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In the 'List of highest Grossing Indian Films', Baahubali: The beginning tops both Telugu and Tamil tables with a reported gross of ₹ 650 crores. But, isn't ₹ 650 crores the combined gross of both Telugu and Tamil versions? While I understand that the gross of dubbed versions shall normally be included in the gross (as it is dubbed from the same film), I feel it is wrong to include the gross of a separately filmed version in the gross figure of one language. Baahubali was filmed in Telugu and Tamil languages. Only the Hindi and Malayalam versions were dubbed.
For instance, in the highest grossing Tamil films table, the gross figure of Kabali is given as ₹ 350 crore. This figure is the total gross of the original Tamil version, along with the dubbed versions in Telugu and Hindi, which is okay, since the film was originally made in Tamil. But Baahubali: The beginning was originally filmed in 'two languages; Telugu and Tamil. So, when Baahubali: The beginning is placed in the top of the table with a gross figure of 650 crore, it is grossly unfair, since the figure includes the collections of the simultaneously shot Telugu version. The Telugu gross figure cannot be counted as a Tamil film's collection (since it is NOT dubbed) and hence should not be included. Similarly, the Tamil gross figure cannot be counted as a Telugu film's collection! The combined figure cannot come in both tables since the other films in the tables only include the gross figure of the language in which they are originally filmed (along with the versions dubbed from them if any). PlutoniumBackToTheFuture ( talk) 16:10, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
I've seen cast lists like this, where people include among the cast the names of people who perform item numbers. Does this make sense to anyone? It seems that the cast would intuitively refer to people who are participating in the story, not necessarily the dance routines. It seems a stretch to consider dancers "cast". I could absolutely see the utility of including noteworthy people in a section on music, though. On the other hand, perhaps I'm just applying my narrow western thinking to eastern subjects. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 19:26, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Your comments are requested at Talk:List of highest-grossing Telugu films#Share collections. The issue is whether the table for Distributor's Share is within the scope of an article on highest-grossing films. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 17:43, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
I'm writing an article on Mazhar Khan (actor) 1905–1950. However, Mazhar Khan (actor) (22 July 1955 – 16 September 1998) already exists, while Mazhar Khan is the disambiguation page. Both Khans were actor-producer-director. What would be the best naming convention in this case? Kaayay ( talk) 13:06, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
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So, please consider taking a look at and watchlisting this page:
You could be very helpful in evaluating potential candidates, and even finding out if you would be a suitable RfA candidate.
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Man, this is getting really bad. We lost admin Ricky81682 to sockpuppetry, we lost Nairspecht, and now we've lost Inside the Valley, Charles Turing, and Essex-1799 who were all confirmed to be sock accounts of one another. It's unclear if that means sockpuppetry or meatpuppetry. This is extraordinarily bad for a number of reasons, including that it creates a greater workload on all the people who work on Indian cinema articles. I hope that whomever is left will consider banding together a little more strongly here, participate in discussions, and if any of you are socking, STOP IT. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 20:18, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
{{ INRConvert}} is heavily used at List of highest-grossing Indian films, List of highest-grossing Tamil films, List of highest-grossing Telugu films and a number of similar list articles. Should the template be cut from these pages? The previous discussion on this seemed to dislike the template in general for needlessly converting to US dollars. To illustrate the problem, at List of highest-grossing Indian films in the Global Gross Figures table, note 3 Idiots, a 2009 film, is being converted to 2016 US dollars, because the template assumes that a current value is going in and produces a current value in its result.
In the second example with the inflation calculation, the resulting text is bulky for a table, and List of highest-grossing films, a similar article, doesn't attempt to adjust for inflation, so it's unclear why these similar articles would. Please indicate your !votes as either Keep or Cut. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 03:21, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi guys, please keep an eye out for the introduction of box office "verdicts" in articles. I found this guy who introduced a lot of these [1] [2] [3] [4] today. But I also feel like there's been an uptick in the introduction of this hyperbolic language. "Super hit", "blockbuster", "failure", etc. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 23:29, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Is there any reliable place top find the Filmfare Award wins and nominations for a given film? It is so frustrating that the Filmfare website does not archive these, at least that I can find. They only show the previous year. There was a website that had them up to 2005, but that is now permanently gone and no archives are available. The only thing I can find is http://www.awardsandshows.com/ but it's not clear if this is reliable. Please help. Bollyjeff | talk 03:06, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
I've come across User:Anwar Hossain jany which is a single-edit account which appears to be a biography of an actor born in East Bengal in 1931. It's a long way from my expertise, but I imagine that someone who won a Lifetime Achievement Award is probably notable - would someone care to look into it and see if the article is worth rescuing for mainspace? TIA Le Deluge ( talk) 16:07, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Of late, I've been coming across budget figures of Indian films quoted in 'million' rupees. As the unit 'million' is seldom used with the Indian currency rupee, quoting budgets only in million rupees can be confusing to the average Indian reader. I suggest that both units are retained, i.e, if the budget is rupees thirty crore, then the infobox (and paragraphs) shall have the figure quoted as ₹ 30 crore (300 million). Thus, the main Indian standard unit is retained to avoid any confusion for the average Indian reader, and the same figure is represented in the bracket in millions. PlutoniumBackToTheFuture ( talk) 15:55, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi, comments requested at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sunil Subramani, please. There are questions about notability. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 00:45, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi there, project members are strongly urged to discuss whether or not it makes sense to include films at List of most expensive Indian films if 1) the film hasn't begun production yet and 2) the film hasn't been completed. Seems like there's a real opportunity for Wikipedia to be used inappropriately as an extension of film companies' marketing schemes. Sources say Mohanlal's Randamoozham could cost upwards of 600 crore, so we just regurgitate that so that everybody starts looking forward to the spectacle? If the film hasn't finished production, do the figures have any meaning? If the film hasn't yet begun production, do the figures have any meaning? Please add your thoughts at Talk:List of most expensive Indian films#Budget for films that have not begun or completed production. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 22:33, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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That's where we need your help, because to be honest we know nothing about it and figured we might as well ask the experts.
How does it work: we unfortunately can not use categories (ideally category:Cinema of India) - so the next best thing is that we select articles based on the intersection of two Wiki Projects: {{ WikiProject India}} and {{ WikiProject Film}}. All articles that have been tagged by both projects will therefore be included. So we need to make sure that all articles you would like included are correctly tagged. For instance, talk:List of Assamese films of 2014 has been tagged by the Wikiproject Film but not by the WikiProject India (at the time of writing): if we want it included, we need to correct this (ditto for all similar pages; maybe a bot can help?). To be clear, we can also intersect other wikiprojects, just let us know.
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Any question -> let me know here, or here or here. Thanks, Stephane (Kiwix) ( talk) 08:56, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi, FYI I am uploading to Commons all Indian movies which are in the public domain in India. Please tell me if you have any special request or comment. Regards, Yann ( talk) 10:47, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
BLP and other content-related issues on R. Parthiepan have been cited by the subject itself in this video at 14:10 onwards. This is video is in Tamil language. It can be translated from the particular time-frame, wherein the interviewer wants to reaffirm or elaborate with R. Parthiepan about his early professional life that he came to know from Wikipedia, for which R. Parthiepan claims that whatever is said about him Wikipedia is entirely false like Date of birth, place of birth and early professional life and many more. He adds, he tried to correct certain which went in vain. He also advised the organisers of any institution where he would be a guest of honour that he don't want them to read Wikipedia to know about him for delivering an introduction on the dais. Any thoughts? -- βα£α( ᶀᶅᶖᵵᵶ) 01:10, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
List of highest-Domestic collection of Indian films is a relatively new article that the ICTF should be aware of. I don't quite understand why it's focusing on net when most financial articles focus on gross. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 03:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
Hey all, (all two of you...) I've moved the proposed ICTF FAQ into the hands of the ICTF. Instead of in my user space it can now be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force/ICTF FAQ or more simply, at WP:ICTFFAQ. It probably shouldn't be considered a live FAQ though, since many of the sources we haven't really discussed. Some are in the "not yet discussed" column that may in fact be poor references, so some effort will be needed to move accordingly. Indiaglitz could probably be moved to the "generally not considered reliable". Although I think we also need to discuss when some of these sources could be used. For instance, if we don't think Indiaglitz is trustworthy for financial figures, do we think they're trustworthy for non-controversial data like release dates? Interviews? Surely there is a way to still use some of the content these sites are generating. Maybe dealing in absolutes is not the best way to go here. Since financial data seems to be the biggest source of headaches, (thanks, corruption!) I think the community should be very selective about sources for that info. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 17:59, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi all, not surprisingly, there's yet another major discrepancy with the gross for a Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh film, Hind Ka Napak Ko Jawab: MSG Lion Heart 2. India TV News reports it as 100 crore in its first week. Box Office India sees things differently, reporting a 1 week gross of 4.28 crore. So I'm not sure how you guys want to deal with this. It could be presented as a range, or in some other way. Is India TV a reliable source? I couldn't find any info at BollywoodHungama, which causes me concern. I see several possibilities, including that India TV news is just regurgitating what the producers have claimed. I don't know off-hand, and I don't have much time lately to research this in depth. Any efforts to do so and to formulate a plan, would be appreciated. Note that there were huge discrepancies for the other films made by Singh--shitty reviews but astounding box office claims. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 14:46, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
Just came across the above awards page. It has a full Category:Global Indian Film Awards. Looks like they were distributed only in 2005 and 2007. I have merged 3 of the category pages to the main awards article. I don't think all the awards categories pages should have a standalone article? What do you all feel? Should we merge all of them? -- Skr15081997 ( talk) 08:40, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
For the promotion of their upcoming films, actors frequently appear on TV shows; comedy, reality and even guest roles in daily soaps. It is apparent that the performance is merely for promotion. Should such roles be included in filmography list. What about appearances in TV specials of award shows. The leading actors have made dozens of such appearances. What's the community's opinion on this issue? -- Skr15081997 ( talk) 03:09, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
The Hans India - Use or don't use as reference? About Us. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 11:14, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Anyone know anything about 123telugu.com? Reliable? Not? On their About page, they say they're reliable, so naturally I'm suspicious.
123telugu.com, a part of the prestigious Mallemaala Entertainments Group headed by noted Producer Sri Shyam Prasad Reddy, is a comprehensive and reliable resource for Telugu Movie News, Reviews, Photos and Political News.
I see a flimsy article on Shyam Prasad Reddy, so I'm not yet convinced of why he or his organisation should be considered an expert on Telugu film reviews, financial figures, etc. (Or Political news, for that matter...) Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 02:24, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
I have just removed some dollar conversions from articles in accordance with the consensus at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force/Archive_6#PROPOSAL:_The_INRConvert_template_should_be_cut_from_various_list_articles. However, unless you know of the discussion there is not much point having a consensus if it is not visible to editors; therefore I recommend adding the consensus to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force#Films an dthen it can be easily referred to by taskforce editors. Betty Logan ( talk) 22:18, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
Anyone know if Baahubali 2 is shot in both Telugu and Tamil? I'm seeing claims at Talk:Baahubali 2: The Conclusion and elsewhere (I think) that the sequel was dubbed into Tamil. I know that sources said the first film was simultaneously shot, I'm just curious if the sequel changed format as far as anyone knows. A timely reply would be appreciated. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 07:43, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
In Overseas Gross of Indian Films including Hindi,Telugu ,Tamil films the data is consistent, but only in case of domestic gross in India(due to entertainment tax and also due to producers' stating more collection at times), the gross collection vary 3-10 crores range. The sites which you mentioned, ibtimes and indianexpress are NOT trade websites, they quote data from trade websites, like Boxofficeindia.com like TimesofIndia do , as here
Worldwide Gross of PK from Two sources: 743 crore
first source:
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=2914
text here Bahubali 2 - The Conclusion has hit 1000 crore GROSS Worldwide box office in ten days. The film had gone past the Worldwide record of PK at 743 crore a few days back. Dangal was 718 crore Worldwide but now with its China run it can go over 900 crore but its not catching Bahubali - The Conclusion.
second source:
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=2904
text here Bahubali 2 - The Conclusion which has smashed all box office records has also taken the Worldwide crown in just six days. The film has gone past the Worldwide record of PK at 743 crore with business close to 800 crore. Dangal was 718 crore Worldwide. PK at 743 crore and Dangal at 702 crore.
PK was released in Hindi only
The worldwide gross should be changed from 792 to 743 crore.-- Rashkeqamar ( talk) 15:18, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
@ Kailash29792, IndianBio, Bollyjeff, DRAGON BOOSTER, Editor 2050, Vensatry, Krimuk2.0, Krish!, Numerounovedant, Skr15081997, Jaguar, and Yashthepunisher: The article is undergoing a FAR here. Please provide comments before it is closed. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 07:38, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
This website was co-founded by Chitra Subramaniam only a few years back (2014), but I wonder if it passes WP:RS. Cyphoidbomb, do you have contact with anyone who analyses sources and can determine their reliability? -- Kailash29792 (talk) 09:21, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
@ Kailash29792, IndianBio, Bollyjeff, DRAGON BOOSTER, Editor 2050, and Ssven2: Sorry for the ping, but response at this page tends to be a bit low. Comments kindly requested at Talk:Baahubali_2: The Conclusion#Production Budget of Film is misleading. The issue is how the budget of Baahubali 2 should be presented. One editor, BoxRox believes that a budget estimate of ₹250 crore total for parts 1 and 2 made by Rajamouli in 2015 should be used for determining the sequel's budget. Many recent sources (as detailed in the discussion) put the figure at 250 crore, which BoxRox feels is inaccurate. Comments on how to present the figures are appreciated. Thanks all. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 20:55, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
Should Golden Kela Awards, Ghanta Awards, Filmfail Awards and the likes be added to accolades lists? List of awards and nominations received by Sharon Stone and List of awards and nominations received by Bradley Cooper (both FLs) includes Golden Raspberry Awards. -- Skr15081997 ( talk) 13:54, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Dear Sir/Madam, 1. While I am editing an infobox in a biography, should I not cite any reference? 2. In the infobox, should I write like - |death_place = Mumbai, India or |death_place = [[Mumbai]], [[India]]? Thanking you, -- P.Shiladitya ( talk) 13:13, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
|release_date=
(in the film infobox) invite the addition of references. From
WP:LEADCITE: Any statements about living persons that are challenged or likely to be challenged must have an inline citation every time they are mentioned, including within the lead. Because the lead will usually repeat information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material.I don't see why it would be any different in the infobox. Regards, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 16:12, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanking again, -- P.Shiladitya ( talk) 05:40, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
Hey guys, has anyone ever heard of the "Films of India Online Awards"? Their web presence appears to be here, but the anonymous nature of it with so little detail seems really sketchy to me. I first encountered this entity here when someone added a wixsite.com address at Neerja. The anyone-can-set-up-a-Wix-website notion bothered me, so I looked elsewhere on the project for instances of this site being used, then looked deeper. If anyone has any info on whether or not it's an award that anyone cares about (call me skeptical, since it only appears to have existed for 2 years) then I'll probably remove the instances. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:50, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
There is an AfD that is relevant to your topic area at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aadhi Raat Ke Baad. Betty Logan ( talk) 14:32, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
The admins says that they need a reliable sources.The Source used for the malayalam movie Pulimurugan is catch news.How is it reliable.It is not like any news channels or indian express.How is it possible to use it.Please clarify for what reason it is used.Who is the editor in that.What is his qualfication. Muhammed.suhail ( talk) 18:00, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
admin please give reply against this problem as of my point of view in the section of highest grossing indian films the list and the editing is been done in fan base especially in the section of malayalam movie. A source is used there is catch news which is unknown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muhammed.suhail ( talk • contribs) 16:15, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello everyone, I would like to know if we can or can not accept assamtimes.org as a reliable source to support notability for films and actors? As per their Join us page anybody can join them and share write ups and ideas which they will endorse according to their editorial policy but I can't find what their policies are. I also posted this question at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Thank you – GSS ( talk| c| em) 05:42, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
In case anyone cares, 2.0 (film) was moved to 2.o (film). There is some justification at Talk:2.o (film), but I'm not certain it was a sound decision. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 21:47, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
I have started a discussion to split the article National Film Award – Special Jury Award / Special Mention (Feature Film). I hope ICTF members would spare some time to join the discussion. Regards.-- Let There Be Sunshine ( talk) 09:51, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi folks, Vijay (actor) is a bit of a mess, heavy with puffery and the usual unsubstantiated claims of critical/commercial success, etc. It's the sort of article that's going to need a lot of fine-tooth cleaning. Any chance some of the GA regulars could add it to their watchlists and/or their To Do lists? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 16:31, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
Regular editors keep an eye on Big B (film). Recently there was an incident of information loop. When a sequel of the film was announced, some reputed national news sites copied content regarding the original film's reception from its Wiki page. Unfortunately it was a damaged version with unsourced contents and fan puffery, originally added by two IPs - [5] and [6]. I have removed it and pointed out the incident in the talk page. It is possible in future that the editors could reinstate the content with those sources that circular reported it. Indeed, I already reverted one.-- Let There Be Sunshine ( talk) 11:26, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Hello people! If anyone has seen the film Zindagi (1940 film), they are welcome to add a plot section and a cast section. Thanks, King Prithviraj II ( talk) 19:29, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
Can someone knowledgable in movies take a look at Ittefaq (2017 film)#Plot and shorten it? Thanks. MT Train Discuss 12:58, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
I have been thinking about this since a very long time and time to finally act now. As we all know, there are 100s of frivolous and laughable award shows with laughable categories solely created to award stars who attend these shows. Even the so called "reputed" award ceremonies are known for similar things. But I think the unnotable awards should be completely removed from wikipedia. I am talking about the awards given by Indian magazines such as Vogue, GQ, Filmfare, Femina and Hello, all of which award style and glamour. We all know everyone who attends these ceremonies get one award or the other. Even the worst -dressed stars like Deepika Padukone win awards like "Stylish Diva of Year" and so on. I would like to invite Krimuk2.0, Ssven2, Numerounovedant, Pavanjandhyala, Kailash29792 and the other editors from India to present their view in the same. Krish | Talk 21:09, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
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I try to answer edit requests for protected page and almost without fail whenever I look at the relevant categories there are one or more edit requests by unregistered or unconfirmed editors asking for an update to box office figures for some movie. I am aware of the poor quality of most Indian cinema box-office numbers and I attempt to follow this task force's guidelines whenever possible to respond to these requests. That said, I am somewhat perplexed by not only the frequency but also the urgency of these requests. Some are quite vitriolic, accusing Wikipedia of racism over these edits. Granted, there is often hyperbole in edit requests but these are just disputable figures for how much money a movie supposedly made. Is it because of rivalry between different language communities within India or is there some other factor at work here? Thanks. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:36, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I have seen that most quality Indian cinema articles use million denomination over crore. While this is fine per
MOS:COMMONALITY, most visits to these pages are from Indians, and the million format can be quite difficult to comprehend for people who have lived their entire life using crore denominations. I am proposing that both millions and crore denominations be used in this format: ₹x crore (₹ x million). Perhaps a template can be created to ease the conversions. What do you think of this proposal? Please let me know the task force's opinion on this. Thanks,
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King Prithviraj II (
talk)
22:39, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
All, I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#Using multiple sources for film gross figures about using multiple sources to calculate film financials. I started it there to get more eyes and thoughts on this, but absolutely hope that editors here will participate and offer some perspective for folks (like me) who have a bare inkling at best on the nature of the Indian film industry. Appreciate any time and guidance given. Ravensfire ( talk) 02:33, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi. Given that many film articles are lacking posters, I wish to propose for a proper taskforce/noticeboard/group which can help in filling the infoboxes with proper film posters. The ones actively participating annually can be given barnstars or some other form of appreciation, which can boost their morale and help them participate with much interest. Inviting constructive comments. Regards, Pavanjandhyala 15:31, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello, a contested merger is taking place at Talk:Jab Tak Hai Jaan contesting the merger of its award list into the parent article. Thanks, King Prithviraj II ( talk) 06:17, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
These are my proposals:
Harsh Rathod 04:08, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
"the article should not be written using argot, slang, colloquialisms, doublespeak, legalese, or jargon that is unintelligible to an average reader"
.
Le Deluge (
talk)
10:39, 12 March 2018 (UTC)Editors can consider primary language used in production. Harsh Rathod 11:17, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Quick question as to community preference: at Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna the film poster presents Rani Mukerji's name with an H (Mukherji) rather than as Mukerji. What's the best way to deal with this? Do we use the credited name, or the name that Wikipedia seems to prefer? This sometimes comes up with Shahrukh Khan vs. Shah Rukh Khan and I'm sure others as well. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:57, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
These are my dilemmas:
@ Kailash29792: No, it is best suited here. Don't you have to say anything on it? Harsh Rathod 12:08, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
This is the best place to discuss it here. I get into edit wars now and then because of this. And has to explain this thing everytime in the edit summary. 😡 Harsh Rathod 08:15, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Rockstar (2011 film), an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AIRcorn (talk) 01:18, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
Just what the heck do we mean by the above category? Is it that this category contains (1) films whose background score is composed by ARTIST or (2) song(s) in the soundtrack album of that film is/are composed by ARTIST?
There are so many instances of wrong categorisations in this type of categories. Some people are mistaking it as (2) and some as (1).
Shouldn't there be a special page/essay on this matter? Harsh Rathod 07:44, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
The problem is mostly with Indian film articles. So, please summon them here. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 03:33, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
An article relevant to this project— List of accolades received by English Vinglish—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Mathglot ( talk) 19:11, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Satellite rights. Have we ever discussed this before? What is the point of including this information in articles? I see Santhosh 2018 adding this to dozens of articles [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] but it's unclear to me what the point of it is. When a western film is released, does anybody care whether it's going to later be released on Showtime or HBO? What academic question is being answered here? Are we just trying to promote the TV release of the film? Is Indian cinema an exception for detailing mundane business transfers like satellite rights? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
The latter of these films only has an IMDb link which redirects to the IMDb entry for the former of these films. Are both articles actually referring to the same film? mahir256 ( talk) 03:51, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
@ Kailash29792 and Ssven2: Hey guys, I'm looking at this RSN discussion from 2015. Do we all still agree that IndiaGlitz is a reliable source? As I was unaware of this RSN discussion, I've been pretty consistent about rejecting it for controversial content like financial details. Thoughts on this? And naturally anybody else is welcome to contribute. GSS raised this question on my talk page. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 18:45, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
"As the reviews are quoted in reliable sources including IBT, Mid Day and CNN-IBN it is unlikely they are paid because if they were then reliable sources would not use them."I don't think it's a huge problem to cite their reviews, but I would be cautious about assuming general reliability based on other Indian news outlets citing whichever site. I've seen a lot of Indian news outlets citing questionable sites like onlookersmedia.in, which suggests to me that these outlets are pressured to scrape up information from wherever they can get it, rather than by employing proper journalistic methods that require them to fact-check. Regards, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 00:55, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm seeing a big explosion of edits from an IPv6 editor 2405:205:6288:C37E:0:0:1ECD:A0A1 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) who keeps adding Rudranil Ghosh to various movie credits. At the rate he's going, it would appear Rudranil Ghosh is the most prolific actor in Indian films ever. Anybody ever heard of this guy? Am I overreacting? Thanks. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 04:38, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
|starring=
parameter who don't even appear to have named roles in the film, i.e. are cameos.
Cyphoidbomb (
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14:56, 24 May 2018 (UTC)2405:205:6194:A95A:0:0:2AF7:18AC ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) seems to be doing the same with Mithu Chakrabarty - no sources that I can see - Arjayay ( talk) 19:42, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
2405:205:6194:A95A:0:0:2AF7:18AC ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) is now promoting Bharat Kaul - Arjayay ( talk) 17:31, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
Rather than keep adding new names under the Rudranil Ghosh section above, I think we need a separate section, if not a rolling list:-
The Film India template, {{ Film India}} has been deleted, was deleted several years ago. I suggest that the "Film India template" section be removed from the task force page, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Indian cinema task force See ( Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 May 12#Template:Film India) Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 22:19, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pedavi Datani Matokatundhi (film) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pedavi Datani Matokatundhi (film) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 22:19, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Can someone help identify the Indian actors from the film trailer and add their names to the article Dying to Survive? Thanks in advance. Timmyshin ( talk) 13:41, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
I have been thinking about this since a very long time. I know there has been numerous articles about how Aamir, Salman and Shah Rukh Khan are individually considered "the biggest movie star". How is that even possible? One source claims Aamir is, another Salman and a different one Shah Rukh. But these sources forget that "the world" is NOT just South Asia and bunch of NRIs living in UK, USA and Australia. None of these Khans enjoy the Hollywood level stardom, which by the way is in itself questionable in today's times thanks to franchise films. Don't these Khans need huge following (with huge BO numbers) in UK, North America, Japan and Europe? If the public in these countries are not even aware about their existence to begin with, how the hell they individually became "the biggest movie star"? None of them enjoy the popularity (in the whole world) of the level of Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Robert Downey Jr. and Leonardo Dicaprio. Downey Jr. has like 5 all time highest grossing films and Dicaprio has the second highest grossing film, which also happens to be the most popular movie in the world. So how could these Khans be considered as "the biggest movie star(s)" over them? We need to look into these kinds of claims. What are your thoughts? Krish | Talk 16:30, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Hey guys, I think that the conversion of money expressed in INR to USD is unnecessary and problematic, especially for list articles. In list articles( like List of highest-grossing Indian films and List of highest-grossing films in India) the box office gross is mentioned in USD apart from being mentioned in INR. The problem arises when a film like Padmaavat(2018) which grossed more in India than Dhoom 3(2013) according to INR terms, ends up having a lower gross in USD terms, which looks weird. Apart from this, in general, the reader would not know if the converted figures(in USD) show how much the given amount of money was equivalent to at the time of release or at some other point of time in the future(say 2017/2018). So, I think it would be better to stop this conversion and rather provide the money which is crores in millions/billions if needed for viewers outside India. ~ Rajan51( talk) 12:33, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
"In country-specific articles, use the currency of the country. On first occurrence, consider including conversion to US dollars, euros, or pounds sterling, at a rate appropriate to the context. For example, Since 2001 the grant has been 10,000,000 Swedish kronor (€1.0M as of August 2009)."Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:36, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Talk:Neerali#Dispute_on_the_names_and_order_of_Starcast.
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Would someone from this WikiProject mid taking a look at Bharath BJ and assessing it? It's a newly created article which hasn't been assessed yet. The article might also need to be WP:MOVEd because some of the sources refer to the subject as "BJ Bharath". -- Marchjuly ( talk) 05:30, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Can we add New Indian Express as a reliable source? Hence it is bifurcated from The Indian Express which is considered as a reliable source. TheUnbeatable ( talk) 02:15, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
I Kindly request you to review Manusangada film page . It is in Review waiting state. /info/en/?search=Draft:Manusangada
Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajeevanand ( talk • contribs) 05:07, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Refer to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force/Archive 6#Rudranil Ghosh. They seem to have targeted Tota Roy Chowdhury as early as January 2018 so the article history now lists many of their IPs. Recently, Jimmy Sheirgill has been targeted. Some of the IPs are:
That amounts to a lot of contributions to revert... Although the Jimmy Sheirgill ones by 2405:205:6488:a713::2d2:30ad could be nuked I think. Thanks and regards, Biwom ( talk) 05:18, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Chethan Ramarao has acted in more than 350 films. A large number of films require a link to his article. I have done a few. Can anyone do it with help of bot or manually?- Nizil ( talk) 05:22, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Is spicyonion.com a reliable source for box office figures? Specifically, is [16] a reliable source for the box office gross of Badsha – The Don? (Or at least the Indian domestic gross?) There's no obvious editorial oversight or reputation for fact checking and accuracy, and reliable sources don't seem to cite it. I couldn't find any discussion of it here or at WP:RSN, but it's widely cited by Wikipedia, so some examination is overdue. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 07:42, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
All, Nagar.namit edit's are predominantely related to film dubs, in particular those by a specific company suggesting a COI (but that's a different discussion). Most of their edits are unsourced, so I've been removing them. There are behavior issues here that probably need to go to ANI, but there is a question I'd like to raise here. They are also sometimes adding the character names when different for a dub (see [17]) and sometimes adding the dub voice actor in the cast line (see [18]). Obviously, if it's unsourced, it's gone, but how to handle dubs in general? Is adding a comment to the lead (assuming sourced) the best approach or is that WP:UNDUE for the lead? Would a separate section be more appropriate towards the end of the article? Along with that, how to handle sourcing needs for voice actors? I feel they should be sourced, but realize it can be more difficult that the original film version. Finally, is this a better question for WP:FILM as a whole? It appears that dubs are more important to the Indian film industry than the US or other countries. Thoughts would be appreciated. Ravensfire ( talk) 19:18, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
There is a clear consensus that the Star Parivaar Awards should not be included in television articles and articles about the actors who appear in these shows.
This RfC is about the Star Parivaar Awards. Star is a television network in India. They regularly hold an award ceremony to praise television series that air on their network, and television actors who portray roles in these series.
Should the Star Parivaar Awards be included in television articles and articles about the actors who appear in these shows? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 14:45, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
I've noticed a recent campaign (maybe July to present) to label various people, typically cinematographers (for obvious reasons), with the label ISC, linked to
Indian Society of Cinematographers. The labels/links usually get added after the person's name in the infobox and lead, and sometimes the person erroneously uses the |title=
parameter of the infobox to indicate this. Here are some examples:
[19]
[20]
[21]
[22]
[23]
[24]
Anyway, it's not epidemic, but if you see these, please let me know. I'm not aware of any existing community preference to do this. This is something they do in movie credits, like indicating a casting agent as John Doe, C.S.A., but this societal affiliation is not a college degree or a royal honorific or title, so I can't imagine we'd ever include it in such a way as to make it look like it is one. Thanks,
Cyphoidbomb (
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15:19, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
In these edits [25] [26] at Vijay (actor) I've made a bold choice to exclude Rob Cain as a reliable source. Does anyone here want to discuss this? He appears to be a blogger or "contributor" whose platform is Forbes.com. It's unclear what makes him an expert in Indian film financials or where he gets his information, but I feel like he's somewhat central to a lot of financial inflation we've seen in some film articles. One big one that stands out to me is his take on the Kabali financials, where he put the worldwide gross in the 500 crore range despite IBT putting it in the 286 crore range. So if anybody has any opinions about Rob Cain, maybe it's wise to express them so we know what to do about him going forward. Regards, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 20:43, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
It's probable that some of his edits are wrong. Please verify. Xx236 ( talk) 13:16, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
Can anyone tell if this is the movie poster are for Don Seenu? The official website is dead, and there don't seem to be any working archives, while the IMDb page is showing something else. A Google Image search shows the full version of the file being used here, but that doesn't look like a movie poster. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 08:08, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
There is a requested move at Talk:List of Hindu mythological or devotional films that may need your opinion. Please come and help. Paine Ellsworth, ed. put'r there 01:14, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Which should be admitted in Indian Film articles?
Some of where used Cardinal number: Enthiran, PK (film)
Others used INS: 2.0 (film), Baahubali 2: The Conclusion
Which is acceptable for Indian Films? Siddiqsazzad001 <Talk/> 06:38, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
Hey, does anybody know anything about Hebbuli? The News Minute is saying that it crossed 100 crore, but I can't find any corroboration of figures that high in other references. Thoughts? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 18:47, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Bollywood Life is a reliable source per many views. It is owned by Essel Group & Zee Entertainment Enterprises. Also, it is a part of "India.com". Number of reliable sources are considered Bollywood Life as reliable source: Zee News ( [29]), Hindustan Times ( [30]), India TV ( [31]), Times Now ( [32]) and Zee Business ( [33]). If you rejected for its gossip side, let me tell you that many reliable sources have their own gossip side. Ex: [34] and [35]. If we cite Bollywood Life from its news side, then it should be acceptable/suitable for the Indian article. Thanks, Siddiqsazzad001 </ Talk> 05:26, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
It is currently at PR, I hope someone here notices it and posts comments. -- Kailash29792 (talk) 16:39, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
After a years-long absence (it had been deleted after an AfD), List of highest-grossing Malayalam films exists again. Wasn't there a community consensus to not have individual ethnic industry articles like this? List of highest-grossing Telugu films also exists. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:48, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
List of highest-grossing [Indian language] films
lists into a single page (
List of highest-grossing Indian films) is not very helpful either since it will just add to the clutter. --
Kailash29792
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16:05, 11 February 2019 (UTC)Category:Dubbed films, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion, along with its 48 subcategories. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 21:55, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Recently, there seems to be a increase in the direct citations of tweets from Taran Adarsh's Twitter account regarding box office, screen count, etcetera for Indian films. I believe that we should abstain from doing so, and only use his tweets when they are cited by reliable publications, ie. cite a secondary source quoting his words. Reason being he is someone who was accused of having a conflict of interest by Box Office India if this is to be believed, BOI expressed qualms. Note the timing of this tweet, and a subsequent article from BOI worded like a reply to it, which again suggests Adarsh is the supposed fraudster. One should be wary when citing potentially contested information. Also this. 2.51.191.30 ( talk) 13:25, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
I've begun copyediting Bollywood in response to a {{ copy edit}} tag. It's very long, and a good target for a split would be History of Indian cinema (currently a redirect to Cinema of India). Thoughts? All the best, Mini apolis 15:52, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
Hello. How does one reassess articles on Wikipedia after expanding them? I worked on this article and don't think it deserves the current stub classification. Help? Thanks, DeluxeVegan ( talk) 16:15, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Hello! I see a source being used in articles that is not on either the list of sources to use or avoid from our main page. Thoughts on this source? I'm not feeling strongly about it being reliable; see Wikipedia:Reliable_sources_checklist.
There is a discussion on the reliability of Osianama ( osianama.com) on the reliable sources noticeboard. If you're interested, please participate at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard § Kalpana Mohan Page. — Newslinger talk 08:53, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Can someone please improve this article and protect it from being deleted?-- Joseph 💬 18:15, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
It is unfortunate that this article is nominated for deletion. All sources listed are independent sources, except for a YouTube link for her song. She composed a film song at age 13 and is the youngest female music director in India and has composed or sang in multiple notable films. The article might need more fleshing out, but the subject is notable. 137.97.129.109 ( talk) 18:00, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
I have started peer review for India's first feature film Raja Harishchandra here. I am planning to take it to FAC in the near future. However, I dont have any previous experience with FACs so thought of putting PR first. I would appreciate if you can put your comments. Any constructive criticism is appreciated. - Vivvt ( Talk) 17:43, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi all, does anybody share my suspicion that Box Office India includes print and advertising costs in their budget figures? I feel like their budgets are often much higher than other estimates. For instance at Kesari (film), we have a range of 80 crore to 126 crore, the the lower figure coming from Business Today and the higher figure coming from BOI. 46 crore is a pretty significant gap, and I'm trying to figure out why. Anybody got any opinions? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 16:12, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Such templates shouldn't even exist, right? Yet there is Template:Manichitrathazhu character map (nominated for deletion), Template:Nuvvostanante Nenoddantana character map, Template:Kireedam character map, Template:Bodyguard character map and Template:Gunga Jumna character map. Wouldn't it be better if they simply served as navboxes mentioning only the films and their languages, not the characters? Cyphoidbomb and Krimuk2.0, please share your thoughts. -- Kailash29792 (talk) 04:44, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Filmcompanion.in - Is this a legit site whose opinion matters? I've seen it spring up here and there and I'm a little skeptical. See this for scope. Thoughts? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 03:19, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi all, an anonymous editor contacted me on my talk page about this, but many months back I was dealing with some IP vandalism at Joy Badlani, and a few other articles, where some pernicious editor was inflating various people's credits. Like here you can see that Badlani is alleged to have worked in Malayalam, Telugu, Kannada, Tamil and Bengali, which seems like it would be a big stretch for most Indian actors. The recent Anon believes that the vandalism has spread to IMDB. See Joy Badlani's page. Anyhow, I'm not finding a lot of trustworthy information about this guy, so I'm curious if any of you know whether he actually exists or not. I found this TOI source which has his name down as one of the main players, but I watched pre-release event on YouTube but didn't see the mustache man on stage. Here is listed as one of the "stars" of Sarkar, but I can't find any clips of him in that film. So, does he exist? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:04, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Is this move OK? I'm confused since "Hindi-films" seems like a better wording than "Bollywood".
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- Fylindfotberserk ( talk) 14:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Another "In house" awards like Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force/Archive_6#Request_for_Comment:_Star_Parivaar_Awards, Where a network give award to their own series and actors who portray roles in these series. So should these awards be included in TV series, actors and related articles. - Sid95Q ( talk) 07:30, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi,
I have come across an removing a source that I had inserted in Sura (film) with the comment: "Scoop times unreliable source removed". As a passing editor on the several Indian films, mainly to revert changes that run contrary to the sources quoted, I would like to know if Scoop Times is unreliable in general, or there are specific areas of Indian films that it can be quoted upon?
The same source is cited in a couple of other articles, one of which, Maanbumigu Maanavan, is PP-protected based on the edits/reverts made over the box office takings, as displayed in the source. The second article is Coimbatore Mappillai.
Also if scooptimes.com cannot be counted on for comments on box office showing, which other sites can I look at so that the necessary edits can be made? robertsky ( talk) 07:52, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Re-raising the
question on how to order languages in infobox, lead and other sections in case of multilingual films. Should it be based on industry primarily associated with the starring actors? or industry of production or there should be an alphabetical arrangement if more than one production houses? This is in reference to the ongoing language POV push in
Saaho. The instructions at
Template:Infobox film writes : Insert the language primarily used in the film
, but since the films was shot concurrently in multiple languages, wouldn't it be necessary to arrange them alphabetically? Secondly, the film
The Great Wall also arranges alphabetically. I was unable to find any guideline in
WP:ICTF. -
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AndhraBoxOffice.com is a trade website for box office collections and pre-release business figures of Telugu films. It is being quoted by film journalists at publications like The Hindu, Livemint, Times of India, Hindustan Times, Indian Express, IB Times etc. They have box office numbers for all major Telugu films of the past 10 years. Think it can be used as a source for Tollywood films. Please share your thoughts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kekamohan ( talk • contribs) 01:53, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
"it is more reliable for Telugu box office than IB Times which is known for inflated boxoffice figures". So go ahead, Kekamohan prove that it is more reliable. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 02:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
I just want to point out something. In few articles like List of accolades received by Padmaavat and Ram Kapoor#Awards where users added Dadasaheb Phalke International Film Festival Awards entries and references but wrongly linked Dadasaheb Phalke Award. So I request all the editors to rectify this mistake as this issue is on a lot of Film, Actors and accolades articles [38]. Sid95Q ( talk) 19:14, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
"The Dadasaheb Phalke Award is India's highest honour in the entertainment sector and is presented annually at the National Film Awards. Check out all the photos from the award ceremony below."The photos are just red-carpet snaps from the DP International Film Festival Awards. Horrendous. I agree that mentioning the confusion about copycat awards at the real award article might be worth considering. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 19:10, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
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Is http://cinetrak.in considered reliable source for box office figures, It is been used in some of List of Tamil films articles.-- Panda619 ( talk) 13:19, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Are actor salaries typically factored in budget? Turns out Indian film trades don't factor salaries in production budget (atleast, thats my assumption from Mission Mangal's budget (link is non-RS) reports), so wanted to know if this is the international norm or not. DeluxeVegan ( talk) 18:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
This Request for Comment about {{ Infobox film}} formatting might be of interest to this project: RfC: Is it relevant to list all composers for the film's music score and songs?. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:18, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
We have 100 Crore Club, 1000 Crore Club, recently 300 crore club popped up (not using the same naming convention). Do we need all of these? These seem like arbitrary landmarks, especially 300 crore. Thoughts? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 14:43, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
Sorry for the late notice - You are invited to participate at the Rfc Talk:2019 in film#Request for comment, which may be of interest to this taskforce. Thanks, DeluxeVegan ( talk) 21:06, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
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In the 'List of highest Grossing Indian Films', Baahubali: The beginning tops both Telugu and Tamil tables with a reported gross of ₹ 650 crores. But, isn't ₹ 650 crores the combined gross of both Telugu and Tamil versions? While I understand that the gross of dubbed versions shall normally be included in the gross (as it is dubbed from the same film), I feel it is wrong to include the gross of a separately filmed version in the gross figure of one language. Baahubali was filmed in Telugu and Tamil languages. Only the Hindi and Malayalam versions were dubbed.
For instance, in the highest grossing Tamil films table, the gross figure of Kabali is given as ₹ 350 crore. This figure is the total gross of the original Tamil version, along with the dubbed versions in Telugu and Hindi, which is okay, since the film was originally made in Tamil. But Baahubali: The beginning was originally filmed in 'two languages; Telugu and Tamil. So, when Baahubali: The beginning is placed in the top of the table with a gross figure of 650 crore, it is grossly unfair, since the figure includes the collections of the simultaneously shot Telugu version. The Telugu gross figure cannot be counted as a Tamil film's collection (since it is NOT dubbed) and hence should not be included. Similarly, the Tamil gross figure cannot be counted as a Telugu film's collection! The combined figure cannot come in both tables since the other films in the tables only include the gross figure of the language in which they are originally filmed (along with the versions dubbed from them if any). PlutoniumBackToTheFuture ( talk) 16:10, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
I've seen cast lists like this, where people include among the cast the names of people who perform item numbers. Does this make sense to anyone? It seems that the cast would intuitively refer to people who are participating in the story, not necessarily the dance routines. It seems a stretch to consider dancers "cast". I could absolutely see the utility of including noteworthy people in a section on music, though. On the other hand, perhaps I'm just applying my narrow western thinking to eastern subjects. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 19:26, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Your comments are requested at Talk:List of highest-grossing Telugu films#Share collections. The issue is whether the table for Distributor's Share is within the scope of an article on highest-grossing films. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 17:43, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
I'm writing an article on Mazhar Khan (actor) 1905–1950. However, Mazhar Khan (actor) (22 July 1955 – 16 September 1998) already exists, while Mazhar Khan is the disambiguation page. Both Khans were actor-producer-director. What would be the best naming convention in this case? Kaayay ( talk) 13:06, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Many participants here create a lot of content, have to evaluate whether or not a subject is notable, decide if content complies with BLP policy, and much more. Well, these are just some of the skills considered at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship.
So, please consider taking a look at and watchlisting this page:
You could be very helpful in evaluating potential candidates, and even finding out if you would be a suitable RfA candidate.
Many thanks and best wishes,
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Man, this is getting really bad. We lost admin Ricky81682 to sockpuppetry, we lost Nairspecht, and now we've lost Inside the Valley, Charles Turing, and Essex-1799 who were all confirmed to be sock accounts of one another. It's unclear if that means sockpuppetry or meatpuppetry. This is extraordinarily bad for a number of reasons, including that it creates a greater workload on all the people who work on Indian cinema articles. I hope that whomever is left will consider banding together a little more strongly here, participate in discussions, and if any of you are socking, STOP IT. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 20:18, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
{{ INRConvert}} is heavily used at List of highest-grossing Indian films, List of highest-grossing Tamil films, List of highest-grossing Telugu films and a number of similar list articles. Should the template be cut from these pages? The previous discussion on this seemed to dislike the template in general for needlessly converting to US dollars. To illustrate the problem, at List of highest-grossing Indian films in the Global Gross Figures table, note 3 Idiots, a 2009 film, is being converted to 2016 US dollars, because the template assumes that a current value is going in and produces a current value in its result.
In the second example with the inflation calculation, the resulting text is bulky for a table, and List of highest-grossing films, a similar article, doesn't attempt to adjust for inflation, so it's unclear why these similar articles would. Please indicate your !votes as either Keep or Cut. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 03:21, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi guys, please keep an eye out for the introduction of box office "verdicts" in articles. I found this guy who introduced a lot of these [1] [2] [3] [4] today. But I also feel like there's been an uptick in the introduction of this hyperbolic language. "Super hit", "blockbuster", "failure", etc. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 23:29, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Is there any reliable place top find the Filmfare Award wins and nominations for a given film? It is so frustrating that the Filmfare website does not archive these, at least that I can find. They only show the previous year. There was a website that had them up to 2005, but that is now permanently gone and no archives are available. The only thing I can find is http://www.awardsandshows.com/ but it's not clear if this is reliable. Please help. Bollyjeff | talk 03:06, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
I've come across User:Anwar Hossain jany which is a single-edit account which appears to be a biography of an actor born in East Bengal in 1931. It's a long way from my expertise, but I imagine that someone who won a Lifetime Achievement Award is probably notable - would someone care to look into it and see if the article is worth rescuing for mainspace? TIA Le Deluge ( talk) 16:07, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Of late, I've been coming across budget figures of Indian films quoted in 'million' rupees. As the unit 'million' is seldom used with the Indian currency rupee, quoting budgets only in million rupees can be confusing to the average Indian reader. I suggest that both units are retained, i.e, if the budget is rupees thirty crore, then the infobox (and paragraphs) shall have the figure quoted as ₹ 30 crore (300 million). Thus, the main Indian standard unit is retained to avoid any confusion for the average Indian reader, and the same figure is represented in the bracket in millions. PlutoniumBackToTheFuture ( talk) 15:55, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi, comments requested at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sunil Subramani, please. There are questions about notability. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 00:45, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi there, project members are strongly urged to discuss whether or not it makes sense to include films at List of most expensive Indian films if 1) the film hasn't begun production yet and 2) the film hasn't been completed. Seems like there's a real opportunity for Wikipedia to be used inappropriately as an extension of film companies' marketing schemes. Sources say Mohanlal's Randamoozham could cost upwards of 600 crore, so we just regurgitate that so that everybody starts looking forward to the spectacle? If the film hasn't finished production, do the figures have any meaning? If the film hasn't yet begun production, do the figures have any meaning? Please add your thoughts at Talk:List of most expensive Indian films#Budget for films that have not begun or completed production. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 22:33, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Hello all,
Quick presentation: I work with
Kiwix, the offline reader that offers Wikimedia content for people with limited connectivity.
Quick background: Kiwix runs on all platforms, but we launched last year
Wikimed with the help of
WikiProject Medicine. It basically is an Android app offering all of Wikipedia's medical content. Lo and behold, it is a huge success on the Indian subcontinent (about 40% of our downloads)! We figured it would be a good idea, therefore, to target our next app to the region's audience.
That's where we need your help, because to be honest we know nothing about it and figured we might as well ask the experts.
How does it work: we unfortunately can not use categories (ideally category:Cinema of India) - so the next best thing is that we select articles based on the intersection of two Wiki Projects: {{ WikiProject India}} and {{ WikiProject Film}}. All articles that have been tagged by both projects will therefore be included. So we need to make sure that all articles you would like included are correctly tagged. For instance, talk:List of Assamese films of 2014 has been tagged by the Wikiproject Film but not by the WikiProject India (at the time of writing): if we want it included, we need to correct this (ditto for all similar pages; maybe a bot can help?). To be clear, we can also intersect other wikiprojects, just let us know.
What do we need: other than correct tagging? basically just a landing page that would present the content. You can see a draft here.
How you can help: make this landing page yours: you can change pretty much everything that says XXX or YYY or "article" (the left column is ours, don't touch it). Even the name of the app: I put Bollywoodpedia because it sounded catchy and I know nothing else, but if you want to give it another name, go for it. Remember: we cannot use categories (or link to them), so every link you put in there must direct to an article. A good idea would be to list a blend of the most-read articles by genre.
Any question -> let me know here, or here or here. Thanks, Stephane (Kiwix) ( talk) 08:56, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi, FYI I am uploading to Commons all Indian movies which are in the public domain in India. Please tell me if you have any special request or comment. Regards, Yann ( talk) 10:47, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
BLP and other content-related issues on R. Parthiepan have been cited by the subject itself in this video at 14:10 onwards. This is video is in Tamil language. It can be translated from the particular time-frame, wherein the interviewer wants to reaffirm or elaborate with R. Parthiepan about his early professional life that he came to know from Wikipedia, for which R. Parthiepan claims that whatever is said about him Wikipedia is entirely false like Date of birth, place of birth and early professional life and many more. He adds, he tried to correct certain which went in vain. He also advised the organisers of any institution where he would be a guest of honour that he don't want them to read Wikipedia to know about him for delivering an introduction on the dais. Any thoughts? -- βα£α( ᶀᶅᶖᵵᵶ) 01:10, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
List of highest-Domestic collection of Indian films is a relatively new article that the ICTF should be aware of. I don't quite understand why it's focusing on net when most financial articles focus on gross. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 03:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
Hey all, (all two of you...) I've moved the proposed ICTF FAQ into the hands of the ICTF. Instead of in my user space it can now be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force/ICTF FAQ or more simply, at WP:ICTFFAQ. It probably shouldn't be considered a live FAQ though, since many of the sources we haven't really discussed. Some are in the "not yet discussed" column that may in fact be poor references, so some effort will be needed to move accordingly. Indiaglitz could probably be moved to the "generally not considered reliable". Although I think we also need to discuss when some of these sources could be used. For instance, if we don't think Indiaglitz is trustworthy for financial figures, do we think they're trustworthy for non-controversial data like release dates? Interviews? Surely there is a way to still use some of the content these sites are generating. Maybe dealing in absolutes is not the best way to go here. Since financial data seems to be the biggest source of headaches, (thanks, corruption!) I think the community should be very selective about sources for that info. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 17:59, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi all, not surprisingly, there's yet another major discrepancy with the gross for a Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh film, Hind Ka Napak Ko Jawab: MSG Lion Heart 2. India TV News reports it as 100 crore in its first week. Box Office India sees things differently, reporting a 1 week gross of 4.28 crore. So I'm not sure how you guys want to deal with this. It could be presented as a range, or in some other way. Is India TV a reliable source? I couldn't find any info at BollywoodHungama, which causes me concern. I see several possibilities, including that India TV news is just regurgitating what the producers have claimed. I don't know off-hand, and I don't have much time lately to research this in depth. Any efforts to do so and to formulate a plan, would be appreciated. Note that there were huge discrepancies for the other films made by Singh--shitty reviews but astounding box office claims. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 14:46, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
Just came across the above awards page. It has a full Category:Global Indian Film Awards. Looks like they were distributed only in 2005 and 2007. I have merged 3 of the category pages to the main awards article. I don't think all the awards categories pages should have a standalone article? What do you all feel? Should we merge all of them? -- Skr15081997 ( talk) 08:40, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
For the promotion of their upcoming films, actors frequently appear on TV shows; comedy, reality and even guest roles in daily soaps. It is apparent that the performance is merely for promotion. Should such roles be included in filmography list. What about appearances in TV specials of award shows. The leading actors have made dozens of such appearances. What's the community's opinion on this issue? -- Skr15081997 ( talk) 03:09, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
The Hans India - Use or don't use as reference? About Us. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 11:14, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Anyone know anything about 123telugu.com? Reliable? Not? On their About page, they say they're reliable, so naturally I'm suspicious.
123telugu.com, a part of the prestigious Mallemaala Entertainments Group headed by noted Producer Sri Shyam Prasad Reddy, is a comprehensive and reliable resource for Telugu Movie News, Reviews, Photos and Political News.
I see a flimsy article on Shyam Prasad Reddy, so I'm not yet convinced of why he or his organisation should be considered an expert on Telugu film reviews, financial figures, etc. (Or Political news, for that matter...) Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 02:24, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
I have just removed some dollar conversions from articles in accordance with the consensus at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force/Archive_6#PROPOSAL:_The_INRConvert_template_should_be_cut_from_various_list_articles. However, unless you know of the discussion there is not much point having a consensus if it is not visible to editors; therefore I recommend adding the consensus to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force#Films an dthen it can be easily referred to by taskforce editors. Betty Logan ( talk) 22:18, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
Anyone know if Baahubali 2 is shot in both Telugu and Tamil? I'm seeing claims at Talk:Baahubali 2: The Conclusion and elsewhere (I think) that the sequel was dubbed into Tamil. I know that sources said the first film was simultaneously shot, I'm just curious if the sequel changed format as far as anyone knows. A timely reply would be appreciated. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 07:43, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
In Overseas Gross of Indian Films including Hindi,Telugu ,Tamil films the data is consistent, but only in case of domestic gross in India(due to entertainment tax and also due to producers' stating more collection at times), the gross collection vary 3-10 crores range. The sites which you mentioned, ibtimes and indianexpress are NOT trade websites, they quote data from trade websites, like Boxofficeindia.com like TimesofIndia do , as here
Worldwide Gross of PK from Two sources: 743 crore
first source:
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=2914
text here Bahubali 2 - The Conclusion has hit 1000 crore GROSS Worldwide box office in ten days. The film had gone past the Worldwide record of PK at 743 crore a few days back. Dangal was 718 crore Worldwide but now with its China run it can go over 900 crore but its not catching Bahubali - The Conclusion.
second source:
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=2904
text here Bahubali 2 - The Conclusion which has smashed all box office records has also taken the Worldwide crown in just six days. The film has gone past the Worldwide record of PK at 743 crore with business close to 800 crore. Dangal was 718 crore Worldwide. PK at 743 crore and Dangal at 702 crore.
PK was released in Hindi only
The worldwide gross should be changed from 792 to 743 crore.-- Rashkeqamar ( talk) 15:18, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
@ Kailash29792, IndianBio, Bollyjeff, DRAGON BOOSTER, Editor 2050, Vensatry, Krimuk2.0, Krish!, Numerounovedant, Skr15081997, Jaguar, and Yashthepunisher: The article is undergoing a FAR here. Please provide comments before it is closed. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 07:38, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
This website was co-founded by Chitra Subramaniam only a few years back (2014), but I wonder if it passes WP:RS. Cyphoidbomb, do you have contact with anyone who analyses sources and can determine their reliability? -- Kailash29792 (talk) 09:21, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
@ Kailash29792, IndianBio, Bollyjeff, DRAGON BOOSTER, Editor 2050, and Ssven2: Sorry for the ping, but response at this page tends to be a bit low. Comments kindly requested at Talk:Baahubali_2: The Conclusion#Production Budget of Film is misleading. The issue is how the budget of Baahubali 2 should be presented. One editor, BoxRox believes that a budget estimate of ₹250 crore total for parts 1 and 2 made by Rajamouli in 2015 should be used for determining the sequel's budget. Many recent sources (as detailed in the discussion) put the figure at 250 crore, which BoxRox feels is inaccurate. Comments on how to present the figures are appreciated. Thanks all. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 20:55, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
Should Golden Kela Awards, Ghanta Awards, Filmfail Awards and the likes be added to accolades lists? List of awards and nominations received by Sharon Stone and List of awards and nominations received by Bradley Cooper (both FLs) includes Golden Raspberry Awards. -- Skr15081997 ( talk) 13:54, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Dear Sir/Madam, 1. While I am editing an infobox in a biography, should I not cite any reference? 2. In the infobox, should I write like - |death_place = Mumbai, India or |death_place = [[Mumbai]], [[India]]? Thanking you, -- P.Shiladitya ( talk) 13:13, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
|release_date=
(in the film infobox) invite the addition of references. From
WP:LEADCITE: Any statements about living persons that are challenged or likely to be challenged must have an inline citation every time they are mentioned, including within the lead. Because the lead will usually repeat information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material.I don't see why it would be any different in the infobox. Regards, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 16:12, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanking again, -- P.Shiladitya ( talk) 05:40, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
Hey guys, has anyone ever heard of the "Films of India Online Awards"? Their web presence appears to be here, but the anonymous nature of it with so little detail seems really sketchy to me. I first encountered this entity here when someone added a wixsite.com address at Neerja. The anyone-can-set-up-a-Wix-website notion bothered me, so I looked elsewhere on the project for instances of this site being used, then looked deeper. If anyone has any info on whether or not it's an award that anyone cares about (call me skeptical, since it only appears to have existed for 2 years) then I'll probably remove the instances. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:50, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
There is an AfD that is relevant to your topic area at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aadhi Raat Ke Baad. Betty Logan ( talk) 14:32, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
The admins says that they need a reliable sources.The Source used for the malayalam movie Pulimurugan is catch news.How is it reliable.It is not like any news channels or indian express.How is it possible to use it.Please clarify for what reason it is used.Who is the editor in that.What is his qualfication. Muhammed.suhail ( talk) 18:00, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
admin please give reply against this problem as of my point of view in the section of highest grossing indian films the list and the editing is been done in fan base especially in the section of malayalam movie. A source is used there is catch news which is unknown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muhammed.suhail ( talk • contribs) 16:15, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello everyone, I would like to know if we can or can not accept assamtimes.org as a reliable source to support notability for films and actors? As per their Join us page anybody can join them and share write ups and ideas which they will endorse according to their editorial policy but I can't find what their policies are. I also posted this question at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Thank you – GSS ( talk| c| em) 05:42, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
In case anyone cares, 2.0 (film) was moved to 2.o (film). There is some justification at Talk:2.o (film), but I'm not certain it was a sound decision. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 21:47, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
I have started a discussion to split the article National Film Award – Special Jury Award / Special Mention (Feature Film). I hope ICTF members would spare some time to join the discussion. Regards.-- Let There Be Sunshine ( talk) 09:51, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi folks, Vijay (actor) is a bit of a mess, heavy with puffery and the usual unsubstantiated claims of critical/commercial success, etc. It's the sort of article that's going to need a lot of fine-tooth cleaning. Any chance some of the GA regulars could add it to their watchlists and/or their To Do lists? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 16:31, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
Regular editors keep an eye on Big B (film). Recently there was an incident of information loop. When a sequel of the film was announced, some reputed national news sites copied content regarding the original film's reception from its Wiki page. Unfortunately it was a damaged version with unsourced contents and fan puffery, originally added by two IPs - [5] and [6]. I have removed it and pointed out the incident in the talk page. It is possible in future that the editors could reinstate the content with those sources that circular reported it. Indeed, I already reverted one.-- Let There Be Sunshine ( talk) 11:26, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Hello people! If anyone has seen the film Zindagi (1940 film), they are welcome to add a plot section and a cast section. Thanks, King Prithviraj II ( talk) 19:29, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
Can someone knowledgable in movies take a look at Ittefaq (2017 film)#Plot and shorten it? Thanks. MT Train Discuss 12:58, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
I have been thinking about this since a very long time and time to finally act now. As we all know, there are 100s of frivolous and laughable award shows with laughable categories solely created to award stars who attend these shows. Even the so called "reputed" award ceremonies are known for similar things. But I think the unnotable awards should be completely removed from wikipedia. I am talking about the awards given by Indian magazines such as Vogue, GQ, Filmfare, Femina and Hello, all of which award style and glamour. We all know everyone who attends these ceremonies get one award or the other. Even the worst -dressed stars like Deepika Padukone win awards like "Stylish Diva of Year" and so on. I would like to invite Krimuk2.0, Ssven2, Numerounovedant, Pavanjandhyala, Kailash29792 and the other editors from India to present their view in the same. Krish | Talk 21:09, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Hey Guyz, This is to inform you to join wikipedia discussion whatsapp group. To discuss any topic. Here is the link https://chat.whatsapp.com/0e4EnwRB3axGmcVpmlYouv. Regards Jack Shukla AKA TKSS & Paplesh. ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:21, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
I try to answer edit requests for protected page and almost without fail whenever I look at the relevant categories there are one or more edit requests by unregistered or unconfirmed editors asking for an update to box office figures for some movie. I am aware of the poor quality of most Indian cinema box-office numbers and I attempt to follow this task force's guidelines whenever possible to respond to these requests. That said, I am somewhat perplexed by not only the frequency but also the urgency of these requests. Some are quite vitriolic, accusing Wikipedia of racism over these edits. Granted, there is often hyperbole in edit requests but these are just disputable figures for how much money a movie supposedly made. Is it because of rivalry between different language communities within India or is there some other factor at work here? Thanks. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:36, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I have seen that most quality Indian cinema articles use million denomination over crore. While this is fine per
MOS:COMMONALITY, most visits to these pages are from Indians, and the million format can be quite difficult to comprehend for people who have lived their entire life using crore denominations. I am proposing that both millions and crore denominations be used in this format: ₹x crore (₹ x million). Perhaps a template can be created to ease the conversions. What do you think of this proposal? Please let me know the task force's opinion on this. Thanks,
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King Prithviraj II (
talk)
22:39, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
All, I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#Using multiple sources for film gross figures about using multiple sources to calculate film financials. I started it there to get more eyes and thoughts on this, but absolutely hope that editors here will participate and offer some perspective for folks (like me) who have a bare inkling at best on the nature of the Indian film industry. Appreciate any time and guidance given. Ravensfire ( talk) 02:33, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi. Given that many film articles are lacking posters, I wish to propose for a proper taskforce/noticeboard/group which can help in filling the infoboxes with proper film posters. The ones actively participating annually can be given barnstars or some other form of appreciation, which can boost their morale and help them participate with much interest. Inviting constructive comments. Regards, Pavanjandhyala 15:31, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello, a contested merger is taking place at Talk:Jab Tak Hai Jaan contesting the merger of its award list into the parent article. Thanks, King Prithviraj II ( talk) 06:17, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
These are my proposals:
Harsh Rathod 04:08, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
"the article should not be written using argot, slang, colloquialisms, doublespeak, legalese, or jargon that is unintelligible to an average reader"
.
Le Deluge (
talk)
10:39, 12 March 2018 (UTC)Editors can consider primary language used in production. Harsh Rathod 11:17, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Quick question as to community preference: at Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna the film poster presents Rani Mukerji's name with an H (Mukherji) rather than as Mukerji. What's the best way to deal with this? Do we use the credited name, or the name that Wikipedia seems to prefer? This sometimes comes up with Shahrukh Khan vs. Shah Rukh Khan and I'm sure others as well. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:57, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
These are my dilemmas:
@ Kailash29792: No, it is best suited here. Don't you have to say anything on it? Harsh Rathod 12:08, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
This is the best place to discuss it here. I get into edit wars now and then because of this. And has to explain this thing everytime in the edit summary. 😡 Harsh Rathod 08:15, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Rockstar (2011 film), an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AIRcorn (talk) 01:18, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
Just what the heck do we mean by the above category? Is it that this category contains (1) films whose background score is composed by ARTIST or (2) song(s) in the soundtrack album of that film is/are composed by ARTIST?
There are so many instances of wrong categorisations in this type of categories. Some people are mistaking it as (2) and some as (1).
Shouldn't there be a special page/essay on this matter? Harsh Rathod 07:44, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
The problem is mostly with Indian film articles. So, please summon them here. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 03:33, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
An article relevant to this project— List of accolades received by English Vinglish—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Mathglot ( talk) 19:11, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Satellite rights. Have we ever discussed this before? What is the point of including this information in articles? I see Santhosh 2018 adding this to dozens of articles [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] but it's unclear to me what the point of it is. When a western film is released, does anybody care whether it's going to later be released on Showtime or HBO? What academic question is being answered here? Are we just trying to promote the TV release of the film? Is Indian cinema an exception for detailing mundane business transfers like satellite rights? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
The latter of these films only has an IMDb link which redirects to the IMDb entry for the former of these films. Are both articles actually referring to the same film? mahir256 ( talk) 03:51, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
@ Kailash29792 and Ssven2: Hey guys, I'm looking at this RSN discussion from 2015. Do we all still agree that IndiaGlitz is a reliable source? As I was unaware of this RSN discussion, I've been pretty consistent about rejecting it for controversial content like financial details. Thoughts on this? And naturally anybody else is welcome to contribute. GSS raised this question on my talk page. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 18:45, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
"As the reviews are quoted in reliable sources including IBT, Mid Day and CNN-IBN it is unlikely they are paid because if they were then reliable sources would not use them."I don't think it's a huge problem to cite their reviews, but I would be cautious about assuming general reliability based on other Indian news outlets citing whichever site. I've seen a lot of Indian news outlets citing questionable sites like onlookersmedia.in, which suggests to me that these outlets are pressured to scrape up information from wherever they can get it, rather than by employing proper journalistic methods that require them to fact-check. Regards, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 00:55, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm seeing a big explosion of edits from an IPv6 editor 2405:205:6288:C37E:0:0:1ECD:A0A1 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) who keeps adding Rudranil Ghosh to various movie credits. At the rate he's going, it would appear Rudranil Ghosh is the most prolific actor in Indian films ever. Anybody ever heard of this guy? Am I overreacting? Thanks. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 04:38, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
|starring=
parameter who don't even appear to have named roles in the film, i.e. are cameos.
Cyphoidbomb (
talk)
14:56, 24 May 2018 (UTC)2405:205:6194:A95A:0:0:2AF7:18AC ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) seems to be doing the same with Mithu Chakrabarty - no sources that I can see - Arjayay ( talk) 19:42, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
2405:205:6194:A95A:0:0:2AF7:18AC ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) is now promoting Bharat Kaul - Arjayay ( talk) 17:31, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
Rather than keep adding new names under the Rudranil Ghosh section above, I think we need a separate section, if not a rolling list:-
The Film India template, {{ Film India}} has been deleted, was deleted several years ago. I suggest that the "Film India template" section be removed from the task force page, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Indian cinema task force See ( Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 May 12#Template:Film India) Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 22:19, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pedavi Datani Matokatundhi (film) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pedavi Datani Matokatundhi (film) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 22:19, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Can someone help identify the Indian actors from the film trailer and add their names to the article Dying to Survive? Thanks in advance. Timmyshin ( talk) 13:41, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
I have been thinking about this since a very long time. I know there has been numerous articles about how Aamir, Salman and Shah Rukh Khan are individually considered "the biggest movie star". How is that even possible? One source claims Aamir is, another Salman and a different one Shah Rukh. But these sources forget that "the world" is NOT just South Asia and bunch of NRIs living in UK, USA and Australia. None of these Khans enjoy the Hollywood level stardom, which by the way is in itself questionable in today's times thanks to franchise films. Don't these Khans need huge following (with huge BO numbers) in UK, North America, Japan and Europe? If the public in these countries are not even aware about their existence to begin with, how the hell they individually became "the biggest movie star"? None of them enjoy the popularity (in the whole world) of the level of Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Robert Downey Jr. and Leonardo Dicaprio. Downey Jr. has like 5 all time highest grossing films and Dicaprio has the second highest grossing film, which also happens to be the most popular movie in the world. So how could these Khans be considered as "the biggest movie star(s)" over them? We need to look into these kinds of claims. What are your thoughts? Krish | Talk 16:30, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Hey guys, I think that the conversion of money expressed in INR to USD is unnecessary and problematic, especially for list articles. In list articles( like List of highest-grossing Indian films and List of highest-grossing films in India) the box office gross is mentioned in USD apart from being mentioned in INR. The problem arises when a film like Padmaavat(2018) which grossed more in India than Dhoom 3(2013) according to INR terms, ends up having a lower gross in USD terms, which looks weird. Apart from this, in general, the reader would not know if the converted figures(in USD) show how much the given amount of money was equivalent to at the time of release or at some other point of time in the future(say 2017/2018). So, I think it would be better to stop this conversion and rather provide the money which is crores in millions/billions if needed for viewers outside India. ~ Rajan51( talk) 12:33, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
"In country-specific articles, use the currency of the country. On first occurrence, consider including conversion to US dollars, euros, or pounds sterling, at a rate appropriate to the context. For example, Since 2001 the grant has been 10,000,000 Swedish kronor (€1.0M as of August 2009)."Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:36, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Talk:Neerali#Dispute_on_the_names_and_order_of_Starcast.
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12:09, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Would someone from this WikiProject mid taking a look at Bharath BJ and assessing it? It's a newly created article which hasn't been assessed yet. The article might also need to be WP:MOVEd because some of the sources refer to the subject as "BJ Bharath". -- Marchjuly ( talk) 05:30, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Can we add New Indian Express as a reliable source? Hence it is bifurcated from The Indian Express which is considered as a reliable source. TheUnbeatable ( talk) 02:15, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
I Kindly request you to review Manusangada film page . It is in Review waiting state. /info/en/?search=Draft:Manusangada
Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajeevanand ( talk • contribs) 05:07, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Refer to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force/Archive 6#Rudranil Ghosh. They seem to have targeted Tota Roy Chowdhury as early as January 2018 so the article history now lists many of their IPs. Recently, Jimmy Sheirgill has been targeted. Some of the IPs are:
That amounts to a lot of contributions to revert... Although the Jimmy Sheirgill ones by 2405:205:6488:a713::2d2:30ad could be nuked I think. Thanks and regards, Biwom ( talk) 05:18, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Chethan Ramarao has acted in more than 350 films. A large number of films require a link to his article. I have done a few. Can anyone do it with help of bot or manually?- Nizil ( talk) 05:22, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Is spicyonion.com a reliable source for box office figures? Specifically, is [16] a reliable source for the box office gross of Badsha – The Don? (Or at least the Indian domestic gross?) There's no obvious editorial oversight or reputation for fact checking and accuracy, and reliable sources don't seem to cite it. I couldn't find any discussion of it here or at WP:RSN, but it's widely cited by Wikipedia, so some examination is overdue. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 07:42, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
All, Nagar.namit edit's are predominantely related to film dubs, in particular those by a specific company suggesting a COI (but that's a different discussion). Most of their edits are unsourced, so I've been removing them. There are behavior issues here that probably need to go to ANI, but there is a question I'd like to raise here. They are also sometimes adding the character names when different for a dub (see [17]) and sometimes adding the dub voice actor in the cast line (see [18]). Obviously, if it's unsourced, it's gone, but how to handle dubs in general? Is adding a comment to the lead (assuming sourced) the best approach or is that WP:UNDUE for the lead? Would a separate section be more appropriate towards the end of the article? Along with that, how to handle sourcing needs for voice actors? I feel they should be sourced, but realize it can be more difficult that the original film version. Finally, is this a better question for WP:FILM as a whole? It appears that dubs are more important to the Indian film industry than the US or other countries. Thoughts would be appreciated. Ravensfire ( talk) 19:18, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
There is a clear consensus that the Star Parivaar Awards should not be included in television articles and articles about the actors who appear in these shows.
This RfC is about the Star Parivaar Awards. Star is a television network in India. They regularly hold an award ceremony to praise television series that air on their network, and television actors who portray roles in these series.
Should the Star Parivaar Awards be included in television articles and articles about the actors who appear in these shows? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 14:45, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
I've noticed a recent campaign (maybe July to present) to label various people, typically cinematographers (for obvious reasons), with the label ISC, linked to
Indian Society of Cinematographers. The labels/links usually get added after the person's name in the infobox and lead, and sometimes the person erroneously uses the |title=
parameter of the infobox to indicate this. Here are some examples:
[19]
[20]
[21]
[22]
[23]
[24]
Anyway, it's not epidemic, but if you see these, please let me know. I'm not aware of any existing community preference to do this. This is something they do in movie credits, like indicating a casting agent as John Doe, C.S.A., but this societal affiliation is not a college degree or a royal honorific or title, so I can't imagine we'd ever include it in such a way as to make it look like it is one. Thanks,
Cyphoidbomb (
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15:19, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
In these edits [25] [26] at Vijay (actor) I've made a bold choice to exclude Rob Cain as a reliable source. Does anyone here want to discuss this? He appears to be a blogger or "contributor" whose platform is Forbes.com. It's unclear what makes him an expert in Indian film financials or where he gets his information, but I feel like he's somewhat central to a lot of financial inflation we've seen in some film articles. One big one that stands out to me is his take on the Kabali financials, where he put the worldwide gross in the 500 crore range despite IBT putting it in the 286 crore range. So if anybody has any opinions about Rob Cain, maybe it's wise to express them so we know what to do about him going forward. Regards, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 20:43, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
It's probable that some of his edits are wrong. Please verify. Xx236 ( talk) 13:16, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
Can anyone tell if this is the movie poster are for Don Seenu? The official website is dead, and there don't seem to be any working archives, while the IMDb page is showing something else. A Google Image search shows the full version of the file being used here, but that doesn't look like a movie poster. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 08:08, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
There is a requested move at Talk:List of Hindu mythological or devotional films that may need your opinion. Please come and help. Paine Ellsworth, ed. put'r there 01:14, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Which should be admitted in Indian Film articles?
Some of where used Cardinal number: Enthiran, PK (film)
Others used INS: 2.0 (film), Baahubali 2: The Conclusion
Which is acceptable for Indian Films? Siddiqsazzad001 <Talk/> 06:38, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
Hey, does anybody know anything about Hebbuli? The News Minute is saying that it crossed 100 crore, but I can't find any corroboration of figures that high in other references. Thoughts? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 18:47, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Bollywood Life is a reliable source per many views. It is owned by Essel Group & Zee Entertainment Enterprises. Also, it is a part of "India.com". Number of reliable sources are considered Bollywood Life as reliable source: Zee News ( [29]), Hindustan Times ( [30]), India TV ( [31]), Times Now ( [32]) and Zee Business ( [33]). If you rejected for its gossip side, let me tell you that many reliable sources have their own gossip side. Ex: [34] and [35]. If we cite Bollywood Life from its news side, then it should be acceptable/suitable for the Indian article. Thanks, Siddiqsazzad001 </ Talk> 05:26, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
It is currently at PR, I hope someone here notices it and posts comments. -- Kailash29792 (talk) 16:39, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
After a years-long absence (it had been deleted after an AfD), List of highest-grossing Malayalam films exists again. Wasn't there a community consensus to not have individual ethnic industry articles like this? List of highest-grossing Telugu films also exists. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:48, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
List of highest-grossing [Indian language] films
lists into a single page (
List of highest-grossing Indian films) is not very helpful either since it will just add to the clutter. --
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16:05, 11 February 2019 (UTC)Category:Dubbed films, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion, along with its 48 subcategories. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 21:55, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Recently, there seems to be a increase in the direct citations of tweets from Taran Adarsh's Twitter account regarding box office, screen count, etcetera for Indian films. I believe that we should abstain from doing so, and only use his tweets when they are cited by reliable publications, ie. cite a secondary source quoting his words. Reason being he is someone who was accused of having a conflict of interest by Box Office India if this is to be believed, BOI expressed qualms. Note the timing of this tweet, and a subsequent article from BOI worded like a reply to it, which again suggests Adarsh is the supposed fraudster. One should be wary when citing potentially contested information. Also this. 2.51.191.30 ( talk) 13:25, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
I've begun copyediting Bollywood in response to a {{ copy edit}} tag. It's very long, and a good target for a split would be History of Indian cinema (currently a redirect to Cinema of India). Thoughts? All the best, Mini apolis 15:52, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
Hello. How does one reassess articles on Wikipedia after expanding them? I worked on this article and don't think it deserves the current stub classification. Help? Thanks, DeluxeVegan ( talk) 16:15, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Hello! I see a source being used in articles that is not on either the list of sources to use or avoid from our main page. Thoughts on this source? I'm not feeling strongly about it being reliable; see Wikipedia:Reliable_sources_checklist.
There is a discussion on the reliability of Osianama ( osianama.com) on the reliable sources noticeboard. If you're interested, please participate at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard § Kalpana Mohan Page. — Newslinger talk 08:53, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Can someone please improve this article and protect it from being deleted?-- Joseph 💬 18:15, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
It is unfortunate that this article is nominated for deletion. All sources listed are independent sources, except for a YouTube link for her song. She composed a film song at age 13 and is the youngest female music director in India and has composed or sang in multiple notable films. The article might need more fleshing out, but the subject is notable. 137.97.129.109 ( talk) 18:00, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
I have started peer review for India's first feature film Raja Harishchandra here. I am planning to take it to FAC in the near future. However, I dont have any previous experience with FACs so thought of putting PR first. I would appreciate if you can put your comments. Any constructive criticism is appreciated. - Vivvt ( Talk) 17:43, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi all, does anybody share my suspicion that Box Office India includes print and advertising costs in their budget figures? I feel like their budgets are often much higher than other estimates. For instance at Kesari (film), we have a range of 80 crore to 126 crore, the the lower figure coming from Business Today and the higher figure coming from BOI. 46 crore is a pretty significant gap, and I'm trying to figure out why. Anybody got any opinions? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 16:12, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Such templates shouldn't even exist, right? Yet there is Template:Manichitrathazhu character map (nominated for deletion), Template:Nuvvostanante Nenoddantana character map, Template:Kireedam character map, Template:Bodyguard character map and Template:Gunga Jumna character map. Wouldn't it be better if they simply served as navboxes mentioning only the films and their languages, not the characters? Cyphoidbomb and Krimuk2.0, please share your thoughts. -- Kailash29792 (talk) 04:44, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Filmcompanion.in - Is this a legit site whose opinion matters? I've seen it spring up here and there and I'm a little skeptical. See this for scope. Thoughts? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 03:19, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi all, an anonymous editor contacted me on my talk page about this, but many months back I was dealing with some IP vandalism at Joy Badlani, and a few other articles, where some pernicious editor was inflating various people's credits. Like here you can see that Badlani is alleged to have worked in Malayalam, Telugu, Kannada, Tamil and Bengali, which seems like it would be a big stretch for most Indian actors. The recent Anon believes that the vandalism has spread to IMDB. See Joy Badlani's page. Anyhow, I'm not finding a lot of trustworthy information about this guy, so I'm curious if any of you know whether he actually exists or not. I found this TOI source which has his name down as one of the main players, but I watched pre-release event on YouTube but didn't see the mustache man on stage. Here is listed as one of the "stars" of Sarkar, but I can't find any clips of him in that film. So, does he exist? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:04, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Is this move OK? I'm confused since "Hindi-films" seems like a better wording than "Bollywood".
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- Fylindfotberserk ( talk) 14:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Another "In house" awards like Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force/Archive_6#Request_for_Comment:_Star_Parivaar_Awards, Where a network give award to their own series and actors who portray roles in these series. So should these awards be included in TV series, actors and related articles. - Sid95Q ( talk) 07:30, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi,
I have come across an removing a source that I had inserted in Sura (film) with the comment: "Scoop times unreliable source removed". As a passing editor on the several Indian films, mainly to revert changes that run contrary to the sources quoted, I would like to know if Scoop Times is unreliable in general, or there are specific areas of Indian films that it can be quoted upon?
The same source is cited in a couple of other articles, one of which, Maanbumigu Maanavan, is PP-protected based on the edits/reverts made over the box office takings, as displayed in the source. The second article is Coimbatore Mappillai.
Also if scooptimes.com cannot be counted on for comments on box office showing, which other sites can I look at so that the necessary edits can be made? robertsky ( talk) 07:52, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Re-raising the
question on how to order languages in infobox, lead and other sections in case of multilingual films. Should it be based on industry primarily associated with the starring actors? or industry of production or there should be an alphabetical arrangement if more than one production houses? This is in reference to the ongoing language POV push in
Saaho. The instructions at
Template:Infobox film writes : Insert the language primarily used in the film
, but since the films was shot concurrently in multiple languages, wouldn't it be necessary to arrange them alphabetically? Secondly, the film
The Great Wall also arranges alphabetically. I was unable to find any guideline in
WP:ICTF. -
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AndhraBoxOffice.com is a trade website for box office collections and pre-release business figures of Telugu films. It is being quoted by film journalists at publications like The Hindu, Livemint, Times of India, Hindustan Times, Indian Express, IB Times etc. They have box office numbers for all major Telugu films of the past 10 years. Think it can be used as a source for Tollywood films. Please share your thoughts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kekamohan ( talk • contribs) 01:53, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
"it is more reliable for Telugu box office than IB Times which is known for inflated boxoffice figures". So go ahead, Kekamohan prove that it is more reliable. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 02:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
I just want to point out something. In few articles like List of accolades received by Padmaavat and Ram Kapoor#Awards where users added Dadasaheb Phalke International Film Festival Awards entries and references but wrongly linked Dadasaheb Phalke Award. So I request all the editors to rectify this mistake as this issue is on a lot of Film, Actors and accolades articles [38]. Sid95Q ( talk) 19:14, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
"The Dadasaheb Phalke Award is India's highest honour in the entertainment sector and is presented annually at the National Film Awards. Check out all the photos from the award ceremony below."The photos are just red-carpet snaps from the DP International Film Festival Awards. Horrendous. I agree that mentioning the confusion about copycat awards at the real award article might be worth considering. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 19:10, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
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Is http://cinetrak.in considered reliable source for box office figures, It is been used in some of List of Tamil films articles.-- Panda619 ( talk) 13:19, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Are actor salaries typically factored in budget? Turns out Indian film trades don't factor salaries in production budget (atleast, thats my assumption from Mission Mangal's budget (link is non-RS) reports), so wanted to know if this is the international norm or not. DeluxeVegan ( talk) 18:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
This Request for Comment about {{ Infobox film}} formatting might be of interest to this project: RfC: Is it relevant to list all composers for the film's music score and songs?. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:18, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
We have 100 Crore Club, 1000 Crore Club, recently 300 crore club popped up (not using the same naming convention). Do we need all of these? These seem like arbitrary landmarks, especially 300 crore. Thoughts? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 14:43, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
Sorry for the late notice - You are invited to participate at the Rfc Talk:2019 in film#Request for comment, which may be of interest to this taskforce. Thanks, DeluxeVegan ( talk) 21:06, 29 August 2019 (UTC)