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Nominator's rationale: Teams who stay in the same location but change their name don't have their own categories - minus the personnel - and it should be the same for this. The only other similar tree I found was the Angels' three name changes and I've nominated them for merging as well. Merge these and also redirect.
Omnis Scientia (
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Support per nom and prior discussions.--
User:Namiba 11:04, 22 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge all per nom. -
Eureka Lott 18:43, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: merge and leave a redirect per
WP:OVERLAP; while they went through a few nickname variations, the team did not change locations so there is no need to have three seperate trees for what is essentially the same team. Note: I've purposefully left out the field personnel because they always have a category.
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Support per nom and prior discussions.--
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Merge all per nom. -
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Oppose It seems pointless and counter-productive. It's also based on an assumption that there are no other such stories, rather than the temporary situation of en:WP not yet having written anything about them. We ought to move forwards, not back. This sort of action is counter-productive and very discouraging to those who might otherwise be writing those articles.
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Upmerge for now. If more pages are created or can be found, then the category would be helpful. But encouraging page creation isn't the purpose of categories. And, I not sure that a lone category would encourage or discourage a page creator. (fyi: Potential for growth is no longer a criteria for keeping a category (see
WP:SMALLCAT)
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Nominator's rationale: The intended purpose of the category seems to be "places relevant to the history of the Assyrians", assuming
Assyrian continuity. However, the name of the category seems to incorrectly suggest that Assyrian geography is separate from non-Assyrian geography. A similar category does not exist regarding any other ethnic group that I can find (for example, Kurdish geography and Armenian geography don't exist but instead have Geography of Kurdistan and Geography of Armenia). Therefore, I think this category should be purged of modern content and re-focused to be about the geography of the Assyrian empire. I don't believe recategorization will be necessary because all the items for which Assyrian is defining will already be in relevant categories (such as all the diocese articles). (
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I would also support this outcome. (
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Support per nom
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Merge to Geography of Germany and History of West Germany.
121.202.28.169 (
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The subcategory is already part of the tree of these two merge targets.
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Support per nom
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Hello Kailash29792, This was closed two days ago as non-consensus (with 2 relists...). Maybe ask the user who did the close to relist one last time if they want (so that you don't need to ping other participants and re-format all these discussions (1990, 2000, 2010s...) so that they can be discussed together, as was the case for the first Cfd). Thanks. (If that is not what happens, I am obviously still against the merge, and also disapprove of the speedy renom, especially with the 4 cats discussed individually again.....). -
My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:08, 20 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose for now. I think waiting at least a month is a good idea, given how recent the discussion was.
Mason (
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Ok, I agree the timing was bad, but given the success of the Indian version (all cats such as 2000s Indian superhero films being deleted recently) I thought this was in a similar position. On 20 April 2024
IST, I will open a mass CfD to upmerge all these categories. Kailash29792(talk) 14:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Kailash29792: would you like to withdraw this nomination for now? (please
ping on reply) HouseBlaster (
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Yes. And how do I do that? Simply say Withdraw in bold? Cos I'm doing that now. Kailash29792(talk) 02:22, 28 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. it's unhelpful to have a single church building. If not deleted/merged, the category needs to be renamed
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Added to nom.
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Ok, then merge both as nominated.
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. unhelpful for navigation to only have one village in this category.
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Merge, all villages categories should be merged to populated places regardless of their size, for consistency with many earlier closures in the past year.
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Non-defining intersection between political regime/era and type of violence. Morever, There's only one page in here, which isn't helpful for navigation
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Category:21st-century mayors by country
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The result of the discussion was:merge as nominated. On the numbers, there are three people who support a merge to two who oppose. However, consensus is
not a vote. Looking at the strength of the arguments presented, it is clear that those in support of a merge have refuted the argument presented by the opposition. No "by country" categories are being merged; the "by country" categories are being moved. Therefore, there is consensus to merge.
(non-admin closure)HouseBlaster (
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Keep There are already 31 different categories by U.S. state in
Category:20th-century mayors of populated places in the United States. By merging the categories, as requested in the nomination, all categories for all mayors anywhere in the globe would be lumped together in one worldwide category by century. Mayors in the United States would be jumbled together with mayors from Ukraine, Uzbekistan and Uganda, once those categories are created. This is a layer that is anything but redundant and would be extremely helpful for navigation. What am I missing here that the encyclopedia and its readers are better off having all categories for all mayors on Earth thrown together into a single parent category for every hundred-year period?
Alansohn (
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This is an apparent misunderstanding of the nomination. The US categories aren't nominated for merger and there is no lumping together. The only thing the nomination achieves is removing an empty "by country" layer.
Marcocapelle (
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I agree that this seems like a misunderstanding. But I think the other important thing is that there are no other country categories in here right now. The nomination reflects that right now there are no other categories to jumble up. ". Mayors in the United States would be jumbled together with mayors from Ukraine, Uzbekistan and Uganda, once those categories are created. " The nomination explicitly states "for now" because there are no other categories to jumble up.
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Nominator's rationale: Teams who stay in the same location but change their name don't have their own categories - minus the personnel - and it should be the same for this. The only other similar tree I found was the Angels' three name changes and I've nominated them for merging as well. Merge these and also redirect.
Omnis Scientia (
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Support per nom and prior discussions.--
User:Namiba 11:04, 22 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge all per nom. -
Eureka Lott 18:43, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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Category:Tampa Bay Devil Rays owners
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Nominator's rationale: merge and leave a redirect per
WP:OVERLAP; while they went through a few nickname variations, the team did not change locations so there is no need to have three seperate trees for what is essentially the same team. Note: I've purposefully left out the field personnel because they always have a category.
Omnis Scientia (
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Support per nom and prior discussions.--
User:Namiba 11:04, 22 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge all per nom. -
Eureka Lott 18:44, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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Oppose It seems pointless and counter-productive. It's also based on an assumption that there are no other such stories, rather than the temporary situation of en:WP not yet having written anything about them. We ought to move forwards, not back. This sort of action is counter-productive and very discouraging to those who might otherwise be writing those articles.
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Upmerge for now. If more pages are created or can be found, then the category would be helpful. But encouraging page creation isn't the purpose of categories. And, I not sure that a lone category would encourage or discourage a page creator. (fyi: Potential for growth is no longer a criteria for keeping a category (see
WP:SMALLCAT)
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Nominator's rationale: The intended purpose of the category seems to be "places relevant to the history of the Assyrians", assuming
Assyrian continuity. However, the name of the category seems to incorrectly suggest that Assyrian geography is separate from non-Assyrian geography. A similar category does not exist regarding any other ethnic group that I can find (for example, Kurdish geography and Armenian geography don't exist but instead have Geography of Kurdistan and Geography of Armenia). Therefore, I think this category should be purged of modern content and re-focused to be about the geography of the Assyrian empire. I don't believe recategorization will be necessary because all the items for which Assyrian is defining will already be in relevant categories (such as all the diocese articles). (
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I would also support this outcome. (
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Support per nom
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Merge to Geography of Germany and History of West Germany.
121.202.28.169 (
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The subcategory is already part of the tree of these two merge targets.
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Support per nom
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Hello Kailash29792, This was closed two days ago as non-consensus (with 2 relists...). Maybe ask the user who did the close to relist one last time if they want (so that you don't need to ping other participants and re-format all these discussions (1990, 2000, 2010s...) so that they can be discussed together, as was the case for the first Cfd). Thanks. (If that is not what happens, I am obviously still against the merge, and also disapprove of the speedy renom, especially with the 4 cats discussed individually again.....). -
My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:08, 20 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose for now. I think waiting at least a month is a good idea, given how recent the discussion was.
Mason (
talk) 13:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Ok, I agree the timing was bad, but given the success of the Indian version (all cats such as 2000s Indian superhero films being deleted recently) I thought this was in a similar position. On 20 April 2024
IST, I will open a mass CfD to upmerge all these categories. Kailash29792(talk) 14:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Kailash29792: would you like to withdraw this nomination for now? (please
ping on reply) HouseBlaster (
talk · he/him) 01:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Yes. And how do I do that? Simply say Withdraw in bold? Cos I'm doing that now. Kailash29792(talk) 02:22, 28 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. it's unhelpful to have a single church building. If not deleted/merged, the category needs to be renamed
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Added to nom.
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Ok, then merge both as nominated.
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. unhelpful for navigation to only have one village in this category.
Mason (
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Merge, all villages categories should be merged to populated places regardless of their size, for consistency with many earlier closures in the past year.
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Non-defining intersection between political regime/era and type of violence. Morever, There's only one page in here, which isn't helpful for navigation
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The result of the discussion was:merge as nominated. On the numbers, there are three people who support a merge to two who oppose. However, consensus is
not a vote. Looking at the strength of the arguments presented, it is clear that those in support of a merge have refuted the argument presented by the opposition. No "by country" categories are being merged; the "by country" categories are being moved. Therefore, there is consensus to merge.
(non-admin closure)HouseBlaster (
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Keep There are already 31 different categories by U.S. state in
Category:20th-century mayors of populated places in the United States. By merging the categories, as requested in the nomination, all categories for all mayors anywhere in the globe would be lumped together in one worldwide category by century. Mayors in the United States would be jumbled together with mayors from Ukraine, Uzbekistan and Uganda, once those categories are created. This is a layer that is anything but redundant and would be extremely helpful for navigation. What am I missing here that the encyclopedia and its readers are better off having all categories for all mayors on Earth thrown together into a single parent category for every hundred-year period?
Alansohn (
talk) 16:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC)reply
This is an apparent misunderstanding of the nomination. The US categories aren't nominated for merger and there is no lumping together. The only thing the nomination achieves is removing an empty "by country" layer.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 21:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I agree that this seems like a misunderstanding. But I think the other important thing is that there are no other country categories in here right now. The nomination reflects that right now there are no other categories to jumble up. ". Mayors in the United States would be jumbled together with mayors from Ukraine, Uzbekistan and Uganda, once those categories are created. " The nomination explicitly states "for now" because there are no other categories to jumble up.
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