at the dean. Thank you. Havradim leaf a message 10:51, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
...to do: Homer Hayiuli ( Hyle) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.34.85.148 ( talk) 09:37, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
If it's useful for anyone, I created a talk page editnotice template to gently nudge editors toward using more inclusive holiday greetings. Feel free to adopt it! {{u| Sdkb}} talk 19:43, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
There is a move discussion at Talk:Noach (parsha)#Requested move 17 December 2020 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. The discussion is around whether parsha or parashah is the correct English spelling. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 05:38, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
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23:27, 3 January 2021 (UTC)I would like to use this forum to give praise to User:DayakSibiriak for his many recent quality improvements to Jewish religious movements and other Judaism-related articles. Debresser ( talk) 15:06, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
User:Pretzel butterfly has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Pretzel butterfly ( talk) 22:31, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
An editor has suggested here that sources that are Israeli or Jewish newspapers are of questionable reliability. -- 2603:7000:2143:8500:7913:1C16:7EF2:49A9 ( talk) 05:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Following recent disaster in Meron, Hillula of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai is proposed to be merged into Tomb of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai. You can participate here. -- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 20:52, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
I've tagged the MV Missourian (1921) article for this WP as she was used to transport Jewish migrants from Argentina and Tunisia to Israel. There may be some categories that need to be added to the article, so please feel free to add them. Mjroots ( talk) 19:07, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Dybbuk 27,001 900 Stub-- Coin945 ( talk) 14:46, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
This article could use some attention if anyone from this project has time. It would be nice to get rid of that tag that has been there for five years. 4meter4 ( talk) 15:17, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
As I read through the articles of Tanakh and Ketuvim, I noticed that much of it was clearly written by Christians. For instance, "Song of Songs" was frequently written as "Song of Solomon", despite (from my experience) no Jew ever referring to it as such. Obviously, Christians call it "Song of Solomon", but these are articles specifically written about Judaism. Does anyone have any thoughts on this matter? Painting17 ( talk) 15:31, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Is there any systematic information in Wikipedia about the differing order of books in versions (Masoretic, Septuagint, etc.) of the Hebrew Bible (Christian Old Testament)? I haven't found anything, although a few articles do mention the existence of ordering differences. I propose that we start an article on this topic, provisionally "Book order in the Hebrew Bible". Any thoughts? Any offers? Feline Hymnic ( talk) 12:56, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi! Is anyone available to lend an eye to this article? It needs a new name for sure, but I'm not sure what that should be. Jewish community of Louisville, Kentucky? Possibly Orthodox Jewish community? There doesn't seem to be anything about this neighborhood having a name, Dutchman's Lane could possibly also work since the businesses seemed centered around it, although the synagogue has moved. Thanks! Not watching here, so please ping if needed. Star Mississippi 18:16, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
On the Languages panel in the sidebar of the article Jerusalem Faction (a community in Israel), the article was linked to the Hebrew article he:בני תורה (מפלגה), about the Jerusalem Faction's political party. However, a Hebrew article about the actual community was recently written – he:הפלג הירושלמי – and the English article should therefore be relinked. Can anyone take care of that? Charlie Smith FDTB ( talk) 19:49, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
This article Remphan, relating to an obscure idol mentioned in the old testament, has been filled with self-published sources and wikisource articles, and basically turned into a long conspiracy theory rant with sections like this:
"In the modern age, some have associated the Zionist emphasis on the Star of David to represent Judaism as being related to this scriptural "Star of Remphan" that was condemned as idolatry. It has also been suggested as an "obscure" reference to the Antichrist, or by the Jewish Encyclopedia as being a reference to a "Star of Abomination".
The section above uses as a reference a self-published source. I removed the non reliably-sourced material, only to see the editor who added them (and this is the only article he's edited) revert my edits. Any additional input would be appreciated. Drsmoo ( talk) 02:22, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
I've just now reviewed the results of someone moving the page Cantillation to Hebrew cantillation. While saying cantillation is a broader subject and needs a disambiguation page sounds fine, the fact that they moved the page in 2019 without fixing any of the ~260 usages of the link Cantillation is beyond distressing. I've found only 3 of those 260 that aren't actually about Hebrew cantillation.
Having now ranted at that soul, I'm too disheartened to approach the repair work needed. If any of y'all can think who or what group might want to fix all this, please pass this disaster description onwards to them. I suppose AWB might be in order, but sheesh, the mess people make! Depressing. Shenme ( talk) 06:47, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
am not Jewish, and have little experience with the Jewish script and language. however am trying to compile an HTML page with verses from the Hebrew Scriptures, on my mobile phone, that is a learning exercise on small part of the Hebrew alphabet..ideally would like to copy the verses from a reputable website, with an accurate edition of the Hebrew Masoretic text, and all the diacritic marks..would appreciate some guidelines on where to start, how to do this.. Gfigs ( talk) 19:39, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
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Could someone with a knowledge of Hebrew and/or Aramaic please check the first sentence of Twelve Minor Prophets. A title is given in Aramaic, but I suspect that is a mistake and in fact it is in Hebrew. Adpete ( talk) 03:17, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
The Jews in Jazz page is a work in progress. Anyone want to help expand and reorganize it?
Also... should it be linked to this project somehow? -- Bob drobbs ( talk) 05:43, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
I would like to call attention to Abraham's family tree because the family tree as I see it is wrong according to Torah. There is no mention of Keturah and her sons. I feel this is very important to change as Abraham was the first Hebrew and the first patriarch of the Jewish Nation. I just don't know how to do it as it seems that the tree is somehow already set without parts in the edit. Thanks. Vinnypatel ( talk) 15:34, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
I reverted this but it's been reinstated by User:Teertrevo. [1] It's also been added to the "body" section of Adam but I think that without discussion it's almost trivia, but that is a different issue from calling it a tradition. Doug Weller talk 14:21, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
There is a Requested Move discussion open at Talk:39_Melachot#Requested_move_29_November_2021 that would benefit from the opinions of members of this WikiProject. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 18:53, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
Schazjmd reasonably WP:PRODded this recently and it intrigued me so I went digging. I'm out of my depth on the ancient Jewish literature part of this article (and more generally) and could use some help.
Here's what I think is going on. Form critics including Hermann Gunkel and Sigmund Mowinckel think that parts of Psalms and other ancient Jewish literature should be characterized as "wisdom poetry". Medievalists have described unrelated poems, written in Old Norse and Old English, among other old Germanic languages, as "wisdom poetry".
I have questions. First, is either of these a coherent genre? The first in particular worries me because I doubt that a genre identified only by an outmoded form of biblical criticism is worthy of an article or section in the here and now. Second, am I right in thinking that these two uses of "wisdom poetry" are totally different? AleatoryPonderings ( ???) ( !!!) 22:59, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
The above article makes no mention of the historical doubts surrounding the existence/nature of Solomon's Temple. In the archeology section it states:
Archaeological excavations have found remnants of both the First Temple and Second Temple. Among the artifacts of the First Temple are dozens of ritual immersion or baptismal pools in this area surrounding the Temple Mount, as well as a large square platform identified by architectural archaeologist Leen Ritmeyer as likely being built by King Hezekiah c. 700 BCE as a gathering area in front of the Temple.
Yet, the Solomon's Temple article says this:
Because of the religious and political sensitivities involved, no archaeological excavations and only limited surface surveys of the Temple Mount have been conducted since Charles Warren's expedition of 1867–70. There is no solid archaeological evidence for the existence of Solomon's Temple, and the building is not mentioned in surviving extra-biblical accounts, save for perhaps a single fragmented ostracon, which mentions a "house of Yahweh" without any further specification. Furthermore, there is no evidence for monumental building techniques in Judah before the 7th century BCE, while Solomon himself has been described as little more than a hill country chieftain.
I'm not really sure how to reconcile these two articles. -- Puzzledvegetable Is it teatime already? 03:36, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi. I hope that this project is the right place for this, as the Kabbalah project is inactive. I noticed that we have various unsourced stubs (some of them just one line) about various Qliphoth/Qliphah: Thamiel, Golachab, Thagirion, Gha'agsheblah, Ghagiel, A'arab Zaraq and Gamaliel (Qliphah). It seems to me that unless these really are all individually notable concepts that can be expanded into meaningful articles, it probably makes more sense to merge them into the main Qliphoth article, ideally in a way that is sourced. But I know nothing about Kabbalah, so I'm hoping that someone who does can take a look at these and see if my assessment is correct, and maybe even perform the merges. Thanks! Lennart97 ( talk) 18:12, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Input and contributions will be appreciated at Draft:Jews and Christmas, where work is ongoing. Thank you! ezlev ( user/ tlk/ ctrbs) 17:07, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Should it be Category:Jewish films or Category:Films about Jews and Judaism. See this discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:14, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
There is a discussion, with different views, as to whether to rename the title of a wikipedia article to that of the synagogue that it is, here. -- 2603:7000:2143:8500:A943:46:CC9F:B993 ( talk) 00:06, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
I have left a comment about the way that Template:Hebrew month is constructed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates#About Template:Hebrew month and Template:Hijri month. If you are interested in the template, please see there. ~Cheers, Ten Ton Parasol 02:11, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
If anyone is interested in contributing, there is an ongoing discussion at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2022_January_18#Template:Judeo-Christian_navboxes. – Ploni ( talk) 17:44, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
I think I really need someone who understands how categories work better than I do. I reverted User:Shandor Newman yesterday [2] but I don't feel sure that either version is correct. I do think that "originated from" is better than "descended from" but I'm not sure about the issues relating to cats, subcats, diffusion, etc. Doug Weller talk 16:03, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
I think "descended" sounds better than "originated" as Jewish identity is based primarily on us being the progeny of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Israel was the name given to Jacob after his wrestle with the angel, which plays a big part in the Jewish origin story and our identity as a nation. Throughout our history, Jews have identified as 1) a nation (sometimes in exile), 2) an ethnic group (through matrilineal lineage), and 3) a religious group (Klal Yisrael), so the ethnoreligious category is technically correct. Pious Brother ( talk) 20:41, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
How did these images come to be associated with the Judaism Wikiproject?
I posted this in April 2021, and no one has responded: Can we remove these images and replace them with something that represents this Wikiproject? Or at least, with something neutral that DOES NOT associate this project with the American military industrial complex, or with an alternate religion, or with the scoffing at the readership for no particular reason? Thank you for the consideration.
See also: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Judaism/Archive_37#Uncle_Sam_and_Laughing_Quaker_!=_Judaism. Therefore I will remove them. Perhaps an image of a menorah, or a torah scroll, or the two stone tables, or an olive branch, or something anything rather than an image of a human being would be more appropriate to this project. Proposals? I will wait for a consensus from the community before adding a replacement. Regards, Jaredscribe ( talk) 23:29, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
There's a question as to whether Shia LaBeouf should be considered under the auspices of this project. Interested editors are invited to contribute to the discussion here: Talk:Shia LaBeouf#This article should be removed from "Judaism project". Cheers! DonIago ( talk) 04:19, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure about the issue, although he's clearly done it at least once changing sourced text, edit warring over this since the 9th. [3] He's also adding original research. [4] [5] Other instances. [6] [7] [8] I'll tell him about this discussion. Doug Weller talk 07:26, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Mimi Reinhardt, the secretary of Oskar Schindler, has died. She was the one who actually typed up his lists. There is some mixed information out there about her role. Thriley ( talk) 16:24, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm looking for peer reviews of our article on the American public intellectual
Paul Goodman, a prominent New York Jew who
wrote on Judaism and whose brother becamea a prominent
a synagogue builder, if anyone would be so inclined:
Wikipedia:Peer review/Paul Goodman/archive1. No prior experience necessary—just want to know how it reads for a general audience, given that the content gets a bit obtuse.
czar
19:11, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
The distinction between the scopes of antisemitic canards and stereotypes of Jews is not clear. Would anyone like to take a stab at improving or clarifying it? {{u| Sdkb}} talk 22:06, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Greetings Wikipedians! I've just finished some work on the Bethel (god) article, as described on that article's talk page. I welcome any comments. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 ( talk) 19:37, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
Nevi'im, as I understand it, comprises the Former Prophets (Joshua, Judges, Samuel, Kings) and the Latter Prophets (Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, the Twelve minor prophets).
But several articles also mention the "Later Prophets", spelt with single-t rather than double-t. Is this the same thing as the "Latter Prophets"? Should I create a "Later Prophets" redirect? And should we then start wikilinking the hitherto unlinked uses of the term "Later Prophets"?
If the two terms are different, then perhaps a description of the difference is needed in, for instance, the Nevi'im article.
Feline Hymnic ( talk) 21:07, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
The picture File:Rabbi Samson R Hirsch Yeshiva - 85-93 Bennett Av jeh.jpg is featured on the page Yeshiva Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch. However, from what I understand, the building in the picture is in fact the synagogue Khal Adath Jeshurun which is located next door. I believe the correct image would actually be File:Yeshiva Hirsch Bennett Av 186 St jeh.jpg. Should the photo on the Yeshiva Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch be switched? Thanks, Charlie Smith FDTB ( talk) 01:35, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
I am a categoriser. I dont know much about Judaism. The article Orthodox Judaism gives me the impression that orthodoxy is a relatively modern thing, but looking at articles about mediaeval rabbis many of them are in Category:Orthodox rabbis - even though few of the articles mention orthodoxy. Should we remove these orthodox categories? Rathfelder ( talk) 18:25, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Orthodox Judaism is the collective term for the traditionalist and theologically conservative branches of contemporary Judaism. Theologically, it is chiefly defined by regarding the Torah, both Written and Oral, as revealed by God to Moses on Mount Sinai and faithfully transmitted ever since. Orthodox Judaism therefore advocates a strict observance of Jewish law, or halakha, which is to be interpreted and determined exclusively according to traditional methods and in adherence to the continuum of received precedent through the ages. It regards the entire halakhic system as ultimately grounded in immutable revelation, and beyond external influence. Key practices are observing the Sabbath, eating kosher, and Torah study. Key doctrines include a future Messiah who will restore Jewish practice by building the temple in Jerusalem and gather all the Jews to Israel, belief in a future bodily resurrection of the dead, divine reward and punishment for the righteous and the sinners.GordonGlottal ( talk) 22:49, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
The article Jews in Hong Kong is currently undergoing peer review here. Any feedback is appreciated. — Golden call me maybe? 15:23, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi. Are there any project coordinators, or simply some active project members here, whom I can discuss some general ideas with? I am working on a few different resources, designed to promote collaboration and communication throughout the communtiy in a wide variety of ways. I have been editing Wikipedia for over fifteen years. I would be glad to describe my ideas, simply by opening a discussion here on this talk page. could you please simply let me know who might be here and active on this page, who might be willing to discuss some ideas?
I greatly appreciate it. by the way, I live in Brooklyn, NY. Also, I am the Lead Project Coordinator at WikiProject History. I am hoping to discuss some possible areas for collaboration, plus some possible ideas and methods to promote greater community collaboration. thanks very much!! Sm8900 ( talk) 14:01, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Hello WikiProject Judaism, there is an unsalting request open at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Decrease. The prior deletion and protection was related to disruptive editors back in 2007. Is there still a good reason to prevent this category from being used? Feedback is welcome at the discussion. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 13:57, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles for deletion:
The above articles, under this project, are currently being considered for deletion (see discussion HERE), following the deletion of the Judo at the 2005 Maccabiah Games article. Some of the deletion supporters argue that ALL "SPORT at the YEAR Maccabiah Games" article should be deleted, not just the judo ones. Feel free to join the discussion. CLalgo ( talk) 07:07, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Please contribute to this new article draft on Jews of Color. Coin945 ( talk) 19:59, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Please review and copyedit this article so we can get it out of draft and into the mainspace. Coin945 ( talk) 15:12, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Please can you have a look at this stub and help improve it?-- Coin945 ( talk) 15:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Hello, there is an AFD that apparently was put into through any deletion sorting that might be of interest. You can find it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Children of Eber. Liz Read! Talk! 01:52, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
The AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Football at the 2001 Maccabiah Games may well be of interest to some here. 2603:7000:2143:8500:401A:1701:C4F5:B270 ( talk) 06:55, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
The renaming discussion at Talk:Zionist antisemitism#Requested move 8 September 2022 may be of interest. Input is most welcome. ➤ Ploni 💬 ➤ 14:02, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
Hello all, I recently had a request on my talk page from a @ Rashiyisroel: who would like their own biography reinstating. Due to a variety of other pressures I'm not able to spend time looking into the case, and I wondered if it was something that was already familiar to editors here. Their posted request is on my talk page. Many thanks Lajmmoore ( talk) 11:22, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Editors here may be interested in participating in several ongoing discussions at Talk:Alice Walker. GordonGlottal ( talk) 20:42, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Mamzer § Halakhic definitions currently contains the following two sentences, one in its first and one in its last paragraph, both of which cite the exact same source:
According to the Shulchan Aruch, a mamzer can only be produced by two Jews. [1]
However, the child of a female mamzer and a non-Jewish man is a mamzer. [2]
The article is of high importance and the subject matter is extremely far outside of my expertise or comfort zone, so I have not edited the section, but the sentences as they currently stand are blatantly contradictory. I would appreciate attention from a topic expert. Thepsyborg ( talk) 06:23, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
References
There is a proposal on the talk page of Who is a Jew? to merge that article into the Jewish identity article. Input from regular editors of this WikiProject or those knowledgeable about the subject matter would be greatly appreciated. QueenofBithynia ( talk) 00:13, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
All about Jews and the slave trade. [11]. Doug Weller talk 11:37, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
The overall level of verification on Mishnah is patchy at best. It is presumably all very verifiable, however, so if someone has the time, energy and knowhow ... Iskandar323 ( talk) 08:23, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
This reddit thread appears to point to some issues at History of the Jews in Hungary; I see Czello and some others have been editing/discussing there, and the page could perhaps use some additional eyes/help. Best, {{u| Sdkb}} talk 18:38, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
Can someone clued up on transliteration and usage please have a very quick look at Talk:Frum#tzniut/Tziniut spellings and caps consistency? I've asked the question there but that Talk page is not exactly about to burst into flames from the heavy editing it gets, so if you had a moment? Believe me, it is better than leaving me to decide! Cheers DBaK ( talk) 12:11, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Over the past few months, I've slowly been working on an article on the composer/lyricist/artist Chanale, which I finally moved to the namespace today. I picked up the article after someone else started it, so some of the original references use cite web/news instead of the general quick ref (which is my go-to). I think the code is good, overall, but could probably still use some cleanup. Any additional review is also appreciated. GreenEli ( talk) 18:57, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:History of the Jews in Chicago#Requested move 5 December 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 14:36, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Haifa has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke ( talk) 18:26, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
I’m asking you a question who is Agur? 2600:6C5A:637F:CE3C:877:BDDB:6B34:674A ( talk) 14:35, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Over on the article for Chemy Soibelman, another editor (who I have to assume isn't super knowledgeable about Judaism) contested the subject being categorized as an Orthodox Jew since the article doesn't directly state that. I pointed out that a guy named Nechemia Soibelman, who has almost exclusively played in Orthodox Jewish and Israeli bands (including the Orthodox wedding band Blue Melody), who lists Yaakov Shwekey as an influence, and who is wearing a yarmulke in pretty much every photo available online being Jewish is a pretty reasonable assumption that wouldn't require spelling out for someone knowledgeable in this area (for context, I'm Jewish of Orthodox background). The other editor held their ground, insisting on a source, so to appease them I dug up this post from the subject's Instagram, where he is pictured wearing a kippah, tefillin, and tallit, and the caption is full of expressions like "hashem took your neshama to gan eden" and "daven for klal yisrael" and "may your neshama have an aliya" - all of which, to anyone familiar with Orthodox Judaism, pretty explicitly identifies him as part of it (or I guess a really dedicated Messianic). The other editor dismissed this as OR because, in their words, "just because he talks about jewish holidays or wears garb that Jewish people sometimes wear doesn't mean he's Jewish". *sigh*
Main thing I'm looking for here is a) affirmation that I'm not crazy and all of the above should be enough for a knowledgeable audience without needing a source to spell out "This person is an Orthodox Jew", and b) if someone from this project who is knowledgeable could at least watchlist that article and be prepared to serve as a third opinion if that editor decides to start this up again, that'd be incredibly helpful. Invisiboy42293 ( talk) 22:30, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
I'm going to start this off with apologies if I should be replying to the now-archived discussion I started on this article earlier.
I just finished up a complete overhaul of the article on American-Israeli singer Chanale that I'd been working on. Following its deletion and return to draft space, I took the time to dig deep into the details left over from the article's creator and original authors. I also corrected a bunch of errors in the details, about timing of things in her life, album release dates and whatnot. I think I've taken the entire tone and view of the article in a far better direction.
I still wasn't entirely sure what to do about some related items that don't directly reference her, so I put some in external links, and linked some others (mostly the mentioned podcast episodes) within the article itself. Sadly, I know that there was a feature done on her in Ami Living Magazine's Shabbos Chanukah 2021 issue but haven't been able to get my hands on a physical or digital copy to see for myself. From other features I've seen from the magazine, there's usually quite a lot from which to pull.
Still, I submitted the article to AfC. I'd love to get input on the new version, especially compared to the original. TIA GreenEli ( talk) 17:05, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hello, friends. An article I created, Kokebe Yizhak, based on The Jewish Encyclopedia article "KOKEBE YIẒḤAḲ", was recently moved to draftspace. My personal opinion is that if it was perfectly fine for The Jewish Encyclopedia, than it should be perfectly fine for Wikipedia as well. I wouldn’t disagree if it would be tagged with Template:One source, but I don’t think it deserves to be moved to draftspace. What do you think? Or is someone willing to add other sources and/or otherwise make it ready for mainspace? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. -- -- -- 20:13, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Is anyone willing to assist in making this draft ready for mainspace? Thanks, -- -- -- 20:50, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
The article on Black Hebrew Israelites has multiple issues that need to be addressed to avoid racial bias on Wikipedia. The BHIs originated at a time when many white Christian denominations preached that Black people are the cursed descendants of Ham. That is the historical backdrop of the BHI claim that Black people are not only NOT cursed, but rather the chosen. That this historical background information is never mentioned in the article is astounding and is evidence that the article is insufficient. That the voices of actual Black Jews are mentioned nowhere in the article is another glaring omission. Black Jewish writers such as Shais Rishon, and I'm sure others, have written about the BHI appropriation of Black Jewish identity. The sentence in the opening paragraph about the SPLC considering BHIs to collectively constitute a "hate group" is contextless and inadequate. The SPLC states on their website that "SPLC uses the term Radical Hebrew Israelite to differentiate from the greater Hebrew Israelite faith...SPLC no longer refers to these groups as solely Black Hebrew Israelites...there are non-radical sects of the Hebrew Israelite faith who identify as Black Hebrew Israelites". This indicates that the SPLC distinguishes between extremist and non-extremist BHI sects, a nuance the current sentence obscures. These issues must be addressed to avoid anti-Blackness, stereotyping, and the erasure of Black Jews. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 04:41, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Yehuda Amit has been proposed for deletion. Is anyone willing to assist? Thanks, -- -- -- 22:13, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Today is the Fast of Esther, and in its honor I have undertaken to WP:Boldly rewrite that article's lede sentence and section, along with those of several other articles of major importance to this project: antisemitism and antijudaism, and quite a few others as well, following the leading critical theory of David Nirenberg § Anti-judaism, which should be read closely and cited all over wikipedia in the coming years. They all need more work in the article bodies, but I hope this breaks the ice. Chag purim sameach, Jaredscribe ( talk) 00:07, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
The Jewish section of the Supremacism article is a hot mess of antisemitism. The portion on outreach to Noahides was claiming that Orthodox Judaism, or sects of it, are "racist" and believe non-Jews are "racially" inferior. I've removed some of the more outrageous language, but the entire section needs a clean-up. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 08:17, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
"Today, nearly 2,000 Filipinos consider themselves members of the ‘‘Children of Noah,’’ a new Judaic faith that is growing into the tens of thousands worldwide as ex-Christians encounter forms of Jewish learning online.
Under the tutelage of Orthodox Jewish rabbis, Filipino ‘‘Noahides,’’ as they call themselves, study Torah, observe the Sabbath, and passionately support a form of messianic Zionism.Filipino Noahidesbelieve that Jews are a racially superior people, with an innate ability to access divinity.According to their rabbi mentors, they are forbidden from performing Jewish rituals and even reading certain Jewish texts.These restrictions have necessitated the creation of new, distinctly Noahide ritual practices and prayers modeled after Jewish ones. Filipino Noahidesare practicing a new faith that also affirms the superiority of Judaism and Jewish biblical right to the Land of Israel, in line with the aims of the growing messianic Third Temple Movement in Jerusalem." [3]
Is anyone willing to assist? Thanks, -- -- -- 22:17, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Your comments and input on proposed changes to the lead section of the Psalms article would be appreciated at: Talk:Psalms#Proposed_changes_to_the_Lead.
-- Chefallen ( talk) 15:50, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
1 Nisan began at sundown this evening.
Happy new year, ye priests, pilgrims, kings, and holy beggars!. Don't forget to fix your calendar.
Jaredscribe ( talk) 04:29, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
Hello folks, I think I may have posted about this article in past years in this talk page or maybe another Jewish-related one. Anyhow this week I tried to make some scholarly improvements to the article Badchen and I found some nice public domain postcard illustrations to decorate the article, and rearranged the content somewhat. The two things I would be happy to get help on are current day Chassidic badchnonim, which in past years we had a hard time finding reputable sources about, and also feel free to add anything about their religious or social function in past centuries which I don't feel I fully understand even after researching it a while. Dan Carkner ( talk) 16:31, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
The discussion here, at Talk:Leo Frank, may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 23:21, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Hi, I just reverted some edits to the List of Jewish states and dynasties that I found less than neutral. I think that there is some bias that needs to be corrected in the list, but that process should not introduce more bias than it removes. I have invited the editor in question to discuss proposed changes on the article's talk page. I ask those on this project to monitor the article & to engage in constructive discussion on how to improve this list article. Peaceray ( talk) 14:41, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Talk:List of Jewish states and dynasties § Did attempts to change POV in this list go too far & make it more biased?.
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User:DGG has recently passed away, but he left behind partially completed userspace drafts that may be of interest to this project:
Please see if anything can be done with this content. Thanks. BD2412 T 17:18, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
This discussion on whether/how to include an IP's addition to the article Moloch might be of interest to members of this project.-- Ermenrich ( talk) 13:27, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Rachel#Requested move 24 April 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – Material Works 11:57, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Apocalypse#Requested move 4 May 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – Material Works 21:00, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
Discussion about including the story about Muhammad being poisoned by a Jewish woman, Zaynab bint Al-Harith, in Muhammad, for the interested. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 08:52, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
One of my friends has this to say about this article:
"The article does not mention that the Tomb of the Patriarchs, which is in Hebron, is also a contested site between Jews and Muslims probably because it is not subject to the same agreements. The article also seems to omit that Muslims do have a history of taking other peoples' holy sites into MUslim sites (like the Temple Mount and the Tomb of the Patriarchs) building mosques on them and claiming they are Muslim holy sites. In fact, it is now fashionable amongst the anti-Israel Arabs to claim that the Jews never had a Temple on the Temple Mount despite the literary and archeological evidence that we did. Part of my point is that these days, everything in the Middle East has been politicized. I noticed, for instance that the third paragraph refers to the "1947-1948 Palestine war" by which I assume they mean Israel's War of Independence, in which invading Arab armies, sworn to the destruction of Israel at its birth, invaded Israel. As to the battles between the Christian sects, it might make sense to think of those as battles over authenticity, over who the "real" Christians with the proper doctrine are. In any event, be well."
He's not up for editing the article, and I don't have the background knowledge, but maybe someone here would like to take a crack at it. Wordsoutloud ( talk) 15:19, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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An RfC of possible interest to the editors of this article can be found here.
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I tidied up Creed, which focuses on Christian creeds but also lists an argument for a Jewish creed with no source and vague textual references. That argument needs some eyes and verification. Pingnova ( talk) 00:39, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:History of the Jews in Turkey#Requested move 21 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:00, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
If this book is very important, how come it is not part of the Old Testament?or the Bible? Please don't get me wrong, all book are important once it serve the right purpose... Knowledge process ( talk) 03:08, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Does WikiProject Judaism or WikiProject Jewish history have guidelines for when to classify subjects of biographic articles as "Jewish", "people of Jewish descent", etc? I have not seen any such guidance. I have noticed that many editors, who may be coming from a non-Jewish perspective and may not understand Jewish identity, inaccurately classify many Jews as non-Jews. I have seen Jewish descriptors removed from articles about secular Jews, formerly religious Jews referred to as "former Jews", and so forth. I have seen people placed into categories as being merely "people of Jewish descent", when they are indeed Jews. These presumably non-Jewish editors seem to not comprehend that Jewish identity is not only a religious identity, but a socio-cultural and ethnic identity as well. I have also seen non-Jewish Messianic Christians classified as Jews, when Jewish communities and Jewish movements overwhelmingly reject this self-identification.
One more issue; the categories for Ashkenazim, Sephardim, etc. There seems to be no guidance for when to classify a person as Ashkenazi or Sephardi. The categories are currently organized according to ancestry. People with both Ashkenazi and Sephardi ancestors are typically categorized as both. Ashkenazi and Sephardi identity is more complicated than that. Being Ashkenazi or Sephardi can be considered a person's minhag, their ethnicity, or both. An Ashkenazi Orthodox woman who marries a Sephardi man may adopt her husband's minhag and consider herself Sephardi. A person with mixed ancestry and an Ashkenazi father may only consider themselves Ashkenazi, due to minhag being passed down on the patrilineal line. A convert through Chabad will adopt an Ashkenazic minhag. I think it would be useful to clarify these distinctions in articles and categories and clearly state how we are classifying people.
For these reasons and others, I think it could be useful to have inclusive but clear guidelines for determining Jewish identity. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 10:02, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Lithuanian Jews#Requested move 30 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky ( talk) 15:35, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion around changing the name of the page from History of the Jews and Judaism in the Land of Israel to “History of the Jews and Judaism in Israel-Palestine. This may be of interest to members of this wikiproject. Mistamystery ( talk) 18:17, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Is Mashriqi Jews a salvagable article, or should it be AfD'd? Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:13, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
I have created a long overdue article, Judaism in association football - any help expanding it is much welcome. Giant Snowman 18:14, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello - I have proposed a merger of Antisemitism in the United States in the 21st century into Antisemitism in the United States as I don't see any reason why this should be split or duplicated. If anyone from this WikiProject can help improve the latter article (i.e. providing more of a historical background on American antisemitism) or has any other thoughts, they would be very much appreciated at Talk:Antisemitism in the United States. GnocchiFan ( talk) 12:28, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
The Jewish month are traditionally counted from Nissan. Thus, the order of months in Hebrew calendar#Months and in Template:Jewish and Israeli holidays starts from Nissan. However, ever since recent edits by User:Abel Hauer, in the short descriptions, as well as in the {{ Hebrew month}} template, placed at the top of the articles about the Jewish months, they are counted from Tishrei. I propose to change this back as per previous consensus.
In addition, another editor, editing alternately as a registered and an unregistered account, has tried to change the short description so as to reflect both the "ecclesiastic" and the "civil" year, where the "civil" year is considered to start with Tishrei. However, since the months are counted unequivocally from Nissan (as opposed to years), I oppose this. In addition I also oppose this, since it would make the short description too long and detailed. Debresser ( talk) 17:43, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
DYK candidate, and could use more eyes from knowledgeable folks. Andre 🚐 01:01, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
In the talk page of Yosef Mizrachi, there is a question about how Wikipedia treats haskamot/approbations found in books by the subject of the entry (Yosef Mizrachi). One view is that the approbations can be used as a source for their writers' opinions about Mizrachi - is there a standard practice or policy with these approbations? Relatedly, the book in question is published by Haketer institute which one editor believes confers reliability on the approbations. I appreciate that this may be a question for the Reliable Sources noticeboard, but is anyone familiar with this publisher, or can weigh in whether this is valid? Samuelshraga ( talk) 08:33, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
If there is a desire to raise a third question about whether editors are allowed to add their opinions, the answer remains 'no.'No other opinions about reputable sources are allowed on a collaborative project such as Wikipedia? Really?
... the suggestion that publishers do not enhance the credibility of the books they publish doesn't align with convention. Reputable publishers bolster the credibility of the books they publish through rigorous vetting processes. Their involvement and track record contribute significantly to the trustworthiness of the work.Is the Institute for Historical Review therefore also to be considered a publisher which enhances the credibility of books they publish? They publish a lot of books for a niche audience too. They even have an article here. Define rigorous vetting processes. Taking your points at Talk:Yosef Mizrachi § Recent changes to lead and career section a little further, if Willis Carto were to write an approbation for David Irving in which he lauded him as a 'brilliant historian', should we then be able to state this fact in his lead paragraph?
If you have original research suggesting they are unreliable, we're open to seeing it.Who is 'we'? Since almost 3/4 of your edits here have been about Yosef Mizrachi, I will ask you again: Are you editing on behalf of Yosef Mizrachi, his family or his organisation? Havradim leaf a message 00:39, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
The Institute for Historical Review is often seen as an unreliable publisher, raising valid concerns about the trustworthiness of the works it produces.Why do you suppose that might that be? Could it possibly be because they espouse Holocaust denial? Well, this Haketer Institute you are using purportedly agreed to publish Mizrachi, someone who engaged in Holocaust revisionism. Although he apologized, I haven't seen anywhere that he walked back his belief that only 1 million Jews died in the Holocaust. Therefore this source, which you've not even provided a link to in order to verify its veracity anyway (offline—we have to take your word for it) should not be depended on for the above reasons. Havradim leaf a message 07:56, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
He said that not all of the Jews who died in the Holocaust are halachicially Jewish, and he is correct.Do you know what his corrected estimate actually is? Havradim leaf a message 10:21, 26 October 2023 (UTC)