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There is currently an ongoing discussion about the future of this and others MoS naming style. Please consider the issues raised in the discussion and vote if you wish GnevinAWB ( talk) 21:01, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
I started cleaning the Wikipedia:Database reports/Long stubs and a bunch of the articles there are litte free text but lots of big tables articles, such as 2004–05 Florida Gators men's basketball team. I am not sure whether they are stubs (due to little free text) or not (due to their long and extensive tables). Thoughts? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Stub →
Wikipedia:Manual of Style (stub) — Consolidating naming per
Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#Poll
Gnevin (
talk)
16:22, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
A high proportion of stub templates have embedded wikilinks which are either ordinary dictionary words (e.g history in {{Asia-hist-stub}}), or very low value in themselves (e.g. Africa in {{Africa-bio-stub}}), or is a technical term that's almost certainly already linked in the article itself (e.g. {{Lycaenidae-stub}}). It seems to me that the vast majority of links in stub templates add no value, so I plan to set about unlinking them. Any comments? Colonies Chris ( talk) 09:22, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
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Under the heading "Basic information", the first sentence uses unnecessarily awkward English. For example, the double negative in the phrase "but not so short as to provide no useful information" would be more straight-forward if written as "but sufficient to include useful information."
Rwilkin (
talk)
03:05, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
After many years of thought on the subject of stubs, there are some questions I have, and I am wondering what opinions others have about stubs: Sebwite ( talk) 23:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
I am wondering what others think. Is it really necessary to label an article as a stub just because it is short? And what good does such a label do? Is it here to tell others it needs to be expanded? Is it here to say "don't delete me because I'm short?" Any other ideas? It is important to remember that Wikipedia is not finished and few if any articles are really ever complete, meaning that there is always room for expansion to an article, whether it be one line or a dozen headings each with several paragraphs. (Sebwite's original comment)
The {{ stub}} tag has been placed on a huge number of articles. Some have one or two sentences and that's all. Others are several paragraphs or even longer, and they still have a stub tag. Some articles have stub tags when their writers think there is potential for more expansion, even though all the information from all the existing sources has been included in them, and they are still relatively short.
Should there be an official standard defining what length is a stub, and after how much information there should not be a stub tag? If so, should it be a sentence? A paragraph? A screen-sized page? (Sebwite's original comment)
Wikipedia is full of numerous stubs that are indeed a sentence or two long. Some, in addition to that sentence, include an infobox and possibly a navbox, together with a lot of whitespace to the left of the infobox. Their existence is not challenged, and would probably win a challenge, because these subjects tyically belong in categories everyone accepts as inherently notable (e.g. populated places, politicians, professional athletes). Is it appropriate to leave these indefinitely as standalone pages marked as stubs? Or should they be merged into a single page listing all that basic information in a chart? (Sebwite's original comment)
This guideline currently says:
If an article overlaps several stub categories, more than one template may be used, but it is strongly recommended that only those relating to the subject's main notability be used. A limit of three or, if really necessary, four stub templates is advised.
4 stub templates on a single article? really? Yoenit ( talk) 10:36, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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There is currently an ongoing discussion about the future of this and others MoS naming style. Please consider the issues raised in the discussion and vote if you wish GnevinAWB ( talk) 21:01, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
I started cleaning the Wikipedia:Database reports/Long stubs and a bunch of the articles there are litte free text but lots of big tables articles, such as 2004–05 Florida Gators men's basketball team. I am not sure whether they are stubs (due to little free text) or not (due to their long and extensive tables). Thoughts? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Stub →
Wikipedia:Manual of Style (stub) — Consolidating naming per
Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#Poll
Gnevin (
talk)
16:22, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
A high proportion of stub templates have embedded wikilinks which are either ordinary dictionary words (e.g history in {{Asia-hist-stub}}), or very low value in themselves (e.g. Africa in {{Africa-bio-stub}}), or is a technical term that's almost certainly already linked in the article itself (e.g. {{Lycaenidae-stub}}). It seems to me that the vast majority of links in stub templates add no value, so I plan to set about unlinking them. Any comments? Colonies Chris ( talk) 09:22, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
{{
edit semi-protected}}
Under the heading "Basic information", the first sentence uses unnecessarily awkward English. For example, the double negative in the phrase "but not so short as to provide no useful information" would be more straight-forward if written as "but sufficient to include useful information."
Rwilkin (
talk)
03:05, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
After many years of thought on the subject of stubs, there are some questions I have, and I am wondering what opinions others have about stubs: Sebwite ( talk) 23:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
I am wondering what others think. Is it really necessary to label an article as a stub just because it is short? And what good does such a label do? Is it here to tell others it needs to be expanded? Is it here to say "don't delete me because I'm short?" Any other ideas? It is important to remember that Wikipedia is not finished and few if any articles are really ever complete, meaning that there is always room for expansion to an article, whether it be one line or a dozen headings each with several paragraphs. (Sebwite's original comment)
The {{ stub}} tag has been placed on a huge number of articles. Some have one or two sentences and that's all. Others are several paragraphs or even longer, and they still have a stub tag. Some articles have stub tags when their writers think there is potential for more expansion, even though all the information from all the existing sources has been included in them, and they are still relatively short.
Should there be an official standard defining what length is a stub, and after how much information there should not be a stub tag? If so, should it be a sentence? A paragraph? A screen-sized page? (Sebwite's original comment)
Wikipedia is full of numerous stubs that are indeed a sentence or two long. Some, in addition to that sentence, include an infobox and possibly a navbox, together with a lot of whitespace to the left of the infobox. Their existence is not challenged, and would probably win a challenge, because these subjects tyically belong in categories everyone accepts as inherently notable (e.g. populated places, politicians, professional athletes). Is it appropriate to leave these indefinitely as standalone pages marked as stubs? Or should they be merged into a single page listing all that basic information in a chart? (Sebwite's original comment)
This guideline currently says:
If an article overlaps several stub categories, more than one template may be used, but it is strongly recommended that only those relating to the subject's main notability be used. A limit of three or, if really necessary, four stub templates is advised.
4 stub templates on a single article? really? Yoenit ( talk) 10:36, 4 February 2011 (UTC)