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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:And Here She Is ... Ann-Margret#Requested move 7 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Wikiexplorationandhelping ( talk) 14:19, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
I've noticed that the subcategories of Category:Albums by recording location are inconsistently labeled as {{ container cat}}s, e.g. Category:Live albums recorded in Australia and Category:Live albums recorded in Sydney both are while Category:Live albums recorded in Argentina and Category:Live albums recorded in Buenos Aires are not. Is there a reason for this discrepancy? Should they remain as such? Personally, I think album articles are already noticeably limited in the number of available categories they can be placed in compared to most other article types (most of the album articles I've created have 3-7), and it doesn't appear like it would hurt to open those up. I've been thinking recently about what additional album categories could be created because of this, and I think this could be a good place to start. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 21:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
This section of the guideline ( Wikipedia:Notability (music) § Future material) was boldly rewritten in August 2023 by Doomsdayer520. He opened this discussion on this WikiProject's talk page after making the changes. I disagree with the change to the guideline as it places several unnecessary conditions (such as a tracklist and cover art) on top of the notability requirements for other albums, and is one of the very few guidelines to exceed the requirements of the general notability guideline. The only similar guideline is the one for unreleased films, which requires the project to have begun principal photography. This is not comparable to the burden currently placed on unreleased albums; just in the last two weeks, I've dealt with multiple articles on albums that had plentiful significant coverage in sources, singles released in promotion, and pre-orders open, but had to be kept in draftspace due to the lack of tracklists.
I propose to rewrite this section without the stringent additional requirements or revert to its previous version. — TechnoSquirrel69 ( sigh) 04:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
So now that we have taken out the "importance" parameter (which I agree with) from this table at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums#Statistics, does anyone know if there is any way of modifying the table so that we only see the quality assessment in a single column, similar to that at WP:SONGS? It would be a lot better as the current table is a mess with all the red links. Richard3120 ( talk) 17:18, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Who Killed...... The Zutons?#Requested move 8 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 20:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Part One has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. – zmbro ( talk) ( cont) 16:48, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Is the recently top 100 albums from Apple Music allowed to be referenced in the pages of albums that made the list? Cahlin29 ( talk) 04:38, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
So the article on Patrick Moraz's first solo album is located at The Story of I, but for those of you who don't know, "The Story of I" is not the actual title of the album. In fact, while it is unquestionably the album's WP:COMMONNAME, the phrase "The Story of I" doesn't appear anywhere on the album or its original packaging, so I can only guess how anyone came up with it. The reason why people don't use the real title is more obvious: it's an unpronounceable symbol which doesn't appear on any conventional keyboard.
While the article's name is fine as it is (again, WP:COMMONNAME), it seems like the real title of the album should at least be mentioned in the article, but though I've seen articles use such non-standard symbols, I don't know how one goes about adding them. Can anyone help me here? (Also, if by chance someone has handy sourced info about how and why "The Story of I" became the generally understood title for the album, that would be terrific.) Martin IIIa ( talk) 15:41, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
I wanted to write stuff on a re-recorded album on my favourite band Coldrain who have just released a re-recorded Final Destination for its fifteenth anniversary. I wasn't sure if I was meant to add it to the original article or make it its article, per what's been done with Taylor Swift's re-releases. But I figured that was down to because there was so much information available on those re-recordings or whatnot. What is the general consensus for bands who do re-recordings of their albums? Make it their own article or just add it to the original article? A bit puzzled on what to do, and I can't find any information on this either so figured this is what I should have done by asking this question here, so sorry if it's not in the appropriate place. I would greatly appreciate a response, thanks. Rockmusicfanatic20 ( talk) 21:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Would Album of the Year (AOTY) be reliable as a critic aggregator? The website clearly separates professional critic reviews from user reviews. — 🌙Eclipse ( talk) ( contribs) 00:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Too Many Humans.....#Requested move 17 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 04:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Is this source acceptable as a WP:RS for album reviews? Here's a recent example. Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 11:08, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Related to this discussion--what's the best practice for an article like Ship to Shore? All the ratings are shoved in the prose, instead of using the ratings template, which seems like the worst of all options as it leads to a clunky and ugly section (in my opinion). I think the template is useful, but I've also declined to add it a few times, and just didn't mention ratings at all. Is this regarded as a personal, status quo editorial choice? Does the community have a policy if an editor chooses to add a template (I don't plan on it, but it seems inevitable)? Cheers to Justin and Martin (and the great Richard Thompson), just thought it was best to start here... Caro7200 ( talk) 22:09, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Il Mare Calmo della Sera#Requested move 27 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 00:10, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
To address issues with this article's length, I have opened a discussion at Talk:Illmatic#Split proposal that may be of interest to this WikiProject. — 🌙Eclipse ( talk) ( contribs) 01:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
As, uh, mentioned only slightly above this thread:
What's the best practice for an article like Ship to Shore? All the ratings are shoved in the prose, instead of using the ratings template, which seems like the worst of all options as it leads to a clunky and ugly section (in my opinion). I think the template is useful, but I've also declined to add it a few times, and just didn't mention ratings at all. Is this regarded as a personal, status quo editorial choice? Does the community have a policy if an editor chooses to add a template (I don't plan on it, but it seems inevitable)? Cheers to Justin and Martin (and the great Richard Thompson), just thought it was best to start here...
I think it's an issue that pertains to the entire project. This seems to be a relatively new trend (albeit a rarely used one): editors wanting to mention many ratings in prose rather than starting with a ratings template. I don't think it's a helpful choice, but my guess is that it isn't wrong for, in this case, Justin, to decline to use one, just as it isn't against policy for another editor to decide eventually to shift up to 10 ratings to an added template. Caro7200 ( talk) 11:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
I have added several dozen (hundreds?) of sources to album articles where the critical reception puts it on best of lists. E.g. see the tables at The Greater Wings. I added a number of these today and Ariaslaga removed one as "fluff". If other users think these are inappropriate, I'm not going to keep on adding hundreds to just be removed and waste my time. Do others agree that this shouldn't be added? If others agree with me, then someone please undo this removal. Thanks. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 00:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beastie Boys Square - discussion is stagnant and needs further input. (While it's not explicitly an album, it is tied to one, as it's related to the cover of the album Paul's Boutique.)
Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 00:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing
WikiProject Albums and anything related to its purposes and tasks. |
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Albums Project‑class | |||||||
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WikiProject Albums was featured in a WikiProject Report in the Signpost on 11 July 2011. |
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2,
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5,
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9,
10 |
This page has archives. Sections older than 30 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 3 sections are present. |
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:And Here She Is ... Ann-Margret#Requested move 7 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Wikiexplorationandhelping ( talk) 14:19, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
I've noticed that the subcategories of Category:Albums by recording location are inconsistently labeled as {{ container cat}}s, e.g. Category:Live albums recorded in Australia and Category:Live albums recorded in Sydney both are while Category:Live albums recorded in Argentina and Category:Live albums recorded in Buenos Aires are not. Is there a reason for this discrepancy? Should they remain as such? Personally, I think album articles are already noticeably limited in the number of available categories they can be placed in compared to most other article types (most of the album articles I've created have 3-7), and it doesn't appear like it would hurt to open those up. I've been thinking recently about what additional album categories could be created because of this, and I think this could be a good place to start. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 21:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
This section of the guideline ( Wikipedia:Notability (music) § Future material) was boldly rewritten in August 2023 by Doomsdayer520. He opened this discussion on this WikiProject's talk page after making the changes. I disagree with the change to the guideline as it places several unnecessary conditions (such as a tracklist and cover art) on top of the notability requirements for other albums, and is one of the very few guidelines to exceed the requirements of the general notability guideline. The only similar guideline is the one for unreleased films, which requires the project to have begun principal photography. This is not comparable to the burden currently placed on unreleased albums; just in the last two weeks, I've dealt with multiple articles on albums that had plentiful significant coverage in sources, singles released in promotion, and pre-orders open, but had to be kept in draftspace due to the lack of tracklists.
I propose to rewrite this section without the stringent additional requirements or revert to its previous version. — TechnoSquirrel69 ( sigh) 04:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
So now that we have taken out the "importance" parameter (which I agree with) from this table at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums#Statistics, does anyone know if there is any way of modifying the table so that we only see the quality assessment in a single column, similar to that at WP:SONGS? It would be a lot better as the current table is a mess with all the red links. Richard3120 ( talk) 17:18, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Who Killed...... The Zutons?#Requested move 8 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 20:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Part One has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. – zmbro ( talk) ( cont) 16:48, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Is the recently top 100 albums from Apple Music allowed to be referenced in the pages of albums that made the list? Cahlin29 ( talk) 04:38, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
So the article on Patrick Moraz's first solo album is located at The Story of I, but for those of you who don't know, "The Story of I" is not the actual title of the album. In fact, while it is unquestionably the album's WP:COMMONNAME, the phrase "The Story of I" doesn't appear anywhere on the album or its original packaging, so I can only guess how anyone came up with it. The reason why people don't use the real title is more obvious: it's an unpronounceable symbol which doesn't appear on any conventional keyboard.
While the article's name is fine as it is (again, WP:COMMONNAME), it seems like the real title of the album should at least be mentioned in the article, but though I've seen articles use such non-standard symbols, I don't know how one goes about adding them. Can anyone help me here? (Also, if by chance someone has handy sourced info about how and why "The Story of I" became the generally understood title for the album, that would be terrific.) Martin IIIa ( talk) 15:41, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
I wanted to write stuff on a re-recorded album on my favourite band Coldrain who have just released a re-recorded Final Destination for its fifteenth anniversary. I wasn't sure if I was meant to add it to the original article or make it its article, per what's been done with Taylor Swift's re-releases. But I figured that was down to because there was so much information available on those re-recordings or whatnot. What is the general consensus for bands who do re-recordings of their albums? Make it their own article or just add it to the original article? A bit puzzled on what to do, and I can't find any information on this either so figured this is what I should have done by asking this question here, so sorry if it's not in the appropriate place. I would greatly appreciate a response, thanks. Rockmusicfanatic20 ( talk) 21:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Would Album of the Year (AOTY) be reliable as a critic aggregator? The website clearly separates professional critic reviews from user reviews. — 🌙Eclipse ( talk) ( contribs) 00:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Too Many Humans.....#Requested move 17 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 04:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Is this source acceptable as a WP:RS for album reviews? Here's a recent example. Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 11:08, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Related to this discussion--what's the best practice for an article like Ship to Shore? All the ratings are shoved in the prose, instead of using the ratings template, which seems like the worst of all options as it leads to a clunky and ugly section (in my opinion). I think the template is useful, but I've also declined to add it a few times, and just didn't mention ratings at all. Is this regarded as a personal, status quo editorial choice? Does the community have a policy if an editor chooses to add a template (I don't plan on it, but it seems inevitable)? Cheers to Justin and Martin (and the great Richard Thompson), just thought it was best to start here... Caro7200 ( talk) 22:09, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Il Mare Calmo della Sera#Requested move 27 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 00:10, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
To address issues with this article's length, I have opened a discussion at Talk:Illmatic#Split proposal that may be of interest to this WikiProject. — 🌙Eclipse ( talk) ( contribs) 01:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
As, uh, mentioned only slightly above this thread:
What's the best practice for an article like Ship to Shore? All the ratings are shoved in the prose, instead of using the ratings template, which seems like the worst of all options as it leads to a clunky and ugly section (in my opinion). I think the template is useful, but I've also declined to add it a few times, and just didn't mention ratings at all. Is this regarded as a personal, status quo editorial choice? Does the community have a policy if an editor chooses to add a template (I don't plan on it, but it seems inevitable)? Cheers to Justin and Martin (and the great Richard Thompson), just thought it was best to start here...
I think it's an issue that pertains to the entire project. This seems to be a relatively new trend (albeit a rarely used one): editors wanting to mention many ratings in prose rather than starting with a ratings template. I don't think it's a helpful choice, but my guess is that it isn't wrong for, in this case, Justin, to decline to use one, just as it isn't against policy for another editor to decide eventually to shift up to 10 ratings to an added template. Caro7200 ( talk) 11:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
I have added several dozen (hundreds?) of sources to album articles where the critical reception puts it on best of lists. E.g. see the tables at The Greater Wings. I added a number of these today and Ariaslaga removed one as "fluff". If other users think these are inappropriate, I'm not going to keep on adding hundreds to just be removed and waste my time. Do others agree that this shouldn't be added? If others agree with me, then someone please undo this removal. Thanks. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 00:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beastie Boys Square - discussion is stagnant and needs further input. (While it's not explicitly an album, it is tied to one, as it's related to the cover of the album Paul's Boutique.)
Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 00:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)