NRIS information issues identifies possible errors and other issues in the
National Register Information System (NRIS) database. This is a working page to detail information system glitches, factual inconsistencies, and potential factual errors in official information regarding properties and districts listed on the
National Register of Historic Places of the United States. It is hoped that this recording may facilitate discussion, correspondence with the National Park Service/National Register, and corrections.
Please do not include here what appear to be errors at nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com — that site contains many errors, especially in its consistently yielding area figures for historic districts that are ten times the actual size. This is the result of that website misinterpreting the data from the NRIS.
Types of issues
Discrepances between NRIS database as downloaded vs. "Weekly Listings" announcements
For example, for
James H. Bounds Barn, in Marshall County, Oklahoma, the only item covering it in NRIS2013a version, as reported in NRHP infobox generator (by checking off "may not actually be listed" checkbox), which actually is supposted to cover up to September 30, 2014 afaik, is just an "DR" entry, which i think means some documentation is received, and it reflects the assignment of a reference number. It does NOT include the actual listing in December 2013 as reported in the Weekly Listings announcment (
"Weekly listings".
National Park Service. December 27, 2013. ) and reported in the Featured listing announcement for this site (
"James H. Bounds Barn". Retrieved October 1, 2019. ). This later listing does use the same reference number. I think the NRIS2013a database somehow has just the initial, "DR" event. Do later versions of NRIS have both or does the actual listing replace the "DR" event?
In Wikipedia, the
National Register of Historic Places listings in Marshall County, Oklahoma page was updated by User:Ebyabe and User:Ipoellet to reflect the December 2013 announcements (and even to add coordinates based on consulting the NRHP registration document and using Google satellite view, I assume). I am afraid there is a discrepancy now between what Wikipedia shows (including this item) vs. what NRIS might show (not including it). --
Doncram (
talk) 21:49, 1 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Changes implemented into NRIS directly, adjusting previous items, not reflected in any "Weekly Listings" announcement
There are several known instances of National Park Service making "corrections" by simply adjusting NRIS, but not reporting on that change by including it into a new Weekly announcement list, confound Wikipedia's coverage, which follows the weekly announcements. Some of these have been covered in
wt:NRHP discussion previously. --
Doncram (
talk) 21:49, 1 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Demolished properties apparently still listed
In many cases a building remains listed on the National Register even though the building was completely demolished. There may be a few cases where the National Register gives a street address where there is no building, while in fact the building still exists. It could be the wrong address, or in rare cases the historic building may have been moved to a different location, as happened for one case in Pasadena, California.
doncram (
talk) 20:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC)reply
The NRIS is an authoritative source on NRHP listing dates, but even in this topic there are issues:
this discussion "Shortest time on Register" at wt:NRHP details a good number of listings for January 1, 19XX of various years that really apparently mean "some unknown date in the year 19XX". --
doncram 18:11, 6 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Not sure how to further research and/or submit this one.
doncram (
talk) 20:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Coordinates corrections
NOTE: COORDINATES CORRECTIONS probably are not worth noting here. See discussion at
#Connecticut: coordinates
Correspondence with the National Register
The National Register has previously corrected NRIS or related webpages in response to error reports on other occasions. For example, an incorrect URL in the current Weekly Listings National Register's "Weekly Featured Listing" , at
http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/nrlist.htm, was fixed today, on Wednesday September 3. Or at least it was fixed, and I received an email reporting it today. This was in response to a report I sent in during the weekend (and Monday was a holiday too).
doncram (
talk) 18:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Also, the National Park Service has corrected other information, such as an incorrect address for a building in Syracuse, apparently reported after a photo of the building at that address was posted in wikipedia. And it addressed a mis-identification of the wrong building in New York City (
Florence Mills House) as a National Historic Landmark, by de-designating the building and removing it from the National Register on January 16, 2009.
Six batches of information issues identified here have so far been reported to the National Register. The first batch was 20 items submitted by email, an edited version of the working page shown at
Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/NRIS information issues Batch report No. 1. I'll report here how it goes. So far NR acknowledged receipt and asked a question or two, but has not reported making any changes to NRIS yet.
doncram (
talk) 21:45, 1 March 2009 (UTC)reply
The NR_RT reports has reviewed those 20, has submitted fixes to be input into NRIS for 19 of them. I note which those are, below. While the changes will be input into NRIS shortly, the NRIS database is only republished a few times per year, so it is not yet known when the fixes will be apparent on-line. They prefer to get error reports batched by state, to facilitate checking with the state in cases needing that. I'll submit more batches by state.
doncram (
talk) 00:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)reply
I've now submitted six batches
batch01: 20 name issues
batch02: 45 coordinates issues
batch03: 73 name issues
batch04: 29 town issues
batch05: 19 county issues
batch06: 26 street address issues
I think that totals to 214 items reported.
doncram (
talk) 21:42, 6 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Update, April 27, 2009: The National Register has verified 66 corrections needed, based on our reports, and is implementing those. Further corrections being researched. Their internal Word document covering the 66 is in tabular format, with column headings "State", "RefNo", "Property name", "Typo", "Correction", and another column for their use. It would probably be most helpful if we presented new batches in that tabular format.
doncram (
talk) 19:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Update: on September 3, I received an update that they are addressing batch04 now, and hope to do another batch before the end of this month. It is slow going, but I believe they appreciate our efforts to identify corrections and will eventually respond to all that we submit.
doncram (
talk) 00:03, 7 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Batch07 to address issues accumulated for state of Ohio alone, of all types of issues noted for NRHP listings in the state. See
wp:NRIS info issues OH, the split-out Ohio-only issues subpage.
doncram (
talk) 16:10, 12 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Van Gilder Hotel (Seward, Kenai Peninsula Borough): Address in the NRIS is 307 Adams Street. It should be
308 Adams Street. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 20:27, 26 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Rika's Landing Roadhouse in Big Delta is listed at mile 252 on the Richardson Highway;
this state webpage lists it at mile 274.5.
Nyttend (
talk) 14:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Alaska: demolished but still listed
Rose Building (Fairbanks, Alaska), NRHP-listed in 1992, reported by editor RadioKAOS to have been demolished, and that the address no longer exists even due to moving of another road. Source cited about the demolition: "Historic Rose building disappears from corner" was published in the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner on September 13, 1998 on page B1. --
doncram 22:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)reply
"Liston Ranger Rear Light Station" includes a typo. "Ranger" is a typo, should be "Range" instead. Note the similarly named NRHP-listed "Liston Range Front Lighthouse" has the word correctly spelled. See
Liston Range Rear Light and
Liston Range Front Light wikipedia articles. --
doncram 19:58, 8 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Achmester is said to be on "Route 429 one mile east of Route 896". Delaware seems to have vastly reduced the use of state route numbers of late, and it's possible the reference to Route 896 was always wrong (though it might have been double-posted with US 301 at one time). At any rate the house is now on Marl Pit Road, east of US 301.
Mangoe (
talk) 13:33, 15 February 2013 (UTC)reply
Delaware: county location issues
Mount Pleasant (Smyrna) and Savin-Wilson House are listed in the NRIS database as in New Castle County. Based on the location descriptions and the geocode coords, both are in Kent County. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 05:08, 13 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Albert Ely Ives and "DeArmond, Asmead and Bickley". The latter is correctly named
DeArmond, Ashmead and Bickley, with correct "Ashmead" rather than "Asmead". The NRIS entry is based on typo in the NRHP nomination document (
https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/98001098_text) that gives incorrect spelling in one place but gives correct spelling elsewhere. Correct spelling confirmed by sources of the wikipedia article on the architectural firm. --
doncram 03:52, 5 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Rosemere Historic District in Orlando is listed as being "Roughly by E. Harvard St., N. Orange Ave., Cornell Ave. & E. Vanderbilt St." — need to add "bounded" after "Roughly".
Nyttend (
talk) 22:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)reply
North Shore Historic District in Miami Beach is listed as being "Roughly by 87th St., Collins Ave., 73rd., and Hawthorne Ave." — need to add "bounded" after "Roughly".
Nyttend (
talk) 22:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Normandy Isles Historic District in Miami Beach is listed as being "Roughly by Normandy Shores Golf Course, Indian Creek, Biscayne Bay, Rue Versailles, 71st., Rue Notre Dame" — need to add "bounded" after "Roughly".
Nyttend (
talk) 22:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Dr. Price House in Live Oak; The address is listed as being at 702 Pine Avenue, but the given coordinates mark it as being at 710-712 Park Street. ----DanTD 15:12, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
Old Deerfield School. NRIS lists 323 NE 2nd St, but actual address (including on the nomination form) is 232 NE 2nd St. kennethaw88 •
talk 19:04, 28 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Homestead Public School-Neva King Cooper School. NRIS lists 520 NW 1st Street, but the correct address is 520 NW 1st Avenue (both streets exist, so there is potential confusion). However, the current school uses the address 151 NW 5th Street. kennethaw88 •
talk 23:15, 30 April 2016 (UTC)reply
The
Lochsa Historical Ranger Station is located on a highway, the
Lewis and Clark Highway. It is open as a museum. In 2010 version of NRIS, it is address restricted. Since its location is public, the location should no longer be regarded as "address restricted". --
doncram 16:24, 30 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Idaho: addresses
Mountain Home Carnegie Library (refnum=78001061) is incorrectly listed in NRIS version 2013a as being at 180 S. 33rd St., East, in
Mountain Home, Idaho. Per Google maps and per its NRHP registration document is it located 180 S. 3rd East.--
Doncram (
talk) 15:01, 15 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Buster Meat Market, which was located at about 250 Main Ave in Challis, no longer existed by 2008, per note at
National Register of Historic Places listings in Custer County, Idaho. It was a one-story stone building like Challis Cold Storage (located at about 300 Main Ave), and I wonder if it was destroyed in the same earthquake, or demolished soon after. The Challis Cold Storage collapse killed two children, apparently, and this might have posed similar danger. --
doncram 14:13, 8 October 2017 (UTC)reply
The
Alvin Eskelton Barn, located northwest of Richfield, Idaho in
Lincoln County, Idaho, built around 1918, listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1983, appears to have been destroyed, per Google and Bing satellite views in 2019. --
Doncram (
talk) 13:55, 3 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Methodist Episcopal Church (Emmett, Idaho), refnum = 80001326, built in 1906. It has also been known as the United Methodist Church. It was located at 132 S. Washington Ave, at 1st St., in Emmett. But the building no longer exists; a modern
True Value Hardware store is now at that address. (per Google Streetview, imagery captured August 2018, accessed November 2019.). --
Doncram (
talk) 22:44, 15 November 2019 (UTC)reply
Priestly's Hydraulic Ram, refnum 75000631, in Idaho. As explained in its article, this apparently no longer exists:
Idaho Power Company senior
archaeologist Shane Baker said: "It may have been taken apart and salvaged for parts. Or moved somewhere else, or perhaps abandoned in place. To my knowledge, no one has ever found any remnants of the facility. The exact location for the ram is unknown, and it may be possible that the first hydroelectric plant built at Thousand Springs in 1912 may have been built over top of the location of the old ram." ( Virginia Hutchins; Tetona Dunlap (June 26, 2016).
"Expert's guide to the Hagerman reach: part 1". MagicValley.Com. )
McCall District Administrative Site is listed in the NRIS database as in Payette County. McCall and the location described in the listing are in Valley County. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 07:16, 18 April 2010 (UTC)reply
There are more usages of Nisbet than Nesbit in NRIS2013a, and the usage of "Nesbit" in NRHP documents can be understood as accidental, where the nominator did not have familiarity with the architect. For example the
Kimberly High School NRHP document is a case where the name is given once only in the "architect/builder" field in section 8, and not used otherwise; the NRHP document author did not show (and did not need to show) familiarity with this architect, so easily could get the spelling wrong. And same for
the NRHP document for Sterry Hall. On the other hand, the
NRHP document for Payettes Lakes Club, which provides biographical information and career overview for the person, consistently uses name "Nisbet" 11 times. "Nisbet" is used in at least 6 NRHP listings, including for example,
NRHP document for Harrison Boulevard Historic District where it is used twice. It is clear to me that "Nisbet" is the correct spelling. --
Doncram (
talk) 00:27, 15 November 2019 (UTC)reply
Idaho: architectural style
Jose and Gertrude Anasola House is recorded in NRIS as having Colonial Revival style, but that is incorrect. Per its Idaho State Historical Society inventory document, it is a lava rock structure build for relatively poor Basque people that is mentioned to be "boxy" in a way vaguely reminiscent of Colonial Revival style appearing in wood frame houses of the wealthy non-Basque in the area. That is far from saying this is Colonial Revival! --
doncram 15:25, 11 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Conant Creek Pegram Truss Railroad Bridge, near
Grainville, Idaho, built in 1894, refnum = 97000756, has incorrect architecture description. It is described in NRIS2013a as a "Pregram through truss bridge", which is incorrect. It is NOT a
through truss bridge. It could accurately be described as a
Pregram truss bridge. The incorrect statement appears to be an NRIS data entry error. --
Doncram (
talk) 23:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Benjamin Watlington House, 206 W. Court St.,
Weiser, Idaho, refnum 91000458, is recorded in NRIS2013a as having "Second Empire" style, but the registration document does not mention the term, calling it "Queen Anne" instead. --
Doncram (
talk) 03:33, 17 January 2020 (UTC)reply
In Shelby County,
Chautauqua Auditorium is listed by NRIS as
Chatauqua Auditorium, an obvious misspelling, since all local and state sources show it spelled correctly Chautauqua Auditorium. I created an article with the right name
Chautauqua Auditorium (Shelbyville, Illinois), with a redirect from the misspelled name. I also moved the existing Chautauqua Auditorium article in order to create a disambiguation page.
clariosophic (
talk) 09:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)reply
It's
Alternate Route 66, Wilmington to Joliet, in Joliet, IL, not "Alternate Route 66, Wilmington to Joilet" in "Joilet", IL. Error in listing name and in town name, both should show "Joliet" rather than typo "Joilet". --
doncram (
talk) 04:32, 31 July 2010 (UTC)reply
The
Berleman House in Edwardsville, IL, is listed in the NRIS as the "Berlemann House", which contradicts its nomination form.
TheCatalyst31Reaction•
Creation 11:19, 22 February 2014 (UTC)reply
"The
Stephenson County Courthouse that was listed on the NRHP isn't standing any longer, in fact it was replaced decades ago. The Register just missed it, Illinois' IHPA, the state preservation office, does not list it in its NRHP properties for Stephenson County....I can provide links above if needed but the photographic evidence compiled at
Category:Soldiers' Monument (Freeport, Illinois) shows the location of the old courthouse and illustrates that it is no longer there. The current courthouse was built in the mid-1970s and per NRHP rules would be ineligible for listing, so there's no chance that is the building the NPS listing is referring to. The old courthouse was quite beautiful, I have seen photos, but it is, alas, gone forever." --Noted by
IvoShandor at
Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Stephenson County, Illinois (exerpt of IvoShandor's comments copied here by doncram)
Chris Jensen Round Barn: "In addition, I am almost 100% positive the Chris Jensen Round Barn is no longer standing. If it is it is NOT at the location the NRHP lists. I used the location map included with the nomination materials in my search for it. I found every single other listed round barn in Stephenson County but could not find the Jensen Round Barn. There's a chance it's overgrown, or part of it is standing in its location. If anyone has any information to confirm my first-hand (original) research please note it here. For now I am going to leave it listed. The IHPA informed me that they are trying to alleviate some of the problems in the HAARGIS database which lists on the NRHP properties with links to their nomination materials, so maybe when those changes go online the updated list will reflect its loss. If it was delisted, the NPS would have documentation of that somewhere.--
IvoShandor (
talk) 07:17, 24 July 2009 (UTC)" --Noted by
IvoShandor at
Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Stephenson County, Illinois (exerpt of IvoShandor's comments copied here by doncram)reply
Jewel Tea Company Building in Barrington, Lake County was torn down in Feb. 2005 according to a local newspaper article online (actually it said the entire facade was torn down, and that demolition continues, despite last minute efforts...) I visited the site today and will get photos of the empty lot.
Smallbones (
talk) 20:56, 29 January 2010 (UTC)reply
In Lake County,
Lloyd Lewis House was shown in the Wikipedia NRHP list for Lake County (and therefore presumably is listed by NRIS) at "153 Little Street Mary". The correct street name (shown on Google Maps, among other sources) is "Little St. Mary's Road". "St." does not always equal "Street" in an address. I changed it.
Jameslwoodward (
talk) 11:35, 26 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Bell Miller Apartments, 835 S. Second St., Springfield, IL. Springfield is spelled "Spingfield" in NRIS database. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 06:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)reply
James S. Thompson House, 807 North Street New Boston IL. In the database the address temporarily showed up as 408 E. Jefferson Street on 2/9/15. Also, the current address is listed at 804 North St, which needs to be changed as the address was changed by the state. (This was noticed at
this AfD.)
Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 06:00, 10 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Illinois: county location issues
Stone Arch Bridge, Danville, Illinois is listed in the NRIS as in Jersey County. It's in Vermilion County.
[1] --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 21:52, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Illinois: architect, builder, engineer issues
Five NRIS listings give incorrect architect name "Joseph F. Booten" when the correct spelling is "Joseph F. Booton", as documented in
https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/64000178_text the corresponding MPS / TR document. Change from "Booten" to "Booton" in architect name for each of:
The NRIS lists a "State Steet Bridge" in
Erie, Kansas, acknowledging that it's on "State St. over Neosho River tributary" — plainly a simple typo for "State Street Bridge".
Nyttend (
talk) 04:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)reply
submitted in batch01:15, reported by NRHP_RT to be fixing in NRIS as of 3/4/2009.
doncram (
talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)reply
"Northup Theater" in Syracuse — according to a sign in front of the theater (
picture), it's spelled "Northrup", with two "r"s.
Nyttend (
talk) 11:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Cato District No. 4 School in rural
Crawford County, Kansas is listed at 720th Avenue and 200th Street in Cato: these two roads don't meet. Check Google Maps to follow Highway 69 north from
Pittsburg until it meets 720th, and you'll see that 720th Avenue doesn't exist between 180th and 210th Streets. On the other hand, the same address appears at
this Kansas State Historical Society page, which includes a picture and a short description of the school. I wonder if it's perhaps shown on the Mapquest aerial photo map: go to
this Mapquest page, scroll southward along 200th a couple of miles after it bends eastward and then southward again; the site I'm wondering about is the buildings just south of point where it turns directly southward again, where you can see a few buildings on both sides of the road (almost where the two roads would meet if they continued). Elkman doesn't list the school in the county table generator, while plugging the ID number (06000771) into the infobox generator gives no coords, and the resulting page says "Note: This property may not actually be listed on the National Register - listing code is DR". The Wisconsin Historical Society has a copy of the 8 September 2006 listings
here, which includes the school, but the
official listings page doesn't have it. I'm rather confused; hopefully this explains the situation well.
Nyttend (
talk) 00:55, 23 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Jewell County Jail: location is given on the nom form as "Northeast corner of Center and Madison". In fact, it's at the southwest corner of that intersection: see
photo including street sign, noting direction of shadows on a photo taken close to noon.
Ammodramus (
talk) 14:43, 8 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Midland Hotel in Wilson, Ellsworth County: address is given on nom form as "414 26th Avenue". It should be "414 26th Street": see
"Contact Us" at
Midland Railroad Hotel website; ground-truthing confirms that in Wilson, streets are numbered while avenues are lettered, e.g. "Avenue E".
Ammodramus (
talk) 03:06, 5 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Thornburg Barn (refnum 09000192), in Ness County, is described at the NRIS page as being "1.5 mi. W. of D Rd." According to the nom form, verified by ground-truthing, it's 0.5 miles west of D Rd.
Ammodramus (
talk) 15:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Atchison Post Office (refnum 72000484) in Atchison is listed as being at "621 Kansas St." It's actually 621 Kansas Ave.
Ammodramus (
talk) 17:42, 3 April 2015 (UTC)reply
McInteer Villa (refnum 75000707) in Atchison is listed as being at "1301 Kansas St."; it's actually 1301 Kansas Ave.
Ammodramus (
talk) 17:57, 3 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Arthur Larkin House near
Ellsworth, Kansas is identified in NRIS and its 1974 NRHP documentation as being "0.25 miles south of Ellsworth off
K-45. K-45 no longer exists as a numbered highway; the house's address is now 1126 Hwy 14, Ellsworth, KS 67439 (per Google Maps). --
Doncram (
talk) 16:46, 22 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Kansas: existing property, once listed, but no longer appearing in NRIS
East Riley Creek Bridge in Republic County, Kansas. The Elkman tool returns a note: "This property may not actually be listed on the National Register - listing code is DR". The property appears in the
Weekly Listings for 1990; it was listed Jan 4, 1990, but appears in the weekly list for for May 11, 1990. There is no sign that it's been delisted: it appears in the NPS Focus website, under Republic County; it's listed on the Kansas Historical Society's
Historic Places in Republic County page; and recent photographs show no sign of removal or significant degradation (see
Commons:Category:East Riley Creek Bridge on Queen (Republic County, Kansas) for photos). --
Ammodramus (
talk) 14:03, 19 December 2010 (UTC)reply
Kansas: architect/builder issues
Comanche County Courthouse (Kansas), refnum 02000395, was designed by
Routledge & Hertz. Architect misspelled in NRIS 2010a as "Routletge". (Note the name of the site was misspelled as "Comache County Courthouse" also, as noted above). --
doncram 14:57, 2 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Fred G. McCune is NRIS-listed as architect of 2 buildings;
Fred C. McCune is listed for 2 other buildings. One spelling is incorrect. --
doncram 22:35, 19 November 2017 (UTC)reply
Johnson's Chapel AME Church appears to have been lost; a 2014 photo shows a new First Baptist Church was built on its site. --
Doncram (
talk) 17:44, 24 November 2017 (UTC)reply
Yatesville Covered Bridge (refnum 76000910) included in NRIS2013a no longer exists, per LandmarkHunter and per Google satellite view. --
Doncram (
talk) 22:23, 8 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Audubon School, refnum 98001497, at 1400 Clay St. in
Henderson, Kentucky, in Henderson County. Was standing in 2019 Google Streetview imagery, has been demolished by 2022 from satellite imagery. --
Doncram (
talk) 12:48, 23 August 2022 (UTC)reply
submitted in batch01:18. NRHP_RT reports that apparently the length of the property name is more than the NRIS system handles properly, so this may not be fixed, 3/4/2009.
doncram (
talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)reply
The full name of the racetrack
Keeneland is not "Keeeneland--Keeneland Racetrack". From looking at the nom formhttps://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NHLS/86003487_text, it appears the form was filled out incorrectly by putting the "common" name on the same line as the "historic" name.
NiagaraDon't give up the ship 00:12, 2 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Monsieur Giron's Confectionery is spelled correctly with "confectionery" in its NRHP application, but a typo was introduced in NRIS where it is listed as "Monsieur Giron's Confectionary". Noted by
User:Tamanoeconomico who created the article. --
Doncram (
talk) 04:52, 5 May 2019 (UTC)reply
NRIS has it recorded garbled up as something like "James–Trotter Lindsay, William, House" while it needs to be
James Lindsay--William Trotter House. See the NRHP document, a Kentucky Historic Resources Inventory form at
here. --
Doncram (
talk) 23:24, 24 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Louisville Municipal Bridge, Pylons and Administration Building, Spans Ohio River between Louisville, KY and Jeffersonville, IN: Listed in the NRIS database as in Louisville, KY (Jefferson County) and Clark County, KY. It should be Clark County, IN which is on the other side of the Ohio River from Louisville. Clark County, KY is about 100 miles to the east. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 03:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Central Kentucky Blue Grass Seed Co., at 321 Henry St.,
Lexington, Kentucky, was listed August 03, 2005 and has refnum = 0500079. It doesn't appear in Elkman's county-list-table generator for Fayette County, KY. Since it is in Lexington, which is in (and the same as) Fayette County, it seems the NRIS county identifier for it must be off. Don't know what it indicates. The Elkman NRHP infobox output does not include county.
doncram (
talk) 21:04, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Kentucky: address restricted unnecessarily, doc should be made available
Raccoon John Smith House, for which
NARA says doc is Fully restricted, but it is on a public street and the address is known. Doc Not available at NPS. Is there any reason why the documentation of why this is NRHP-listed should not be publicly available? --
Doncram (
talk) 00:45, 6 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Kentucky: address issues
Erlanger Proper Subdivision Historic District is listed as being "Roughly bounded by by Hulbert, Division, Crescent, Dixie, and Graves." Correct the "by by" error, and remove the unnecessary period from the end of the description.
Nyttend (
talk) 22:17, 26 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Jewish Hospital Complex is listed at 236 E. Kennedy St., but there is no E. Kennedy St. in Louisville. The geocode coordinates in the NRIS database correspond to 236 E. Kentucky St. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 20:54, 7 April 2012 (UTC)reply
J. Hawkins Hart House is listed at "630 St." in NRIS2013a; its actual street address is 630 Center St., per its NRHP document. --
Doncram (
talk) 04:14, 16 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Lost Horse Fireman's Cabin, refnum 88003437, in Ravalli County is listed in NRIS2013a as "Lost Horse Fireman's Cabin (24RA197)". The
NRHP nomination document shows the number should be an alternate name, not part of the actual main name.--
Doncram (
talk) 22:50, 7 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Eureka Community Hall - looks like the wrong westerly coordinate. 116 degrees puts it barely in the county / state in the middle of a forest and not reachable by roads. The community of
Eureka, Montana is at 115 degrees, putting the community center in the edge of the community. Royalbroil 03:17, 13 August 2013 (UTC)reply
The
Hester E. Suydam Boarding House, at 209 W. River St. in
Fromberg, Montana, built in 1907 is recorded in NRIS as having architecture: Four Square. That is consistent with a note in its registration document, but the building does not appear to be
American Four Square at all. It is not square. It does not have four-way or any type of symmetry. It does have dormer windows, which is common in the style, but it has two on one side and one on another, as can be seen in nomination photos. The text of the document does not mention "Four Square", it only appears as a database-type entry for "Architectural Classification" as "Other: One-and-one-half story Four Square" (which appears to be wrong). Also the text description calls it a two-story building with a one-and-a-half-story extension, also inconsistent there. So, the Wikipedia article now carries no mention of "Four Square"; it should be dropped from NRIS. --
Doncram (
talk) 20:17, 6 September 2019 (UTC)reply
The
Algernon S. Paddock House in Beatrice, Gage County, Nebraska, is no longer extant. According to a personal communication from Audrey Mohr at the Nebraska State Historical Society, it was "demolished in 1994 and offically removed from the National Register in 2005". However, it still appears at the Focus site.
Ammodramus (
talk) 17:27, 26 March 2012 (UTC)reply
Big Papilion Creek Bridge in Sarpy County, Nebraska has apparently been removed and replaced. The
nom form describes and depicts a steel pony truss bridge. The current bridge on the site is a concrete beam bridge: see
photo at Commons. According to
uglybridges.com, the current bridge was built in 2000.
Ammodramus (
talk) 13:00, 21 September 2012 (UTC)reply
Adamson Bridge in Cherry County, Nebraska, has apparently been removed and replaced. The current Nebraska Highway 97 crossing is a concrete beam bridge: see
photo at Commons. According to
uglybridges.com, it was built in 1994. Google's satellite photo shows no other bridge in the vicinity; it appears that there may once have been a bridge about 1000 ft upstream from the current bridge. The Adamson Bridge does not appear on the Nebraska State Historical Society's list of
"Nebraska National Register Sites in Cherry County".
Ammodramus (
talk) 19:16, 26 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Bridge (refnum 92000761) in Gage County, Nebraska is apparently no longer extant. The bridge is described as crossing Sicily Creek, and the description and photos indicate a pony truss; both the UTM coordinates and the township-range-section information in the nominating form place it on SW 45th Rd. The bridge that presently carries SW 45th across Sicily Creek is a beam bridge: see photos at
Commons:Category:Sicily Creek SW 45th Rd bridges (Gage County, Nebraska). According to
uglybridges.com, the current bridge was built in 2003.
Ammodramus (
talk) 19:05, 27 June 2013 (UTC)reply
Wyoming Bridge in Otoe County, Nebraska is apparently no longer extant. UTM coordinates and township-range-section description in nominating form concur in placing it on county road 60. The current crossing of Wyoming Creek on CR60 is a beam bridge; the
uglybridges.com website gives its date as 2003. Photos of the current bridge are at
Commons:Category:Wyoming Creek bridge, CR 60, Otoe County, Nebraska. In photographing the current bridge in June 2013, the photographer looked up- and downstream from it, and saw no sign of an older bridge, nor any indication that the road once crossed at another point nearby on the creek. The bridge is not listed at the Nebraska State Historical Society's
"Nebraska National Register Sites in Otoe County" webpage; a Wayback Machine check indicated that it was listed on the page as of June 1, 2002, suggesting that it was deliberately removed and not accidentally omitted.
Ammodramus (
talk) 14:33, 17 July 2013 (UTC)reply
McCartney School District 17 in Otoe County, Nebraska, has apparently been removed or demolished. The
NRHP nominating form lists a single contributing building, a red brick schoolhouse, with no contributing objects or structures. June 2013 photos of the site, available at
Commons:Category:McCartney School District 17 (Otoe County, Nebraska), show no such building; a basketball hoop and a pump visible in the photos are mentioned in the nom form, but not listed as contributing. A
July 14, 2009 article in the Nebraska City News-Press recounts the Nebraska City School Board's decision to sell the property.
Ammodramus (
talk) 15:11, 17 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Ponca Creek Bridge (refnum 92000769) in Boyd County is apparently no longer extant. See
photo of bridge currently at the crossing. According to
uglybridges.com, the current bridge was built in 1994. When I visited the site in 2016, I couldn't see any signs of an older bridge up- or downstream from the current one. —
Ammodramus (
talk) 12:53, 18 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Burwell Bridge, built in 1940, 24 feet wide, was replaced in 2007 by a bridge that is generally similar but is 44 feet wide, and photos in 2010 clearly differ from the NRHP photo. Uglybridges.com site pointed out by Ammodramus reports the 2007 info. --
doncram 23:43, 13 May 2017 (UTC)reply
For the Miller Hotel in
Brown County, Nebraska, the list of other names includes "Luerhs Rooming House". This should almost certainly be "Luehrs": see
photo. A Google search suggests that the name "Luehrs" occurs in the
Long Pine, Nebraska area; "Luerhs" apparently does not.
The Massow, Joachim--Schultz, Charles and Annie, House in Otoe County, Nebraska appears to be misspelled: it should be "Schutz" instead of "Schultz". The name is spelled "Schutz" at the Nebraska State Historical Society's
"Nebraska National Register Sites in Otoe County" webpage, and throughout the
nom form. The site doesn't appear at Focus, but it's spelled "Schultz" in the
September 7, 2012 weekly list.
Ammodramus (
talk) 15:55, 22 July 2013 (UTC)reply
W.F. Hitchcock House is correct as name, per the NRHP nomination document. It is listed as "W.F. Hitchcok House" in NRIS2013a. --
Doncram (
talk) 10:00, 19 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Red Cloud Bridge in Webster County is listed as being on Nebraska Highway 281, but it's actually U.S. Route 281.
Nyttend (
talk) 23:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)reply
Starke Round Barn near Red Cloud is listed as being on U.S. Route 163, but it's actually U.S. Route 136.
Nyttend (
talk) 03:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)reply
Humphrey City Hall in Humphrey is listed as being at 407 S. 4th St. It's actually in the 100 block of S. 4th St. There's no address on the building.
Ammodramus (
talk) 17:53, 29 October 2009 (UTC)reply
Columbia Hall (Dannebrog, Nebraska) in Howard County is listed as being at "Jct. of NE 58 and W. Roger Wetsch Ave." There are two issues here. First, the name of the avenue is misspelt: it should be "Roger Welsch Ave." Second, Roger Welsch Ave. is the name given to NE 58 in its passage through Dannebrog: so this "junction" is about a quarter-mile long. A better description would be "intersection of Roger Welsch Ave. and Mill St."
Ammodramus (
talk) 20:47, 6 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Cather House in Red Cloud (Webster County) is listed as being at "SW corner of 3rd and Cedar Sts.". It's actually at the SW corner of 3rd Avenue and Cedar Street: see
this photo.
Miner Brothers Store in Red Cloud (Webster County) is listed as being at "3rd and Webster Sts." It's actually at the NW corner of 3rd Avenue and Webster Street.
Hastings Municipal Airport Hangar-Building No. 1 in Hastings (Adams County) is listed as being at 3100 E. Twelfth Street. It's actually at 3100 W. Twelfth Street. The West Twelfth address appears on the Nebraska State Historical Society's online
nomination form, and was confirmed by ground truthing.
Ammodramus (
talk) 16:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Rackett Grange Hall No. 318 in Garden County, Nebraska, is listed as being at "9250 NE 193". 193 is a county road, not a Nebraska highway; the correct address, as given on the nom form and verified by ground-truthing, is "9250 Road 193".
Ammodramus (
talk) 13:41, 8 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Edgar A. Burnett House in Lancaster County, Nebraska, is listed as being at "3256 Holdrede Street". The correct spelling of the street, as given in the
nom form, is "Holdrege".
Ammodramus (
talk) 04:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC)reply
The
States Ballroom in
Bee in
Seward County, Nebraska is listed as being "Off Nebraska Highway 415". There are two problems with this. First, Nebraska Highway 415 doesn't exist; the village of Bee is about a mile east of Nebraska Highway 15, which is probably what was meant. Second, this is not a very precise address; within Bee, according to Google Maps, the ballroom is at the northeast corner of 2nd and Elm Streets.
Ammodramus (
talk) 04:23, 23 February 2012 (UTC)reply
Immaculate Conception Church and School in Omaha, Douglas County, Nebraska, is listed as being at 1024 S. 24th Street. The church's address is actually 2708 S. 24th Street (see
church's website). The school's address is 2716 S. 24th Street (see
photo). The address appears incorrectly in the nom form.
Ammodramus (
talk) 18:38, 28 March 2012 (UTC)reply
Nehawka Public Library in Nehawka, Cass County, Nebraska, is listed as being at the southeast corner of Elm and Master Streets. It's actually at the southeast corner of Elm and Maple: see
photo. The address appears incorrectly in the nom form.
Ammodramus (
talk) 20:11, 19 April 2012 (UTC)reply
There are two issues with the
James and Margaret Greer Farmstead in Cass County, Nebraska. First, it is listed as being at "6135 202nd St." The actual address is 6315 202nd St. (see
photo of address sign). The address appears incorrectly on the first page of the
nom form, but correctly on p. 16, under "Property Owner". Second, the property is missing from the NRHP Focus website; the Walker Gilmore Site (22CC28), which immediately precedes it alphabetically, is listed twice for Cass County.
Ammodramus (
talk) 17:54, 16 July 2012 (UTC)reply
Gehling's Theatre in Falls City, Richardson County, Nebraska, is listed as being at "1592 Stone St." The actual address is 1519 Stone St. The address appears incorrectly on the
nom form, which shows the building's present-day use as a True Value hardware store; the correct address is given at the
Falls City True Value website.
Ammodramus (
talk) 02:16, 11 June 2013 (UTC)reply
Bloody Run Bridge in Gage County has been moved from its original site; according to personnel at the Gage County Historical Society Museum, it is now serving as a footbridge at Big Blue Water Park in Beatrice, Nebraska. The new location is (40.262093,-96.737572). According to
uglybridges.com, the bridge now at the Bloody Run site was built in 1994.
Ammodramus (
talk) 19:40, 27 June 2013 (UTC)reply
US Post Office-Hebron in Thayer County is incorrectly listed as being at "145 North 15th Street. This incorrect address appears on the first page of the nom form; however, the second page gives the location as "the southwest corner of 5th and Olive Streets". The
U.S. Postal Service's locator tool gives the address as "145 N 5th Street". —
Ammodramus (
talk) 22:35, 24 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Sacred Heart Catholic Church (Omaha, Nebraska), designed by
Fisher & Lawrie in North Omaha, Nebraska, is listed in NRIS as having architect "Fisher & Laurie". The correct spelling is "Fisher & Lawrie". There are multiple other NRIS listings having "Fisher & Lawrie". --
doncram 15:23, 28 September 2012 (UTC)reply
Old Fremont Post Office's architect was
W.J. Edbrooke. However the NRIS database shows W.J. Edbrook, repeating the "W.J. Edbrook" mentioned just once in the NRHP nomination document. However that was clearly a typo in the NRHP nomination. The architect of many similar buildings of the era is quite well known and the correct spelling includes the ending "e". --
Doncram (
talk) 00:53, 21 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Red Cloud United States Post Office, at 300 N. Webster in
Red Cloud, Nebraska, built in 1941 in
Moderne style, includes 3 murals by
Archie Musick. NRIS however mentions lists
William E.L. Bunn, an artist who did different post offices' murals including at least one other Nebraska one, as a builder/architect/other associated person. The name appears in the NRHP nomination doc, but that appears to be an error, as if the form was partially filled out for a different post office. There is no mention of this post office in other coverage of Bunn, as far as I can tell. The site was listed on the
National Register of Historic Places in 1992 as U.S. Post Office-Red Cloud, with refnum = 92000474. I removed mention of Bunn from its article. --
Doncram (
talk) 02:50, 7 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Further, looking now at the MPS document by Carol Ahlgren, it is completely clear that Bunn did not have association with Red Cloud post office. And Ahlgren was author of each of the individual post office nomination documents I think, and she authored the MPS document about the group, so it seems certain she or her typist just made an error in document preparation for the Red Cloud one. The MPS is:
The date of construction for
Webster County Courthouse (Nebraska) is given as 1883. The nominating form lists two significant dates: 1914, the year of construction of the courthouse itself; and 1887, the year of construction of the jail and jailer's residence. The latter date on the nominating form, which I obtained from the Nebraska State Historical Society, was apparently typed with a different typewriter; it's possible that the form as originally submitted to the NHS bore the mistaken date 1883, which was subsequently whited out and corrected.
Ammodramus (
talk) 14:50, 8 June 2010 (UTC)reply
For
Rad Jan Kollar cis 101 Z.C.B.J., the accompanying photos are available online but not the NRHP nomination text itself. Text should be at:
text. Photos are at:
photos. --
doncram 19:49, 30 August 2017 (UTC)reply
For
Kearney National Guard Armory (currently a redlink), the Photos PDF at NPS is a copy of the Text PDF and the photos are not provided.[1]
John Janecek House #82003185, NRIS reports 106 acres, too big for a city block. That does appear in NRIS, and must be a data entry typo there.
NRHP nom gives 1.6 acres. I had
added this to article, even though questioning it in my edit summary, back in 2012. The nom doc says it is an entire city block, which I accepted as corroboration. However elsewhere in the nom appears the 1.6 though. --
doncram 15:52, 26 August 2017 (UTC)reply
I am simply confused by NRIS and NRHP nom doc information about
Francovich House. NRIS includes entry that it was NRHP-listed on April 25, 1983. Its NRHP inventory-nomination dated December 1983 states it was listed on the
National Register of Historic Places on April 25, 1983 but was delisted later the same year, in October, upon it being moved to save it from demolition.[1] What is the deal, is it re-listed on basis of the December inventory-nomination? Or does it remain delisted? Something is wrong in the NRIS record, either way. --
doncram 17:02, 25 July 2013 (UTC)reply
NRIS has apparent typo "1889" for built date of
Francovich House, at 557 Washington St. in
Reno, Nevada, which, according to its NRHP inventory-nomination doc was built during 1899-1900. See above discussion of same property's listing status confusion.[1]--
doncram 17:02, 25 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Luella Garvey House, Nevada, designed by
Paul Revere Williams per sources on the architect and per NRHP document while NRIS says "William". Change to "Williams". --
doncram 22:27, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Nevada: address issues
Immaculate Conception Church (Sparks, Nevada) is listed as being at "590 Pyramid Way" in Sparks. The actual address is 528 Pyramid Way: see
photo (street address is at upper right, on brick column). I didn't upload photos to document the fact, but 590 is a relatively recent frame house next to the church.
Ammodramus (
talk) 01:47, 3 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Capital Theater (Ely, Nevada) is listed as being at 460 Aultman Street. In a
2014 photo, the addresses 464, 466, and 468 are visible on the three businesses occupying the building.
Ammodramus (
talk) 00:36, 9 September 2014 (UTC)reply
American Legion Hall (McGill, Nevada) is listed as being at 24 Fourth Street. The correct address is almost certainly 24 Avenue J. A
2014 photo shows that the building faces J. Moreover, it is on the southeast side of Fourth, which is the odd-numbered side; it's on the even-numbered side of J, next to a building facing J with the street number 22, and across J from numbers 23 and 25. (The building in question has no street number on it.)
Ammodramus (
talk) 01:03, 9 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Brick Store (Bath, New Hampshire) is listed on Main Street. It is actually on Lisbon Road, which is the main street of the town, at the intersection of West Bath Road. For evidence, go to the cited location in Google Street view -- the building is hard to miss.. . . . Jim . . . .
Jameslwoodward (
talk •
contribs) 15:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Tuftonboro United Methodist Church, is listed in NRIS as having address: N side of NH 171, E of jct. with Durgan Rd.,
Tuftonboro, New Hampshire. The correct spelling is Durgin Rd., not Durgan Rd. Noted by editor Ken Gallager in correcting the address in the wikipedia article. It was not an error in NRIS data entry; the NRHP nomination document
https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/97000505_text here] shows the incorrect spelling. Correct to: "Durgin" from incorrect "Durgan". --
doncram 14:29, 26 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Farmer's Hall is incorrectly listed as being located in Moorestown Township. At the time Farmer's Hall was added to NRIS, Mount Laurel did not have it's own post office and got all it's mail through Moorestown. However, Farmer's Hall is actually located in
Mount Laurel Township, at the foot of Mount Laurel Mountain and across the street from
Evesham Friends Meeting House.
There's some kind of error here. According to the
USGS GNIS database, there is no Waldwick, NY. Both listings are coded as "listed" in the raw NPS NRIS database and they have different reference numbers. But both have the same address and are identified as being part of the "Stone Houses of Bergen County TR" multiple listing (Waldwick, NJ is in Bergen County). Perhaps there's an Albert Smith House listed on the NRHP somewhere in New York, but it seems doubtful since the New York Historic Preservation Office doesn't seem to have a record of it. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 03:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)reply
I think someone got confused between Waldwick and Warwick, New York.
Daniel Case (
talk) 16:14, 19 June 2011 (UTC)reply
architects
East Orange Station, 65 City Hall Plaza, East Orange, N.J., is listed as having architect (Nies,F.W.), which appears possibly to be a typo for
Frank J. Nies. There are numerous NRHP listings for F.J. Nies or other variations. --
doncram 20:44, 21 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Town location issues
Risley School was listed 5/4/2011 as in Ester Manor City, NJ. It should be
Estell Manor, NJ (the USGS GNIS database lists the place name as Estell Manor, not Estell Manor City). --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 00:07, 20 May 2011 (UTC)reply
New Jersey: street address issues
Vail-Trust House, Somerset County, is listed incorrectly as located at 225 Greenbrook Road. The correct address is 255 Greenbrook Road, as show on page 12 of section 8 and the appendix diagrams of the
nomination. (the first page of the nomination is incorrect)
Zeete (
talk) 19:25, 11 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Cary Station, Morris County, is marked as Building/Site on its
nomination, but incorrectly marked as Historic District in NRIS/Elkman.
Zeete (
talk) 11:32, 5 May 2014 (UTC)reply
How many other discrepancies between our lists, diligently developed using NRIS as of 2011 or so, plus Weekly List announcements, vs. actual listings, might exist? There have been a few others at least. The Weekly lists have sometimes been edited later, without notice, too, which seems wrong, because any fix should be announced in a new Weekly list, and we figured out we missed a few that got done that way, but others we might never have noticed. --
Doncram (
talk) 00:15, 28 August 2019 (UTC)reply
New Mexico: address restricted unnecessarily?
A number of places listed in July and December 1990, including houses and the
Mora Historic District, within
National Register of Historic Places listings in Mora County, New Mexico seem to have been inappropriately identified as "Address restricted", so NRHP docs are not available for them. Note the Mora Historic District includes NRHP-listed
St. Vrain Mill among a total of 70 contributing buildings on 41 acres. Some of these covered by
Historic and Architectural Resources of the Upland Valleys MPS, which shows some redactions (probably unnecessary). How is the village of Mora supposed to proceed with its development, discussed in that MPS, if it is secret what properties are covered in NRHP and may be eligible for historic renovation grants? These are not archeological dig sites! I went ahead sometime to create
Daniel Cassidy House, about a hipped cottage, with skimpy sources. The NRHP docs are not available, but should be. I just spot-checked for whether docs are available at
NP Gallery search site, find there has been no change, they are not available. The ones that appear wrongly classified are:
Perhaps there are more.
Note from the MPS: "The repository for all of the inventory materials is the Historic Preservation Division of the New Mexico Office of Cultural Affairs in Santa Fe, New Mexico." --
Doncram (
talk) 04:59, 10 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Like, I presume that the historic area of Anton Chico is publicly known, though presumably not the exact borders of the historic district because of the withholding of information by the restriction, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of historic designation? --
Doncram (
talk) 17:44, 16 July 2019 (UTC)reply
The
Schmitt-Laemmle House at 1106 Columbia in Las Vegas, San Miguel County, is no longer at that address. Photos of the parking lot now at the site are at
Commons:Category:Las Vegas, New Mexico 1106 Columbia Street. The occupant of 1108 Columbia told the photographer that the house had been acquired and demolished by New Mexico Highlands University.
Ammodramus (
talk) 03:30, 24 February 2012 (UTC)reply
The
MacDonald Merchandise Building (refnum 80002573) in Magdalena, Socorro County, is apparently no longer extant.
"New Mexico's Rich Cultural Heritage", dated March 2012, issued by
New Mexico Historic Preservation Division, p. 51, lists "Magdalena Merchantile Building" as "(REMOVED SR & NR)" [uppercase in original]. According to the nom form, this is another name for the building. Google's street view shows no building along Highway 60 that matches the photos or the description in the nom form; a ground search through Magdalena, which isn't very large, also turned up no two-story stone buildings.
Ammodramus (
talk) 14:14, 11 March 2016 (UTC)reply
The site in
Santa Rosa, New Mexico with refnum 84000633 is listed in NRIS2013a as the "Julius J. Moise House", but the NRHP nomination document for it is clear that it is the
J. Julian Moise House instead. Appears to be a NRIS data entry error. --
Doncram (
talk) 05:11, 16 July 2019 (UTC)reply
The
J.P. Strong Store, which in fact is located on the southwest corner of the junction of
NM 120 and
NM 442 in
Ocate, New Mexico, is stated in NRIS and in the NRHP nomination document to be located on
21 rather than
NM 442. But that seems to have been an error, or highway numbering has changed since listing date, based on Google Maps and upon whatever sources underly Wikipedia's articles about 21 and 442. --
Doncram (
talk) 06:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Queen Anne House in La Luz is listed on "Kearny St"; Google Maps and a local say that it's "Kearney St."
Nyttend (
talk) 20:25, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Main Street Commercial Building (refnum 82003336) in Magdalena, Socorro County, has its address given only as "Main St.", which is not terribly helpful. The complete address is "106 N. Main Street"; the number is visible in
this 2013 photo.
Ammodramus (
talk) 19:26, 18 September 2013 (UTC)reply
The
MacDonald Merchandise Building (refnum 80002573) in Magdalena, Socorro County (which is apparently no longer extant: see section "Demolished but still listed") is listed on "U.S. 90". The
nom form correctly describes it as "Highway 60". U.S. 90 does not go anywhere near Magdalena.
Ammodramus (
talk) 14:23, 11 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Bank of Portales (refnum 84000635) in Roosevelt County is listed at "123 Main". This is either incomplete or incorrect. The building is located on the northeast side of Main northwest of 1st: see
photo of intersection. There is no address on the building, but the building immediately northwest of it bears the number "106", suggesting that addresses on that side of the street are even-numbered. A coffee-shop, Do Drop In, is located at 123 S. Main (see
Roosevelt County Chamber listing); this is at the north corner of Main and 2nd. It looks as though the bank building's address should be 123 N. Main, or that the 123 is incorrect. —
Ammodramus (
talk) 01:30, 10 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Springer Building in Albuquerque is listed having architect/builders
Miles Brittelle, Sr. and
George M. Williamson (architect), who both in fact were associates of
Trost & Trost at some point. However the latter person was not an architect of the building. The NRHP document is a bit confusing, but when read carefully seems to clarify that Williamson did some other design work for the Springer Transfer Company, but he was not an architect of the Springer Building, which instead was designed by the Springer Transfer Company with architect Miles Brittelle, Sr. being involved (perhaps as a direct employee of the Springer Transfer Company). So Williamson should be dropped from NRIS mention. The passage in NRHP document is:
The Springer Transfer Company was founded in Alhuquerque by $r} William Springer, who began in the drayage business. Local hauling of furniture, sand and earth was the main activity of the company in those days. In January, 1918, the Springer Transfer Company was incorporated in the new State of New Mexico. Mr. Springer served as president until his death in 1925, when Mr. Bennett replaced him. By 1925 the business had grown to "engage in the storage business to provide a potentially profitable service to the growing population of Albuquerque." A warehouse on East Central Avenue was purchased first; then in 1929 Springer Transfer engaged architect G. M. Williamson to complete a new office and storage facility. Williamson was an associate of
Trost and Trost in the 1920's. However, it was his own firm, including architect Miles Brittelle, Sr., which designed the Springer Building in 1929.
Old Settler's Pavilion near Pekin, North Dakota, built in 1920 is asserted by NRIS to also have known as Stump Kae Park Pavilion. Is that a horrible typo for
Stump Lake Pavilion???? NRHP nom doc not available online. --
doncram 23:56, 11 August 2013 (UTC)reply
North Dakota: architect names
For
Beulah School, NRIS has two typos in its architects names. It is a work of Frederick Walcott Keith (not Kieth as appears in NRIS) and it is a work of Herman Leonhard (not Leonard as appears in NRIS). See NRHP nom doc available at
https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/97001200_text.
First State Bank (Shattuck, Oklahoma) (refnum 83004170), listed as 239 S. Main in Shattuck, Ellis County, is apparently no longer extant. A
2016 photo of the northwest corner of 3rd and Main shows a car-lot there; the southernmost building in the block is 227 S. Main. A ground search turned up no buildings on Main that matched the photo in the nom form.
Ammodramus (
talk) 15:15, 29 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Sinclair Loading Rack, near Seminole, Oklahoma, built in 1928, listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1985. It was demolished, apparently, since. --
Doncram (
talk) 14:25, 11 November 2018 (UTC)reply
66 Motel (Tulsa), in Tulsa, Oklahoma, demolished by wrecking ball in 2001. --Doncram (
talk,
contribs) 10:08, 23 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Oklahoma: property names
Sod House (Cleo Springs, Oklahoma), listed September 29, 1970, About 4 mi. N of Cleo Springs, is named something like "Sod House _" in NRIS. This causes problems in computer-generated lists and so on. I assume correction should be to, simply, "Sod House".
doncram (
talk) 18:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)reply
To expand:
Morrison Baptist Church in
Morrison, Oklahoma is the church; it is misspelled as "Morison Baptist Church" in NRIS; change 1 r to 2 r's in the church name in NRIS. --
doncram 18:00, 29 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Nail's Station, which is near
Kenefic, Oklahoma, is listed in NRIS as being "2 mi. SW of Kenefick" near "
Keneflick, Oklahoma". Listed June 29, 1972. Typo: Kenefick in location field; Keneflick in town field. Correction: Kenefic in both places. Note, Kenefic is the town given for another NRHP listing in the county (
Bryan County, Oklahoma).
doncram (
talk) 03:45, 8 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Hildebrand Mill in Delaware County, Oklahoma is listed as being near to "Siloam Springs, Oklahoma", but it is in fact
Siloam Springs, Arkansas that is nearby (across a state line). -- Noted by
Nyttend 14:24, 14 June 2009 (UTC), updated after creating article by
doncram (
talk) 22:48, 11 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Hotel Aldridge (Wewoka, Oklahoma) is located in
Wewoka, Oklahoma, not "Wenoka". Also it is located at "Third and S. Wewoka Streets", not "Third and Wenoka Sts." The NRIS-provided coordinates show the location within Wewoka, Oklahoma; there is no Wenoka and there is no Wenoka St. --
doncram (
talk) 20:06, 9 June 2010 (UTC)reply
Oklahoma: address issues
Willie W. Wilson House in Fort Towson is listed at "Cincinatti and Main Sts.": correct spelling to "Cincinnati", and also note that it's Cincinnati Ave., not Cincinnati St.
Nyttend (
talk) 12:38, 14 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Waverley Historic District in Enid is listed as being "Roughly bounded by W Broadway Ave., N and S Tyler Sts.,S. Harrison St., W. Oklahoma St. and N and S Bachanan Sts." Correct "Bachanan" to
Buchanan.
Nyttend (
talk) 15:28, 14 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Ozark Trails Section of Route 66 is listed at "Jct. of N3540 rd and E0890 Rd W to jct. of E0890 Rd. and St. Louis and San Francisco RR tracks" — correct "N3540 rd" to "N3540 Rd", add periods after "rd" in both cases.
Nyttend (
talk) 01:10, 15 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Fairview School near Meeker is listed "2.25 NNW of jct. of US 62 and OK 18": add "miles" after "2.25".
Nyttend (
talk) 01:12, 15 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Idabel Armory in Idabel is listed at "Washngton and SE Avenue F Sts."
Nyttend (
talk) 02:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Gatewood East Historic District in Oklahoma County is listed at "NW 16th to N of NW 22nd, N. Classen Blvd. to N. Blackwelder Ave. and N. Flordia Ave." — correct "Flordia" to "Florida".
Nyttend (
talk) 03:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Merchants Transfer and Storage in Oklahoma County is listed at "l9 E. California" (capitalised, it's "L9", not "19"): correct to "19 E. California".
Nyttend (
talk) 04:03, 15 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Sheets House in Newkirk, Oklahoma (Kay County). The address is given as 1350 W. Peckingham Rd., but the maps say Peckham Road.
Jeffrey Beall(talk) 16:24, 19 February 2014 (UTC).reply
Shattuck National Bank Building (refnum 83004171) in Shattuck, Ellis County, is listed on the nom form at "100 S. Main". The correct address, 101 S. Main, appears on the
Shattuck Public Library website; ground-truthing confirms that it's on the odd-numbered side of Main.
Ammodramus (
talk) 14:49, 29 March 2016 (UTC)reply
National Astronomy and Ionosphere Center, Esperanza Ward, San Rafael Sector, Rd. 625, Arecibo vicinity, 07000525, LISTED, 9/23/08, is omitted from NRIS, although it was listed, in fact as the weekly featured listing, in September 2008. Weekly listing: PUERTO RICO, ARECIBO MUNICIPALITY (
http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/listings/20081003.HTM. Omission detected by Lvklock, within a joint reconciliation exercise with me. Thanks!
doncram (
talk) 07:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Faro de Punta Higuero, in
Rincon, Puerto Rico, listed October 22, 1981, also should be checked and if appropriate corrected from "Faro di Punta Higuero" to "Faro de Punta Higuero".
doncram (
talk) 04:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)reply
"Properties of Puerto Rico included in the National Register" shows "de" rather than "di" here, too.
doncram (
talk) 08:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Panteon Otero-Martinez is listed in NRIS as "Pauteon Otero-Martinez", while the correct word is Panteon. Typo: Pauteon; Correction: Panteon, in name of property. The more fully correct spelling, shown in "Properties of Puerto Rico included in the National Register", is "Panteón" (the Spanish word for mausoleum), but i understand the NRIS system would not accommodate the accent on the O. Issue noted by
User:Jmundo.
doncram (
talk) 08:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)reply
McCabe Memorial Chapel is listed in NRIS as "Mc Cabe Memorial Church". It is located per NRIS at 835 Eugenio Maria de Hostos Ave. in
San Juan, Puerto Rico, was listed April 11, 2008, has refnum=08000283. It appears that "Mc Cabe" is a typo for "McCabe"; it certainly makes it hard to look up in a database.
doncram (
talk) 00:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Puerto Rico: town issues
Casa Alonso, at 34 Betances St.,
Vega Baja, Puerto Rico is listed in NRIS as being in "Veja Baja". Listed December 13, 1996, refnum=96001491. Typo: Veja Baja; Correction: Vega Baja.
doncram (
talk) 17:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Gomez Residencia (Mayaguez, Puerto Rico), listed June 15, 1988, refnum=88000656, located at Mendez Vigo No. 60,
Mayaguez, Puerto Rico, is described in NRIS as having architecture that is "Mission/Spanish Revival, Neo-Andalsusi". That last word must be Andalusi instead. Typo:Neo-Andalsusi; Correction: Neo-Andalusi; in architecture field.
doncram (
talk) 07:55, 16 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Arenas Bridge. It is stated by the National Park Service in a travel itinerary webpage that the bridge is still in use, at the bottom,
here. However,
Matthiasb points out this
sat-image at Google indicates a newer bridge on the east for the modern traffic. Hmm, yes, that image is pretty convincing. Looks like cars are parked in the approach to the historic bridge, too. Thanks Matthiasb.
doncram (
talk) 18:06, 26 October 2009 (UTC)reply
Peace Dale Historic District is listed as roughly bounded by by Kensey Rd., Oakwoods Dr., Kingstown Rd., School, Church and Railroad Sts. According to googlemaps, there is no Kensey Rd. in Peace Dale, but there is a Kersey Rd. Typo: Kensey Correction: Kersey
Lvklock (
talk) 20:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Rhode Island: county location issues
William Whalley House, 33 Burchard Ave., Little Compton, is listed in the NRIS database as in Bristol County. Little Compton and this address are in Newport County. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 06:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Chester Historic District (Boundary Increase) is listed as being "Roughly bounded by Hemphill Ave., Brawley, Saluda, and FooteSts. and along Reedy St." — need to add a space in the middle of "FooteSts." to convert it to "Foote Sts."
Nyttend (
talk) 15:49, 7 February 2010 (UTC)reply
The alternate name for the Reedy River Falls Historic Park and Greenway (Boundary Increase) is given as "See A1so:Reedy River Falls Historic Park and Greenway" — "Also" is spelled with the numeral "1", rather than the letter "L".
Nyttend (
talk) 15:55, 7 February 2010 (UTC)reply
South Carolina: county location issues
Seaside Plantation House, listed in Charleston County, but according to coordinates given (verified with pictures & bird's eye views) it is in Colleton County. --
Spyder_Monkey (
Talk) 20:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Spanish Mount Point, listed in Charleston County as Address Restricted, but according to
this map and other sources, it is located in Edisto Beach State Park in Colleton County. --
Spyder_Monkey (
Talk) 20:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Landsford Plantation House in Chester County is listed in "Landsford Township", but the GNIS lists no such place; this is to be expected, as South Carolina has no townships.
Nyttend (
talk) 17:57, 7 February 2010 (UTC)reply
South Carolina has used the term "township." In 1731, they set up eleven townships to encourage to the settling of inland areas by European settlers. Eventually thirteen townships were established. Many were predominately German, Welsh, French, or Irish/Scots-Irish. For example, Orangeburg township was largely German and is the genesis of
Orangeburg, South Carolina (Edgar, Walter, ed., South Carolina Encyclopedia, p. 973, 2006).
Later, some/all (?) counties were laid out in townships. See
Acts of the General Assembly of South-Carolina, 1886, p. 702 for a reference to Landsford Township. The present day governmental significance of these is obscure at best. Landsford Township probably was in the northeast corner of the Chester County. There is a Landsford Precinct for voting -
Chester County voting precincts.
KudzuVine (
talk) 01:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Old Batesburg-Leesville High School is listed as being on Summerland Ave. in Lexington. It is actually on Columbia Ave. Batesburg-Leesville. The nomination states it is along Summerland Ave in Leesville, which is probably what Columbia Ave. was before the city merged with Batesburg in 1992 (after the nomination). kennethaw88 •
talk 21:59, 1 April 2017 (UTC)reply
South Carolina: address issues
Lee County Courthouse in Bishopville, South Carolina, is listed at the Focus site as being at "123 Main Street"; in this, it follows the nom form. However, there are both N. Main and S. Main addresses; the courthouse is at 123 S. Main (see, for example, the
Lee County Assessor's website).
Ammodramus (
talk) 02:32, 19 February 2013 (UTC)reply
Williams Chapel A.M.E. Church (refnum 85002345) in Orangeburg is listed as being at 1908 Glover Street. It's actually at 1198 Glover Street (see
church website). Orangeburg's numbering system may have changed since the time of the church's nomination.
Ammodramus (
talk) 11:32, 1 May 2015 (UTC)reply
I have moved it from the Calhoun table to the Abbeville table.
clariosophic (
talk) 21:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)reply
The original listing of the Charleston Historic District (refnum 66000964) is given as having an area of 0 acres.
Nyttend (
talk) 16:08, 7 February 2010 (UTC)reply
The surname in the
Margaret and Vernon Maxon House in Huron, Beadle County (refnum 98001409), is apparently misspelled and should be "Moxon". It's spelled "Maxon" throughout the
NRHP nominating form. However, a
sign on the lawn spells the name "Moxon". An
obituary published by Huron's Kuhler Funeral Home and an
obituary published in the Seattle Times give the decedent's name as "Margaret L. Moxon", and her late spouse's name as "Vernon Moxon" both formerly of Huron. An
entry at FindAGrave from the Restlawn Memorial Gardens of Huron includes a photo of a stone on which the names "Vernon W." and "Margaret L." are over the surname "Moxon". The
NRHP nominating form for the Edbert and Josie Opitz House, a Lustron house in Redfield, South Dakota, states that the original owners of the house were "Vernon and Margaret Moxon", who were "transferred to Huron in 1956"; the form spells the name "Moxon" a second time in that paragraph, but also spells it "Maxon". The nominating form for the Huron house states that "Mr. Maxon worked as a soil scientist"; one of the authors of
"Soil Survey of Beadle County, South Dakota" is listed as "Vernon W. Moxon".
Ammodramus (
talk) 23:46, 8 September 2017 (UTC)reply
The surname in the
Herman Friewald Barn (refnum 08000045) in Grant County is misspelled. It's spelled "Friewald" at the top of the nom form; but it's used multiple times elsewhere in the form, and each time it's spelled "Freiwald".
Ammodramus (
talk) 12:09, 16 September 2017 (UTC)reply
South Dakota: demolished but still listed
South Dakota Department of Transportation Bridge No. 63-210-282 (refnum 99001216) in Turner County is described in the nom form as a Pratt through truss bridge. When the site was visited in 2015, the river was spanned by a recent-looking beam bridge; see
2015 photos. Four steel cylinder piers, visible in photos, may remain from the earlier bridge.
Ammodramus (
talk) 02:15, 2 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Holy Fellowship Episcopal Church (refnum 75001712) in Charles Mix County is apparently no longer extant. The nom form describes its location as "SE of Greenwood", on Section 26, with UTM coordinates. The topo map at mapper.acme.com shows a church in the very southwest corner of Section 26, near the eastern edge of Greenwood, north of the road that runs parallel to the river and west of the north-south road past the Holy Fellowship cemetery. A ground search turned up no churches in that area; no churches along the north-south road; and no churches along the river road east and southeast of Greenwood. There are two churches in Greenwood, both south of the river road, and neither matching the photos in the nom form.
Ammodramus (
talk) 00:25, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Brookings Commercial Historic District in Brookings is listed "Roughly along Main Ave.between the C&NW Railraod and the alley N. Fifth St.": add space after "Ave.", correct to "Railroad", and improve final wording — is it the alley north of Fifth Street? An alley near North Fifth Street?
Nyttend (
talk) 02:41, 9 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Holy Trinity Church in Brule County is listed as being "0ff I-90" — change the zero to an "O", from "0ff" to "Off".
Nyttend (
talk) 03:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)reply
J. W. Reedy house (refnum 84000605) in Beresford, Union County, South Dakota, is listed as "304 N. 2nd". The correct address, 309 N. 2nd, appears in the nominating form. Ground-truthing indicates that the house at 304 N. 2nd does not in any way resemble the photos in the nom form, nor does it match the verbal description in the nom form, "southwest corner of Second and Cedar Streets".
Ammodramus (
talk) 16:11, 30 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Hultgren Farm (refnum 03001536) in Union County, South Dakota, is listed as "17953 309th St." No such address exists in Union County. The site's address appears in the nom form as "47953 309th St."
Ammodramus (
talk) 18:43, 1 October 2015 (UTC)reply
ZCBJ Hall (Tyndall, South Dakota) (refnum 85000181) is at 1910 Ivy Street. Address "1910" can be see to right of door in
this photo. Location on Ivy can be seen in
this photo. Tyndall has apparently changed its street names since the site's NRHP nomination; the nom form gives the address as "Nebraska and Washington Sts."
Ammodramus (
talk) 23:36, 1 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Koobs House (refnum 84003218) in Scotland, Bon Homme County, South Dakota, is listed as being at 431 4th Street; this address appears on the nom form. However, in the nom form for Scotland Residential Historic District (refnum 95001439), its address is given as 631 4th Street; and the street number "631" is visible over the front door in a
2016 photo.
Ammodramus (
talk) 00:08, 26 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Farmers State Bank of Platte (refnum 83003004) in Platte, Charles Mix County, is listed on the nom form as being at "404 N. Main St." It's actually at 404 S. Main. The correct address appears under the building's 2016 occupant, StarBanks Coffee & Wine, at
this Platte business directory. Ground-truthing confirms that in this stretch of Main, numbers increase from north to south.
Ammodramus (
talk) 02:52, 29 February 2016 (UTC)reply
H. P. Will house (refnum 02001763) in Wessington Springs, Jerauld County, is listed in the nom form as being at "214 Alene Ave North". As of 2017, the address was 207: the number is visible to the left of the front door in
this photo.
Ammodramus (
talk) 00:48, 9 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Methodist Episcopal Church of Wessington Springs (refnum 99001582), in Jerauld County, is described as being at "SE Corner of Main and State Street". It's actually at the corner of Main Street and State Avenue: see the street sign in the foreground of
this 2017 photo. Also, "corner" should be lowercased; this isn't German.
Ammodramus (
talk) 13:42, 9 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Robert S. Vessey House (refnum 78002560) in Wessington Springs, Jerauld County, is described in the nom form as being at "118 College Avenue". There are two problems with this. First, College Avenue has both north and south addressses; second, the number on the Vessey house is 109 (visible on right side of doorframe in
this 2017 photo). The address should probably be "109 N. College Avenue" or "109 College Avenue N."
Ammodramus (
talk) 02:49, 10 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Wessington Springs Opera House (refnum 76001738) in Jerauld County is described in the nom form as being at "111 Dakota Avenue N." When photographed in 2017, it was found on the even-numbered side of the street. There was no address on the building.
This 2017 photo shows the opera house reflected in the window of 109 Dakota Ave. N, across the street.
Ammodramus (
talk) 03:17, 10 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Brookings City Hall, 4th St.
Brookings, SD is credited in NRIS to "Huron, Issenhuth", while it was in fact designed by George Issenhuth of Huron.
Dairy Building, Off Third St. near the South Dakota State Fair Grounds
Huron, SD is credited to "Issenhute,George" which has typo in architect name. Should be "Issenhuth" not "Issenhute". --
Doncram (
talk) 06:56, 30 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Sioux Falls National Bank Building, refnum 79002406 in
Sioux Falls, South Dakota is listed in NRIS as having been designed by "Weary & Alvord", with typo for the second partner. It was designed by
Weary & Alford, an architectural firm that designed some other NRIS-listed buildings. The
NRHP document gave the incorrect spelling, and did not give any much coverage about the architects, so the author was probably just unaware of the correct spelling. --
Doncram (
talk) 20:31, 11 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Sessions-Pope-Sheild House in Yorktown, Virginia should be Sessions-Pope-Shield House --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 00:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)reply
batch03:62 Sheild should be spelled Shield
Actually, it seems it may be "Sheild" after all; sources are split but more for "Sheild" apparently. VA NRHP doc uses Shield in filename but "Sheild" in text. I found a HABS document which used Shield. There are architectural/engineering type drawings in its Commons which use "Sheild". --Doncram (
talk,
contribs) 04:35, 4 April 2023 (UTC)reply
I had started recategorizing, some now at Commons' Category:Sessions-Pope-Shield House may need to be changed back?
There are two sites listed in the NRIS as in "South Boston (independent city), Virginia": Reedy Creek Site and South Boston Historic District. As of 1995, South Boston's official designation changed from independent city to town. It is now part of Halifax County and has no independent government. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 02:29, 25 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Another typo: Rockinghan County Courthouse in Harrisonburg, Virginia should be Rockingham County Courthouse. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 04:25, 25 January 2009 (UTC)reply
batch03:66
Thomas Jonathan Jackson Sculpture, in Charlottesville, VA, is listed in NRIS as "Jackson, Thomas Jonathan, Scuplture" The typo is that "sculpture" is misspelled as "scuplture".
doncram (
talk) 05:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)reply
Tazewell Historic District: Tazewell is spelled Tazewill in NRIS --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 02:21, 11 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Loretto in Wytheville, Virginia: Wytheville is misspelled as Whytheville in NRIS. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 21:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Fairmount Historic District in Richmond: Fairmount is spelled Fairmont in NRIS (see
nom form for correct spelling). --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 21:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Virginia: county location issue
Snowville Historic District is listed in the NRIS database as in Grayson County, Virginia, but it is definitely in Pulaski County. See
Pulaski County list at the Virginia Department of Historic Resources website. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 05:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Henrico, an archeological site also known as Henricus site, is listed in NRIS as being in
Henrico County, Virginia. It seems to be in
Chesterfield County, Virginia instead, per an informed editor and confirmed by the Virginia state Dept of Historic Resources'
Register Master List, which does indeed show "Henrico (Henricus Site)" as being in Chesterfield County. (summarized from
discussion at wt:NRHP, thanks Til Eulenspiegel and Ymblanter, and thanks Andrew Jameson for pointing to the master list doc). --
doncram 22:25, 30 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Virginia: town location issues
Emmanuel Church at Brook Hill, listed February 3, 2000, located at 1214 Wilmer Ave., in
Henrico County, Virginia, is given town location in NRIS of "Henrico". That seems to be incorrectly referring to "Henrico Town", also known as
Henricus, Virginia. The NRHP document for the Emmanuel Church only states that it is in Henrico County and does not state a town/village location. It may be in fact in the city of Richmond. Henrico as town location seems incorrect however. Typo: Henrico. Correction: Richmond, or Henrico County. --
doncram (
talk) 15:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Virginia: street address issues
The address for Brooklyn Tobacco Factory in Brooklyn, Virginia in the NRIS is "VA 650 N side, 0.25 mi. E of jct. with VA 820". It should be "VA 659 N side, 0.25 mi. E of jct. with VA 820" (see
NRHP Registration Form on the Virginia Department of Historic Resources website). --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 02:36, 25 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Proper name for what is now at
Falls City Masonic Hall is under discussion at
Talk:Falls City Masonic Hall#article name. SarekOfVulcan identified the likely error, that NRIS "Falls City" in name should be "Fall City" with no S instead, and has provided supporting sources there. I've asked photographer editor Jmabel, who provided statement regarding name discrepancy in photo description, to comment there. --
doncram (
talk) 21:19, 14 October 2010 (UTC)reply
Per the discussion linked above, no error -- "Falls City" was the name of the lodge that met in "Fall City", thanks to a typo at Grand Lodge.--
SarekOfVulcan (
talk) 21:08, 22 April 2011 (UTC)reply
Boatman-Ainsworth House, Tacoma, WA, is miss-spelled in NRIS as "Boatman-Ainsworth Hose". NRHP doc at
here shows it is "House". --
Doncram (
talk) 08:47, 4 October 2018 (UTC)reply
The
United States Supreme Court Building is designated a National Historic Landmark with name "Supreme Court Building". At
NHL webpage for it], refnum 87001294 is reported. However, it does not appear in the NRIS database at all, based on searching in the Elkman system both by name and by reference number.
doncram (
talk) 17:00, 7 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Washington, D.C.: demolished but still listed
I went to take a picture of the Duncanson-Cranch House, located at 468-470 N St., NW, and found only a parking lot in that location. Jeffrey Beall 23:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Power Plant and Dam No. 4 in Berkeley County is listed as being in the vicinity of "Sheperdstown", but the proper spelling is "Shepherdstown".
Nyttend (
talk) 18:42, 29 January 2010 (UTC)reply
West Virginia: County location issues
McClung's Price Place, Lewisburg, WV is in Greenbrier County, not Kanawha County. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 16:11, 1 May 2012 (UTC)reply
West Virginia: architects and other issues
St. Albans Post Office, St. Albans, West Virginia: NRIS has an architect-builder-engineer identified as "Neil A. Melick" when the correct spelling is
Neal A. Melick, a Federal government employee who is credited, spelled correctly, in many other U.S. Post Office listings on the National Register. --
doncram 17:30, 29 July 2011 (UTC)reply
Joseph Schiltz Company Brewery Complex, 219 W. Galena St., Milwaukee, listed 12/30/1999: Typo Schiltz should be Schlitz. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 02:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)reply
Daniel and Caltherine Ketchum Cobblestone House, 147 E. Second St,
Marquette, Wisconsin - her name is likely spelled Catherine
[7]Royalbroil 05:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)reply
"Kena Road School" in Marinette County is the wrong name. Based on it's location, it's the
Lena Road School. I have a photo to upload. Royalbroil 06:28, 25 July 2011 (UTC)reply
Louis Marchetti House in Wausau, Marathon County has the address 111 Grant St. in the NRIS DB. That was correct, but the building has been moved to 921 Grand Ave. For support, see
"these minutes".
Jeff the quiet (
talk) 04:02, 9 April 2012 (UTC)reply
Holsten Family Farmstead, W1391 Weiner Rd., Columbia, WI, listed September 8, 1992, refnum=92001189: Listed in the NRIS as in Columbia, WI. Per the Wisconsin Historical Society web site, it's in Columbus.
[10] The name of the county is Columbia. The town of Columbia, Wisconsin is in Clark County, approximately 130 miles from Columbia County. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 02:10, 2 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Hiram Smith House, 336 Main St.,
Neenah, Wisconsin has a new street address, luckily I drove around until I found it at 343 Smith Street in Neenah
[11]. It was clearly identified with the brown Register plaque - looks like the streets' routes were changed with a fairly new bridge in the background of some shots. I have to upload 130 pictures yet (of various types), so the images will be uploaded soon. Royalbroil 12:51, 26 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Pipe Site is listed as northeast of Fond du Lac. While its address is restricted, they mean it is located in/near the community called
Pipe, WisconsinRoyalbroil
Joint Brussels and Garner Dristrict School Number One is listed at 8571 State Trunk Highway 57 and there's a typo in the name "Dristrict" means "District". State highway 57 has been redesigned as a 4 lane highway and rerouted south of the property. The coordinates come up on google maps as 1876 Tornado Road which is where I found it when I photographed it yesterday. It's the only school within miles in a rural setting. The building has been issued a sign to mark it for finding during a fire which says 1876 Tornado Road. Royalbroil 02:20, 17 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Wisconsin: dates of significance
NRIS has wrong dates of significance for four schools designed by architect Henry Wildhagen. The four were listed together, supported by Stauffer, Eugene; Barbara Wyatt; Diane Filipowicz (December 22, 1979).
"Henry Wildhagen Schools of Ashland Thematic Resources". National Register of Historic Places Inventory - Nomination. National Park Service. Retrieved February 15, 2017.. The 2010 version of NRIS gave 1899 as a date of significance for some or all, while 1895 was given in a previous version of NRIS (can be seen in edit history of articles citing previous NRIS in infobox). Confusion derives from the thematic resources document noting that the four schools were built in 1895, 1899, 1900, and 1904, according to school records, without distinguishing which (page 5). However, Beaser School was 1899-built (stated on page 4). Ashland Middle School was the "finally produced" one (page 5), hence must be 1904-built. Ellis is "closest in age" to the middle school (page 4), so it must be the 1900 one. Wilmarth is noted to have been built in 1895 (page 3). So the schools and correct dates of construction are:
Tripoli Temple at 3000 W. Wisconsin Ave. Milwaukee, WI. It should be
Clas, Shepherd & Clas, not spelled as NRIS does as "Clas, Shepard & Clas".
Prabook source says Clas, Shepherd & Clas was established with his son and John S. Shepherd as junior partners, and after Shepherd withdrew then it became
Clas & Clas. --
Doncram (
talk) 05:24, 18 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Laney School - After being repurposed as a town hall, the town purposely burned it down in February 19, 2011
[13]. Royalbroil 01:07, 15 November 2012 (UTC)reply
I visited the location and it's gone. Just a hole in the ground and the sign that's in the article. The driveway goes to nothing. Here's 2 pictures:
1,
2. Too bad I can't find the photographs that I had taken before the fire. My hard drive was full in 2007 so I had to make room. Royalbroil 02:38, 18 February 2013 (UTC)reply
Fountain Inn (Beaver Dam, Wisconsin) is apparently gone according to
this local magazine. The owner fought neighbors and the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources after flooding on the
Beaver Dam River caused a redesign of downtown Beaver Dam
[14] but he eventually lost. I drove to the site on July 7, 2015 and I was able to photograph several other listings in the community. That lot was empty
(picture) and there was a lot of construction on the surrounding streets. Royalbroil 04:50, 9 July 2015 (UTC)reply
First German Reformed Church in Waukesha should probably be delisted. The pastor says it burned to the ground in 2005 and they constructed a new building, preserving only the old cornerstone.
Jeff the quiet (
talk) 13:54, 11 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Brin Building in Menasha had a major fire on August 10, 2018. It was deemed unsafe by the city and the owners sold it to the city for $1. They will raze the building and redevelop.
[15]Royalbroil 11:13, 19 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Big Horn Hotel in Arminto, Wyoming (NRHP-listed December 18, 1978, refnum 78002831) was destroyed by fire in 1985, per Casper Star-Tribune newspaper
story in 2010. --
doncram 06:02, 3 June 2017 (UTC)reply
In Maine,
Coburn, John G. is listed in Elkman and in NRIS's own interface. Presumably this is supposed to be John G. Coburn House or something like that?
doncram (
talk) 08:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)reply
There are many more like this, many for places including Sr. or Jr. as part of a person's name for whom the house is named after.
doncram (
talk) 20:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)reply
This is not an NRIS problem. NRIS lists various places with # sign in their names, e.g. "Schoolhouse #6" in Albany County, NY. However, this does not work in Wikipedia article names, one goes to the "Schoolhouse" article. So i have to change it to
Schoolhouse No. 6, i believe.
doncram (
talk) 01:09, 11 September 2008 (UTC)reply
NRIS? / Elkman lists "Van derzee, Cornelius and Agnietje House" on a Van Derzee street in Albany County, New York. I think there probably should be capitalization of Derzee. Am putting into Albany County list as
Cornelius and Agnietje Van Derzee House.
doncram (
talk) 17:50, 10 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Existing property, once listed, but no longer appearing in NRIS
To check what is listed in NRIS,
search NRIS here. However, the NRIS user interface does not provide access to all fields or all contents of NRIS, as evidenced by Elkman finding different content (such as delisting info) in 4/2008 download.
To check what is in Elkman NRHP generator (based on NRIS download as of 4/2008),
search Elkman NRHP generator here. However, it seems to be a feature of Elkman NRHP generator not to show delisted entries when search by name, but to show them when search by refnum (which you'd have to know from somewhere else).
I can't find it in NRIS, and searching on "Boston College" in Elkman NRHP generator does not find it, but searching the Elkman generator on refnum 90000109 finds it there.
doncram (
talk) 23:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)reply
I can't find it in NRIS directly, and searching on "Masonic" and "MA" in Elkman NRHP generator does not find it, but searching on refnum 86003798 finds it there.
doncram (
talk) 23:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)reply
Delaware and Hudson Depot, in
Ticonderoga, New York (different than the other depot at Port Henry in the same county,
Essex County, New York). It was not part of the Elkman-county-table-generator output (based on NRIS) and I can't find it by any search
within NRIS itself. Elkman's generator is not working right now so i can't check it there right now. I do see it is listed in
NRHP.COM's Essex county list, which was based on NRIS as of a certain date. Could it have been delisted? And its nomination document is available as
Ticonderoga depot document at New York State's NRHP site here. Is there an anomaly in the Elkman-county-table-generator? But why doesn't it show in NRIS, while it does show in NRHP.COM? Anomaly pointed out by
Mwannerdoncram (
talk) 00:44, 2 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Elkman's individual NRHP generator, working now, does not show it in searches on "Delaware" etc., but searching on refnum 88002206 finds it there.
doncram (
talk) 19:31, 2 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Claremont Resort in Oakland, CA. It doesn't come out in the Elkman county table generator for Alameda County, but it was listed in the old-style NRHP list (as Claremont Hotel). It doesn't come up when searching by name with the Elkman infobox generator but it does when searching by reference number (03000427). Searching the NRIS at nps.gov for Claremont in CA returns nothing, but I found it in the
new listings dated 5/30/2003. Is there a good way to find out if it's been removed for some reason? It seems to me unlikely that it was newly listed so recently and already removed. --
Sanfranman59 (
talk) 04:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Location issues
There are some location issues introduced by use of the Elkman county-table generator in our "table-izing" of lists such as
List of Registered Historic Places in Suffolk County, New York. For Suffolk County, the
Montauk Point Lighthouse shows in the Elkman-table as being in East Hampton, because NRIS shows East Hampton as the nearest city (as is shown also in the Elkman individual NRHP infobox for it). The Elkman-table appears to use best-available location info, which in some cases is the "nearest city". I don't think there is any way to improve upon that centrally; it requires local expertise like
DanTD in Suffolk provides to put in a more accurate location into the table, for a specific site. DanTD corrected the lighthouse's location to show as
Montauk, New York. Montauk's wikipedia article describes it as a hamlet and a Census-designated place now; perhaps it was even less than that when the lighthouse was listed on the NRHP. I think showing East Hampton in the table, although not precisely accurate, is a better start than providing no location info if NRIS gives only a "nearest city" location.
doncram (
talk) 00:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Note that any extant lighthouse has exact coordinates available either from the US Light Lists (if active) or from LighthouseFriends.
Mangoe (
talk) 13:39, 15 February 2013 (UTC)reply
Various ships have moved from one state to another, and the NRHP and the NHL webpages have not kept up necessarily. Some but not all ship moves are recognized in updates to the NHL list.
doncram (
talk) 05:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)reply
USS Hoga, listed in the NRIS as in Oakland, CA, is now part of the Arkansas Inland Maritime Museum in North Little Rock, AR.
[16] --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 23:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Zippin Pippin was moved during the 2010/11 winter from Memphis, Tennessee to
Bay Beach Amusement Park in Green Bay, Wisconsin. It is scheduled to be unveiled in May 2011. Royalbroil 01:31, 3 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Blood Run Site is identified in NRIS as located in/near: Sioux Falls, Iowa. I told that Sioux Falls IA does not exist, but that
Sioux Falls, South Dakota is close to Blood Run Site. NRIS also shows the site is in/near Shindlar, South Dakota, which is correct.
doncram (
talk) 02:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)reply
There may be a number of cases where bad coordinates in the NRIS database provided via Elkman's system (which generates starter county tables and the individual NRHP infoboxes) are given, usually due to bad NRIS info, but also perhaps sometimes due to potential glitches in Elkman's merger of NRIS coordinates with other NRIS info. If there are merger errors, maybe the NRIS coordinates file is lacking sufficient detail to support proper mergers, which would be a different kind of error.
I'm submitting 45 instances of coordinates issues in a batch to the NPS, am noting code numbers for each one submitted. Will report back about corrections made and/or feedback about what is useful for NPS to receive in a report.
doncram (
talk) 18:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Casselman's Bridge, National Road, in Maryland, is placed exactly on the equator in the Pacific Ocean, midway between mainland Ecuador and the Galapagos Islands. Sounds like an impressive bridge!
Nyttend (
talk) 16:31, 10 February 2009 (UTC)reply
Slob Historic District's location is mis-identified in NRHP document and in separate NPS webpage about it (in the "Travel" webpage series?). Its coordinates are not given in NRIS2013a, which says only that it is near Christiansted (which is correct). Its refnum = 87001929. Slob Historic District was a large
sugar plantation. The estate included a factory building, a water mill tower, a
great house built around 1750, and a slave village. Slaves were emancipated in 1848, and the estate declined and was largely used for grazing sheep and cattle. There were riots and the plantation was burned in 1878, per "travel" webpage.
Per "travel webpage (
"Slob Historic District".
National Park Service. ), the district includes the Great House and five slave cottages from the late 1700s and two from the early 1800s in the slave village. The slave village was the birthplace of
Cyril King, the island of St. Croix's first native-born governor. The district also includes the stables and an 1840s factory building.[1]
It is located north of Centerline Rd., about 6 miles (9.7 km) west of
Christiansted, on the east side of a cemetery.
Thanks, and yes, I was concluding that myself, after putting the coordinates into the Onondaga County list-article and seeing where they pointed to. Have removed from the Onondaga county list-article and confirmed it's covered in Orange County's list-article. And now I can't see why it had appeared the place was in Syracuse or in Onondaga County, and hence why it was included in the Onondaga County list article. Up until earlier today did the NRHP infobox generator show it in Syracuse somehow, but now the underlying data has been changed? I do notice the NRHP.COM system shows it in neither
Onondaga County nor
Orange County NRHP.COM listings, so I think there is some error within the NRIS data, yet to be corrected there.
doncram (
talk) 20:20, 14 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Owner objections, and delistings
Kewpee Restaurant, in
Allen County, Ohio, appears in the individual Elkman NRHP generator when search by refnum 82005081, but not when search by name, and it does not appear in the Allen county table generator output. Is this another case where the property was demolished and delisted? question raised by Stepshep at, i think,
Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Ohio.
doncram (
talk) 01:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Or perhaps it is listed, erroneously, by NRIS in a different county (so it could also show up in a different Elkman county list-table)? As may have been the case for Cosman Family Cemetery, discussed just above.
doncram (
talk) 01:52, 16 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Its listing status is "Determined eligible/Owner objection". In other words, it was nominated, but the owner objected to having it listed on the National Register. I should look into updating the infobox generator to query the listing status. --
Elkman(Elkspeak) 02:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)reply
That would be great, to get a status and extra fields of info as appropriate, for owner objection cases. Similarly: delisting cases. I also don't understand how Stepshep got the refnum and hence the infobox for Kewpee. Another owner objection one is
Charles Scribner's Sons Building in New York City, which is included in New York State's database but not the Elkman county-table generator (correctly), and correspondence shows it was an owner objection. I don't know its NRHP refnum, if it has one, to generate an individual NRHP infobox for it. The
template:infobox NRHP2 could be adjusted to accommodate these (to show an eligible date rather than a listed date, etc.). Also, delisted properties' infoboxes could be adjusted to show a delisting date as well as a listing date. Whether the infobox features are programmed into the individual NRHP infobox generator or not, it is crucial to get a report that at least shows this info, for manual adjustment of an infobox. I'll raise the template programming issues over in the Talk page for NRHP2, now.
doncram (
talk) 14:23, 16 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Owner objecton. I'll have to ask around why that was. Should be interesting for the article. Also, I caoun't find anything about objection iin my limited knowldge search of the NRIS. How did you get to that information? Thanks for the help and some really cool tools.
§hep •
¡Talk to me! 22:40, 18 October 2008 (UTC)reply
(copied from
wt:NRHP)
Is there somewhere that lists or can be searched to find sites that have been delisted (other than looking through each weekly list back to 1996)? I was looking through Waseca County, MN, and noted that on the county's web site
[18], they also list 3 sites not in the NRHP listings. When I look at the nationalregisterofhistoricpalces.com site, it does list the 3 sites, complete with listing numbers. Any ideas where I could find more info on these? Ref #s 82005055, 82005054, and 82000564.
25or6to4 (
talk) 07:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC)reply
There is a possibility that the properties never were listed to begin with. When a nomination comes into the NPS, it is given its reference number ("refnum") for internal tracking. The nomination can be denied (the paperwork was incomplete, the justification was not strong enough, the boundaries are wrong, etc.) Note even though it was denied, it still it has its "refnum". Somehow NRHP.com picks these up and lists them. One example is Weir Canyon Archaeological District in California - it was nominated, went to the NPS and given a "refnum" and subsequently denied (the boundaries were not justified, and the author did not do enough research into the local Native Americans) yet, it is on NRHP.com! The only way to find out for sure is to contact the NPS and find out (nr_reference(at)nps.gov).
Einbierbitte (
talk) 16:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)reply
There seem to be changes underway in Elkman's generator... searching on 82005055 gives report now noting listing status = DO, whatever that is, for Eaco Mill, in Minnesota. It should be noted that the first data problem here is that NRIS's own access system does not provide any way to get this info. Specifically, searching on Eaco in MN at NRIS, e.g. trying at
this NRIS search screen yields nada. Elkman's interfaces already provide more than is possible to get directly from NRIS.
doncram (
talk) 18:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Spelling mistakes and other inconsistencies in NRHP database
I've been asked by
User:Nyttend to report some minor inconsistencies in the NHRP database I found as part of trying to determine which sites do not, or should not, have public address information.
As far as I can see from parsing PROPMAIN.DBF (which is in the DETAILS.EXE self-extracting zipfile), there are 88412 records in the database, of which 5143 contain either of the words "address" or "restricted" in their address. Most of these use the exact string "Address Restricted". However, 90 entries use some other variation of this message.
The records with address fields which contain the substrings "address" or "restricted", but not using the exact string "Address Restricted", are as follows (leading/trailing spaces have been stripped from strings):
['REFNUM', 'RESNAME', 'ADDRESS', 'RESTRICT']
['82005042', 'Upper Shawsheen Railroad Bridge', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['80004424', 'Redbud Hollow', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['80004411', 'Campbellton', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['80004421', 'Jones Mill Run Historic District', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['80004440', "Union Bryarly's Mill", 'Address Unknown', ""]
['80004431', 'Edgewood', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['80003650', 'Kise Mill Bridge Historic District', 'Address Information Restricted.', 'X']
['84003385', 'Foley, Richard T., Site (36GR52)', 'Address Resricted', 'X']
['66000342', 'Haskell Institute', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['80001740', 'Natchitoches Historic District (Boundary Increase)', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['75002214', 'Galvez Town Site', 'Address not known', ""]
['75000759', 'Valley Farm Ruins', 'Restricted Address', 'X']
['80004701', 'Alexander Chapel Methodist Church', 'Address not given', ""]
['77001647', 'Paris Pike Historic District', 'No address given', ""]
['84003562', 'Woodland Mound Archeological District', 'Address Retricted', 'X']
['97000789', "Thompson's Island Site (Boundary Increase)", 'address restricted', 'X']
['97000837', 'Baltimore Mills Historic Archaeological Site', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['73000662', 'Nuuanu Petroglyph Complex', 'Restricted Address', 'X']
['82000151', 'Archeological Site (T-6 complex) 50-60-04-700', 'Address Restricted .', 'X']
['97000911', 'Hog Island--62.23', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['97000914', 'Holmes Point', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['97000916', 'Grand Lake Stream Site', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['97000912', 'Hog Island--62.29', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['97000915', 'Maine Archaeological Survey site 21.26', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['97000917', 'Hog Island--62.24', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['97000913', 'Birch Point', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['97000918', 'Hog Island--62.25', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['74000775', 'Albany Mounds Site', 'Addrss Restricted', 'X']
['78003573', 'Barlous Lake Archeological District', 'Addresss Restricted', 'X']
['68000057', 'Desolation Canyon', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['82004191', 'Skeen, William D., House', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['71000857', 'Stagecoach Inn', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['66000892', 'Ste. Genevieve Historic District', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['66000424', 'Utz Site', 'Restricted Address', 'X']
['70000329', 'Harley Park Archeological Site', 'Address Restriced', 'X']
['73001047', 'Hearnes Site', 'Address Retricted', 'X']
['85003268', 'Tinian Landing Beaches, Ushi Point Field, Tinian Island', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['97000931', 'House of Taga Boudary Increase and Additional Documentation', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['80002228', 'Prairie Place', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['80002229', 'Forestdale Plantation', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['80002227', "Overseer's House and Outbuildings of Lang Plantation", 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['73000360', 'Indian Mound Park', 'Restricted Address', 'X']
['76002300', 'Old Natchez Trace', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['83003813', 'Newkirk State (Site 3lCH366)', 'Addresss Restricted', 'X']
['80002907', 'Fort Dilts', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['66000598', 'Theodore Roosevelt National Memorial Park', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['85000790', 'Scrabbletown Historic and Archeological District', 'Address Restricgted', 'X']
['95001269', 'Old Friends Archeological Site', 'Restricted Address', 'X']
['73000392', "Fort Smith's Belle Grove Historic District", 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['72000201', 'Frog Level', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['70000122', 'Powhatan Courthouse', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['66000202', 'Fort Smith National Historic Site', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['77001594', 'Adkins, Homer, House', 'No address given', ""]
['89001971', 'Scott County Courthouse', 'Address Unavailable', ""]
['98000704', 'Sandy Hook Archeological Site', 'Gateway National Recreation Area, Address Restricted', 'X']
['73002268', 'MacIntosh-Driver House', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['85002731', 'Kodiak Naval Operating Base and Forts Greely and Abercrombie', 'Address unknown', ""]
['85002730', 'Ladd Field', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['78000535', 'Cape Nome Mining District Discovery Sites', 'Address unknown', ""]
['73001155', 'San Jose de la Laguna Mission and Convento', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['74001194', 'Fort Sumner Ruins', 'Addess Restricted', 'X']
['70000115', 'Old Tubac Schoolhouse', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['94000398', 'Lower Zuni River Archeological District', 'Restricted Address', 'X']
['70000184', 'Pensacola Historic District', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['69000164', 'Santee Indian Mound and Fort Watson', 'Addres Restricted', 'X']
['66000711', 'Fort Thompson Mounds', 'Adress Restricted', 'X']
['87002081', 'Viola Rockshelter (47 Ve 640)', 'Addres Restricted', 'X']
['78001719', 'Las Vegas Springs', 'Address Restricted .', 'X']
['80002583', 'Albany Glassworks Site', 'Address Restricted.', 'X']
['75002164', 'Chatahoochee County Courthouse', 'Address unnkown at this time', ""]
['97001648', 'Bullard--Everett Farm Historic District', 'Address Restrict', 'X']
['80002942', 'Round Barn', 'Address Information Restricted.', ""]
['80003212', 'Round Barn', 'Address Information Restricted.', ""]
['80003206', 'Round Barn', 'Address Information Restricted.', ""]
['71000649', 'Glenford Fort', 'Address Restrocted', 'X']
['72000247', 'Coachella Valley Fish Traps', 'Restricted Address', 'X']
['77001613', 'Golden Crown Mine', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['75000452', 'Blythe Intaglios', 'Addres Restricted', 'X']
['93001017', 'Cedar Avenue Complex', '44843 (44855), 44845 and 44851 Cedar Ave., 606 Lancaster Blvd., and Old Jail (no address)', ""]
['66000627', 'Cherokee National Capitol', 'Restricted Address', ""]
['98001579', 'Landerneau Mound', 'Address Ristricted', 'X']
['00000263', 'Fort St. Pierre Site', 'Address Resricted', ""]
['01000970', 'Livermore Hotel and General Store', 'Address Resricted', 'X']
['02000134', 'Lauriston', 'Addriess Restricted', 'X']
['02000685', 'Sunset Point', 'Address Retricted', 'X']
['03000919', 'Red River Gorge District', 'Address District', 'X']
['04001005', 'Government Boarding School at Lac du Flambeau', 'Address restrict', 'X']
['05000460', 'Amalik Bay Archeological District', 'Katmai National Park and Preserve--Address Restricted', 'X']
['06000051', 'Redoubt #2', 'Address Restrict', 'X']
['07000371', 'T Cross Ranch Rural Historic District', 'Address Resticted', 'X']
There may be yet other variants that misspell both words, but I didn't bother to look further: I'm simply going to take the "restrict" flag as authoritative. However, I find "address unknown" rather puzzling; are the NRHP actually saying they don't know where these places are? Or is this a mistake, and they should be flagged as restricted?
There are some other curious inconsistencies: a number of of the records listed above (for example, 80002942 and 00000263) are described as having restricted addresses in their address field, but are not flagged as restricted.
There are also a number of other records which are flagged as restricted which are not listed above, and use a string containing neither "address" nor "restricted" for their address fields. Some of these contain approximate addresses, so I won't list them here.
I hope this helps --
The Anome (
talk) 13:51, 20 February 2009 (UTC)reply
Yes, it helps very much. I've corresponded with the NPS and shared the above report. Thanks!
doncram (
talk) 01:42, 9 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Some of those in the list above I'm sure are not restricted, just incomplete. For example:
Powhatan Courthouse - Address unknown at this time
Scott County Courthouse - Address Unavailable
I'm willing to bet the addresses of courthouses could be found without too much trouble.
Jonathunder (
talk) 16:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Other
In correspondence, nr_reference notes that "the
Cedar Hill Cemetery [in CT] should have given the associated property as: Northam Memorial Chapel and Gallup Memorial Gateway.... We accidentally put the other name as the "see also" property instead of the historic name." Could watch to see if Northam shows up as See also from the Cedar Hill Cemetery in next version, rather than Cedar Hill Chapel something.
doncram (
talk) 02:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Columbiana County
The Burchfield Homestead is located on East Fourth (4th) Street. There is no street named "Forth" in Salem, Ohio, and the original submission to the NR listed the address correctly. OHPO and NR show the address as "Forth," but this is clearly a typo.
NRIS information issues identifies possible errors and other issues in the
National Register Information System (NRIS) database. This is a working page to detail information system glitches, factual inconsistencies, and potential factual errors in official information regarding properties and districts listed on the
National Register of Historic Places of the United States. It is hoped that this recording may facilitate discussion, correspondence with the National Park Service/National Register, and corrections.
Please do not include here what appear to be errors at nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com — that site contains many errors, especially in its consistently yielding area figures for historic districts that are ten times the actual size. This is the result of that website misinterpreting the data from the NRIS.
Types of issues
Discrepances between NRIS database as downloaded vs. "Weekly Listings" announcements
For example, for
James H. Bounds Barn, in Marshall County, Oklahoma, the only item covering it in NRIS2013a version, as reported in NRHP infobox generator (by checking off "may not actually be listed" checkbox), which actually is supposted to cover up to September 30, 2014 afaik, is just an "DR" entry, which i think means some documentation is received, and it reflects the assignment of a reference number. It does NOT include the actual listing in December 2013 as reported in the Weekly Listings announcment (
"Weekly listings".
National Park Service. December 27, 2013. ) and reported in the Featured listing announcement for this site (
"James H. Bounds Barn". Retrieved October 1, 2019. ). This later listing does use the same reference number. I think the NRIS2013a database somehow has just the initial, "DR" event. Do later versions of NRIS have both or does the actual listing replace the "DR" event?
In Wikipedia, the
National Register of Historic Places listings in Marshall County, Oklahoma page was updated by User:Ebyabe and User:Ipoellet to reflect the December 2013 announcements (and even to add coordinates based on consulting the NRHP registration document and using Google satellite view, I assume). I am afraid there is a discrepancy now between what Wikipedia shows (including this item) vs. what NRIS might show (not including it). --
Doncram (
talk) 21:49, 1 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Changes implemented into NRIS directly, adjusting previous items, not reflected in any "Weekly Listings" announcement
There are several known instances of National Park Service making "corrections" by simply adjusting NRIS, but not reporting on that change by including it into a new Weekly announcement list, confound Wikipedia's coverage, which follows the weekly announcements. Some of these have been covered in
wt:NRHP discussion previously. --
Doncram (
talk) 21:49, 1 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Demolished properties apparently still listed
In many cases a building remains listed on the National Register even though the building was completely demolished. There may be a few cases where the National Register gives a street address where there is no building, while in fact the building still exists. It could be the wrong address, or in rare cases the historic building may have been moved to a different location, as happened for one case in Pasadena, California.
doncram (
talk) 20:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC)reply
The NRIS is an authoritative source on NRHP listing dates, but even in this topic there are issues:
this discussion "Shortest time on Register" at wt:NRHP details a good number of listings for January 1, 19XX of various years that really apparently mean "some unknown date in the year 19XX". --
doncram 18:11, 6 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Not sure how to further research and/or submit this one.
doncram (
talk) 20:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Coordinates corrections
NOTE: COORDINATES CORRECTIONS probably are not worth noting here. See discussion at
#Connecticut: coordinates
Correspondence with the National Register
The National Register has previously corrected NRIS or related webpages in response to error reports on other occasions. For example, an incorrect URL in the current Weekly Listings National Register's "Weekly Featured Listing" , at
http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/nrlist.htm, was fixed today, on Wednesday September 3. Or at least it was fixed, and I received an email reporting it today. This was in response to a report I sent in during the weekend (and Monday was a holiday too).
doncram (
talk) 18:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Also, the National Park Service has corrected other information, such as an incorrect address for a building in Syracuse, apparently reported after a photo of the building at that address was posted in wikipedia. And it addressed a mis-identification of the wrong building in New York City (
Florence Mills House) as a National Historic Landmark, by de-designating the building and removing it from the National Register on January 16, 2009.
Six batches of information issues identified here have so far been reported to the National Register. The first batch was 20 items submitted by email, an edited version of the working page shown at
Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/NRIS information issues Batch report No. 1. I'll report here how it goes. So far NR acknowledged receipt and asked a question or two, but has not reported making any changes to NRIS yet.
doncram (
talk) 21:45, 1 March 2009 (UTC)reply
The NR_RT reports has reviewed those 20, has submitted fixes to be input into NRIS for 19 of them. I note which those are, below. While the changes will be input into NRIS shortly, the NRIS database is only republished a few times per year, so it is not yet known when the fixes will be apparent on-line. They prefer to get error reports batched by state, to facilitate checking with the state in cases needing that. I'll submit more batches by state.
doncram (
talk) 00:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)reply
I've now submitted six batches
batch01: 20 name issues
batch02: 45 coordinates issues
batch03: 73 name issues
batch04: 29 town issues
batch05: 19 county issues
batch06: 26 street address issues
I think that totals to 214 items reported.
doncram (
talk) 21:42, 6 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Update, April 27, 2009: The National Register has verified 66 corrections needed, based on our reports, and is implementing those. Further corrections being researched. Their internal Word document covering the 66 is in tabular format, with column headings "State", "RefNo", "Property name", "Typo", "Correction", and another column for their use. It would probably be most helpful if we presented new batches in that tabular format.
doncram (
talk) 19:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Update: on September 3, I received an update that they are addressing batch04 now, and hope to do another batch before the end of this month. It is slow going, but I believe they appreciate our efforts to identify corrections and will eventually respond to all that we submit.
doncram (
talk) 00:03, 7 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Batch07 to address issues accumulated for state of Ohio alone, of all types of issues noted for NRHP listings in the state. See
wp:NRIS info issues OH, the split-out Ohio-only issues subpage.
doncram (
talk) 16:10, 12 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Van Gilder Hotel (Seward, Kenai Peninsula Borough): Address in the NRIS is 307 Adams Street. It should be
308 Adams Street. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 20:27, 26 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Rika's Landing Roadhouse in Big Delta is listed at mile 252 on the Richardson Highway;
this state webpage lists it at mile 274.5.
Nyttend (
talk) 14:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Alaska: demolished but still listed
Rose Building (Fairbanks, Alaska), NRHP-listed in 1992, reported by editor RadioKAOS to have been demolished, and that the address no longer exists even due to moving of another road. Source cited about the demolition: "Historic Rose building disappears from corner" was published in the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner on September 13, 1998 on page B1. --
doncram 22:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)reply
"Liston Ranger Rear Light Station" includes a typo. "Ranger" is a typo, should be "Range" instead. Note the similarly named NRHP-listed "Liston Range Front Lighthouse" has the word correctly spelled. See
Liston Range Rear Light and
Liston Range Front Light wikipedia articles. --
doncram 19:58, 8 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Achmester is said to be on "Route 429 one mile east of Route 896". Delaware seems to have vastly reduced the use of state route numbers of late, and it's possible the reference to Route 896 was always wrong (though it might have been double-posted with US 301 at one time). At any rate the house is now on Marl Pit Road, east of US 301.
Mangoe (
talk) 13:33, 15 February 2013 (UTC)reply
Delaware: county location issues
Mount Pleasant (Smyrna) and Savin-Wilson House are listed in the NRIS database as in New Castle County. Based on the location descriptions and the geocode coords, both are in Kent County. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 05:08, 13 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Albert Ely Ives and "DeArmond, Asmead and Bickley". The latter is correctly named
DeArmond, Ashmead and Bickley, with correct "Ashmead" rather than "Asmead". The NRIS entry is based on typo in the NRHP nomination document (
https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/98001098_text) that gives incorrect spelling in one place but gives correct spelling elsewhere. Correct spelling confirmed by sources of the wikipedia article on the architectural firm. --
doncram 03:52, 5 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Rosemere Historic District in Orlando is listed as being "Roughly by E. Harvard St., N. Orange Ave., Cornell Ave. & E. Vanderbilt St." — need to add "bounded" after "Roughly".
Nyttend (
talk) 22:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)reply
North Shore Historic District in Miami Beach is listed as being "Roughly by 87th St., Collins Ave., 73rd., and Hawthorne Ave." — need to add "bounded" after "Roughly".
Nyttend (
talk) 22:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Normandy Isles Historic District in Miami Beach is listed as being "Roughly by Normandy Shores Golf Course, Indian Creek, Biscayne Bay, Rue Versailles, 71st., Rue Notre Dame" — need to add "bounded" after "Roughly".
Nyttend (
talk) 22:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Dr. Price House in Live Oak; The address is listed as being at 702 Pine Avenue, but the given coordinates mark it as being at 710-712 Park Street. ----DanTD 15:12, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
Old Deerfield School. NRIS lists 323 NE 2nd St, but actual address (including on the nomination form) is 232 NE 2nd St. kennethaw88 •
talk 19:04, 28 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Homestead Public School-Neva King Cooper School. NRIS lists 520 NW 1st Street, but the correct address is 520 NW 1st Avenue (both streets exist, so there is potential confusion). However, the current school uses the address 151 NW 5th Street. kennethaw88 •
talk 23:15, 30 April 2016 (UTC)reply
The
Lochsa Historical Ranger Station is located on a highway, the
Lewis and Clark Highway. It is open as a museum. In 2010 version of NRIS, it is address restricted. Since its location is public, the location should no longer be regarded as "address restricted". --
doncram 16:24, 30 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Idaho: addresses
Mountain Home Carnegie Library (refnum=78001061) is incorrectly listed in NRIS version 2013a as being at 180 S. 33rd St., East, in
Mountain Home, Idaho. Per Google maps and per its NRHP registration document is it located 180 S. 3rd East.--
Doncram (
talk) 15:01, 15 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Buster Meat Market, which was located at about 250 Main Ave in Challis, no longer existed by 2008, per note at
National Register of Historic Places listings in Custer County, Idaho. It was a one-story stone building like Challis Cold Storage (located at about 300 Main Ave), and I wonder if it was destroyed in the same earthquake, or demolished soon after. The Challis Cold Storage collapse killed two children, apparently, and this might have posed similar danger. --
doncram 14:13, 8 October 2017 (UTC)reply
The
Alvin Eskelton Barn, located northwest of Richfield, Idaho in
Lincoln County, Idaho, built around 1918, listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1983, appears to have been destroyed, per Google and Bing satellite views in 2019. --
Doncram (
talk) 13:55, 3 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Methodist Episcopal Church (Emmett, Idaho), refnum = 80001326, built in 1906. It has also been known as the United Methodist Church. It was located at 132 S. Washington Ave, at 1st St., in Emmett. But the building no longer exists; a modern
True Value Hardware store is now at that address. (per Google Streetview, imagery captured August 2018, accessed November 2019.). --
Doncram (
talk) 22:44, 15 November 2019 (UTC)reply
Priestly's Hydraulic Ram, refnum 75000631, in Idaho. As explained in its article, this apparently no longer exists:
Idaho Power Company senior
archaeologist Shane Baker said: "It may have been taken apart and salvaged for parts. Or moved somewhere else, or perhaps abandoned in place. To my knowledge, no one has ever found any remnants of the facility. The exact location for the ram is unknown, and it may be possible that the first hydroelectric plant built at Thousand Springs in 1912 may have been built over top of the location of the old ram." ( Virginia Hutchins; Tetona Dunlap (June 26, 2016).
"Expert's guide to the Hagerman reach: part 1". MagicValley.Com. )
McCall District Administrative Site is listed in the NRIS database as in Payette County. McCall and the location described in the listing are in Valley County. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 07:16, 18 April 2010 (UTC)reply
There are more usages of Nisbet than Nesbit in NRIS2013a, and the usage of "Nesbit" in NRHP documents can be understood as accidental, where the nominator did not have familiarity with the architect. For example the
Kimberly High School NRHP document is a case where the name is given once only in the "architect/builder" field in section 8, and not used otherwise; the NRHP document author did not show (and did not need to show) familiarity with this architect, so easily could get the spelling wrong. And same for
the NRHP document for Sterry Hall. On the other hand, the
NRHP document for Payettes Lakes Club, which provides biographical information and career overview for the person, consistently uses name "Nisbet" 11 times. "Nisbet" is used in at least 6 NRHP listings, including for example,
NRHP document for Harrison Boulevard Historic District where it is used twice. It is clear to me that "Nisbet" is the correct spelling. --
Doncram (
talk) 00:27, 15 November 2019 (UTC)reply
Idaho: architectural style
Jose and Gertrude Anasola House is recorded in NRIS as having Colonial Revival style, but that is incorrect. Per its Idaho State Historical Society inventory document, it is a lava rock structure build for relatively poor Basque people that is mentioned to be "boxy" in a way vaguely reminiscent of Colonial Revival style appearing in wood frame houses of the wealthy non-Basque in the area. That is far from saying this is Colonial Revival! --
doncram 15:25, 11 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Conant Creek Pegram Truss Railroad Bridge, near
Grainville, Idaho, built in 1894, refnum = 97000756, has incorrect architecture description. It is described in NRIS2013a as a "Pregram through truss bridge", which is incorrect. It is NOT a
through truss bridge. It could accurately be described as a
Pregram truss bridge. The incorrect statement appears to be an NRIS data entry error. --
Doncram (
talk) 23:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Benjamin Watlington House, 206 W. Court St.,
Weiser, Idaho, refnum 91000458, is recorded in NRIS2013a as having "Second Empire" style, but the registration document does not mention the term, calling it "Queen Anne" instead. --
Doncram (
talk) 03:33, 17 January 2020 (UTC)reply
In Shelby County,
Chautauqua Auditorium is listed by NRIS as
Chatauqua Auditorium, an obvious misspelling, since all local and state sources show it spelled correctly Chautauqua Auditorium. I created an article with the right name
Chautauqua Auditorium (Shelbyville, Illinois), with a redirect from the misspelled name. I also moved the existing Chautauqua Auditorium article in order to create a disambiguation page.
clariosophic (
talk) 09:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)reply
It's
Alternate Route 66, Wilmington to Joliet, in Joliet, IL, not "Alternate Route 66, Wilmington to Joilet" in "Joilet", IL. Error in listing name and in town name, both should show "Joliet" rather than typo "Joilet". --
doncram (
talk) 04:32, 31 July 2010 (UTC)reply
The
Berleman House in Edwardsville, IL, is listed in the NRIS as the "Berlemann House", which contradicts its nomination form.
TheCatalyst31Reaction•
Creation 11:19, 22 February 2014 (UTC)reply
"The
Stephenson County Courthouse that was listed on the NRHP isn't standing any longer, in fact it was replaced decades ago. The Register just missed it, Illinois' IHPA, the state preservation office, does not list it in its NRHP properties for Stephenson County....I can provide links above if needed but the photographic evidence compiled at
Category:Soldiers' Monument (Freeport, Illinois) shows the location of the old courthouse and illustrates that it is no longer there. The current courthouse was built in the mid-1970s and per NRHP rules would be ineligible for listing, so there's no chance that is the building the NPS listing is referring to. The old courthouse was quite beautiful, I have seen photos, but it is, alas, gone forever." --Noted by
IvoShandor at
Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Stephenson County, Illinois (exerpt of IvoShandor's comments copied here by doncram)
Chris Jensen Round Barn: "In addition, I am almost 100% positive the Chris Jensen Round Barn is no longer standing. If it is it is NOT at the location the NRHP lists. I used the location map included with the nomination materials in my search for it. I found every single other listed round barn in Stephenson County but could not find the Jensen Round Barn. There's a chance it's overgrown, or part of it is standing in its location. If anyone has any information to confirm my first-hand (original) research please note it here. For now I am going to leave it listed. The IHPA informed me that they are trying to alleviate some of the problems in the HAARGIS database which lists on the NRHP properties with links to their nomination materials, so maybe when those changes go online the updated list will reflect its loss. If it was delisted, the NPS would have documentation of that somewhere.--
IvoShandor (
talk) 07:17, 24 July 2009 (UTC)" --Noted by
IvoShandor at
Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Stephenson County, Illinois (exerpt of IvoShandor's comments copied here by doncram)reply
Jewel Tea Company Building in Barrington, Lake County was torn down in Feb. 2005 according to a local newspaper article online (actually it said the entire facade was torn down, and that demolition continues, despite last minute efforts...) I visited the site today and will get photos of the empty lot.
Smallbones (
talk) 20:56, 29 January 2010 (UTC)reply
In Lake County,
Lloyd Lewis House was shown in the Wikipedia NRHP list for Lake County (and therefore presumably is listed by NRIS) at "153 Little Street Mary". The correct street name (shown on Google Maps, among other sources) is "Little St. Mary's Road". "St." does not always equal "Street" in an address. I changed it.
Jameslwoodward (
talk) 11:35, 26 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Bell Miller Apartments, 835 S. Second St., Springfield, IL. Springfield is spelled "Spingfield" in NRIS database. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 06:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)reply
James S. Thompson House, 807 North Street New Boston IL. In the database the address temporarily showed up as 408 E. Jefferson Street on 2/9/15. Also, the current address is listed at 804 North St, which needs to be changed as the address was changed by the state. (This was noticed at
this AfD.)
Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 06:00, 10 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Illinois: county location issues
Stone Arch Bridge, Danville, Illinois is listed in the NRIS as in Jersey County. It's in Vermilion County.
[1] --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 21:52, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Illinois: architect, builder, engineer issues
Five NRIS listings give incorrect architect name "Joseph F. Booten" when the correct spelling is "Joseph F. Booton", as documented in
https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/64000178_text the corresponding MPS / TR document. Change from "Booten" to "Booton" in architect name for each of:
The NRIS lists a "State Steet Bridge" in
Erie, Kansas, acknowledging that it's on "State St. over Neosho River tributary" — plainly a simple typo for "State Street Bridge".
Nyttend (
talk) 04:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)reply
submitted in batch01:15, reported by NRHP_RT to be fixing in NRIS as of 3/4/2009.
doncram (
talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)reply
"Northup Theater" in Syracuse — according to a sign in front of the theater (
picture), it's spelled "Northrup", with two "r"s.
Nyttend (
talk) 11:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Cato District No. 4 School in rural
Crawford County, Kansas is listed at 720th Avenue and 200th Street in Cato: these two roads don't meet. Check Google Maps to follow Highway 69 north from
Pittsburg until it meets 720th, and you'll see that 720th Avenue doesn't exist between 180th and 210th Streets. On the other hand, the same address appears at
this Kansas State Historical Society page, which includes a picture and a short description of the school. I wonder if it's perhaps shown on the Mapquest aerial photo map: go to
this Mapquest page, scroll southward along 200th a couple of miles after it bends eastward and then southward again; the site I'm wondering about is the buildings just south of point where it turns directly southward again, where you can see a few buildings on both sides of the road (almost where the two roads would meet if they continued). Elkman doesn't list the school in the county table generator, while plugging the ID number (06000771) into the infobox generator gives no coords, and the resulting page says "Note: This property may not actually be listed on the National Register - listing code is DR". The Wisconsin Historical Society has a copy of the 8 September 2006 listings
here, which includes the school, but the
official listings page doesn't have it. I'm rather confused; hopefully this explains the situation well.
Nyttend (
talk) 00:55, 23 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Jewell County Jail: location is given on the nom form as "Northeast corner of Center and Madison". In fact, it's at the southwest corner of that intersection: see
photo including street sign, noting direction of shadows on a photo taken close to noon.
Ammodramus (
talk) 14:43, 8 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Midland Hotel in Wilson, Ellsworth County: address is given on nom form as "414 26th Avenue". It should be "414 26th Street": see
"Contact Us" at
Midland Railroad Hotel website; ground-truthing confirms that in Wilson, streets are numbered while avenues are lettered, e.g. "Avenue E".
Ammodramus (
talk) 03:06, 5 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Thornburg Barn (refnum 09000192), in Ness County, is described at the NRIS page as being "1.5 mi. W. of D Rd." According to the nom form, verified by ground-truthing, it's 0.5 miles west of D Rd.
Ammodramus (
talk) 15:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Atchison Post Office (refnum 72000484) in Atchison is listed as being at "621 Kansas St." It's actually 621 Kansas Ave.
Ammodramus (
talk) 17:42, 3 April 2015 (UTC)reply
McInteer Villa (refnum 75000707) in Atchison is listed as being at "1301 Kansas St."; it's actually 1301 Kansas Ave.
Ammodramus (
talk) 17:57, 3 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Arthur Larkin House near
Ellsworth, Kansas is identified in NRIS and its 1974 NRHP documentation as being "0.25 miles south of Ellsworth off
K-45. K-45 no longer exists as a numbered highway; the house's address is now 1126 Hwy 14, Ellsworth, KS 67439 (per Google Maps). --
Doncram (
talk) 16:46, 22 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Kansas: existing property, once listed, but no longer appearing in NRIS
East Riley Creek Bridge in Republic County, Kansas. The Elkman tool returns a note: "This property may not actually be listed on the National Register - listing code is DR". The property appears in the
Weekly Listings for 1990; it was listed Jan 4, 1990, but appears in the weekly list for for May 11, 1990. There is no sign that it's been delisted: it appears in the NPS Focus website, under Republic County; it's listed on the Kansas Historical Society's
Historic Places in Republic County page; and recent photographs show no sign of removal or significant degradation (see
Commons:Category:East Riley Creek Bridge on Queen (Republic County, Kansas) for photos). --
Ammodramus (
talk) 14:03, 19 December 2010 (UTC)reply
Kansas: architect/builder issues
Comanche County Courthouse (Kansas), refnum 02000395, was designed by
Routledge & Hertz. Architect misspelled in NRIS 2010a as "Routletge". (Note the name of the site was misspelled as "Comache County Courthouse" also, as noted above). --
doncram 14:57, 2 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Fred G. McCune is NRIS-listed as architect of 2 buildings;
Fred C. McCune is listed for 2 other buildings. One spelling is incorrect. --
doncram 22:35, 19 November 2017 (UTC)reply
Johnson's Chapel AME Church appears to have been lost; a 2014 photo shows a new First Baptist Church was built on its site. --
Doncram (
talk) 17:44, 24 November 2017 (UTC)reply
Yatesville Covered Bridge (refnum 76000910) included in NRIS2013a no longer exists, per LandmarkHunter and per Google satellite view. --
Doncram (
talk) 22:23, 8 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Audubon School, refnum 98001497, at 1400 Clay St. in
Henderson, Kentucky, in Henderson County. Was standing in 2019 Google Streetview imagery, has been demolished by 2022 from satellite imagery. --
Doncram (
talk) 12:48, 23 August 2022 (UTC)reply
submitted in batch01:18. NRHP_RT reports that apparently the length of the property name is more than the NRIS system handles properly, so this may not be fixed, 3/4/2009.
doncram (
talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)reply
The full name of the racetrack
Keeneland is not "Keeeneland--Keeneland Racetrack". From looking at the nom formhttps://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NHLS/86003487_text, it appears the form was filled out incorrectly by putting the "common" name on the same line as the "historic" name.
NiagaraDon't give up the ship 00:12, 2 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Monsieur Giron's Confectionery is spelled correctly with "confectionery" in its NRHP application, but a typo was introduced in NRIS where it is listed as "Monsieur Giron's Confectionary". Noted by
User:Tamanoeconomico who created the article. --
Doncram (
talk) 04:52, 5 May 2019 (UTC)reply
NRIS has it recorded garbled up as something like "James–Trotter Lindsay, William, House" while it needs to be
James Lindsay--William Trotter House. See the NRHP document, a Kentucky Historic Resources Inventory form at
here. --
Doncram (
talk) 23:24, 24 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Louisville Municipal Bridge, Pylons and Administration Building, Spans Ohio River between Louisville, KY and Jeffersonville, IN: Listed in the NRIS database as in Louisville, KY (Jefferson County) and Clark County, KY. It should be Clark County, IN which is on the other side of the Ohio River from Louisville. Clark County, KY is about 100 miles to the east. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 03:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Central Kentucky Blue Grass Seed Co., at 321 Henry St.,
Lexington, Kentucky, was listed August 03, 2005 and has refnum = 0500079. It doesn't appear in Elkman's county-list-table generator for Fayette County, KY. Since it is in Lexington, which is in (and the same as) Fayette County, it seems the NRIS county identifier for it must be off. Don't know what it indicates. The Elkman NRHP infobox output does not include county.
doncram (
talk) 21:04, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Kentucky: address restricted unnecessarily, doc should be made available
Raccoon John Smith House, for which
NARA says doc is Fully restricted, but it is on a public street and the address is known. Doc Not available at NPS. Is there any reason why the documentation of why this is NRHP-listed should not be publicly available? --
Doncram (
talk) 00:45, 6 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Kentucky: address issues
Erlanger Proper Subdivision Historic District is listed as being "Roughly bounded by by Hulbert, Division, Crescent, Dixie, and Graves." Correct the "by by" error, and remove the unnecessary period from the end of the description.
Nyttend (
talk) 22:17, 26 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Jewish Hospital Complex is listed at 236 E. Kennedy St., but there is no E. Kennedy St. in Louisville. The geocode coordinates in the NRIS database correspond to 236 E. Kentucky St. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 20:54, 7 April 2012 (UTC)reply
J. Hawkins Hart House is listed at "630 St." in NRIS2013a; its actual street address is 630 Center St., per its NRHP document. --
Doncram (
talk) 04:14, 16 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Lost Horse Fireman's Cabin, refnum 88003437, in Ravalli County is listed in NRIS2013a as "Lost Horse Fireman's Cabin (24RA197)". The
NRHP nomination document shows the number should be an alternate name, not part of the actual main name.--
Doncram (
talk) 22:50, 7 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Eureka Community Hall - looks like the wrong westerly coordinate. 116 degrees puts it barely in the county / state in the middle of a forest and not reachable by roads. The community of
Eureka, Montana is at 115 degrees, putting the community center in the edge of the community. Royalbroil 03:17, 13 August 2013 (UTC)reply
The
Hester E. Suydam Boarding House, at 209 W. River St. in
Fromberg, Montana, built in 1907 is recorded in NRIS as having architecture: Four Square. That is consistent with a note in its registration document, but the building does not appear to be
American Four Square at all. It is not square. It does not have four-way or any type of symmetry. It does have dormer windows, which is common in the style, but it has two on one side and one on another, as can be seen in nomination photos. The text of the document does not mention "Four Square", it only appears as a database-type entry for "Architectural Classification" as "Other: One-and-one-half story Four Square" (which appears to be wrong). Also the text description calls it a two-story building with a one-and-a-half-story extension, also inconsistent there. So, the Wikipedia article now carries no mention of "Four Square"; it should be dropped from NRIS. --
Doncram (
talk) 20:17, 6 September 2019 (UTC)reply
The
Algernon S. Paddock House in Beatrice, Gage County, Nebraska, is no longer extant. According to a personal communication from Audrey Mohr at the Nebraska State Historical Society, it was "demolished in 1994 and offically removed from the National Register in 2005". However, it still appears at the Focus site.
Ammodramus (
talk) 17:27, 26 March 2012 (UTC)reply
Big Papilion Creek Bridge in Sarpy County, Nebraska has apparently been removed and replaced. The
nom form describes and depicts a steel pony truss bridge. The current bridge on the site is a concrete beam bridge: see
photo at Commons. According to
uglybridges.com, the current bridge was built in 2000.
Ammodramus (
talk) 13:00, 21 September 2012 (UTC)reply
Adamson Bridge in Cherry County, Nebraska, has apparently been removed and replaced. The current Nebraska Highway 97 crossing is a concrete beam bridge: see
photo at Commons. According to
uglybridges.com, it was built in 1994. Google's satellite photo shows no other bridge in the vicinity; it appears that there may once have been a bridge about 1000 ft upstream from the current bridge. The Adamson Bridge does not appear on the Nebraska State Historical Society's list of
"Nebraska National Register Sites in Cherry County".
Ammodramus (
talk) 19:16, 26 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Bridge (refnum 92000761) in Gage County, Nebraska is apparently no longer extant. The bridge is described as crossing Sicily Creek, and the description and photos indicate a pony truss; both the UTM coordinates and the township-range-section information in the nominating form place it on SW 45th Rd. The bridge that presently carries SW 45th across Sicily Creek is a beam bridge: see photos at
Commons:Category:Sicily Creek SW 45th Rd bridges (Gage County, Nebraska). According to
uglybridges.com, the current bridge was built in 2003.
Ammodramus (
talk) 19:05, 27 June 2013 (UTC)reply
Wyoming Bridge in Otoe County, Nebraska is apparently no longer extant. UTM coordinates and township-range-section description in nominating form concur in placing it on county road 60. The current crossing of Wyoming Creek on CR60 is a beam bridge; the
uglybridges.com website gives its date as 2003. Photos of the current bridge are at
Commons:Category:Wyoming Creek bridge, CR 60, Otoe County, Nebraska. In photographing the current bridge in June 2013, the photographer looked up- and downstream from it, and saw no sign of an older bridge, nor any indication that the road once crossed at another point nearby on the creek. The bridge is not listed at the Nebraska State Historical Society's
"Nebraska National Register Sites in Otoe County" webpage; a Wayback Machine check indicated that it was listed on the page as of June 1, 2002, suggesting that it was deliberately removed and not accidentally omitted.
Ammodramus (
talk) 14:33, 17 July 2013 (UTC)reply
McCartney School District 17 in Otoe County, Nebraska, has apparently been removed or demolished. The
NRHP nominating form lists a single contributing building, a red brick schoolhouse, with no contributing objects or structures. June 2013 photos of the site, available at
Commons:Category:McCartney School District 17 (Otoe County, Nebraska), show no such building; a basketball hoop and a pump visible in the photos are mentioned in the nom form, but not listed as contributing. A
July 14, 2009 article in the Nebraska City News-Press recounts the Nebraska City School Board's decision to sell the property.
Ammodramus (
talk) 15:11, 17 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Ponca Creek Bridge (refnum 92000769) in Boyd County is apparently no longer extant. See
photo of bridge currently at the crossing. According to
uglybridges.com, the current bridge was built in 1994. When I visited the site in 2016, I couldn't see any signs of an older bridge up- or downstream from the current one. —
Ammodramus (
talk) 12:53, 18 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Burwell Bridge, built in 1940, 24 feet wide, was replaced in 2007 by a bridge that is generally similar but is 44 feet wide, and photos in 2010 clearly differ from the NRHP photo. Uglybridges.com site pointed out by Ammodramus reports the 2007 info. --
doncram 23:43, 13 May 2017 (UTC)reply
For the Miller Hotel in
Brown County, Nebraska, the list of other names includes "Luerhs Rooming House". This should almost certainly be "Luehrs": see
photo. A Google search suggests that the name "Luehrs" occurs in the
Long Pine, Nebraska area; "Luerhs" apparently does not.
The Massow, Joachim--Schultz, Charles and Annie, House in Otoe County, Nebraska appears to be misspelled: it should be "Schutz" instead of "Schultz". The name is spelled "Schutz" at the Nebraska State Historical Society's
"Nebraska National Register Sites in Otoe County" webpage, and throughout the
nom form. The site doesn't appear at Focus, but it's spelled "Schultz" in the
September 7, 2012 weekly list.
Ammodramus (
talk) 15:55, 22 July 2013 (UTC)reply
W.F. Hitchcock House is correct as name, per the NRHP nomination document. It is listed as "W.F. Hitchcok House" in NRIS2013a. --
Doncram (
talk) 10:00, 19 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Red Cloud Bridge in Webster County is listed as being on Nebraska Highway 281, but it's actually U.S. Route 281.
Nyttend (
talk) 23:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)reply
Starke Round Barn near Red Cloud is listed as being on U.S. Route 163, but it's actually U.S. Route 136.
Nyttend (
talk) 03:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)reply
Humphrey City Hall in Humphrey is listed as being at 407 S. 4th St. It's actually in the 100 block of S. 4th St. There's no address on the building.
Ammodramus (
talk) 17:53, 29 October 2009 (UTC)reply
Columbia Hall (Dannebrog, Nebraska) in Howard County is listed as being at "Jct. of NE 58 and W. Roger Wetsch Ave." There are two issues here. First, the name of the avenue is misspelt: it should be "Roger Welsch Ave." Second, Roger Welsch Ave. is the name given to NE 58 in its passage through Dannebrog: so this "junction" is about a quarter-mile long. A better description would be "intersection of Roger Welsch Ave. and Mill St."
Ammodramus (
talk) 20:47, 6 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Cather House in Red Cloud (Webster County) is listed as being at "SW corner of 3rd and Cedar Sts.". It's actually at the SW corner of 3rd Avenue and Cedar Street: see
this photo.
Miner Brothers Store in Red Cloud (Webster County) is listed as being at "3rd and Webster Sts." It's actually at the NW corner of 3rd Avenue and Webster Street.
Hastings Municipal Airport Hangar-Building No. 1 in Hastings (Adams County) is listed as being at 3100 E. Twelfth Street. It's actually at 3100 W. Twelfth Street. The West Twelfth address appears on the Nebraska State Historical Society's online
nomination form, and was confirmed by ground truthing.
Ammodramus (
talk) 16:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Rackett Grange Hall No. 318 in Garden County, Nebraska, is listed as being at "9250 NE 193". 193 is a county road, not a Nebraska highway; the correct address, as given on the nom form and verified by ground-truthing, is "9250 Road 193".
Ammodramus (
talk) 13:41, 8 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Edgar A. Burnett House in Lancaster County, Nebraska, is listed as being at "3256 Holdrede Street". The correct spelling of the street, as given in the
nom form, is "Holdrege".
Ammodramus (
talk) 04:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC)reply
The
States Ballroom in
Bee in
Seward County, Nebraska is listed as being "Off Nebraska Highway 415". There are two problems with this. First, Nebraska Highway 415 doesn't exist; the village of Bee is about a mile east of Nebraska Highway 15, which is probably what was meant. Second, this is not a very precise address; within Bee, according to Google Maps, the ballroom is at the northeast corner of 2nd and Elm Streets.
Ammodramus (
talk) 04:23, 23 February 2012 (UTC)reply
Immaculate Conception Church and School in Omaha, Douglas County, Nebraska, is listed as being at 1024 S. 24th Street. The church's address is actually 2708 S. 24th Street (see
church's website). The school's address is 2716 S. 24th Street (see
photo). The address appears incorrectly in the nom form.
Ammodramus (
talk) 18:38, 28 March 2012 (UTC)reply
Nehawka Public Library in Nehawka, Cass County, Nebraska, is listed as being at the southeast corner of Elm and Master Streets. It's actually at the southeast corner of Elm and Maple: see
photo. The address appears incorrectly in the nom form.
Ammodramus (
talk) 20:11, 19 April 2012 (UTC)reply
There are two issues with the
James and Margaret Greer Farmstead in Cass County, Nebraska. First, it is listed as being at "6135 202nd St." The actual address is 6315 202nd St. (see
photo of address sign). The address appears incorrectly on the first page of the
nom form, but correctly on p. 16, under "Property Owner". Second, the property is missing from the NRHP Focus website; the Walker Gilmore Site (22CC28), which immediately precedes it alphabetically, is listed twice for Cass County.
Ammodramus (
talk) 17:54, 16 July 2012 (UTC)reply
Gehling's Theatre in Falls City, Richardson County, Nebraska, is listed as being at "1592 Stone St." The actual address is 1519 Stone St. The address appears incorrectly on the
nom form, which shows the building's present-day use as a True Value hardware store; the correct address is given at the
Falls City True Value website.
Ammodramus (
talk) 02:16, 11 June 2013 (UTC)reply
Bloody Run Bridge in Gage County has been moved from its original site; according to personnel at the Gage County Historical Society Museum, it is now serving as a footbridge at Big Blue Water Park in Beatrice, Nebraska. The new location is (40.262093,-96.737572). According to
uglybridges.com, the bridge now at the Bloody Run site was built in 1994.
Ammodramus (
talk) 19:40, 27 June 2013 (UTC)reply
US Post Office-Hebron in Thayer County is incorrectly listed as being at "145 North 15th Street. This incorrect address appears on the first page of the nom form; however, the second page gives the location as "the southwest corner of 5th and Olive Streets". The
U.S. Postal Service's locator tool gives the address as "145 N 5th Street". —
Ammodramus (
talk) 22:35, 24 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Sacred Heart Catholic Church (Omaha, Nebraska), designed by
Fisher & Lawrie in North Omaha, Nebraska, is listed in NRIS as having architect "Fisher & Laurie". The correct spelling is "Fisher & Lawrie". There are multiple other NRIS listings having "Fisher & Lawrie". --
doncram 15:23, 28 September 2012 (UTC)reply
Old Fremont Post Office's architect was
W.J. Edbrooke. However the NRIS database shows W.J. Edbrook, repeating the "W.J. Edbrook" mentioned just once in the NRHP nomination document. However that was clearly a typo in the NRHP nomination. The architect of many similar buildings of the era is quite well known and the correct spelling includes the ending "e". --
Doncram (
talk) 00:53, 21 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Red Cloud United States Post Office, at 300 N. Webster in
Red Cloud, Nebraska, built in 1941 in
Moderne style, includes 3 murals by
Archie Musick. NRIS however mentions lists
William E.L. Bunn, an artist who did different post offices' murals including at least one other Nebraska one, as a builder/architect/other associated person. The name appears in the NRHP nomination doc, but that appears to be an error, as if the form was partially filled out for a different post office. There is no mention of this post office in other coverage of Bunn, as far as I can tell. The site was listed on the
National Register of Historic Places in 1992 as U.S. Post Office-Red Cloud, with refnum = 92000474. I removed mention of Bunn from its article. --
Doncram (
talk) 02:50, 7 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Further, looking now at the MPS document by Carol Ahlgren, it is completely clear that Bunn did not have association with Red Cloud post office. And Ahlgren was author of each of the individual post office nomination documents I think, and she authored the MPS document about the group, so it seems certain she or her typist just made an error in document preparation for the Red Cloud one. The MPS is:
The date of construction for
Webster County Courthouse (Nebraska) is given as 1883. The nominating form lists two significant dates: 1914, the year of construction of the courthouse itself; and 1887, the year of construction of the jail and jailer's residence. The latter date on the nominating form, which I obtained from the Nebraska State Historical Society, was apparently typed with a different typewriter; it's possible that the form as originally submitted to the NHS bore the mistaken date 1883, which was subsequently whited out and corrected.
Ammodramus (
talk) 14:50, 8 June 2010 (UTC)reply
For
Rad Jan Kollar cis 101 Z.C.B.J., the accompanying photos are available online but not the NRHP nomination text itself. Text should be at:
text. Photos are at:
photos. --
doncram 19:49, 30 August 2017 (UTC)reply
For
Kearney National Guard Armory (currently a redlink), the Photos PDF at NPS is a copy of the Text PDF and the photos are not provided.[1]
John Janecek House #82003185, NRIS reports 106 acres, too big for a city block. That does appear in NRIS, and must be a data entry typo there.
NRHP nom gives 1.6 acres. I had
added this to article, even though questioning it in my edit summary, back in 2012. The nom doc says it is an entire city block, which I accepted as corroboration. However elsewhere in the nom appears the 1.6 though. --
doncram 15:52, 26 August 2017 (UTC)reply
I am simply confused by NRIS and NRHP nom doc information about
Francovich House. NRIS includes entry that it was NRHP-listed on April 25, 1983. Its NRHP inventory-nomination dated December 1983 states it was listed on the
National Register of Historic Places on April 25, 1983 but was delisted later the same year, in October, upon it being moved to save it from demolition.[1] What is the deal, is it re-listed on basis of the December inventory-nomination? Or does it remain delisted? Something is wrong in the NRIS record, either way. --
doncram 17:02, 25 July 2013 (UTC)reply
NRIS has apparent typo "1889" for built date of
Francovich House, at 557 Washington St. in
Reno, Nevada, which, according to its NRHP inventory-nomination doc was built during 1899-1900. See above discussion of same property's listing status confusion.[1]--
doncram 17:02, 25 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Luella Garvey House, Nevada, designed by
Paul Revere Williams per sources on the architect and per NRHP document while NRIS says "William". Change to "Williams". --
doncram 22:27, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Nevada: address issues
Immaculate Conception Church (Sparks, Nevada) is listed as being at "590 Pyramid Way" in Sparks. The actual address is 528 Pyramid Way: see
photo (street address is at upper right, on brick column). I didn't upload photos to document the fact, but 590 is a relatively recent frame house next to the church.
Ammodramus (
talk) 01:47, 3 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Capital Theater (Ely, Nevada) is listed as being at 460 Aultman Street. In a
2014 photo, the addresses 464, 466, and 468 are visible on the three businesses occupying the building.
Ammodramus (
talk) 00:36, 9 September 2014 (UTC)reply
American Legion Hall (McGill, Nevada) is listed as being at 24 Fourth Street. The correct address is almost certainly 24 Avenue J. A
2014 photo shows that the building faces J. Moreover, it is on the southeast side of Fourth, which is the odd-numbered side; it's on the even-numbered side of J, next to a building facing J with the street number 22, and across J from numbers 23 and 25. (The building in question has no street number on it.)
Ammodramus (
talk) 01:03, 9 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Brick Store (Bath, New Hampshire) is listed on Main Street. It is actually on Lisbon Road, which is the main street of the town, at the intersection of West Bath Road. For evidence, go to the cited location in Google Street view -- the building is hard to miss.. . . . Jim . . . .
Jameslwoodward (
talk •
contribs) 15:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Tuftonboro United Methodist Church, is listed in NRIS as having address: N side of NH 171, E of jct. with Durgan Rd.,
Tuftonboro, New Hampshire. The correct spelling is Durgin Rd., not Durgan Rd. Noted by editor Ken Gallager in correcting the address in the wikipedia article. It was not an error in NRIS data entry; the NRHP nomination document
https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/97000505_text here] shows the incorrect spelling. Correct to: "Durgin" from incorrect "Durgan". --
doncram 14:29, 26 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Farmer's Hall is incorrectly listed as being located in Moorestown Township. At the time Farmer's Hall was added to NRIS, Mount Laurel did not have it's own post office and got all it's mail through Moorestown. However, Farmer's Hall is actually located in
Mount Laurel Township, at the foot of Mount Laurel Mountain and across the street from
Evesham Friends Meeting House.
There's some kind of error here. According to the
USGS GNIS database, there is no Waldwick, NY. Both listings are coded as "listed" in the raw NPS NRIS database and they have different reference numbers. But both have the same address and are identified as being part of the "Stone Houses of Bergen County TR" multiple listing (Waldwick, NJ is in Bergen County). Perhaps there's an Albert Smith House listed on the NRHP somewhere in New York, but it seems doubtful since the New York Historic Preservation Office doesn't seem to have a record of it. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 03:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)reply
I think someone got confused between Waldwick and Warwick, New York.
Daniel Case (
talk) 16:14, 19 June 2011 (UTC)reply
architects
East Orange Station, 65 City Hall Plaza, East Orange, N.J., is listed as having architect (Nies,F.W.), which appears possibly to be a typo for
Frank J. Nies. There are numerous NRHP listings for F.J. Nies or other variations. --
doncram 20:44, 21 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Town location issues
Risley School was listed 5/4/2011 as in Ester Manor City, NJ. It should be
Estell Manor, NJ (the USGS GNIS database lists the place name as Estell Manor, not Estell Manor City). --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 00:07, 20 May 2011 (UTC)reply
New Jersey: street address issues
Vail-Trust House, Somerset County, is listed incorrectly as located at 225 Greenbrook Road. The correct address is 255 Greenbrook Road, as show on page 12 of section 8 and the appendix diagrams of the
nomination. (the first page of the nomination is incorrect)
Zeete (
talk) 19:25, 11 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Cary Station, Morris County, is marked as Building/Site on its
nomination, but incorrectly marked as Historic District in NRIS/Elkman.
Zeete (
talk) 11:32, 5 May 2014 (UTC)reply
How many other discrepancies between our lists, diligently developed using NRIS as of 2011 or so, plus Weekly List announcements, vs. actual listings, might exist? There have been a few others at least. The Weekly lists have sometimes been edited later, without notice, too, which seems wrong, because any fix should be announced in a new Weekly list, and we figured out we missed a few that got done that way, but others we might never have noticed. --
Doncram (
talk) 00:15, 28 August 2019 (UTC)reply
New Mexico: address restricted unnecessarily?
A number of places listed in July and December 1990, including houses and the
Mora Historic District, within
National Register of Historic Places listings in Mora County, New Mexico seem to have been inappropriately identified as "Address restricted", so NRHP docs are not available for them. Note the Mora Historic District includes NRHP-listed
St. Vrain Mill among a total of 70 contributing buildings on 41 acres. Some of these covered by
Historic and Architectural Resources of the Upland Valleys MPS, which shows some redactions (probably unnecessary). How is the village of Mora supposed to proceed with its development, discussed in that MPS, if it is secret what properties are covered in NRHP and may be eligible for historic renovation grants? These are not archeological dig sites! I went ahead sometime to create
Daniel Cassidy House, about a hipped cottage, with skimpy sources. The NRHP docs are not available, but should be. I just spot-checked for whether docs are available at
NP Gallery search site, find there has been no change, they are not available. The ones that appear wrongly classified are:
Perhaps there are more.
Note from the MPS: "The repository for all of the inventory materials is the Historic Preservation Division of the New Mexico Office of Cultural Affairs in Santa Fe, New Mexico." --
Doncram (
talk) 04:59, 10 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Like, I presume that the historic area of Anton Chico is publicly known, though presumably not the exact borders of the historic district because of the withholding of information by the restriction, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of historic designation? --
Doncram (
talk) 17:44, 16 July 2019 (UTC)reply
The
Schmitt-Laemmle House at 1106 Columbia in Las Vegas, San Miguel County, is no longer at that address. Photos of the parking lot now at the site are at
Commons:Category:Las Vegas, New Mexico 1106 Columbia Street. The occupant of 1108 Columbia told the photographer that the house had been acquired and demolished by New Mexico Highlands University.
Ammodramus (
talk) 03:30, 24 February 2012 (UTC)reply
The
MacDonald Merchandise Building (refnum 80002573) in Magdalena, Socorro County, is apparently no longer extant.
"New Mexico's Rich Cultural Heritage", dated March 2012, issued by
New Mexico Historic Preservation Division, p. 51, lists "Magdalena Merchantile Building" as "(REMOVED SR & NR)" [uppercase in original]. According to the nom form, this is another name for the building. Google's street view shows no building along Highway 60 that matches the photos or the description in the nom form; a ground search through Magdalena, which isn't very large, also turned up no two-story stone buildings.
Ammodramus (
talk) 14:14, 11 March 2016 (UTC)reply
The site in
Santa Rosa, New Mexico with refnum 84000633 is listed in NRIS2013a as the "Julius J. Moise House", but the NRHP nomination document for it is clear that it is the
J. Julian Moise House instead. Appears to be a NRIS data entry error. --
Doncram (
talk) 05:11, 16 July 2019 (UTC)reply
The
J.P. Strong Store, which in fact is located on the southwest corner of the junction of
NM 120 and
NM 442 in
Ocate, New Mexico, is stated in NRIS and in the NRHP nomination document to be located on
21 rather than
NM 442. But that seems to have been an error, or highway numbering has changed since listing date, based on Google Maps and upon whatever sources underly Wikipedia's articles about 21 and 442. --
Doncram (
talk) 06:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Queen Anne House in La Luz is listed on "Kearny St"; Google Maps and a local say that it's "Kearney St."
Nyttend (
talk) 20:25, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Main Street Commercial Building (refnum 82003336) in Magdalena, Socorro County, has its address given only as "Main St.", which is not terribly helpful. The complete address is "106 N. Main Street"; the number is visible in
this 2013 photo.
Ammodramus (
talk) 19:26, 18 September 2013 (UTC)reply
The
MacDonald Merchandise Building (refnum 80002573) in Magdalena, Socorro County (which is apparently no longer extant: see section "Demolished but still listed") is listed on "U.S. 90". The
nom form correctly describes it as "Highway 60". U.S. 90 does not go anywhere near Magdalena.
Ammodramus (
talk) 14:23, 11 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Bank of Portales (refnum 84000635) in Roosevelt County is listed at "123 Main". This is either incomplete or incorrect. The building is located on the northeast side of Main northwest of 1st: see
photo of intersection. There is no address on the building, but the building immediately northwest of it bears the number "106", suggesting that addresses on that side of the street are even-numbered. A coffee-shop, Do Drop In, is located at 123 S. Main (see
Roosevelt County Chamber listing); this is at the north corner of Main and 2nd. It looks as though the bank building's address should be 123 N. Main, or that the 123 is incorrect. —
Ammodramus (
talk) 01:30, 10 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Springer Building in Albuquerque is listed having architect/builders
Miles Brittelle, Sr. and
George M. Williamson (architect), who both in fact were associates of
Trost & Trost at some point. However the latter person was not an architect of the building. The NRHP document is a bit confusing, but when read carefully seems to clarify that Williamson did some other design work for the Springer Transfer Company, but he was not an architect of the Springer Building, which instead was designed by the Springer Transfer Company with architect Miles Brittelle, Sr. being involved (perhaps as a direct employee of the Springer Transfer Company). So Williamson should be dropped from NRIS mention. The passage in NRHP document is:
The Springer Transfer Company was founded in Alhuquerque by $r} William Springer, who began in the drayage business. Local hauling of furniture, sand and earth was the main activity of the company in those days. In January, 1918, the Springer Transfer Company was incorporated in the new State of New Mexico. Mr. Springer served as president until his death in 1925, when Mr. Bennett replaced him. By 1925 the business had grown to "engage in the storage business to provide a potentially profitable service to the growing population of Albuquerque." A warehouse on East Central Avenue was purchased first; then in 1929 Springer Transfer engaged architect G. M. Williamson to complete a new office and storage facility. Williamson was an associate of
Trost and Trost in the 1920's. However, it was his own firm, including architect Miles Brittelle, Sr., which designed the Springer Building in 1929.
Old Settler's Pavilion near Pekin, North Dakota, built in 1920 is asserted by NRIS to also have known as Stump Kae Park Pavilion. Is that a horrible typo for
Stump Lake Pavilion???? NRHP nom doc not available online. --
doncram 23:56, 11 August 2013 (UTC)reply
North Dakota: architect names
For
Beulah School, NRIS has two typos in its architects names. It is a work of Frederick Walcott Keith (not Kieth as appears in NRIS) and it is a work of Herman Leonhard (not Leonard as appears in NRIS). See NRHP nom doc available at
https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/97001200_text.
First State Bank (Shattuck, Oklahoma) (refnum 83004170), listed as 239 S. Main in Shattuck, Ellis County, is apparently no longer extant. A
2016 photo of the northwest corner of 3rd and Main shows a car-lot there; the southernmost building in the block is 227 S. Main. A ground search turned up no buildings on Main that matched the photo in the nom form.
Ammodramus (
talk) 15:15, 29 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Sinclair Loading Rack, near Seminole, Oklahoma, built in 1928, listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1985. It was demolished, apparently, since. --
Doncram (
talk) 14:25, 11 November 2018 (UTC)reply
66 Motel (Tulsa), in Tulsa, Oklahoma, demolished by wrecking ball in 2001. --Doncram (
talk,
contribs) 10:08, 23 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Oklahoma: property names
Sod House (Cleo Springs, Oklahoma), listed September 29, 1970, About 4 mi. N of Cleo Springs, is named something like "Sod House _" in NRIS. This causes problems in computer-generated lists and so on. I assume correction should be to, simply, "Sod House".
doncram (
talk) 18:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)reply
To expand:
Morrison Baptist Church in
Morrison, Oklahoma is the church; it is misspelled as "Morison Baptist Church" in NRIS; change 1 r to 2 r's in the church name in NRIS. --
doncram 18:00, 29 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Nail's Station, which is near
Kenefic, Oklahoma, is listed in NRIS as being "2 mi. SW of Kenefick" near "
Keneflick, Oklahoma". Listed June 29, 1972. Typo: Kenefick in location field; Keneflick in town field. Correction: Kenefic in both places. Note, Kenefic is the town given for another NRHP listing in the county (
Bryan County, Oklahoma).
doncram (
talk) 03:45, 8 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Hildebrand Mill in Delaware County, Oklahoma is listed as being near to "Siloam Springs, Oklahoma", but it is in fact
Siloam Springs, Arkansas that is nearby (across a state line). -- Noted by
Nyttend 14:24, 14 June 2009 (UTC), updated after creating article by
doncram (
talk) 22:48, 11 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Hotel Aldridge (Wewoka, Oklahoma) is located in
Wewoka, Oklahoma, not "Wenoka". Also it is located at "Third and S. Wewoka Streets", not "Third and Wenoka Sts." The NRIS-provided coordinates show the location within Wewoka, Oklahoma; there is no Wenoka and there is no Wenoka St. --
doncram (
talk) 20:06, 9 June 2010 (UTC)reply
Oklahoma: address issues
Willie W. Wilson House in Fort Towson is listed at "Cincinatti and Main Sts.": correct spelling to "Cincinnati", and also note that it's Cincinnati Ave., not Cincinnati St.
Nyttend (
talk) 12:38, 14 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Waverley Historic District in Enid is listed as being "Roughly bounded by W Broadway Ave., N and S Tyler Sts.,S. Harrison St., W. Oklahoma St. and N and S Bachanan Sts." Correct "Bachanan" to
Buchanan.
Nyttend (
talk) 15:28, 14 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Ozark Trails Section of Route 66 is listed at "Jct. of N3540 rd and E0890 Rd W to jct. of E0890 Rd. and St. Louis and San Francisco RR tracks" — correct "N3540 rd" to "N3540 Rd", add periods after "rd" in both cases.
Nyttend (
talk) 01:10, 15 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Fairview School near Meeker is listed "2.25 NNW of jct. of US 62 and OK 18": add "miles" after "2.25".
Nyttend (
talk) 01:12, 15 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Idabel Armory in Idabel is listed at "Washngton and SE Avenue F Sts."
Nyttend (
talk) 02:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Gatewood East Historic District in Oklahoma County is listed at "NW 16th to N of NW 22nd, N. Classen Blvd. to N. Blackwelder Ave. and N. Flordia Ave." — correct "Flordia" to "Florida".
Nyttend (
talk) 03:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Merchants Transfer and Storage in Oklahoma County is listed at "l9 E. California" (capitalised, it's "L9", not "19"): correct to "19 E. California".
Nyttend (
talk) 04:03, 15 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Sheets House in Newkirk, Oklahoma (Kay County). The address is given as 1350 W. Peckingham Rd., but the maps say Peckham Road.
Jeffrey Beall(talk) 16:24, 19 February 2014 (UTC).reply
Shattuck National Bank Building (refnum 83004171) in Shattuck, Ellis County, is listed on the nom form at "100 S. Main". The correct address, 101 S. Main, appears on the
Shattuck Public Library website; ground-truthing confirms that it's on the odd-numbered side of Main.
Ammodramus (
talk) 14:49, 29 March 2016 (UTC)reply
National Astronomy and Ionosphere Center, Esperanza Ward, San Rafael Sector, Rd. 625, Arecibo vicinity, 07000525, LISTED, 9/23/08, is omitted from NRIS, although it was listed, in fact as the weekly featured listing, in September 2008. Weekly listing: PUERTO RICO, ARECIBO MUNICIPALITY (
http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/listings/20081003.HTM. Omission detected by Lvklock, within a joint reconciliation exercise with me. Thanks!
doncram (
talk) 07:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Faro de Punta Higuero, in
Rincon, Puerto Rico, listed October 22, 1981, also should be checked and if appropriate corrected from "Faro di Punta Higuero" to "Faro de Punta Higuero".
doncram (
talk) 04:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)reply
"Properties of Puerto Rico included in the National Register" shows "de" rather than "di" here, too.
doncram (
talk) 08:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Panteon Otero-Martinez is listed in NRIS as "Pauteon Otero-Martinez", while the correct word is Panteon. Typo: Pauteon; Correction: Panteon, in name of property. The more fully correct spelling, shown in "Properties of Puerto Rico included in the National Register", is "Panteón" (the Spanish word for mausoleum), but i understand the NRIS system would not accommodate the accent on the O. Issue noted by
User:Jmundo.
doncram (
talk) 08:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)reply
McCabe Memorial Chapel is listed in NRIS as "Mc Cabe Memorial Church". It is located per NRIS at 835 Eugenio Maria de Hostos Ave. in
San Juan, Puerto Rico, was listed April 11, 2008, has refnum=08000283. It appears that "Mc Cabe" is a typo for "McCabe"; it certainly makes it hard to look up in a database.
doncram (
talk) 00:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Puerto Rico: town issues
Casa Alonso, at 34 Betances St.,
Vega Baja, Puerto Rico is listed in NRIS as being in "Veja Baja". Listed December 13, 1996, refnum=96001491. Typo: Veja Baja; Correction: Vega Baja.
doncram (
talk) 17:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Gomez Residencia (Mayaguez, Puerto Rico), listed June 15, 1988, refnum=88000656, located at Mendez Vigo No. 60,
Mayaguez, Puerto Rico, is described in NRIS as having architecture that is "Mission/Spanish Revival, Neo-Andalsusi". That last word must be Andalusi instead. Typo:Neo-Andalsusi; Correction: Neo-Andalusi; in architecture field.
doncram (
talk) 07:55, 16 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Arenas Bridge. It is stated by the National Park Service in a travel itinerary webpage that the bridge is still in use, at the bottom,
here. However,
Matthiasb points out this
sat-image at Google indicates a newer bridge on the east for the modern traffic. Hmm, yes, that image is pretty convincing. Looks like cars are parked in the approach to the historic bridge, too. Thanks Matthiasb.
doncram (
talk) 18:06, 26 October 2009 (UTC)reply
Peace Dale Historic District is listed as roughly bounded by by Kensey Rd., Oakwoods Dr., Kingstown Rd., School, Church and Railroad Sts. According to googlemaps, there is no Kensey Rd. in Peace Dale, but there is a Kersey Rd. Typo: Kensey Correction: Kersey
Lvklock (
talk) 20:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Rhode Island: county location issues
William Whalley House, 33 Burchard Ave., Little Compton, is listed in the NRIS database as in Bristol County. Little Compton and this address are in Newport County. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 06:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Chester Historic District (Boundary Increase) is listed as being "Roughly bounded by Hemphill Ave., Brawley, Saluda, and FooteSts. and along Reedy St." — need to add a space in the middle of "FooteSts." to convert it to "Foote Sts."
Nyttend (
talk) 15:49, 7 February 2010 (UTC)reply
The alternate name for the Reedy River Falls Historic Park and Greenway (Boundary Increase) is given as "See A1so:Reedy River Falls Historic Park and Greenway" — "Also" is spelled with the numeral "1", rather than the letter "L".
Nyttend (
talk) 15:55, 7 February 2010 (UTC)reply
South Carolina: county location issues
Seaside Plantation House, listed in Charleston County, but according to coordinates given (verified with pictures & bird's eye views) it is in Colleton County. --
Spyder_Monkey (
Talk) 20:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Spanish Mount Point, listed in Charleston County as Address Restricted, but according to
this map and other sources, it is located in Edisto Beach State Park in Colleton County. --
Spyder_Monkey (
Talk) 20:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Landsford Plantation House in Chester County is listed in "Landsford Township", but the GNIS lists no such place; this is to be expected, as South Carolina has no townships.
Nyttend (
talk) 17:57, 7 February 2010 (UTC)reply
South Carolina has used the term "township." In 1731, they set up eleven townships to encourage to the settling of inland areas by European settlers. Eventually thirteen townships were established. Many were predominately German, Welsh, French, or Irish/Scots-Irish. For example, Orangeburg township was largely German and is the genesis of
Orangeburg, South Carolina (Edgar, Walter, ed., South Carolina Encyclopedia, p. 973, 2006).
Later, some/all (?) counties were laid out in townships. See
Acts of the General Assembly of South-Carolina, 1886, p. 702 for a reference to Landsford Township. The present day governmental significance of these is obscure at best. Landsford Township probably was in the northeast corner of the Chester County. There is a Landsford Precinct for voting -
Chester County voting precincts.
KudzuVine (
talk) 01:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Old Batesburg-Leesville High School is listed as being on Summerland Ave. in Lexington. It is actually on Columbia Ave. Batesburg-Leesville. The nomination states it is along Summerland Ave in Leesville, which is probably what Columbia Ave. was before the city merged with Batesburg in 1992 (after the nomination). kennethaw88 •
talk 21:59, 1 April 2017 (UTC)reply
South Carolina: address issues
Lee County Courthouse in Bishopville, South Carolina, is listed at the Focus site as being at "123 Main Street"; in this, it follows the nom form. However, there are both N. Main and S. Main addresses; the courthouse is at 123 S. Main (see, for example, the
Lee County Assessor's website).
Ammodramus (
talk) 02:32, 19 February 2013 (UTC)reply
Williams Chapel A.M.E. Church (refnum 85002345) in Orangeburg is listed as being at 1908 Glover Street. It's actually at 1198 Glover Street (see
church website). Orangeburg's numbering system may have changed since the time of the church's nomination.
Ammodramus (
talk) 11:32, 1 May 2015 (UTC)reply
I have moved it from the Calhoun table to the Abbeville table.
clariosophic (
talk) 21:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)reply
The original listing of the Charleston Historic District (refnum 66000964) is given as having an area of 0 acres.
Nyttend (
talk) 16:08, 7 February 2010 (UTC)reply
The surname in the
Margaret and Vernon Maxon House in Huron, Beadle County (refnum 98001409), is apparently misspelled and should be "Moxon". It's spelled "Maxon" throughout the
NRHP nominating form. However, a
sign on the lawn spells the name "Moxon". An
obituary published by Huron's Kuhler Funeral Home and an
obituary published in the Seattle Times give the decedent's name as "Margaret L. Moxon", and her late spouse's name as "Vernon Moxon" both formerly of Huron. An
entry at FindAGrave from the Restlawn Memorial Gardens of Huron includes a photo of a stone on which the names "Vernon W." and "Margaret L." are over the surname "Moxon". The
NRHP nominating form for the Edbert and Josie Opitz House, a Lustron house in Redfield, South Dakota, states that the original owners of the house were "Vernon and Margaret Moxon", who were "transferred to Huron in 1956"; the form spells the name "Moxon" a second time in that paragraph, but also spells it "Maxon". The nominating form for the Huron house states that "Mr. Maxon worked as a soil scientist"; one of the authors of
"Soil Survey of Beadle County, South Dakota" is listed as "Vernon W. Moxon".
Ammodramus (
talk) 23:46, 8 September 2017 (UTC)reply
The surname in the
Herman Friewald Barn (refnum 08000045) in Grant County is misspelled. It's spelled "Friewald" at the top of the nom form; but it's used multiple times elsewhere in the form, and each time it's spelled "Freiwald".
Ammodramus (
talk) 12:09, 16 September 2017 (UTC)reply
South Dakota: demolished but still listed
South Dakota Department of Transportation Bridge No. 63-210-282 (refnum 99001216) in Turner County is described in the nom form as a Pratt through truss bridge. When the site was visited in 2015, the river was spanned by a recent-looking beam bridge; see
2015 photos. Four steel cylinder piers, visible in photos, may remain from the earlier bridge.
Ammodramus (
talk) 02:15, 2 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Holy Fellowship Episcopal Church (refnum 75001712) in Charles Mix County is apparently no longer extant. The nom form describes its location as "SE of Greenwood", on Section 26, with UTM coordinates. The topo map at mapper.acme.com shows a church in the very southwest corner of Section 26, near the eastern edge of Greenwood, north of the road that runs parallel to the river and west of the north-south road past the Holy Fellowship cemetery. A ground search turned up no churches in that area; no churches along the north-south road; and no churches along the river road east and southeast of Greenwood. There are two churches in Greenwood, both south of the river road, and neither matching the photos in the nom form.
Ammodramus (
talk) 00:25, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Brookings Commercial Historic District in Brookings is listed "Roughly along Main Ave.between the C&NW Railraod and the alley N. Fifth St.": add space after "Ave.", correct to "Railroad", and improve final wording — is it the alley north of Fifth Street? An alley near North Fifth Street?
Nyttend (
talk) 02:41, 9 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Holy Trinity Church in Brule County is listed as being "0ff I-90" — change the zero to an "O", from "0ff" to "Off".
Nyttend (
talk) 03:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)reply
J. W. Reedy house (refnum 84000605) in Beresford, Union County, South Dakota, is listed as "304 N. 2nd". The correct address, 309 N. 2nd, appears in the nominating form. Ground-truthing indicates that the house at 304 N. 2nd does not in any way resemble the photos in the nom form, nor does it match the verbal description in the nom form, "southwest corner of Second and Cedar Streets".
Ammodramus (
talk) 16:11, 30 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Hultgren Farm (refnum 03001536) in Union County, South Dakota, is listed as "17953 309th St." No such address exists in Union County. The site's address appears in the nom form as "47953 309th St."
Ammodramus (
talk) 18:43, 1 October 2015 (UTC)reply
ZCBJ Hall (Tyndall, South Dakota) (refnum 85000181) is at 1910 Ivy Street. Address "1910" can be see to right of door in
this photo. Location on Ivy can be seen in
this photo. Tyndall has apparently changed its street names since the site's NRHP nomination; the nom form gives the address as "Nebraska and Washington Sts."
Ammodramus (
talk) 23:36, 1 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Koobs House (refnum 84003218) in Scotland, Bon Homme County, South Dakota, is listed as being at 431 4th Street; this address appears on the nom form. However, in the nom form for Scotland Residential Historic District (refnum 95001439), its address is given as 631 4th Street; and the street number "631" is visible over the front door in a
2016 photo.
Ammodramus (
talk) 00:08, 26 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Farmers State Bank of Platte (refnum 83003004) in Platte, Charles Mix County, is listed on the nom form as being at "404 N. Main St." It's actually at 404 S. Main. The correct address appears under the building's 2016 occupant, StarBanks Coffee & Wine, at
this Platte business directory. Ground-truthing confirms that in this stretch of Main, numbers increase from north to south.
Ammodramus (
talk) 02:52, 29 February 2016 (UTC)reply
H. P. Will house (refnum 02001763) in Wessington Springs, Jerauld County, is listed in the nom form as being at "214 Alene Ave North". As of 2017, the address was 207: the number is visible to the left of the front door in
this photo.
Ammodramus (
talk) 00:48, 9 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Methodist Episcopal Church of Wessington Springs (refnum 99001582), in Jerauld County, is described as being at "SE Corner of Main and State Street". It's actually at the corner of Main Street and State Avenue: see the street sign in the foreground of
this 2017 photo. Also, "corner" should be lowercased; this isn't German.
Ammodramus (
talk) 13:42, 9 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Robert S. Vessey House (refnum 78002560) in Wessington Springs, Jerauld County, is described in the nom form as being at "118 College Avenue". There are two problems with this. First, College Avenue has both north and south addressses; second, the number on the Vessey house is 109 (visible on right side of doorframe in
this 2017 photo). The address should probably be "109 N. College Avenue" or "109 College Avenue N."
Ammodramus (
talk) 02:49, 10 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Wessington Springs Opera House (refnum 76001738) in Jerauld County is described in the nom form as being at "111 Dakota Avenue N." When photographed in 2017, it was found on the even-numbered side of the street. There was no address on the building.
This 2017 photo shows the opera house reflected in the window of 109 Dakota Ave. N, across the street.
Ammodramus (
talk) 03:17, 10 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Brookings City Hall, 4th St.
Brookings, SD is credited in NRIS to "Huron, Issenhuth", while it was in fact designed by George Issenhuth of Huron.
Dairy Building, Off Third St. near the South Dakota State Fair Grounds
Huron, SD is credited to "Issenhute,George" which has typo in architect name. Should be "Issenhuth" not "Issenhute". --
Doncram (
talk) 06:56, 30 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Sioux Falls National Bank Building, refnum 79002406 in
Sioux Falls, South Dakota is listed in NRIS as having been designed by "Weary & Alvord", with typo for the second partner. It was designed by
Weary & Alford, an architectural firm that designed some other NRIS-listed buildings. The
NRHP document gave the incorrect spelling, and did not give any much coverage about the architects, so the author was probably just unaware of the correct spelling. --
Doncram (
talk) 20:31, 11 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Sessions-Pope-Sheild House in Yorktown, Virginia should be Sessions-Pope-Shield House --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 00:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)reply
batch03:62 Sheild should be spelled Shield
Actually, it seems it may be "Sheild" after all; sources are split but more for "Sheild" apparently. VA NRHP doc uses Shield in filename but "Sheild" in text. I found a HABS document which used Shield. There are architectural/engineering type drawings in its Commons which use "Sheild". --Doncram (
talk,
contribs) 04:35, 4 April 2023 (UTC)reply
I had started recategorizing, some now at Commons' Category:Sessions-Pope-Shield House may need to be changed back?
There are two sites listed in the NRIS as in "South Boston (independent city), Virginia": Reedy Creek Site and South Boston Historic District. As of 1995, South Boston's official designation changed from independent city to town. It is now part of Halifax County and has no independent government. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 02:29, 25 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Another typo: Rockinghan County Courthouse in Harrisonburg, Virginia should be Rockingham County Courthouse. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 04:25, 25 January 2009 (UTC)reply
batch03:66
Thomas Jonathan Jackson Sculpture, in Charlottesville, VA, is listed in NRIS as "Jackson, Thomas Jonathan, Scuplture" The typo is that "sculpture" is misspelled as "scuplture".
doncram (
talk) 05:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)reply
Tazewell Historic District: Tazewell is spelled Tazewill in NRIS --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 02:21, 11 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Loretto in Wytheville, Virginia: Wytheville is misspelled as Whytheville in NRIS. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 21:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Fairmount Historic District in Richmond: Fairmount is spelled Fairmont in NRIS (see
nom form for correct spelling). --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 21:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Virginia: county location issue
Snowville Historic District is listed in the NRIS database as in Grayson County, Virginia, but it is definitely in Pulaski County. See
Pulaski County list at the Virginia Department of Historic Resources website. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 05:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Henrico, an archeological site also known as Henricus site, is listed in NRIS as being in
Henrico County, Virginia. It seems to be in
Chesterfield County, Virginia instead, per an informed editor and confirmed by the Virginia state Dept of Historic Resources'
Register Master List, which does indeed show "Henrico (Henricus Site)" as being in Chesterfield County. (summarized from
discussion at wt:NRHP, thanks Til Eulenspiegel and Ymblanter, and thanks Andrew Jameson for pointing to the master list doc). --
doncram 22:25, 30 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Virginia: town location issues
Emmanuel Church at Brook Hill, listed February 3, 2000, located at 1214 Wilmer Ave., in
Henrico County, Virginia, is given town location in NRIS of "Henrico". That seems to be incorrectly referring to "Henrico Town", also known as
Henricus, Virginia. The NRHP document for the Emmanuel Church only states that it is in Henrico County and does not state a town/village location. It may be in fact in the city of Richmond. Henrico as town location seems incorrect however. Typo: Henrico. Correction: Richmond, or Henrico County. --
doncram (
talk) 15:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Virginia: street address issues
The address for Brooklyn Tobacco Factory in Brooklyn, Virginia in the NRIS is "VA 650 N side, 0.25 mi. E of jct. with VA 820". It should be "VA 659 N side, 0.25 mi. E of jct. with VA 820" (see
NRHP Registration Form on the Virginia Department of Historic Resources website). --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 02:36, 25 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Proper name for what is now at
Falls City Masonic Hall is under discussion at
Talk:Falls City Masonic Hall#article name. SarekOfVulcan identified the likely error, that NRIS "Falls City" in name should be "Fall City" with no S instead, and has provided supporting sources there. I've asked photographer editor Jmabel, who provided statement regarding name discrepancy in photo description, to comment there. --
doncram (
talk) 21:19, 14 October 2010 (UTC)reply
Per the discussion linked above, no error -- "Falls City" was the name of the lodge that met in "Fall City", thanks to a typo at Grand Lodge.--
SarekOfVulcan (
talk) 21:08, 22 April 2011 (UTC)reply
Boatman-Ainsworth House, Tacoma, WA, is miss-spelled in NRIS as "Boatman-Ainsworth Hose". NRHP doc at
here shows it is "House". --
Doncram (
talk) 08:47, 4 October 2018 (UTC)reply
The
United States Supreme Court Building is designated a National Historic Landmark with name "Supreme Court Building". At
NHL webpage for it], refnum 87001294 is reported. However, it does not appear in the NRIS database at all, based on searching in the Elkman system both by name and by reference number.
doncram (
talk) 17:00, 7 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Washington, D.C.: demolished but still listed
I went to take a picture of the Duncanson-Cranch House, located at 468-470 N St., NW, and found only a parking lot in that location. Jeffrey Beall 23:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Power Plant and Dam No. 4 in Berkeley County is listed as being in the vicinity of "Sheperdstown", but the proper spelling is "Shepherdstown".
Nyttend (
talk) 18:42, 29 January 2010 (UTC)reply
West Virginia: County location issues
McClung's Price Place, Lewisburg, WV is in Greenbrier County, not Kanawha County. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 16:11, 1 May 2012 (UTC)reply
West Virginia: architects and other issues
St. Albans Post Office, St. Albans, West Virginia: NRIS has an architect-builder-engineer identified as "Neil A. Melick" when the correct spelling is
Neal A. Melick, a Federal government employee who is credited, spelled correctly, in many other U.S. Post Office listings on the National Register. --
doncram 17:30, 29 July 2011 (UTC)reply
Joseph Schiltz Company Brewery Complex, 219 W. Galena St., Milwaukee, listed 12/30/1999: Typo Schiltz should be Schlitz. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 02:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)reply
Daniel and Caltherine Ketchum Cobblestone House, 147 E. Second St,
Marquette, Wisconsin - her name is likely spelled Catherine
[7]Royalbroil 05:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)reply
"Kena Road School" in Marinette County is the wrong name. Based on it's location, it's the
Lena Road School. I have a photo to upload. Royalbroil 06:28, 25 July 2011 (UTC)reply
Louis Marchetti House in Wausau, Marathon County has the address 111 Grant St. in the NRIS DB. That was correct, but the building has been moved to 921 Grand Ave. For support, see
"these minutes".
Jeff the quiet (
talk) 04:02, 9 April 2012 (UTC)reply
Holsten Family Farmstead, W1391 Weiner Rd., Columbia, WI, listed September 8, 1992, refnum=92001189: Listed in the NRIS as in Columbia, WI. Per the Wisconsin Historical Society web site, it's in Columbus.
[10] The name of the county is Columbia. The town of Columbia, Wisconsin is in Clark County, approximately 130 miles from Columbia County. --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 02:10, 2 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Hiram Smith House, 336 Main St.,
Neenah, Wisconsin has a new street address, luckily I drove around until I found it at 343 Smith Street in Neenah
[11]. It was clearly identified with the brown Register plaque - looks like the streets' routes were changed with a fairly new bridge in the background of some shots. I have to upload 130 pictures yet (of various types), so the images will be uploaded soon. Royalbroil 12:51, 26 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Pipe Site is listed as northeast of Fond du Lac. While its address is restricted, they mean it is located in/near the community called
Pipe, WisconsinRoyalbroil
Joint Brussels and Garner Dristrict School Number One is listed at 8571 State Trunk Highway 57 and there's a typo in the name "Dristrict" means "District". State highway 57 has been redesigned as a 4 lane highway and rerouted south of the property. The coordinates come up on google maps as 1876 Tornado Road which is where I found it when I photographed it yesterday. It's the only school within miles in a rural setting. The building has been issued a sign to mark it for finding during a fire which says 1876 Tornado Road. Royalbroil 02:20, 17 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Wisconsin: dates of significance
NRIS has wrong dates of significance for four schools designed by architect Henry Wildhagen. The four were listed together, supported by Stauffer, Eugene; Barbara Wyatt; Diane Filipowicz (December 22, 1979).
"Henry Wildhagen Schools of Ashland Thematic Resources". National Register of Historic Places Inventory - Nomination. National Park Service. Retrieved February 15, 2017.. The 2010 version of NRIS gave 1899 as a date of significance for some or all, while 1895 was given in a previous version of NRIS (can be seen in edit history of articles citing previous NRIS in infobox). Confusion derives from the thematic resources document noting that the four schools were built in 1895, 1899, 1900, and 1904, according to school records, without distinguishing which (page 5). However, Beaser School was 1899-built (stated on page 4). Ashland Middle School was the "finally produced" one (page 5), hence must be 1904-built. Ellis is "closest in age" to the middle school (page 4), so it must be the 1900 one. Wilmarth is noted to have been built in 1895 (page 3). So the schools and correct dates of construction are:
Tripoli Temple at 3000 W. Wisconsin Ave. Milwaukee, WI. It should be
Clas, Shepherd & Clas, not spelled as NRIS does as "Clas, Shepard & Clas".
Prabook source says Clas, Shepherd & Clas was established with his son and John S. Shepherd as junior partners, and after Shepherd withdrew then it became
Clas & Clas. --
Doncram (
talk) 05:24, 18 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Laney School - After being repurposed as a town hall, the town purposely burned it down in February 19, 2011
[13]. Royalbroil 01:07, 15 November 2012 (UTC)reply
I visited the location and it's gone. Just a hole in the ground and the sign that's in the article. The driveway goes to nothing. Here's 2 pictures:
1,
2. Too bad I can't find the photographs that I had taken before the fire. My hard drive was full in 2007 so I had to make room. Royalbroil 02:38, 18 February 2013 (UTC)reply
Fountain Inn (Beaver Dam, Wisconsin) is apparently gone according to
this local magazine. The owner fought neighbors and the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources after flooding on the
Beaver Dam River caused a redesign of downtown Beaver Dam
[14] but he eventually lost. I drove to the site on July 7, 2015 and I was able to photograph several other listings in the community. That lot was empty
(picture) and there was a lot of construction on the surrounding streets. Royalbroil 04:50, 9 July 2015 (UTC)reply
First German Reformed Church in Waukesha should probably be delisted. The pastor says it burned to the ground in 2005 and they constructed a new building, preserving only the old cornerstone.
Jeff the quiet (
talk) 13:54, 11 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Brin Building in Menasha had a major fire on August 10, 2018. It was deemed unsafe by the city and the owners sold it to the city for $1. They will raze the building and redevelop.
[15]Royalbroil 11:13, 19 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Big Horn Hotel in Arminto, Wyoming (NRHP-listed December 18, 1978, refnum 78002831) was destroyed by fire in 1985, per Casper Star-Tribune newspaper
story in 2010. --
doncram 06:02, 3 June 2017 (UTC)reply
In Maine,
Coburn, John G. is listed in Elkman and in NRIS's own interface. Presumably this is supposed to be John G. Coburn House or something like that?
doncram (
talk) 08:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)reply
There are many more like this, many for places including Sr. or Jr. as part of a person's name for whom the house is named after.
doncram (
talk) 20:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)reply
This is not an NRIS problem. NRIS lists various places with # sign in their names, e.g. "Schoolhouse #6" in Albany County, NY. However, this does not work in Wikipedia article names, one goes to the "Schoolhouse" article. So i have to change it to
Schoolhouse No. 6, i believe.
doncram (
talk) 01:09, 11 September 2008 (UTC)reply
NRIS? / Elkman lists "Van derzee, Cornelius and Agnietje House" on a Van Derzee street in Albany County, New York. I think there probably should be capitalization of Derzee. Am putting into Albany County list as
Cornelius and Agnietje Van Derzee House.
doncram (
talk) 17:50, 10 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Existing property, once listed, but no longer appearing in NRIS
To check what is listed in NRIS,
search NRIS here. However, the NRIS user interface does not provide access to all fields or all contents of NRIS, as evidenced by Elkman finding different content (such as delisting info) in 4/2008 download.
To check what is in Elkman NRHP generator (based on NRIS download as of 4/2008),
search Elkman NRHP generator here. However, it seems to be a feature of Elkman NRHP generator not to show delisted entries when search by name, but to show them when search by refnum (which you'd have to know from somewhere else).
I can't find it in NRIS, and searching on "Boston College" in Elkman NRHP generator does not find it, but searching the Elkman generator on refnum 90000109 finds it there.
doncram (
talk) 23:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)reply
I can't find it in NRIS directly, and searching on "Masonic" and "MA" in Elkman NRHP generator does not find it, but searching on refnum 86003798 finds it there.
doncram (
talk) 23:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)reply
Delaware and Hudson Depot, in
Ticonderoga, New York (different than the other depot at Port Henry in the same county,
Essex County, New York). It was not part of the Elkman-county-table-generator output (based on NRIS) and I can't find it by any search
within NRIS itself. Elkman's generator is not working right now so i can't check it there right now. I do see it is listed in
NRHP.COM's Essex county list, which was based on NRIS as of a certain date. Could it have been delisted? And its nomination document is available as
Ticonderoga depot document at New York State's NRHP site here. Is there an anomaly in the Elkman-county-table-generator? But why doesn't it show in NRIS, while it does show in NRHP.COM? Anomaly pointed out by
Mwannerdoncram (
talk) 00:44, 2 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Elkman's individual NRHP generator, working now, does not show it in searches on "Delaware" etc., but searching on refnum 88002206 finds it there.
doncram (
talk) 19:31, 2 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Claremont Resort in Oakland, CA. It doesn't come out in the Elkman county table generator for Alameda County, but it was listed in the old-style NRHP list (as Claremont Hotel). It doesn't come up when searching by name with the Elkman infobox generator but it does when searching by reference number (03000427). Searching the NRIS at nps.gov for Claremont in CA returns nothing, but I found it in the
new listings dated 5/30/2003. Is there a good way to find out if it's been removed for some reason? It seems to me unlikely that it was newly listed so recently and already removed. --
Sanfranman59 (
talk) 04:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Location issues
There are some location issues introduced by use of the Elkman county-table generator in our "table-izing" of lists such as
List of Registered Historic Places in Suffolk County, New York. For Suffolk County, the
Montauk Point Lighthouse shows in the Elkman-table as being in East Hampton, because NRIS shows East Hampton as the nearest city (as is shown also in the Elkman individual NRHP infobox for it). The Elkman-table appears to use best-available location info, which in some cases is the "nearest city". I don't think there is any way to improve upon that centrally; it requires local expertise like
DanTD in Suffolk provides to put in a more accurate location into the table, for a specific site. DanTD corrected the lighthouse's location to show as
Montauk, New York. Montauk's wikipedia article describes it as a hamlet and a Census-designated place now; perhaps it was even less than that when the lighthouse was listed on the NRHP. I think showing East Hampton in the table, although not precisely accurate, is a better start than providing no location info if NRIS gives only a "nearest city" location.
doncram (
talk) 00:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Note that any extant lighthouse has exact coordinates available either from the US Light Lists (if active) or from LighthouseFriends.
Mangoe (
talk) 13:39, 15 February 2013 (UTC)reply
Various ships have moved from one state to another, and the NRHP and the NHL webpages have not kept up necessarily. Some but not all ship moves are recognized in updates to the NHL list.
doncram (
talk) 05:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)reply
USS Hoga, listed in the NRIS as in Oakland, CA, is now part of the Arkansas Inland Maritime Museum in North Little Rock, AR.
[16] --
sanfranman59 (
talk) 23:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Zippin Pippin was moved during the 2010/11 winter from Memphis, Tennessee to
Bay Beach Amusement Park in Green Bay, Wisconsin. It is scheduled to be unveiled in May 2011. Royalbroil 01:31, 3 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Blood Run Site is identified in NRIS as located in/near: Sioux Falls, Iowa. I told that Sioux Falls IA does not exist, but that
Sioux Falls, South Dakota is close to Blood Run Site. NRIS also shows the site is in/near Shindlar, South Dakota, which is correct.
doncram (
talk) 02:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)reply
There may be a number of cases where bad coordinates in the NRIS database provided via Elkman's system (which generates starter county tables and the individual NRHP infoboxes) are given, usually due to bad NRIS info, but also perhaps sometimes due to potential glitches in Elkman's merger of NRIS coordinates with other NRIS info. If there are merger errors, maybe the NRIS coordinates file is lacking sufficient detail to support proper mergers, which would be a different kind of error.
I'm submitting 45 instances of coordinates issues in a batch to the NPS, am noting code numbers for each one submitted. Will report back about corrections made and/or feedback about what is useful for NPS to receive in a report.
doncram (
talk) 18:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Casselman's Bridge, National Road, in Maryland, is placed exactly on the equator in the Pacific Ocean, midway between mainland Ecuador and the Galapagos Islands. Sounds like an impressive bridge!
Nyttend (
talk) 16:31, 10 February 2009 (UTC)reply
Slob Historic District's location is mis-identified in NRHP document and in separate NPS webpage about it (in the "Travel" webpage series?). Its coordinates are not given in NRIS2013a, which says only that it is near Christiansted (which is correct). Its refnum = 87001929. Slob Historic District was a large
sugar plantation. The estate included a factory building, a water mill tower, a
great house built around 1750, and a slave village. Slaves were emancipated in 1848, and the estate declined and was largely used for grazing sheep and cattle. There were riots and the plantation was burned in 1878, per "travel" webpage.
Per "travel webpage (
"Slob Historic District".
National Park Service. ), the district includes the Great House and five slave cottages from the late 1700s and two from the early 1800s in the slave village. The slave village was the birthplace of
Cyril King, the island of St. Croix's first native-born governor. The district also includes the stables and an 1840s factory building.[1]
It is located north of Centerline Rd., about 6 miles (9.7 km) west of
Christiansted, on the east side of a cemetery.
Thanks, and yes, I was concluding that myself, after putting the coordinates into the Onondaga County list-article and seeing where they pointed to. Have removed from the Onondaga county list-article and confirmed it's covered in Orange County's list-article. And now I can't see why it had appeared the place was in Syracuse or in Onondaga County, and hence why it was included in the Onondaga County list article. Up until earlier today did the NRHP infobox generator show it in Syracuse somehow, but now the underlying data has been changed? I do notice the NRHP.COM system shows it in neither
Onondaga County nor
Orange County NRHP.COM listings, so I think there is some error within the NRIS data, yet to be corrected there.
doncram (
talk) 20:20, 14 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Owner objections, and delistings
Kewpee Restaurant, in
Allen County, Ohio, appears in the individual Elkman NRHP generator when search by refnum 82005081, but not when search by name, and it does not appear in the Allen county table generator output. Is this another case where the property was demolished and delisted? question raised by Stepshep at, i think,
Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Ohio.
doncram (
talk) 01:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Or perhaps it is listed, erroneously, by NRIS in a different county (so it could also show up in a different Elkman county list-table)? As may have been the case for Cosman Family Cemetery, discussed just above.
doncram (
talk) 01:52, 16 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Its listing status is "Determined eligible/Owner objection". In other words, it was nominated, but the owner objected to having it listed on the National Register. I should look into updating the infobox generator to query the listing status. --
Elkman(Elkspeak) 02:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)reply
That would be great, to get a status and extra fields of info as appropriate, for owner objection cases. Similarly: delisting cases. I also don't understand how Stepshep got the refnum and hence the infobox for Kewpee. Another owner objection one is
Charles Scribner's Sons Building in New York City, which is included in New York State's database but not the Elkman county-table generator (correctly), and correspondence shows it was an owner objection. I don't know its NRHP refnum, if it has one, to generate an individual NRHP infobox for it. The
template:infobox NRHP2 could be adjusted to accommodate these (to show an eligible date rather than a listed date, etc.). Also, delisted properties' infoboxes could be adjusted to show a delisting date as well as a listing date. Whether the infobox features are programmed into the individual NRHP infobox generator or not, it is crucial to get a report that at least shows this info, for manual adjustment of an infobox. I'll raise the template programming issues over in the Talk page for NRHP2, now.
doncram (
talk) 14:23, 16 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Owner objecton. I'll have to ask around why that was. Should be interesting for the article. Also, I caoun't find anything about objection iin my limited knowldge search of the NRIS. How did you get to that information? Thanks for the help and some really cool tools.
§hep •
¡Talk to me! 22:40, 18 October 2008 (UTC)reply
(copied from
wt:NRHP)
Is there somewhere that lists or can be searched to find sites that have been delisted (other than looking through each weekly list back to 1996)? I was looking through Waseca County, MN, and noted that on the county's web site
[18], they also list 3 sites not in the NRHP listings. When I look at the nationalregisterofhistoricpalces.com site, it does list the 3 sites, complete with listing numbers. Any ideas where I could find more info on these? Ref #s 82005055, 82005054, and 82000564.
25or6to4 (
talk) 07:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC)reply
There is a possibility that the properties never were listed to begin with. When a nomination comes into the NPS, it is given its reference number ("refnum") for internal tracking. The nomination can be denied (the paperwork was incomplete, the justification was not strong enough, the boundaries are wrong, etc.) Note even though it was denied, it still it has its "refnum". Somehow NRHP.com picks these up and lists them. One example is Weir Canyon Archaeological District in California - it was nominated, went to the NPS and given a "refnum" and subsequently denied (the boundaries were not justified, and the author did not do enough research into the local Native Americans) yet, it is on NRHP.com! The only way to find out for sure is to contact the NPS and find out (nr_reference(at)nps.gov).
Einbierbitte (
talk) 16:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)reply
There seem to be changes underway in Elkman's generator... searching on 82005055 gives report now noting listing status = DO, whatever that is, for Eaco Mill, in Minnesota. It should be noted that the first data problem here is that NRIS's own access system does not provide any way to get this info. Specifically, searching on Eaco in MN at NRIS, e.g. trying at
this NRIS search screen yields nada. Elkman's interfaces already provide more than is possible to get directly from NRIS.
doncram (
talk) 18:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Spelling mistakes and other inconsistencies in NRHP database
I've been asked by
User:Nyttend to report some minor inconsistencies in the NHRP database I found as part of trying to determine which sites do not, or should not, have public address information.
As far as I can see from parsing PROPMAIN.DBF (which is in the DETAILS.EXE self-extracting zipfile), there are 88412 records in the database, of which 5143 contain either of the words "address" or "restricted" in their address. Most of these use the exact string "Address Restricted". However, 90 entries use some other variation of this message.
The records with address fields which contain the substrings "address" or "restricted", but not using the exact string "Address Restricted", are as follows (leading/trailing spaces have been stripped from strings):
['REFNUM', 'RESNAME', 'ADDRESS', 'RESTRICT']
['82005042', 'Upper Shawsheen Railroad Bridge', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['80004424', 'Redbud Hollow', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['80004411', 'Campbellton', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['80004421', 'Jones Mill Run Historic District', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['80004440', "Union Bryarly's Mill", 'Address Unknown', ""]
['80004431', 'Edgewood', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['80003650', 'Kise Mill Bridge Historic District', 'Address Information Restricted.', 'X']
['84003385', 'Foley, Richard T., Site (36GR52)', 'Address Resricted', 'X']
['66000342', 'Haskell Institute', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['80001740', 'Natchitoches Historic District (Boundary Increase)', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['75002214', 'Galvez Town Site', 'Address not known', ""]
['75000759', 'Valley Farm Ruins', 'Restricted Address', 'X']
['80004701', 'Alexander Chapel Methodist Church', 'Address not given', ""]
['77001647', 'Paris Pike Historic District', 'No address given', ""]
['84003562', 'Woodland Mound Archeological District', 'Address Retricted', 'X']
['97000789', "Thompson's Island Site (Boundary Increase)", 'address restricted', 'X']
['97000837', 'Baltimore Mills Historic Archaeological Site', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['73000662', 'Nuuanu Petroglyph Complex', 'Restricted Address', 'X']
['82000151', 'Archeological Site (T-6 complex) 50-60-04-700', 'Address Restricted .', 'X']
['97000911', 'Hog Island--62.23', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['97000914', 'Holmes Point', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['97000916', 'Grand Lake Stream Site', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['97000912', 'Hog Island--62.29', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['97000915', 'Maine Archaeological Survey site 21.26', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['97000917', 'Hog Island--62.24', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['97000913', 'Birch Point', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['97000918', 'Hog Island--62.25', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['74000775', 'Albany Mounds Site', 'Addrss Restricted', 'X']
['78003573', 'Barlous Lake Archeological District', 'Addresss Restricted', 'X']
['68000057', 'Desolation Canyon', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['82004191', 'Skeen, William D., House', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['71000857', 'Stagecoach Inn', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['66000892', 'Ste. Genevieve Historic District', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['66000424', 'Utz Site', 'Restricted Address', 'X']
['70000329', 'Harley Park Archeological Site', 'Address Restriced', 'X']
['73001047', 'Hearnes Site', 'Address Retricted', 'X']
['85003268', 'Tinian Landing Beaches, Ushi Point Field, Tinian Island', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['97000931', 'House of Taga Boudary Increase and Additional Documentation', 'Address restricted', 'X']
['80002228', 'Prairie Place', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['80002229', 'Forestdale Plantation', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['80002227', "Overseer's House and Outbuildings of Lang Plantation", 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['73000360', 'Indian Mound Park', 'Restricted Address', 'X']
['76002300', 'Old Natchez Trace', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['83003813', 'Newkirk State (Site 3lCH366)', 'Addresss Restricted', 'X']
['80002907', 'Fort Dilts', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['66000598', 'Theodore Roosevelt National Memorial Park', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['85000790', 'Scrabbletown Historic and Archeological District', 'Address Restricgted', 'X']
['95001269', 'Old Friends Archeological Site', 'Restricted Address', 'X']
['73000392', "Fort Smith's Belle Grove Historic District", 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['72000201', 'Frog Level', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['70000122', 'Powhatan Courthouse', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['66000202', 'Fort Smith National Historic Site', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['77001594', 'Adkins, Homer, House', 'No address given', ""]
['89001971', 'Scott County Courthouse', 'Address Unavailable', ""]
['98000704', 'Sandy Hook Archeological Site', 'Gateway National Recreation Area, Address Restricted', 'X']
['73002268', 'MacIntosh-Driver House', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['85002731', 'Kodiak Naval Operating Base and Forts Greely and Abercrombie', 'Address unknown', ""]
['85002730', 'Ladd Field', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['78000535', 'Cape Nome Mining District Discovery Sites', 'Address unknown', ""]
['73001155', 'San Jose de la Laguna Mission and Convento', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['74001194', 'Fort Sumner Ruins', 'Addess Restricted', 'X']
['70000115', 'Old Tubac Schoolhouse', 'Address unknown at this time', ""]
['94000398', 'Lower Zuni River Archeological District', 'Restricted Address', 'X']
['70000184', 'Pensacola Historic District', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['69000164', 'Santee Indian Mound and Fort Watson', 'Addres Restricted', 'X']
['66000711', 'Fort Thompson Mounds', 'Adress Restricted', 'X']
['87002081', 'Viola Rockshelter (47 Ve 640)', 'Addres Restricted', 'X']
['78001719', 'Las Vegas Springs', 'Address Restricted .', 'X']
['80002583', 'Albany Glassworks Site', 'Address Restricted.', 'X']
['75002164', 'Chatahoochee County Courthouse', 'Address unnkown at this time', ""]
['97001648', 'Bullard--Everett Farm Historic District', 'Address Restrict', 'X']
['80002942', 'Round Barn', 'Address Information Restricted.', ""]
['80003212', 'Round Barn', 'Address Information Restricted.', ""]
['80003206', 'Round Barn', 'Address Information Restricted.', ""]
['71000649', 'Glenford Fort', 'Address Restrocted', 'X']
['72000247', 'Coachella Valley Fish Traps', 'Restricted Address', 'X']
['77001613', 'Golden Crown Mine', 'Address Unknown', ""]
['75000452', 'Blythe Intaglios', 'Addres Restricted', 'X']
['93001017', 'Cedar Avenue Complex', '44843 (44855), 44845 and 44851 Cedar Ave., 606 Lancaster Blvd., and Old Jail (no address)', ""]
['66000627', 'Cherokee National Capitol', 'Restricted Address', ""]
['98001579', 'Landerneau Mound', 'Address Ristricted', 'X']
['00000263', 'Fort St. Pierre Site', 'Address Resricted', ""]
['01000970', 'Livermore Hotel and General Store', 'Address Resricted', 'X']
['02000134', 'Lauriston', 'Addriess Restricted', 'X']
['02000685', 'Sunset Point', 'Address Retricted', 'X']
['03000919', 'Red River Gorge District', 'Address District', 'X']
['04001005', 'Government Boarding School at Lac du Flambeau', 'Address restrict', 'X']
['05000460', 'Amalik Bay Archeological District', 'Katmai National Park and Preserve--Address Restricted', 'X']
['06000051', 'Redoubt #2', 'Address Restrict', 'X']
['07000371', 'T Cross Ranch Rural Historic District', 'Address Resticted', 'X']
There may be yet other variants that misspell both words, but I didn't bother to look further: I'm simply going to take the "restrict" flag as authoritative. However, I find "address unknown" rather puzzling; are the NRHP actually saying they don't know where these places are? Or is this a mistake, and they should be flagged as restricted?
There are some other curious inconsistencies: a number of of the records listed above (for example, 80002942 and 00000263) are described as having restricted addresses in their address field, but are not flagged as restricted.
There are also a number of other records which are flagged as restricted which are not listed above, and use a string containing neither "address" nor "restricted" for their address fields. Some of these contain approximate addresses, so I won't list them here.
I hope this helps --
The Anome (
talk) 13:51, 20 February 2009 (UTC)reply
Yes, it helps very much. I've corresponded with the NPS and shared the above report. Thanks!
doncram (
talk) 01:42, 9 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Some of those in the list above I'm sure are not restricted, just incomplete. For example:
Powhatan Courthouse - Address unknown at this time
Scott County Courthouse - Address Unavailable
I'm willing to bet the addresses of courthouses could be found without too much trouble.
Jonathunder (
talk) 16:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Other
In correspondence, nr_reference notes that "the
Cedar Hill Cemetery [in CT] should have given the associated property as: Northam Memorial Chapel and Gallup Memorial Gateway.... We accidentally put the other name as the "see also" property instead of the historic name." Could watch to see if Northam shows up as See also from the Cedar Hill Cemetery in next version, rather than Cedar Hill Chapel something.
doncram (
talk) 02:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Columbiana County
The Burchfield Homestead is located on East Fourth (4th) Street. There is no street named "Forth" in Salem, Ohio, and the original submission to the NR listed the address correctly. OHPO and NR show the address as "Forth," but this is clearly a typo.