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For anyone interested in the 1950s era of baseball, there are some great new image repositories that we can use. Vintage Card Traders has a black-and-white set of images, and there's also 1951 Bowman Baseball Cards.com. Bowman Gum's card are in the public domain, and the images should be uploaded to Commons with the appropriate Bowman cards template. Make sure, though, that if you use the second website, you are uploading only Bowman's card, and not Topps. Topps cards are copyrighted. Thanks in advance for anyone who participates in the upload drive. — KV5 • Talk • 00:50, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
I was just at the main page for the Detroit Tigers and the history section looks like a mess. It could use being broken out to a history article. Does anyone want to volunteer, like someone who has done other history articles? – Muboshgu ( talk) 12:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Viewers may wish to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Major League Baseball records considered unbreakable. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey guys. Currently, Wikipedia:Featured list candidates has a serious backlog due to lack of reviewers. Since we are one of the most prolific WikiProjects in terms of featured lists (we currently have five there), it would be nice for us to return the favor and review some that don't have too many eyes on them yet. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:41, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
User 64.180.212.125 (like me, he chooses not to log into an account) has been shadowing me removing links in articles I expand. Pete Harnisch for example. I believe he has been told before not to do that, but I'm not certain. In any case, he seems pretty certain that what he's doing is correct, and I'm pretty certain that it is incorrect. Pete Harnisch's article has been changing back and forth for a week now. Help please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.3.18.26 ( talk) 10:05, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Are there guidelines on articles about baseball stadiums or sports venues in general?
I'm looking at significantly expanding an article about a no-longer-extant minor-league ballpark and I guess I'm wondering (a) if it would ultimately meet WP:N criteria and (b) if there's a style guide, recommended infobox ( Template:Infobox stadium?), etc. Thanks. Woodshed ( talk) 00:57, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Recently there has been much discussion of rivalries including some deletion and consolidation of pages. This pertains.
"Regional Postseason Series" at Retrosheet. These 32 "regional series" were official—sanctioned by Baseball. For slightly more info see Talk:Major League Baseball rivalries#Retrosheet coverage. -- P64 ( talk) 01:52, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
I've opened this can of worms as it's been bothering me for a while. Please come and voice your opinion at the AFD for players with 2k hits. Staxringold talk contribs 19:32, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi all, there's some discussion happening over at Talk:Reds–Cardinals rivalry over essentially the notability of the article, e.g., is there really a proper rivalry between the two teams worthy of having its own article. Some more eyes, a third, or fourth, or fifth opinion wouldn't go amiss, as would some help cleaning it up / providing more information if possible. Thanks, umrguy 42 22:59, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Oh, unquestionably. By the way, since it was brought up as an WP:OTHERSTUFF type argument - what about Cubs-Brewers? It doesn't have quite the history of the others, but from what I've seen, I think it may be worthy enough to stand on its own, especially with the geography making it an easy geographical bit, and tying in similarly to the Green Bay-Chicago NFL rivalry... umrguy 42 13:47, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Oh, and I just found White Sox – Cubs rivalry game summary, so feel free to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/White Sox – Cubs rivalry game summary. – Muboshgu ( talk) 14:27, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Note: The article is now up for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reds–Cardinals_rivalry. umrguy 42 17:47, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Anyone here interested in joining the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brewers–Cubs rivalry? – Muboshgu ( talk) 13:06, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone know, can anyone count, how widely we list Baseball-Reference founder Sean Forman as the author of BB-Ref pages? For example, see 1918 World Series#References. At most he should now be named as editor ("Sean Forman, ed." and variations).
I don't see the same re Dave Smith or anyone else and Retrosheet pages. -- P64 ( talk) 19:59, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
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Which is the best way to classify these players?
Going to let other people answer before I give my reason. Osi tadinma 04:42, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of top 500 Major League Baseball home run hitters is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of top 500 Major League Baseball home run hitters until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. – Muboshgu ( talk) 01:52, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Hey everybody! We need more uni-fanatics on the Baseball uniform page. Right now there is now separation of flannel and double-knit eras and little discussion of that all-important item, stirrups. It needs better organization and more images. Unite!-- Factchk ( talk) 17:23, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks to Courcelles for the nomination work, our MLB draft pick project is finally all wrapped up. Please stop by the FTC if you get the chance! Staxringold talk contribs 21:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Just a quick note to say that I nominated a whole bunch of baseball articles for deletion today. Check them out at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Baseball. You might want one or two of them kept. – Muboshgu ( talk) 21:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Our article on Sabermetrics needs work. Obviously, this is an article that will be frequently targeted as it is often discussed but poorly understood by most baseball fans.
Currently, it is tagged as having too many indiscriminate lists. Namely, these lists consist of prominent saber proponents and saber stats. How do we want to solve this problem? My suggestion would be seeing if there a way we can incorporate at least some of these into prose, and perhaps explain some of them to give basic examples. Thoughts? Kansan ( talk) 06:01, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Page was kept. I'd like to revisit the criteria of the page. Baseball Bugs mentioned that the official baseball almanac uses a cutoff of the top 300. So, why are we using a cutoff of the top 500? Discuss here. – Muboshgu ( talk) 01:26, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
I would like to draw people's attention to this issue. Discussion there has died down without a resolution. It seems like there's consensus to shorten the page significantly, but by how much? – Muboshgu ( talk) 01:20, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
After some discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Homar Rojas, I think we need to clarify whether or not there is consensus for playing in the Mexican League carrying a presumption of notability for a player. The current guidelines talk about "top-level national league"s, but that's something of a vague term, and particularly so for LMB due to its unique status as a recognized minor league. To that end, I have started a discussion at the sports notability talk page. I hope to get some input beyond the 3-4 people participating in the deletion discussion. - Dewelar ( talk) 03:41, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Does the bot consider a section old based on the latest contribution regardless of layout? What happens if someone adds a newly dated comment to (or simply revises?) a section that has been archived?
Archiving is limited to formal Sections, so it will pass over a text preface that does not have a header, as it passes over the TOC. Right? Given answers to the above questions I will be happy to package them as a preface that will not be archived.-- P64 ( talk) 14:40, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Template:Mets–Phillies rivalry has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
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Not a baseball article but since these sorts of articles have been talked about this afd might be of interest to people here. - DJSasso ( talk) 17:20, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
Minor league players presently on 40-man rosters are generally considered notable enough for their own article, correct? That's the general consensus around here, right? Alex ( talk) 20:05, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
User:Namiba has been telling on my talk page that ( here there has been a consensus to use the phrase, "...is a Nationality professional baseball position with the team of league". However, the discussion he references ( here), hardly seems to come to any form of consensus. Personally, I prefer the format of "...is a league position for the team...", but if the other way is the true consensus, I won't lose any sleep over it. Basically, I just want to see if there's a consensus and either way and if there is, I'll follow it, but if there isn't, we need one.-- Giants27( T| C) 02:41, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm guessing that the answer to this question is no, but is http://www.jockbio.com/ a relieable source? Sanfranciscogiants17 ( talk) 18:30, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Would it be appropriate to use it as an external link? Sanfranciscogiants17 ( talk) 17:58, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
Tim Lincecum has been nominated for reassessment here if anyone is interested. AIRcorn (talk) 02:31, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
I really want to cut down List of top 500 Major League Baseball home run hitters to top 300 at a minimum, but discussion on that talk page is lacking. Any thoughts? – Muboshgu ( talk) 17:30, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Would you guys kindly provide your input on this issue?
Wikipedia talk:Categorization#Category:Minor league baseball players 01:10, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
Every so often there's an edit skirmish in that article, caused by history-challenged fans posting 1869 as the club's origin, instead of 1882 which is what it actually is. Today they even went so far as to claim that we're "anti-Reds", which is silly. Some more eyes on that page would be helpful. Thank you! ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:05, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
A user is trying to add the entire results (all 50 rounds) of the 2011 Major League Baseball Draft at this page, despite my insistence that this is excessive and that our consensus is to list the first round (including supplemental) only. This user is unwilling to engage in discussion, merely reverting my restoration of the consensus version of this page. – Muboshgu ( talk) 17:05, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
The CEO for the Rangers changed this year, and as a result the MLB owners had to vote to accept Nolan Ryan as the team representative for MLB ownership. After some vandalism was fixed, Euclidjr corrected the information, then added the tag '(Nolan Ryan, designated Controlling Owner by MLB)' to the ownership info. Although Ryan was voted and approved by MLB, he was not selected by the MLB owners, but by the Rangers and I believe the information added may be confusing, especially given the turmoil the team was in financially during the 2009 and 2010 season, and with the current problems the Dodgers are going through. Thank you, Red3biggs ( talk) 21:24, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Do you think being named an All-American in collegiate baseball passes the standard of Wikipedia:Notability (sports)#College athletes which states a biography is notable if they have "gained national media attention as an individual, not just as a player for a notable team"?-- TM 01:48, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
For lack of another place to inform project members, I have proposed a rename and merger for categories related to the defunct Northern League (baseball), here. Reso lute 14:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
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if you are hit by a pitch, outside of the strike zone and you try to avoid it, can you refuse to be awarded first and continue the at bat? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.92.62.234 ( talk) 19:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Hey all, I've started making animated diagrams to explain the difference between pitch types, since I felt the pitch-specific pages could really use a visual accompaniment. Feel free to leave your input and request any new pitch animations, and add these to any page you think could benefit from them AtomicRED ( talk) 03:33, 30 June 2011 (UTC):
The "brick wall" at Detroit Tigers needs "11 Anderson" added. TomCat4680 ( talk) 22:01, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Readers of this page may be interested in contributing to the discussion at Talk:Québec Capitales#Requested move. Cheers. - GTBacchus( talk) 18:21, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
This is an issue I brought up in the past. There is an editor who finds it necessary to convert "All-Star" to "All-Star Selection" in every former All-Star's infobox. There was a consensus the last time I brought this up that "All-Star" was more appropriate (I didn't archive the debate). Has there since been a new consensus that I am unaware of?
For the record, I'd like to put it out there that I prefer "All-Star" for many reasons:
1) I've never seen another site anywhere ever use the term "All-Star Selection." Everyone else just says "All-Star."
2) It would be more consistent with Wikipedia NBA & NFL articles as NBA players are simply referred to as "All Stars" and NFL players are simply referred to as "All Pro."
3) "All-Star Selection" is unnecessarily wordy.
3) It is technically inaccurate if the player was elected to the team.
...However, if I am wrong, let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.3.45.113 ( talk) 10:10, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
This is supposed to be the place where we're supposed to hammer out differences and reach a consensus yet, we never seem to decide on anything. The infobox seems to be a continuing source of contention. I, for one, think a batting championship is much more of a "career highlight" than a Hutch Award, which I'd never heard of before I joined Wikipedia yet, batting championships and home run crowns have been edited out of some infoboxes. Orsoni ( talk) 16:03, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
The totals section is very confusing as the totals for each location are listed at the bottom. There are 3 different totals listed before you get to the final total, which then includes the 5 seasons in which they played in the National Association the totals for which were not listed before. On top of that the Totals with playoffs actually are inexplicably less than the ones without.
In my opinion main total wins should not include the seasons they played in the NA, though there should be a franchise totals including those numbers. I don't know how y'all have gone about addressing other teams that started outside of the American or National League, but I think it would be best to separate those records from those in the MLB, to avoid subtraction when trying to find out MLB totals (users shouldn't need to check how many games/losses/wins a team had in another league then subtract those from the overall franchise record when trying to find the MLB totals).
A lot of the pages follow similar formats, I personally like the way the Orioles list is set up (Arizona and the Cubs have a similar set up too), which is very clean and simple. Also the reference link links you to the sites homepage, not to the list of the Atlanta Braves Season by Season results. Its also an obscure website, while most other teams list baseball-reference.com, which is a terrific site for stats, in addition to the list of seasons it provides totals for each incarnation of the Braves (it breaks down their time in Boston by name instead of just listing it as time spent in Boston).
Here's the baseball-reference.com link for the Atlanta Braves
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ATL/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iceman87GT ( talk • contribs) 20:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Can we get a temp protection on Josh Hamilton? We are getting a few 'murder' and Hamilton caused a fan's death type edits. Thank you Red3biggs ( talk) 21:40, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Can someone drop in at this article? User:Stewie814 and his corresponding IP have deleted content from the lede several times. I'm at my revert limit, so I'd be much obliged for an assist. — KV5 • Talk • 18:13, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Clap, clap, clap clap clap.
This is a heads up that I plan on nominating Derek Jeter for FA status on Monday, after we add some more details about hit #3000 and a few other changes I've been procrastinating. Any help you can provide is appreciated. – Muboshgu ( talk) 18:22, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
At Template:3000_hit_club, why is Jeter listed second to last -- isn't this supposed to be in chronological order? DRosenbach ( Talk | Contribs) 13:32, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
These edits [2] [3] state that the Minor League Baseball operates under the Commissioner of Baseball. I don't believe this to be the case; can anyone confirm or deny? isaacl ( talk) 01:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
He should be listed as a Manager in lists, manager's boxes or templates. What I'm discovering is that a lot of these wikipedia entries are leaving out managers. Mel Harder twice managed in Cleveland, George Myatt managed the Phillies in between Gene Mauch and Bob Skinner. Talking about Skinner, he managed in San Diego in between John McNamara and Alvin Dark. Mel Queen, Salty Parker, Buster Mills and Brandon Hyde are just a few others I've corrected. One editor took Hyde out of the Florida Marlin Manager Template insisting one game didn't make him a Manager. The population of the world is something close to 7 billion people, I think we can give credit to each of the just eleven people who filled out a lineup card for the Florida Marlins. William 00:59, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
As part of the work-in-progress style guidelines, I have drawn up an outline for a player article: Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Player style guidelines, based on the player articles that have reached Featured Article status, and a handful of other player articles I examined. Feedback is welcome (for simplicity, I suggest keeping any discussion on this page). isaacl ( talk) 04:55, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Would someone like to draw up a proposal for guidance on the career highlights section in the infobox? I'm not familiar with the previous discussion threads on this topic, so it would be nice if someone who is familiar with previous consensus could provide a starting point. You can suggest it here (perhaps in list form), or within the "Infobox" subsection under the "Guidelines" section on the player article style guidelines page. isaacl ( talk) 19:00, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Looking up players for my local team, the Omaha Storm Chasers, I saw that there are separate categories for Category:Omaha Storm Chasers players, Category:Omaha Royals players and Category:Omaha Golden Spikes players. However, they are all one team in history: they were the Omaha Royals from 1969-1998, Omaha Golden Spikes 1999-2001, Omaha Royals again 2002-2010, and starting this year the Omaha Storm Chasers. And all those categories are subcategories of Category:Minor league baseball players by team. I'm sure there are other examples of this phenomenom. Just curious if we should have the Omaha Royals and Omaha Golden Spikes players be subcategories of Omaha Storm Chasers players, which to me would look right, or if we should just leave it as is. DandyDan2007 ( talk) 07:30, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Talk:Adrián González#Requested move.
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Discussion underway as to the possibility that this guy is the same person as this guy. Evidence is scant but if anyone wants to chime in, go ahead. Spanneraol ( talk) 23:33, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Image is up for deletion. Please go to its deletion page and present your opinion (pro or con) on the matter, if you want to. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:10, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm having issues with an editor who seem to overly concern himself with minutia and seems to have ownership issues with every single baseball article on Wikipedia. I added 3× National League Batting Champion to Pete Rose's infobox. To me this is a legitimate career highlight. I don't understand why this guy would remove it. Likewise, I added the fact that Gil Meche led the AL in starts 2 years in a row. To me, that is a highlight as well. He also changed the name of the Sporting News AL Comeback Player of the Year Award to AL Comeback Player of the Year in Meche's infobox. That makes it technically inaccurate as there is a second award with this name presented by MLB, and that is NOT the award Meche won.
Could someone please talk to him. He doesn't seem to wanna listen to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.3.47.240 ( talk) 09:58, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
As a lifelong baseball fan, I would say batting championships and home run titles carry considerably more weight than a Hutch Award or even a Comeback Player of the Year Award that currently inhabit infoboxes. I think awards that are vaguely given for community involvement or for spirit demonstrated, would be better in a section of prose. This would leave more room in the infoboxes for weightier, statistical based honors commonly recognized by baseball fans (i.e. Schmidt's eight home run crowns, etc). Orsoni ( talk) 19:05, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
I just updated the Rangers roster template with the move of Gentry to the new 7-day concussion DL. However, the only choices we have are 15-day and 60-day. In the interest of accuracy, would it be ideal to add the 7-day possibility next to the injured (red cross) image or add a new one? -- bmitchelf• T• F 00:07, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Ah. trade deadline time.. or as we should call it the "Attack of the IPs"... anonymous users adding premature trade rumors as though they were facts... What fun. Spanneraol ( talk) 03:55, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Hey all. I've been tossing around a couple potential collaboration ideas in my head, since they're usually very successful when we really put our minds to it. As such, I've been looking at the many World Series articles that are not very good as possibilities. We have 3 FAs for them, but that's 100+ more that are nowhere near that. Any particular ones you guys would be interested in tackling? I have a couple in mind but I'll see what you guys think up first. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:29, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
I was looking at the Sky Chiefs article and noticed it is inaccurate inasmuch as it identifies as one franchise the various teams that have been known as the Chiefs. As the commonly accepted definition of a franchise refers to the team itself, and not to the various teams which might have played in a given place, under a given name, this opens the door to a great deal of confusion when the term is misused as it is in this article. For example, it would seem that the team played itself in some International League Championships, if one were to look at the list of Chiefs and Montreal Royals appearances (as the Chiefs were the Montreal Royals until 1960). The article would be better re-written as one about the history of pro baseball in Syracuse. A new Chiefs article could then be written that deals with the history of that specific franchise in Syracuse. Jphieffer ( talk) 01:32, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
We seem to have a couple of redundant categories in Category:Major League Baseball player–managers and Category:Baseball player–managers. I'm assuming the majority of players in the latter category were player-managers in the major leagues. Orsoni ( talk) 06:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I am Pepper543210, and I wanted to gauge interest for a task force focused on the Houston Astros. There are a lot of articles involving the Houston Astros that need some work, so I thought that a task force dedicated to improving these articles would be best for this. If you are interested, just say so in this section. After enough people have joined (5?) and permission is given, I will create the page and link it in the WikiProject itself under team-specific task forces. Pepper543210 ( talk) 02:10, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Should this Bud Black be named Bud Black (Detroit), Bud Black (Detroit Tigers pitcher), or Bud Black (Bud Black (right-handed pitcher) (as it was previously named)? Adam Penale ( talk) 20:29, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
I was using "anarchy" to describe determining everything on a case-by-case basis, which it seemed you might be proposing. "Everything case-by-case" is, in this instance, the logical equivalent of "no rules", i.e. anarchy. If we can't even use the definition of a word correctly, then the word is meaningless. Additionally, "common sense" doesn't apply in a situation where different people hold legitimately different views on what's "better". Again, that's the whole reason we have these conventions, and why seeking to short-circuit them because you don't like them is unhelpful. - Dewelar ( talk) 20:14, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
We have 1,000's of biographies, season recaps for teams, leagues and great material site wide. I want to contribute to the site and add my site as a external link where applicable. My material has been written by:
Robert Cohen - National baseball author Bill Nowlin - SABR Vice President and dozens of other national authors and people in high esteem in the baseball community.
I do want to add my contributions get deleted when I have tried to add.
Tom Hannon www.thebaseballpage.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littleebbets ( talk • contribs) 08:18, August 8, 2011
I can add, quotes, stories, facts, stats and there are many stubs or pages with little if any information on them that are baseball related. We are willing to share our stories and data. Additionally, if you allow us to link to the pages our site offers a different alternative. It has stats, plus player video, images and other related content that users may find interesting during there research for on a player, season or event.
I can't find any confirmation one way or the other, but the press releases for the DHL Delivery Man Award winners no longer include a mention of DHL. From this, I see that there was some talk about a "cloudy future", but I can't find anything definitively saying the sponsorship was cut off. – Muboshgu ( talk) 21:04, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Does this seem like a notable enough subject to write a stand alone article on. I can find sources I know where to look. I just don't want to spend days writing it only for it to be AfD'd. chris † ianrocker90 07:36, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Below template. You may notice that I have added Template:MLB roster template footer to each team roster template. This makes the templates analogous to the National Basketball Association and National Football League roster templates. For examples, Template:Chicago Cubs roster navbox, Template:Chicago Bulls current roster and Template:Chicago Bears roster.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 03:21, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
At a current baseball CFD, the nom has asserted in support of his nomination that: "Major League Baseball is an American organization, so we can argue that all participants are at some level American. Emphasis added.
The discussion is taking place here.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 07:38, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Is Trevor Gretzky notable enough to remove the few lines about his career from Wayne Gretzky and create his own page? When I Google News searched it, it does give 327 articles. But since they are largely about his drafting and signing and likely a portion of them are wire stories, does this pass WP:GNG? I realize that this project typically does not create articles for players who have not appeared in the Majors (or in Trevor's case Minors either). But the additions about his baseball career do seem out of place on his Dad's article. Shootmaster 44 ( talk) 19:12, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Please copyedit I don't know if any of you care, but I've frequently seen instances of {{
Infobox MLB player}} that have text like "3x Cy Young Award winner" or "5x All-Star". The problem with this text is that it uses lower-case/miniscule
x rather than the proper times sign (
×.) For those of you copyeditors who are sticklers for such things (and I know I am), you can fix this by replacing x
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The title Billy Williams (left fielder) seems to be something of a disservice to a Hall of famer. Personally, I would go with Billy Williams (baseball), with the guy who appeared in a handful of games for the Seattle Pilots remaining Billy Williams (right fielder), however, even Billy Williams (Hall of famer) would be a better title than Billy Williams (left fielder). That just seems ridiculous to me.
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Somehow, this slipped past us, but the article National Association as a major league was PRODded and then deleted on August 10. The page is linked on several important pages, including the page for the sport of baseball itself. I only noticed myself because I saw the redlink on List of Major League Baseball players, but I think we need to get this article un-deleted (and, yeah, it would be nice if someone worked on it), given the rather important status of the controversy in baseball historian circles. - Dewelar ( talk) 18:35, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
I brought up this topic a few years ago, but my activity has since come and gone, so I've sort of lost touch with the activity around here. I've been wondering lately what everyone's stances are on the game logs for season articles. I know that they are mostly kept up-to-date for recent years, but is it a long-term goal to have all of the game logs completed for all years? Obviously this is an exceptionally large task, but I was curious what people thought about it. Personally, I've never found the game logs intrusive because they are easily collapsible; I'll probably work on them here and there unless there is an overwhelming amount of negativity towards them. Just curious about opinions here :) JJ (talk) 21:46, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Too bad there's not a way we can just do a mass removal of game logs. Worthless and keeps articles from being at their best. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 02:13, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
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For anyone interested in the 1950s era of baseball, there are some great new image repositories that we can use. Vintage Card Traders has a black-and-white set of images, and there's also 1951 Bowman Baseball Cards.com. Bowman Gum's card are in the public domain, and the images should be uploaded to Commons with the appropriate Bowman cards template. Make sure, though, that if you use the second website, you are uploading only Bowman's card, and not Topps. Topps cards are copyrighted. Thanks in advance for anyone who participates in the upload drive. — KV5 • Talk • 00:50, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
I was just at the main page for the Detroit Tigers and the history section looks like a mess. It could use being broken out to a history article. Does anyone want to volunteer, like someone who has done other history articles? – Muboshgu ( talk) 12:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Viewers may wish to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Major League Baseball records considered unbreakable. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey guys. Currently, Wikipedia:Featured list candidates has a serious backlog due to lack of reviewers. Since we are one of the most prolific WikiProjects in terms of featured lists (we currently have five there), it would be nice for us to return the favor and review some that don't have too many eyes on them yet. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:41, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
User 64.180.212.125 (like me, he chooses not to log into an account) has been shadowing me removing links in articles I expand. Pete Harnisch for example. I believe he has been told before not to do that, but I'm not certain. In any case, he seems pretty certain that what he's doing is correct, and I'm pretty certain that it is incorrect. Pete Harnisch's article has been changing back and forth for a week now. Help please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.3.18.26 ( talk) 10:05, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Are there guidelines on articles about baseball stadiums or sports venues in general?
I'm looking at significantly expanding an article about a no-longer-extant minor-league ballpark and I guess I'm wondering (a) if it would ultimately meet WP:N criteria and (b) if there's a style guide, recommended infobox ( Template:Infobox stadium?), etc. Thanks. Woodshed ( talk) 00:57, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Recently there has been much discussion of rivalries including some deletion and consolidation of pages. This pertains.
"Regional Postseason Series" at Retrosheet. These 32 "regional series" were official—sanctioned by Baseball. For slightly more info see Talk:Major League Baseball rivalries#Retrosheet coverage. -- P64 ( talk) 01:52, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
I've opened this can of worms as it's been bothering me for a while. Please come and voice your opinion at the AFD for players with 2k hits. Staxringold talk contribs 19:32, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi all, there's some discussion happening over at Talk:Reds–Cardinals rivalry over essentially the notability of the article, e.g., is there really a proper rivalry between the two teams worthy of having its own article. Some more eyes, a third, or fourth, or fifth opinion wouldn't go amiss, as would some help cleaning it up / providing more information if possible. Thanks, umrguy 42 22:59, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Oh, unquestionably. By the way, since it was brought up as an WP:OTHERSTUFF type argument - what about Cubs-Brewers? It doesn't have quite the history of the others, but from what I've seen, I think it may be worthy enough to stand on its own, especially with the geography making it an easy geographical bit, and tying in similarly to the Green Bay-Chicago NFL rivalry... umrguy 42 13:47, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Oh, and I just found White Sox – Cubs rivalry game summary, so feel free to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/White Sox – Cubs rivalry game summary. – Muboshgu ( talk) 14:27, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Note: The article is now up for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reds–Cardinals_rivalry. umrguy 42 17:47, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Anyone here interested in joining the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brewers–Cubs rivalry? – Muboshgu ( talk) 13:06, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone know, can anyone count, how widely we list Baseball-Reference founder Sean Forman as the author of BB-Ref pages? For example, see 1918 World Series#References. At most he should now be named as editor ("Sean Forman, ed." and variations).
I don't see the same re Dave Smith or anyone else and Retrosheet pages. -- P64 ( talk) 19:59, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
|last1 = Francis |first1 = Henry G., Editor-in-Chief |authorlink1 = |last2 = Truscott |first2 = Alan F., Executive Editor |authorlink2 = Alan Truscott
Which is the best way to classify these players?
Going to let other people answer before I give my reason. Osi tadinma 04:42, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of top 500 Major League Baseball home run hitters is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of top 500 Major League Baseball home run hitters until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. – Muboshgu ( talk) 01:52, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Hey everybody! We need more uni-fanatics on the Baseball uniform page. Right now there is now separation of flannel and double-knit eras and little discussion of that all-important item, stirrups. It needs better organization and more images. Unite!-- Factchk ( talk) 17:23, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks to Courcelles for the nomination work, our MLB draft pick project is finally all wrapped up. Please stop by the FTC if you get the chance! Staxringold talk contribs 21:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Just a quick note to say that I nominated a whole bunch of baseball articles for deletion today. Check them out at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Baseball. You might want one or two of them kept. – Muboshgu ( talk) 21:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Our article on Sabermetrics needs work. Obviously, this is an article that will be frequently targeted as it is often discussed but poorly understood by most baseball fans.
Currently, it is tagged as having too many indiscriminate lists. Namely, these lists consist of prominent saber proponents and saber stats. How do we want to solve this problem? My suggestion would be seeing if there a way we can incorporate at least some of these into prose, and perhaps explain some of them to give basic examples. Thoughts? Kansan ( talk) 06:01, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Page was kept. I'd like to revisit the criteria of the page. Baseball Bugs mentioned that the official baseball almanac uses a cutoff of the top 300. So, why are we using a cutoff of the top 500? Discuss here. – Muboshgu ( talk) 01:26, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
I would like to draw people's attention to this issue. Discussion there has died down without a resolution. It seems like there's consensus to shorten the page significantly, but by how much? – Muboshgu ( talk) 01:20, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
After some discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Homar Rojas, I think we need to clarify whether or not there is consensus for playing in the Mexican League carrying a presumption of notability for a player. The current guidelines talk about "top-level national league"s, but that's something of a vague term, and particularly so for LMB due to its unique status as a recognized minor league. To that end, I have started a discussion at the sports notability talk page. I hope to get some input beyond the 3-4 people participating in the deletion discussion. - Dewelar ( talk) 03:41, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Does the bot consider a section old based on the latest contribution regardless of layout? What happens if someone adds a newly dated comment to (or simply revises?) a section that has been archived?
Archiving is limited to formal Sections, so it will pass over a text preface that does not have a header, as it passes over the TOC. Right? Given answers to the above questions I will be happy to package them as a preface that will not be archived.-- P64 ( talk) 14:40, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Template:Mets–Phillies rivalry has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
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Not a baseball article but since these sorts of articles have been talked about this afd might be of interest to people here. - DJSasso ( talk) 17:20, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
Minor league players presently on 40-man rosters are generally considered notable enough for their own article, correct? That's the general consensus around here, right? Alex ( talk) 20:05, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
User:Namiba has been telling on my talk page that ( here there has been a consensus to use the phrase, "...is a Nationality professional baseball position with the team of league". However, the discussion he references ( here), hardly seems to come to any form of consensus. Personally, I prefer the format of "...is a league position for the team...", but if the other way is the true consensus, I won't lose any sleep over it. Basically, I just want to see if there's a consensus and either way and if there is, I'll follow it, but if there isn't, we need one.-- Giants27( T| C) 02:41, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm guessing that the answer to this question is no, but is http://www.jockbio.com/ a relieable source? Sanfranciscogiants17 ( talk) 18:30, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Would it be appropriate to use it as an external link? Sanfranciscogiants17 ( talk) 17:58, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
Tim Lincecum has been nominated for reassessment here if anyone is interested. AIRcorn (talk) 02:31, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
I really want to cut down List of top 500 Major League Baseball home run hitters to top 300 at a minimum, but discussion on that talk page is lacking. Any thoughts? – Muboshgu ( talk) 17:30, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Would you guys kindly provide your input on this issue?
Wikipedia talk:Categorization#Category:Minor league baseball players 01:10, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
Every so often there's an edit skirmish in that article, caused by history-challenged fans posting 1869 as the club's origin, instead of 1882 which is what it actually is. Today they even went so far as to claim that we're "anti-Reds", which is silly. Some more eyes on that page would be helpful. Thank you! ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:05, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
A user is trying to add the entire results (all 50 rounds) of the 2011 Major League Baseball Draft at this page, despite my insistence that this is excessive and that our consensus is to list the first round (including supplemental) only. This user is unwilling to engage in discussion, merely reverting my restoration of the consensus version of this page. – Muboshgu ( talk) 17:05, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
The CEO for the Rangers changed this year, and as a result the MLB owners had to vote to accept Nolan Ryan as the team representative for MLB ownership. After some vandalism was fixed, Euclidjr corrected the information, then added the tag '(Nolan Ryan, designated Controlling Owner by MLB)' to the ownership info. Although Ryan was voted and approved by MLB, he was not selected by the MLB owners, but by the Rangers and I believe the information added may be confusing, especially given the turmoil the team was in financially during the 2009 and 2010 season, and with the current problems the Dodgers are going through. Thank you, Red3biggs ( talk) 21:24, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Do you think being named an All-American in collegiate baseball passes the standard of Wikipedia:Notability (sports)#College athletes which states a biography is notable if they have "gained national media attention as an individual, not just as a player for a notable team"?-- TM 01:48, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
For lack of another place to inform project members, I have proposed a rename and merger for categories related to the defunct Northern League (baseball), here. Reso lute 14:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
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if you are hit by a pitch, outside of the strike zone and you try to avoid it, can you refuse to be awarded first and continue the at bat? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.92.62.234 ( talk) 19:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Hey all, I've started making animated diagrams to explain the difference between pitch types, since I felt the pitch-specific pages could really use a visual accompaniment. Feel free to leave your input and request any new pitch animations, and add these to any page you think could benefit from them AtomicRED ( talk) 03:33, 30 June 2011 (UTC):
The "brick wall" at Detroit Tigers needs "11 Anderson" added. TomCat4680 ( talk) 22:01, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Readers of this page may be interested in contributing to the discussion at Talk:Québec Capitales#Requested move. Cheers. - GTBacchus( talk) 18:21, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
This is an issue I brought up in the past. There is an editor who finds it necessary to convert "All-Star" to "All-Star Selection" in every former All-Star's infobox. There was a consensus the last time I brought this up that "All-Star" was more appropriate (I didn't archive the debate). Has there since been a new consensus that I am unaware of?
For the record, I'd like to put it out there that I prefer "All-Star" for many reasons:
1) I've never seen another site anywhere ever use the term "All-Star Selection." Everyone else just says "All-Star."
2) It would be more consistent with Wikipedia NBA & NFL articles as NBA players are simply referred to as "All Stars" and NFL players are simply referred to as "All Pro."
3) "All-Star Selection" is unnecessarily wordy.
3) It is technically inaccurate if the player was elected to the team.
...However, if I am wrong, let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.3.45.113 ( talk) 10:10, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
This is supposed to be the place where we're supposed to hammer out differences and reach a consensus yet, we never seem to decide on anything. The infobox seems to be a continuing source of contention. I, for one, think a batting championship is much more of a "career highlight" than a Hutch Award, which I'd never heard of before I joined Wikipedia yet, batting championships and home run crowns have been edited out of some infoboxes. Orsoni ( talk) 16:03, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
The totals section is very confusing as the totals for each location are listed at the bottom. There are 3 different totals listed before you get to the final total, which then includes the 5 seasons in which they played in the National Association the totals for which were not listed before. On top of that the Totals with playoffs actually are inexplicably less than the ones without.
In my opinion main total wins should not include the seasons they played in the NA, though there should be a franchise totals including those numbers. I don't know how y'all have gone about addressing other teams that started outside of the American or National League, but I think it would be best to separate those records from those in the MLB, to avoid subtraction when trying to find out MLB totals (users shouldn't need to check how many games/losses/wins a team had in another league then subtract those from the overall franchise record when trying to find the MLB totals).
A lot of the pages follow similar formats, I personally like the way the Orioles list is set up (Arizona and the Cubs have a similar set up too), which is very clean and simple. Also the reference link links you to the sites homepage, not to the list of the Atlanta Braves Season by Season results. Its also an obscure website, while most other teams list baseball-reference.com, which is a terrific site for stats, in addition to the list of seasons it provides totals for each incarnation of the Braves (it breaks down their time in Boston by name instead of just listing it as time spent in Boston).
Here's the baseball-reference.com link for the Atlanta Braves
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ATL/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iceman87GT ( talk • contribs) 20:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Can we get a temp protection on Josh Hamilton? We are getting a few 'murder' and Hamilton caused a fan's death type edits. Thank you Red3biggs ( talk) 21:40, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Can someone drop in at this article? User:Stewie814 and his corresponding IP have deleted content from the lede several times. I'm at my revert limit, so I'd be much obliged for an assist. — KV5 • Talk • 18:13, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Clap, clap, clap clap clap.
This is a heads up that I plan on nominating Derek Jeter for FA status on Monday, after we add some more details about hit #3000 and a few other changes I've been procrastinating. Any help you can provide is appreciated. – Muboshgu ( talk) 18:22, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
At Template:3000_hit_club, why is Jeter listed second to last -- isn't this supposed to be in chronological order? DRosenbach ( Talk | Contribs) 13:32, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
These edits [2] [3] state that the Minor League Baseball operates under the Commissioner of Baseball. I don't believe this to be the case; can anyone confirm or deny? isaacl ( talk) 01:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
He should be listed as a Manager in lists, manager's boxes or templates. What I'm discovering is that a lot of these wikipedia entries are leaving out managers. Mel Harder twice managed in Cleveland, George Myatt managed the Phillies in between Gene Mauch and Bob Skinner. Talking about Skinner, he managed in San Diego in between John McNamara and Alvin Dark. Mel Queen, Salty Parker, Buster Mills and Brandon Hyde are just a few others I've corrected. One editor took Hyde out of the Florida Marlin Manager Template insisting one game didn't make him a Manager. The population of the world is something close to 7 billion people, I think we can give credit to each of the just eleven people who filled out a lineup card for the Florida Marlins. William 00:59, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
As part of the work-in-progress style guidelines, I have drawn up an outline for a player article: Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Player style guidelines, based on the player articles that have reached Featured Article status, and a handful of other player articles I examined. Feedback is welcome (for simplicity, I suggest keeping any discussion on this page). isaacl ( talk) 04:55, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Would someone like to draw up a proposal for guidance on the career highlights section in the infobox? I'm not familiar with the previous discussion threads on this topic, so it would be nice if someone who is familiar with previous consensus could provide a starting point. You can suggest it here (perhaps in list form), or within the "Infobox" subsection under the "Guidelines" section on the player article style guidelines page. isaacl ( talk) 19:00, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Looking up players for my local team, the Omaha Storm Chasers, I saw that there are separate categories for Category:Omaha Storm Chasers players, Category:Omaha Royals players and Category:Omaha Golden Spikes players. However, they are all one team in history: they were the Omaha Royals from 1969-1998, Omaha Golden Spikes 1999-2001, Omaha Royals again 2002-2010, and starting this year the Omaha Storm Chasers. And all those categories are subcategories of Category:Minor league baseball players by team. I'm sure there are other examples of this phenomenom. Just curious if we should have the Omaha Royals and Omaha Golden Spikes players be subcategories of Omaha Storm Chasers players, which to me would look right, or if we should just leave it as is. DandyDan2007 ( talk) 07:30, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Talk:Adrián González#Requested move.
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Discussion underway as to the possibility that this guy is the same person as this guy. Evidence is scant but if anyone wants to chime in, go ahead. Spanneraol ( talk) 23:33, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Image is up for deletion. Please go to its deletion page and present your opinion (pro or con) on the matter, if you want to. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:10, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm having issues with an editor who seem to overly concern himself with minutia and seems to have ownership issues with every single baseball article on Wikipedia. I added 3× National League Batting Champion to Pete Rose's infobox. To me this is a legitimate career highlight. I don't understand why this guy would remove it. Likewise, I added the fact that Gil Meche led the AL in starts 2 years in a row. To me, that is a highlight as well. He also changed the name of the Sporting News AL Comeback Player of the Year Award to AL Comeback Player of the Year in Meche's infobox. That makes it technically inaccurate as there is a second award with this name presented by MLB, and that is NOT the award Meche won.
Could someone please talk to him. He doesn't seem to wanna listen to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.3.47.240 ( talk) 09:58, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
As a lifelong baseball fan, I would say batting championships and home run titles carry considerably more weight than a Hutch Award or even a Comeback Player of the Year Award that currently inhabit infoboxes. I think awards that are vaguely given for community involvement or for spirit demonstrated, would be better in a section of prose. This would leave more room in the infoboxes for weightier, statistical based honors commonly recognized by baseball fans (i.e. Schmidt's eight home run crowns, etc). Orsoni ( talk) 19:05, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
I just updated the Rangers roster template with the move of Gentry to the new 7-day concussion DL. However, the only choices we have are 15-day and 60-day. In the interest of accuracy, would it be ideal to add the 7-day possibility next to the injured (red cross) image or add a new one? -- bmitchelf• T• F 00:07, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Ah. trade deadline time.. or as we should call it the "Attack of the IPs"... anonymous users adding premature trade rumors as though they were facts... What fun. Spanneraol ( talk) 03:55, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Hey all. I've been tossing around a couple potential collaboration ideas in my head, since they're usually very successful when we really put our minds to it. As such, I've been looking at the many World Series articles that are not very good as possibilities. We have 3 FAs for them, but that's 100+ more that are nowhere near that. Any particular ones you guys would be interested in tackling? I have a couple in mind but I'll see what you guys think up first. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:29, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
I was looking at the Sky Chiefs article and noticed it is inaccurate inasmuch as it identifies as one franchise the various teams that have been known as the Chiefs. As the commonly accepted definition of a franchise refers to the team itself, and not to the various teams which might have played in a given place, under a given name, this opens the door to a great deal of confusion when the term is misused as it is in this article. For example, it would seem that the team played itself in some International League Championships, if one were to look at the list of Chiefs and Montreal Royals appearances (as the Chiefs were the Montreal Royals until 1960). The article would be better re-written as one about the history of pro baseball in Syracuse. A new Chiefs article could then be written that deals with the history of that specific franchise in Syracuse. Jphieffer ( talk) 01:32, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
We seem to have a couple of redundant categories in Category:Major League Baseball player–managers and Category:Baseball player–managers. I'm assuming the majority of players in the latter category were player-managers in the major leagues. Orsoni ( talk) 06:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I am Pepper543210, and I wanted to gauge interest for a task force focused on the Houston Astros. There are a lot of articles involving the Houston Astros that need some work, so I thought that a task force dedicated to improving these articles would be best for this. If you are interested, just say so in this section. After enough people have joined (5?) and permission is given, I will create the page and link it in the WikiProject itself under team-specific task forces. Pepper543210 ( talk) 02:10, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Should this Bud Black be named Bud Black (Detroit), Bud Black (Detroit Tigers pitcher), or Bud Black (Bud Black (right-handed pitcher) (as it was previously named)? Adam Penale ( talk) 20:29, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
I was using "anarchy" to describe determining everything on a case-by-case basis, which it seemed you might be proposing. "Everything case-by-case" is, in this instance, the logical equivalent of "no rules", i.e. anarchy. If we can't even use the definition of a word correctly, then the word is meaningless. Additionally, "common sense" doesn't apply in a situation where different people hold legitimately different views on what's "better". Again, that's the whole reason we have these conventions, and why seeking to short-circuit them because you don't like them is unhelpful. - Dewelar ( talk) 20:14, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
We have 1,000's of biographies, season recaps for teams, leagues and great material site wide. I want to contribute to the site and add my site as a external link where applicable. My material has been written by:
Robert Cohen - National baseball author Bill Nowlin - SABR Vice President and dozens of other national authors and people in high esteem in the baseball community.
I do want to add my contributions get deleted when I have tried to add.
Tom Hannon www.thebaseballpage.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littleebbets ( talk • contribs) 08:18, August 8, 2011
I can add, quotes, stories, facts, stats and there are many stubs or pages with little if any information on them that are baseball related. We are willing to share our stories and data. Additionally, if you allow us to link to the pages our site offers a different alternative. It has stats, plus player video, images and other related content that users may find interesting during there research for on a player, season or event.
I can't find any confirmation one way or the other, but the press releases for the DHL Delivery Man Award winners no longer include a mention of DHL. From this, I see that there was some talk about a "cloudy future", but I can't find anything definitively saying the sponsorship was cut off. – Muboshgu ( talk) 21:04, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Does this seem like a notable enough subject to write a stand alone article on. I can find sources I know where to look. I just don't want to spend days writing it only for it to be AfD'd. chris † ianrocker90 07:36, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Below template. You may notice that I have added Template:MLB roster template footer to each team roster template. This makes the templates analogous to the National Basketball Association and National Football League roster templates. For examples, Template:Chicago Cubs roster navbox, Template:Chicago Bulls current roster and Template:Chicago Bears roster.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 03:21, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
At a current baseball CFD, the nom has asserted in support of his nomination that: "Major League Baseball is an American organization, so we can argue that all participants are at some level American. Emphasis added.
The discussion is taking place here.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 07:38, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Is Trevor Gretzky notable enough to remove the few lines about his career from Wayne Gretzky and create his own page? When I Google News searched it, it does give 327 articles. But since they are largely about his drafting and signing and likely a portion of them are wire stories, does this pass WP:GNG? I realize that this project typically does not create articles for players who have not appeared in the Majors (or in Trevor's case Minors either). But the additions about his baseball career do seem out of place on his Dad's article. Shootmaster 44 ( talk) 19:12, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Please copyedit I don't know if any of you care, but I've frequently seen instances of {{
Infobox MLB player}} that have text like "3x Cy Young Award winner" or "5x All-Star". The problem with this text is that it uses lower-case/miniscule
x rather than the proper times sign (
×.) For those of you copyeditors who are sticklers for such things (and I know I am), you can fix this by replacing x
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The title Billy Williams (left fielder) seems to be something of a disservice to a Hall of famer. Personally, I would go with Billy Williams (baseball), with the guy who appeared in a handful of games for the Seattle Pilots remaining Billy Williams (right fielder), however, even Billy Williams (Hall of famer) would be a better title than Billy Williams (left fielder). That just seems ridiculous to me.
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Somehow, this slipped past us, but the article National Association as a major league was PRODded and then deleted on August 10. The page is linked on several important pages, including the page for the sport of baseball itself. I only noticed myself because I saw the redlink on List of Major League Baseball players, but I think we need to get this article un-deleted (and, yeah, it would be nice if someone worked on it), given the rather important status of the controversy in baseball historian circles. - Dewelar ( talk) 18:35, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
I brought up this topic a few years ago, but my activity has since come and gone, so I've sort of lost touch with the activity around here. I've been wondering lately what everyone's stances are on the game logs for season articles. I know that they are mostly kept up-to-date for recent years, but is it a long-term goal to have all of the game logs completed for all years? Obviously this is an exceptionally large task, but I was curious what people thought about it. Personally, I've never found the game logs intrusive because they are easily collapsible; I'll probably work on them here and there unless there is an overwhelming amount of negativity towards them. Just curious about opinions here :) JJ (talk) 21:46, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Too bad there's not a way we can just do a mass removal of game logs. Worthless and keeps articles from being at their best. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 02:13, 23 August 2011 (UTC)