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Hi, I recently created an edit notice for a) the "home page" and b) the membership page of the project. I was wondering whether or not (and if so where) anyone else thought more editnotices are needed around the pages related to this WikiProject. Thanks, Magister Scienta talk 03:12, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
I think this very poor stub should probably be a redirect but I'm not sure where, any suggestions? Dougweller ( talk) 11:35, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
This article was deleted in April (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Classic Judaism) on the grounds that it was an essay, not an article. It has recently been recreated by user Rabroy. While I find the thing interesting and, perhaps, even important, I see nothing here that would change that essential determination. There is no indication that this is an analysis or philosophy that has gained any kind of notoriety; there are no declared adherents of classic Judaism, no self-proclaimed Classic Jewish congregations, no rabbinical school. Of the many rabbis identified in the text as adherents of the "classic Jewish" school, none of them, to my knowledge, ever used the term or identified themselves with this ideology.
At the time of the deletion discussion, in conversation on user Rabroy's talk page, I urged him to identify schools or congregations that espoused this ideology explicitly, or to bring critical books and journal articles discussing this philosophy by name. While he has added a great deal to the text as it was then, he has still done none of those things.
I don't want to be the bad guy here, but do others agree that Classic Judaism is still not worthy of an article? -- Ravpapa ( talk) 07:10, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Please see the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Classic Judaism (2nd nomination). Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 11:46, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
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A new template has been created today, Criticism of Judaism. As you can see on the right, it appears to cover a very eclectic range of subjects. I am confused by it; I'm not sure I understand why these articles have been chosen or arranged in this way. Any other thoughts on this? Jayjg (talk) 21:03, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
There probably needs to be a split somewhere between the subjects relating to internal criticism and those relating to the whole religion. A few of the people I wasn't familiar with (but found them in Category:Critics of Judaism, so please remove those that aren't considered notable scholarly critics of the religion. It's only created yesterday, so feel free to improve it where you can. Thanks, Icarus talk 12:34, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Why is Conservative Judaism listed? To include criticisms of Conservative Judaism? (but then why not criticisms of other movements within Judaism?) to imply that Conservative Judaism is a criticism of Judaism? I think this whole topic needs more thinking out.
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21:43, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Does this Yeshiva really exist?
It reputedly opened in 2009, but still has no courses or students. According to the sources, it offered some courses to the local Jewish community, but will not offer a program leading to a degree or to ordination until fall of 2012 (the third time they have announced postponement of their program).
Is this yeshiva accredited by anyone? Is the ordination that they propose to offer recognized by any existing Jewish denomination? Or is this all hype? Can anyone enlighten me? -- Ravpapa ( talk) 12:22, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
There are plenty more questions and blanks to fill in... Shabbat Shalom. IZAK ( talk) 09:47, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
the rosh yeshiva is affiliated with one of the toronto shuls that left USCJ after the gay ordinatin tshuva. It seems clear to me its oriented towards those Canadian Conservative congregatons who find USCJ and JTS to have moved too far "left" so its not surprising at all that they position themselves as "classic" Judaism, or that they use the term Yeshiva (which is used by the Conservative Yeshiva in Jerusalem, and Yeshivat Hadar in NYC) lots of people are reclaiming the terms Yeshiva and Rosh Yeshiva from the Orthodox. The Canadian shuls in question do not call themselves a "denomination" AFAIK, but I think there will be many Jewish institutions on both sides of the 49th parallel where mismachim from here would be welcome.
Ricardianman (
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21:54, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
How would one spell Moishe Tokar in Yiddish/Hebrew? I gather that משה is Moishe, but I'm not sure about Tokar. Kaldari ( talk) 01:11, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
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An A-class nomination for WikiProject Judaism! | |
Tay–Sachs disease has been nominated to be A-class. You may vote. ~~ Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 01:39, 24 January 2012 (UTC) |
Could there be a user to close it? It's time, the two reviewers reviewed it, no opposes. Over a week. ~~ Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 15:09, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I would like help improving
this article, if anyone can spare the time.
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For anyone who is interested.....I will be giving a talk on my recently-published book Jewry in Music: Entry to the Profession from the Enlightenment to Richard Wagner (Cambridge University Press) as part of the event series of the Institute of Jewish Studies, at the Gustave Tuck Lecture Theatre, University College London, at 18.45 on 22nd February. Reception from 18.15. Entry free, voluntary donation if you like to the IJS. Contact me if you want further details - David Conway aka-- Smerus ( talk) 15:23, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Judaism will have interest in putting on events related to women's roles in Judaism. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch ( talk) 19:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm extremely wary of noting this here, given that I understand the feelings against the kind of English used in the JE, EJ etc. And I don't want personal attacks as a min again. But all the same someone might want to take a view at the recent page moves inserting "HaKohen" into various bio stubs drawn from the Jewish Encyclopedia. If the project is happy with the "HaKohen"-izing of all these articles then fine, let them be without RM, and 100s more will be needed, but be aware that it will probably make these bios more difficult to find for English speaking general readers and lead to more mistakes and mislinks. Thanks for your time. With respect prefer not to enter into discussion. No more to say that will add anything. In ictu oculi ( talk) 03:57, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
It would be useful if somebody could help Marecheth Ho'eElohuth ( talk · contribs). I'm not sure English is his first language, and it is hard to understand why he is so keen to have this article ( Alexander Suslin) renamed from what he's written. Jheald ( talk) 12:00, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
For any interested editors: there's an RFC at Talk:List of Jewish Nobel laureates#RfC: Should the lede section include an explanation of the inclusion_criteria? regarding whether lists of Jews (or that specific list of Jews) need to explicitly define in their ledes who is a Jew for the purpose of that list. Jayjg (talk) 19:11, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Andy, you objected to my summary of the RFC stating (above) I said nothing whatever about 'defining who is a Jew' - I asked instead whether the lede should make clear what the criteria for inclusion are. To begin with, I actually said "explicitly define in their ledes who is a Jew for the purpose of that list" (bolding added for emphasis), which means something quite different. Moreover, what do you mean by "criteria for inclusion", if not defining who is a Jew for the purpose of that list? You had previously moved the article to the name List of Nobel laureates that Wikipedia has decided are 'Jewish', but won't say why. In that very discussion you stated in bold Define Jewish... - evidently our (non-existent) criteria for inclusion aren't obvious to everyone. It's quite obvious that by "criteria for inclusion" you are talking about who counts as a Jew for the purpose of that list, and who does not. To what else could "criteria for inclusion" refer? Who counts as a Nobel laureate for the purpose of that list? Jayjg (talk) 23:47, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
So the criteria for inclusion is "Nobel laureates described by reliable sources as being Jewish"? Can I take it you have no objection to me adding this to the lede then? Obviously it begs the question, but at least our readers will be aware that we aren't pulling the list out of thin air. And yes, "I'm not discussing those other lists" is an honest straightforward answer. It is demonstrably true. It is also fully in compliance with what we are supposed to be doing when discussing articles, as opposed to passing judgement on the intentions of contributors. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 00:46, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Andy, you wrote So the criteria for inclusion is "Nobel laureates described by reliable sources as being Jewish"? Can I take it you have no objection to me adding this to the lede then? Well, of course those are the criteria for inclusion, because they're the criteria for inclusion for all lists. Why on earth would they be anything else? This is Wikipedia, we add material that is supported by reliable sources! The real issue here is that nagging, still-unanswered question: to repeat from my previous post: The question that I have repeatedly asked, and on which I have been met with only "obstruction", is why this list should have different requirements than hundreds of other similar lists, including Featured Lists. I also "deserve an honest, straightforward answer", and "I don't care about those other lists"/"I'm not discussing those other lists"/ WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is not "an honest, straightforward answer". Featured Lists don't fall into the OTHERCRAPEXISTS category. Andy, where is that "honest, straightforward answer"? Jayjg (talk) 15:43, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
I note that at Tribe of Ephraim an editor is changing links from meggido.us to Biblelanding.com, evidently the new domain. Is that a site we should be using? It's got a Q&A section also. Dougweller ( talk) 13:28, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm not going to be online much to discuss this in the next few days, but it's something I've been meaning to bring up for a while. Almost all of the articles on each of the weekly Torah portions has a massive amount of pictures. In many places text is sandwiched between facing images, something that is explicitly prohibited by the MoS. So we all really need to take a look at the articles and decide what should stay and what is surplus to requirements. We have interwiki links and image galleries for a reason, so let's discount the use of those, but the number of images in the main articles is just ridiculous. Evanh2008, Super Genius Who am I? You can talk to me... 07:43, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
User:Honorsteem has decided to remove Lev Landau from any Jewish categories; he seems to be arguing that being born into a Jewish family isn't indication enough that an individual is Jewish. The List of Jewish Nobel laureates article lists four sources for Landau being Jewish, aside from the one listed in the Lev Landau article itself. Opinions on the matter would be welcome. Jayjg (talk) 20:35, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Back to the point, ignoring the Shengold Encyclopedia, we have 3 citations in the List of Jewish Nobel laureates, and another in the article itself indicating he was born into a Jewish family. Honorsteem apparently does not think that is sufficient for inclusion in the categories. Opinions on the matter would be welcome. Jayjg (talk) 21:42, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Category:Kohanim authors of Rabbinic literature seems to be very similar to (perhaps a recreation of) Category:Rabbinic Kohanim, which was deleted in April 2010. Would someone who is more knowledgeable about the subject than I am please evaluate whether the concerns raised in the April 2010 discussion apply to the current category? Please note, also, that Category:Kohanim authors of Rabbinic literature was discussed in September 2010 and that discussion ended without consensus. Thank you, -- Black Falcon ( talk) 04:39, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Howdy, Over the past few days, User:-- -- -- has done a wonderful job of adding information to the article Yosef Yozel Horwitz about the Alter of Novardok. I tried to help out a bit and the challenge is that the only sources I'm finding seem to be individual recollections that are hard to qualify as WP:RS. does anyone here have a published (book or online) reliable source that can be used to improve this article? Joe407 ( talk) 04:57, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
An RfC has been created at Genesis creation narrative#RfC: Should the lede define the narrative as a "myth" in the academic sense"?. This is not an attempt to canvass, because people on both sides of the dispute are being notified. - Lisa ( talk - contribs) 16:12, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
I have been editing various pages throughout Wikipedia in order to standardize this. Halakhic seems to get twice as many results on a Google search than Halachic, and among the more scholarly Jewish publications, it seems to be spelled Halakhah, not necessarily Halacha. Also, certain websites spell it this way, including Kol Hamevaser, JTS, Jewish Virtual Library, and MyJewishLearning. I think that this is because the word ends in the Hebrew letter Hei. I'm not sure why the Hebrew letter has been neglected. Therefore, I believe that this is the best way to spell it. Anyway, all of these redirect back to Halakha anyway, so it doesn't really make such a big difference. Just what the main title is on the actual main page of the article. I would think that I can get more support for it here on the main Talk Page for WikiProject Judaism because people see this more often. Also, Aggada redirects to Aggadah for the same reason that I mentioned (the letter Hei). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.98.153.78 ( talk) 02:24, 28 February 2012 (UTC) Therefore, we should probably either change Aggadah to Aggada, or Halakha to Halakhah in order to make Wikipedia more consistent. 129.98.153.78 ( talk) 06:13, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello, I've opened a peer review for Elias Abraham Rosenberg (who was the first recorded Jew in Hawaii). I'd welcome a peer review from someone with experience in Judaism related topics. Thanks, Mark Arsten ( talk) 18:20, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
In ictu oculi ( talk) 11:33, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Please feel free to make any comments you might wish at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion#Activity regarding possible more closely coordinated activity between the various religion, philosophy, and mythology WikiProjects. John Carter ( talk) 21:28, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
As Pesach approaches it is propitious to focus on related themes and articles that need help. Please apply your skills to improving The Exodus article with solid editing and adding some truly authentic Jewish sources. I tried to start a few changes and have begun a discussion about what a pathetic patchwork of (mostly) hogwash this article presently is at Talk:The Exodus#What kind of "Exodus" is this?. Thanks in advance, IZAK ( talk) 11:25, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Participation would be welcome in Talk:Book_of_Habakkuk#BC/BCE. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 14:13, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
As of March 1, apparently he was: File:Palestinian infobox v2.jpg. Many sources (perhaps mistakenly) assert that he was a Jew who practiced Judaism. Those with informed opinions on the issue are welcome weigh in at Talk:Palestinian people#Jesus Christ in the info box list of Palestinians. Jayjg (talk) 20:45, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
I do not see any of a Judaic prescriptive on this page and it appears that it should have it but i am not of the faith nor do i know the history very well so i may be wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.168.142 ( talk) 05:09, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
I saw yesterday that Steven Rubenstein ( Slrubenstein ( talk · contribs)) passed away recently. תנצב״ה. JFW | T@lk 09:56, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Just created a new barnstar, primarily intended for Wikipedia:WikiProject Hebrew languages but which can be used for Hebrew and other Jewish and Israeli topics more generally. I am planning to do some more barnstars in the future, including religious, cultural and national barnstars.
— Tom Morris ( talk) 22:56, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
There is still much discussion about what the article about what The Exodus should be. If you are able, please see the discussions at Talk:The Exodus#Historicity issues and Talk:The Exodus#Article outline. There is an important need for editors knowledgeable about Judaism's and classical Torah views on this subject. Most of the discussions lack this and would benefit from serious Jewish knowledge and input in this regard. Thanks! IZAK ( talk) 21:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Passover is in danger of being omitted from Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/April 6 this year because of the {{ original research}} maintenance tag in the middle of the article. Thanks. — howcheng { chat} 04:23, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Given the closely linked subjects of the various religion, mythology, and philosophy groups, it seems to me that we might benefit from having some sort of regular topical discussion forum to discuss the relevant content. I have put together the beginnings of an outline for such discussion at
Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/2011 meeting, and would very much appreciate the input of any interested editors. I am thinking that it might run over two months, the first of which would be to bring forward and discuss the current state of the content, and the second for perhaps some more focused discussion on what, if any, specific efforts might be taken in the near future. Any and all input is more than welcome.
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I would very much like to see an article on the book How Jesus became Christian by Barrie A. Wilson. I bring it to the attention of this group in particular because the book seems to have won an award for Canadian Jewish literature, the author himself being a professor at York University in Toronto. I would be particularly interested in the material regarding the "Jesus Cover-Up Thesis" he is said to discuss in the volume, and to what degree it might refer to earlier, similar thinking. John Carter ( talk) 01:36, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Should the Franz Boas article be articulating that "…he did not identify himself as a Jew" based on this source? Also please see the discussion on the Franz Boaz talk page about this. Bus stop ( talk) 00:19, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Can someone please address the issue of sex with minor children as described in the Talmud? [11] I didn't see any reference in any of the existing articles. If this was already discussed somewhere, can you please provide a link. Thank you. USchick ( talk) 02:13, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
"Sex positive"? That Sh'ma article makes it clear that the Talmud is discussing "rape". What's positive about rape? The only positive there is that the rabbis of the Talmud creatively found a way to avoid making the victim's fate worse. -- Dweller ( talk) 15:16, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
It does not constitute original research, quite the contrary in fact. Any jewish scholar or any person with extensive knowledde of the Talmud can confirm this. I agree with USchick, this iformation should be included in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.39.119.128 ( talk) 14:43, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
There are discussion underway at the talk pages of Books of Chronicles, Books of Kings, and Books of Samuel as to whether or not to move those pages to article titles reflecting the singular nature of each of the works in the Masoretic text, rather than the current Septuagint-based titles. The input of any interested editor would be greatly appreciated. Evanh2008 ( talk) ( contribs) 05:17, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Should we on Wikipedia use "Rabbi" or"rabbi"? This question was raised on my talkpage after I changed all capital "R"'s to regular "r"'s in two related articles. There seems to be some contradiction between Wikipedia:Mos#Titles_of_people and WP:JOBTITLES, and some room for various interpretations of the latter. I will be happy to see the community opinion here. Debresser ( talk) 17:17, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
PiCo has made a lot of questionable edits to Isaiah 7:14, which includes deleting most of the material in the article. Given his tendency to edit-war, I can't fix the problems with it by myself, so can anyone here take a look at the edits and tell me what you think? Quarkgluonsoup ( talk) 14:31, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Should Jewism redirect to Judaism? Please feel free to weigh in here. Bus stop ( talk) 14:09, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
I created Daniel Kabiljo a couple of days ago, could I have some help on linking it into more generic articles - thanks. Gallery In ictu oculi ( talk) 12:20, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Your expertise would be helpful at Talk:Middle_Ages#Judaism_as_a_missionary_religion. Thanks, -- Dweller ( talk) 13:59, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
The Lindsay Jones Encyclopedia of Religion, and its earlier edition edited by Mircea Eliade, has been counted as the standard reference work in the field of religion. I have gotten together a list of the articles, all of them of some substantial length and most if not all with individual reference sections, at User:John Carter/Religion articles. I believe that the default idea of a "Top" priority article is an article that any encyclopedia should have. Considering this encyclopedia is allegedly the best in the religion field, I think it makes sense to include the articles they have as "Top" priority. Also, considering most if not all of those articles are directly relevant, in some way, to "religion" as a whole, I believe it would make sense to tag at least those articles with the "WikiProject Religion" banner as well, with top priority assessment. Would that be acceptable to the members of this project? John Carter ( talk) 15:40, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
From the main page's anniversary section I just browsed into Jewish revolt against Constantius Gallus and Jewish-Roman wars, and noticed the military infoboxes have an iconic symbol for the Roman forces but not the Jews. Since the latter article has a prominent image of Romans hauling off a menorah as a symbol of a victory, I was thinking perhaps it would be good to use that as the Jewish symbol? As I read in Hanukkah the holiday has regained nationalistic/military dimensions, and so it doesn't seem inappropriate to me - but I know next to nothing about Judaism. ;) Wnt ( talk) 17:56, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
I wonder whether members of this project could help me find an appropriate link for what would be considered the "classical" tradition or period of Judaism. In an article on the "classical tradition" as it's usually understood in the West, as the heritage of classical antiquity, my source makes it clear that this is only one so-called "classical" tradition; other world cultures with a classical tradition include India (for which I have Classical India), China ( Chinese classics, though perhaps there's a better link for that one), Classic Judaism, and Islam ( Islamic Golden Age). When I posted the article, Classic Judaism wasn't a redlink, but it's now been deleted. I was hoping there might be a section in another article that elucidated what's meant by "the classical tradition of Judaism." Cynwolfe ( talk) 18:57, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I would like to seek some advice from people interested in Judaism and Jewish people topics with regard to the article Azerbaijani Jews. We have a dispute on how to organize a section on Antisemitism, and what is appropriate for inclusion there, in line with the common practice in similar articles in Wikipedia. Any comments on talk of the article would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Grand master 19:38, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi, all:
I have been working on rewriting the article on Tefillat Geshem and Tefillat Tal. I'm not looking for an assessment yet–actually, I haven't published it yet–I'm just looking for some outside opinions about the organization and structure of the article. You can find it in my sandbox. Thanks. StevenJ81 ( talk) 21:57, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
There is now a proposed general Manual of Style for Religion and other articles relating to ethoses or belief systems at Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/Manual of style. Any input would be welcome. I personally believe at least one of the reasons why many articles in this field have been as contentious as they have been is because of lack of such guidelines, and would very much welcome any input from others to help come up with some generally acceptable solutions to some of these problems. John Carter ( talk) 22:09, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Category:Sephardi Jews topics, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- Black Falcon ( talk) 20:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
by the way: I just added images of a jewish graveyard (and related images) from Michelstadt, a town south of Frankfurt/Germany. Obviously this graveyard is the aim of some pilgrimage of orthodox (hasidic?) jews - even street signs give hints to the Baal Schem of Michelstadt, see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Seckel_L%C3%B6b_Wormser - the person was known as Seckel Löb Wormser in his German form, see http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seckel_L%C3%B6b_Wormser. Unfortunately I cannot read hebrew (and I just try to write English) - perhaps someone can add a description / translation of the hebrew plaques. Karl Erich Grözinger, a leading scholar of jewish studies in Germany, just wrote (in 2010) a book about Löb Wormser. Best wishes -- Plehn ( talk) 20:05, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Interested editors please join the discussion at Talk:Maimonides#Israel_Shahak_as_a_source. -- Steven J. Anderson ( talk) 08:44, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Although I am pretty sure this isn't going to be deleted, I do think that some sort of guidelines would be useful for our [Weekly Torah portion]] articles. Take a look at Bereishit (parsha) - not a pretty sight (literally). Too much is just a copy of the Torah (which is I believe what led to the AfD, some is original research (I've asked at WP:NORN about the key word counting, but can someone here explain why it's there anyway?), etc. We have the same problem with Suras and possibly similar articles. Dougweller ( talk) 10:22, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Please comment at Template_talk:Religion_topics#RfC_on_articles_to_be_included_in_this_template. Thank you. John Carter ( talk) 21:49, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
The Shlomo Aviner page has some issues, including what appear to be some violations of WP:BLP and WP:V. There also appears to be an edit war going on. Someone with more knowledge of the situation than me might want to get involved. -- Bachrach44 ( talk) 19:36, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
There is a request for comment regarding the scope of the article God at Talk:God#Scope of this article. Any and all input is welcome. John Carter ( talk) 15:33, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Chayei Sarah (parsha)#Discussion about sources for new discussions about the content and sources of the 54 weekly Torah portion articles. Please keep track of that discussion as it unfolds. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 07:08, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
I just pruned some entries from this list, but it really could do with some more eyes. I'm half tempted to AfD it because it's doing a very bad job at replicating the work of Cats. -- Dweller ( talk) 20:12, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
The section on the Gore Vidal article about his well known anti-Semitism has been deleted [17]. There is a discussion on the article's talk page that claims he was not anti-Semitic, just anti-Zionist, but the entire section was deleted, rather than just editing it to reflect that. What should be done with this section of the article? Restore it as it was, restore it with edits, or leave it deleted? -- PiMaster3 talk 14:54, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
There is a dispute right now on the exodus. One editor is trying to radically re-write it in accordance with a very liberal brand of protestant scholarship. Quarkgluonsoup ( talk) 06:26, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Please see the discussion at Talk:Abraham#So who wrote the Torah?. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 18:19, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
I created the three Soviet Union maps today and the other three before. I would like to know what everyone thinks of them. And for the record, I already put all of them in at least one article where they would belong. Thank you. Futurist110 ( talk) 03:40, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
I apologize if this edit is not in proper format, but I am not a computer wiz. That being said, I have tried very hard in the past year to put a lot of good work into the Wikipedia page for Gadol, and have done lots of good work in terms of adding dates, neglected figures, published material, location of activity, along with footnotes. But for whatever reason, Gedolim associated with the Mizrachi keep being removed. I thought putting up a list endorsed by Rabbi Fendel would end the vandalism, and it did for a period of time, but recently again, Rabbi Soloveitchik of YU (who WAS listed in Fendel's last work, after he accidentally omitted him in a previous work) was removed from the list! If anyone can get that page to stop being vandalized based on hashkafa, I would greatly appreciate it. I never removed anyone for Hashkafic reasons, I only added missing gedolim (from ALL streams. I don't play politics. Sfardish, Yekkesh, Hasidish, Modernish, Tzionish, Haredish, etc. In shamayim (or genhenem, where appropriate) Hashem won't ask what type of Kippa you wore. For example, I once added the missing Steipler Gaon from an earlier larger version of the list when I noticed he was missing, as I added teh Baba Sali, etc, etc.) Sinat Chinam is the cause of Galut, so please stop participating in hashkafic removals of certain names. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.102.168.8 ( talk) 00:30, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Please see the edits of Maryester ( talk · contribs) and tell me what you think of them. I reverted his edits to Isaac Luria today, and then later on History of the Jews in the United States as well. Was I right to do so? Debresser ( talk) 01:17, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
All of these discussions/arguments about editorial differences between religious-oriented and secular/academic-oriented editors (cf. weekly Torah portions, the Exodus, Abraham, etc.) bring the following question to my mind: At what point does "WP Judaism" per se have a right to step in and say, "Wait a minute: From the perspective of Judaism, such and such POV is required to remain intact and recognizable in these articles"?
Additionally, one point seems glaringly absent on the secular/academic side: while Jewish religious scholarship has some bright lines it does not cross, there is plenty of authentic scholarship within Judaism over the millenia. Why doesn't that count? And why can't WP Judaism speak up for that?
StevenJ81 ( talk) 13:58, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
There is a discussion on the Beitar Illit about the removal of part of a generic text which is sourced to general sources, not specific to Beitar Illit. Please weigh in. Debresser ( talk) 15:13, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Discussion on name of Genesis creation narrative article at Talk:Genesis creation narrative#Requested move. -- 203.171.196.112 ( talk) 06:58, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Shalom. I just created this page: L'Arche (magazine). Greatly appreciated if you could expand it. Thanks. Zigzig20s ( talk) 15:19, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
There's a discussion at Talk:caste about the view, first proposed by Lenin, but adopted by at least one contemporary sociologist that interwar Jews in Poland are well described as a caste. More knowledgeable editors should comment on that (and perhaps add balance from competing views if any). Tijfo098 ( talk) 16:04, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Is Christian observances of Jewish holidays#Feast of Trumpets really a Christian celebration of a Jewish holiday? Dougweller ( talk) 16:24, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
The issue is pretty much whether the primary of meaning of "Land of Israel" is geographic Israel/Palestine or the biblical scene of the phrase (or for that matter if there's a significant difference the biblical scene of the phrase, and geographic Israel/Palestine). Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk) 00:21, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
I've removed some OR added to this article recently, but could someone take a look at the changes made by a new editor [18] as I don't know enough to know if these are according to policy. Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 08:11, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I have been seeing a number of articles written in a manner that seems to be somewhat contentious in my view. Perhaps this project can assist me. I don't understand the use of the term "Jew" in the singular being referenced in articles. This seems to be a purposeful attempt at disrespect and an inappropriate use of what I see as, at the very least, a loaded phrase, and at most - an outright bigoted terminology. Please correct me if I am wrong but, isn't the proper term to describe this faith and the people of the religion - “Judaism,” “Jewish people,” or “Jews” rather than the single word “Jew”? My preliminary search for a quick answer came up with the following Google disclaimer that made me even more concerned: [19]. As I have been volunteering on the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard and a number of disputes have begun but then closed for various reasons I have decided that it is best to seek help from the projects! Please feel free to answer here or on my talkpage! (While I can't help but think already I know the answer...I feel this needs to be addressed in a more formal way)-- Amadscientist ( talk) 03:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Please help rephrase the first sentence of this article. Talk:613_commandments#Lead_sentence. Debresser ( talk) 09:52, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
I've put a note on Talk:Belshazzar's Feast (Rembrandt) that the last letter of the Hebrew is wrong (since it comes from the middle of the letter's crown (like a Zayin) rather than the right side as a Final Nun. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to put that in the article? Naraht ( talk) 16:30, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
What do Judaic editors make of the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kashmiri descent from lost tribes of Israel? Your expertise would be appreciated. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 11:50, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
This is probably more than a bit presumptuous on my part, but I have started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion#Goals for 2013? asking what if any sort of goals we might be able to reasonably set for the next year, in wikipedia and other WF sites as well. I figured the wikipedia probably gets more attention, which is why I started the discussion there. But I would be very interested in seeing any input regarding what the editors here think might be the areas here most in need or meriting additional attention. Maybe, and at this point it is just a maybe, maybe we might be able to get some input on such topics if we have some idea what it is we really need to work on. Anyway, I would welcome any input anyone here might have. John Carter ( talk) 20:05, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRIME suggest that the article on Abba Arika should really be at Rav.
The article currently at Rav is a bit of a mess, but could be either:
If people disagree with my interpretation of PRIME, then we still have COMMONNAME to deal with, which would necessitate moving Abba Arika to something disambiguated from Rav like Rav (Amora).
Any option taken would need appropriate hat notes.
I wondered what people here thought of the idea before I make any suggestions at the article talks. -- Dweller ( talk) 11:36, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
The title Abba Arika should in my opinion be changed to Rav which will make searching clearer and easier to understand by end users (∼∼∼∼) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BookaBazza ( talk • contribs) 10:58, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
This question on the Misc Ref Desk prompted me to create a new article on Marit ayin, as we didn't seem to have one. Contributions welcomed.
Incidentally, I had a quick look on Hebrew Wikipedia, awkward, as I can't type there, and couldn't find their article on it. If they have one, I'd appreciate it if someone added the interwiki link because for obvious reasons, the bots aren't always great at doing this for he:
Cheers -- Dweller ( talk) 13:53, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
We don't appear to have an article on this. Best I could find is the decidedly scrappy information at Rosh_Hashanah#Duration_and_timing. What's the best article title to use? -- Dweller ( talk) 13:45, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
I think it deserves its own article as it's such an important (and poorly understood) issue. A section in Jewish holiday would be good, too. -- Dweller ( talk) 10:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
I'm as close to certain as I can be that yom tov sheni is a gezera, but I can't see it listed at Takkanah. I can't think of another option other than either:
Help anyone? -- Dweller ( talk) 10:50, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Please participate in this discussion and share your opinion. Thanks. TheCuriousGnome ( talk) 05:39, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
I have noticed that for many countries there is an article "History of the Jews in..." but no "(nationality) Jews", which is a redirect to the first one (for example, Argentine Jews redirects to History of the Jews in Argentina, same goes for Brazil, Mexico, etc.). I understand that, ideally, there should be both, as in American Jews and History of the Jews in the United States. But when there is only 1 article, is it acceptable to have them under such structure, or should they be moved to "Argentine Jews", "Brazilian Jews", "Mexican Jews", etc? Cambalachero ( talk) 21:30, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
I added two sections: "
In the News" and "[[Portal:Judaism/Today in Jewish History/{{Jewish date|10|07}}
|Today in Jewish History]]". Both need a bit of work, so any help would be great.
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17:48, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
To all my friends at Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism: This month, I am celebrating my 10th anniversary as a Wikipedian: User:IZAK/awards#My ten years on Wikipedia. Sincerely, IZAK ( talk) 10:51, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
I submitted Portal:Judaism for a portal peer review. Take a look and contribute! ypnypn ( talk) 01:53, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Does Category:Jews need to be in all the categories added to it in this edit? Debresser ( talk) 22:54, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
I've never heard of the expression " mercy seat" in British English/British Jewish(!). Is there another commonly used translation of "Kapporeth"? My English/Hebrew chumash translates the term in Shmot 25:19 as "cover". It was just basically an ornate lid, wasn't it? It seems to be a Christian term and the whole article seems to be rather slanted toward a Christian view to my eyes. NB Kaporet redirects to Ark of the Covenant (not to Mercy seat) and Kapporet is a redlink currently. -- Dweller ( talk) 23:57, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi!
I've written a new article on R. Moses Isaac Tedeschi. Can some one review it please?
Thank you, Inkbug ( talk) 17:40, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
This new article may interest some followers of this wikiproject -- Stars of David: Prominent Jews Talk About Being Jewish.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 18:52, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
An ip made some fairly substantial edits without any sort of references. I don't know much about the subject matter, but it might be good to take a look at. NativeForeigner Talk 20:43, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello from
WP:BELG!
I am trying hard to improve the coverage of Belgium-related history articles and a search reveals that there is no article on
The Holocaust in Belgium, a significant gap in the coverage of Belgian history. Since the topic calls for a knowledge of the history of the Holocaust rather than the history of Belgium per se, I wondered whether anyone here would be interested in writing it. If so, I'd be very grateful! --
Brigade Piron (
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21:28, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Please review may article, Yaakov Tzvi Mecklenburg in general, and specifically as relates to User:MadmanBot's copyright concern. Thanks. Fintor ( talk) 08:31, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Extract from Lead: What is sometimes referred to as the Edict of Restoration (actually two edicts) described in the Bible as being made by Cyrus the Great left a lasting legacy on the Jewish religion where because of his policies in Babylonia, he is referred to by the people of the Jewish faith, as "the anointed of the Lord" or a "Messiah".[15][16] It strikes me that anyone unfamiliar with the Hebrew word "Messiah" as simply meaning "anointed" would be significantly misled by the tautology at the end of that extract into thinking that "people of the Jewish faith" regard Cyrus as a divine saviour-type figure. -- Dweller ( talk) 11:46, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Ran across [20] - does it matter? I'm never quite sure what to think when I see changes like this. Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 12:22, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
New article that could use attention - does it duplicate anything? Dougweller ( talk) 15:40, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
I would suggest that this group of editors take a look at this User's addition - almost ever edit is questionable. . Moxy ( talk) 18:55, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Land_of_Israel#Usage_by_Palestinians. Debresser ( talk) 11:55, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm hoping to develop a consensus as to how to name Talmudic tractates. It seems that for unambiguous names (such as Bava Kamma), the name alone is used. But when there can be confusion (such as Shabbat), sometimes it's Ta'anit (tractate), and other times it's Megillah (Talmud), or Orlah (Mishnayoth). There should be just one form for all the tractates - what should it be? -- YPN YPN ✡ 02:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
BTW, I just noticed that Bavli is an article about a neighborhood – what should one do about this? Inkbug ( talk) 06:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
I wanted to give a small, but public, kol akavod to a certain editor who has made important contributions to Jewish holidays and other articles in a serious and quiet way. This project benefits immensely from such editors. Debresser ( talk) 20:17, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
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Hello everybody, this is to inform you that a RFC on Meta concerning serious abuses, violations and defamations by some WP's French admins against French WP's contributors involved in editing articles about the Israeli-palestinian conflict facing continuous harassement including unfair treatment of Anti-Semitic issues and accused to be Zionist/Israeli propagandists. Thank you for your comments. Yoav, 81.218.206.83 ( talk) 10:29, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
I am a new editor, and I generally focus on articles pertaining to the Israel/Palestine conflict. One of my main goals is to ensure that the articles in question remain balanced and neutral, and to prevent extremely partisan viewpoints (eg. Zionism is colonialism, Israel is South Africa/Nazi Germany, Jews are Khazars, etc) from upsetting this balance. I have had a great deal of problems along the way. If any of you are mentors, I would appreciate your help. Thank you. Evildoer187 ( talk) 20:02, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Is Divine soul the article about yetzer tov, or is the concept of a not limited to kabbalah. If the concept is limited to kabbalah then yetzer tov should probably redirect there, but if it's a general Jewish concept then it should probably be a redlink. Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk) 02:14, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Notorious Moshe Friedman - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Friedman Sources I detailed made many changes and without valid sources or even accurate information they continue to perpetuate Holocaust denial. Please interested editors pls assist. I provided sources and very clearly detailed everything. They just continue changing sans facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tellyuer1 ( talk • contribs) 03:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
See this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jewish_diaspora
Evildoer187 ( talk) 13:35, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
FYI: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters#the God of Israel or the god of Israel In ictu oculi ( talk) 16:16, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Hello! Please tell me why jews (I'm Christian) will celebrate passover at 27th of March while first fullmoon after vernal equinox will occur at March 25th. Many thanks en advance
With regards and friendship Georges Theodosiou January 11, 2013 email: chretienorthodox@hotmail.fr
Is anyone here involved with the Simple English Wikipedia on a regular basis? I happened to wander there for some reason today. I replaced the Jewish and Israeli holidays template (which was an old version from here) with the most current version. I looked at the holiday articles there, and they're generally stubs. However:
Thanks. StevenJ81 ( talk) 17:56, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, I recently created an edit notice for a) the "home page" and b) the membership page of the project. I was wondering whether or not (and if so where) anyone else thought more editnotices are needed around the pages related to this WikiProject. Thanks, Magister Scienta talk 03:12, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
I think this very poor stub should probably be a redirect but I'm not sure where, any suggestions? Dougweller ( talk) 11:35, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
This article was deleted in April (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Classic Judaism) on the grounds that it was an essay, not an article. It has recently been recreated by user Rabroy. While I find the thing interesting and, perhaps, even important, I see nothing here that would change that essential determination. There is no indication that this is an analysis or philosophy that has gained any kind of notoriety; there are no declared adherents of classic Judaism, no self-proclaimed Classic Jewish congregations, no rabbinical school. Of the many rabbis identified in the text as adherents of the "classic Jewish" school, none of them, to my knowledge, ever used the term or identified themselves with this ideology.
At the time of the deletion discussion, in conversation on user Rabroy's talk page, I urged him to identify schools or congregations that espoused this ideology explicitly, or to bring critical books and journal articles discussing this philosophy by name. While he has added a great deal to the text as it was then, he has still done none of those things.
I don't want to be the bad guy here, but do others agree that Classic Judaism is still not worthy of an article? -- Ravpapa ( talk) 07:10, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Please see the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Classic Judaism (2nd nomination). Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 11:46, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
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A new template has been created today, Criticism of Judaism. As you can see on the right, it appears to cover a very eclectic range of subjects. I am confused by it; I'm not sure I understand why these articles have been chosen or arranged in this way. Any other thoughts on this? Jayjg (talk) 21:03, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
There probably needs to be a split somewhere between the subjects relating to internal criticism and those relating to the whole religion. A few of the people I wasn't familiar with (but found them in Category:Critics of Judaism, so please remove those that aren't considered notable scholarly critics of the religion. It's only created yesterday, so feel free to improve it where you can. Thanks, Icarus talk 12:34, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Why is Conservative Judaism listed? To include criticisms of Conservative Judaism? (but then why not criticisms of other movements within Judaism?) to imply that Conservative Judaism is a criticism of Judaism? I think this whole topic needs more thinking out.
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21:43, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Does this Yeshiva really exist?
It reputedly opened in 2009, but still has no courses or students. According to the sources, it offered some courses to the local Jewish community, but will not offer a program leading to a degree or to ordination until fall of 2012 (the third time they have announced postponement of their program).
Is this yeshiva accredited by anyone? Is the ordination that they propose to offer recognized by any existing Jewish denomination? Or is this all hype? Can anyone enlighten me? -- Ravpapa ( talk) 12:22, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
There are plenty more questions and blanks to fill in... Shabbat Shalom. IZAK ( talk) 09:47, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
the rosh yeshiva is affiliated with one of the toronto shuls that left USCJ after the gay ordinatin tshuva. It seems clear to me its oriented towards those Canadian Conservative congregatons who find USCJ and JTS to have moved too far "left" so its not surprising at all that they position themselves as "classic" Judaism, or that they use the term Yeshiva (which is used by the Conservative Yeshiva in Jerusalem, and Yeshivat Hadar in NYC) lots of people are reclaiming the terms Yeshiva and Rosh Yeshiva from the Orthodox. The Canadian shuls in question do not call themselves a "denomination" AFAIK, but I think there will be many Jewish institutions on both sides of the 49th parallel where mismachim from here would be welcome.
Ricardianman (
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21:54, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
How would one spell Moishe Tokar in Yiddish/Hebrew? I gather that משה is Moishe, but I'm not sure about Tokar. Kaldari ( talk) 01:11, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
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Could there be a user to close it? It's time, the two reviewers reviewed it, no opposes. Over a week. ~~ Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 15:09, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I would like help improving
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For anyone who is interested.....I will be giving a talk on my recently-published book Jewry in Music: Entry to the Profession from the Enlightenment to Richard Wagner (Cambridge University Press) as part of the event series of the Institute of Jewish Studies, at the Gustave Tuck Lecture Theatre, University College London, at 18.45 on 22nd February. Reception from 18.15. Entry free, voluntary donation if you like to the IJS. Contact me if you want further details - David Conway aka-- Smerus ( talk) 15:23, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Judaism will have interest in putting on events related to women's roles in Judaism. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch ( talk) 19:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm extremely wary of noting this here, given that I understand the feelings against the kind of English used in the JE, EJ etc. And I don't want personal attacks as a min again. But all the same someone might want to take a view at the recent page moves inserting "HaKohen" into various bio stubs drawn from the Jewish Encyclopedia. If the project is happy with the "HaKohen"-izing of all these articles then fine, let them be without RM, and 100s more will be needed, but be aware that it will probably make these bios more difficult to find for English speaking general readers and lead to more mistakes and mislinks. Thanks for your time. With respect prefer not to enter into discussion. No more to say that will add anything. In ictu oculi ( talk) 03:57, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
It would be useful if somebody could help Marecheth Ho'eElohuth ( talk · contribs). I'm not sure English is his first language, and it is hard to understand why he is so keen to have this article ( Alexander Suslin) renamed from what he's written. Jheald ( talk) 12:00, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
For any interested editors: there's an RFC at Talk:List of Jewish Nobel laureates#RfC: Should the lede section include an explanation of the inclusion_criteria? regarding whether lists of Jews (or that specific list of Jews) need to explicitly define in their ledes who is a Jew for the purpose of that list. Jayjg (talk) 19:11, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Andy, you objected to my summary of the RFC stating (above) I said nothing whatever about 'defining who is a Jew' - I asked instead whether the lede should make clear what the criteria for inclusion are. To begin with, I actually said "explicitly define in their ledes who is a Jew for the purpose of that list" (bolding added for emphasis), which means something quite different. Moreover, what do you mean by "criteria for inclusion", if not defining who is a Jew for the purpose of that list? You had previously moved the article to the name List of Nobel laureates that Wikipedia has decided are 'Jewish', but won't say why. In that very discussion you stated in bold Define Jewish... - evidently our (non-existent) criteria for inclusion aren't obvious to everyone. It's quite obvious that by "criteria for inclusion" you are talking about who counts as a Jew for the purpose of that list, and who does not. To what else could "criteria for inclusion" refer? Who counts as a Nobel laureate for the purpose of that list? Jayjg (talk) 23:47, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
So the criteria for inclusion is "Nobel laureates described by reliable sources as being Jewish"? Can I take it you have no objection to me adding this to the lede then? Obviously it begs the question, but at least our readers will be aware that we aren't pulling the list out of thin air. And yes, "I'm not discussing those other lists" is an honest straightforward answer. It is demonstrably true. It is also fully in compliance with what we are supposed to be doing when discussing articles, as opposed to passing judgement on the intentions of contributors. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 00:46, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Andy, you wrote So the criteria for inclusion is "Nobel laureates described by reliable sources as being Jewish"? Can I take it you have no objection to me adding this to the lede then? Well, of course those are the criteria for inclusion, because they're the criteria for inclusion for all lists. Why on earth would they be anything else? This is Wikipedia, we add material that is supported by reliable sources! The real issue here is that nagging, still-unanswered question: to repeat from my previous post: The question that I have repeatedly asked, and on which I have been met with only "obstruction", is why this list should have different requirements than hundreds of other similar lists, including Featured Lists. I also "deserve an honest, straightforward answer", and "I don't care about those other lists"/"I'm not discussing those other lists"/ WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is not "an honest, straightforward answer". Featured Lists don't fall into the OTHERCRAPEXISTS category. Andy, where is that "honest, straightforward answer"? Jayjg (talk) 15:43, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
I note that at Tribe of Ephraim an editor is changing links from meggido.us to Biblelanding.com, evidently the new domain. Is that a site we should be using? It's got a Q&A section also. Dougweller ( talk) 13:28, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm not going to be online much to discuss this in the next few days, but it's something I've been meaning to bring up for a while. Almost all of the articles on each of the weekly Torah portions has a massive amount of pictures. In many places text is sandwiched between facing images, something that is explicitly prohibited by the MoS. So we all really need to take a look at the articles and decide what should stay and what is surplus to requirements. We have interwiki links and image galleries for a reason, so let's discount the use of those, but the number of images in the main articles is just ridiculous. Evanh2008, Super Genius Who am I? You can talk to me... 07:43, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
User:Honorsteem has decided to remove Lev Landau from any Jewish categories; he seems to be arguing that being born into a Jewish family isn't indication enough that an individual is Jewish. The List of Jewish Nobel laureates article lists four sources for Landau being Jewish, aside from the one listed in the Lev Landau article itself. Opinions on the matter would be welcome. Jayjg (talk) 20:35, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Back to the point, ignoring the Shengold Encyclopedia, we have 3 citations in the List of Jewish Nobel laureates, and another in the article itself indicating he was born into a Jewish family. Honorsteem apparently does not think that is sufficient for inclusion in the categories. Opinions on the matter would be welcome. Jayjg (talk) 21:42, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Category:Kohanim authors of Rabbinic literature seems to be very similar to (perhaps a recreation of) Category:Rabbinic Kohanim, which was deleted in April 2010. Would someone who is more knowledgeable about the subject than I am please evaluate whether the concerns raised in the April 2010 discussion apply to the current category? Please note, also, that Category:Kohanim authors of Rabbinic literature was discussed in September 2010 and that discussion ended without consensus. Thank you, -- Black Falcon ( talk) 04:39, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Howdy, Over the past few days, User:-- -- -- has done a wonderful job of adding information to the article Yosef Yozel Horwitz about the Alter of Novardok. I tried to help out a bit and the challenge is that the only sources I'm finding seem to be individual recollections that are hard to qualify as WP:RS. does anyone here have a published (book or online) reliable source that can be used to improve this article? Joe407 ( talk) 04:57, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
An RfC has been created at Genesis creation narrative#RfC: Should the lede define the narrative as a "myth" in the academic sense"?. This is not an attempt to canvass, because people on both sides of the dispute are being notified. - Lisa ( talk - contribs) 16:12, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
I have been editing various pages throughout Wikipedia in order to standardize this. Halakhic seems to get twice as many results on a Google search than Halachic, and among the more scholarly Jewish publications, it seems to be spelled Halakhah, not necessarily Halacha. Also, certain websites spell it this way, including Kol Hamevaser, JTS, Jewish Virtual Library, and MyJewishLearning. I think that this is because the word ends in the Hebrew letter Hei. I'm not sure why the Hebrew letter has been neglected. Therefore, I believe that this is the best way to spell it. Anyway, all of these redirect back to Halakha anyway, so it doesn't really make such a big difference. Just what the main title is on the actual main page of the article. I would think that I can get more support for it here on the main Talk Page for WikiProject Judaism because people see this more often. Also, Aggada redirects to Aggadah for the same reason that I mentioned (the letter Hei). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.98.153.78 ( talk) 02:24, 28 February 2012 (UTC) Therefore, we should probably either change Aggadah to Aggada, or Halakha to Halakhah in order to make Wikipedia more consistent. 129.98.153.78 ( talk) 06:13, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello, I've opened a peer review for Elias Abraham Rosenberg (who was the first recorded Jew in Hawaii). I'd welcome a peer review from someone with experience in Judaism related topics. Thanks, Mark Arsten ( talk) 18:20, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
In ictu oculi ( talk) 11:33, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Please feel free to make any comments you might wish at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion#Activity regarding possible more closely coordinated activity between the various religion, philosophy, and mythology WikiProjects. John Carter ( talk) 21:28, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
As Pesach approaches it is propitious to focus on related themes and articles that need help. Please apply your skills to improving The Exodus article with solid editing and adding some truly authentic Jewish sources. I tried to start a few changes and have begun a discussion about what a pathetic patchwork of (mostly) hogwash this article presently is at Talk:The Exodus#What kind of "Exodus" is this?. Thanks in advance, IZAK ( talk) 11:25, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Participation would be welcome in Talk:Book_of_Habakkuk#BC/BCE. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 14:13, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
As of March 1, apparently he was: File:Palestinian infobox v2.jpg. Many sources (perhaps mistakenly) assert that he was a Jew who practiced Judaism. Those with informed opinions on the issue are welcome weigh in at Talk:Palestinian people#Jesus Christ in the info box list of Palestinians. Jayjg (talk) 20:45, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
I do not see any of a Judaic prescriptive on this page and it appears that it should have it but i am not of the faith nor do i know the history very well so i may be wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.168.142 ( talk) 05:09, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
I saw yesterday that Steven Rubenstein ( Slrubenstein ( talk · contribs)) passed away recently. תנצב״ה. JFW | T@lk 09:56, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Just created a new barnstar, primarily intended for Wikipedia:WikiProject Hebrew languages but which can be used for Hebrew and other Jewish and Israeli topics more generally. I am planning to do some more barnstars in the future, including religious, cultural and national barnstars.
— Tom Morris ( talk) 22:56, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
There is still much discussion about what the article about what The Exodus should be. If you are able, please see the discussions at Talk:The Exodus#Historicity issues and Talk:The Exodus#Article outline. There is an important need for editors knowledgeable about Judaism's and classical Torah views on this subject. Most of the discussions lack this and would benefit from serious Jewish knowledge and input in this regard. Thanks! IZAK ( talk) 21:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Passover is in danger of being omitted from Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/April 6 this year because of the {{ original research}} maintenance tag in the middle of the article. Thanks. — howcheng { chat} 04:23, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Given the closely linked subjects of the various religion, mythology, and philosophy groups, it seems to me that we might benefit from having some sort of regular topical discussion forum to discuss the relevant content. I have put together the beginnings of an outline for such discussion at
Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/2011 meeting, and would very much appreciate the input of any interested editors. I am thinking that it might run over two months, the first of which would be to bring forward and discuss the current state of the content, and the second for perhaps some more focused discussion on what, if any, specific efforts might be taken in the near future. Any and all input is more than welcome.
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I would very much like to see an article on the book How Jesus became Christian by Barrie A. Wilson. I bring it to the attention of this group in particular because the book seems to have won an award for Canadian Jewish literature, the author himself being a professor at York University in Toronto. I would be particularly interested in the material regarding the "Jesus Cover-Up Thesis" he is said to discuss in the volume, and to what degree it might refer to earlier, similar thinking. John Carter ( talk) 01:36, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Should the Franz Boas article be articulating that "…he did not identify himself as a Jew" based on this source? Also please see the discussion on the Franz Boaz talk page about this. Bus stop ( talk) 00:19, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Can someone please address the issue of sex with minor children as described in the Talmud? [11] I didn't see any reference in any of the existing articles. If this was already discussed somewhere, can you please provide a link. Thank you. USchick ( talk) 02:13, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
"Sex positive"? That Sh'ma article makes it clear that the Talmud is discussing "rape". What's positive about rape? The only positive there is that the rabbis of the Talmud creatively found a way to avoid making the victim's fate worse. -- Dweller ( talk) 15:16, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
It does not constitute original research, quite the contrary in fact. Any jewish scholar or any person with extensive knowledde of the Talmud can confirm this. I agree with USchick, this iformation should be included in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.39.119.128 ( talk) 14:43, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
There are discussion underway at the talk pages of Books of Chronicles, Books of Kings, and Books of Samuel as to whether or not to move those pages to article titles reflecting the singular nature of each of the works in the Masoretic text, rather than the current Septuagint-based titles. The input of any interested editor would be greatly appreciated. Evanh2008 ( talk) ( contribs) 05:17, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Should we on Wikipedia use "Rabbi" or"rabbi"? This question was raised on my talkpage after I changed all capital "R"'s to regular "r"'s in two related articles. There seems to be some contradiction between Wikipedia:Mos#Titles_of_people and WP:JOBTITLES, and some room for various interpretations of the latter. I will be happy to see the community opinion here. Debresser ( talk) 17:17, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
PiCo has made a lot of questionable edits to Isaiah 7:14, which includes deleting most of the material in the article. Given his tendency to edit-war, I can't fix the problems with it by myself, so can anyone here take a look at the edits and tell me what you think? Quarkgluonsoup ( talk) 14:31, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Should Jewism redirect to Judaism? Please feel free to weigh in here. Bus stop ( talk) 14:09, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
I created Daniel Kabiljo a couple of days ago, could I have some help on linking it into more generic articles - thanks. Gallery In ictu oculi ( talk) 12:20, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Your expertise would be helpful at Talk:Middle_Ages#Judaism_as_a_missionary_religion. Thanks, -- Dweller ( talk) 13:59, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
The Lindsay Jones Encyclopedia of Religion, and its earlier edition edited by Mircea Eliade, has been counted as the standard reference work in the field of religion. I have gotten together a list of the articles, all of them of some substantial length and most if not all with individual reference sections, at User:John Carter/Religion articles. I believe that the default idea of a "Top" priority article is an article that any encyclopedia should have. Considering this encyclopedia is allegedly the best in the religion field, I think it makes sense to include the articles they have as "Top" priority. Also, considering most if not all of those articles are directly relevant, in some way, to "religion" as a whole, I believe it would make sense to tag at least those articles with the "WikiProject Religion" banner as well, with top priority assessment. Would that be acceptable to the members of this project? John Carter ( talk) 15:40, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
From the main page's anniversary section I just browsed into Jewish revolt against Constantius Gallus and Jewish-Roman wars, and noticed the military infoboxes have an iconic symbol for the Roman forces but not the Jews. Since the latter article has a prominent image of Romans hauling off a menorah as a symbol of a victory, I was thinking perhaps it would be good to use that as the Jewish symbol? As I read in Hanukkah the holiday has regained nationalistic/military dimensions, and so it doesn't seem inappropriate to me - but I know next to nothing about Judaism. ;) Wnt ( talk) 17:56, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
I wonder whether members of this project could help me find an appropriate link for what would be considered the "classical" tradition or period of Judaism. In an article on the "classical tradition" as it's usually understood in the West, as the heritage of classical antiquity, my source makes it clear that this is only one so-called "classical" tradition; other world cultures with a classical tradition include India (for which I have Classical India), China ( Chinese classics, though perhaps there's a better link for that one), Classic Judaism, and Islam ( Islamic Golden Age). When I posted the article, Classic Judaism wasn't a redlink, but it's now been deleted. I was hoping there might be a section in another article that elucidated what's meant by "the classical tradition of Judaism." Cynwolfe ( talk) 18:57, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I would like to seek some advice from people interested in Judaism and Jewish people topics with regard to the article Azerbaijani Jews. We have a dispute on how to organize a section on Antisemitism, and what is appropriate for inclusion there, in line with the common practice in similar articles in Wikipedia. Any comments on talk of the article would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Grand master 19:38, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi, all:
I have been working on rewriting the article on Tefillat Geshem and Tefillat Tal. I'm not looking for an assessment yet–actually, I haven't published it yet–I'm just looking for some outside opinions about the organization and structure of the article. You can find it in my sandbox. Thanks. StevenJ81 ( talk) 21:57, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
There is now a proposed general Manual of Style for Religion and other articles relating to ethoses or belief systems at Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/Manual of style. Any input would be welcome. I personally believe at least one of the reasons why many articles in this field have been as contentious as they have been is because of lack of such guidelines, and would very much welcome any input from others to help come up with some generally acceptable solutions to some of these problems. John Carter ( talk) 22:09, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Category:Sephardi Jews topics, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- Black Falcon ( talk) 20:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
by the way: I just added images of a jewish graveyard (and related images) from Michelstadt, a town south of Frankfurt/Germany. Obviously this graveyard is the aim of some pilgrimage of orthodox (hasidic?) jews - even street signs give hints to the Baal Schem of Michelstadt, see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Seckel_L%C3%B6b_Wormser - the person was known as Seckel Löb Wormser in his German form, see http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seckel_L%C3%B6b_Wormser. Unfortunately I cannot read hebrew (and I just try to write English) - perhaps someone can add a description / translation of the hebrew plaques. Karl Erich Grözinger, a leading scholar of jewish studies in Germany, just wrote (in 2010) a book about Löb Wormser. Best wishes -- Plehn ( talk) 20:05, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Interested editors please join the discussion at Talk:Maimonides#Israel_Shahak_as_a_source. -- Steven J. Anderson ( talk) 08:44, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Although I am pretty sure this isn't going to be deleted, I do think that some sort of guidelines would be useful for our [Weekly Torah portion]] articles. Take a look at Bereishit (parsha) - not a pretty sight (literally). Too much is just a copy of the Torah (which is I believe what led to the AfD, some is original research (I've asked at WP:NORN about the key word counting, but can someone here explain why it's there anyway?), etc. We have the same problem with Suras and possibly similar articles. Dougweller ( talk) 10:22, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Please comment at Template_talk:Religion_topics#RfC_on_articles_to_be_included_in_this_template. Thank you. John Carter ( talk) 21:49, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
The Shlomo Aviner page has some issues, including what appear to be some violations of WP:BLP and WP:V. There also appears to be an edit war going on. Someone with more knowledge of the situation than me might want to get involved. -- Bachrach44 ( talk) 19:36, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
There is a request for comment regarding the scope of the article God at Talk:God#Scope of this article. Any and all input is welcome. John Carter ( talk) 15:33, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Chayei Sarah (parsha)#Discussion about sources for new discussions about the content and sources of the 54 weekly Torah portion articles. Please keep track of that discussion as it unfolds. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 07:08, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
I just pruned some entries from this list, but it really could do with some more eyes. I'm half tempted to AfD it because it's doing a very bad job at replicating the work of Cats. -- Dweller ( talk) 20:12, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
The section on the Gore Vidal article about his well known anti-Semitism has been deleted [17]. There is a discussion on the article's talk page that claims he was not anti-Semitic, just anti-Zionist, but the entire section was deleted, rather than just editing it to reflect that. What should be done with this section of the article? Restore it as it was, restore it with edits, or leave it deleted? -- PiMaster3 talk 14:54, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
There is a dispute right now on the exodus. One editor is trying to radically re-write it in accordance with a very liberal brand of protestant scholarship. Quarkgluonsoup ( talk) 06:26, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Please see the discussion at Talk:Abraham#So who wrote the Torah?. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 18:19, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
I created the three Soviet Union maps today and the other three before. I would like to know what everyone thinks of them. And for the record, I already put all of them in at least one article where they would belong. Thank you. Futurist110 ( talk) 03:40, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
I apologize if this edit is not in proper format, but I am not a computer wiz. That being said, I have tried very hard in the past year to put a lot of good work into the Wikipedia page for Gadol, and have done lots of good work in terms of adding dates, neglected figures, published material, location of activity, along with footnotes. But for whatever reason, Gedolim associated with the Mizrachi keep being removed. I thought putting up a list endorsed by Rabbi Fendel would end the vandalism, and it did for a period of time, but recently again, Rabbi Soloveitchik of YU (who WAS listed in Fendel's last work, after he accidentally omitted him in a previous work) was removed from the list! If anyone can get that page to stop being vandalized based on hashkafa, I would greatly appreciate it. I never removed anyone for Hashkafic reasons, I only added missing gedolim (from ALL streams. I don't play politics. Sfardish, Yekkesh, Hasidish, Modernish, Tzionish, Haredish, etc. In shamayim (or genhenem, where appropriate) Hashem won't ask what type of Kippa you wore. For example, I once added the missing Steipler Gaon from an earlier larger version of the list when I noticed he was missing, as I added teh Baba Sali, etc, etc.) Sinat Chinam is the cause of Galut, so please stop participating in hashkafic removals of certain names. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.102.168.8 ( talk) 00:30, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Please see the edits of Maryester ( talk · contribs) and tell me what you think of them. I reverted his edits to Isaac Luria today, and then later on History of the Jews in the United States as well. Was I right to do so? Debresser ( talk) 01:17, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
All of these discussions/arguments about editorial differences between religious-oriented and secular/academic-oriented editors (cf. weekly Torah portions, the Exodus, Abraham, etc.) bring the following question to my mind: At what point does "WP Judaism" per se have a right to step in and say, "Wait a minute: From the perspective of Judaism, such and such POV is required to remain intact and recognizable in these articles"?
Additionally, one point seems glaringly absent on the secular/academic side: while Jewish religious scholarship has some bright lines it does not cross, there is plenty of authentic scholarship within Judaism over the millenia. Why doesn't that count? And why can't WP Judaism speak up for that?
StevenJ81 ( talk) 13:58, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
There is a discussion on the Beitar Illit about the removal of part of a generic text which is sourced to general sources, not specific to Beitar Illit. Please weigh in. Debresser ( talk) 15:13, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Discussion on name of Genesis creation narrative article at Talk:Genesis creation narrative#Requested move. -- 203.171.196.112 ( talk) 06:58, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Shalom. I just created this page: L'Arche (magazine). Greatly appreciated if you could expand it. Thanks. Zigzig20s ( talk) 15:19, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
There's a discussion at Talk:caste about the view, first proposed by Lenin, but adopted by at least one contemporary sociologist that interwar Jews in Poland are well described as a caste. More knowledgeable editors should comment on that (and perhaps add balance from competing views if any). Tijfo098 ( talk) 16:04, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Is Christian observances of Jewish holidays#Feast of Trumpets really a Christian celebration of a Jewish holiday? Dougweller ( talk) 16:24, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
The issue is pretty much whether the primary of meaning of "Land of Israel" is geographic Israel/Palestine or the biblical scene of the phrase (or for that matter if there's a significant difference the biblical scene of the phrase, and geographic Israel/Palestine). Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk) 00:21, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
I've removed some OR added to this article recently, but could someone take a look at the changes made by a new editor [18] as I don't know enough to know if these are according to policy. Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 08:11, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I have been seeing a number of articles written in a manner that seems to be somewhat contentious in my view. Perhaps this project can assist me. I don't understand the use of the term "Jew" in the singular being referenced in articles. This seems to be a purposeful attempt at disrespect and an inappropriate use of what I see as, at the very least, a loaded phrase, and at most - an outright bigoted terminology. Please correct me if I am wrong but, isn't the proper term to describe this faith and the people of the religion - “Judaism,” “Jewish people,” or “Jews” rather than the single word “Jew”? My preliminary search for a quick answer came up with the following Google disclaimer that made me even more concerned: [19]. As I have been volunteering on the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard and a number of disputes have begun but then closed for various reasons I have decided that it is best to seek help from the projects! Please feel free to answer here or on my talkpage! (While I can't help but think already I know the answer...I feel this needs to be addressed in a more formal way)-- Amadscientist ( talk) 03:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Please help rephrase the first sentence of this article. Talk:613_commandments#Lead_sentence. Debresser ( talk) 09:52, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
I've put a note on Talk:Belshazzar's Feast (Rembrandt) that the last letter of the Hebrew is wrong (since it comes from the middle of the letter's crown (like a Zayin) rather than the right side as a Final Nun. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to put that in the article? Naraht ( talk) 16:30, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
What do Judaic editors make of the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kashmiri descent from lost tribes of Israel? Your expertise would be appreciated. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 11:50, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
This is probably more than a bit presumptuous on my part, but I have started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion#Goals for 2013? asking what if any sort of goals we might be able to reasonably set for the next year, in wikipedia and other WF sites as well. I figured the wikipedia probably gets more attention, which is why I started the discussion there. But I would be very interested in seeing any input regarding what the editors here think might be the areas here most in need or meriting additional attention. Maybe, and at this point it is just a maybe, maybe we might be able to get some input on such topics if we have some idea what it is we really need to work on. Anyway, I would welcome any input anyone here might have. John Carter ( talk) 20:05, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRIME suggest that the article on Abba Arika should really be at Rav.
The article currently at Rav is a bit of a mess, but could be either:
If people disagree with my interpretation of PRIME, then we still have COMMONNAME to deal with, which would necessitate moving Abba Arika to something disambiguated from Rav like Rav (Amora).
Any option taken would need appropriate hat notes.
I wondered what people here thought of the idea before I make any suggestions at the article talks. -- Dweller ( talk) 11:36, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
The title Abba Arika should in my opinion be changed to Rav which will make searching clearer and easier to understand by end users (∼∼∼∼) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BookaBazza ( talk • contribs) 10:58, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
This question on the Misc Ref Desk prompted me to create a new article on Marit ayin, as we didn't seem to have one. Contributions welcomed.
Incidentally, I had a quick look on Hebrew Wikipedia, awkward, as I can't type there, and couldn't find their article on it. If they have one, I'd appreciate it if someone added the interwiki link because for obvious reasons, the bots aren't always great at doing this for he:
Cheers -- Dweller ( talk) 13:53, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
We don't appear to have an article on this. Best I could find is the decidedly scrappy information at Rosh_Hashanah#Duration_and_timing. What's the best article title to use? -- Dweller ( talk) 13:45, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
I think it deserves its own article as it's such an important (and poorly understood) issue. A section in Jewish holiday would be good, too. -- Dweller ( talk) 10:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
I'm as close to certain as I can be that yom tov sheni is a gezera, but I can't see it listed at Takkanah. I can't think of another option other than either:
Help anyone? -- Dweller ( talk) 10:50, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Please participate in this discussion and share your opinion. Thanks. TheCuriousGnome ( talk) 05:39, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
I have noticed that for many countries there is an article "History of the Jews in..." but no "(nationality) Jews", which is a redirect to the first one (for example, Argentine Jews redirects to History of the Jews in Argentina, same goes for Brazil, Mexico, etc.). I understand that, ideally, there should be both, as in American Jews and History of the Jews in the United States. But when there is only 1 article, is it acceptable to have them under such structure, or should they be moved to "Argentine Jews", "Brazilian Jews", "Mexican Jews", etc? Cambalachero ( talk) 21:30, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
I added two sections: "
In the News" and "[[Portal:Judaism/Today in Jewish History/{{Jewish date|10|07}}
|Today in Jewish History]]". Both need a bit of work, so any help would be great.
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17:48, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
To all my friends at Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism: This month, I am celebrating my 10th anniversary as a Wikipedian: User:IZAK/awards#My ten years on Wikipedia. Sincerely, IZAK ( talk) 10:51, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
I submitted Portal:Judaism for a portal peer review. Take a look and contribute! ypnypn ( talk) 01:53, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Does Category:Jews need to be in all the categories added to it in this edit? Debresser ( talk) 22:54, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
I've never heard of the expression " mercy seat" in British English/British Jewish(!). Is there another commonly used translation of "Kapporeth"? My English/Hebrew chumash translates the term in Shmot 25:19 as "cover". It was just basically an ornate lid, wasn't it? It seems to be a Christian term and the whole article seems to be rather slanted toward a Christian view to my eyes. NB Kaporet redirects to Ark of the Covenant (not to Mercy seat) and Kapporet is a redlink currently. -- Dweller ( talk) 23:57, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi!
I've written a new article on R. Moses Isaac Tedeschi. Can some one review it please?
Thank you, Inkbug ( talk) 17:40, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
This new article may interest some followers of this wikiproject -- Stars of David: Prominent Jews Talk About Being Jewish.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 18:52, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
An ip made some fairly substantial edits without any sort of references. I don't know much about the subject matter, but it might be good to take a look at. NativeForeigner Talk 20:43, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello from
WP:BELG!
I am trying hard to improve the coverage of Belgium-related history articles and a search reveals that there is no article on
The Holocaust in Belgium, a significant gap in the coverage of Belgian history. Since the topic calls for a knowledge of the history of the Holocaust rather than the history of Belgium per se, I wondered whether anyone here would be interested in writing it. If so, I'd be very grateful! --
Brigade Piron (
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21:28, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Please review may article, Yaakov Tzvi Mecklenburg in general, and specifically as relates to User:MadmanBot's copyright concern. Thanks. Fintor ( talk) 08:31, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Extract from Lead: What is sometimes referred to as the Edict of Restoration (actually two edicts) described in the Bible as being made by Cyrus the Great left a lasting legacy on the Jewish religion where because of his policies in Babylonia, he is referred to by the people of the Jewish faith, as "the anointed of the Lord" or a "Messiah".[15][16] It strikes me that anyone unfamiliar with the Hebrew word "Messiah" as simply meaning "anointed" would be significantly misled by the tautology at the end of that extract into thinking that "people of the Jewish faith" regard Cyrus as a divine saviour-type figure. -- Dweller ( talk) 11:46, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Ran across [20] - does it matter? I'm never quite sure what to think when I see changes like this. Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 12:22, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
New article that could use attention - does it duplicate anything? Dougweller ( talk) 15:40, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
I would suggest that this group of editors take a look at this User's addition - almost ever edit is questionable. . Moxy ( talk) 18:55, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Land_of_Israel#Usage_by_Palestinians. Debresser ( talk) 11:55, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm hoping to develop a consensus as to how to name Talmudic tractates. It seems that for unambiguous names (such as Bava Kamma), the name alone is used. But when there can be confusion (such as Shabbat), sometimes it's Ta'anit (tractate), and other times it's Megillah (Talmud), or Orlah (Mishnayoth). There should be just one form for all the tractates - what should it be? -- YPN YPN ✡ 02:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
BTW, I just noticed that Bavli is an article about a neighborhood – what should one do about this? Inkbug ( talk) 06:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
I wanted to give a small, but public, kol akavod to a certain editor who has made important contributions to Jewish holidays and other articles in a serious and quiet way. This project benefits immensely from such editors. Debresser ( talk) 20:17, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
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Hello everybody, this is to inform you that a RFC on Meta concerning serious abuses, violations and defamations by some WP's French admins against French WP's contributors involved in editing articles about the Israeli-palestinian conflict facing continuous harassement including unfair treatment of Anti-Semitic issues and accused to be Zionist/Israeli propagandists. Thank you for your comments. Yoav, 81.218.206.83 ( talk) 10:29, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
I am a new editor, and I generally focus on articles pertaining to the Israel/Palestine conflict. One of my main goals is to ensure that the articles in question remain balanced and neutral, and to prevent extremely partisan viewpoints (eg. Zionism is colonialism, Israel is South Africa/Nazi Germany, Jews are Khazars, etc) from upsetting this balance. I have had a great deal of problems along the way. If any of you are mentors, I would appreciate your help. Thank you. Evildoer187 ( talk) 20:02, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Is Divine soul the article about yetzer tov, or is the concept of a not limited to kabbalah. If the concept is limited to kabbalah then yetzer tov should probably redirect there, but if it's a general Jewish concept then it should probably be a redlink. Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk) 02:14, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Notorious Moshe Friedman - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Friedman Sources I detailed made many changes and without valid sources or even accurate information they continue to perpetuate Holocaust denial. Please interested editors pls assist. I provided sources and very clearly detailed everything. They just continue changing sans facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tellyuer1 ( talk • contribs) 03:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
See this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jewish_diaspora
Evildoer187 ( talk) 13:35, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
FYI: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters#the God of Israel or the god of Israel In ictu oculi ( talk) 16:16, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Hello! Please tell me why jews (I'm Christian) will celebrate passover at 27th of March while first fullmoon after vernal equinox will occur at March 25th. Many thanks en advance
With regards and friendship Georges Theodosiou January 11, 2013 email: chretienorthodox@hotmail.fr
Is anyone here involved with the Simple English Wikipedia on a regular basis? I happened to wander there for some reason today. I replaced the Jewish and Israeli holidays template (which was an old version from here) with the most current version. I looked at the holiday articles there, and they're generally stubs. However:
Thanks. StevenJ81 ( talk) 17:56, 9 January 2013 (UTC)