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I've just found this place after numerous history mergers and blocked mergers found at WP:RM. In many cases the histories need to be merged but cannot because of the block compression. The solution I worked out there was to move the history (to me merged in) to foo/history and note it with {{ Pending merge}}. When the issue is resolved it can easily be merged into its parent. That template also adds the Category:Pending merge for easy location. violet/riga (t) 18:52, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It seems that there's a bit of a gap in our cut-and-paste repair system. Currently, there isn't any place for a non-admin to request a history merger. Consequently, I propose that this page be modified to look something like this. It creates a section at the top for non-admins to list merge requests, and retains the section for merges that can't go ahead due to the database problems. Comments? -- TenOfAllTrades ( talk/ contrib) 17:41, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
I have updated the instructions at WP:RM to mention this page. Noel (talk)
Y'all feel free to come up with a shorter/snappier name for this page, as well as a WP: shortcut for it. Noel (talk) 02:14, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
I like Wikipedia:Repair shop a lot (nice, BorgHunter). How about that? Snoutwood (talk) 15:20, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Since there's a criteria for speedy deletion (csd-g6) that can be used to fix cut and paste moves and a specific template {{ db-g6}} to be used on those pages, isn't this redundant? Same goes for Template:capmv and the related category Category:Cut-and-paste moves to be undone (that's currently listed in cfd at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 January 15). - Bobet 20:02, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
the instruction at WP:SPLICE is confusing. it says
article which has been moved: that means original location of article or new one? where must i place {{capmv| NAME OF PAGE THE ARTICLE WAS CUT FROM }}? on the talk page at new location? this is the original msg. on my talkpage by User:Pournami - I'm equally confused ;) -- Gurubrahma 07:42, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Template:Capmv has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Capmv. Thank you. - Bobet 21:21, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
how can cut and paste moves be recognized? are there still people who move articles by cut and paste? why do pages get moved by cut and paste? are there still help pages that need helping? what are the pages that get listed at splice? earlier capmoved pages or fresh ones? inspite of move function and help pages directing users to move the right way?-- Pournami 09:51, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
who can list pages at splice and why should they do so, and when? what should they do? - Pournami 09:53, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
i stumbled on splice while looking for help in fixing a move which i thought was wrongly done (and was unnecessary and unjustifiable to boot, but that's another matter altogether). what i saw was:
i was confused. it would have been better if only it had been instead:
the instruction should have been (1)clearly stating where the template is to be used or (2)at least pointing to where the user can see what the template does.
if capmv template is going to be deleted, and users instructed to use db-histmerge template instead, at the time of necessary rewriting of the page, just to keep in mind.
also, dont know if this is right place to ask, is everything ok with the move tool? does it work alright? - Pournami
So change the text, then :D. — FREAK OF NURxTURE ( TALK) 15:14, Feb. 6, 2006
template:capmv was deleted. what am I supposed to use now? 22:51, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Why do we have people do this? It'd be easier to read if they were added to the top. Can we change it to that, or is there something I'm missing? Snoutwood (talk) 14:55, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
It seems strange that this page is uncategorized. Does anyone know the proper category in which this page belongs to? -- S iva1979 Talk to me 20:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Do we really need an archive for this page? It seems to me that the move log and the deletion log would be everything that one would need to determine what had happened. If one wants to know who's contributing here, then this page's history'll do just fine... it just seems like another unneccesary step to me that could be removed. Any thoughts? (Oh, and by the way: I'd still love to see this called the repair shop: it's so much nicer and succinct-er — I used to have to search for ages trying to find this place.) Snoutwood (talk) 17:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Is Template:Pending merge needed at all? As far as I can see, it is no longer used. --- RockMFR 01:47, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I don't like {{ db-histmerge}}, as it's easier for me to just watch this page, which allows me to easily spot new entries. Additionally, that template cats items into the morass of CSD, which I don't think is the best place to put the more complicated issues like history merges, as I doubt that they get dealt with very well there. Does anyone else feel this way? My idea is to change db-histmerge to a page with instructions on how to list something here, and then change the instructions here and on WP:HISTMERGE and have this be the sole place for listing these issues, rather than having, as we do at the moment, here, CSD, and Category:History merge for speedy deletion (which is only two months old and which I didn't know about until I looking into the code of db-histmerge). What do people think? I'm aware that this need to be discussed in other places as well, but I wanted to get some opinions from here. Kyle Barbour 20:15, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Is there an easier name for this? It is a bit of a mouthful and at first glance hard to understand. Simply south 18:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
See Template talk:Db-histmerge#Proposed redesign. — Ilmari Karonen ( talk) 01:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I thought most complex history merges were requested at WP:AN/I, and I've been around for a while. I think that it would be a good idea to add links to the WP:AN / WP:AN/I header directed towards this page. Otherwise, I doubt many people will find it. -- Iamunknown 12:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Is there a template like Template:RMlink to standardize a request for a splice? 70.51.9.124 ( talk) 15:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
A splice repair was done at Mount Royal , Mount Royal, Montreal and Mount Royal (disambiguation), however the new title is not clearly the better one... all the incoming links to the new dab page location Mount Royal are for Mount Royal Montreal, while Mount Royal Montreal has no incoming links virtually. Shouldn't the histmerge have reverted the pagenames to what they were before the C&P? 76.66.198.171 ( talk) 20:50, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm posting here as this talk page seems to be more active than Wikipedia talk:How to fix cut-and-paste moves. Can cut-and-paste fixes be done independently by an admin, or they must be tagged first and then the subsequent processes follow? Jay ( talk) 10:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Would I be accurate in saying that this is project that is best suited to admins? I'd be interested in helping out here a bit from time to time, but as I understand the project page, it appears that most of the abilities that are required would only be available to administrators. How accurate am I in that understanding? (originally posted at WP:CUTPASTE talk) — Ched : ? 06:33, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Would one of you kind folks take a look at this thread please. I deleted the redirect, and moved the article from user space to article space: Devendra Prabhudesai. If there are any history issues I've missed, or I've done this improperly, could you please check my efforts and let me know. Thanks. — Ched : ? 20:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
If I edited an article at Wikipedia:WikiProject Pokémon/Charizard and then C+P'ed the info to Charizard, could you move the history from the Wikiproject into Charizard? Blake ( Talk· Edits) 00:44, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I reading now for quite some time trough the Wikipedia, but i could not find a solution yet.
I understand (I think) about the db-histmerge tag. When there was a cut & paste move it seems to be perfect. But what to do, when the could & paste move has not yet happened. OK, there is the plain move. But only, if the target is not yet there. In that case we can ask an admin to do so. But doesn#t the history of the target gets overridden by the source history?
The case I have (yes, I know now, bad style) is that there was that article (and still is) Superluminescent diode. This one has been copied (by cut&paste) to User:Lmmrs/Superluminescent diode - with an note in the original article. It has been completely rewritten and should now be moved back to Superluminescent diode merging the history of Superluminescent diode and User:Lmmrs/Superluminescent diode.
How this is done? Thanks for your kind help. -- lmmrs ( talk) 16:08, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Maad Dogg 97 ( talk · contribs) seems to be a repeated cut-and-paste-r, since I just posted several pages for repair just now, and several more pages that had quick reversions I did not post. There's atleast 10 of them in his history. -- 76.65.128.252 ( talk) 01:40, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Change made and reverted pending discussion at Wikipedia talk:How to fix cut-and-paste moves#New section: How to handle the left-over redirect. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 16:31, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 17:32, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen →
Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen – I count at least two compound adjective (cut-and-paste move, move-repair holding pen). This is an ugly title; why not find an entirely different description? Repair holding pen for cut-and-paste moves Requested cut-and-paste-move repairs comes to mind. Relisted.
BDD (
talk) 17:34, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Marcus Qwertyus (
talk)
10:03, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Discuss at Wikipedia talk:How to fix cut-and-paste moves#Proposed details= parameter for Template:Histmerge. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 19:15, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I found Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/list of horror films released in 2013., which has some text that could be merged to List of horror films of 2013 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Apart from my postponing of G13 deletion and adding a comment, they don't have parallel histories: the main-space article was started after the AfC draft was abandoned. The regular merging instructions don't seem to apply, because AfC drafts don't have an associated talk page, and are likely to eventually be deleted under G13. Should I ask for a history merge? — rybec 04:43, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Moved to EdJohnston's proposal, per consensus. bd2412 T 19:08, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen → Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair requests – ...or Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repairs or something similar. The current page name is too long, not to mention too difficult to find. Presumably, the page was originally named like this becuase there used to be a technical limitation due to which cut-and-paste-moves which could not be repaired. The situation has changed now. SD0001 ( talk) 10:56, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
As seen from Arhive 1, archiving for the page was started only in February 2008. It was noted in an earlier discussion that there is no archival value for the requests posted on this page before that, since only requests posted on this page were recorded. However, it is obvious that that holds true even now. Only a few, selected admins make a record of their histmerges on this page (Anthony Appleyard, Anne Delong, EdJohnston, and probably a few more). So, I have been pondering over the idea of resurrecting all the removed requests from the page history of Archive 1, to create an older archive. I think Archive 0 should be an appropriate name, as it is too big to be accommodated on Archive 1 itself. The present version is at User talk:103.6.156.167/sandbox. (I haven't completed it yet.) I am of the opinion that this archive has more archival value than any of the existing 21 because, with due respect to Anthony Appleyard's tireless work, they all look like userspace logs since 95% of the entries are by the same admin. 103.6.156.167 ( talk) 06:41, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Moved to Wikipedia:Requests for history merge#Queried requests. 103.6.156.167 ( talk) 06:43, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. ( non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 22:47, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests for history merge →
Wikipedia:Requested history merges – Sorry for bringing up another RM within less than a month of the earlier one being closed. But I feel that the existing page name is a bit too botched. The word "for" is unnecessary. Also, "history merges" rather than "history merge" sounds much better to the ears. This name was proposed by Anne Delong in the above RM discussion as well as by AmiDaniel in
an older discussion. It is easy to see from the above RM that a consensus existed for a change of name, but nobody seems to have paid much attention to the exact name proposed by EdJohnston. The new name is a parallel to
Wikipedia:Requested moves, which is more closely connected to this page than the ones using Requests for xxxx naming scheme, as well to a number of other pages like
Wikipedia:Requested templates and
Wikipedia:Requested articles. Also, almost all of the pages using that naming scheme would sound odd if changed Requested xxxx format, but this page is a clear exception. --Relisted.
George Ho (
talk) 07:35, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
103.6.156.167 (
talk)
19:04, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
The history of Haiǁom people was deleted, probably under the name Haiǁom dialect () or maybe ǂAkhoe dialect (). Could someone restore the edit history to Haiǁom people? The deleted articles could stay deleted, or they could be restored and then moved to Haiǁom people without a redirect.
Thanks, — kwami ( talk) 18:00, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Looking at the history of Young Pakistan Flag Movement, Taeyebaar did in fact do a cut-and-paste move from Younge Pakistan Flag Movement even though he thinks that he didn't and removed the notice from his talk page in Special:Diff/709912442. If not Taeyebaar, then who actually did the cut-and-paste move? GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 01:26, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
It has been suggested that the to-be-created Page mover group be granted the ability to perform history merges through Special:MergeHistory. Participate in the discussion at WT:Page_mover#Discussion:_Include_MergeHistory_tool. 103.6.159.86 ( talk) 10:43, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
I've started a discussion here regarding the creation of a new "history merger" user right, which may be of interest to those watching this page. Omni Flames let's talk about it 07:10, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
Hello Wikipedia Team
I created an article named Sober on Tuxedos (band) and it was deleted. The problem is that it still appears on facebook and I don't want that to happen.
If you please have a way to make it disappear from facebook, I would appreciate it.
Thank you in advance
Mad00lini ( talk) 05:40, 24 June 2016 (UTC) Mad00lini ( talk) 05:40, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi there! I have a lot of experience with page moves and other moves, but not history merges and figured I'd ask here. I just realized that a couple of the articles that I created in 2009 in my userspace, I moved with cut-and-paste merges instead of proper history merges. I've listed them all below:
Let me know if I should just tag the lists and thanks so much! Nomader ( talk) 14:38, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
I'm trying to merge Draft:17776 and 17776, and a history merge is probably needed, I suppose. However, there's yet to be a cut and paste job moving the contents of the draft to the mainspace, but generally, the merge would pretty much replace most of the information on the mainspace article with the draft. The histories don't overlap at all in terms of time. The draft's entire history comes before the mainspace's entire history, and the draft has only one author: myself. I'm not really sure what to do with the situation. Is there any advice about it? ~Cheers, Ten Ton Parasol 15:48, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Due to a copy and paste merge from Cheque clearing to Clearing house (finance) followed by an article move from Clearing house (finance) back to Cheque clearing, most of the edit history now in Cheque clearing belongs to the article Clearing house (finance) and the Cheque clearing article has lost its edit history. I believe this needs an administrator to resolve, but I am not sure how to specify the request. Would anyone be able to assist with this please? Whizz40 ( talk) 21:41, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi, it appears I screwed up when creating a page for Ron Stallworth, the retired police officer who infiltrated the KKK. There was already a page there for a football player who had played two seasons and for whom there was very little information available. I made a judgment call that the cop Ron Stallworth was way more notable, based on the volumes of material that have been written about him, and I "moved" the football player to Ron Stallworth (American football) - except I didn't really move him, it turns out, not properly, at least. I did what I now know is called a "cut-n-paste" - apparently that's a big no-no - and then I proceeded to create a new page for the cop from scratch. I don't know how to fix this. Please help! Thanks. Amsgearing ( talk) 01:09, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
I revised an article using my sandbox and need to carry out a History Merge. I first asked in the Teahouse, Wikipedia:Teahouse#History_merge_(Monomelic_amyotrophy). I am reposting here hopefully more clearly than I was in the Teahouse, with a short reference to this on your project page. I posted my intended cut & paste thievery in the Teahouse post. I should should have posted this here in the first place. I'm using a sort of a "gorilla in a china shop" approach, my version of being bold I s'pose.
I made a Peer Review request for completed a revision detailed below. But History Merge is my first issue.
I want to correctly transplant the revision from my sandbox. I read the Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Fixing cut-and-paste moves. BE BOLD does not apply -- I am being CAUTIOUS. Thank you for your help. GeeBee60 ( talk) 00:43, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
The page currently says For relatively simple cases where history merge is required, the destination page should be tagged with the {{
histmerge}} template. This page should be used for requesting very complex merges, merges involving more than two pages, history merges of deleted pages, or when the use of the template is otherwise inadequate or where its usage would cause problems.
However, in practice, it seems that simple two-page history merges are listed here as well; there are also plenty of requests tagged "(asked for by {{
histmerge}})" that could have started here. What is the expected practice?
power~enwiki (
π,
ν)
03:29, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
The documentation for {{
histmerge}} says in complex cases to "leave a description of the problem under the "List of cut-and-page moves to be redone properly" section" here. There's no such section; should that be "New requests" instead? It also describes {{
histmerge}} as 'this speedy delete tag'. In the case of
Project Harvest Moon there are two articles now and afterwards there should still be two, just with different histories. That makes me wonder if the template is the wrong way to request it (even with a |description=
).
WP:Requests for history merge only mentions the template as an option. What's the preferred way to go about this? ›
Mortee
talk
16:02, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I've created the article for a movie called Reversing Roe. However, another user had "created" it before as a redirect and now the article does not appear on my list of articles created. Is it possible to make it appear on my list of articles created? Regards.-- SirEdimon ( talk) 20:09, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Beginning by pinging editors I previously raised this concern with: @ Anthony Appleyard:, @ Deepfriedokra:, @ Bbb23:
It has caught my attention that there are various IPs making requests to have article histories merged or restored that are tethered to the blocked user User:Winterysteppe.
This IP and This IP made requests through September 2 and September 4 for the edit history merge/restoration of edits made by User:Hayholt, User:Artix Kreiger and User:TheGreenTower. Hayholt and Kreiger were confirmed conencted to Winterysteppe. TheGreenTower was not, but given their reason for being banned and the IP including their edit history with the other confirmed Winterysteppe's, I wouldn't consider it unfair to assume that they are affiliated. However, I also discovered this IP and this IP today that request edits merges/restorations for articles that restored edits made by GreenTower.
This IP and this IP made requests on September 10, 11 and 22 for the edit history merge/restoration of edits made by User:Faromics and user:Motizun, also confirmed socks of Winterysteppe. It's very clear to me it is more than a coincidence and the IP requests being made need to be examined to see if it's Winterysteppe having their sockpuppet account histories restored. Rusted AutoParts 04:52, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
I think some aspects of Draft:Najwa Zebian could be used to improve Najwa Zebian. If someone does this, it would be appropriate to acknowledge the earlier draft, but the draft would usually be subject to deletion, so the edit history might not be available in the future. Is history merging appropriate in this situation, or should I edit the newer article and just name the draft creator in the edit summary? Jack N. Stock ( talk) 02:47, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused about how to handle this, so I'll try to make it as clear as possible.
From what I can tell, it seems like the first (or only?) step to untangling this would be to merge everything prior to this diff into the history of Smile (Beach Boys album). Is this correct? -- ili ( talk) 14:15, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure if I should list this on the Project page; guessing not. Here's the situation: we're nearly done tidying up a draft page, and in a short while we intend to replace the article Roman diocese in a TNT operation with this draft. So we are not yet in a situation where a HISTMERGE is necessary, and we're trying to work out the best strategy now, ahead of time, to avoid complicated disentanglement procedures afterward. What would be most helpful, is if you could give feedback at the discussion at Talk:Roman diocese#HISTMERGE issue. (I previously listed this at WP:AN, and someone there said it would be better to come here with this.) Thanks in advance, Mathglot ( talk) 09:04, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
I recently came across the strange case of Music Is the Weapon and Lazerism. There looked to be a string of moves around 4 April of this year and then a clear cut-and-paste on 30 September. Page history shows that in April 2020, this revision of Lazerism is a copy-pasted version of this revision of Music Is the Weapon, so I think that's also a cut-and-paste. The September move is a basic cut-and-paste from Lazerism to Music is the Weapon per the edit summaries. I have next to no experience with histmerges and have no clue what the next step is. Any advice and/or recommended courses of action are appreciated. Thanks, Willsome429 ( say hey or see my edits!) 03:57, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
I am wondering as to the purpose of this page. For one admin, it's a place to put every histmerge performed, whether requested here or via {{ histmerge}}. For others, it's a place to request "odd" histmerges in (what I assume would be) instances where a {{ histmerge}} is insufficient to deal with the nuance (and/or they don't know that template exists). Personally, I think it should be used only for the latter; Special:Log/merge exists for the completed merges, and there's not really a need to write down the declined/removed {{ histmerge}} requests on articles because they will be in the article's history. Interested to hear other viewpoints about potentially changing the overall scope of the page (i.e. "archive of requests" or "place to request"). Primefac ( talk) 22:51, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I've been working on a rewrite of Étienne de Perier in the wake of an edit war. After running most of it through the talk page, I've created a temporary talk subpage, Talk:Étienne de Perier/Temp, to manage the rewrite of the most contested part of the article. (It seemed a better way to manage it than using the talk page itself as the participants in edit war would agree to working directly on the main article.) I figure once consensus text is agreed upon, I can cut and paste that into the main article (replacing the currently messed up sections) and can move the temp page into the talk page's archive, but should I seek a history merge so that attributions for edits made to develop the final consensus text are included in the article history? Or is it better to put a {{ Copied}} banner on the talk page pointing to the temp page or the archive? — Carter ( talk) 16:03, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
User:GiantSnowman history-merged Draft:Alejandro Balde to Alejandro Balde. But User:Primefac declined many same cases. Sawol ( talk) 13:49, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
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Archive 1 |
I've just found this place after numerous history mergers and blocked mergers found at WP:RM. In many cases the histories need to be merged but cannot because of the block compression. The solution I worked out there was to move the history (to me merged in) to foo/history and note it with {{ Pending merge}}. When the issue is resolved it can easily be merged into its parent. That template also adds the Category:Pending merge for easy location. violet/riga (t) 18:52, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It seems that there's a bit of a gap in our cut-and-paste repair system. Currently, there isn't any place for a non-admin to request a history merger. Consequently, I propose that this page be modified to look something like this. It creates a section at the top for non-admins to list merge requests, and retains the section for merges that can't go ahead due to the database problems. Comments? -- TenOfAllTrades ( talk/ contrib) 17:41, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
I have updated the instructions at WP:RM to mention this page. Noel (talk)
Y'all feel free to come up with a shorter/snappier name for this page, as well as a WP: shortcut for it. Noel (talk) 02:14, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
I like Wikipedia:Repair shop a lot (nice, BorgHunter). How about that? Snoutwood (talk) 15:20, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Since there's a criteria for speedy deletion (csd-g6) that can be used to fix cut and paste moves and a specific template {{ db-g6}} to be used on those pages, isn't this redundant? Same goes for Template:capmv and the related category Category:Cut-and-paste moves to be undone (that's currently listed in cfd at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 January 15). - Bobet 20:02, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
the instruction at WP:SPLICE is confusing. it says
article which has been moved: that means original location of article or new one? where must i place {{capmv| NAME OF PAGE THE ARTICLE WAS CUT FROM }}? on the talk page at new location? this is the original msg. on my talkpage by User:Pournami - I'm equally confused ;) -- Gurubrahma 07:42, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Template:Capmv has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Capmv. Thank you. - Bobet 21:21, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
how can cut and paste moves be recognized? are there still people who move articles by cut and paste? why do pages get moved by cut and paste? are there still help pages that need helping? what are the pages that get listed at splice? earlier capmoved pages or fresh ones? inspite of move function and help pages directing users to move the right way?-- Pournami 09:51, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
who can list pages at splice and why should they do so, and when? what should they do? - Pournami 09:53, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
i stumbled on splice while looking for help in fixing a move which i thought was wrongly done (and was unnecessary and unjustifiable to boot, but that's another matter altogether). what i saw was:
i was confused. it would have been better if only it had been instead:
the instruction should have been (1)clearly stating where the template is to be used or (2)at least pointing to where the user can see what the template does.
if capmv template is going to be deleted, and users instructed to use db-histmerge template instead, at the time of necessary rewriting of the page, just to keep in mind.
also, dont know if this is right place to ask, is everything ok with the move tool? does it work alright? - Pournami
So change the text, then :D. — FREAK OF NURxTURE ( TALK) 15:14, Feb. 6, 2006
template:capmv was deleted. what am I supposed to use now? 22:51, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Why do we have people do this? It'd be easier to read if they were added to the top. Can we change it to that, or is there something I'm missing? Snoutwood (talk) 14:55, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
It seems strange that this page is uncategorized. Does anyone know the proper category in which this page belongs to? -- S iva1979 Talk to me 20:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Do we really need an archive for this page? It seems to me that the move log and the deletion log would be everything that one would need to determine what had happened. If one wants to know who's contributing here, then this page's history'll do just fine... it just seems like another unneccesary step to me that could be removed. Any thoughts? (Oh, and by the way: I'd still love to see this called the repair shop: it's so much nicer and succinct-er — I used to have to search for ages trying to find this place.) Snoutwood (talk) 17:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Is Template:Pending merge needed at all? As far as I can see, it is no longer used. --- RockMFR 01:47, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I don't like {{ db-histmerge}}, as it's easier for me to just watch this page, which allows me to easily spot new entries. Additionally, that template cats items into the morass of CSD, which I don't think is the best place to put the more complicated issues like history merges, as I doubt that they get dealt with very well there. Does anyone else feel this way? My idea is to change db-histmerge to a page with instructions on how to list something here, and then change the instructions here and on WP:HISTMERGE and have this be the sole place for listing these issues, rather than having, as we do at the moment, here, CSD, and Category:History merge for speedy deletion (which is only two months old and which I didn't know about until I looking into the code of db-histmerge). What do people think? I'm aware that this need to be discussed in other places as well, but I wanted to get some opinions from here. Kyle Barbour 20:15, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Is there an easier name for this? It is a bit of a mouthful and at first glance hard to understand. Simply south 18:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
See Template talk:Db-histmerge#Proposed redesign. — Ilmari Karonen ( talk) 01:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I thought most complex history merges were requested at WP:AN/I, and I've been around for a while. I think that it would be a good idea to add links to the WP:AN / WP:AN/I header directed towards this page. Otherwise, I doubt many people will find it. -- Iamunknown 12:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Is there a template like Template:RMlink to standardize a request for a splice? 70.51.9.124 ( talk) 15:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
A splice repair was done at Mount Royal , Mount Royal, Montreal and Mount Royal (disambiguation), however the new title is not clearly the better one... all the incoming links to the new dab page location Mount Royal are for Mount Royal Montreal, while Mount Royal Montreal has no incoming links virtually. Shouldn't the histmerge have reverted the pagenames to what they were before the C&P? 76.66.198.171 ( talk) 20:50, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm posting here as this talk page seems to be more active than Wikipedia talk:How to fix cut-and-paste moves. Can cut-and-paste fixes be done independently by an admin, or they must be tagged first and then the subsequent processes follow? Jay ( talk) 10:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Would I be accurate in saying that this is project that is best suited to admins? I'd be interested in helping out here a bit from time to time, but as I understand the project page, it appears that most of the abilities that are required would only be available to administrators. How accurate am I in that understanding? (originally posted at WP:CUTPASTE talk) — Ched : ? 06:33, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Would one of you kind folks take a look at this thread please. I deleted the redirect, and moved the article from user space to article space: Devendra Prabhudesai. If there are any history issues I've missed, or I've done this improperly, could you please check my efforts and let me know. Thanks. — Ched : ? 20:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
If I edited an article at Wikipedia:WikiProject Pokémon/Charizard and then C+P'ed the info to Charizard, could you move the history from the Wikiproject into Charizard? Blake ( Talk· Edits) 00:44, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I reading now for quite some time trough the Wikipedia, but i could not find a solution yet.
I understand (I think) about the db-histmerge tag. When there was a cut & paste move it seems to be perfect. But what to do, when the could & paste move has not yet happened. OK, there is the plain move. But only, if the target is not yet there. In that case we can ask an admin to do so. But doesn#t the history of the target gets overridden by the source history?
The case I have (yes, I know now, bad style) is that there was that article (and still is) Superluminescent diode. This one has been copied (by cut&paste) to User:Lmmrs/Superluminescent diode - with an note in the original article. It has been completely rewritten and should now be moved back to Superluminescent diode merging the history of Superluminescent diode and User:Lmmrs/Superluminescent diode.
How this is done? Thanks for your kind help. -- lmmrs ( talk) 16:08, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Maad Dogg 97 ( talk · contribs) seems to be a repeated cut-and-paste-r, since I just posted several pages for repair just now, and several more pages that had quick reversions I did not post. There's atleast 10 of them in his history. -- 76.65.128.252 ( talk) 01:40, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Change made and reverted pending discussion at Wikipedia talk:How to fix cut-and-paste moves#New section: How to handle the left-over redirect. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 16:31, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 17:32, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen →
Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen – I count at least two compound adjective (cut-and-paste move, move-repair holding pen). This is an ugly title; why not find an entirely different description? Repair holding pen for cut-and-paste moves Requested cut-and-paste-move repairs comes to mind. Relisted.
BDD (
talk) 17:34, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Marcus Qwertyus (
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10:03, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Discuss at Wikipedia talk:How to fix cut-and-paste moves#Proposed details= parameter for Template:Histmerge. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 19:15, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I found Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/list of horror films released in 2013., which has some text that could be merged to List of horror films of 2013 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Apart from my postponing of G13 deletion and adding a comment, they don't have parallel histories: the main-space article was started after the AfC draft was abandoned. The regular merging instructions don't seem to apply, because AfC drafts don't have an associated talk page, and are likely to eventually be deleted under G13. Should I ask for a history merge? — rybec 04:43, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Moved to EdJohnston's proposal, per consensus. bd2412 T 19:08, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen → Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair requests – ...or Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repairs or something similar. The current page name is too long, not to mention too difficult to find. Presumably, the page was originally named like this becuase there used to be a technical limitation due to which cut-and-paste-moves which could not be repaired. The situation has changed now. SD0001 ( talk) 10:56, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
As seen from Arhive 1, archiving for the page was started only in February 2008. It was noted in an earlier discussion that there is no archival value for the requests posted on this page before that, since only requests posted on this page were recorded. However, it is obvious that that holds true even now. Only a few, selected admins make a record of their histmerges on this page (Anthony Appleyard, Anne Delong, EdJohnston, and probably a few more). So, I have been pondering over the idea of resurrecting all the removed requests from the page history of Archive 1, to create an older archive. I think Archive 0 should be an appropriate name, as it is too big to be accommodated on Archive 1 itself. The present version is at User talk:103.6.156.167/sandbox. (I haven't completed it yet.) I am of the opinion that this archive has more archival value than any of the existing 21 because, with due respect to Anthony Appleyard's tireless work, they all look like userspace logs since 95% of the entries are by the same admin. 103.6.156.167 ( talk) 06:41, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Moved to Wikipedia:Requests for history merge#Queried requests. 103.6.156.167 ( talk) 06:43, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. ( non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 22:47, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests for history merge →
Wikipedia:Requested history merges – Sorry for bringing up another RM within less than a month of the earlier one being closed. But I feel that the existing page name is a bit too botched. The word "for" is unnecessary. Also, "history merges" rather than "history merge" sounds much better to the ears. This name was proposed by Anne Delong in the above RM discussion as well as by AmiDaniel in
an older discussion. It is easy to see from the above RM that a consensus existed for a change of name, but nobody seems to have paid much attention to the exact name proposed by EdJohnston. The new name is a parallel to
Wikipedia:Requested moves, which is more closely connected to this page than the ones using Requests for xxxx naming scheme, as well to a number of other pages like
Wikipedia:Requested templates and
Wikipedia:Requested articles. Also, almost all of the pages using that naming scheme would sound odd if changed Requested xxxx format, but this page is a clear exception. --Relisted.
George Ho (
talk) 07:35, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
103.6.156.167 (
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19:04, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
The history of Haiǁom people was deleted, probably under the name Haiǁom dialect () or maybe ǂAkhoe dialect (). Could someone restore the edit history to Haiǁom people? The deleted articles could stay deleted, or they could be restored and then moved to Haiǁom people without a redirect.
Thanks, — kwami ( talk) 18:00, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Looking at the history of Young Pakistan Flag Movement, Taeyebaar did in fact do a cut-and-paste move from Younge Pakistan Flag Movement even though he thinks that he didn't and removed the notice from his talk page in Special:Diff/709912442. If not Taeyebaar, then who actually did the cut-and-paste move? GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 01:26, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
It has been suggested that the to-be-created Page mover group be granted the ability to perform history merges through Special:MergeHistory. Participate in the discussion at WT:Page_mover#Discussion:_Include_MergeHistory_tool. 103.6.159.86 ( talk) 10:43, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
I've started a discussion here regarding the creation of a new "history merger" user right, which may be of interest to those watching this page. Omni Flames let's talk about it 07:10, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
Hello Wikipedia Team
I created an article named Sober on Tuxedos (band) and it was deleted. The problem is that it still appears on facebook and I don't want that to happen.
If you please have a way to make it disappear from facebook, I would appreciate it.
Thank you in advance
Mad00lini ( talk) 05:40, 24 June 2016 (UTC) Mad00lini ( talk) 05:40, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi there! I have a lot of experience with page moves and other moves, but not history merges and figured I'd ask here. I just realized that a couple of the articles that I created in 2009 in my userspace, I moved with cut-and-paste merges instead of proper history merges. I've listed them all below:
Let me know if I should just tag the lists and thanks so much! Nomader ( talk) 14:38, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
I'm trying to merge Draft:17776 and 17776, and a history merge is probably needed, I suppose. However, there's yet to be a cut and paste job moving the contents of the draft to the mainspace, but generally, the merge would pretty much replace most of the information on the mainspace article with the draft. The histories don't overlap at all in terms of time. The draft's entire history comes before the mainspace's entire history, and the draft has only one author: myself. I'm not really sure what to do with the situation. Is there any advice about it? ~Cheers, Ten Ton Parasol 15:48, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Due to a copy and paste merge from Cheque clearing to Clearing house (finance) followed by an article move from Clearing house (finance) back to Cheque clearing, most of the edit history now in Cheque clearing belongs to the article Clearing house (finance) and the Cheque clearing article has lost its edit history. I believe this needs an administrator to resolve, but I am not sure how to specify the request. Would anyone be able to assist with this please? Whizz40 ( talk) 21:41, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi, it appears I screwed up when creating a page for Ron Stallworth, the retired police officer who infiltrated the KKK. There was already a page there for a football player who had played two seasons and for whom there was very little information available. I made a judgment call that the cop Ron Stallworth was way more notable, based on the volumes of material that have been written about him, and I "moved" the football player to Ron Stallworth (American football) - except I didn't really move him, it turns out, not properly, at least. I did what I now know is called a "cut-n-paste" - apparently that's a big no-no - and then I proceeded to create a new page for the cop from scratch. I don't know how to fix this. Please help! Thanks. Amsgearing ( talk) 01:09, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
I revised an article using my sandbox and need to carry out a History Merge. I first asked in the Teahouse, Wikipedia:Teahouse#History_merge_(Monomelic_amyotrophy). I am reposting here hopefully more clearly than I was in the Teahouse, with a short reference to this on your project page. I posted my intended cut & paste thievery in the Teahouse post. I should should have posted this here in the first place. I'm using a sort of a "gorilla in a china shop" approach, my version of being bold I s'pose.
I made a Peer Review request for completed a revision detailed below. But History Merge is my first issue.
I want to correctly transplant the revision from my sandbox. I read the Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Fixing cut-and-paste moves. BE BOLD does not apply -- I am being CAUTIOUS. Thank you for your help. GeeBee60 ( talk) 00:43, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
The page currently says For relatively simple cases where history merge is required, the destination page should be tagged with the {{
histmerge}} template. This page should be used for requesting very complex merges, merges involving more than two pages, history merges of deleted pages, or when the use of the template is otherwise inadequate or where its usage would cause problems.
However, in practice, it seems that simple two-page history merges are listed here as well; there are also plenty of requests tagged "(asked for by {{
histmerge}})" that could have started here. What is the expected practice?
power~enwiki (
π,
ν)
03:29, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
The documentation for {{
histmerge}} says in complex cases to "leave a description of the problem under the "List of cut-and-page moves to be redone properly" section" here. There's no such section; should that be "New requests" instead? It also describes {{
histmerge}} as 'this speedy delete tag'. In the case of
Project Harvest Moon there are two articles now and afterwards there should still be two, just with different histories. That makes me wonder if the template is the wrong way to request it (even with a |description=
).
WP:Requests for history merge only mentions the template as an option. What's the preferred way to go about this? ›
Mortee
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16:02, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I've created the article for a movie called Reversing Roe. However, another user had "created" it before as a redirect and now the article does not appear on my list of articles created. Is it possible to make it appear on my list of articles created? Regards.-- SirEdimon ( talk) 20:09, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Beginning by pinging editors I previously raised this concern with: @ Anthony Appleyard:, @ Deepfriedokra:, @ Bbb23:
It has caught my attention that there are various IPs making requests to have article histories merged or restored that are tethered to the blocked user User:Winterysteppe.
This IP and This IP made requests through September 2 and September 4 for the edit history merge/restoration of edits made by User:Hayholt, User:Artix Kreiger and User:TheGreenTower. Hayholt and Kreiger were confirmed conencted to Winterysteppe. TheGreenTower was not, but given their reason for being banned and the IP including their edit history with the other confirmed Winterysteppe's, I wouldn't consider it unfair to assume that they are affiliated. However, I also discovered this IP and this IP today that request edits merges/restorations for articles that restored edits made by GreenTower.
This IP and this IP made requests on September 10, 11 and 22 for the edit history merge/restoration of edits made by User:Faromics and user:Motizun, also confirmed socks of Winterysteppe. It's very clear to me it is more than a coincidence and the IP requests being made need to be examined to see if it's Winterysteppe having their sockpuppet account histories restored. Rusted AutoParts 04:52, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
I think some aspects of Draft:Najwa Zebian could be used to improve Najwa Zebian. If someone does this, it would be appropriate to acknowledge the earlier draft, but the draft would usually be subject to deletion, so the edit history might not be available in the future. Is history merging appropriate in this situation, or should I edit the newer article and just name the draft creator in the edit summary? Jack N. Stock ( talk) 02:47, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused about how to handle this, so I'll try to make it as clear as possible.
From what I can tell, it seems like the first (or only?) step to untangling this would be to merge everything prior to this diff into the history of Smile (Beach Boys album). Is this correct? -- ili ( talk) 14:15, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure if I should list this on the Project page; guessing not. Here's the situation: we're nearly done tidying up a draft page, and in a short while we intend to replace the article Roman diocese in a TNT operation with this draft. So we are not yet in a situation where a HISTMERGE is necessary, and we're trying to work out the best strategy now, ahead of time, to avoid complicated disentanglement procedures afterward. What would be most helpful, is if you could give feedback at the discussion at Talk:Roman diocese#HISTMERGE issue. (I previously listed this at WP:AN, and someone there said it would be better to come here with this.) Thanks in advance, Mathglot ( talk) 09:04, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
I recently came across the strange case of Music Is the Weapon and Lazerism. There looked to be a string of moves around 4 April of this year and then a clear cut-and-paste on 30 September. Page history shows that in April 2020, this revision of Lazerism is a copy-pasted version of this revision of Music Is the Weapon, so I think that's also a cut-and-paste. The September move is a basic cut-and-paste from Lazerism to Music is the Weapon per the edit summaries. I have next to no experience with histmerges and have no clue what the next step is. Any advice and/or recommended courses of action are appreciated. Thanks, Willsome429 ( say hey or see my edits!) 03:57, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
I am wondering as to the purpose of this page. For one admin, it's a place to put every histmerge performed, whether requested here or via {{ histmerge}}. For others, it's a place to request "odd" histmerges in (what I assume would be) instances where a {{ histmerge}} is insufficient to deal with the nuance (and/or they don't know that template exists). Personally, I think it should be used only for the latter; Special:Log/merge exists for the completed merges, and there's not really a need to write down the declined/removed {{ histmerge}} requests on articles because they will be in the article's history. Interested to hear other viewpoints about potentially changing the overall scope of the page (i.e. "archive of requests" or "place to request"). Primefac ( talk) 22:51, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I've been working on a rewrite of Étienne de Perier in the wake of an edit war. After running most of it through the talk page, I've created a temporary talk subpage, Talk:Étienne de Perier/Temp, to manage the rewrite of the most contested part of the article. (It seemed a better way to manage it than using the talk page itself as the participants in edit war would agree to working directly on the main article.) I figure once consensus text is agreed upon, I can cut and paste that into the main article (replacing the currently messed up sections) and can move the temp page into the talk page's archive, but should I seek a history merge so that attributions for edits made to develop the final consensus text are included in the article history? Or is it better to put a {{ Copied}} banner on the talk page pointing to the temp page or the archive? — Carter ( talk) 16:03, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
User:GiantSnowman history-merged Draft:Alejandro Balde to Alejandro Balde. But User:Primefac declined many same cases. Sawol ( talk) 13:49, 16 September 2021 (UTC)