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I have frequent problems with the Curation Toolbar not loading. Anyone have any tips? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:47, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
I have the same problem (Firefox + XP).Jsmith1000 (talk) 00:17, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
It's not loading for me at Derrick Williams (footballer), but it is on other articles, I wonder if that's because the article in question has been configured with pending changes level 1 protection. (Mac/Chrome 24.0.1312.52) --j⚛e deckertalk 15:25, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm having a similar problem on both Chrome and Firefox in Windows 7. If I start from the New Pages Feed page and click on an article to review, it pops up, but nowhere else.-- Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... ( talk) 22:25, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Before thinking of coming here, I started a thread at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Floating_bar_for_Page_Curation.2FNew_Pages_Feed about the page curation toolbar. Basically, the toolbar started appearing for me even though I didn't want it, and it appears again even if I close it. I thinking now that here would probably have been a better place for what I posted, but since I already started the discussion there, I figured I would inform people here of it. Calathan ( talk) 19:40, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I was looking at the oldest pages on the New Page Feed, and I noticed that although most of the pages were from January 2013, there are several older ones. The very last one is from 2005. Is this a bug, or is there a reason for it? Sorry, this is my first time looking at this feed. — Anne Delong ( talk) 23:38, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I think the tool is very easy to use - just one thing drives me nuts - if I add a tag sometimes it marks the page as reviewed, when I don't want to mark it as reviewed. Is this set to happen for certain pages? Secondly a suggestion - it would be useful when adding the Stub tag to be able to specify the tag you want rather than the generic tag. Just my 2c Gbawden ( talk) 08:43, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi Folks, Fantastic tool that you have developed! Love it, can't say enough good things about it! I do have one request that I'd like to make. I checked the archives and this has been requested once before and that is to add an "article merge" request function. So far I've been using the deletion request tool and then add to the notes that I'm requesting that it be merged into another article. The folks that monitor Request for Deletion boards don't particularly like that approach since the PC tool is somewhat automated, but if we had a way to request a merge without automatically generating a deletion request I think it would streamline editing quite a bit. Just a suggestion... :) -- Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... ( talk) 22:11, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
I've used the sidebar three times now to nominate an article for speedy deletion. The edit summary it leaves for the author notification is not working, and always reads as "pagetriage-del-talk-page-notify-summary: Parse error at position 44 in input: Notifying author of deletion nomination for $1". e.g. here. Storkk ( talk) 15:33, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
On pages with {{
Composition bar}}, the numbers in the bar will float above the Page Curation flyout. This can be seen when infoboxes use the bars, as they end up roughly in the same place. I guess it might have something to do with the bars' z-index
CSS properties. Not sure if that makes it a Page Curation issue or Composition bar issue. —
daranz [
t ]
06:02, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
z-index
of 10. It might be a large-enough value that someone arbitrarily picked, but it's higher than the z-index
es of the PC toolbar and flyouts (seems to be 2 and 3, respectively). It seems that another oft-used template that uses z-index
on this wiki is {{
Location map}}, which sets the z-index
of a div to 100, but I haven't been able to check how that actually looks with a PC flyout on the page.z-index
set to values of more than 2 will mean going over the Page Curation interface elements. —
daranz [
t ]
23:34, 7 February 2013 (UTC)"Tag cleanup is missing required parameter." I don't know where to put the parameter. GeorgeLouis ( talk) 15:39, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
When you are tagging an article, and it gives a message to the user, it does not add a signature so you have to go to the talkpage and add the ~~~~, giving the user two messages. I think this should be fixed. -- Yrtneg T 02:46, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
When I open a page, and then scroll to the next one (using the arrow button) it doesn't respect the filter settings. If I exclude reviewed pages I'll still get reviewed pages after scrolling with the right-side panel. I don't think it used to do this, or if so I'd somehow avoided it. Is this new? Anyone else notice this? Any workarounds?
More generally, while I understand that this system is nicer for those who are new to patrolling, this new system is hardly a model of efficiency given my old workflow. Shadowjams ( talk) 01:14, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
There is a problem with the curation toolbar. It continues to appear on the articles where it was opened even after it was closed. That doesn't look normal to me. ZachG (Talk) 15:49, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
I was looking at pages from the New Pages Feed, and I wanted to tag one of them because it appeared to be written by someone from the company named on the page, and the citations were badly formatted. I use the toolbar and clicked on a couple of tags, added a comment, and clicked the "Mark as reviewed" button, but the tags did not appear on the page. I had to go and add them manually by cutting and pasting from the Template pages. I'm not sure what caused this; it worked other times. — Anne Delong ( talk) 16:39, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi everyone. I just noticed that the fix for Template:Db-notice-multiple-NPF that we worked out in this thread still hasn't been implemented on the javascript end yet. Any chance of the developers getting this working? Or maybe we could just implement Writ Keeper's suggested code? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:53, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
A couple of days ago, the Page Curation floating toolbar stopped appearing. At first I thought it was fluke or that the software was undergoing maintenance, but it hasn't returned. I am experiencing this with both Firefox and Chrome. - Mr X 23:37, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
1) Pages without <ref>..</ref> tags are marked as having no citations. If you use the {{sfnp...}} templates your page appears as if there were no citations.
2) When investigating this I noticed that the toolbar does not appear, eventually from the archives I gathered that this is correct for your own pages. Perhaps next time that WP:Page_Curation/Help is revised this could be made clear please. Thankyou. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 17:54, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
One of the problems I see with curation is that it marks pages as reviewed when the editor uses it to nominate them for deletion. When a page is up for deletion, we need more eyes on it, no less. But many of us filter so that we omit already reviewed pages. For example, I just found a page that was PRODed, then the PROD contested, and I subsequently tagged it for speedy as a hoax (because that's what it is). I ran into it just because I messed up my filter view and included reviewed pages, which I normally don't do. Pages that are up for deletion (CSD, PROD or AFD) need to stay unreviewed. If for whatever reason the original editor doesn't come back to look at the page, it's possible that it will end up being ignored. We need less hoaxes and low-quality content, not more. Curation is the first line of defense, and I think this would be a worthwhile change to the functionality of the toolbar. At least include an option to go ahead with the delete proposal, but keep the page unreviewed. § FreeRangeFrog croak 00:28, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
There already exist bots for fixing malicious removal of CSD templates, and the tagger can watchlist the page if they're concerned that might happen. Other than that, CSD-templated articles do get reviewed by an admin at some point, so they enter that queue instead of disappearing into a black hole. PROD is a bigger issue, as contested PRODs may go unnoticed if the original PRODer isn't paying attention and doesn't get a courtesy notification, but other than that they do have their own category where interested parties may review them. — daranz [ t ] 04:37, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
I thought that one of the big wins of this new system was that unpatrolled articles were marked {{ NOINDEX}} and therefore if we deleted an article without it being patrolled it wouldn't get picked up by Google. We've had problems in the past with all sorts of crap persisting in search engines for days after it has been deleted. The system lets you filter articles tagged for deletion into or out of your feed so there should be no need to mark them as patrolled. Ϣere SpielChequers 16:05, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
I have a user page that the page curation tool tells me is an orphan and has no refs. The page in question will never have refs and will always be an orphan. Shouldn't page curation just be for article namespace? We don't really care what happens in user namespace (within reason). -- Alan Liefting ( talk - contribs) 19:15, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
I was wondering if I could get a vector.js loader script to have the Page Curator up all the time OR have a loader script put a full time link in my Toolbar to 'Curate this page'. It's rather useful tbh and not just for new page feed. I went to a few IRC chats to ask but was ignored :( I use a few *.js items and would really love having this as a full time app/gadget. Geremy Hebert (talk | contribs) 15:49, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
If I sort by oldest articles, I see Adam and Eve there, which has existed since 2001. § FreeRangeFrog croak 17:44, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Can someone add:
-- Atlantima ( talk) 01:20, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
{{ admin-help}} Can we please get Adam and Eve off of that list, somehow? I have self-diagnosed OCD, and it's driving me nuts, though the irony isn't lost on me. I'm a reviewer, too; I thought the page protection might be the issue, but it isn't. Any ideas on what's going wrong, here? To see what I'm talking about, just open up the list and tell it to sort by the Oldest. -- Jackson Peebles ( talk) 05:02, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
Any chance of getting this fixed? I still keep seeing messages like this one, and I am reliably informed that this is displeasing the Gods of Wiki. I was hoping to avoid actually having to go to the new Ashburn server site, but I have my trusty 300 baud modem at the ready and I'm willing to go and patch it in myself if that's what it takes. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 17:25, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a javascript popup box giving you options of what to do when you click on "review"? It worked earlier, and I liked it, but now it doesn't work? Barney the barney barney ( talk) 22:35, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I tried this tool today for the first time, and I actually like it. One option that I miss from Special:NewPages is to pick articles from somewhere in the middle of the queue (5 days old, 10 days old). My Inet access is slow, and I run into other editors patrolling the same page, both at the end and the start of the queue. Cheers, Pgallert ( talk) 07:32, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
The log shows, I am sure, the "Mark as unreviewed" trends for at least one editor who appears to mark things as reviewed that are, at best, imperfect, and at worst CSD fodder. That editor's talk page is becoming congested with messages about their reviews being undone. Is there a formal system for reviewing performance of curators? Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 13:47, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Surely the solution rather than having one person mark it as reviewed is to require pages to be accepted by more than one reviewer, perhaps 2 or 3. That way the chances of all 3 people making mistakes is slim. And you don't have to be nasty to people who are trying their best but failing miserably. Barney the barney barney ( talk) 14:56, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
As I have been working with the New pages tool I have noticed that there is significant room for improvement. Here are some suggestions.
Other than that not too bad. Kumioko ( talk) 15:19, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
These are great tools. Are they looking for maintainers? For localization? +1 to the idea of a summary view (for all curation tools). – SJ + 17:50, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
This may be the same issue raised here: Wikipedia talk:Page Curation/Archive 6#Four Tildes. I don't know if it hasn't been addressed yet, or if it has failed again, but user page notifications are not being signed, and more importantly, they are not being time stamped.
Not only does this present an archiving issue, but it also makes it a little difficult to follow the sequence of events on user's talk page where several of these notifications have been posted. - Mr X 20:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it's a Page Curation problem, but it's not in the other templates a user I contacted about it uses. I refer to the wording in the initial author notification - it says "an promotion". It's not in the spam-warn template, nor is it in Twinkle's notification (just tested that by warning myself). That leaves Page Curation as the possible source. As I don't know how to access the PC templates to check this, could someone please check, and if it is here, correct this? (And see if there are any other similar bloops, if it is a fault here...) Thanks. Peridon ( talk) 19:01, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
This doesn't affect operation, but is a bug: the "number of articles" in the queue displays as the same # for me regardless of what filters I have on. EG if I say only new editor-created pages vs all pages, the filter works (in that I only see new editor contribs) but the number of pages to be reviewed (11K+) remains the same. thx. -- phoebe / ( talk to me) 21:17, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
I am only able to view the pages created in last 2 hours. If I attempt to scroll down, the feed keeps on getting repeated. -- Vigyani ( talk) 22:47, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
I have a similar problem on Windows with Chrome, it only loads one block of pages, and continually loads the same one when I get to the bottom. Samwalton9 ( talk) 21:33, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
When I use the tool to tag articles for deletion, it leaves two signatures below the message on the page creator's talk. Happens with Speedy deletes, prods, and AFDs. See https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Cheyer2&oldid=552606151, https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Michaelpullman&oldid=552476172, and https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Cheyer2&oldid=552625707 for examples.-- Atlantima ~✿~ ( talk) 19:23, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
The 'Sort by, Newest, Oldest' options are cut in half on an iPad 2.-- A bit iffy ( talk) 10:26, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Editors should not be able to add the "Disputed" tag without giving some explanation. It was one of the many tags thrown at a simple, poorly-written, stub about a village here. No indication of anything controversial. Pam D 09:36, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Regarding marking pages as CSD — As of at most a day or two ago, the automated message Notifying author of deletion nomination that's put on the creator's talk page now puts the notifier's signature in a poem box (precedes the signature with a single space). For an example, take a look at this. This happened to both me and another user which is what led me to believe it is a bug. Is this a template that I or someone else can edit? Not a clue where to find it... Thanks — MusikAnimal talk 00:07, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Great! Thanks for the additional examples; in bugzilla now, and User:Kaldari and I are talking through it. Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 20:26, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Would it be possible to set some kind of edit summary for messages posted with the curation toolbar? I use the edit summary feature on every edit I make so I can easily find something if I go back through my contributions, so something like this is not helpful. -- W. D. Graham 11:28, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Went to review pages just now and the toolbar that used to appear on the right hand side is no longer visible, any ideas why? I'm using Chrome. Mo ainm ~Talk 01:00, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Tried this tool for the first time yesterday. Liked it so much I used it again today. Then the took keep popping up when I was just casually browsing, on long-esteblished pages. So I closed it (with the X). Now when I go back to the Unreviewed Pages list, and click on "Review", the tool does not return. I figured out how to turn it off. How do I turn it back on? Thanks! 78.26 ( I'm no IP, talk to me!) 20:53, 6 June 2013 (UTC) PS - I don't see an area in preferences where I can turn this on/off. 78.26 ( I'm no IP, talk to me!) 14:54, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
For Montan (troubadour) the page info is giving some confused dates
with the review date before the creation date. I'm working in UTC+1, and the page was created at 23:10 UTC with the review edit at 23:21 UTC. It looks like the creation time is in my time zone UTC+1, but the review time is in UTC.-- Salix ( talk): 23:29, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
I think {{ Underlinked}} should be added to the tool in the metadata section. At the moment we only have {{ Dead end}} for articles with not many wikilinks which isn't appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesmcmahon0 ( talk • contribs) 12:05, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Pages which I nominated for deletion (speedy, PROD, or AfD) are sometimes tagged as reviewed automatically, instead of as Nominated for Deletion, and I cannot seem to change that. 069952497a Comments and complaints Stuff I've done 23:46, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
I sometimes am looking at new pages, and when I scroll down, I get the pages repeated, but it generally goes away given time. Is this meant to happen?
Thanks, Mat ty. 007 09:55, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
It happens to me too, but up to now I haven't bothered reporting it. It needs fixing badly. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 15:38, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Seems to be resolved? Fiddle Faddle 16:14, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
I've been working on wp:npp and with most articles the toolbar appears without a problem but with two of them, .44 Remington Centerfire, and .223 Wylde, the toolbar does not appear. I've tried refreshing and hovering over the area where the toolbar pops up but no luck. What's causing this, and how can it be fixed? I previously asked at the regular helpdesk, here. Thank you. JanetteDoe ( talk) 03:44, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Special:NewPagesFeed uses the date/time a page was created in the listing; the list is sorted by that date/time. But if an article was created in userspace, and subsequently moved to articlespace, this date/time can misleading. For example, the "oldest" article in the listing, as of this moment, is one dated 02:56, 16 July 2009. In fact, this article was moved to articlespace today; it's real date is 13 July.
Since this "oldest" article is an autopatrolled article, it is supposed to remain in the feed for 60 days. That means that the system knows (despite the article's 2009 date) that in fact it appeared in articlespace today (July 13), and so the 60 days have not yet been reached. If the system knows that, then it should display that date (the one it is using to count down the 60 days), not the page creation date, and it should sort by that date, not the page creation date. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:18, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
When curating pages, I started marking them as reviewed and then might add some tags. However, adding tags causes them to be marked reviewed again, even if they have already been reviewed. For an example, see the page curation log and search for entries against page I Don't Luv U. I don't have an account on wikimedia's bugzilla but someone who does might want to open a bug report. JanetteDoe ( talk) 13:25, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
There are two pages at the back of the queue on the New pages feed that will not go away, and will not show the curation toolbar.
Other pages are working fine for me and the tool bar is showing normally everywhere else. I tried what other people suggested about the toolbar being closed, and looking for the Patrol link on the left, and it is not there. Any ideas? — Bill W. ( Talk) ( Contrib) — 14:11, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
It would be a great help if the Page Curation software didn't allow editors to add {{ stub}} to an article which already has one or more subject-specific stub tags (identified as templates ending in "-stub". Here's an example: two good stub tags, but an editor uses Page Curation to add {{ stub}}, wasting other editors' time (but boosting their own edit count, I suppose). Pam D 14:48, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Is anyone else having issues loading the feed oldest-pages-first? -- TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 15:04, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
The best thing to do is to click on the Bugzilla report and find out what's going on. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 03:53, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Still Broken — Seriously, is anyone actually working on this? There is no movement on the Bugzilla page since the 19th, an apparently no communication from any developer. I liked the feed, but now I have nothing. I saw the suggestion for "selecting one of the options on the bottom half of the filters pop up" - but why should I have to select some type of problem? So it is now impossible to patrol pages for which this system finds no errors? It was working fine and suddenly it broke. The development team needs to look at what happened right before this thread started, because this was reported here less than a day after the problem began. — Bill W. ( Talk) ( Contrib) — 21:23, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 August 18#Template:Nothanks-sd-NPF. — This, that and the other (talk) 09:46, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
It's here. Why is enwiki-specific code stored in the git repository, instead of in a local MediaWiki namespace page, I wonder? That was a bad design decision by whoever wrote PageTriage. — This, that and the other (talk) 06:05, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
The Page Curation toolbar never shows up when I'm browsing Special:NewPagesFeed and click "Review". For example, every time I go to Gender and Mine Action Programme (GMAP), the toolbar doesn't show up. (Using Firefox 23.0.1 on Windows 7) APerson ( talk!) 12:07, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I clicked "Curation toolbar" from the toolbox menu, just to see what it did. I brought up the curation toolbar, I played with it a bit, decided I don't like it - but I can't get rid of it. WP:CURATE says I can close it by clicking the close/cross icon, but there is no such icon on the top of my toolbar. Is there some other way to get rid of it?
I'm using Firefox 14.0.1 on Windows 7 with Monobook skin in my Wikipedia preferences, but I get exactly the same problem with Internet Explorer 11 ("desktop", not metro) on Windows 8.1 (this is on a virtual machine, with minimal customisation of IE), and/or if I switch to Vector skin.
I tried rolling back my Firefox profile to an earlier version, but that doesn't remove the toolbar - presumably it's stored in my Wikipedia profile online, but I can't see anything obvious under Preferences.
I really don't want the toolbar appearing - how can I get rid of it. Mitch Ames ( talk) 12:53, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
The Curation toolbar adds {{ linkrot}} when it should be adding {{ cleanup-bare URLs}} instead. -( t) Josve05a ( c) 22:52, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Usually, I do categorizing work with Page Curation. Over the past few days, something very strange seems to be happening: HotCat is working for me on normal articles, but doesn't work whenever I access an article from Page Curation. I'm on IE8, if that matters. 069952497a ( U- T- C- E) 18:11, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
It could just be me being thick but I can't seem to remove the reference to a page being an Orphan. I checked it - it isn't an orphan but the tag is still showing on the [ [7]]. There is no where on the page to remove the tag and reviewing the page didn't do it so - am I missing a step somewhere? Antiqueight discuss 15:40, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if it's possible to make, but it would be great if you can sort the articles (different projects and/or specific words). Sander.v.Ginkel ( talk) 07:47, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
When the tool leaves a note on the author's talk page there is a wikilink error:
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged FooBar for deletion, because it appears to duplicate an existing Wikipedia article, [[:{{{article}}}]].
The article template is correct, but the notice just has that {{{article}}} thing, rather than the actual wikilink.-- ☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 03:24, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
When tagging with more than one criteria the author gets a note saying it seems to be inappropriate for a variety of reason. Would it be possible to get each reason listed? If it would end up to be too bulky I will try to remember to place a follow-up note.-- ☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 15:03, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Just curious. Thanks. Sulfurboy ( talk) 09:50, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
This has probably been raised already, but often when I click the 'next page' button at the base it whites out and doesn't go anywhere, and I have to go back to the new page stack to find another new page to patrol. There are still plenty there so I know that it can't be that it has reached the end of the stack. Am I doing something wrong? -- S.G.(GH) ping! 11:41, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Ok. S.G.(GH) ping! 12:53, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Fwiw, I use chrome and win 7 and never have had this issue. Sulfurboy ( talk) 10:00, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
I finally came across this error today. It seems to happen when you sort the Special:NewPagesFeed by oldest and click the one at the top. Almost as if it's trying to continue to track backwards instead of forwards when you click for a new page. If someone could pass this one to the bug report it'd be appreciated as I don't want to edit that bug page without being familiar with how that works. Sulfurboy ( talk) 18:29, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 20:37, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Possibly a temporary thing. Working now. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 03:04, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
It's like infecting your computer with a virus; gotta quit WP to lose that crap. I hunt and peck for things that (1) I have some knowledge or interest in and (2) that I know will pass GNG. I've got no desire whatsoever to go down a 5 day old list page after page after page. Ugh. Carrite ( talk) 05:12, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
I've just started new page patrolling again. It's less awful than I remember.
On some articles, the page curation toolbar sits nicely on the right-hand side of the page. On others, it hides itself away at the bottom of the page. My working hypothesis is it does so where there's some content that's floating right: an image, infobox etc. It floats properly on List of Astro Boy (2003) episodes but not on Dag Rune Olsen, for instance. I'm using Firefox 25 on OS X 10.9. — Tom Morris ( talk) 08:47, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
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I have frequent problems with the Curation Toolbar not loading. Anyone have any tips? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:47, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
I have the same problem (Firefox + XP).Jsmith1000 (talk) 00:17, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
It's not loading for me at Derrick Williams (footballer), but it is on other articles, I wonder if that's because the article in question has been configured with pending changes level 1 protection. (Mac/Chrome 24.0.1312.52) --j⚛e deckertalk 15:25, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm having a similar problem on both Chrome and Firefox in Windows 7. If I start from the New Pages Feed page and click on an article to review, it pops up, but nowhere else.-- Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... ( talk) 22:25, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Before thinking of coming here, I started a thread at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Floating_bar_for_Page_Curation.2FNew_Pages_Feed about the page curation toolbar. Basically, the toolbar started appearing for me even though I didn't want it, and it appears again even if I close it. I thinking now that here would probably have been a better place for what I posted, but since I already started the discussion there, I figured I would inform people here of it. Calathan ( talk) 19:40, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I was looking at the oldest pages on the New Page Feed, and I noticed that although most of the pages were from January 2013, there are several older ones. The very last one is from 2005. Is this a bug, or is there a reason for it? Sorry, this is my first time looking at this feed. — Anne Delong ( talk) 23:38, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I think the tool is very easy to use - just one thing drives me nuts - if I add a tag sometimes it marks the page as reviewed, when I don't want to mark it as reviewed. Is this set to happen for certain pages? Secondly a suggestion - it would be useful when adding the Stub tag to be able to specify the tag you want rather than the generic tag. Just my 2c Gbawden ( talk) 08:43, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi Folks, Fantastic tool that you have developed! Love it, can't say enough good things about it! I do have one request that I'd like to make. I checked the archives and this has been requested once before and that is to add an "article merge" request function. So far I've been using the deletion request tool and then add to the notes that I'm requesting that it be merged into another article. The folks that monitor Request for Deletion boards don't particularly like that approach since the PC tool is somewhat automated, but if we had a way to request a merge without automatically generating a deletion request I think it would streamline editing quite a bit. Just a suggestion... :) -- Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... ( talk) 22:11, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
I've used the sidebar three times now to nominate an article for speedy deletion. The edit summary it leaves for the author notification is not working, and always reads as "pagetriage-del-talk-page-notify-summary: Parse error at position 44 in input: Notifying author of deletion nomination for $1". e.g. here. Storkk ( talk) 15:33, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
On pages with {{
Composition bar}}, the numbers in the bar will float above the Page Curation flyout. This can be seen when infoboxes use the bars, as they end up roughly in the same place. I guess it might have something to do with the bars' z-index
CSS properties. Not sure if that makes it a Page Curation issue or Composition bar issue. —
daranz [
t ]
06:02, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
z-index
of 10. It might be a large-enough value that someone arbitrarily picked, but it's higher than the z-index
es of the PC toolbar and flyouts (seems to be 2 and 3, respectively). It seems that another oft-used template that uses z-index
on this wiki is {{
Location map}}, which sets the z-index
of a div to 100, but I haven't been able to check how that actually looks with a PC flyout on the page.z-index
set to values of more than 2 will mean going over the Page Curation interface elements. —
daranz [
t ]
23:34, 7 February 2013 (UTC)"Tag cleanup is missing required parameter." I don't know where to put the parameter. GeorgeLouis ( talk) 15:39, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
When you are tagging an article, and it gives a message to the user, it does not add a signature so you have to go to the talkpage and add the ~~~~, giving the user two messages. I think this should be fixed. -- Yrtneg T 02:46, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
When I open a page, and then scroll to the next one (using the arrow button) it doesn't respect the filter settings. If I exclude reviewed pages I'll still get reviewed pages after scrolling with the right-side panel. I don't think it used to do this, or if so I'd somehow avoided it. Is this new? Anyone else notice this? Any workarounds?
More generally, while I understand that this system is nicer for those who are new to patrolling, this new system is hardly a model of efficiency given my old workflow. Shadowjams ( talk) 01:14, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
There is a problem with the curation toolbar. It continues to appear on the articles where it was opened even after it was closed. That doesn't look normal to me. ZachG (Talk) 15:49, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
I was looking at pages from the New Pages Feed, and I wanted to tag one of them because it appeared to be written by someone from the company named on the page, and the citations were badly formatted. I use the toolbar and clicked on a couple of tags, added a comment, and clicked the "Mark as reviewed" button, but the tags did not appear on the page. I had to go and add them manually by cutting and pasting from the Template pages. I'm not sure what caused this; it worked other times. — Anne Delong ( talk) 16:39, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi everyone. I just noticed that the fix for Template:Db-notice-multiple-NPF that we worked out in this thread still hasn't been implemented on the javascript end yet. Any chance of the developers getting this working? Or maybe we could just implement Writ Keeper's suggested code? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:53, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
A couple of days ago, the Page Curation floating toolbar stopped appearing. At first I thought it was fluke or that the software was undergoing maintenance, but it hasn't returned. I am experiencing this with both Firefox and Chrome. - Mr X 23:37, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
1) Pages without <ref>..</ref> tags are marked as having no citations. If you use the {{sfnp...}} templates your page appears as if there were no citations.
2) When investigating this I noticed that the toolbar does not appear, eventually from the archives I gathered that this is correct for your own pages. Perhaps next time that WP:Page_Curation/Help is revised this could be made clear please. Thankyou. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 17:54, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
One of the problems I see with curation is that it marks pages as reviewed when the editor uses it to nominate them for deletion. When a page is up for deletion, we need more eyes on it, no less. But many of us filter so that we omit already reviewed pages. For example, I just found a page that was PRODed, then the PROD contested, and I subsequently tagged it for speedy as a hoax (because that's what it is). I ran into it just because I messed up my filter view and included reviewed pages, which I normally don't do. Pages that are up for deletion (CSD, PROD or AFD) need to stay unreviewed. If for whatever reason the original editor doesn't come back to look at the page, it's possible that it will end up being ignored. We need less hoaxes and low-quality content, not more. Curation is the first line of defense, and I think this would be a worthwhile change to the functionality of the toolbar. At least include an option to go ahead with the delete proposal, but keep the page unreviewed. § FreeRangeFrog croak 00:28, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
There already exist bots for fixing malicious removal of CSD templates, and the tagger can watchlist the page if they're concerned that might happen. Other than that, CSD-templated articles do get reviewed by an admin at some point, so they enter that queue instead of disappearing into a black hole. PROD is a bigger issue, as contested PRODs may go unnoticed if the original PRODer isn't paying attention and doesn't get a courtesy notification, but other than that they do have their own category where interested parties may review them. — daranz [ t ] 04:37, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
I thought that one of the big wins of this new system was that unpatrolled articles were marked {{ NOINDEX}} and therefore if we deleted an article without it being patrolled it wouldn't get picked up by Google. We've had problems in the past with all sorts of crap persisting in search engines for days after it has been deleted. The system lets you filter articles tagged for deletion into or out of your feed so there should be no need to mark them as patrolled. Ϣere SpielChequers 16:05, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
I have a user page that the page curation tool tells me is an orphan and has no refs. The page in question will never have refs and will always be an orphan. Shouldn't page curation just be for article namespace? We don't really care what happens in user namespace (within reason). -- Alan Liefting ( talk - contribs) 19:15, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
I was wondering if I could get a vector.js loader script to have the Page Curator up all the time OR have a loader script put a full time link in my Toolbar to 'Curate this page'. It's rather useful tbh and not just for new page feed. I went to a few IRC chats to ask but was ignored :( I use a few *.js items and would really love having this as a full time app/gadget. Geremy Hebert (talk | contribs) 15:49, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
If I sort by oldest articles, I see Adam and Eve there, which has existed since 2001. § FreeRangeFrog croak 17:44, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Can someone add:
-- Atlantima ( talk) 01:20, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
{{ admin-help}} Can we please get Adam and Eve off of that list, somehow? I have self-diagnosed OCD, and it's driving me nuts, though the irony isn't lost on me. I'm a reviewer, too; I thought the page protection might be the issue, but it isn't. Any ideas on what's going wrong, here? To see what I'm talking about, just open up the list and tell it to sort by the Oldest. -- Jackson Peebles ( talk) 05:02, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
Any chance of getting this fixed? I still keep seeing messages like this one, and I am reliably informed that this is displeasing the Gods of Wiki. I was hoping to avoid actually having to go to the new Ashburn server site, but I have my trusty 300 baud modem at the ready and I'm willing to go and patch it in myself if that's what it takes. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 17:25, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a javascript popup box giving you options of what to do when you click on "review"? It worked earlier, and I liked it, but now it doesn't work? Barney the barney barney ( talk) 22:35, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I tried this tool today for the first time, and I actually like it. One option that I miss from Special:NewPages is to pick articles from somewhere in the middle of the queue (5 days old, 10 days old). My Inet access is slow, and I run into other editors patrolling the same page, both at the end and the start of the queue. Cheers, Pgallert ( talk) 07:32, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
The log shows, I am sure, the "Mark as unreviewed" trends for at least one editor who appears to mark things as reviewed that are, at best, imperfect, and at worst CSD fodder. That editor's talk page is becoming congested with messages about their reviews being undone. Is there a formal system for reviewing performance of curators? Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 13:47, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Surely the solution rather than having one person mark it as reviewed is to require pages to be accepted by more than one reviewer, perhaps 2 or 3. That way the chances of all 3 people making mistakes is slim. And you don't have to be nasty to people who are trying their best but failing miserably. Barney the barney barney ( talk) 14:56, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
As I have been working with the New pages tool I have noticed that there is significant room for improvement. Here are some suggestions.
Other than that not too bad. Kumioko ( talk) 15:19, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
These are great tools. Are they looking for maintainers? For localization? +1 to the idea of a summary view (for all curation tools). – SJ + 17:50, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
This may be the same issue raised here: Wikipedia talk:Page Curation/Archive 6#Four Tildes. I don't know if it hasn't been addressed yet, or if it has failed again, but user page notifications are not being signed, and more importantly, they are not being time stamped.
Not only does this present an archiving issue, but it also makes it a little difficult to follow the sequence of events on user's talk page where several of these notifications have been posted. - Mr X 20:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it's a Page Curation problem, but it's not in the other templates a user I contacted about it uses. I refer to the wording in the initial author notification - it says "an promotion". It's not in the spam-warn template, nor is it in Twinkle's notification (just tested that by warning myself). That leaves Page Curation as the possible source. As I don't know how to access the PC templates to check this, could someone please check, and if it is here, correct this? (And see if there are any other similar bloops, if it is a fault here...) Thanks. Peridon ( talk) 19:01, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
This doesn't affect operation, but is a bug: the "number of articles" in the queue displays as the same # for me regardless of what filters I have on. EG if I say only new editor-created pages vs all pages, the filter works (in that I only see new editor contribs) but the number of pages to be reviewed (11K+) remains the same. thx. -- phoebe / ( talk to me) 21:17, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
I am only able to view the pages created in last 2 hours. If I attempt to scroll down, the feed keeps on getting repeated. -- Vigyani ( talk) 22:47, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
I have a similar problem on Windows with Chrome, it only loads one block of pages, and continually loads the same one when I get to the bottom. Samwalton9 ( talk) 21:33, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
When I use the tool to tag articles for deletion, it leaves two signatures below the message on the page creator's talk. Happens with Speedy deletes, prods, and AFDs. See https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Cheyer2&oldid=552606151, https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Michaelpullman&oldid=552476172, and https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Cheyer2&oldid=552625707 for examples.-- Atlantima ~✿~ ( talk) 19:23, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
The 'Sort by, Newest, Oldest' options are cut in half on an iPad 2.-- A bit iffy ( talk) 10:26, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Editors should not be able to add the "Disputed" tag without giving some explanation. It was one of the many tags thrown at a simple, poorly-written, stub about a village here. No indication of anything controversial. Pam D 09:36, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Regarding marking pages as CSD — As of at most a day or two ago, the automated message Notifying author of deletion nomination that's put on the creator's talk page now puts the notifier's signature in a poem box (precedes the signature with a single space). For an example, take a look at this. This happened to both me and another user which is what led me to believe it is a bug. Is this a template that I or someone else can edit? Not a clue where to find it... Thanks — MusikAnimal talk 00:07, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Great! Thanks for the additional examples; in bugzilla now, and User:Kaldari and I are talking through it. Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 20:26, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Would it be possible to set some kind of edit summary for messages posted with the curation toolbar? I use the edit summary feature on every edit I make so I can easily find something if I go back through my contributions, so something like this is not helpful. -- W. D. Graham 11:28, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Went to review pages just now and the toolbar that used to appear on the right hand side is no longer visible, any ideas why? I'm using Chrome. Mo ainm ~Talk 01:00, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Tried this tool for the first time yesterday. Liked it so much I used it again today. Then the took keep popping up when I was just casually browsing, on long-esteblished pages. So I closed it (with the X). Now when I go back to the Unreviewed Pages list, and click on "Review", the tool does not return. I figured out how to turn it off. How do I turn it back on? Thanks! 78.26 ( I'm no IP, talk to me!) 20:53, 6 June 2013 (UTC) PS - I don't see an area in preferences where I can turn this on/off. 78.26 ( I'm no IP, talk to me!) 14:54, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
For Montan (troubadour) the page info is giving some confused dates
with the review date before the creation date. I'm working in UTC+1, and the page was created at 23:10 UTC with the review edit at 23:21 UTC. It looks like the creation time is in my time zone UTC+1, but the review time is in UTC.-- Salix ( talk): 23:29, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
I think {{ Underlinked}} should be added to the tool in the metadata section. At the moment we only have {{ Dead end}} for articles with not many wikilinks which isn't appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesmcmahon0 ( talk • contribs) 12:05, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Pages which I nominated for deletion (speedy, PROD, or AfD) are sometimes tagged as reviewed automatically, instead of as Nominated for Deletion, and I cannot seem to change that. 069952497a Comments and complaints Stuff I've done 23:46, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
I sometimes am looking at new pages, and when I scroll down, I get the pages repeated, but it generally goes away given time. Is this meant to happen?
Thanks, Mat ty. 007 09:55, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
It happens to me too, but up to now I haven't bothered reporting it. It needs fixing badly. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 15:38, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Seems to be resolved? Fiddle Faddle 16:14, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
I've been working on wp:npp and with most articles the toolbar appears without a problem but with two of them, .44 Remington Centerfire, and .223 Wylde, the toolbar does not appear. I've tried refreshing and hovering over the area where the toolbar pops up but no luck. What's causing this, and how can it be fixed? I previously asked at the regular helpdesk, here. Thank you. JanetteDoe ( talk) 03:44, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Special:NewPagesFeed uses the date/time a page was created in the listing; the list is sorted by that date/time. But if an article was created in userspace, and subsequently moved to articlespace, this date/time can misleading. For example, the "oldest" article in the listing, as of this moment, is one dated 02:56, 16 July 2009. In fact, this article was moved to articlespace today; it's real date is 13 July.
Since this "oldest" article is an autopatrolled article, it is supposed to remain in the feed for 60 days. That means that the system knows (despite the article's 2009 date) that in fact it appeared in articlespace today (July 13), and so the 60 days have not yet been reached. If the system knows that, then it should display that date (the one it is using to count down the 60 days), not the page creation date, and it should sort by that date, not the page creation date. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:18, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
When curating pages, I started marking them as reviewed and then might add some tags. However, adding tags causes them to be marked reviewed again, even if they have already been reviewed. For an example, see the page curation log and search for entries against page I Don't Luv U. I don't have an account on wikimedia's bugzilla but someone who does might want to open a bug report. JanetteDoe ( talk) 13:25, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
There are two pages at the back of the queue on the New pages feed that will not go away, and will not show the curation toolbar.
Other pages are working fine for me and the tool bar is showing normally everywhere else. I tried what other people suggested about the toolbar being closed, and looking for the Patrol link on the left, and it is not there. Any ideas? — Bill W. ( Talk) ( Contrib) — 14:11, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
It would be a great help if the Page Curation software didn't allow editors to add {{ stub}} to an article which already has one or more subject-specific stub tags (identified as templates ending in "-stub". Here's an example: two good stub tags, but an editor uses Page Curation to add {{ stub}}, wasting other editors' time (but boosting their own edit count, I suppose). Pam D 14:48, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Is anyone else having issues loading the feed oldest-pages-first? -- TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 15:04, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
The best thing to do is to click on the Bugzilla report and find out what's going on. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 03:53, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Still Broken — Seriously, is anyone actually working on this? There is no movement on the Bugzilla page since the 19th, an apparently no communication from any developer. I liked the feed, but now I have nothing. I saw the suggestion for "selecting one of the options on the bottom half of the filters pop up" - but why should I have to select some type of problem? So it is now impossible to patrol pages for which this system finds no errors? It was working fine and suddenly it broke. The development team needs to look at what happened right before this thread started, because this was reported here less than a day after the problem began. — Bill W. ( Talk) ( Contrib) — 21:23, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 August 18#Template:Nothanks-sd-NPF. — This, that and the other (talk) 09:46, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
It's here. Why is enwiki-specific code stored in the git repository, instead of in a local MediaWiki namespace page, I wonder? That was a bad design decision by whoever wrote PageTriage. — This, that and the other (talk) 06:05, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
The Page Curation toolbar never shows up when I'm browsing Special:NewPagesFeed and click "Review". For example, every time I go to Gender and Mine Action Programme (GMAP), the toolbar doesn't show up. (Using Firefox 23.0.1 on Windows 7) APerson ( talk!) 12:07, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I clicked "Curation toolbar" from the toolbox menu, just to see what it did. I brought up the curation toolbar, I played with it a bit, decided I don't like it - but I can't get rid of it. WP:CURATE says I can close it by clicking the close/cross icon, but there is no such icon on the top of my toolbar. Is there some other way to get rid of it?
I'm using Firefox 14.0.1 on Windows 7 with Monobook skin in my Wikipedia preferences, but I get exactly the same problem with Internet Explorer 11 ("desktop", not metro) on Windows 8.1 (this is on a virtual machine, with minimal customisation of IE), and/or if I switch to Vector skin.
I tried rolling back my Firefox profile to an earlier version, but that doesn't remove the toolbar - presumably it's stored in my Wikipedia profile online, but I can't see anything obvious under Preferences.
I really don't want the toolbar appearing - how can I get rid of it. Mitch Ames ( talk) 12:53, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
The Curation toolbar adds {{ linkrot}} when it should be adding {{ cleanup-bare URLs}} instead. -( t) Josve05a ( c) 22:52, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Usually, I do categorizing work with Page Curation. Over the past few days, something very strange seems to be happening: HotCat is working for me on normal articles, but doesn't work whenever I access an article from Page Curation. I'm on IE8, if that matters. 069952497a ( U- T- C- E) 18:11, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
It could just be me being thick but I can't seem to remove the reference to a page being an Orphan. I checked it - it isn't an orphan but the tag is still showing on the [ [7]]. There is no where on the page to remove the tag and reviewing the page didn't do it so - am I missing a step somewhere? Antiqueight discuss 15:40, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if it's possible to make, but it would be great if you can sort the articles (different projects and/or specific words). Sander.v.Ginkel ( talk) 07:47, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
When the tool leaves a note on the author's talk page there is a wikilink error:
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged FooBar for deletion, because it appears to duplicate an existing Wikipedia article, [[:{{{article}}}]].
The article template is correct, but the notice just has that {{{article}}} thing, rather than the actual wikilink.-- ☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 03:24, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
When tagging with more than one criteria the author gets a note saying it seems to be inappropriate for a variety of reason. Would it be possible to get each reason listed? If it would end up to be too bulky I will try to remember to place a follow-up note.-- ☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 15:03, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Just curious. Thanks. Sulfurboy ( talk) 09:50, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
This has probably been raised already, but often when I click the 'next page' button at the base it whites out and doesn't go anywhere, and I have to go back to the new page stack to find another new page to patrol. There are still plenty there so I know that it can't be that it has reached the end of the stack. Am I doing something wrong? -- S.G.(GH) ping! 11:41, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Ok. S.G.(GH) ping! 12:53, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Fwiw, I use chrome and win 7 and never have had this issue. Sulfurboy ( talk) 10:00, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
I finally came across this error today. It seems to happen when you sort the Special:NewPagesFeed by oldest and click the one at the top. Almost as if it's trying to continue to track backwards instead of forwards when you click for a new page. If someone could pass this one to the bug report it'd be appreciated as I don't want to edit that bug page without being familiar with how that works. Sulfurboy ( talk) 18:29, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 20:37, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Possibly a temporary thing. Working now. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 03:04, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
It's like infecting your computer with a virus; gotta quit WP to lose that crap. I hunt and peck for things that (1) I have some knowledge or interest in and (2) that I know will pass GNG. I've got no desire whatsoever to go down a 5 day old list page after page after page. Ugh. Carrite ( talk) 05:12, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
I've just started new page patrolling again. It's less awful than I remember.
On some articles, the page curation toolbar sits nicely on the right-hand side of the page. On others, it hides itself away at the bottom of the page. My working hypothesis is it does so where there's some content that's floating right: an image, infobox etc. It floats properly on List of Astro Boy (2003) episodes but not on Dag Rune Olsen, for instance. I'm using Firefox 25 on OS X 10.9. — Tom Morris ( talk) 08:47, 12 November 2013 (UTC)