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1 July 2023

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Sportskeeda ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

The closer seems to have gone into an overdetailed response to lots of moot points but missed the most important one. The closing admin didn't consider that the new refs added during the AFD hadn't been discussed at length - this would/could have negated many of the delete votes. A third relist with a note asking for input on the new refs would have been appropriate. That aside there was a numerical advantage to keep, to overcome this there'd need to be a very strong case for delete which i can't see. Desertarun ( talk) 09:02, 1 July 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Endorse looks like a very reasonable close. If new sources were added to the article, at no time were those identified during the discussion (a request for the WP:THREE best sources was even ignored on the grounds that "it's an essay") and most of the late !voters went for delete as well, so they would have had the ability to review any new sourcing. Excellent close against the numbers. SportingFlyer T· C 09:53, 1 July 2023 (UTC) reply
The AFD started with 8 refs and finished with 20. The original nominator only looked at 6 of those refs. Without it explicitly being stated the new refs need examining it gives the impression that the article hadn't been recently improved. Desertarun ( talk) 10:06, 1 July 2023 (UTC) reply
Sorry, but those additional sources were discussed in the later stages of the discussion, without any sources demonstrably passing AfD. The mere fact sources were added doesn't invalidate the close - they have to demonstrate notability. SportingFlyer T· C 11:00, 1 July 2023 (UTC) reply
The new sources were discussed by me and one other. In an AFD with 20 separate contributors, that's too few. Desertarun ( talk) 14:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1 July 2023

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Sportskeeda ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

The closer seems to have gone into an overdetailed response to lots of moot points but missed the most important one. The closing admin didn't consider that the new refs added during the AFD hadn't been discussed at length - this would/could have negated many of the delete votes. A third relist with a note asking for input on the new refs would have been appropriate. That aside there was a numerical advantage to keep, to overcome this there'd need to be a very strong case for delete which i can't see. Desertarun ( talk) 09:02, 1 July 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Endorse looks like a very reasonable close. If new sources were added to the article, at no time were those identified during the discussion (a request for the WP:THREE best sources was even ignored on the grounds that "it's an essay") and most of the late !voters went for delete as well, so they would have had the ability to review any new sourcing. Excellent close against the numbers. SportingFlyer T· C 09:53, 1 July 2023 (UTC) reply
The AFD started with 8 refs and finished with 20. The original nominator only looked at 6 of those refs. Without it explicitly being stated the new refs need examining it gives the impression that the article hadn't been recently improved. Desertarun ( talk) 10:06, 1 July 2023 (UTC) reply
Sorry, but those additional sources were discussed in the later stages of the discussion, without any sources demonstrably passing AfD. The mere fact sources were added doesn't invalidate the close - they have to demonstrate notability. SportingFlyer T· C 11:00, 1 July 2023 (UTC) reply
The new sources were discussed by me and one other. In an AFD with 20 separate contributors, that's too few. Desertarun ( talk) 14:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

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