Category:Bisexual members of the Parliament of the United Kingdom
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Nominator's rationale: It's not useful to diffuse
Category:LGBT members of the Parliament of the United Kingdom into separate subcategories for each individual "quadrant" of the LGBT community, or to diffuse
Category:Bisexual politicians into separate subcategories for each individual political role that bisexual people might hold. Our rule for LGBT people categories is to diffuse them into separate L, G, B and T subcategories only when they're large enough to need subcatting for size control purposes, and to leave them at the common "LGBT" level otherwise. Upmerging is largely unneeded here, because with the isolated exception of
Victor Grayson (who should be readded to
Category:LGBT members of the Parliament of the United Kingdom and
Category:Bisexual politicians accordingly), all of the other 11 entries in this category were simply
double-catted here without being removed from either of the parent categories in the process.
Bearcat (
talk) 17:24, 5 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Support Useless overcategorization.--
Darwinek (
talk) 09:54, 8 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment -- They may not all be "out", so that this is not necessarily useful.
Peterkingiron (
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Category:Etruscan religion
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Supportonly for the sake of consistency within this tree. Generally paganism is probably too POV. Presumably
Category:Paganism in Europe means to refer to pre-historic and pre-Christian religions in Europe.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 18:35, 5 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose. 'Etruscan religion' is a common scholarly term. Examples from the last few years:
L. Bouke van der Meer, Material aspects of Etruscan religion (2010) ISBN 9789042923669
Gleba & Becker, Votives, places, and rituals in Etruscan religion : studies in honor of Jean MacIntosh Turfa (2009) ISBN 9789004170452
N. De Grummond & E. Simon, The religion of the Etruscans (2006)
'Etruscan paganism' is barely used at all - a search in Google books brings up only three pages, mostly from before 1910, and nearly always in the context of an explicit contrast with Christianity. The argument based on the 'Paganism in Europe' category tree is countered, as the OP acknowledges, by the existence of the 'Ancient Mediterranean religions' tree. (If there is going to be revision, then it should probably be in changing the 'Paganism in Europe category tree which is weird inasmuch as it lumps ancient religions in with neopaganism, while excluding Greek, Roman, Celtic, and Mithraic religions. I don't think this is NPOV.)
Furius (
talk) 01:38, 8 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose -- The term "pagan" literally means a country dweller and comes from a period when Christianity had become the dominant religion in towns. The present name clearly means the religion of ancient Eturia, where a non-Italic language was spoken.
Peterkingiron (
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Category:1940s in Nizhny Novgorod
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Support -- The first of these has a single article and the rest are presumably a twig (not tree) leading to it.
Peterkingiron (
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Category:Bisexual members of the Parliament of the United Kingdom
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
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Nominator's rationale: It's not useful to diffuse
Category:LGBT members of the Parliament of the United Kingdom into separate subcategories for each individual "quadrant" of the LGBT community, or to diffuse
Category:Bisexual politicians into separate subcategories for each individual political role that bisexual people might hold. Our rule for LGBT people categories is to diffuse them into separate L, G, B and T subcategories only when they're large enough to need subcatting for size control purposes, and to leave them at the common "LGBT" level otherwise. Upmerging is largely unneeded here, because with the isolated exception of
Victor Grayson (who should be readded to
Category:LGBT members of the Parliament of the United Kingdom and
Category:Bisexual politicians accordingly), all of the other 11 entries in this category were simply
double-catted here without being removed from either of the parent categories in the process.
Bearcat (
talk) 17:24, 5 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Support Useless overcategorization.--
Darwinek (
talk) 09:54, 8 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment -- They may not all be "out", so that this is not necessarily useful.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 17:02, 8 April 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Etruscan religion
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Supportonly for the sake of consistency within this tree. Generally paganism is probably too POV. Presumably
Category:Paganism in Europe means to refer to pre-historic and pre-Christian religions in Europe.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 18:35, 5 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose. 'Etruscan religion' is a common scholarly term. Examples from the last few years:
L. Bouke van der Meer, Material aspects of Etruscan religion (2010) ISBN 9789042923669
Gleba & Becker, Votives, places, and rituals in Etruscan religion : studies in honor of Jean MacIntosh Turfa (2009) ISBN 9789004170452
N. De Grummond & E. Simon, The religion of the Etruscans (2006)
'Etruscan paganism' is barely used at all - a search in Google books brings up only three pages, mostly from before 1910, and nearly always in the context of an explicit contrast with Christianity. The argument based on the 'Paganism in Europe' category tree is countered, as the OP acknowledges, by the existence of the 'Ancient Mediterranean religions' tree. (If there is going to be revision, then it should probably be in changing the 'Paganism in Europe category tree which is weird inasmuch as it lumps ancient religions in with neopaganism, while excluding Greek, Roman, Celtic, and Mithraic religions. I don't think this is NPOV.)
Furius (
talk) 01:38, 8 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose -- The term "pagan" literally means a country dweller and comes from a period when Christianity had become the dominant religion in towns. The present name clearly means the religion of ancient Eturia, where a non-Italic language was spoken.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 17:06, 8 April 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:1940s in Nizhny Novgorod
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Support -- The first of these has a single article and the rest are presumably a twig (not tree) leading to it.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 17:08, 8 April 2018 (UTC)reply
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