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Mayors of places in Colombia

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, just one, two or three articles in each of these categories and they are not part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:59, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for Now While it's unlikely, no objection to recreating any if they ever reach 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 10:45, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Video games with variable translation control

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:19, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: A category of unclear meaning and dubious value. The description says that "this category is for games that allow users to control their avatar at variable translation speeds", which is rather vaguely defined, would apply to countless games across completely different genres (e.g. every single car-driving game?), and seems to be far too trivial to be a category. The category has been originally created by User:Sly Snake, seemingly as a companion to his article " variable translation control", which was deleted last year; "variable translation control" is apparently a term made up by the author and it is used nowhere else on the Internet. JudgeDeadd ( talk) 20:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete My first thought was "translation" as in being able to change the language of the game's text. Either way, this is a clear and obvious fail of WP:NONDEF. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 14:52, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - this is way too vague and broad to be a defining characteristic.-- Alexandra IDV 08:34, 16 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:City regions of England

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 22#Category:City regions of England

Category:Leaked songs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:18, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per the principals of WP:LEAK we should not be promoting leaked songs - the claims of leaked material usually come from unreliable self published sources like blogs or actually link to the leaked material itself. Not encyclopaedic and questionably factual. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 19:40, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Opposed: The category, similar to Category:Leaked albums contains mainly songs that were leaked early before an official release as a single or on an album. Thus in both they aren't really promoting leaked material as the majority of it is officially released. Also multiple of the songs link to comments from the artists or news sites about the leaks. -- HighlandFacts ( talk) 21:59, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as non-defining and rather trivial. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete not defining for the song whether it was "leaked"; imagine using such criteria on every book, product, scandal, etc. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 17:13, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete undefining. -- Richhoncho ( talk) 11:23, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Participants in the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete - this is looking like WP:SNOW already and more importantly this has serious WP:BLP concerns. Accordingly I am applying WP:IAR and going ahead and putting this to the deletion bot. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:29, 12 January 2021 (UTC)}} reply
Nominator's rationale: None of these "participants" have been convicted so having this in the "American criminals" category is an outright BLP violation. The lack of any action for the majority of them beyond arrest makes the entire identification of them with an insurrection questionable. Even for those that the RS are worth placing in the cat, WP:ONEEVENT applies. This cate's creation and population is very premature. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:08, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Support Delete: I agree with the concerns. Per my comment here[ [1]], many people attended or were involved with others attending some of the demonstrations in DC. Only a small subset of people actually participated in the unlawful entry of the capitol building. Given the implied crime associated with "storming" of the capitol I would say a relevant conviction is required for entry. That requirement would make this category rather pointless. Springee ( talk) 19:28, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Support Delete per Nominator's rationale. NedFausa ( talk) 19:32, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. WP:BLPCRIME violation as the nominator states. Category names people as perpetrators of an alleged crime. With nobody convicted yet, none of the current members should be included in the category. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:51, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:NONDEF and a kind of WP:PERFCAT. Note that a possibly unjustified parent category is not a reason for deletion, that can simply be solved by removing that parent from the category page. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:48, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy Delete — this violates many policies and guidelines already noted.
    William Allen Simpson ( talk) 22:33, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Fictional minor planets

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional astronomical locations. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:16, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one subcategory. Kepler-1229b talk 19:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Easter films

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Films about Easter. A purge to reflect that name took place during the discussion. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:30, 27 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category name like with New year films category, Is too narrow a term and estranges films that have major portions set, aboutor has themes of Easter. This also should be rename to pair with the corresponding article on the subject. ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ ( talk) 16:08, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Support per my above reasons and Category:Films about Easter could possibly work as well but this current category name, it doesn't work well with it's name. And @ User:Dimadick, Easter is a Holiday and event, not a subject so that category wouldn't work. ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ ( talk) 20:47, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete another proposed "films about" category without any objective guidance on how much about Easter the film must be for inclusion nor what reliable sources tell us that it's at least that much. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 17:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I too am at least leaning delete. Both the category and the related List of films set around Easter seem to have poorly defined criteria, to say the least. For example, I see Cool Hand Luke included because of all the Passion imagery, but as far as I know it isn't set in the spring. I also don't see that every film including biblical Holy Week events fits here; for that matter, I could argue that none of them should be included, but certainly those that do not include the resurrection do not belong. It not clear that anything much belongs other than the Easter bunny subcat and Easter Parade. Mangoe ( talk) 04:10, 15 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This is not an actual thing like Christmas films. My favorite is Easter Parade (film) has nothing to do with Easter at all. It is the most extreme case I know of of "Dawson Casting" casting someone in a role that is much younger then they are, but that is its own issue. They wanted Gene Kelly and then settled for Fred Astaire. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 21:24, 22 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose rename the "set around Easter" bit is just nonsense. We should eliminate anything that isn't an Easter film from the catalog and list article, not include things that just happen around Easter time. Dream Focus 01:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC) reply
@ User:Dream Focus Then what would you suggest? Because the current category name doesn't make sense or correlate as much as your saying the proposed one is. Easter films make it seem like the film is only about Easter when that's not the case. There's a miniscule number of films solely about the concept of Easter. This current name has to change. ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ ( talk) 02:22, 23 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Easter films is understood to be a movie about Easter or something happening during the Easter holiday that it is clearly about. Example: is there is an Easter bunny or a dog dressed up like one, or other such things? Dream Focus 02:33, 23 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Atrocious_(film) is just a movie that just happens to take place on Easter, so not a defining characteristic. Most films are in the subcategories of Easter Bunny in film‎ (14 P) and Film portrayals of Jesus' death and resurrection‎ (1 C, 28 P). The Being has nothing to do with Easter, a reviewer quoted in the Reception section says so. So that can be removed. Baby Huey's Great Easter Adventure is of course an Easter film. The solution is to remove bad entries not to change the name of the category to include them. Dream Focus 02:47, 23 January 2021 (UTC) reply
    Note, I have removed bad entries. So the problem has been resolved. Dream Focus 03:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Honestly the remaining articles aren't more clearly about Easter either. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Murdered journalists

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:14, 25 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection. No notable WP:DEFINING link between the occupation and the manner of death. Not commonly and consistently expected as a professional hazard or qualification. There may have been many years between the occupation and the death, making the link even weaker.
Note: Sources about the death of a person will often discuss both their occupation and their cause of death. This doesn't make this intersection any more notable than a combination with other aspects often discussed in such notices, such as their number of children.
Journalists who were murdered for political reasons should be in Category:Assassinated journalists.
See also: related rationale about suicides by occupation:
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 15:18, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Comment — significant overcategorization: each can be assassinated, murdered by nationality, killed by country, and killed in military conflict by country. I've left the assassinated and military conflict sets.
    William Allen Simpson ( talk) 15:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, initially I was planning to oppose, until I read that there is also a tree of Category:Assassinated journalists. That degrades the nominated categories to "Journalists who were murdered for trivial reasons". Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose Journalists are typically killed because of their dangerous occupation. We even have dedicated lists such as List of journalists killed in Europe, which cover the circumstances of each death. Dimadick ( talk) 18:47, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Note that a list is perfect for this. Those list entries verify the remaining Assassinated and military conflict categories. But most journalists aren't murdered or even killed. It is Not Defining, not commonly and consistently expected.
    William Allen Simpson ( talk) 22:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose. I concur with what Dimadick says above. It's nice we have Category:Assassinated journalists for journalists who were murdered for political reasons. What about those who were murdered by e.g. mafia for uncovering something they shouldn't have? Many of them have articles on enwiki just because they were murdered, see e.g. Ján Kuciak.-- Darwinek ( talk) 02:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose - This is a far too useful a category, and one covered significantly by the media, museums, and academic (Journalism courses) discourse. Had this been "Journalists killed in the line of duty" I would have been willing to argue. However, if you want to specify further in order to exclude journalists murdered - in, say, break-in robberies - and rename this "Journalists murdered in connection to coverage", be my guest. - Chieharumachi ( talk) 03:21, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Comment if there were an artful way to name journalists killed in action or killed for their journalism this could be notable. That a journalist was killed in an armed robbery or as a passenger on a hijacked plane or such is trivial. I also don't believe "murdered" or "assassinated" are appropriate versus "killed" unless motivation can be reliably sourced. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 17:19, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I'm inclined to keep all these. Journalists are often killed because they are journalists, in a way which does not apply to most other occupations. I'm not sure that assassination covers all the bases. Rathfelder ( talk) 22:07, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
    Checking out a sample of the base category Category:Murdered journalists each one was better categorised as assassinated. I think we need to purge these categories before we delete them. I havent found any who were not killed because they were journalists, with the possible exception of Jill Dando. Most were clearly assassinated, but some were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Rathfelder ( talk) 23:26, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Many journalists are killed while working but not assassinated for political reasons (e.g., embedded journalists). This is a useful tree. Grutness... wha? 01:59, 15 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • comment The whole murdered journalist category structure has serious problems. For example, Michael Kelly (editor) is subsumed within it because he was killed while covering the Iraq war, but he died in an accident which occurred when the troops he was travelling were attacked. He wasn't killed by enemy fire or because there was something unwelcome about his coverage, and in any case most deaths in warfare can hardly be called murder. I think there is general interest in war correspondents who were killed in that service, and there is reason to have a category structure of assassinated journalists, but the current structure seems to be misrepresenting a lot of people, as the "keep" comments above suggest: the structure as it stands is being assumed to hold people whose death was a consequence of someone objecting to their reporting, when the categories themselves make no such promise. Mangoe ( talk) 04:35, 15 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Thank you for checking what is actually in the categories. Moving journalists from murdered to assassinated (if applicable) would be very helpful. Marcocapelle ( talk) 03:13, 17 January 2021 (UTC) reply
I've purged the main category. In the country subcategories there are clearly some people like Jill Dando and Victor Noir who were clearly killed because they were journalists - but I'm not sure we can say they were assassinated. Rathfelder ( talk) 13:35, 17 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, Category:Journalists killed in Turkey is notable enough since it does not include accidental deaths and includes notable events and some of them not assasinations. I think that the problems should be addressed in every problematic subcategory rather than deleting all, because there's always been a risk about accidental deletion. Ahmetlii ( talk) 16:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose end to Category:Killed journalists by country and its sub-cats. The location of where a journalist is killed is often significant, but it also often has nothing to do with natinality. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 21:33, 22 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:People associated with W. B. Yeats

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:13, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCASSOC. This category contains the likes of a painter who made a portrait of Yeats. The lone "family relative" in the category was Yeats's wife, and therefore belongs in the family category. Place Clichy ( talk) 14:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Geography of the Tibet Autonomous Region

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:33, 27 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Both expressions refer to the same physical location. It is therefore not meaningful to have separate geography category trees. Content seems to be split between the two without much logic, e.g. Category:Township-level divisions of Tibet is in the second category whereas Category:Subdivisions of Tibet in the first one. Place Clichy ( talk) 13:40, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, completely overlapping scope. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:39, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose The Tibet Autonomous Region only includes part of the historic region of Tibet, specifically western and central Tibet. The rest of Chinese-controlled Tibet has been incorporated into other Chinese provinces, such as Sichuan, and Qinghai. Other areas of the region are administered by India as part of the Ladakh region. There is also the matter of the so-called South Tibet, China's term for Assam Himalaya. These areas were formerly controlled by Tibet, were later annexed by the British Raj, and are currently divided among India and Bhutan. Dimadick ( talk) 19:09, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Borders of countries may change in the course of time, for example France grew larger in the course of centuries, without that leading to a separate country category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:27, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I don't think that this reflects at all how Category:Tibet and Category:Tibet Autonomous Region are organized. Much of the content related to Tibet (not the larger region) is categories called Tibet, not TAR. The way it stands now, we have category cycles and misplaced content aplenty, unsurprising for categories with so much overlap. The history of claims over Ladakh, Assam, Aksai Chin and other places is of course interesting, but using them as basis for rescoping Tibet categories would probably result in more disruption than improvement. Anyway, I do not read anything in your comment arguing in favour of such a rescoping. Place Clichy ( talk) 15:50, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Celtic Wave ports

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:11, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Celtic Wave redirects to Irish Sea, and the term is not even mentioned in this article. This seems to be a little-used alternative name for the same body of water. Place Clichy ( talk) 10:25, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Municipalities in Canada

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:11, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: US and Canada are the only exceptions in the Category:Municipalities (we probably need a 'by country' container category). I can't think of any reason why we would need to rise 'in' for those two countries and 'of' for the rest of the world, so I suggest standardizing the the more common form. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:54, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Municipalities in the United States

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 27#Category:Municipalities in the United States

Category:CBS Television Distribution

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:09, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: CBS Television Distribution has been renamed into CBS Media Ventures. Ridwan97 ( talk) 04:16, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Rename for Now To match the bold rename of the main article, which appears to be non-controversial. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:29, 19 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Recipients of the Wilhelm Ernst War Cross

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:08, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OVERLAPCAT and WP:OCAWARD)
The Iron Cross was the top military award of Germany and is among a handful of awards that might actually be defining. On the other hand, the Wilhelm Ernst War Cross was awarded by the Grand Duchy of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach to people who had already won the Iron Cross. This award is so non-defining that almost none of the articles in the category even mention it. There wasn't a list so I created one right here in the main article for any readers interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:48, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, another obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This is not the type of award that is so defining that the person having received it will almost always be identified in this way. That is the level of definingness we need to justify having an award category. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:48, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Stevie Awards

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:07, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD approaching WP:TRIVIALCAT)
The Stevie Awards are a vanity award that businesses pay to enter and the article contains this little nugget:
According to the organization, awards are given in hundreds of categories, and 30-40% of entrants receive an award.
What else can I add? - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:48, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Mayors of places in Colombia

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, just one, two or three articles in each of these categories and they are not part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:59, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for Now While it's unlikely, no objection to recreating any if they ever reach 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 10:45, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Video games with variable translation control

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:19, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: A category of unclear meaning and dubious value. The description says that "this category is for games that allow users to control their avatar at variable translation speeds", which is rather vaguely defined, would apply to countless games across completely different genres (e.g. every single car-driving game?), and seems to be far too trivial to be a category. The category has been originally created by User:Sly Snake, seemingly as a companion to his article " variable translation control", which was deleted last year; "variable translation control" is apparently a term made up by the author and it is used nowhere else on the Internet. JudgeDeadd ( talk) 20:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete My first thought was "translation" as in being able to change the language of the game's text. Either way, this is a clear and obvious fail of WP:NONDEF. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 14:52, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - this is way too vague and broad to be a defining characteristic.-- Alexandra IDV 08:34, 16 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:City regions of England

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 22#Category:City regions of England

Category:Leaked songs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:18, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per the principals of WP:LEAK we should not be promoting leaked songs - the claims of leaked material usually come from unreliable self published sources like blogs or actually link to the leaked material itself. Not encyclopaedic and questionably factual. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 19:40, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Opposed: The category, similar to Category:Leaked albums contains mainly songs that were leaked early before an official release as a single or on an album. Thus in both they aren't really promoting leaked material as the majority of it is officially released. Also multiple of the songs link to comments from the artists or news sites about the leaks. -- HighlandFacts ( talk) 21:59, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as non-defining and rather trivial. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete not defining for the song whether it was "leaked"; imagine using such criteria on every book, product, scandal, etc. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 17:13, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete undefining. -- Richhoncho ( talk) 11:23, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Participants in the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete - this is looking like WP:SNOW already and more importantly this has serious WP:BLP concerns. Accordingly I am applying WP:IAR and going ahead and putting this to the deletion bot. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:29, 12 January 2021 (UTC)}} reply
Nominator's rationale: None of these "participants" have been convicted so having this in the "American criminals" category is an outright BLP violation. The lack of any action for the majority of them beyond arrest makes the entire identification of them with an insurrection questionable. Even for those that the RS are worth placing in the cat, WP:ONEEVENT applies. This cate's creation and population is very premature. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:08, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Support Delete: I agree with the concerns. Per my comment here[ [1]], many people attended or were involved with others attending some of the demonstrations in DC. Only a small subset of people actually participated in the unlawful entry of the capitol building. Given the implied crime associated with "storming" of the capitol I would say a relevant conviction is required for entry. That requirement would make this category rather pointless. Springee ( talk) 19:28, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Support Delete per Nominator's rationale. NedFausa ( talk) 19:32, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. WP:BLPCRIME violation as the nominator states. Category names people as perpetrators of an alleged crime. With nobody convicted yet, none of the current members should be included in the category. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:51, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:NONDEF and a kind of WP:PERFCAT. Note that a possibly unjustified parent category is not a reason for deletion, that can simply be solved by removing that parent from the category page. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:48, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy Delete — this violates many policies and guidelines already noted.
    William Allen Simpson ( talk) 22:33, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Fictional minor planets

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional astronomical locations. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:16, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one subcategory. Kepler-1229b talk 19:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Easter films

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Films about Easter. A purge to reflect that name took place during the discussion. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:30, 27 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category name like with New year films category, Is too narrow a term and estranges films that have major portions set, aboutor has themes of Easter. This also should be rename to pair with the corresponding article on the subject. ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ ( talk) 16:08, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Support per my above reasons and Category:Films about Easter could possibly work as well but this current category name, it doesn't work well with it's name. And @ User:Dimadick, Easter is a Holiday and event, not a subject so that category wouldn't work. ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ ( talk) 20:47, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete another proposed "films about" category without any objective guidance on how much about Easter the film must be for inclusion nor what reliable sources tell us that it's at least that much. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 17:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I too am at least leaning delete. Both the category and the related List of films set around Easter seem to have poorly defined criteria, to say the least. For example, I see Cool Hand Luke included because of all the Passion imagery, but as far as I know it isn't set in the spring. I also don't see that every film including biblical Holy Week events fits here; for that matter, I could argue that none of them should be included, but certainly those that do not include the resurrection do not belong. It not clear that anything much belongs other than the Easter bunny subcat and Easter Parade. Mangoe ( talk) 04:10, 15 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This is not an actual thing like Christmas films. My favorite is Easter Parade (film) has nothing to do with Easter at all. It is the most extreme case I know of of "Dawson Casting" casting someone in a role that is much younger then they are, but that is its own issue. They wanted Gene Kelly and then settled for Fred Astaire. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 21:24, 22 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose rename the "set around Easter" bit is just nonsense. We should eliminate anything that isn't an Easter film from the catalog and list article, not include things that just happen around Easter time. Dream Focus 01:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC) reply
@ User:Dream Focus Then what would you suggest? Because the current category name doesn't make sense or correlate as much as your saying the proposed one is. Easter films make it seem like the film is only about Easter when that's not the case. There's a miniscule number of films solely about the concept of Easter. This current name has to change. ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ ( talk) 02:22, 23 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Easter films is understood to be a movie about Easter or something happening during the Easter holiday that it is clearly about. Example: is there is an Easter bunny or a dog dressed up like one, or other such things? Dream Focus 02:33, 23 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Atrocious_(film) is just a movie that just happens to take place on Easter, so not a defining characteristic. Most films are in the subcategories of Easter Bunny in film‎ (14 P) and Film portrayals of Jesus' death and resurrection‎ (1 C, 28 P). The Being has nothing to do with Easter, a reviewer quoted in the Reception section says so. So that can be removed. Baby Huey's Great Easter Adventure is of course an Easter film. The solution is to remove bad entries not to change the name of the category to include them. Dream Focus 02:47, 23 January 2021 (UTC) reply
    Note, I have removed bad entries. So the problem has been resolved. Dream Focus 03:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Honestly the remaining articles aren't more clearly about Easter either. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Murdered journalists

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:14, 25 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection. No notable WP:DEFINING link between the occupation and the manner of death. Not commonly and consistently expected as a professional hazard or qualification. There may have been many years between the occupation and the death, making the link even weaker.
Note: Sources about the death of a person will often discuss both their occupation and their cause of death. This doesn't make this intersection any more notable than a combination with other aspects often discussed in such notices, such as their number of children.
Journalists who were murdered for political reasons should be in Category:Assassinated journalists.
See also: related rationale about suicides by occupation:
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 15:18, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Comment — significant overcategorization: each can be assassinated, murdered by nationality, killed by country, and killed in military conflict by country. I've left the assassinated and military conflict sets.
    William Allen Simpson ( talk) 15:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, initially I was planning to oppose, until I read that there is also a tree of Category:Assassinated journalists. That degrades the nominated categories to "Journalists who were murdered for trivial reasons". Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose Journalists are typically killed because of their dangerous occupation. We even have dedicated lists such as List of journalists killed in Europe, which cover the circumstances of each death. Dimadick ( talk) 18:47, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Note that a list is perfect for this. Those list entries verify the remaining Assassinated and military conflict categories. But most journalists aren't murdered or even killed. It is Not Defining, not commonly and consistently expected.
    William Allen Simpson ( talk) 22:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose. I concur with what Dimadick says above. It's nice we have Category:Assassinated journalists for journalists who were murdered for political reasons. What about those who were murdered by e.g. mafia for uncovering something they shouldn't have? Many of them have articles on enwiki just because they were murdered, see e.g. Ján Kuciak.-- Darwinek ( talk) 02:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose - This is a far too useful a category, and one covered significantly by the media, museums, and academic (Journalism courses) discourse. Had this been "Journalists killed in the line of duty" I would have been willing to argue. However, if you want to specify further in order to exclude journalists murdered - in, say, break-in robberies - and rename this "Journalists murdered in connection to coverage", be my guest. - Chieharumachi ( talk) 03:21, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Comment if there were an artful way to name journalists killed in action or killed for their journalism this could be notable. That a journalist was killed in an armed robbery or as a passenger on a hijacked plane or such is trivial. I also don't believe "murdered" or "assassinated" are appropriate versus "killed" unless motivation can be reliably sourced. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 17:19, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I'm inclined to keep all these. Journalists are often killed because they are journalists, in a way which does not apply to most other occupations. I'm not sure that assassination covers all the bases. Rathfelder ( talk) 22:07, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
    Checking out a sample of the base category Category:Murdered journalists each one was better categorised as assassinated. I think we need to purge these categories before we delete them. I havent found any who were not killed because they were journalists, with the possible exception of Jill Dando. Most were clearly assassinated, but some were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Rathfelder ( talk) 23:26, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Many journalists are killed while working but not assassinated for political reasons (e.g., embedded journalists). This is a useful tree. Grutness... wha? 01:59, 15 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • comment The whole murdered journalist category structure has serious problems. For example, Michael Kelly (editor) is subsumed within it because he was killed while covering the Iraq war, but he died in an accident which occurred when the troops he was travelling were attacked. He wasn't killed by enemy fire or because there was something unwelcome about his coverage, and in any case most deaths in warfare can hardly be called murder. I think there is general interest in war correspondents who were killed in that service, and there is reason to have a category structure of assassinated journalists, but the current structure seems to be misrepresenting a lot of people, as the "keep" comments above suggest: the structure as it stands is being assumed to hold people whose death was a consequence of someone objecting to their reporting, when the categories themselves make no such promise. Mangoe ( talk) 04:35, 15 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Thank you for checking what is actually in the categories. Moving journalists from murdered to assassinated (if applicable) would be very helpful. Marcocapelle ( talk) 03:13, 17 January 2021 (UTC) reply
I've purged the main category. In the country subcategories there are clearly some people like Jill Dando and Victor Noir who were clearly killed because they were journalists - but I'm not sure we can say they were assassinated. Rathfelder ( talk) 13:35, 17 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, Category:Journalists killed in Turkey is notable enough since it does not include accidental deaths and includes notable events and some of them not assasinations. I think that the problems should be addressed in every problematic subcategory rather than deleting all, because there's always been a risk about accidental deletion. Ahmetlii ( talk) 16:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose end to Category:Killed journalists by country and its sub-cats. The location of where a journalist is killed is often significant, but it also often has nothing to do with natinality. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 21:33, 22 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:People associated with W. B. Yeats

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:13, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCASSOC. This category contains the likes of a painter who made a portrait of Yeats. The lone "family relative" in the category was Yeats's wife, and therefore belongs in the family category. Place Clichy ( talk) 14:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Geography of the Tibet Autonomous Region

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:33, 27 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Both expressions refer to the same physical location. It is therefore not meaningful to have separate geography category trees. Content seems to be split between the two without much logic, e.g. Category:Township-level divisions of Tibet is in the second category whereas Category:Subdivisions of Tibet in the first one. Place Clichy ( talk) 13:40, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, completely overlapping scope. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:39, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose The Tibet Autonomous Region only includes part of the historic region of Tibet, specifically western and central Tibet. The rest of Chinese-controlled Tibet has been incorporated into other Chinese provinces, such as Sichuan, and Qinghai. Other areas of the region are administered by India as part of the Ladakh region. There is also the matter of the so-called South Tibet, China's term for Assam Himalaya. These areas were formerly controlled by Tibet, were later annexed by the British Raj, and are currently divided among India and Bhutan. Dimadick ( talk) 19:09, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Borders of countries may change in the course of time, for example France grew larger in the course of centuries, without that leading to a separate country category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:27, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I don't think that this reflects at all how Category:Tibet and Category:Tibet Autonomous Region are organized. Much of the content related to Tibet (not the larger region) is categories called Tibet, not TAR. The way it stands now, we have category cycles and misplaced content aplenty, unsurprising for categories with so much overlap. The history of claims over Ladakh, Assam, Aksai Chin and other places is of course interesting, but using them as basis for rescoping Tibet categories would probably result in more disruption than improvement. Anyway, I do not read anything in your comment arguing in favour of such a rescoping. Place Clichy ( talk) 15:50, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Celtic Wave ports

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:11, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Celtic Wave redirects to Irish Sea, and the term is not even mentioned in this article. This seems to be a little-used alternative name for the same body of water. Place Clichy ( talk) 10:25, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Municipalities in Canada

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:11, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: US and Canada are the only exceptions in the Category:Municipalities (we probably need a 'by country' container category). I can't think of any reason why we would need to rise 'in' for those two countries and 'of' for the rest of the world, so I suggest standardizing the the more common form. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:54, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Municipalities in the United States

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Category:CBS Television Distribution

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:09, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: CBS Television Distribution has been renamed into CBS Media Ventures. Ridwan97 ( talk) 04:16, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Rename for Now To match the bold rename of the main article, which appears to be non-controversial. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:29, 19 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Recipients of the Wilhelm Ernst War Cross

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:08, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OVERLAPCAT and WP:OCAWARD)
The Iron Cross was the top military award of Germany and is among a handful of awards that might actually be defining. On the other hand, the Wilhelm Ernst War Cross was awarded by the Grand Duchy of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach to people who had already won the Iron Cross. This award is so non-defining that almost none of the articles in the category even mention it. There wasn't a list so I created one right here in the main article for any readers interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:48, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, another obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This is not the type of award that is so defining that the person having received it will almost always be identified in this way. That is the level of definingness we need to justify having an award category. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:48, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Stevie Awards

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:07, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD approaching WP:TRIVIALCAT)
The Stevie Awards are a vanity award that businesses pay to enter and the article contains this little nugget:
According to the organization, awards are given in hundreds of categories, and 30-40% of entrants receive an award.
What else can I add? - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:48, 12 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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