This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
current talk page.
MySears.com to
MySears and
MyKmart.com to
MyKmart - A new user created these articles and did a copy and paste move. I started to cleaned up one the "new" articles without realizing that the move had been done incorrectly. I attempted to repair the damage by doing my changes on the old page and changing the new page to a redirect, but it would not let me perform the move. --
WillMcC (
talk) 23:42, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Done and I rounded up stray archives from [[Talk:Glossary of phobias/...]] and [[Talk:-phobia/...]].
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 05:01, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Petar Zlatkov to
Petar Zlatkov (footballer). This is a bit of a mess b/c the original page has been turned into a dab page. The other article is
Petar Zlatkov (artist), which was also created by the mover, and which has a CSD tag applied on it by another editor. So the merge is necessary only if CSD was declined, otherwise the riginal page could be restored and the extra page deleted.
Tim Song (
talk) 17:32, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Huh? I couldn't see a histmerge. As far as I can see, the history was exactly how it was.
Tim Song (
talk) 18:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC) never mind. The artist article was deleted. I'll revert the dab now.
Tim Song (
talk) 00:21, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Done: Not sure how to request this one - a more experienced editor please help:
Westminster Presbyterian Church of Australia was originally at
Westminster Presbyterian Church - someone seems to have copied & pasted the contents of the latter to the former and then made the latter a disambiguation page which however retains the history of the contents now at the former. Can this be fixed please, and this request fixed to frame this request appropriately? --
Ishel99 (
talk) 07:55, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Ultimate (Prince album) was cut and pasted to
Ultimate Prince. The correct title of the album is Ultimate (refs
allmusic,
discogs), the words "Ultimate Prince" appear nowhere on the album, so the original article title was correct. The new
Ultimate Prince article has no major edits, so possibly that could just be speedily deleted without needing to do a history merge.
Markfury3000 (
talk) 01:59, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Done by plain move: see next entry.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 18:11, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Done also by the same user the following circular move fixed. Though unsure what to do about
cane (tool) which was made into a redirect at the same time, it may be earlier versions of
cane but is significantly different.
Keith D (
talk) 01:02, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
So a user cut and paste the contents from the 131st Fighter Wing to the
131st Bomb Wing. The bomb wing is the right name, but I have talked to the user months ago when he moved the page before and we agreed on a procedure. He seems to have realized that he couldn't move back again over a redirect and this caused him to cut and paste the article. I added this {{db-histmerge|131st Fighter Wing}} to the page, but since i'm new to this all, I figured that i'd do this to be safe.
Kevin Rutherford (
talk) 02:05, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Olifant was the disambiguation page; someone cut-and-paste moved that to
Olifant (disambiguation), so the page history of
Olifant is, except for the most recent edits, the history for the disambiguation page, which isn't where it belongs. The old page should have been moved to
Olifant (disambiguation), and a new page created at
Olifant.
PaulGS (
talk) 05:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Ruhrtriennale (the correct capitalisation) is a cut and paste move by
User:Ruhr chick from
RuhrTriennale (now a redirect). Both the old version and the new version were basically copyvio pastes from press releases. I have subsequently re-written the new version to remove copy vio and hype. The edit hisotry of the old version needs to be merged with the new version.
Voceditenore (
talk) 07:58, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
DoneIMK to
Institute of Management in Kerala (move called for, I found histmerge needed; undelete, histmerge, delete, to bring deleted copyvio edits together, then partial undelete).
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 15:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes, there has been much moving/splitting/shuffling. Someone added {{db-histmerge}} to the Q–S list after I had already added it to M–P. I know you can't do both, but I think it is better to do one than none. It doesn't really matter if it is merged to M–P, Q–S, or T–Z. —
jwillbur 23:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Henry S. Jacobs (HSJ) Camp →
Henry S. Jacobs Camp — Currently the second link (older link) is a redirect to a more general article; the first link was erroneously created instead of replacing the redirect of the original (second) article/link.--SidP (talk) 21:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
This was requested at WP:RM, but since there is history at latter, it is a history move. In 2007 the article was redirected to a broader article(
Union for Reform Judaism), in 2008 a new Camp article was created, which needs to be merged into the older article.
199.125.109.19 (
talk) 15:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Earliest revision of
Hot Sauce Committee was copied and pasted from
Tadlock's Glasses, with a couple of changes to reflect the new title. No new material added at Tadlock's Glasses in the three edits after the c&p, just a little back-and-forth over the redirect. –
CapitalLetterBeginning (
talk) 13:43, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Mare Liberum was moved by cut-and-paste from
The Free Sea, because Mare Liberum already existed as a redirect-page and the move procedure would therefore not allow a simple renaming. This apparently messed up the edit history of the pages. Please perform a histmerge, taking into consideration that maintaining The Free Sea as a redirect-page (which it now is) is still necessary.--
Ereunetes (
talk) 00:14, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
I created the article
Robert Jordan (lawyer) in 2004. Others edited it. In 2006 a user did a cut-and-paste, starting the article under the title
Robert W. Jordan by copying
this version of the original article into the new title, instead of moving the page. The user didn't delete the old article or make it a redirect, though. For a while we had two articles about the same person, and the two articles were being separately edited. More recently, the original article,
Robert Jordan (lawyer), has been converted into a redirect. The result is that some of the edit history of
Robert W. Jordan is found
here.
I don't know if a history merge is possible now, because both articles were edited after the cut-and-paste, so each has its own history, with edits that don't appear at the other title. One possibility would be to merge only the portion of the history of the original article that preceded the cut-and-paste (22:20, 8 July 2006). That would put the vast majority of the edits in the right place, at any rate.
As far as I can tell, all the information has been merged into the article at its current title, so the only issue is the edit history for GFDL compliance. I left a note on
Talk:Robert W. Jordan but that's not optimal.
JamesMLanetc 11:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Your link refers to two pages with "separate origins". Here, the origin of the second page was a cut-and-paste of the first, so it's not completely separate. That's why I thought of the fallback of merging the page history from the first article up until the moment of the cut-and-paste, keeping intact the history of the second article from that point forward. Is that much doable? Whether it is or not, thanks for looking into the problem.
JamesMLanetc 15:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Last week I "cut and pasted" 2 pages from one location to another (basically, adding a missing word to the page title). I found out today that there was a procedure to do this ("move"), but that I should come here and mark the other pages so that someone can complete the move of the other pages. So... the pages in question are:
Can someone please move the articles the rest of the way? The individual events are referred to as "Individual Medley" (or "I.M.") within the sport, and not just by "Medley". This is probably most done to help separate them from the Medley Relays; which are likewise referred to as "Medley Relay" and not just "Medley" or "Relay". Thanks.
Hooperswim (
talk) 16:15, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Right, but the point is that the Bing article's history (less than ten edits over three weeks old) is essentially trivial compared to the Live Search one (continuous since 2006). The merge should obviously have been done the other way around. If a history merge isn't to be performed, a copy-paste merge in the other direction should be performed in order to ensure that the useful edit history isn't hidden in a redirect while preserving the less useful one.
The diffs since that date are hardly monumental either.
Chris Cunningham (not at work) -
talk 17:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
User:Jake Wartenberg made a minor typo when moving a page to mainspace, and that resulted in a new page at
1971-72 NBA Season, coexisting with the correctly spelled
1971-72 NBA season. The lowercase page has a long history of about 100 edits and the capital one has 5 good edits and 1 that got pushed in by mistake due to the merge. However these 5 "good" edits are newer than the newest edit on the properly spelled page and I think a history merge would be the best possible solution. The one edit from
1971-72 NBA Season that is about hurricanes should be deleted. I know how to use Db-histmerge, but I wasn't sure how to use it in this case because it seems that this situation is the opposite way around from usual: the correctly spelled page is the old one. If this cannot be done then I think another copy-paste move in the opposite direction would be the best way forward. SoapTalk/Contributions 03:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Following cut paste to
Following (film) which already had some edits as an early duplicate article.
Following deleted using {{
db-move}} 2 months ago but nothing was completed.
Tassedethe (
talk) 17:24, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
United Airlines Flight 427 →
USAir Flight 427 —(Discuss)— The Airline of the flight in question was USAir, not United Airliesn. The USAir Flight 427 page was moved—by the sockpuppet
User:Y21—to United Airlines Flight 427. Somehow the contents was restored at USAir Flight 427. The pages have drifted apart since then (2 Mach 2009). I've fixed the drifting apart bit by mergeing changes to USAir Flight 427 into United Airlines Flight 427. There should be just one page at USAir Filght 427, with the history currently at United Airlines Flight 427; there should be no redirect from United Airlines Flight 427 to USAir Flight 427. This was first proposed as a merger,
Talk:USAir Flight 427#Merge proposal may also be relevant. --
ospalh (
talk) 15:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
I moved
Celtic Tenors to
The Celtic Tenors because I couldn't figure out how to move it; could someone please fix it? I was messaged where the "move" button is, and about this page. Thanks.
Spartan S58 (
talk) 16:03, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Edit: "The ..." is the correct title, but it currently does not have the page history. 16:04, 27 May 2009
User:Spartan S58
Hualien originally started as an article about Hualien City, but was cut and paste into
Hualien City and redirected there. But now someone redirected Hualien to
Hualien County. Thanks
impactF= 06:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Mir Jumla partially to
Mir Jumla II. Turning Mir Jumla into dab seems sensible, even though the other two are red links. –
Sadalmelik☎ 12:48, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help, Anthony! However, I think you might have slightly misunderstood the relationship between these three titles: The Invention of Lying is the new title of This Side of the Truth; Cemetery Junction is a completely separate film, and was never a title of The Invention of Lying (the original move a month ago that triggered this whole thing was in error), so there actually is still a small bit of merging to do with the talk pages:
The contents and history of the talk page currently located at
Talk:Cemetery Junction (film) actually belong to
Talk:The Invention of Lying. It doesn't appear that there are any edits there that actually belong to Cemetery Junction, so it should be safe to bring the whole thing.
Talk:This Side of the Truth did not contain any significant edits other than my botched move attempt and your added comment, and is effectively a duplication of a subset of the correct original talk page, so there's no need to bring any of its history in this move (I've already converted it to be a redirect).
This situation is a little hairy, and I initially attempted to do it myself, until I hit a roadblock with moving over redirects that already had edits that required the help of an admin. The situation is this: the article currently at Cemetery Junction (film) was originally located at This Side of the Truth. This Side of the Truth was incorrectly moved to Cemetery Junction (film) at 19:49, April 8, 2009 by Erik. However, instead of correctly being moved back to its original location, someone recreated This Side of the Truth, and began changing the original version at Cemetery Junction (film) to reflect that film's information. To complicate matters further, the original film's name was changed from This Side of the Truth to The Invention of Lying, but instead of moving the article, someone separately created The Invention of Lying, cut and paste the contents of This Side of the Truth into it, and began editing it!
All edits in Cemetery Junction (film) after the April 8 move should remain in that article's history, as they actually pertain to that film.
The history currently in the article This Side of the Truth from April 8 through April 19 should also be relocated into The Invention of Lying. The contents of This Side of the Truth should then be replaced with a redirect to The Invention of Lying.
All corresponding talk pages should have their histories merged at the same cutpoints described above.
Hope some admin will be able to help out here without their head exploding! –
Fierce Beaver (
talk) 22:25, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Done, but there was not much to do with the talk pages.
Cemetery Junction is now a 3-way disambig page.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 06:15, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
The page
Heroes (baseball) was a cut and paste copy of
Woori Heroes (more specifically
this revision. The edit history needs to be preserved, could an admin please fix this problem?
Borgarde (
talk) 14:19, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I guess that would be enough. I would have tried to do it myself, only I wasn't sure if it's important to preserve histories :) Thanks,
Shreevatsa (
talk) 04:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
WorldVistA {{db-histmerge|1=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistA}} (asked for by {{db-histmerge}} by
User:Tushti) :: the page to be histmerged in does not exist; page
VistA is not part of the same history.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 21:03, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about the unusual format, but using a complete web address as a Wikipedia page name gave the system indigestion.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 21:10, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Kingdom of Lombardy–Venetia (ndash) was cut-and-paste moved back to
Kingdom of Lombardy-Venetia (hyphen) against MOS by an editor who thought hyphens are ndashes and ndashes are mdashes. The correct title is the first one, with ndash. --
Hans Adler (
talk) 08:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Parallel edit histories and it is unclear where the cut-and-paste point is.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 06:10, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I wasn't sure if the edits post cut/paste would be enough to fail it as a candidate for histmerge. I think the cut/paste point is
here, with the
next edit being
undone, The next edit is the only change to the article that is in parallel and is a
minor cleanup (date delink, replace &28 with ( etc). The final 2 edits are the redirect to the other article. No problem if you still think it can't be done. I wanted to get an expert opinion over a difficult case rather than do it myself.
Tassedethe (
talk) 06:28, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
The histores of
Soreiyu and
Soleil (Watanabe Misato album) seems to be each continuous astride the stated cut-and-paste point. Around the described cut-and-paste point there seems to be no corresponding pair of edits (one in each page) with times within a minute or so. I suspect that these two are two pages which have been several times updated by copying between them. I have come across that before.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 09:24, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I see what you mean. The original edit was a 'paste', but the 'cut' didn't occur for another year meaning they coexisted. Looks like we leave well enough alone. Thanks.
Tassedethe (
talk) 12:27, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
(Discuss) — The Nov. 2 2008 and earlier edits of
TD Bank, N.A. should be merged with
Commerce Bancorp. These pages were split incorrectly, TD Bank N.A. is a merger of Commerce Bank and
TD Banknorth. The Commerce Bank history should remain intact with
TD Bank, N.A. being the new article.
Cmjc80 (
talk) 23:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Not done. Whatever be the boardroom goings-on of these various firms, the current Wikipedia file history is clear: page
TD Bank, N.A. gradually evolved, and in the process was moved twice: once by complete cut-&-paste (which was mended a while ago), and once the proper way; a daughter page
Commerce Bancorp was extracted from it by partial cut-&-pasting, leaving the greater part of the text in the original file. This is described in more detail in
Talk:Commerce Bancorp#RFC. Many edits are about more than one of the firms involved in this, making a tidy history-split between topics impossible.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 15:14, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
current talk page.
MySears.com to
MySears and
MyKmart.com to
MyKmart - A new user created these articles and did a copy and paste move. I started to cleaned up one the "new" articles without realizing that the move had been done incorrectly. I attempted to repair the damage by doing my changes on the old page and changing the new page to a redirect, but it would not let me perform the move. --
WillMcC (
talk) 23:42, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Done and I rounded up stray archives from [[Talk:Glossary of phobias/...]] and [[Talk:-phobia/...]].
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 05:01, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Petar Zlatkov to
Petar Zlatkov (footballer). This is a bit of a mess b/c the original page has been turned into a dab page. The other article is
Petar Zlatkov (artist), which was also created by the mover, and which has a CSD tag applied on it by another editor. So the merge is necessary only if CSD was declined, otherwise the riginal page could be restored and the extra page deleted.
Tim Song (
talk) 17:32, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Huh? I couldn't see a histmerge. As far as I can see, the history was exactly how it was.
Tim Song (
talk) 18:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC) never mind. The artist article was deleted. I'll revert the dab now.
Tim Song (
talk) 00:21, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Done: Not sure how to request this one - a more experienced editor please help:
Westminster Presbyterian Church of Australia was originally at
Westminster Presbyterian Church - someone seems to have copied & pasted the contents of the latter to the former and then made the latter a disambiguation page which however retains the history of the contents now at the former. Can this be fixed please, and this request fixed to frame this request appropriately? --
Ishel99 (
talk) 07:55, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Ultimate (Prince album) was cut and pasted to
Ultimate Prince. The correct title of the album is Ultimate (refs
allmusic,
discogs), the words "Ultimate Prince" appear nowhere on the album, so the original article title was correct. The new
Ultimate Prince article has no major edits, so possibly that could just be speedily deleted without needing to do a history merge.
Markfury3000 (
talk) 01:59, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Done by plain move: see next entry.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 18:11, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Done also by the same user the following circular move fixed. Though unsure what to do about
cane (tool) which was made into a redirect at the same time, it may be earlier versions of
cane but is significantly different.
Keith D (
talk) 01:02, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
So a user cut and paste the contents from the 131st Fighter Wing to the
131st Bomb Wing. The bomb wing is the right name, but I have talked to the user months ago when he moved the page before and we agreed on a procedure. He seems to have realized that he couldn't move back again over a redirect and this caused him to cut and paste the article. I added this {{db-histmerge|131st Fighter Wing}} to the page, but since i'm new to this all, I figured that i'd do this to be safe.
Kevin Rutherford (
talk) 02:05, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Olifant was the disambiguation page; someone cut-and-paste moved that to
Olifant (disambiguation), so the page history of
Olifant is, except for the most recent edits, the history for the disambiguation page, which isn't where it belongs. The old page should have been moved to
Olifant (disambiguation), and a new page created at
Olifant.
PaulGS (
talk) 05:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Ruhrtriennale (the correct capitalisation) is a cut and paste move by
User:Ruhr chick from
RuhrTriennale (now a redirect). Both the old version and the new version were basically copyvio pastes from press releases. I have subsequently re-written the new version to remove copy vio and hype. The edit hisotry of the old version needs to be merged with the new version.
Voceditenore (
talk) 07:58, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
DoneIMK to
Institute of Management in Kerala (move called for, I found histmerge needed; undelete, histmerge, delete, to bring deleted copyvio edits together, then partial undelete).
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 15:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes, there has been much moving/splitting/shuffling. Someone added {{db-histmerge}} to the Q–S list after I had already added it to M–P. I know you can't do both, but I think it is better to do one than none. It doesn't really matter if it is merged to M–P, Q–S, or T–Z. —
jwillbur 23:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Henry S. Jacobs (HSJ) Camp →
Henry S. Jacobs Camp — Currently the second link (older link) is a redirect to a more general article; the first link was erroneously created instead of replacing the redirect of the original (second) article/link.--SidP (talk) 21:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
This was requested at WP:RM, but since there is history at latter, it is a history move. In 2007 the article was redirected to a broader article(
Union for Reform Judaism), in 2008 a new Camp article was created, which needs to be merged into the older article.
199.125.109.19 (
talk) 15:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Earliest revision of
Hot Sauce Committee was copied and pasted from
Tadlock's Glasses, with a couple of changes to reflect the new title. No new material added at Tadlock's Glasses in the three edits after the c&p, just a little back-and-forth over the redirect. –
CapitalLetterBeginning (
talk) 13:43, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Mare Liberum was moved by cut-and-paste from
The Free Sea, because Mare Liberum already existed as a redirect-page and the move procedure would therefore not allow a simple renaming. This apparently messed up the edit history of the pages. Please perform a histmerge, taking into consideration that maintaining The Free Sea as a redirect-page (which it now is) is still necessary.--
Ereunetes (
talk) 00:14, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
I created the article
Robert Jordan (lawyer) in 2004. Others edited it. In 2006 a user did a cut-and-paste, starting the article under the title
Robert W. Jordan by copying
this version of the original article into the new title, instead of moving the page. The user didn't delete the old article or make it a redirect, though. For a while we had two articles about the same person, and the two articles were being separately edited. More recently, the original article,
Robert Jordan (lawyer), has been converted into a redirect. The result is that some of the edit history of
Robert W. Jordan is found
here.
I don't know if a history merge is possible now, because both articles were edited after the cut-and-paste, so each has its own history, with edits that don't appear at the other title. One possibility would be to merge only the portion of the history of the original article that preceded the cut-and-paste (22:20, 8 July 2006). That would put the vast majority of the edits in the right place, at any rate.
As far as I can tell, all the information has been merged into the article at its current title, so the only issue is the edit history for GFDL compliance. I left a note on
Talk:Robert W. Jordan but that's not optimal.
JamesMLanetc 11:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Your link refers to two pages with "separate origins". Here, the origin of the second page was a cut-and-paste of the first, so it's not completely separate. That's why I thought of the fallback of merging the page history from the first article up until the moment of the cut-and-paste, keeping intact the history of the second article from that point forward. Is that much doable? Whether it is or not, thanks for looking into the problem.
JamesMLanetc 15:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Last week I "cut and pasted" 2 pages from one location to another (basically, adding a missing word to the page title). I found out today that there was a procedure to do this ("move"), but that I should come here and mark the other pages so that someone can complete the move of the other pages. So... the pages in question are:
Can someone please move the articles the rest of the way? The individual events are referred to as "Individual Medley" (or "I.M.") within the sport, and not just by "Medley". This is probably most done to help separate them from the Medley Relays; which are likewise referred to as "Medley Relay" and not just "Medley" or "Relay". Thanks.
Hooperswim (
talk) 16:15, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Right, but the point is that the Bing article's history (less than ten edits over three weeks old) is essentially trivial compared to the Live Search one (continuous since 2006). The merge should obviously have been done the other way around. If a history merge isn't to be performed, a copy-paste merge in the other direction should be performed in order to ensure that the useful edit history isn't hidden in a redirect while preserving the less useful one.
The diffs since that date are hardly monumental either.
Chris Cunningham (not at work) -
talk 17:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
User:Jake Wartenberg made a minor typo when moving a page to mainspace, and that resulted in a new page at
1971-72 NBA Season, coexisting with the correctly spelled
1971-72 NBA season. The lowercase page has a long history of about 100 edits and the capital one has 5 good edits and 1 that got pushed in by mistake due to the merge. However these 5 "good" edits are newer than the newest edit on the properly spelled page and I think a history merge would be the best possible solution. The one edit from
1971-72 NBA Season that is about hurricanes should be deleted. I know how to use Db-histmerge, but I wasn't sure how to use it in this case because it seems that this situation is the opposite way around from usual: the correctly spelled page is the old one. If this cannot be done then I think another copy-paste move in the opposite direction would be the best way forward. SoapTalk/Contributions 03:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Following cut paste to
Following (film) which already had some edits as an early duplicate article.
Following deleted using {{
db-move}} 2 months ago but nothing was completed.
Tassedethe (
talk) 17:24, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
United Airlines Flight 427 →
USAir Flight 427 —(Discuss)— The Airline of the flight in question was USAir, not United Airliesn. The USAir Flight 427 page was moved—by the sockpuppet
User:Y21—to United Airlines Flight 427. Somehow the contents was restored at USAir Flight 427. The pages have drifted apart since then (2 Mach 2009). I've fixed the drifting apart bit by mergeing changes to USAir Flight 427 into United Airlines Flight 427. There should be just one page at USAir Filght 427, with the history currently at United Airlines Flight 427; there should be no redirect from United Airlines Flight 427 to USAir Flight 427. This was first proposed as a merger,
Talk:USAir Flight 427#Merge proposal may also be relevant. --
ospalh (
talk) 15:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
I moved
Celtic Tenors to
The Celtic Tenors because I couldn't figure out how to move it; could someone please fix it? I was messaged where the "move" button is, and about this page. Thanks.
Spartan S58 (
talk) 16:03, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Edit: "The ..." is the correct title, but it currently does not have the page history. 16:04, 27 May 2009
User:Spartan S58
Hualien originally started as an article about Hualien City, but was cut and paste into
Hualien City and redirected there. But now someone redirected Hualien to
Hualien County. Thanks
impactF= 06:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Mir Jumla partially to
Mir Jumla II. Turning Mir Jumla into dab seems sensible, even though the other two are red links. –
Sadalmelik☎ 12:48, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help, Anthony! However, I think you might have slightly misunderstood the relationship between these three titles: The Invention of Lying is the new title of This Side of the Truth; Cemetery Junction is a completely separate film, and was never a title of The Invention of Lying (the original move a month ago that triggered this whole thing was in error), so there actually is still a small bit of merging to do with the talk pages:
The contents and history of the talk page currently located at
Talk:Cemetery Junction (film) actually belong to
Talk:The Invention of Lying. It doesn't appear that there are any edits there that actually belong to Cemetery Junction, so it should be safe to bring the whole thing.
Talk:This Side of the Truth did not contain any significant edits other than my botched move attempt and your added comment, and is effectively a duplication of a subset of the correct original talk page, so there's no need to bring any of its history in this move (I've already converted it to be a redirect).
This situation is a little hairy, and I initially attempted to do it myself, until I hit a roadblock with moving over redirects that already had edits that required the help of an admin. The situation is this: the article currently at Cemetery Junction (film) was originally located at This Side of the Truth. This Side of the Truth was incorrectly moved to Cemetery Junction (film) at 19:49, April 8, 2009 by Erik. However, instead of correctly being moved back to its original location, someone recreated This Side of the Truth, and began changing the original version at Cemetery Junction (film) to reflect that film's information. To complicate matters further, the original film's name was changed from This Side of the Truth to The Invention of Lying, but instead of moving the article, someone separately created The Invention of Lying, cut and paste the contents of This Side of the Truth into it, and began editing it!
All edits in Cemetery Junction (film) after the April 8 move should remain in that article's history, as they actually pertain to that film.
The history currently in the article This Side of the Truth from April 8 through April 19 should also be relocated into The Invention of Lying. The contents of This Side of the Truth should then be replaced with a redirect to The Invention of Lying.
All corresponding talk pages should have their histories merged at the same cutpoints described above.
Hope some admin will be able to help out here without their head exploding! –
Fierce Beaver (
talk) 22:25, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Done, but there was not much to do with the talk pages.
Cemetery Junction is now a 3-way disambig page.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 06:15, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
The page
Heroes (baseball) was a cut and paste copy of
Woori Heroes (more specifically
this revision. The edit history needs to be preserved, could an admin please fix this problem?
Borgarde (
talk) 14:19, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I guess that would be enough. I would have tried to do it myself, only I wasn't sure if it's important to preserve histories :) Thanks,
Shreevatsa (
talk) 04:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
WorldVistA {{db-histmerge|1=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistA}} (asked for by {{db-histmerge}} by
User:Tushti) :: the page to be histmerged in does not exist; page
VistA is not part of the same history.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 21:03, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about the unusual format, but using a complete web address as a Wikipedia page name gave the system indigestion.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 21:10, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Kingdom of Lombardy–Venetia (ndash) was cut-and-paste moved back to
Kingdom of Lombardy-Venetia (hyphen) against MOS by an editor who thought hyphens are ndashes and ndashes are mdashes. The correct title is the first one, with ndash. --
Hans Adler (
talk) 08:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Parallel edit histories and it is unclear where the cut-and-paste point is.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 06:10, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I wasn't sure if the edits post cut/paste would be enough to fail it as a candidate for histmerge. I think the cut/paste point is
here, with the
next edit being
undone, The next edit is the only change to the article that is in parallel and is a
minor cleanup (date delink, replace &28 with ( etc). The final 2 edits are the redirect to the other article. No problem if you still think it can't be done. I wanted to get an expert opinion over a difficult case rather than do it myself.
Tassedethe (
talk) 06:28, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
The histores of
Soreiyu and
Soleil (Watanabe Misato album) seems to be each continuous astride the stated cut-and-paste point. Around the described cut-and-paste point there seems to be no corresponding pair of edits (one in each page) with times within a minute or so. I suspect that these two are two pages which have been several times updated by copying between them. I have come across that before.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 09:24, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I see what you mean. The original edit was a 'paste', but the 'cut' didn't occur for another year meaning they coexisted. Looks like we leave well enough alone. Thanks.
Tassedethe (
talk) 12:27, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
(Discuss) — The Nov. 2 2008 and earlier edits of
TD Bank, N.A. should be merged with
Commerce Bancorp. These pages were split incorrectly, TD Bank N.A. is a merger of Commerce Bank and
TD Banknorth. The Commerce Bank history should remain intact with
TD Bank, N.A. being the new article.
Cmjc80 (
talk) 23:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Not done. Whatever be the boardroom goings-on of these various firms, the current Wikipedia file history is clear: page
TD Bank, N.A. gradually evolved, and in the process was moved twice: once by complete cut-&-paste (which was mended a while ago), and once the proper way; a daughter page
Commerce Bancorp was extracted from it by partial cut-&-pasting, leaving the greater part of the text in the original file. This is described in more detail in
Talk:Commerce Bancorp#RFC. Many edits are about more than one of the firms involved in this, making a tidy history-split between topics impossible.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 15:14, 12 May 2009 (UTC)