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We list Burns and Allen duo but not George Burns, I am not very familiar with George Burns, I know who he was, I had not heard of Allen nor the Burns and Allen duo, before my time. Based in a biased way, purely on the quality of the articles and the number of languages the articles appear in, wikipedia users have put more work into George Burns. George alone is in 24 languages, the duo in 3. George also out lived his wife by more than 30 years so was around for longer, but the duo was also around for along time too. Again not too familiar here, but my instincts say George Burns in Burns and Allen out. Other views? Burns and Allen is also almost half written as an article about the radio and tv show, rather than the duo. Carlwev ( talk) 21:50, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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So, are we !voting to keep Kinski because he is German, or because his article is vital to this English speaking Wikipedia? GabeMc ( talk| contribs) 18:08, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
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The association football list needs to be cut, but there are many players of a similar level of distinction, so it's difficult to know who to suggest. -- Rsm77 ( talk) 00:42, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
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Clemente was a breakthrough athlete in a slightly different way in that he was one of the first international superstars in MLB. He was the first international player to 3,000 hits p b p 22:49, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
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If we are trying to trim biographies, and sports people has been suggested to go down 100 entries. Do Jockeys deserve to be in? I am not sure if a list of the most vital or important 2000 people ever should have 4 jockeys. We have so many sports with no people listed. Other than boxers there are no martial artists listed at all apart from Bruce Lee but he's listed in actors anyway. There are no snooker players like Steve Davis or Stephen Hendry, probably slightly more vital than jockeys? If we had an extra horse racing article I would list Grand National before 4 horse racing biographies, although I'm not suggesting to add it at this time. The Jockeys do not appear in many other languages either only 4 or 5 suggesting they are not of particular world wide notability or fame.
Oh and by the way one of the 4 "people" listed in horse racing one of them isn't a person at all it's actually a HORSE. Although that make sense I mean it's them that do the running not the jockey, which is also why I kind of personally think of Jockeys as not the greatest examples of athletes. There was discussion and action a long time ago to remove all famous horses from the list including Alexander the Great's horse Bucephalus potentially the most famous horse? I'm sure Secretariat was a great horse, but do we need him? also he not in this list either: List of leading Thoroughbred racehorses so is he the greatest horse ever? I post the 3 jockeys and one horse separately for voting below. Carlwev ( talk) 10:21, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
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I think the head of GM in the mid-20th century should be on this list. Feel free to peg this to a removal p b p 15:53, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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I think the head of the Central Pacific Railroad and the founder of Stanford University should be on this list. Feel free to peg this to a removal p b p 15:53, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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Already covered by History of the Americas
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Roman civil wars has a disambiguation feel. Crisis of the Roman Republic covers a big part of the period in Roman civil wars.
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It redirects to Iran, which is already on the list.
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It redirects to History of China, which is already on the list.
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It redirects to a list article, which is not vital
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Carthage is about the city, Ancient Carthage is about the historical empire.
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It redirects to List of historical states in Africa, which is a list that I don't think is vital.
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In theory we shouldn't have lists. If we start having lists, especially of geography it opens up a whole new area of articles that could flood in, list of sovereign states is one of the most viewed and in most languages articles, how about list of US states, list of longest rivers. I was trying to think if there was another article that represents the title closely, I didn't check extensively but all things I thought of like Pre-colonial Africa, Medieval Africa, and Ancient Africa all redirect to History of Africa. I think we should lose it, if anyone could find an appropriate vital article that covers pre-colonial Africa, I would consider a swap but I don't think there is, History of Africa seems to cover it. Carlwev ( talk) 16:53, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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Ottoman–Venetian Wars is a disambiguation page. Cretan War (1645–69) is one of the more famous Ottoman–Venetian Wars.
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History is still under quota, and this is a vital article.
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It's a disambiguation page. We already have Crimean War and Russo-Turkish War (1877–1878).
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The page is mainly a list of wars.
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Covered in Great Leap Forward.
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Covered by Cardinal direction. I doubt they can become anything more than stubs/start-class.
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My only thought is Iraqi Kurdistan, is still less vital than Kurdistan, but seems a level above Turkish an Iranian, it's a fairly independent autonomous region, a real political entity with 5 million people, where the other 2 are only unofficial regions, and Iraqi one is a much better article in many more languages, just stands out as being above the other 2. Carlwev ( talk) 19:53, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
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It redirects to Philippines, which is already on the list.
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The case for Jericho is more of a historical one, although not a megacity today, it was one of the first real cities, important centre for a long time. But can we put it in history, as it still populated today in the same place with the same name? Carlwev ( talk) 11:24, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
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We had discussion to add regions music, they all failed, if we start adding regional music there are several we should think about. Irish Folk music should not be the first and only one, also as we have Folk Music itself. Not the worst idea though, but what regions do we want and which do we not. Cuisine can be represented well by region, music better represented by genre and less by region. I don't hate the idea but needs more discussion and deciding which regions get in. Carlwev ( talk) 20:42, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Personal attacks are never civil, I don't want to clog up this talk page with arguments anymore I think they are off putting, I wrote some stuff, when I was grumpy, but saved it on my own talk page instead of here, can we not all just get along? If anyone wants to read my view it's here, User_talk:Carlwev#Vital_Articles if you don't then don't Carlwev ( talk) 18:29, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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Has someone opposed this but forgot to sign here I can't tell? Excellent choice, Commercial art is a terrible article, may even get deleted or merged into graphic design, we don't even have articles in existence for similar terms like "commercial music". Calligraphy, not as important as "painting" but more vital many articles about individual paintings and albums etc, much more vital than com. art. Important across Middle East and Asia. Carlwev ( talk) 14:48, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
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If we are having a large number of articles listed dedicated to film, over 100 actors, many directors, 40 movies and more, I think we should have movie theater. Wheat Fields? We already have Van Gogh's more well known Sunflowers here. The Wheat Fields does not appear in any other language Wiki which cannot be a good sign. In English Wheat Fields is a very long article, but if one thinks this gives it extra points it is flawed, looking at the article history it was created by and the vast majority of all content was written by one dedicated user. Well done for that, more patience than me, but I don't think it belongs in the vital articles though. Carlwev ( talk) 14:37, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
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Psycho is currently a disambiguation page. There are two choice for replacement.
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Most recognizable soda brand? I'd say it might be the most recognizable brand of any kind. If it's not it must be close. Not to mention the most expensive brand, and about 125 years old. More important than Amazon.com, Willie Mays, or I wanna hold you hand. Only my opinion of course. Although not rock solid article, not the worst. Not sure leaning to keep. Carlwev ( talk) 09:44, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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Yeah, unsure, not top but not bottom either. Much more obscure plants in biology. Article says it's 3rd most expensive spice, other plants and herbs should maybe go before this goes. Carlwev ( talk) 11:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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I am going to oppose the removal of hot dog, hamburger, bacon, and steak all for the same reasons: I think that they are more important than many of the topics in everyday sections. If we can have 100 articles on recent actors or athletes, we can have 100 articles on food p b p 22:16, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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Why can't we have prepared foods? p b p 22:16, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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It redirects to Tableware, which is already on the list.
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It redirects to Accent, which is a disambiguation page. Accent (sociolinguistics) is an actual page.
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There are other "Accent" articles, that why I started the vote. Otherwise I would have directly changed it. -- V3n0M93 ( talk) 21:27, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
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It redirects to Cue sports, which is already on the list.
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It's mainly a list of museums.
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It redirects to Military, which is already on the list.
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Do we have any other specific types of education or training? I would like more weapons, but Military education as distinct from just military, I don't think we really need it.
I don't see a reason for all of these articles. We already have Military rank, which can cover all of them.
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PbP, this section is called Weapons. If a knife used for eating is vital IYO, then shouldn't it be listed with cutlery, fork and spoon? GabeMc ( talk| contribs) 23:31, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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I'm not as opposed to removing this as cannon, but still want to keep it. Artillery is in the 1000 and so naturally it's not odd for it to be expanded upon in the 10'000. Artillery is such a wide term it can include ancient catapults and modern nuclear artillery, within a list as big as 10,000 I think we need more specific examples. I feel better having 5 examples of artillery used throughout human history, than having 8 figure skaters, 16 tennis players or 23 footballers 30 rock musicians or even dare I say 100+ writers from within the last 75 years. Carlwev ( talk) 11:42, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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We do have land mine already, there is not one article for explosive mine in general, I think land and naval mine is split into 2 articles in most if not all other languages also. I believe naval mine to be important weapon and factor of war, I believe it has had a larger impact on warfare and history. Carlwev ( talk) 18:07, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
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Another cross section swap, Decimals are important, this guy not as much. Biographies are bloated, maths not so much. Carlwev ( talk) 20:36, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
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I request that the keepers of the list (Carl and Purplebackpack) update the VA/E sublist totals as provided on the main VA/E introduction page and in Igrek's target numbers table above. I believe that it is very important to our process and our current focus that we maintain current running totals for each of the VA/E sublists, especially when we are discussing the addition of new topics. I believe that we are still well over 300 topics beyond the VA/E list's permitted total of 10,000 articles. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 06:01, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Update: Can we get the current total and sublist numbers in the two tables updated, please? Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 12:46, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
I suggest that instead of using level 4 headers for Discussion sections lets use a semi-colon. When you add a comment to a Discussion section set-off with headers it brings you back to the first Discussion on the page and since this page is already a bit much to handle this would help to improve the ease of !voting. GabeMc ( talk| contribs) 22:42, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
At first I didn't have a clue what you meant. But now see what you mean. will someone be bothered to change them all, or just wait for them to phase out. I only used the other method as everyone else was. I bet half the users won't even see this and do it the old way anyway. I would probably use this then so it stands out:
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I've changed the Discussion mark-up.-- V3n0M93 ( talk) 08:05, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
FWIW, if my math is correct, then it would seem that this list is only about 21 articles less than it was when I last counted several months ago. We are currently reducing the overall size of the list by less than 2 articles per week. At this rate we will achieve our goal of 10,000 entries in about 3 years.
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We list Burns and Allen duo but not George Burns, I am not very familiar with George Burns, I know who he was, I had not heard of Allen nor the Burns and Allen duo, before my time. Based in a biased way, purely on the quality of the articles and the number of languages the articles appear in, wikipedia users have put more work into George Burns. George alone is in 24 languages, the duo in 3. George also out lived his wife by more than 30 years so was around for longer, but the duo was also around for along time too. Again not too familiar here, but my instincts say George Burns in Burns and Allen out. Other views? Burns and Allen is also almost half written as an article about the radio and tv show, rather than the duo. Carlwev ( talk) 21:50, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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So, are we !voting to keep Kinski because he is German, or because his article is vital to this English speaking Wikipedia? GabeMc ( talk| contribs) 18:08, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
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The association football list needs to be cut, but there are many players of a similar level of distinction, so it's difficult to know who to suggest. -- Rsm77 ( talk) 00:42, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
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Clemente was a breakthrough athlete in a slightly different way in that he was one of the first international superstars in MLB. He was the first international player to 3,000 hits p b p 22:49, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
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If we are trying to trim biographies, and sports people has been suggested to go down 100 entries. Do Jockeys deserve to be in? I am not sure if a list of the most vital or important 2000 people ever should have 4 jockeys. We have so many sports with no people listed. Other than boxers there are no martial artists listed at all apart from Bruce Lee but he's listed in actors anyway. There are no snooker players like Steve Davis or Stephen Hendry, probably slightly more vital than jockeys? If we had an extra horse racing article I would list Grand National before 4 horse racing biographies, although I'm not suggesting to add it at this time. The Jockeys do not appear in many other languages either only 4 or 5 suggesting they are not of particular world wide notability or fame.
Oh and by the way one of the 4 "people" listed in horse racing one of them isn't a person at all it's actually a HORSE. Although that make sense I mean it's them that do the running not the jockey, which is also why I kind of personally think of Jockeys as not the greatest examples of athletes. There was discussion and action a long time ago to remove all famous horses from the list including Alexander the Great's horse Bucephalus potentially the most famous horse? I'm sure Secretariat was a great horse, but do we need him? also he not in this list either: List of leading Thoroughbred racehorses so is he the greatest horse ever? I post the 3 jockeys and one horse separately for voting below. Carlwev ( talk) 10:21, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
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I think the head of GM in the mid-20th century should be on this list. Feel free to peg this to a removal p b p 15:53, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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I think the head of the Central Pacific Railroad and the founder of Stanford University should be on this list. Feel free to peg this to a removal p b p 15:53, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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Already covered by History of the Americas
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Roman civil wars has a disambiguation feel. Crisis of the Roman Republic covers a big part of the period in Roman civil wars.
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It redirects to Iran, which is already on the list.
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It redirects to History of China, which is already on the list.
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It redirects to a list article, which is not vital
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Carthage is about the city, Ancient Carthage is about the historical empire.
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It redirects to List of historical states in Africa, which is a list that I don't think is vital.
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In theory we shouldn't have lists. If we start having lists, especially of geography it opens up a whole new area of articles that could flood in, list of sovereign states is one of the most viewed and in most languages articles, how about list of US states, list of longest rivers. I was trying to think if there was another article that represents the title closely, I didn't check extensively but all things I thought of like Pre-colonial Africa, Medieval Africa, and Ancient Africa all redirect to History of Africa. I think we should lose it, if anyone could find an appropriate vital article that covers pre-colonial Africa, I would consider a swap but I don't think there is, History of Africa seems to cover it. Carlwev ( talk) 16:53, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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Ottoman–Venetian Wars is a disambiguation page. Cretan War (1645–69) is one of the more famous Ottoman–Venetian Wars.
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History is still under quota, and this is a vital article.
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It's a disambiguation page. We already have Crimean War and Russo-Turkish War (1877–1878).
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The page is mainly a list of wars.
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Covered in Great Leap Forward.
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Covered by Cardinal direction. I doubt they can become anything more than stubs/start-class.
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My only thought is Iraqi Kurdistan, is still less vital than Kurdistan, but seems a level above Turkish an Iranian, it's a fairly independent autonomous region, a real political entity with 5 million people, where the other 2 are only unofficial regions, and Iraqi one is a much better article in many more languages, just stands out as being above the other 2. Carlwev ( talk) 19:53, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
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It redirects to Philippines, which is already on the list.
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The case for Jericho is more of a historical one, although not a megacity today, it was one of the first real cities, important centre for a long time. But can we put it in history, as it still populated today in the same place with the same name? Carlwev ( talk) 11:24, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
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We had discussion to add regions music, they all failed, if we start adding regional music there are several we should think about. Irish Folk music should not be the first and only one, also as we have Folk Music itself. Not the worst idea though, but what regions do we want and which do we not. Cuisine can be represented well by region, music better represented by genre and less by region. I don't hate the idea but needs more discussion and deciding which regions get in. Carlwev ( talk) 20:42, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Personal attacks are never civil, I don't want to clog up this talk page with arguments anymore I think they are off putting, I wrote some stuff, when I was grumpy, but saved it on my own talk page instead of here, can we not all just get along? If anyone wants to read my view it's here, User_talk:Carlwev#Vital_Articles if you don't then don't Carlwev ( talk) 18:29, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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Has someone opposed this but forgot to sign here I can't tell? Excellent choice, Commercial art is a terrible article, may even get deleted or merged into graphic design, we don't even have articles in existence for similar terms like "commercial music". Calligraphy, not as important as "painting" but more vital many articles about individual paintings and albums etc, much more vital than com. art. Important across Middle East and Asia. Carlwev ( talk) 14:48, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
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If we are having a large number of articles listed dedicated to film, over 100 actors, many directors, 40 movies and more, I think we should have movie theater. Wheat Fields? We already have Van Gogh's more well known Sunflowers here. The Wheat Fields does not appear in any other language Wiki which cannot be a good sign. In English Wheat Fields is a very long article, but if one thinks this gives it extra points it is flawed, looking at the article history it was created by and the vast majority of all content was written by one dedicated user. Well done for that, more patience than me, but I don't think it belongs in the vital articles though. Carlwev ( talk) 14:37, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
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Psycho is currently a disambiguation page. There are two choice for replacement.
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Most recognizable soda brand? I'd say it might be the most recognizable brand of any kind. If it's not it must be close. Not to mention the most expensive brand, and about 125 years old. More important than Amazon.com, Willie Mays, or I wanna hold you hand. Only my opinion of course. Although not rock solid article, not the worst. Not sure leaning to keep. Carlwev ( talk) 09:44, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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Yeah, unsure, not top but not bottom either. Much more obscure plants in biology. Article says it's 3rd most expensive spice, other plants and herbs should maybe go before this goes. Carlwev ( talk) 11:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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I am going to oppose the removal of hot dog, hamburger, bacon, and steak all for the same reasons: I think that they are more important than many of the topics in everyday sections. If we can have 100 articles on recent actors or athletes, we can have 100 articles on food p b p 22:16, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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Why can't we have prepared foods? p b p 22:16, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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It redirects to Tableware, which is already on the list.
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It redirects to Accent, which is a disambiguation page. Accent (sociolinguistics) is an actual page.
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There are other "Accent" articles, that why I started the vote. Otherwise I would have directly changed it. -- V3n0M93 ( talk) 21:27, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
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It's mainly a list of museums.
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Do we have any other specific types of education or training? I would like more weapons, but Military education as distinct from just military, I don't think we really need it.
I don't see a reason for all of these articles. We already have Military rank, which can cover all of them.
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PbP, this section is called Weapons. If a knife used for eating is vital IYO, then shouldn't it be listed with cutlery, fork and spoon? GabeMc ( talk| contribs) 23:31, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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I'm not as opposed to removing this as cannon, but still want to keep it. Artillery is in the 1000 and so naturally it's not odd for it to be expanded upon in the 10'000. Artillery is such a wide term it can include ancient catapults and modern nuclear artillery, within a list as big as 10,000 I think we need more specific examples. I feel better having 5 examples of artillery used throughout human history, than having 8 figure skaters, 16 tennis players or 23 footballers 30 rock musicians or even dare I say 100+ writers from within the last 75 years. Carlwev ( talk) 11:42, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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We do have land mine already, there is not one article for explosive mine in general, I think land and naval mine is split into 2 articles in most if not all other languages also. I believe naval mine to be important weapon and factor of war, I believe it has had a larger impact on warfare and history. Carlwev ( talk) 18:07, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
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Another cross section swap, Decimals are important, this guy not as much. Biographies are bloated, maths not so much. Carlwev ( talk) 20:36, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
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I request that the keepers of the list (Carl and Purplebackpack) update the VA/E sublist totals as provided on the main VA/E introduction page and in Igrek's target numbers table above. I believe that it is very important to our process and our current focus that we maintain current running totals for each of the VA/E sublists, especially when we are discussing the addition of new topics. I believe that we are still well over 300 topics beyond the VA/E list's permitted total of 10,000 articles. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 06:01, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Update: Can we get the current total and sublist numbers in the two tables updated, please? Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 12:46, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
I suggest that instead of using level 4 headers for Discussion sections lets use a semi-colon. When you add a comment to a Discussion section set-off with headers it brings you back to the first Discussion on the page and since this page is already a bit much to handle this would help to improve the ease of !voting. GabeMc ( talk| contribs) 22:42, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
At first I didn't have a clue what you meant. But now see what you mean. will someone be bothered to change them all, or just wait for them to phase out. I only used the other method as everyone else was. I bet half the users won't even see this and do it the old way anyway. I would probably use this then so it stands out:
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I've changed the Discussion mark-up.-- V3n0M93 ( talk) 08:05, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
FWIW, if my math is correct, then it would seem that this list is only about 21 articles less than it was when I last counted several months ago. We are currently reducing the overall size of the list by less than 2 articles per week. At this rate we will achieve our goal of 10,000 entries in about 3 years.
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