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Dear Committee. I was wondering if it could please be required that, when submitting diffs and other evidence, it all be dated at least with the year and preferably with the month & year. I think that this is important to help the Committee better understand the users' behavior, find trends, and distinguish between past & present behavior. Thanks!-- MarshalN20 ✉ 🕊 22:04, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
@ GorillaWarfare and Euryalus: I published eight of my shortest Evidences and overloaded the allowed 1000 words by 49 items. You can see that the evidence can't be shortened. I ask the Arbitration Committee to allow me 6000 words. -- Keysanger ( talk) 17:23, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
For example, I can't shorten following evidence:
See most of the Evidence in
User:Keysanger/sandbox5.
I think it is better a few words more and less work for the ArbCom that the reverse, few words here and much work for the ArbCom. -- Keysanger ( talk) 17:34, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
@ GorillaWarfare and Euryalus: I think you have to make sure that the investigation doesn't deviate to a content dispute in the case of the Causes of the War of the Pacific.
Please only post your evidence on the main evidence page. GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:43, 8 January 2017 (UTC) |
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I have invited Dentren and MarshalN20 two times to resolve the content dispute.
User Dentren has refused to participate the two times. User MarshalN20 refused the first time and screwed up the second with his rant. Now, the ArbCom deals with a personal dispute, and MarshalN20 has to explain why he refused the first one and screwed up the second one. I think it is too late for MarshalN20 for a content dispute. He should have thought it before. |
-- Keysanger ( talk) 20:52, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
@ ArbCom Clerks: I published in the project page my first 16 Evidences. Please, let me know if you have some reading comprehension problems, it could be my English. I am ready to respond for all my contributions to Wikipedia before, during and after the Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Argentine History and in any page. I urge the ArbCom to make an inquiry of any doubt about my behavior, but I don’t respond for what other editors may have said about me. I respond for Keysanger’s deeds, that is diffs. I expect the Arbitration Committee attests to the truth of my evidence and if needed, to ask for more information. -- Keysanger ( talk) 18:50, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
@ GorillaWarfare and Euryalus: We all agree that this is a Personal Dispute and as such it has a credibility component. There have been several texts and excerpts that been cited in different evidence items. In order to facilitate the work of the committee I propose that the clerks publish the complete passage (cited and non-cited) with the book data in the Workshop page. That would looks like:
That would free the ArbCom from looking in internet or public libraries the complete references and they could better and quickly appreciate the correctness, misrepresentation or falsity of the citations. Of course, both parties would present the desired quotations. -- Keysanger ( talk) 13:18, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
@ Keysanger:Im not sure the insertion of entire quotes etc by the clerks is within our remit, if you wish to include something in the workshop phase then this would need to be added by yourself. The clerks are responsible for maintaining order general housekeeping and the enforcement of decisions with regards to the pages not evidence submissions or proxy editing for other users. Amortias ( T)( C) 14:35, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
@ GorillaWarfare and Euryalus: I think we can finish the translation of MarshalN20's contrib to the Spanish Wikipedia in the Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/War of the Pacific: Muddle is good for "anudar" (to make knots) and I recommend that you document all of yourtheir actions. is "his actions", that is my actions in Spanish Wikipedia. I hope it is the last time we have to do with that kind of texts. Kind regards, -- Keysanger ( talk) 19:58, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Hello parties and others, the evidence phase for this case is closing at 23:59 (UTC) today. Please submit evidence before then. After the evidence phase is closed, your contributions at the workshop are still valued. Thanks, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 18:23, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
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Case clerks: L235 ( Talk) & Amortias ( Talk) Drafting arbitrators: GorillaWarfare ( Talk) & Euryalus ( Talk)
Wikipedia Arbitration |
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Track related changes |
Behaviour on this page: Arbitration case pages exist to assist the Arbitration Committee in arriving at a fair, well-informed decision. You are required to act with appropriate decorum during this case. While grievances must often be aired during a case, you are expected to air them without being rude or hostile, and to respond calmly to allegations against you. Accusations of misbehaviour posted in this case must be proven with clear evidence (and otherwise not made at all). Editors who conduct themselves inappropriately during a case may be sanctioned by an arbitrator, clerk, or functionary, without further warning, by being banned from further participation in the case, or being blocked altogether. Personal attacks against other users, including arbitrators or the clerks, will be met with sanctions. Behavior during a case may also be considered by the committee in arriving at a final decision.
Dear Committee. I was wondering if it could please be required that, when submitting diffs and other evidence, it all be dated at least with the year and preferably with the month & year. I think that this is important to help the Committee better understand the users' behavior, find trends, and distinguish between past & present behavior. Thanks!-- MarshalN20 ✉ 🕊 22:04, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
@ GorillaWarfare and Euryalus: I published eight of my shortest Evidences and overloaded the allowed 1000 words by 49 items. You can see that the evidence can't be shortened. I ask the Arbitration Committee to allow me 6000 words. -- Keysanger ( talk) 17:23, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
For example, I can't shorten following evidence:
See most of the Evidence in
User:Keysanger/sandbox5.
I think it is better a few words more and less work for the ArbCom that the reverse, few words here and much work for the ArbCom. -- Keysanger ( talk) 17:34, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
@ GorillaWarfare and Euryalus: I think you have to make sure that the investigation doesn't deviate to a content dispute in the case of the Causes of the War of the Pacific.
Please only post your evidence on the main evidence page. GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:43, 8 January 2017 (UTC) |
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The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
I have invited Dentren and MarshalN20 two times to resolve the content dispute.
User Dentren has refused to participate the two times. User MarshalN20 refused the first time and screwed up the second with his rant. Now, the ArbCom deals with a personal dispute, and MarshalN20 has to explain why he refused the first one and screwed up the second one. I think it is too late for MarshalN20 for a content dispute. He should have thought it before. |
-- Keysanger ( talk) 20:52, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
@ ArbCom Clerks: I published in the project page my first 16 Evidences. Please, let me know if you have some reading comprehension problems, it could be my English. I am ready to respond for all my contributions to Wikipedia before, during and after the Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Argentine History and in any page. I urge the ArbCom to make an inquiry of any doubt about my behavior, but I don’t respond for what other editors may have said about me. I respond for Keysanger’s deeds, that is diffs. I expect the Arbitration Committee attests to the truth of my evidence and if needed, to ask for more information. -- Keysanger ( talk) 18:50, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
@ GorillaWarfare and Euryalus: We all agree that this is a Personal Dispute and as such it has a credibility component. There have been several texts and excerpts that been cited in different evidence items. In order to facilitate the work of the committee I propose that the clerks publish the complete passage (cited and non-cited) with the book data in the Workshop page. That would looks like:
That would free the ArbCom from looking in internet or public libraries the complete references and they could better and quickly appreciate the correctness, misrepresentation or falsity of the citations. Of course, both parties would present the desired quotations. -- Keysanger ( talk) 13:18, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
@ Keysanger:Im not sure the insertion of entire quotes etc by the clerks is within our remit, if you wish to include something in the workshop phase then this would need to be added by yourself. The clerks are responsible for maintaining order general housekeeping and the enforcement of decisions with regards to the pages not evidence submissions or proxy editing for other users. Amortias ( T)( C) 14:35, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
@ GorillaWarfare and Euryalus: I think we can finish the translation of MarshalN20's contrib to the Spanish Wikipedia in the Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/War of the Pacific: Muddle is good for "anudar" (to make knots) and I recommend that you document all of yourtheir actions. is "his actions", that is my actions in Spanish Wikipedia. I hope it is the last time we have to do with that kind of texts. Kind regards, -- Keysanger ( talk) 19:58, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Hello parties and others, the evidence phase for this case is closing at 23:59 (UTC) today. Please submit evidence before then. After the evidence phase is closed, your contributions at the workshop are still valued. Thanks, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 18:23, 17 January 2017 (UTC)