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Find video game sources: "CGM" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo I was speaking with some of the people earlier about the validity of this site. Some of the issues included staff, and being cited elsewhere. My editor Wayne Santos has worked in the industry for around 20 years at IGN, Game Axis, and The Examiner. Here you go for proof.
http://www.behance.net/Shoeless http://books.google.ca/books?id=DekDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=wayne+santos+game+axis&source=bl&ots=pDXvZwE00X&sig=zIrDjptLoTL6uXcGHdlPTdUFhug&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wVN2U97EMNGiyATUjILYBw&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=wayne%20santos%20game%20axis&f=false http://ca.ign.com/articles/2007/10/20/rock-band-ps3-hands-on http://www.cgmagonline.com/articles/editorials/microsoft-can-retake-north-america-now/
And another one of our writers write for a few different places deemed reputable by Wikipedia. http://www.joystiq.com/editor/brittany-vincent http://www.maximumpc.com/user/brittany_vincent http://www.cgmagonline.com/reviews/yaiba-ninja-gaiden-z-review/
Here's Phil Brown's Rotten Tomatoes link, he writes for us as well. He writes for The Globe and Mail. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/critic/philip-brown/ http://www.cgmagonline.com/reviews/godzilla-2014-review/
As for links to other publications citing us... http://jin115.com/archives/51976243.html http://jin115.com/archives/52012383.html vidaextra.com rpgwatch.com bluesnews.com railgun.newz.dk kicktraq.com http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Nintendo-moechte-keine-Homo-Ehe-im-Spiel-Tomodachi-Life-2186464.html http://bindingofisaac.com/post/82762252439/thats-not-a-knife
And we are partners with Maker. And we are part of Magazines Canada. https://www.magazinescanada.ca/consumer?id=507
I hope this is enough information for you guys to look over. If you need more let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cody Orme ( talk • contribs) 20:27, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
From my experience, I haven't seen any "user submissions" as for being cited by other publications I did provide links to four different websites. Also, I am not an editor there. So the comment saying more than one editor was spamming(which we weren't) is invalid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.239.188.84 ( talk) 01:59, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
So essentially, you asked for support that the magazine is legitimate. I provide it then you changed the guidelines half way through. Also, every website has a user submission section. Even IGN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.239.188.84 ( talk) 15:59, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Also, we don't have a user submission section. We also have a physical magazine that is available for distribution. You can find us on Magazines Canada https://www.magazinescanada.ca/consumer?id=507. So, that would suggest that we are reliable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.231.242 ( talk) 14:25, 20 May 2014 (UTC) We're also available on Pocketmags.com http://pocketmags.com/viewmagazine.aspx?titleid=404&title=CGMagazine. These are distributors that demand reliability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cody Orme ( talk • contribs) 14:27, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
I have for both. However, the fact that some opposers are giving reasons that are not correct is frustrating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cody Orme ( talk • contribs) 18:30, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
I understand that, however we did fix some errors that were glossed over regarding reviews of certain games. We weren't trying to promote CGM, we were adding to certain reviews. Some of which didn't even have anything to support any kind of reception. I understand your concern, and I apologize for all this. We'd love to send each of you a print copy of our magazine to show that we are a legitimate source. I appreciate all the effort you are doing to ensure only quality items are put onto Wikipedia to keep the gaming section reputable. CGM is the only videogame print news source in Canada, so we would like to provide a voice for this country. Thank you for the consideration and your time, we apologize for any kind of confusion we may have caused. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cody Orme ( talk • contribs) 13:44, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm about to do some DLC reviews and I'm trying to see what kind of coverage they have. Could you weigh in for a final verdict on this bunch? They're used on Metacritic but they don't have VGRS consensus. czar ♔ 21:38, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "Gamereactor Sweden" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo
Find video game sources: "Gamers' Temple" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo
Find video game sources: "GameShark" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo
Find video game sources: "Gaming Nexus" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo
Would appreciate some feedback on the Metacritic links above if anyone has a chance. Here are a two more with Steel Media, used in Metacritic for indie mobile video games. We've approved their Pocket Gamer, but I'd like opinions on where 148Apps and App Spy stand.
czar ♔ 18:20, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
I feel that these websites should be marked as situational and reliable respectively. Legends of Localization is a website written by a Japanese-to-English translator who works in the industry on translation - as such, he should be reliable for facts related to translation and localization. As for Polygon, while it has a few authors who I find to be rather trashy and harmful (Arthur Gies, Ben Kuchera), it appears to have a fair number of reliable authors. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 00:56, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Indie games are more often covered by indie websites rather than the more mainstream websites. At least not initially anyway.
I am working on the Elysian Shadows page and before I integrate the following references I wanted someone to endorse them. I think they are reliable.
http://nichegamer.net/2014/06/elysian-shadows-interview-building-the-next-generation-2d-rpg/ -- Cube b3 ( talk) 06:29, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
I was going through the platform specific references and I was surprised that www.sega-16.com was not there as a reference for Sega Genesis/MegaDrive?-- Cube b3 ( talk) 18:26, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "Altered Gamer" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo
At the very least, it's not a wiki like what IGN's guides have turned into. -- Lenin and McCarthy | ( Complain here) 20:50, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
All articles, reviews and guides are written by gamers like you. Topics are set up by game, genre and platform.[2]—not quite the editorial control that screams reliability. Prima has some decent online guides, depending on what you're looking for czar ♔ 22:16, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "Rev3Games" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo
Pretty certain on this one's reliability, but it hasn't been listed yet. Owned by Discovery Digital Networks. About page reveals qualified executive team. Up until April this year, Adam Sessler (of RS G4 and X-Play) featured in much of the site's video-based content. CR4ZE ( t • c) 10:58, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "Sega Saturn Magazine" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk I just added a sourced summary of the Sega Saturn Magazine review to the "Reception" section of Discworld (video game), and was reverted by User:Justin.Parallax, who said the review was not notable. So I went to check the list of sources in this article, and found that Sega Saturn Magazine is thus far not listed as either reliable of unreliable. So, I'm hereby proposing it be added to the list of reliable sources, under the "Platform-specific" subsection, natch. What else can I say... it's a professionally published, print magazine with a full editorial staff and ran for almost five years... frankly, I would have thought its reliability was obvious!-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 21:55, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay, since support seems to be unanimous, I'll go ahead and add it.-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 23:35, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
This is the official promotional website for all upcoming projects Ouya related. www.ouyacentral.tv
Please have a look.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 09:02, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
What would be involved in the possibility of vetting GlitterBerri and Yomuka! as reliable sources? I guess some other Japanese translators would have to check several of their works? Is there an issue with copyright on an unauthorized translation? Our citation templates don't seem to hardly accommodate translations, so I'm trying to do this: {{cite web | url=http://originaljapanese | language=Japanese | others=[http://yomuka.wordpress.com/englishversion Translation by Yomuka] ...
I have no experience with vetting RSes. Will these particular sites just be situational sources? Is there any video game translation site which is regarded as a RS? Thanks. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 01:46, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Doesn't look like a consensus has ever been settled on for GP. I saw in Archive 2 that Masem brought up the site but no one replied. In archive 8 [3] we had some replies but it seems to have faded out. -- ferret ( talk) 22:29, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
This is an indie game website. It is well designed and all. In addition to a well produced website. They have a strong following on Facebook over 11,000 followers. For more info: http://twodashstash.com/about/-- Cube b3 ( talk) 23:45, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Looking to write about a Flash game called Loved. Other articles from reliable sources that deal primarly about the game exist, so it should be notable even without the sites' articles in question ( [4] and [5]), but I think it would benefit from their inclusion if they're reliable. 23W 00:36, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Assuming I'd consider one of the listed as reliable sources unreliable due to shoddy fact checking as evident in demonstrable (and sometimes in addition obvious) factual errors, what would be generally considered a sufficient demonstration of that claim to take it off the list? Derboo ( talk) 11:26, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
This is the biggest Shenmue Website on the internet. It is endorsed by Sega. www.shenmuedojo.net
They have a small staff, and is certainly not for profit but they have done a great job in compiling all the knowledge on the Shenmue games and games that feature characters from Shenmue like Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing. They have also done good amount of research on there own such as conducting interviews with the cast and crew or hack the game and fun stuff like that.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 08:33, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Former president Simon Jeffery reached out to them to address fans now that is huge. How often do you see company reaching out to a fan site to reach their fans?-- Cube b3 ( talk) 06:28, 6 August 2014 (UTC) Sonic Stadium and Shenmue Dojo are the only 2 Sega game specific websites that the company has formally endorsed.
Find video game sources: "mental_floss" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo
A general trivia magazine/website that has assorted video game-related articles, such as How 13 Classic Video Games Got Their Names and The Largest Video Game Collection on Earth Sells for $750,000. The About page talks about the various sections of the magazine, mentioning repeatedly that it's full of facts, and the website is basically an extension of the magazine. Supernerd11 Firemind ^_^ Pokedex 19:29, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
I normally write about games that don't get as much press. Recently, I've been writing about Abyss Odyssey, and the developer went on a YouTube interview [6] and talked about the history of the game in a way that I haven't seen in any reliable sources with a heavy emphasis on the history of the development early on. Is there any way that I can cite Retro Requium's YouTube interview of the developer talking even though the website's "About us" page ( [7]) obviously shows that it's not an RS? Nomader ( talk) 05:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
These sources ( [8], [9]) must be removed/replaced site-wide as a reference point for sales numbers. They have proven to be a hit or miss and Blake doesn't state where he got those figures from. I'm sure User:Red Phoenix, User:SexyKick, and User:Indrian can elaborate. « Ryūkotsusei » 04:42, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Looks like a well produced website and does more then just post news. Apparently they organize competitions and covers apps in addition to games. This would be a platform specific website for Ouya as well.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 23:42, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
www.readretro.com https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/socalmike/retro-the-multi-format-throw-back-video-game-magaz
Magazine + Website. Every writer is a veteran journalist.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 06:31, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Each writers credentials and background is clearly listed on KS. Their website interface doesn't have anything to do with quality of writing. Just to do some research I googled the first writer on their list of writer. The KS page lists quite a few wbesites he wrote for. I googled him on IGN and 1up and it indeed checks out. Before passing judgement I recommend an Admin to read the KS page and then verify it via Google or simply buy the magazine and read it.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 07:27, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Greetings, friends. I am flummoxed by the fact that Twin Galaxies is absent from the list of reliable sources. I searched the forms above, and found no record of even a discussion about it. As the linked article says, they are basically like the Guinness Book of video games. Their primary purpose for existing is to set the standard of being a reliable source. After a hiatus, their web site is all back online and stuff. Can we get them listed? Thanks. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 07:21, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
What do you guys think? They have been doing great work and I feel like making a Wikipedia page for them.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 07:28, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
http://www.redbull.co.uk/cs/Satellite/en_UK/Article/Time-Team--Meet-the-Gamers-Keeping-Retro-Consoles-021243330672345 -- Cube b3 ( talk) 07:33, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
I think it's reliable but again, it's a massive general culture magazine; I'm not sure we need it on the video game sources list. That said there is a fair amount of retro stuff, it seems, so maybe it would be useful to point people there. bridies ( talk) 10:55, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Just wanna point out that Sonic: After the Sequel, a Featured Article that I did a Source Review on, uses RedBull citations. As well I believe its pretty notable and reliable. GamerPro64 00:23, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
I have been exploring the website as a whole and they are really taking things to the next level. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwN_o_fi7xE
This is not even from their gaming category, though it is categorized there as well. This is the ultimate original researched feature, it is truly exceptional I can't wait for the series to start! Japanese legends like Yuzo Koshiro really lack good sources in English and they are personally interviewing them in a feature that looks excellently produced. Let's Fast track this process. I don't think we should add RedBull Games, we should add RedBull altogether! This does not need to be further analyzed, I see no reason to question their reliability or notability. I have been following RedBull for years and anyone who has read their work they have experienced exceptional coverage of the gaming industry with original research often overlooked by gaming sites like IGN and Kotaku.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 02:08, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Hold up. Has anyone mentioned an editorial policy, track record of staff/contributors, citations by other outlets? Worth posting for posterity at the very least. I'm finding some Red Bull Games references to be to a game development arm of the company and not the editorial side. I do see it cited a few times [12] [13], etc. and Wordsworth appears to have been around for a while (IGN, etc.) This was only a brief search, though czar ♔ 13:31, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
This one has to be reliable. It is a dedicated Sega Website. They have recently interviewed members from Relic Entertainment.
They have also interviewed Sonic the Hedgehog co-creator Naoto Oshima:
In addition to designers they have also interviewed executives such as Al Nielson and Tom Kalinske
Additionally the editor in chief of the website is a professional journalist whose credits include Joystiq, ReadRetro (Print Magazine) and Airman Magazine.
I do feel this website should qualify.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 20:20, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
http://www.seganerds.com/editorial-policy/-- Cube b3 ( talk) 19:36, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
EuroGamer, Joystiq, Kotaku, Nintendo Life, Polygon and VG247 have all used SN as a reliable reference. Here are some examples:
Now the question is if already approved websites can us SN as a reliable secondary source, why can't Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cube b3 ( talk • contribs) 17:38, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
Please note that my writing on SN is not a job. It is just a hobby just like contributing to Wikipedia only difference is at SN I can post original content. All the work on the website is done with passion and integrity. I would not have volunteered to right on the site or make a case for it over here otherwise. I have been a Wikipedian since 2006 and have always been contributing on Sega related stuff anyways.
I can show you a lot more references or you could simply visit Joystiq or anyone of the aforementioned sites, and you will see they have a long history of using us as a reference. The reason why most of the news posts are relating to Pier Solar is because it is really hot news as of late and I did not look at the content I just wanted to show variation between publishers and simply found the quickest ones I could find.
Here are some more from Joystiq:
As for consensus, so far it is only you who has given me an X, so I can only try to sway you to a positive.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 00:26, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Hooowwzzaaat?-- Cube b3 ( talk) 23:34, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Let's look at it this way now. What is lacking in our editorial policy?-- Cube b3 ( talk) 05:29, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
I pledged for SegaNerds all the way back in June. I read the notability guide lines and saw the website had an exception track record. The EiC is an accredited journalist who has an excellent track record in the industry as well as beyond the industry. Czar did mention some concerns about the policy however they have been addressed months ago. It is September now.
Let's move things along as Wikipedia desperately needs a reliable Sega source. http://www.seganerds.com/editorial-policy/ -- Cube b3 ( talk) 02:24, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
After consensus forms for or against something on WP, the standard is to wait (usually six months to a year at a minimum for non-urgent content concerns) before bringing it up again. And if it is brought up again, there should be new evidence to justify rehashing the discussion. I suggest following this procedure before bringing up the site again czar ♔ 05:11, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi guys. I feel a little bad about this, because I don't know jack about this source and because it's been covered in these archives. But it was covered here 3.5 years ago by an apparently nonexistent user. Somehow. (?!) So I'm wondering if the issue bears reexamination. Specifically, I'm really wanting to be able to use this article. It is one of a kind in my research of the history of Nintendo's online strategies; it's very thorough, with lots of quotes. But was it made up? lol. Whether anyone wants to reevaluate the whole site as a source, or just this one article in the timeline of the source's history, that'd be great. Was this article written at a time when N-Sider was good or was there such a time or what? Thank you. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 04:29, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
It doesn't appear that we've discussed the reliability of The Mary Sue, which is currently being used in 66 articles across Wikipedia, including Zoe Quinn. While not specifically about gaming, it has a rather thorough gaming section and there is a lot of crossover. They have an About Us page with founder—apparently Nightline co-anchor and Abrams Media-owner Dan Abrams—and editor information. Their editors and contributors have been published in books and magazines, spoken at conventions, etc. They have Advertising and Jobs pages like I would expect to see from a media outlet, and a professional Comment Policy and User Agreement. And they have a physical address, which is always good for an online site. They've been mentioned by a school of journalism and USA Today, plus our custom Google search for "themarysue.com" gave me 930,000 results, obviously including some duplicates and unusable pages but it's clear that our reliable sources consider them reliable as well. Opinions? Woodroar ( talk) 04:27, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
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Archive 5 | ← | Archive 7 | Archive 8 | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | Archive 11 | → | Archive 15 |
Find video game sources: "CGM" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo I was speaking with some of the people earlier about the validity of this site. Some of the issues included staff, and being cited elsewhere. My editor Wayne Santos has worked in the industry for around 20 years at IGN, Game Axis, and The Examiner. Here you go for proof.
http://www.behance.net/Shoeless http://books.google.ca/books?id=DekDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=wayne+santos+game+axis&source=bl&ots=pDXvZwE00X&sig=zIrDjptLoTL6uXcGHdlPTdUFhug&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wVN2U97EMNGiyATUjILYBw&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=wayne%20santos%20game%20axis&f=false http://ca.ign.com/articles/2007/10/20/rock-band-ps3-hands-on http://www.cgmagonline.com/articles/editorials/microsoft-can-retake-north-america-now/
And another one of our writers write for a few different places deemed reputable by Wikipedia. http://www.joystiq.com/editor/brittany-vincent http://www.maximumpc.com/user/brittany_vincent http://www.cgmagonline.com/reviews/yaiba-ninja-gaiden-z-review/
Here's Phil Brown's Rotten Tomatoes link, he writes for us as well. He writes for The Globe and Mail. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/critic/philip-brown/ http://www.cgmagonline.com/reviews/godzilla-2014-review/
As for links to other publications citing us... http://jin115.com/archives/51976243.html http://jin115.com/archives/52012383.html vidaextra.com rpgwatch.com bluesnews.com railgun.newz.dk kicktraq.com http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Nintendo-moechte-keine-Homo-Ehe-im-Spiel-Tomodachi-Life-2186464.html http://bindingofisaac.com/post/82762252439/thats-not-a-knife
And we are partners with Maker. And we are part of Magazines Canada. https://www.magazinescanada.ca/consumer?id=507
I hope this is enough information for you guys to look over. If you need more let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cody Orme ( talk • contribs) 20:27, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
From my experience, I haven't seen any "user submissions" as for being cited by other publications I did provide links to four different websites. Also, I am not an editor there. So the comment saying more than one editor was spamming(which we weren't) is invalid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.239.188.84 ( talk) 01:59, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
So essentially, you asked for support that the magazine is legitimate. I provide it then you changed the guidelines half way through. Also, every website has a user submission section. Even IGN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.239.188.84 ( talk) 15:59, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Also, we don't have a user submission section. We also have a physical magazine that is available for distribution. You can find us on Magazines Canada https://www.magazinescanada.ca/consumer?id=507. So, that would suggest that we are reliable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.231.242 ( talk) 14:25, 20 May 2014 (UTC) We're also available on Pocketmags.com http://pocketmags.com/viewmagazine.aspx?titleid=404&title=CGMagazine. These are distributors that demand reliability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cody Orme ( talk • contribs) 14:27, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
I have for both. However, the fact that some opposers are giving reasons that are not correct is frustrating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cody Orme ( talk • contribs) 18:30, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
I understand that, however we did fix some errors that were glossed over regarding reviews of certain games. We weren't trying to promote CGM, we were adding to certain reviews. Some of which didn't even have anything to support any kind of reception. I understand your concern, and I apologize for all this. We'd love to send each of you a print copy of our magazine to show that we are a legitimate source. I appreciate all the effort you are doing to ensure only quality items are put onto Wikipedia to keep the gaming section reputable. CGM is the only videogame print news source in Canada, so we would like to provide a voice for this country. Thank you for the consideration and your time, we apologize for any kind of confusion we may have caused. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cody Orme ( talk • contribs) 13:44, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm about to do some DLC reviews and I'm trying to see what kind of coverage they have. Could you weigh in for a final verdict on this bunch? They're used on Metacritic but they don't have VGRS consensus. czar ♔ 21:38, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "Gamereactor Sweden" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo
Find video game sources: "Gamers' Temple" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo
Find video game sources: "GameShark" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo
Find video game sources: "Gaming Nexus" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo
Would appreciate some feedback on the Metacritic links above if anyone has a chance. Here are a two more with Steel Media, used in Metacritic for indie mobile video games. We've approved their Pocket Gamer, but I'd like opinions on where 148Apps and App Spy stand.
czar ♔ 18:20, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
I feel that these websites should be marked as situational and reliable respectively. Legends of Localization is a website written by a Japanese-to-English translator who works in the industry on translation - as such, he should be reliable for facts related to translation and localization. As for Polygon, while it has a few authors who I find to be rather trashy and harmful (Arthur Gies, Ben Kuchera), it appears to have a fair number of reliable authors. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 00:56, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Indie games are more often covered by indie websites rather than the more mainstream websites. At least not initially anyway.
I am working on the Elysian Shadows page and before I integrate the following references I wanted someone to endorse them. I think they are reliable.
http://nichegamer.net/2014/06/elysian-shadows-interview-building-the-next-generation-2d-rpg/ -- Cube b3 ( talk) 06:29, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
I was going through the platform specific references and I was surprised that www.sega-16.com was not there as a reference for Sega Genesis/MegaDrive?-- Cube b3 ( talk) 18:26, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "Altered Gamer" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo
At the very least, it's not a wiki like what IGN's guides have turned into. -- Lenin and McCarthy | ( Complain here) 20:50, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
All articles, reviews and guides are written by gamers like you. Topics are set up by game, genre and platform.[2]—not quite the editorial control that screams reliability. Prima has some decent online guides, depending on what you're looking for czar ♔ 22:16, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "Rev3Games" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk · LinkSearch · CrossWiki · LinkTo
Pretty certain on this one's reliability, but it hasn't been listed yet. Owned by Discovery Digital Networks. About page reveals qualified executive team. Up until April this year, Adam Sessler (of RS G4 and X-Play) featured in much of the site's video-based content. CR4ZE ( t • c) 10:58, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "Sega Saturn Magazine" – news · books · scholar · images – VGRS · WPVG Talk I just added a sourced summary of the Sega Saturn Magazine review to the "Reception" section of Discworld (video game), and was reverted by User:Justin.Parallax, who said the review was not notable. So I went to check the list of sources in this article, and found that Sega Saturn Magazine is thus far not listed as either reliable of unreliable. So, I'm hereby proposing it be added to the list of reliable sources, under the "Platform-specific" subsection, natch. What else can I say... it's a professionally published, print magazine with a full editorial staff and ran for almost five years... frankly, I would have thought its reliability was obvious!-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 21:55, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay, since support seems to be unanimous, I'll go ahead and add it.-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 23:35, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
This is the official promotional website for all upcoming projects Ouya related. www.ouyacentral.tv
Please have a look.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 09:02, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
What would be involved in the possibility of vetting GlitterBerri and Yomuka! as reliable sources? I guess some other Japanese translators would have to check several of their works? Is there an issue with copyright on an unauthorized translation? Our citation templates don't seem to hardly accommodate translations, so I'm trying to do this: {{cite web | url=http://originaljapanese | language=Japanese | others=[http://yomuka.wordpress.com/englishversion Translation by Yomuka] ...
I have no experience with vetting RSes. Will these particular sites just be situational sources? Is there any video game translation site which is regarded as a RS? Thanks. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 01:46, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Doesn't look like a consensus has ever been settled on for GP. I saw in Archive 2 that Masem brought up the site but no one replied. In archive 8 [3] we had some replies but it seems to have faded out. -- ferret ( talk) 22:29, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
This is an indie game website. It is well designed and all. In addition to a well produced website. They have a strong following on Facebook over 11,000 followers. For more info: http://twodashstash.com/about/-- Cube b3 ( talk) 23:45, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Looking to write about a Flash game called Loved. Other articles from reliable sources that deal primarly about the game exist, so it should be notable even without the sites' articles in question ( [4] and [5]), but I think it would benefit from their inclusion if they're reliable. 23W 00:36, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Assuming I'd consider one of the listed as reliable sources unreliable due to shoddy fact checking as evident in demonstrable (and sometimes in addition obvious) factual errors, what would be generally considered a sufficient demonstration of that claim to take it off the list? Derboo ( talk) 11:26, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
This is the biggest Shenmue Website on the internet. It is endorsed by Sega. www.shenmuedojo.net
They have a small staff, and is certainly not for profit but they have done a great job in compiling all the knowledge on the Shenmue games and games that feature characters from Shenmue like Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing. They have also done good amount of research on there own such as conducting interviews with the cast and crew or hack the game and fun stuff like that.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 08:33, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Former president Simon Jeffery reached out to them to address fans now that is huge. How often do you see company reaching out to a fan site to reach their fans?-- Cube b3 ( talk) 06:28, 6 August 2014 (UTC) Sonic Stadium and Shenmue Dojo are the only 2 Sega game specific websites that the company has formally endorsed.
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A general trivia magazine/website that has assorted video game-related articles, such as How 13 Classic Video Games Got Their Names and The Largest Video Game Collection on Earth Sells for $750,000. The About page talks about the various sections of the magazine, mentioning repeatedly that it's full of facts, and the website is basically an extension of the magazine. Supernerd11 Firemind ^_^ Pokedex 19:29, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
I normally write about games that don't get as much press. Recently, I've been writing about Abyss Odyssey, and the developer went on a YouTube interview [6] and talked about the history of the game in a way that I haven't seen in any reliable sources with a heavy emphasis on the history of the development early on. Is there any way that I can cite Retro Requium's YouTube interview of the developer talking even though the website's "About us" page ( [7]) obviously shows that it's not an RS? Nomader ( talk) 05:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
These sources ( [8], [9]) must be removed/replaced site-wide as a reference point for sales numbers. They have proven to be a hit or miss and Blake doesn't state where he got those figures from. I'm sure User:Red Phoenix, User:SexyKick, and User:Indrian can elaborate. « Ryūkotsusei » 04:42, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Looks like a well produced website and does more then just post news. Apparently they organize competitions and covers apps in addition to games. This would be a platform specific website for Ouya as well.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 23:42, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
www.readretro.com https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/socalmike/retro-the-multi-format-throw-back-video-game-magaz
Magazine + Website. Every writer is a veteran journalist.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 06:31, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Each writers credentials and background is clearly listed on KS. Their website interface doesn't have anything to do with quality of writing. Just to do some research I googled the first writer on their list of writer. The KS page lists quite a few wbesites he wrote for. I googled him on IGN and 1up and it indeed checks out. Before passing judgement I recommend an Admin to read the KS page and then verify it via Google or simply buy the magazine and read it.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 07:27, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Greetings, friends. I am flummoxed by the fact that Twin Galaxies is absent from the list of reliable sources. I searched the forms above, and found no record of even a discussion about it. As the linked article says, they are basically like the Guinness Book of video games. Their primary purpose for existing is to set the standard of being a reliable source. After a hiatus, their web site is all back online and stuff. Can we get them listed? Thanks. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 07:21, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
What do you guys think? They have been doing great work and I feel like making a Wikipedia page for them.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 07:28, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
http://www.redbull.co.uk/cs/Satellite/en_UK/Article/Time-Team--Meet-the-Gamers-Keeping-Retro-Consoles-021243330672345 -- Cube b3 ( talk) 07:33, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
I think it's reliable but again, it's a massive general culture magazine; I'm not sure we need it on the video game sources list. That said there is a fair amount of retro stuff, it seems, so maybe it would be useful to point people there. bridies ( talk) 10:55, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Just wanna point out that Sonic: After the Sequel, a Featured Article that I did a Source Review on, uses RedBull citations. As well I believe its pretty notable and reliable. GamerPro64 00:23, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
I have been exploring the website as a whole and they are really taking things to the next level. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwN_o_fi7xE
This is not even from their gaming category, though it is categorized there as well. This is the ultimate original researched feature, it is truly exceptional I can't wait for the series to start! Japanese legends like Yuzo Koshiro really lack good sources in English and they are personally interviewing them in a feature that looks excellently produced. Let's Fast track this process. I don't think we should add RedBull Games, we should add RedBull altogether! This does not need to be further analyzed, I see no reason to question their reliability or notability. I have been following RedBull for years and anyone who has read their work they have experienced exceptional coverage of the gaming industry with original research often overlooked by gaming sites like IGN and Kotaku.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 02:08, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Hold up. Has anyone mentioned an editorial policy, track record of staff/contributors, citations by other outlets? Worth posting for posterity at the very least. I'm finding some Red Bull Games references to be to a game development arm of the company and not the editorial side. I do see it cited a few times [12] [13], etc. and Wordsworth appears to have been around for a while (IGN, etc.) This was only a brief search, though czar ♔ 13:31, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
This one has to be reliable. It is a dedicated Sega Website. They have recently interviewed members from Relic Entertainment.
They have also interviewed Sonic the Hedgehog co-creator Naoto Oshima:
In addition to designers they have also interviewed executives such as Al Nielson and Tom Kalinske
Additionally the editor in chief of the website is a professional journalist whose credits include Joystiq, ReadRetro (Print Magazine) and Airman Magazine.
I do feel this website should qualify.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 20:20, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
http://www.seganerds.com/editorial-policy/-- Cube b3 ( talk) 19:36, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
EuroGamer, Joystiq, Kotaku, Nintendo Life, Polygon and VG247 have all used SN as a reliable reference. Here are some examples:
Now the question is if already approved websites can us SN as a reliable secondary source, why can't Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cube b3 ( talk • contribs) 17:38, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
Please note that my writing on SN is not a job. It is just a hobby just like contributing to Wikipedia only difference is at SN I can post original content. All the work on the website is done with passion and integrity. I would not have volunteered to right on the site or make a case for it over here otherwise. I have been a Wikipedian since 2006 and have always been contributing on Sega related stuff anyways.
I can show you a lot more references or you could simply visit Joystiq or anyone of the aforementioned sites, and you will see they have a long history of using us as a reference. The reason why most of the news posts are relating to Pier Solar is because it is really hot news as of late and I did not look at the content I just wanted to show variation between publishers and simply found the quickest ones I could find.
Here are some more from Joystiq:
As for consensus, so far it is only you who has given me an X, so I can only try to sway you to a positive.-- Cube b3 ( talk) 00:26, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Hooowwzzaaat?-- Cube b3 ( talk) 23:34, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Let's look at it this way now. What is lacking in our editorial policy?-- Cube b3 ( talk) 05:29, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
I pledged for SegaNerds all the way back in June. I read the notability guide lines and saw the website had an exception track record. The EiC is an accredited journalist who has an excellent track record in the industry as well as beyond the industry. Czar did mention some concerns about the policy however they have been addressed months ago. It is September now.
Let's move things along as Wikipedia desperately needs a reliable Sega source. http://www.seganerds.com/editorial-policy/ -- Cube b3 ( talk) 02:24, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
After consensus forms for or against something on WP, the standard is to wait (usually six months to a year at a minimum for non-urgent content concerns) before bringing it up again. And if it is brought up again, there should be new evidence to justify rehashing the discussion. I suggest following this procedure before bringing up the site again czar ♔ 05:11, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi guys. I feel a little bad about this, because I don't know jack about this source and because it's been covered in these archives. But it was covered here 3.5 years ago by an apparently nonexistent user. Somehow. (?!) So I'm wondering if the issue bears reexamination. Specifically, I'm really wanting to be able to use this article. It is one of a kind in my research of the history of Nintendo's online strategies; it's very thorough, with lots of quotes. But was it made up? lol. Whether anyone wants to reevaluate the whole site as a source, or just this one article in the timeline of the source's history, that'd be great. Was this article written at a time when N-Sider was good or was there such a time or what? Thank you. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 04:29, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
It doesn't appear that we've discussed the reliability of The Mary Sue, which is currently being used in 66 articles across Wikipedia, including Zoe Quinn. While not specifically about gaming, it has a rather thorough gaming section and there is a lot of crossover. They have an About Us page with founder—apparently Nightline co-anchor and Abrams Media-owner Dan Abrams—and editor information. Their editors and contributors have been published in books and magazines, spoken at conventions, etc. They have Advertising and Jobs pages like I would expect to see from a media outlet, and a professional Comment Policy and User Agreement. And they have a physical address, which is always good for an online site. They've been mentioned by a school of journalism and USA Today, plus our custom Google search for "themarysue.com" gave me 930,000 results, obviously including some duplicates and unusable pages but it's clear that our reliable sources consider them reliable as well. Opinions? Woodroar ( talk) 04:27, 27 August 2014 (UTC)