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The Wikiproject has officially started, currently I am trying to get all the categories and the banner set up and working, assessments and such will follow, but this is really complicated for me. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 15:16, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
First link is 404. Here is the link to the archive. http://web.archive.org/web/20080803014128/www.bishojyogameaward.org/2008/ranking.asp Though this is helpful as well. [1] Though Neko magic had some interesting.. figure related postings. [2] [3] Not to many RS in english. Japanese coverage seems only real option. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 04:58, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Mass reverting of our tags for the Yaoi genre, including Yaoi itself was carried out by Juhachi and Kaze-kun. While I place the tags as they fell under the recursive Hentai category, I did not place all files under our scope. This leads me to two issues, the Wikiproject is not under WP:ANIME's control, we are our own project. And while the matter falls under WP:PROJGUIDE#OWN. Works like Cut (manga) are under the Yaoi category but is Heavenly Body under our scope? Japanese yaoi is not American yaoi, the same way that English use of hentai is not the Japanese use of hentai. I see one of two things. A categorization redefining to end the problem for good, or we take anything labeled Yaoi and Yuri publications due to the complexity in discussing whether or not these romances contain explicit content. Ones containing explicit content are shrink wrapped in plastic, but may not contain the 18+ sticker if it is not overly graphic. Though to be fair even such sites as the Comic book bin define Yaoi as: "Yaoi manga is a subset of boys’ love manga (BL) and features explicit depictions of sex between male characters." as on their Punch Up! review. [ [4] And while the wiki doesn't point to every single one, Blood Honey is explicit and Juhachi removed its tag. CBB's stance? Explicit, its on the cover. [5] ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 14:17, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
NOTE, At WT:WikiProject Anime and manga, there is an RFC concerning the fate of WP:WikiProject Hentai -- 65.94.76.126 ( talk) 07:25, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
At the moment the project banner image is of the text 変態 (hentai), but I don't think this is the best choice. In Japanese it means "pervert", and isn't used to refer to adult anime and manga. The word for adult manga is 成人向け漫画 (seijin muke manga) and the word for adult anime is アダルトアニメ (adaruto anime). I can see why you've gone with the kanji rather than with a more, ahem, graphical representation of the genre, but I still think there must be a better choice. Perhaps File:Wikipe tan wearing a bikini by Kasuga39.svg? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:47, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
As much as I love Wikipe-tan I have to sadly agree per above, seeing wikipe-tan is a mascot she can not be used in anything obscene. There have been a-lot of editors in the past that have tried to delete wikipe-tan from wikipedia because of this. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 16:42, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
I've gotten the article quality and importance table working, hurray. This table is more then just mere inspection, by clicking on any subsection you can see the the articles and how they stack up, Hentai's current score is 1511, but many 0 score articles exist and those need to be improved a lot. The score is quite a bit arbitrary, but for now we have a good basis for figuring out which ones need to be improved and which ones can hold off for a bit longer. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 14:51, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
I have not gotten the watchlist working for the project yet, I hope to do in the coming days. A major concern has been the tag issue. With Shotacon and Lolicon being removed from our list despite being major sub-genres of hentai. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 15:51, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Just noticed that while this group's title is "WikiProject Hentai" its scope includes ecchi as well. Considering the different meanings of the two words, wouldn't it be more appropriate to change the title to "WikiProject Hentai and ecchi"? Despite "Many ecchi works [being] described as hentai by English users", I don't think an encyclopedic group should do that as well. Xfansd ( talk) 05:15, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Juhachi's assessment as well. The obvious thing would be to redo the custom banner to include ecchi in the list, I used the default template and it automatically uses the singular hentai link. If we go change it to 'ero' works, I still see problems. I really intended this to be a taskforce of ANIME at the beginning, but we would lose our categorization, importance system, and the article watch system and complicate navigation and focus. Also, the talk page banner which allows these to be noted will also have to be removed further complicating two of the key points above. The content and works we cover are also not suitable for underage viewers, I like keeping them separated as much as possible. I want this to be considered a task force, but remain independent. WP:ANIME is going through a lot of conflict right now, the issues have scattered my attention enough that I haven't been able to work on aspects of these topics. If we include ecchi works in our title, a lot of works like Love Hina and Negima will get included despite not making the mark, To Love-ru pushes it further yes, but I see no resolution because of the definition differences held by editors. So what do you two want to do? ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 13:42, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks to Svick for adding us to the Cleanup listing project. I've gone through and found archive links for the dead links for the project. Hopefully, we will reduce these issues by 20% next month. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 15:04, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
In the signpost Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-05-27/In_the_media, there is an article which links to Kotaku, run by Gawker which is worth the read. [7] Titled "Wikipedia Writers Sure Know Their Hentai" it features the differences between the Chinese and English language coverage of Wikipedia. They seem to miss a few facts that the Chinese Wikipedia coverage integrates the split off English articles like Eroguro. In any event... its a bit of a shock to me since the last 100 edits or so were mine and essentially created the page as you see it now. [8] Though the lengthy section History of hentai was my major work that got pushed into another article out of length. That's sort of embarrassing, but at least it wasn't scholarly, right? ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 13:59, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Comments are needed on this matter: Talk:Lolicon#All manga and anime lolicon is cartoon pornography? Flyer22 ( talk) 18:09, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
I've listed step mothers sin as being an example of incest in film. I would also like to list Private Psycho Lesson as being psychology in fiction. I'm sure plenty of other hentai would count as categories they are not listed as. CensoredScribe ( talk) 23:17, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej ( talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
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Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.
We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma ( talk) 04:23, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
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The Wikiproject has officially started, currently I am trying to get all the categories and the banner set up and working, assessments and such will follow, but this is really complicated for me. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 15:16, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
First link is 404. Here is the link to the archive. http://web.archive.org/web/20080803014128/www.bishojyogameaward.org/2008/ranking.asp Though this is helpful as well. [1] Though Neko magic had some interesting.. figure related postings. [2] [3] Not to many RS in english. Japanese coverage seems only real option. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 04:58, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Mass reverting of our tags for the Yaoi genre, including Yaoi itself was carried out by Juhachi and Kaze-kun. While I place the tags as they fell under the recursive Hentai category, I did not place all files under our scope. This leads me to two issues, the Wikiproject is not under WP:ANIME's control, we are our own project. And while the matter falls under WP:PROJGUIDE#OWN. Works like Cut (manga) are under the Yaoi category but is Heavenly Body under our scope? Japanese yaoi is not American yaoi, the same way that English use of hentai is not the Japanese use of hentai. I see one of two things. A categorization redefining to end the problem for good, or we take anything labeled Yaoi and Yuri publications due to the complexity in discussing whether or not these romances contain explicit content. Ones containing explicit content are shrink wrapped in plastic, but may not contain the 18+ sticker if it is not overly graphic. Though to be fair even such sites as the Comic book bin define Yaoi as: "Yaoi manga is a subset of boys’ love manga (BL) and features explicit depictions of sex between male characters." as on their Punch Up! review. [ [4] And while the wiki doesn't point to every single one, Blood Honey is explicit and Juhachi removed its tag. CBB's stance? Explicit, its on the cover. [5] ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 14:17, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
NOTE, At WT:WikiProject Anime and manga, there is an RFC concerning the fate of WP:WikiProject Hentai -- 65.94.76.126 ( talk) 07:25, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
At the moment the project banner image is of the text 変態 (hentai), but I don't think this is the best choice. In Japanese it means "pervert", and isn't used to refer to adult anime and manga. The word for adult manga is 成人向け漫画 (seijin muke manga) and the word for adult anime is アダルトアニメ (adaruto anime). I can see why you've gone with the kanji rather than with a more, ahem, graphical representation of the genre, but I still think there must be a better choice. Perhaps File:Wikipe tan wearing a bikini by Kasuga39.svg? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:47, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
As much as I love Wikipe-tan I have to sadly agree per above, seeing wikipe-tan is a mascot she can not be used in anything obscene. There have been a-lot of editors in the past that have tried to delete wikipe-tan from wikipedia because of this. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 16:42, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
I've gotten the article quality and importance table working, hurray. This table is more then just mere inspection, by clicking on any subsection you can see the the articles and how they stack up, Hentai's current score is 1511, but many 0 score articles exist and those need to be improved a lot. The score is quite a bit arbitrary, but for now we have a good basis for figuring out which ones need to be improved and which ones can hold off for a bit longer. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 14:51, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
I have not gotten the watchlist working for the project yet, I hope to do in the coming days. A major concern has been the tag issue. With Shotacon and Lolicon being removed from our list despite being major sub-genres of hentai. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 15:51, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Just noticed that while this group's title is "WikiProject Hentai" its scope includes ecchi as well. Considering the different meanings of the two words, wouldn't it be more appropriate to change the title to "WikiProject Hentai and ecchi"? Despite "Many ecchi works [being] described as hentai by English users", I don't think an encyclopedic group should do that as well. Xfansd ( talk) 05:15, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Juhachi's assessment as well. The obvious thing would be to redo the custom banner to include ecchi in the list, I used the default template and it automatically uses the singular hentai link. If we go change it to 'ero' works, I still see problems. I really intended this to be a taskforce of ANIME at the beginning, but we would lose our categorization, importance system, and the article watch system and complicate navigation and focus. Also, the talk page banner which allows these to be noted will also have to be removed further complicating two of the key points above. The content and works we cover are also not suitable for underage viewers, I like keeping them separated as much as possible. I want this to be considered a task force, but remain independent. WP:ANIME is going through a lot of conflict right now, the issues have scattered my attention enough that I haven't been able to work on aspects of these topics. If we include ecchi works in our title, a lot of works like Love Hina and Negima will get included despite not making the mark, To Love-ru pushes it further yes, but I see no resolution because of the definition differences held by editors. So what do you two want to do? ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 13:42, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks to Svick for adding us to the Cleanup listing project. I've gone through and found archive links for the dead links for the project. Hopefully, we will reduce these issues by 20% next month. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 15:04, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
In the signpost Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-05-27/In_the_media, there is an article which links to Kotaku, run by Gawker which is worth the read. [7] Titled "Wikipedia Writers Sure Know Their Hentai" it features the differences between the Chinese and English language coverage of Wikipedia. They seem to miss a few facts that the Chinese Wikipedia coverage integrates the split off English articles like Eroguro. In any event... its a bit of a shock to me since the last 100 edits or so were mine and essentially created the page as you see it now. [8] Though the lengthy section History of hentai was my major work that got pushed into another article out of length. That's sort of embarrassing, but at least it wasn't scholarly, right? ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 13:59, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Comments are needed on this matter: Talk:Lolicon#All manga and anime lolicon is cartoon pornography? Flyer22 ( talk) 18:09, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
I've listed step mothers sin as being an example of incest in film. I would also like to list Private Psycho Lesson as being psychology in fiction. I'm sure plenty of other hentai would count as categories they are not listed as. CensoredScribe ( talk) 23:17, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej ( talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Hello everyone!
You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!
Note: To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to Wikipedia:WikiProject X/Newsletter. Otherwise, this will be the last notification sent about WikiProject X.
Harej ( talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.
We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma ( talk) 04:23, 27 October 2019 (UTC)