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Luis C.deBaca is a diplomat who was an ambassador. His name is misspelled, however, with his middle initial bunched up with his last name, but without the period after the C to show it stands for a name. I don't know how to fix that, since it's the name of the article, not a problem in the article text. Check the correct way to present his surname and fix it if appropriate. Thanks! VanEman ( talk) 00:29, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
The Fine Young Capitalists ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
My edits to this article have been blocked from viewing. While I understand if I can't insert them into the article, is there a way for me, at the very least, to look at them? Oobooglunk ( talk) 18:28, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Wesley Weber ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This is the second time I have had to protect myself from defamatory practices. Can you please delete the comments associated to reference (8)? The referenced link contains no information. The reasons I believe it violates the biography is because it is completely inaccurate and libelous, there is absolutely no valid reference. Thanks for your assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pleasestopattackingwesley ( talk • contribs) 02:55, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Jorgie Porter ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
A new user recently added a death claim (27 November 2015) but I'm not seeing anything about her death. I've reverted it as a precaution.-- Auric talk 12:32, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Thomas Pogge ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/yale-ethics-professor
The article describes at length the allegations of sexual harassment against Thomas Pogge over the last twenty years. Christa Mercer, Martha Nussbaum, Fernanda Lopez Aguilar and other sources, whose names are not mentioned in the article, publicly speak out on these issues. Additionally, we are provided with two PDFs, one stating that Lopez Aguilar signed an agreement with Yale (Pogge's employer), so she would withdraw her complaints for a compensation of 2000 $. The other is a copy of the civil rights complained she failed entailing emails Pogge sent her, which support the allegations. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2840120-NDA-Yale-FLopez.html#document/p1 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2840101-Yale-Title-IX-Complaint.html#document/
We've been already discussing the quality of the buzzfeed article here /info/en/?search=Talk:Thomas_Pogge
I, personally, consider this article to be a trustworthy source, allowing us to state the following: "In May 2016 Pogge was publicly accused of sexual harassment. Former students of his claim that he manipulated students "to gain sexual advantage." In a secret agreement in 2010, Yale university paid a student $ 2,000, so she would drop her charges. In October 2015 a federal civil rights complaint was filed against Pogge. The investigation of this complaint is still pending."
141.2.134.77 ( talk) 19:35, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Yale Daily News also has an article. http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2016/05/21/philosophy-professor-accused-of-sexual-harassment/ They have looked at affidavits, and so forth. A cautious approach might (at a minimum) describe what Yale has decided so far, as reported by both Buzzfeed and Yale Daily News. Fanyavizuri ( talk) 21:01, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Well -- an IP has reverted the use of "editorial column" to "News article" https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Thomas_Pogge&diff=721453425&oldid=721450665 . I guess some folks do not understand that where editorial opinions are clearly expressed, that the article is editorial in nature. Collect ( talk) 00:28, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
For those not following along on the talk page, there is another article on this now:
https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2016/05/23/yale-philosopher-named-harassment-complaint
Fanyavizuri ( talk) 15:07, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Dimitri Soudas ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Article reads like promotional material - cut and pasted from promotional brochure? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.41.129.14 ( talk) 14:37, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Malcolm T. Elliott ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Could you please refresh my brothers page to the state it was in including his details in CURRENT. These were in place for a number of weeks until the 20th May when someone keeps entering and changing the details. Thank you Wendy Elliott Otherwise could you kindly remove his entry from your pages and be done with it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.188.247 ( talk) 23:59, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Abu Ammaar Yasir Qadhi ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) A number of editors are insisting in including in the article Abu Ammaar Yasir Qadhi the statement of fact that Qadhi is a Salafi based on the following sources:
today, American Salafis, such as Shaykh Yasir Qadhi of the AlMaghrib institute are offered as the solution.
In the spectrum of the global Salafi movement, Qadhi, who is 36, speaks for the nonmilitant majority.... He came to identify with political Salafiya, denouncing secular democracies and declaring Sufis and Shia "heretics."
I dont dispute that these are reliable sources. However, the subject of the article has himself said, more recently than either of these sources, that he is not a Salafi. Here he writes in April 2014, on a website he operates, that
Because of this, I no longer view myself as being a part of any of these Salafī trends discussed in the earlier section. ... While after more than two decades of continuous research, I do subscribe to the Atharī creed
There are other instances (Feb 2013) of the subject saying, for example, Well I guess 20 years ago when I was a teenager I definitely would have self identified as a Salafi Muslim but over the course of the last decade or so I’ve kind of sort of grown out of the movement now. Given the subjects self-identification as no longer being a Salafi, can the Wikipedia article say that he is one? nableezy - 05:49, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Glancing at the sources and articles: I suspect there are cultural issues (if not outright cultural disputes) here given how very differently Athari and Salafi movement present the same and similar information (which looks like very obvious NPOV violations). I don't keep up, but do any ArbCom findings apply?
If we don't have any detailed history to sort this out, I think we need to present that he's been past identified as Salafi, and he currently self-identifies more Athari. We need to be extremely careful what, if anything, we put in Wikipedia's voice. -- Ronz ( talk) 16:12, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Michael Oulton ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
A user account ( Satyrrills5) is persistently posting incorrect and inflammatory information that slanders the name of a living person. The sources referenced are [attempted outing redacted] news reports that made no mention of the Michael Oulton. Further, there are no criminal charges (never have been) and no accusations against the Bishop other than this individual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.187.251.59 ( talk) 17:43, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Does this policy govern all language versions of Wikipedia or just the English language version? -- HighKing ++ 17:02, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons#Bipolar disorder. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 04:04, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Allegedly Lega-C wants the page to be deleted. I have reverted the blanking. Please supervise. Xx236 ( talk) 08:31, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
I came across this as a speedy for the below reason. Obviously the rationale is too contentious to really fall under speedy criteria and the IP user makes some fairly good points. Do you guys think that this would be a good AfD candidate? Also, I'm concerned by the fact that this was created by a sockpuppet of a now blocked user.
Here's the rationale:
What do you guys think? This does fall under BLP territory given the claims. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 10:06, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Not particularly urgent or anything but this article is being used as a coatrack for objections to a development by this person. Multiple SPAs acting to reintroduce the information, albeit pretty infrequently. The information itself is sourced, though is definitely from one POV, and lends undue weight to this one issue, which is not really suitable for a BLP. I don't know what the best option is - semi-protection, or just raising it here for more people to watchlist. (It's a fairly obscure article so won't have many watchers). Polequant ( talk) 12:24, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Looking for some advice. Several issues with this page:
As it's existed since 2007(!) it isn't possible to WP:BLPPROD.
Cheers, Gricehead ( talk) 09:56, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Little birdie suggested this might be a BLP violation. I am not sure one way or another. Drmies ( talk) 23:57, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Libby Garvey ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I initially filed an AfD on this (IMO) unnotable local politician, but I'm disturbed by not only the awful writing, but more so at language that tried to create a "guilt by association" by linking a quote on a municipal issue to the late Rob Ford, and then listing all of his dastardly deeds. The article uses sources such as "Patch" and uses original research such as saying "local papers said XYZ" when it was a single article. Could someone take a look and see if they can fix this article to remove the OR and poor sourcing? That man from Nantucket ( talk) 04:50, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Please watchlist this article and opine on the articles AFD entry. That man from Nantucket ( talk) 03:53, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
I am concerned that this article is written in a rather effusive style - not complying with 'neutral point of view' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polecule ( talk • contribs) 15:38, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
On the Richard J. Jensen page--that's me!-- user:WikiEditorial101 has been adding attack tags -- attacking my credibility and honesty and alleging another editor: "also strongly suspect that this is Mr. Jensen's sock)" He fails to discuss the issue of the talk page saying that "Excuse me, Mr. Jensen, but tags are not material, much less contentious material." I argue that I have followed the rules a) Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion and b) Although Wikipedia discourages people from writing about themselves, removal of unsourced or poorly sourced material is acceptable. Rjensen ( talk) 22:50, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Jensen seems to be a long-retired history professor focusing on social history of the American midwest with one book of note. I question notability. More important is his apparent obsession with his page, which he has repeatedly edited and which has grown quite unwieldy and messy. What is an "attack tag"? Avocats ( talk) 23:00, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
The
neutrality of this article is
disputed. |
This article has no
links to other Wikipedia articles. |
WikiEditorial101 has agreed to step away from this article, and I believe this discussion can be closed. Any further issues can be addressed through ordinary editing, or talkpage discussion if needed. Thanks, Newyorkbrad ( talk) 22:42, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
I have made some suggestions regarding the lead and Occupation description at my bio on the Talk page.[ [11]] These suggested edits are based upon reliable sources listed and linked.[ [12]] Some editors agreed and were helpful in organizing the sources. I have some concerns about the tone of other editors blocking changes supported by reliable sources. In response one editor said,"it is time for a ban"[ [13]], while another categorized me as on the "fringe." [ [14]] I was previously told that I could make suggestions at the Talk page of my bio. And I have acted in good faith and made suggestions based upon reliable sources within Wikipedia guidelines. What do you think? Are the suggested edits well supported? Rick Alan Ross ( talk) 21:02, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
"The only thing I can think of is to have Rick Alan Ross put his proposed edits to WP:RFC. If they pass fine, however, if there is yet again no consensus for them to be added and he brings of up the issue again without significantly better sources then it is time for a ban."[15] (ul added) Please do not do that again. Anyway ANI is the right place for your behavioral complaint and I believe another editor is opening a thread at WP:FTN for the content issues. Jbh Talk 21:27, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
As to your other comments above link some WP:DIFFs at WP:ANI. I will be more than happy to have my behavior and judgement reviewed by the community. I strongly suggest that you not misquote me as you did above when you make that complaint though - that is not only deceptive but rude as well. Jbh Talk 15:15, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
WP:FTN discussion started: Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Rick_Alan_Ross_-_deprogrammer. My apologies for the delay in starting it. -- Ronz ( talk) 16:19, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
"but there is nothing WP:FRINGE about deprogramming" I'm afraid that the consensus is clearly the opposite. -- Ronz ( talk) 16:11, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Jason Whitlock ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
First line - calls him a "racist" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.89.242.128 ( talk) 17:18, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I've just posted a message at Talk:Jonathan Dach raising questions about whether this article should exist. It's quite plainly a WP:COATRACK as there is little "biography" to be written about this non-public figure who was cleared of wrongdoing in a minor White House controversy from two years ago. I believe the article should be deleted for WP:BLP1E reasons and any relevant information about the administration controversy moved to another article. However, I have refrained from nominating it for deletion myself because I have been retained as a consultant by Mr. Dach's family to see what can be done about this article. I'd very much appreciate anyone taking the effort to read my full explanation at Talk:Jonathan Dach and, if you agree, nominate the article for deletion. I will also be letting the creator of the entry know that I have raised these questions. WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 20:42, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Done - page has been AFD'ed per COI editor's request; uncontroversial close LavaBaron ( talk) 23:40, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Nyle DiMarco ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hello all,
IP editors have been adding an unsourced birth date to Nyle DiMarco all day, and have been reverted, including twice by myself. Now User:Fuccbui has added the date, and sourced it to famousbirthdays.com. My understanding is that this is not a reliable source because it is user-generated content (see this thread on WP:RSN). I would like to note that I have not seen the date published in a more usual reliable source, like an interview. I would like more opinions on this, because we should be using only high quality sources for BLPs per the policy. Comments would be welcome. I just wanted more editors' eyes on this. MisterRandomized ( talk) 01:49, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
[20] shows an IP editor repeating an attempt to add the Hulk Hogan funding rumour to the Peter Thiel BLP.
Sourced to the famous reliable source:
An earlier version which did not make as strong a claim was sourced to
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/business/dealbook/gawker-founder-suspects-a-common-financer-behind-lawsuits.html?_r=0&mtrref=undefined&gwh=8EB856CA694BEE35DAD21A061BACB400&gwt=pay which is carefully worded attributing the claim to Mr. Denton (Gawker head) who is quoted as speculating that Thiel is behind Gawker's legal woes. ("Mr. Denton has begun to question whether Mr. Harder has a benefactor, perhaps one of the many subjects of Gawker’s skewering coverage.")
As it stands, I am not allowed to remove the fornication claim from any article - so ask that others view this rumor claim material which has no substantive fact connection to Thiel, and is likely a BLP violation concerning Hogan. Collect ( talk) 13:41, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Thiel secretly backed Hulk Hogan's multi-million dollar lawsuit against Gawker Media [93] in an attempt to bankrupt the publication as revenge for writing critically of him. sourced to Forbes is still in the BLP. http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2016/05/24/this-silicon-valley-billionaire-has-been-secretly-funding-hulk-hogans-lawsuits-against-gawker/#7ab014227805
Problem is that the article specifies:
And attributes all other claims to "According to people familiar with the situation who agreed to speak on condition of anonymity," which I rather think means "anonymous sources". "attempt to bankrupt" appears on its face to be a claim of a criminal act. And is not in the source given. Collect ( talk) 14:12, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
... at White Nationalist and Supremacist Support for Donald Trump in 2016. I don't have enough time to properly cleanup this article and it definitely needs some attention.- Mr X 11:16, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Someone is adding unverified information and personal attacks towards the deceased son of the person of interest in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.185.176.212 ( talk) 01:18, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
Read this: /info/en/?search=Talk:John_Cryan
He was born in SUNDERLAND, not in Harrogate: https://global.handelsblatt.com/edition/429/ressort/finance/article/riding-with-the-king I quote this above-mentioned article: "It was actually a coincidence that Mr. Cryan became a banker. He was born into a middle-class family in SUNDERLAND, a tough working-class city in the northeast of England. His mother died when he was a child. He went to Cambridge to study physics, where Stephen Hawking was one of his professors. After graduating, Mr. Cryan wasn’t sure what to do. He thought about pursuing a PhD. But his father, a jazz musician in the legendary London club Ronny Scott’s, had died while Mr. Cryan was a student. So he needed money. After a short spell as an auditor, he joined the British investment bank SG Warburg." - "Handelsblatt reporter Daniel Schäfer spent a week on the road with Deutsche Bank Co-Chief Executive Officer John Cryan – and soon-to-be sole CEO – as the two trotted the globe from Singapore to London to Frankfurt. Along they way, they shared a flight, carpooled, met customers and colleagues, attended a company meeting, traversed a busy trading floor, and enjoyed a Sunday brunch. Never has a journalist come this close to the most powerful banker in Germany. What the author discovered is that there is much more to this media-shy British-born banker than meets the eye. Mr. Cryan unveiled himself as charming, humorous, even mischievous – and always up for surprises. (...) In addition to being granted unprecedented access to the top banker, Mr. Schäfer met with countless current and former colleagues, customers and investors. Among them was Mr. Cryan’s long-time executive assistant. And if anyone knows the boss, it’s his secretary, who revealed one of the Deutsche Bank CEO’s quintessential qualities: He can be fierce, even furious, but never does he lose his cool."
Will someone now PLEASE correct the article on John Cryan !!!
Thank You. 78.52.193.9 ( talk) 20:03, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
What about the following source stating Sunderland as well (klick on "Find") ? http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl?type=Births&districtid=all&surname=Cryan&given=John&sq=4&start=1960&eq=4&end=1960&countyid=all Furthermore, the Handelsblatt-source is not merely an article ABOUT Mr Cryan as are all other sources inclunding the BBC, but it is an article based on an actual interview WITH Cryan himself. Therefore we have good reason to assume that Mr Cryan HIMSELF has authorised the relevant parts, especially those about his private life which include the City of Sunderland stated as his place of birth therein ! 78.52.193.9 ( talk) 20:50, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Reading all of that here, it is Wikipedia itself that is the only source unreliable, I'm afraid ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.187.81.106 ( talk) 18:13, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
FreeBMD is not completely reliable in all respects; spellings are often wrong, for example. The bigger issue is that it's a primary source, and it's hard to use without synthesis. Even an uncommon name can occur surprisingly often, so demonstrating that the record you find in FreeBMD corresponds to the subject of an article is usually original research. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 14:59, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
Page lists two birthplaces, Auburn California and Nevada City, California.
I am writing about a defamatory and clearly a copyright and trademark infringement of Marcus Schrenker. I've attempted to correct he page to what is factual and the author keeps changing it back to what I might call "fiction".
The article is malicious and sites sources that are tabloid at best. It is my understanding that Wikipedia is about a higher level of writing that is factual and correct. Marcus Schrenker is alive and well and not a financial advisor as the article claims. He never went to federal prison nor did he own aircraft, homes, and have a luxurious life that the article contends. Here is an example of the inaccuracy of the article. It claims that Marcus Schrenker plead guilty to faking his own death. I called the courthouse, where he plead guilty, and asked if this is true. They said there is no such crime, "faking your own death."
Here is the other issue. Marcus Schrenker and Marc Schrenker are two totally different people. Wikipedia is pulling Marc Schrenker into this article. Google Marc Schrenker an it points to the Marcus Schrenker article. Big problem!
Something else to ponder. Marcus Schrenker has not granted his copyright or trademark rights to Wikipedia (according to my discussions with him). This whole article smells like someone is merely trying to destroy his name and write the very worst article possible about him. My recommendation is to take it down or find an author that can write in an unbiased and balanced manner.
Concerned, Beach Pens — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beachpens ( talk • contribs) 20:36, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
Should this biographical article include discussion of criminal acts or allegations committed by the subject's adult child when there is no source which makes any connection between the subject and her child's alleged acts? As per precedent established in the biography of George W. Bush, which does not mention unrelated criminal acts committed by his daughter Jenna Bush, I believe it should not, and have removed such material. More eyes on the subject will be appreciated. NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 20:16, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
Rashida Strober — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C5:4001:7790:B44D:49:592B:980 ( talk) 21:57, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
There is ongoing discussion at Talk:Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy#Washington_Post_opinion_piece regarding the recent State department audit of Clinton's email practices. In particular dispute about the suitability of a WashingtonPost piece by the Wapo editorial board [22]. Additional voices familiar with BLP would be welcome. Gaijin42 ( talk) 15:11, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
I have asked you repeatedly to show where BLP mandates such a standard. Here's what BLP actually says...
Gaijin42 ( talk) 18:42, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
They are commenting about the audit. Its a secondary source for the audit. You are asking for a tertiary source. The content is attributed to them. Its clear it is their opinion. If you think BLP policy mandates that every opinion be commented on by an additional tertiary source, I think you should run a big RFC on to confirm your radical interpretation of RS and then get started with AWB, because there are a few million articles that need cleanup. But that is NOT what policy says. "A prime example of this is opinion pieces in mainstream newspapers. When using them, it is better to explicitly attribute such material in the text to the author to make it clear to the reader that they are reading an opinion." WP:YESPOV WP:BIASED WP:WEIGHT WP:RSOPINION Gaijin42 ( talk) 20:49, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Another point to consider is whether the editorial itself received secondary coverage: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. I don't see it as a violation of BLP to include a short summary of the editorial.-- Isaidnoway (talk) 21:12, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
FYI: Over the past three days, an anonymous IP editor added a bunch of unsourced or unreliable content to Bill Clinton sexual misconduct allegations. I've removed the offending content, but this article could use some more eyes on it to keep the poorly sourced dreck off it. Thanks. Neutrality talk 15:59, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
Steve Lombardi ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Ladies and gentlemen. Numerous times, people have changed his place of birth to Detroit, which is entirely fabricated.
A copy of his birth certificate CLEARLY states that he was born in Brooklyn, hence, the Brooklyn Brawler nickname. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhkzero ( talk • contribs) 00:35, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Aditya Rudra is the Managing Director of Victoriya Machinery Consulting LLP- India and Kazakhstan. which was established in 2011 as an organization under the Companies Act of India, aimed for the provision of Consulting advice in relation to establishment of business and representation of Indian partners in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Russia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aditrudra ( talk • contribs) 07:32, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
At top of article is placed a warning regarding "biographies of living persons". Ms. Wayne passed over 30 years ago. For the author's sake, this warning should be removed, as it is inaccurate. I have no personal interest in the outcome, this is just a noticed error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.58.145.72 ( talk) 04:39, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
I have removed some material from this article which I feel violates BLP policy. I outlined my rationale on the talk page. Can others please review my rationale and join the discussion? Thank-you. That man from Nantucket ( talk) 02:42, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
The article Mary Cullinan incorrectly reports the percentage by which Dr. Cullinan received a vote of "no confidence" from faculty senate. The wikipedia article reports that she received a vote of 76% "no confidence," but in fact she received a vote of 63% "no confidence." The figure of 63% can be found in the minutes for March 10, 2014 on the following website: http://www.sou.edu/senate/minutes/2014/index.html. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.211.104.148 ( talk) 09:34, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Rahul Easwar ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Fellow editors, I have reverted a few additions on the basis that they contained contentious material which was either unsourced or poorly sourced to a YouTube video, and requiring significant interpretation of that source. Additional input would be appreciated. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 17:20, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Parag Khanna ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Some overly promotional concerns for this article. Article appears to have been largely neglected, or I wouldn't bother posting here. I don't have time to rewrite the article, but I think it would be best if someone with the time could look it over. See my brief comments on the article's talk page . . . but it should be pretty obvious what the problems are just reading through it. Thanks! -- Jp07 ( talk) 00:52, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
A proxy hopper has attempted to insert this text into these articles. [24]
There are two issues with this text. The first is that 'assault' might be read in the legal sense, and there is no evidence the subject was ever prosecuted. The second is that few if any sources state as fact that the guard struck the boy, most only acknowledge some kind of confrontation that MAY have involved physical contact.
If any of this sounds familiar, it's because the same text from likely the same proxy editor was repeatedly inserted into the Peter Grant (music manager) article before a request on this noticeboard [25] and the comments of the editor who responded to the request on the article's talk page [26] brought that activity to a halt, at least for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.192.76.220 ( talk) 18:17, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
As reported at AN/I, a section on a social media storm was removed from Balgonie Castle, apparently by someone linked to the castle who mention legal proceedings. I have warned them about COI and NLT, and I semi-protected the article and revdelled the content as it was not sourced. However, this incident did get some press coverage in the UK (mostly tabloids), with some of the coverage here: [27] [28] [29]. Does this deserve a mention and if so how should it be included? Fences& Windows 20:05, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
The "Early Political Career" section appears to be under cited for what appears to be exceptionally salacious claims. 71.197.86.93 ( talk) 19:50, 3 June 2016 (UTC) Drew Wolfe
Zoë Quinn ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Fellow editors, Input is requested at a discussion at
WP:RSN (or at
Talk:Zoë Quinn), regarding the inclusion of the statement Harassment associated with Gamergate resulted in widespread recognition of misogyny in gaming.
in a biography of a living person. While the statement does not directly involve a named person, is this statement supported sufficiently to be a relevant inclusion to document the article subject? -
Ryk72
'c.s.n.s.' 02:32, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Hello there -
Some of you may recall that I posted a request in the BLP Noticeboard some weeks back, which can be found here: Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2016_May_17#Javad_Marandi. In the interest of full disclosure, I work at PR agency Weber Shandwick on behalf of Javad Marandi. After consulting with an Administrator, it was recommended to me that I again engage via the BLP Noticeboard as the content in Javad Marandi's Wikipedia page is in violation of the following two BLP guidelines regarding the use of reliable sources:
Context matters: The reliability of a source depends on context. Each source must be carefully weighed to judge whether it is reliable for the statement being made in the Wikipedia article and is an appropriate source for that content. In general, the more people engaged in checking facts, analyzing legal issues, and scrutinizing the writing, the more reliable the publication. Sources should directly support the information as it is presented in the Wikipedia article.
Remove contentious material that is unsourced or poorly sourced: Remove immediately any contentious material about a living person that: (1) is unsourced or poorly sourced
Again, the two edits I am requesting are:
1. After legal action, the Guardian Media Group has decided to remove articles in the Guardian/Observer which are citations 4 and 6 on Javad's Wikipedia entry. Owing to the fact that these articles have been removed and the publisher refuses to stand by their content, I do not believe they constitute verifiable third-party sources and in the interest of honest and accuracy, references to these citations should be removed from his page. You can see the removed article here: http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/09/tory-donor-was-trusted-middleman-for-oil-firm-involved-in-bribes-inquiry.
2. Additionally, Director Magazine has made corrections to their article about business in Azerbaijan to accurately reflect Javad's business interests. Specifically, he is not an owner of Pasha Construction (the 'construction company' mentioned in his Wikipedia article), but rather he is an adviser. Additionally Chinar is actually a restaurant in Baku, and Javad Marandi does not own it. We feel this sentence should be altered to more accurately reflect the content within the cited article: "Marandi owns a company in Azerbaijan called Chinar, the country's "largest distribution business" and a construction company.[3]" A more accurate statement would be: "Marandi owns the country's largest distribution business and is an adviser to a construction firm." The Director Magazine article is citation 3 on Javad's Wikipedia page and you can find it here: http://www.director.co.uk/9071-doing-business-in-azerbaijan/. If you look through the article, you’ll see what nowhere does it corroborate the information contained within Javad Marandi’s Wikipedia page.
Again, as with my previous attempts to get these rectified, I hope you'll agree that I'm not seeking to embellish or editorialise, but rather to have this article accurately reflect correct information, and I'm attempting to do so within Wikipedia's own COI guidelines. I'm reposting this request again to specifically point out which of Wikipedia's guidelines are being violated within Javad's Wikipedia page.
Please do not hesitate to get in touch if you have any questions or concerns. Btgolder ( talk) 14:21, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
Note I happen to follow this noticeboard. Another editor has done:
The source given is http://www.smh.com.au/business/unaoil-scandal-and-the-panama-papers-20160409-go2jr7.html . The source does not use the term "trusted middleman" , nor even the word "trusted" nor the word "middleman." I consider the use of quotation marks for material not in the source is misleading and an affront to WP:BLP.
Several people here are aware that I read this noticeboard, but the editor involved made a snarky comment: oh, but are you following me around?? I now assure the (expletive) editor that I do not follow him around at all and that I regard such snark as ill-suited to anyone on Wikipedia. I am, in fact, amazed that anyone would so write about a person who has made a significant number of edits (over 1250) on this noticeboard. Only SineBot has more edits than I. Warm regards. Collect ( talk) 21:16, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
FWIW, The Sydney Morning Herald appears to have removed its article from its archives. Collect ( talk) 15:42, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Tanya Nicole Kach strikes me as a BLP1E, though the particular 1E did engender a lot of news coverage at the time. The legitimacy of the article is somewhat complex:
I'm not sure that this article is of legitimate here (whether it can/should be summarily deleted as an illegitimate recreation of material deleted via AfD), or whether the material has encyclopedic significance. Since the biographee has chosen to coauthor a (minor) book about it ( Amazon sales page), it can be argued that she's no longer a private person. If the material remains, I suspect that it should be in a differently titled article. But tabloidy material is of little interest to me and I have no appetite for editing it myself. Comments? (And yes, I realize that this page is no substitute for launching an AfD or even an RfD.) -- Hoary ( talk) 04:38, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
Since Kashmiri has today added an autobiography tag to this Article, I would just like to repeat the point that I posted on the talk page at 20.12 on 07 May 2011 (UTC) after Zakhalesh had added a COI tag to this Article:
I would simply like to point out (as is clear from the contents of the discussion on the Talk page) that this Article was originally started back in 2005 in order to attack me.
As was quoted elsewhere in Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Islam:SIIEG) where the Request for an Article (No. 24) on me was first made : "Hey, check it out! After Klonimus put up this request I threw together a quick stub on Ahmad Thomson. Now Ahmad Thomson himself (or someone claiming to be him) has now created an account on Wikipedia and is edit warring over the content! He seems to have stopped for now, you'll have to go through the history to see his first person additions and apologetics. Babajobu 08:40, 2 November 2005 (UTC)"
In response, I did not remove the inaccurate allegations, but rather gave my replies to them. In so doing I have been careful to maintain an NOPV ~ which is why the Article still contains the inaccurate allegations originally made against me.
It appears that over the years some of the editors have not exercised an NOPV to put it mildly!
I am not even permitted to post my year of birth or my ethnicity, even though I have been directly aware of both for more than 66 years!
If this Article was an autobiography, believe me, the content would be very different in many respects and far more positive.
In conclusion, I would also like to point out that my personal reputation in this world, whether it is based on fact or fiction, is of minimal importance ~ ultimately God is our judge on the Last Day.
And I would also like to thank Wikipedia for the number of times it has enabled me to find the piece of information that I was looking for ~ which is why I have been happy to make a small financial contribution each year, even though it has been used to attack yours truly!
Thank you. Ahmad Thomson 15:01, 5 June 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmad Thomson ( talk • contribs)
User:Bangabandhu is repeatedly adding the name of the subject's wife, and the fact that he lives with her and his two children to this BLP. I have reverted, but the editor persists. I think that this information, although well sourced, is not sufficiently notable to be in the article and, because the subject is known to be rich, might provide an incitement for crime. There has been discussion at Talk:Alain de Botton. What do editors think? Xxanthippe ( talk) 06:46, 5 June 2016 (UTC).
Consider whether the inclusion of names of living private individuals who are not directly involved in an article's topic adds significant valuefrom WP:BLPNAME, an official policy. The fact is, his sons' names are probably irrelevant, though you could make an argument for his wife Charlotte based on the articles linked at the talk page. I won't shed any tears if it is removed. MisterRandomized ( talk) 22:47, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
Filbert007 is a close contact of the subject and has serious concerns abourt most of the sources used in the article - see talk:Peter Wyngarde and user talk:Nthep#PETER WYNGARDE BIOGRAPHY. Such is the level of concern that Filbert007 has drafted a new article at WYNGARDE PETER (Authorized Biography). I aam sure that the article as it stands has issues but other eyes are needed to look at the concerns raised re DoB, sexuality, criminal conviction and assess veracity and relevance. Note from the discussion on my talk page I do not think that legal action against Wikipedia is considered nor is the account being wrongly used by more than one person. I believe the opions are genuinely held but I think compromise may be difficult to find. Nthep ( talk) 18:18, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
A user has called multiple living people notorious anti-Semites and neo-Nazis on multiple article talk pages, here and [31], citing an article in FrontPageMag (found unreliable on this board in the past) by Steven Plaut, who has been convicted of libel against another Jewish academic he called a Judenrat Wannabe (Neve Gordon). Is it acceptable to call living people "neo-Nazis"? Ive asked the user to refactor his comments, he refused, so Ive brought this here. nableezy - 20:33, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Someone inserted libelous and unfounded information on the webpage about myself Carlos Gershenson. I removed it and answered false claims in the Talk page. I would appreciate neutral opinions to end the silly discussion and edit war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgershen ( talk • contribs) 19:06, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
The article Eric_Donaldson#Biography says: "In 2005 he was arrested on St. Vincent for possession of marijuana, and in 2011 was fined $100 in Jamaica for a similar offence."
I was thinking about removing this information (even though it is probably true, and the source seems fine) because it seems to be rather irrelevant. He is a Jamaican reggae singer-songwriter. If he was a major drug kingpin then of course we should mention that (if reliable sources exist) but it seems to me that this was a small amount of marijuana for personal use. I live in Amsterdam, so to me possession of a small amount of marijuana is not the crime of the century.
I would like to know what other people think about this. I always try to be extra careful with WP:BLPs. The Quixotic Potato ( talk) 22:31, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
Grant Starrett ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This appears to be a campaign article promoting a single candidate. Early life and education is poorly cited; Article contains irrelevant information.
Peter W. Galbraith is running for Governor in my state, so I looked him up; I found his article excessively promotional and poorly sourced. (Most of it turned out to be WP:COPYVIO from his self-descriptions on book jackets and the like). I've been going through line by line, hunting down impartial and reliable sources, bringing the article into line with them, and carefully reinstating several controversies which had been scrubbed from the page. I think I've done a decent repair job, but I'd be grateful for more opinions. Also, I noticed along the way that the article on Kai Eide, one of Galbraith's political enemies, is unduly concerned with their spat (compared to what comes up in a Google Books search) and seems non-neutral; that needs fixing.
I'm learning that the field of recent diplomatic history is often bitterly partisan, with apparently-reliable, scholarly, secondary sources unexpectedly making semi-substantiated accusations left and right, so I'd appreciate help with these articles, especially Mr. Eide's. FourViolas ( talk) 22:02, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
User talk:Zigzig20s keeps trying to list Brian Chesky as Jewish (he's of Italian-Polish Catholic descent). The source he's using is: 1. A list of names. 2. Doesn't even strictly speaking say that Chesky is Jewish. 3. Has two other errors (out of something like 10 names in total). It lists the name of Samantha Power, an Irish Catholic immigrant, right next to Chesky's. And it also lists Reid Hoffman, who also isn't Jewish. Obviously, such a source (that doesn't even strictly speaking say Chesky is Jewish) is totally unacceptable in a BLP. How can something that's already been proven error-filled be used to make such a claim? "Sure, we got two names wrong, but the other eight names are accurate?" Dohodho ( talk) 22:54, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Article is not written from a NPOV. text mostly written in a braggy tone, some directly from the website of the subject. Most importantly, the huge controversy regarding very young mountaineers and exposing young children to the inherent dangers of climbing is completely ignored. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.132.237.242 ( talk) 16:48, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
Jacob Appelbaum has recently been accused of "sexual mistreatment" by some members of the Tor Project. Most of the coverage in sources mirrors the statement from the executive director of Tor who originally made the accusations public shortly after Appelbaum departed Tor. My concern is that there are a couple of eager editors who keep adding details to the article about Appelbaum's alleged sexual encounters, sourced to websites like the Daily Dot. At least one editor has repeatedly posted a link to a website where apparently anyone can post allegations with a lot of intimate detail.
Perhaps I'm alone in thinking that we should not be a platform for potentially damaging someone's reputation. In any case, I would appreciate a few more eyes on this article. Thank you.- Mr X 02:37, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I want to know if there is any problem with using {{ Infobox criminal}} in the article. SLBedit ( talk) 02:08, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
This is with regard to the page of Gian Kumar,
He is the author of 7 books and his personal website is http://www.giankumar.com/
We can find his books in online stores such as flipkart and amazon ( http://www.flipkart.com/know-thyself-english/p/itmefqak3ppmbz6z, http://www.amazon.com/Gian-Kumar/e/B00E58S6IG)
He also writes in speakingtree.in ( http://www.speakingtree.in/gian-kumar-1)
Please let me know what are the most trusted sources from these? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.51.23.33 ( talk) 09:40, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I am the subject of this article which is so biased that it is practically libellous. All writers are subject to criticism, but the author of the article has only picked the most scathing. Some of my books have been highly praised – most notably The Empress of South America and my biography of Ike Turner, Takin' Back My Name. Four of my publishers tell me that I am the most published author in the UK with 175 titles to my name, so I must be doing something right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.205.58.146 ( talk) 09:31, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
This page was created by BarkingSpiderArrse on 16:56, 5 February 2009. This was done by members of the website http://www.arrse.co.uk. This was done after they got several British tabloids to publish defamatory and libelous articles. Those listed in the article go to those sites. They do not meet the requirement of valid sources any more than an article in the National Enquirer does in the US. Mr. Shortt has been trying to get this biography removed for years. Per you policy on biographies on living people, this is not a neutral or unbiased article. He is not a notable person either. The only reason there is anything about him in the general press is because of the vendetta by ARRSE.
This is link to their page about him: <ref> http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/The_Baron_of_Castleshort </ref>
As you can see, they think rather poorly of him. This all started when Mr. Shortt was appointed as a security adviser to the British government. This group seems to have nothing better to do than defame people and talk negatively about anyone and everyone. On their website, they can have all the fun they want, but here, this is very wrong and the page just needs to be deleted.
These people are highly skilled at using false identities to keep this page up. An example is this user E.M.Gregory. As you can see from the last attempt to remove the page, he fought it aggressively. No article about Mr. Shortt was every published in the London Times. They have real news to report on.
Thank you, SterlingSpots ( talk) 15:10, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
There was a detail from the Joshua Ryne Goldberg article that bothers me. The infobox currently describes a list of "alternate names" that he used as handles in online conversations, e.g. "Australi Witness". I think I've seen this before, and that it is a misleading practice that puts people in a bad light.
Typically, we think of aliases mostly as something that criminals use. And there's a reason for this: an alias is a name that someone gives when his real name is expected, with an implication of some underhanded purpose. I would even go so far as to say that aliases refer only to when the name is intended to be conveyed to a person, rather than typed into some software registration screen to preserve privacy. Definitely an online handle would not qualify, except I suppose on Facebook or other Chinese media outlets where real names are required by law. I don't think it would be reasonable to say that "Wnt" is my alias per se, because nobody really thinks that's my name; to illustrate further, had I suffered an unfortunate accident in the global username merge, would "Wnt~enwiki" become an alias potentially worth listing in some article simply because WMF changed it on its machine?
In the current example, I'd propose simply to fix this by having a separate infobox category for online handles -- though there are many persons for whom listing them all this way would seem improper to most people, at least in this case it makes sense. Or perhaps " pen name" would be a better umbrella term. But is some kind of policy or guideline needed to encourage people to fix this wherever they encounter it? Wnt ( talk) 13:36, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
The Telethon Kids Institute recently held an open forum on vaccination, at which a number of anti-vaxers turned up. As a result of their protest, the forum was closed early. One of the people in attendance was Judy Wilyman. Almost all of the coverage of the event (limited though it was) focused on the anti-vaxers, but none mentioned any by name. However, The Australian in their "High Wired" column alleged that Wilyman was one of the protesters who had it shut down [32]. She was certainly there, but whether or not she should be highlighted as one of those who caused it to be shut down is unclear to me, as the only source mentioning her by name is the one column in The Australian which has been running a campaign against Wilyman for some time. On the other hand, she is mentioned in The Australian, she was present at the forum, and she called for anti-vaxers to attend to forum and ask questions in her newsletter.
So my question is whether or not she should be named in the Telethon Kids Institute article. I'm concerned as some editors have been very active in trying to add negative material about Wilyman and those connected to her in multiple articles, and trying to keep some balance to this is proving challenging. We've now reached a point where they are threatening my job in order to get this material included, so this isn't a pleasant topic to wade into. I'm not sure on the correct answer in this case, so alternative opinions would be welcome.
(And just because it is likely to be raised, as the accusations have been thrown up a repeatedly - I have no connection with Wilyman, her supervisor, or anyone or anything else involved in this issue, and I am opposed to her views. My interest here is in maintaining BLP, not her agenda). - Bilby ( talk) 13:22, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
The article is terribly written, like a company brochure or website, describing their goals and achievements followed by long lists written as if they were paragraphs with complete sentences. The grammar is poor with far too many pronouns. Heck, it even gives directions on how to find it. In short, it reads more like an advertisement than an encyclopedia article.
Notability is questionable at best. Aside from the above mentioned incident, its lack of independent sources is troubling. The incident seems far more notable than the institute.
As for the incident itself, the source only mentions "Judy and her friends" in passing, and in a very odd sort of way, which is uncharacteristic for a reliable news source. I'm not familiar with The Australian, but its style and format remind me of one of those local-town free-papers that report on stuff that would only interest the locals. (Here in Anchorage we have The Press.) If so, then these are very biased and typically unreliable sources of information. They gave no reason why they would mention her, and I see no reason why we should either, because there is no indication that it is necessary for understanding the incident. Err on the side of caution. Zaereth ( talk) 01:16, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
This article was originally posted by a staff member of Mr Rynning 1 May 2015. Recently, later references to Mr Rynning's performance as CEO of Origo Partners Limited have been removed to reduce the article to more of a LinkedIn page with no substance. If the information in the article posted 11 Jun 2016 is acceptable by Wiki policy, I suggest that the article be locked to prevent further editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.146.140.221 ( talk) 11:45, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
I just came across this page: /info/en/?search=Tom_Guerra There is not sufficient citation to establish notability and recommend rapid deletion of the page. I checked all of the sources and they are not main stream media but for one brief mention in a barely sufficient article which isn't enough to establish notability in my opinion. More citations are needed to avoid deletion. 162.207.0.9 ( talk) 17:26, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
I realize this article was already brought up in another notice, but I am an experienced editor and my take on the article is different. I request assistance on reviewing of the sources used in the article. This article was originally created as an attack page and was AFD'd for being so, but the result was a provisional keep (that is, to improve the article) since there seem to be sources about the article's subject. The problem is that very few of the sources seem to be available online, so I need verification. Some of the sources also deal with subjects areas I am very inexperienced with, such as Irish and UK nobility/peerages.
I also want to stress that thus far, users that have commented on the article, including the recent AFD do not seem to fully comprehend the requirements for notability of a BLP article, feeling that brief and sometimes incidental mention in the news is tantamount to notability. One user even recently attempted to claim a self-published wiki page was a reliable source, and had to be told by myself and administrator this was not the case. And three times I have had ad hominem attacks aimed at me for my mere questioning of this article notability, rather than actual addressing of my WP:NOTEBIO policy concerns. So I would appreciate some more experienced eyes on the article. Thanks. Legitimus ( talk) 12:51, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
United States and White House have not yet confirmed his death and further there have been several reports earlier of his death which found to be wrong.Do feel we need to remove the death tag from his article until it is confirmed. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 17:48, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Anthony Pratt (businessman) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I outlined an edit request over at Talk:Anthony Pratt (businessman) 12 days ago. I realize the requested edits list is backlogged and that " there is no deadline." However, was hoping one of the editors who regularly visits this noticeboard might be willing to take a look and give feedback. Please note I have a declared COI with the subject of the page. Thanks in advance. NinaSpezz ( talk) 18:40, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
This edit of mine is being disputed at the article talk page, and outside opinions could be helpful. Thanks. The issue is whether the bolded material below is necessary to comply with WP:BLP, or violates WP:BLP, or neither:
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In my view, the bolded material is not contradicted by any reliable source, and it is necessary for NPOV, especially since the article in question involves two living persons, both Trump and Curiel. Anythingyouwant ( talk) 00:34, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
But Curiel's membership in a Latino bar association, and his appointment by a Democratic president, according to Bloch, would likely not be grounds for recusal.NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 05:18, 14 June 2016 (UTC) NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 05:18, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
@ Anythingyouwant: You came here seeking other people's opinions on a subject which is in dispute - at least that should have been your approach because that's what this board is for. You have gotten opinions from several people now. All of them have disagreed with your position - just as everyone has disagreed with you at the talk page. Your response by now should be "OK, thanks for your input, everyone; it looks like I don't have consensus to include this." Instead your response is just an extension of your response on the talk page: Argue, argue, argue. Insist, insist, insist. Wikipedia works by consensus, and the consensus here and at the talk page is clear. It's time to take the advice you asked for, and accept what is obviously the consensus to leave this out. -- MelanieN ( talk) 08:29, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
95.93.220.31 ( talk · contribs) has been adding unsourced information, and removing sourced information from João Vale e Azevedo, in an apparent attempt of WP:ADVOCACY. SLBedit ( talk) 14:50, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
User has been informed about this but continues adding unsourced content to the article. SLBedit ( talk) 16:16, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Edits over the last few days have significantly changed the article into reading like more of a CV (like with this edit, though this one in particular is a smaller concern) and glossing over controversies relating to Bundgaard (like here, here, and here). Most of the new material was added by user:Nurse12, whom I will notify after finishing this post.
Nurse12 has made some helpful edits too, including some basic biographical information and perhaps the addition of some other relevant work performed by Bundgaard. I can't undo some of the broader, problematic revisions and would like someone with rollback or other permissions to review the recent changes to this article. Thank you! Lizzius ( talk) 13:13, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm a newbie. Lizzius has taken an odd interest in 'biting' this newbie WP:DBN. Lizzius has been casting aspersions at my intentions, as I have picked one person - a washed up Arizona politician - and attempted to round out his biography. The edits I've made are consistent with other BLPs, such as adding community involvement, in order to maintain focus on Scotts political activity. (See Hillary Clinton and Marco Rubio or Arizona Governor Doug Ducey's "Business career") With no evidence, other than my desire to jump into this new world of Wikipedia and to be Bold, Lizzius has suggested that I have a COI and that I should consider a WP:Clean start, which is offensive. Granted, Lizzius has a few months more experience than I do on WP, but I have years of experience, depth of knowledge and expertise in reporting on politics in Arizona. I would welcome an objective user with some authority User:DGG, perhaps, due to his previous overview and expertise in BLP to review the edits made to this page. This page was edited heavily in 2011 and 2012 during a heated political controversy by political adversaries and reduced to a political hit piece on Scott. I'd like to try my hand at rounding out this bio without the nitpicking and undue criticisms from a user with a few months of 'experience' on WP. Nurse12 ( talk) 16:43, 15 June 2016 (UTC)nurse12
A new BLP that is well-sourced and appears to be well over notability guidelines. Subject is a former naturopathic doctor who now advocates against alternative medicine. She seems to be the only naturopath who has flipped over to science and has gotten a lot of coverage for this, which makes an entry on WP just fine, especially with coverage in Forbes, Vox, CBC, National Post, etc. and with coverage by notable physicians in the skeptic movement. Article was recently nominated for deletion with the suggestion that it should be blown-up per WP:TNT because of alleged promotional tone. This seems like overkill and a bit odd. More eyes and opinions needed. Delta13C ( talk) 10:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
This page is up for speedily deleted. I have expressed my feeling on the talk page and outside opinions would really help. First off, it's full with information about the boxer. It meets suitable standards and guidelines set by Wikipedia also. This particular article obviously wants to be made after the amount of previous attempts which have occurred. He has won a regional title and currently is ranked in the top 100 by a sanctioning body. I personally feel this is ridiculous to be up for deletion after I have given plenty of references and information throughtout this article. He's a top prospect and plenty of readers want to know information about him, so why not have a page for this young boxer? Kidsoljah ( talk) 21:16, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
I am commissioned by Irene Cara to assist in the removal of all her private information for security and safety purposes. We are attempting to remove all references to her maiden name and any home address data. I have made the appropriate edits but, the information has resurfaced. We are in process of communication with the referenced sources for the removal as well. What do we need to do to remove this data immediately? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Intltech2016 ( talk • contribs) 16:08, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Can I get some BLP eyes over at Death of Jo Cox. Specifically the information about the suspect, and application of WP: BLPCRIME. -- Kyohyi ( talk) 20:45, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
Jo Cox is also worth watching – related article and top of ITN at time of writing. StillWaitingForConnection ( talk) 21:01, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
This BLP could use a major overhaul. She is notable for being openly transgender and a Malaysian pop musician, also for her big wedding. The problem is the article is extremely promotional seeming, as it details far too much about her works in a tone inappropriate for WP. There are few sources in English, so an editor with Chinese language skills would be a great help. Delta13C ( talk) 04:18, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Patrick Cannon ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
An IP removed File:PatrickCannonMugshot.jpg which was being used in the infobox with this edit and has also changed the number of Cannon's children with this edit. The same IP's only other two edits were to the article as well, so there be some connection between the Cannon and the IP. The original content about the children is supported by a citation to the The Charlotte Observer, but I cannot find an online version of the article to verify what it says. The photo is freely licensed and I agree it's not flattering, but not sure if that is simply enough to justify its removal even if Cannon's family and friends find it offensive. This does not appear to be a highly watched article, so I am posting here in the hope of getting some feedback. Thanks in advance. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 01:09, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
If there is a DAB page called "John D Doe" and inside that DAB page there are several links to the various Does, is it appropriate to have a red link for "John D Doe (surfer)"? What about "John D Doe (pedophile)"? What about the case where none of the entries passes GNG, but are mentioned in a section of another article? My concern is that by creating such links allows the subject to be indexed through search engines, and unduly raising their internet profile when they fail to pass Wikipedia's notability guidelines. That man from Nantucket ( talk) 22:44, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
WP:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages#Where redirecting may be appropriate offers an example of using the redirect James Carrey, similar to the question you raise. Geo Swan ( talk) 10:30, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Gotta fix sentence which says that Paul Manafort seen eating Lewandowski's remains — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C470:DFAF:6C8D:84FE:B46C:7CF3 ( talk) 17:35, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Someone has edited the article replacing the name of his University as well as the amount of points in the 1st 2nd and 3rd paragraph. Also somewhere instead of the Celtics I read the Greers. I don't know how else to report this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:E004:900:901B:E7E7:9FB:82D6 ( talk) 08:21, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
I think this edit this edit is potentially libelous and should be redacted. 77.130.195.10 ( talk) 13:24, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Kim Min-hee (actress, born 1982) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I've been noticing repeated contentious/insulting edits made to the 'Occupation' section of Kim Min-hee's page /info/en/?search=Kim_Min-hee_%28actress,_born_1982%29 (edits describing her as a 'Homewrecker', 'Fox', 'Concubine', to name a few) and I suspect this is the result of recent news about her personal life, and may also be the work of individuals with an agenda given that I made edits to remove the contentious material and the insults were back on the article within minutes).
I strongly recommend closing Kim Min-hee's wiki article/locking it against further edits for at least a day, given that the edits appear to be made by people with an axe to grind against the actress for whatever reason. Please take action to prevent this.
The Wiki article David Bergstein is undergoing continuous edits, which I believe it be in violation of the living person policies. The new introduction to the article appears to have been created to disparage the subject, and makes claims about bankruptcy which do not have citations. While the article details Bergstein's career, business involvement etc., the introduction has been modified to focus on financial activity related to his companies, and over-emphasize this at the expense of what Bergstein is known for (his work in producing films, equity and advisory sector). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katieshey ( talk • contribs) 23:43, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
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Luis C.deBaca is a diplomat who was an ambassador. His name is misspelled, however, with his middle initial bunched up with his last name, but without the period after the C to show it stands for a name. I don't know how to fix that, since it's the name of the article, not a problem in the article text. Check the correct way to present his surname and fix it if appropriate. Thanks! VanEman ( talk) 00:29, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
The Fine Young Capitalists ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
My edits to this article have been blocked from viewing. While I understand if I can't insert them into the article, is there a way for me, at the very least, to look at them? Oobooglunk ( talk) 18:28, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Wesley Weber ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This is the second time I have had to protect myself from defamatory practices. Can you please delete the comments associated to reference (8)? The referenced link contains no information. The reasons I believe it violates the biography is because it is completely inaccurate and libelous, there is absolutely no valid reference. Thanks for your assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pleasestopattackingwesley ( talk • contribs) 02:55, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Jorgie Porter ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
A new user recently added a death claim (27 November 2015) but I'm not seeing anything about her death. I've reverted it as a precaution.-- Auric talk 12:32, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Thomas Pogge ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/yale-ethics-professor
The article describes at length the allegations of sexual harassment against Thomas Pogge over the last twenty years. Christa Mercer, Martha Nussbaum, Fernanda Lopez Aguilar and other sources, whose names are not mentioned in the article, publicly speak out on these issues. Additionally, we are provided with two PDFs, one stating that Lopez Aguilar signed an agreement with Yale (Pogge's employer), so she would withdraw her complaints for a compensation of 2000 $. The other is a copy of the civil rights complained she failed entailing emails Pogge sent her, which support the allegations. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2840120-NDA-Yale-FLopez.html#document/p1 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2840101-Yale-Title-IX-Complaint.html#document/
We've been already discussing the quality of the buzzfeed article here /info/en/?search=Talk:Thomas_Pogge
I, personally, consider this article to be a trustworthy source, allowing us to state the following: "In May 2016 Pogge was publicly accused of sexual harassment. Former students of his claim that he manipulated students "to gain sexual advantage." In a secret agreement in 2010, Yale university paid a student $ 2,000, so she would drop her charges. In October 2015 a federal civil rights complaint was filed against Pogge. The investigation of this complaint is still pending."
141.2.134.77 ( talk) 19:35, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Yale Daily News also has an article. http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2016/05/21/philosophy-professor-accused-of-sexual-harassment/ They have looked at affidavits, and so forth. A cautious approach might (at a minimum) describe what Yale has decided so far, as reported by both Buzzfeed and Yale Daily News. Fanyavizuri ( talk) 21:01, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Well -- an IP has reverted the use of "editorial column" to "News article" https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Thomas_Pogge&diff=721453425&oldid=721450665 . I guess some folks do not understand that where editorial opinions are clearly expressed, that the article is editorial in nature. Collect ( talk) 00:28, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
For those not following along on the talk page, there is another article on this now:
https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2016/05/23/yale-philosopher-named-harassment-complaint
Fanyavizuri ( talk) 15:07, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Dimitri Soudas ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Article reads like promotional material - cut and pasted from promotional brochure? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.41.129.14 ( talk) 14:37, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Malcolm T. Elliott ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Could you please refresh my brothers page to the state it was in including his details in CURRENT. These were in place for a number of weeks until the 20th May when someone keeps entering and changing the details. Thank you Wendy Elliott Otherwise could you kindly remove his entry from your pages and be done with it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.188.247 ( talk) 23:59, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Abu Ammaar Yasir Qadhi ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) A number of editors are insisting in including in the article Abu Ammaar Yasir Qadhi the statement of fact that Qadhi is a Salafi based on the following sources:
today, American Salafis, such as Shaykh Yasir Qadhi of the AlMaghrib institute are offered as the solution.
In the spectrum of the global Salafi movement, Qadhi, who is 36, speaks for the nonmilitant majority.... He came to identify with political Salafiya, denouncing secular democracies and declaring Sufis and Shia "heretics."
I dont dispute that these are reliable sources. However, the subject of the article has himself said, more recently than either of these sources, that he is not a Salafi. Here he writes in April 2014, on a website he operates, that
Because of this, I no longer view myself as being a part of any of these Salafī trends discussed in the earlier section. ... While after more than two decades of continuous research, I do subscribe to the Atharī creed
There are other instances (Feb 2013) of the subject saying, for example, Well I guess 20 years ago when I was a teenager I definitely would have self identified as a Salafi Muslim but over the course of the last decade or so I’ve kind of sort of grown out of the movement now. Given the subjects self-identification as no longer being a Salafi, can the Wikipedia article say that he is one? nableezy - 05:49, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Glancing at the sources and articles: I suspect there are cultural issues (if not outright cultural disputes) here given how very differently Athari and Salafi movement present the same and similar information (which looks like very obvious NPOV violations). I don't keep up, but do any ArbCom findings apply?
If we don't have any detailed history to sort this out, I think we need to present that he's been past identified as Salafi, and he currently self-identifies more Athari. We need to be extremely careful what, if anything, we put in Wikipedia's voice. -- Ronz ( talk) 16:12, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Michael Oulton ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
A user account ( Satyrrills5) is persistently posting incorrect and inflammatory information that slanders the name of a living person. The sources referenced are [attempted outing redacted] news reports that made no mention of the Michael Oulton. Further, there are no criminal charges (never have been) and no accusations against the Bishop other than this individual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.187.251.59 ( talk) 17:43, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Does this policy govern all language versions of Wikipedia or just the English language version? -- HighKing ++ 17:02, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons#Bipolar disorder. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 04:04, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Allegedly Lega-C wants the page to be deleted. I have reverted the blanking. Please supervise. Xx236 ( talk) 08:31, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
I came across this as a speedy for the below reason. Obviously the rationale is too contentious to really fall under speedy criteria and the IP user makes some fairly good points. Do you guys think that this would be a good AfD candidate? Also, I'm concerned by the fact that this was created by a sockpuppet of a now blocked user.
Here's the rationale:
What do you guys think? This does fall under BLP territory given the claims. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 10:06, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Not particularly urgent or anything but this article is being used as a coatrack for objections to a development by this person. Multiple SPAs acting to reintroduce the information, albeit pretty infrequently. The information itself is sourced, though is definitely from one POV, and lends undue weight to this one issue, which is not really suitable for a BLP. I don't know what the best option is - semi-protection, or just raising it here for more people to watchlist. (It's a fairly obscure article so won't have many watchers). Polequant ( talk) 12:24, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Looking for some advice. Several issues with this page:
As it's existed since 2007(!) it isn't possible to WP:BLPPROD.
Cheers, Gricehead ( talk) 09:56, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Little birdie suggested this might be a BLP violation. I am not sure one way or another. Drmies ( talk) 23:57, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Libby Garvey ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I initially filed an AfD on this (IMO) unnotable local politician, but I'm disturbed by not only the awful writing, but more so at language that tried to create a "guilt by association" by linking a quote on a municipal issue to the late Rob Ford, and then listing all of his dastardly deeds. The article uses sources such as "Patch" and uses original research such as saying "local papers said XYZ" when it was a single article. Could someone take a look and see if they can fix this article to remove the OR and poor sourcing? That man from Nantucket ( talk) 04:50, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Please watchlist this article and opine on the articles AFD entry. That man from Nantucket ( talk) 03:53, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
I am concerned that this article is written in a rather effusive style - not complying with 'neutral point of view' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polecule ( talk • contribs) 15:38, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
On the Richard J. Jensen page--that's me!-- user:WikiEditorial101 has been adding attack tags -- attacking my credibility and honesty and alleging another editor: "also strongly suspect that this is Mr. Jensen's sock)" He fails to discuss the issue of the talk page saying that "Excuse me, Mr. Jensen, but tags are not material, much less contentious material." I argue that I have followed the rules a) Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion and b) Although Wikipedia discourages people from writing about themselves, removal of unsourced or poorly sourced material is acceptable. Rjensen ( talk) 22:50, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Jensen seems to be a long-retired history professor focusing on social history of the American midwest with one book of note. I question notability. More important is his apparent obsession with his page, which he has repeatedly edited and which has grown quite unwieldy and messy. What is an "attack tag"? Avocats ( talk) 23:00, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
The
neutrality of this article is
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WikiEditorial101 has agreed to step away from this article, and I believe this discussion can be closed. Any further issues can be addressed through ordinary editing, or talkpage discussion if needed. Thanks, Newyorkbrad ( talk) 22:42, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
I have made some suggestions regarding the lead and Occupation description at my bio on the Talk page.[ [11]] These suggested edits are based upon reliable sources listed and linked.[ [12]] Some editors agreed and were helpful in organizing the sources. I have some concerns about the tone of other editors blocking changes supported by reliable sources. In response one editor said,"it is time for a ban"[ [13]], while another categorized me as on the "fringe." [ [14]] I was previously told that I could make suggestions at the Talk page of my bio. And I have acted in good faith and made suggestions based upon reliable sources within Wikipedia guidelines. What do you think? Are the suggested edits well supported? Rick Alan Ross ( talk) 21:02, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
"The only thing I can think of is to have Rick Alan Ross put his proposed edits to WP:RFC. If they pass fine, however, if there is yet again no consensus for them to be added and he brings of up the issue again without significantly better sources then it is time for a ban."[15] (ul added) Please do not do that again. Anyway ANI is the right place for your behavioral complaint and I believe another editor is opening a thread at WP:FTN for the content issues. Jbh Talk 21:27, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
As to your other comments above link some WP:DIFFs at WP:ANI. I will be more than happy to have my behavior and judgement reviewed by the community. I strongly suggest that you not misquote me as you did above when you make that complaint though - that is not only deceptive but rude as well. Jbh Talk 15:15, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
WP:FTN discussion started: Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Rick_Alan_Ross_-_deprogrammer. My apologies for the delay in starting it. -- Ronz ( talk) 16:19, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
"but there is nothing WP:FRINGE about deprogramming" I'm afraid that the consensus is clearly the opposite. -- Ronz ( talk) 16:11, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Jason Whitlock ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
First line - calls him a "racist" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.89.242.128 ( talk) 17:18, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I've just posted a message at Talk:Jonathan Dach raising questions about whether this article should exist. It's quite plainly a WP:COATRACK as there is little "biography" to be written about this non-public figure who was cleared of wrongdoing in a minor White House controversy from two years ago. I believe the article should be deleted for WP:BLP1E reasons and any relevant information about the administration controversy moved to another article. However, I have refrained from nominating it for deletion myself because I have been retained as a consultant by Mr. Dach's family to see what can be done about this article. I'd very much appreciate anyone taking the effort to read my full explanation at Talk:Jonathan Dach and, if you agree, nominate the article for deletion. I will also be letting the creator of the entry know that I have raised these questions. WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 20:42, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Done - page has been AFD'ed per COI editor's request; uncontroversial close LavaBaron ( talk) 23:40, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Nyle DiMarco ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hello all,
IP editors have been adding an unsourced birth date to Nyle DiMarco all day, and have been reverted, including twice by myself. Now User:Fuccbui has added the date, and sourced it to famousbirthdays.com. My understanding is that this is not a reliable source because it is user-generated content (see this thread on WP:RSN). I would like to note that I have not seen the date published in a more usual reliable source, like an interview. I would like more opinions on this, because we should be using only high quality sources for BLPs per the policy. Comments would be welcome. I just wanted more editors' eyes on this. MisterRandomized ( talk) 01:49, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
[20] shows an IP editor repeating an attempt to add the Hulk Hogan funding rumour to the Peter Thiel BLP.
Sourced to the famous reliable source:
An earlier version which did not make as strong a claim was sourced to
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/business/dealbook/gawker-founder-suspects-a-common-financer-behind-lawsuits.html?_r=0&mtrref=undefined&gwh=8EB856CA694BEE35DAD21A061BACB400&gwt=pay which is carefully worded attributing the claim to Mr. Denton (Gawker head) who is quoted as speculating that Thiel is behind Gawker's legal woes. ("Mr. Denton has begun to question whether Mr. Harder has a benefactor, perhaps one of the many subjects of Gawker’s skewering coverage.")
As it stands, I am not allowed to remove the fornication claim from any article - so ask that others view this rumor claim material which has no substantive fact connection to Thiel, and is likely a BLP violation concerning Hogan. Collect ( talk) 13:41, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Thiel secretly backed Hulk Hogan's multi-million dollar lawsuit against Gawker Media [93] in an attempt to bankrupt the publication as revenge for writing critically of him. sourced to Forbes is still in the BLP. http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2016/05/24/this-silicon-valley-billionaire-has-been-secretly-funding-hulk-hogans-lawsuits-against-gawker/#7ab014227805
Problem is that the article specifies:
And attributes all other claims to "According to people familiar with the situation who agreed to speak on condition of anonymity," which I rather think means "anonymous sources". "attempt to bankrupt" appears on its face to be a claim of a criminal act. And is not in the source given. Collect ( talk) 14:12, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
... at White Nationalist and Supremacist Support for Donald Trump in 2016. I don't have enough time to properly cleanup this article and it definitely needs some attention.- Mr X 11:16, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Someone is adding unverified information and personal attacks towards the deceased son of the person of interest in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.185.176.212 ( talk) 01:18, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
Read this: /info/en/?search=Talk:John_Cryan
He was born in SUNDERLAND, not in Harrogate: https://global.handelsblatt.com/edition/429/ressort/finance/article/riding-with-the-king I quote this above-mentioned article: "It was actually a coincidence that Mr. Cryan became a banker. He was born into a middle-class family in SUNDERLAND, a tough working-class city in the northeast of England. His mother died when he was a child. He went to Cambridge to study physics, where Stephen Hawking was one of his professors. After graduating, Mr. Cryan wasn’t sure what to do. He thought about pursuing a PhD. But his father, a jazz musician in the legendary London club Ronny Scott’s, had died while Mr. Cryan was a student. So he needed money. After a short spell as an auditor, he joined the British investment bank SG Warburg." - "Handelsblatt reporter Daniel Schäfer spent a week on the road with Deutsche Bank Co-Chief Executive Officer John Cryan – and soon-to-be sole CEO – as the two trotted the globe from Singapore to London to Frankfurt. Along they way, they shared a flight, carpooled, met customers and colleagues, attended a company meeting, traversed a busy trading floor, and enjoyed a Sunday brunch. Never has a journalist come this close to the most powerful banker in Germany. What the author discovered is that there is much more to this media-shy British-born banker than meets the eye. Mr. Cryan unveiled himself as charming, humorous, even mischievous – and always up for surprises. (...) In addition to being granted unprecedented access to the top banker, Mr. Schäfer met with countless current and former colleagues, customers and investors. Among them was Mr. Cryan’s long-time executive assistant. And if anyone knows the boss, it’s his secretary, who revealed one of the Deutsche Bank CEO’s quintessential qualities: He can be fierce, even furious, but never does he lose his cool."
Will someone now PLEASE correct the article on John Cryan !!!
Thank You. 78.52.193.9 ( talk) 20:03, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
What about the following source stating Sunderland as well (klick on "Find") ? http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl?type=Births&districtid=all&surname=Cryan&given=John&sq=4&start=1960&eq=4&end=1960&countyid=all Furthermore, the Handelsblatt-source is not merely an article ABOUT Mr Cryan as are all other sources inclunding the BBC, but it is an article based on an actual interview WITH Cryan himself. Therefore we have good reason to assume that Mr Cryan HIMSELF has authorised the relevant parts, especially those about his private life which include the City of Sunderland stated as his place of birth therein ! 78.52.193.9 ( talk) 20:50, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Reading all of that here, it is Wikipedia itself that is the only source unreliable, I'm afraid ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.187.81.106 ( talk) 18:13, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
FreeBMD is not completely reliable in all respects; spellings are often wrong, for example. The bigger issue is that it's a primary source, and it's hard to use without synthesis. Even an uncommon name can occur surprisingly often, so demonstrating that the record you find in FreeBMD corresponds to the subject of an article is usually original research. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 14:59, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
Page lists two birthplaces, Auburn California and Nevada City, California.
I am writing about a defamatory and clearly a copyright and trademark infringement of Marcus Schrenker. I've attempted to correct he page to what is factual and the author keeps changing it back to what I might call "fiction".
The article is malicious and sites sources that are tabloid at best. It is my understanding that Wikipedia is about a higher level of writing that is factual and correct. Marcus Schrenker is alive and well and not a financial advisor as the article claims. He never went to federal prison nor did he own aircraft, homes, and have a luxurious life that the article contends. Here is an example of the inaccuracy of the article. It claims that Marcus Schrenker plead guilty to faking his own death. I called the courthouse, where he plead guilty, and asked if this is true. They said there is no such crime, "faking your own death."
Here is the other issue. Marcus Schrenker and Marc Schrenker are two totally different people. Wikipedia is pulling Marc Schrenker into this article. Google Marc Schrenker an it points to the Marcus Schrenker article. Big problem!
Something else to ponder. Marcus Schrenker has not granted his copyright or trademark rights to Wikipedia (according to my discussions with him). This whole article smells like someone is merely trying to destroy his name and write the very worst article possible about him. My recommendation is to take it down or find an author that can write in an unbiased and balanced manner.
Concerned, Beach Pens — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beachpens ( talk • contribs) 20:36, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
Should this biographical article include discussion of criminal acts or allegations committed by the subject's adult child when there is no source which makes any connection between the subject and her child's alleged acts? As per precedent established in the biography of George W. Bush, which does not mention unrelated criminal acts committed by his daughter Jenna Bush, I believe it should not, and have removed such material. More eyes on the subject will be appreciated. NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 20:16, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
Rashida Strober — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C5:4001:7790:B44D:49:592B:980 ( talk) 21:57, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
There is ongoing discussion at Talk:Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy#Washington_Post_opinion_piece regarding the recent State department audit of Clinton's email practices. In particular dispute about the suitability of a WashingtonPost piece by the Wapo editorial board [22]. Additional voices familiar with BLP would be welcome. Gaijin42 ( talk) 15:11, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
I have asked you repeatedly to show where BLP mandates such a standard. Here's what BLP actually says...
Gaijin42 ( talk) 18:42, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
They are commenting about the audit. Its a secondary source for the audit. You are asking for a tertiary source. The content is attributed to them. Its clear it is their opinion. If you think BLP policy mandates that every opinion be commented on by an additional tertiary source, I think you should run a big RFC on to confirm your radical interpretation of RS and then get started with AWB, because there are a few million articles that need cleanup. But that is NOT what policy says. "A prime example of this is opinion pieces in mainstream newspapers. When using them, it is better to explicitly attribute such material in the text to the author to make it clear to the reader that they are reading an opinion." WP:YESPOV WP:BIASED WP:WEIGHT WP:RSOPINION Gaijin42 ( talk) 20:49, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Another point to consider is whether the editorial itself received secondary coverage: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. I don't see it as a violation of BLP to include a short summary of the editorial.-- Isaidnoway (talk) 21:12, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
FYI: Over the past three days, an anonymous IP editor added a bunch of unsourced or unreliable content to Bill Clinton sexual misconduct allegations. I've removed the offending content, but this article could use some more eyes on it to keep the poorly sourced dreck off it. Thanks. Neutrality talk 15:59, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
Steve Lombardi ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Ladies and gentlemen. Numerous times, people have changed his place of birth to Detroit, which is entirely fabricated.
A copy of his birth certificate CLEARLY states that he was born in Brooklyn, hence, the Brooklyn Brawler nickname. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhkzero ( talk • contribs) 00:35, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Aditya Rudra is the Managing Director of Victoriya Machinery Consulting LLP- India and Kazakhstan. which was established in 2011 as an organization under the Companies Act of India, aimed for the provision of Consulting advice in relation to establishment of business and representation of Indian partners in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Russia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aditrudra ( talk • contribs) 07:32, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
At top of article is placed a warning regarding "biographies of living persons". Ms. Wayne passed over 30 years ago. For the author's sake, this warning should be removed, as it is inaccurate. I have no personal interest in the outcome, this is just a noticed error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.58.145.72 ( talk) 04:39, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
I have removed some material from this article which I feel violates BLP policy. I outlined my rationale on the talk page. Can others please review my rationale and join the discussion? Thank-you. That man from Nantucket ( talk) 02:42, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
The article Mary Cullinan incorrectly reports the percentage by which Dr. Cullinan received a vote of "no confidence" from faculty senate. The wikipedia article reports that she received a vote of 76% "no confidence," but in fact she received a vote of 63% "no confidence." The figure of 63% can be found in the minutes for March 10, 2014 on the following website: http://www.sou.edu/senate/minutes/2014/index.html. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.211.104.148 ( talk) 09:34, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Rahul Easwar ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Fellow editors, I have reverted a few additions on the basis that they contained contentious material which was either unsourced or poorly sourced to a YouTube video, and requiring significant interpretation of that source. Additional input would be appreciated. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 17:20, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Parag Khanna ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Some overly promotional concerns for this article. Article appears to have been largely neglected, or I wouldn't bother posting here. I don't have time to rewrite the article, but I think it would be best if someone with the time could look it over. See my brief comments on the article's talk page . . . but it should be pretty obvious what the problems are just reading through it. Thanks! -- Jp07 ( talk) 00:52, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
A proxy hopper has attempted to insert this text into these articles. [24]
There are two issues with this text. The first is that 'assault' might be read in the legal sense, and there is no evidence the subject was ever prosecuted. The second is that few if any sources state as fact that the guard struck the boy, most only acknowledge some kind of confrontation that MAY have involved physical contact.
If any of this sounds familiar, it's because the same text from likely the same proxy editor was repeatedly inserted into the Peter Grant (music manager) article before a request on this noticeboard [25] and the comments of the editor who responded to the request on the article's talk page [26] brought that activity to a halt, at least for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.192.76.220 ( talk) 18:17, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
As reported at AN/I, a section on a social media storm was removed from Balgonie Castle, apparently by someone linked to the castle who mention legal proceedings. I have warned them about COI and NLT, and I semi-protected the article and revdelled the content as it was not sourced. However, this incident did get some press coverage in the UK (mostly tabloids), with some of the coverage here: [27] [28] [29]. Does this deserve a mention and if so how should it be included? Fences& Windows 20:05, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
The "Early Political Career" section appears to be under cited for what appears to be exceptionally salacious claims. 71.197.86.93 ( talk) 19:50, 3 June 2016 (UTC) Drew Wolfe
Zoë Quinn ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Fellow editors, Input is requested at a discussion at
WP:RSN (or at
Talk:Zoë Quinn), regarding the inclusion of the statement Harassment associated with Gamergate resulted in widespread recognition of misogyny in gaming.
in a biography of a living person. While the statement does not directly involve a named person, is this statement supported sufficiently to be a relevant inclusion to document the article subject? -
Ryk72
'c.s.n.s.' 02:32, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Hello there -
Some of you may recall that I posted a request in the BLP Noticeboard some weeks back, which can be found here: Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2016_May_17#Javad_Marandi. In the interest of full disclosure, I work at PR agency Weber Shandwick on behalf of Javad Marandi. After consulting with an Administrator, it was recommended to me that I again engage via the BLP Noticeboard as the content in Javad Marandi's Wikipedia page is in violation of the following two BLP guidelines regarding the use of reliable sources:
Context matters: The reliability of a source depends on context. Each source must be carefully weighed to judge whether it is reliable for the statement being made in the Wikipedia article and is an appropriate source for that content. In general, the more people engaged in checking facts, analyzing legal issues, and scrutinizing the writing, the more reliable the publication. Sources should directly support the information as it is presented in the Wikipedia article.
Remove contentious material that is unsourced or poorly sourced: Remove immediately any contentious material about a living person that: (1) is unsourced or poorly sourced
Again, the two edits I am requesting are:
1. After legal action, the Guardian Media Group has decided to remove articles in the Guardian/Observer which are citations 4 and 6 on Javad's Wikipedia entry. Owing to the fact that these articles have been removed and the publisher refuses to stand by their content, I do not believe they constitute verifiable third-party sources and in the interest of honest and accuracy, references to these citations should be removed from his page. You can see the removed article here: http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/09/tory-donor-was-trusted-middleman-for-oil-firm-involved-in-bribes-inquiry.
2. Additionally, Director Magazine has made corrections to their article about business in Azerbaijan to accurately reflect Javad's business interests. Specifically, he is not an owner of Pasha Construction (the 'construction company' mentioned in his Wikipedia article), but rather he is an adviser. Additionally Chinar is actually a restaurant in Baku, and Javad Marandi does not own it. We feel this sentence should be altered to more accurately reflect the content within the cited article: "Marandi owns a company in Azerbaijan called Chinar, the country's "largest distribution business" and a construction company.[3]" A more accurate statement would be: "Marandi owns the country's largest distribution business and is an adviser to a construction firm." The Director Magazine article is citation 3 on Javad's Wikipedia page and you can find it here: http://www.director.co.uk/9071-doing-business-in-azerbaijan/. If you look through the article, you’ll see what nowhere does it corroborate the information contained within Javad Marandi’s Wikipedia page.
Again, as with my previous attempts to get these rectified, I hope you'll agree that I'm not seeking to embellish or editorialise, but rather to have this article accurately reflect correct information, and I'm attempting to do so within Wikipedia's own COI guidelines. I'm reposting this request again to specifically point out which of Wikipedia's guidelines are being violated within Javad's Wikipedia page.
Please do not hesitate to get in touch if you have any questions or concerns. Btgolder ( talk) 14:21, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
Note I happen to follow this noticeboard. Another editor has done:
The source given is http://www.smh.com.au/business/unaoil-scandal-and-the-panama-papers-20160409-go2jr7.html . The source does not use the term "trusted middleman" , nor even the word "trusted" nor the word "middleman." I consider the use of quotation marks for material not in the source is misleading and an affront to WP:BLP.
Several people here are aware that I read this noticeboard, but the editor involved made a snarky comment: oh, but are you following me around?? I now assure the (expletive) editor that I do not follow him around at all and that I regard such snark as ill-suited to anyone on Wikipedia. I am, in fact, amazed that anyone would so write about a person who has made a significant number of edits (over 1250) on this noticeboard. Only SineBot has more edits than I. Warm regards. Collect ( talk) 21:16, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
FWIW, The Sydney Morning Herald appears to have removed its article from its archives. Collect ( talk) 15:42, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Tanya Nicole Kach strikes me as a BLP1E, though the particular 1E did engender a lot of news coverage at the time. The legitimacy of the article is somewhat complex:
I'm not sure that this article is of legitimate here (whether it can/should be summarily deleted as an illegitimate recreation of material deleted via AfD), or whether the material has encyclopedic significance. Since the biographee has chosen to coauthor a (minor) book about it ( Amazon sales page), it can be argued that she's no longer a private person. If the material remains, I suspect that it should be in a differently titled article. But tabloidy material is of little interest to me and I have no appetite for editing it myself. Comments? (And yes, I realize that this page is no substitute for launching an AfD or even an RfD.) -- Hoary ( talk) 04:38, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
Since Kashmiri has today added an autobiography tag to this Article, I would just like to repeat the point that I posted on the talk page at 20.12 on 07 May 2011 (UTC) after Zakhalesh had added a COI tag to this Article:
I would simply like to point out (as is clear from the contents of the discussion on the Talk page) that this Article was originally started back in 2005 in order to attack me.
As was quoted elsewhere in Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Islam:SIIEG) where the Request for an Article (No. 24) on me was first made : "Hey, check it out! After Klonimus put up this request I threw together a quick stub on Ahmad Thomson. Now Ahmad Thomson himself (or someone claiming to be him) has now created an account on Wikipedia and is edit warring over the content! He seems to have stopped for now, you'll have to go through the history to see his first person additions and apologetics. Babajobu 08:40, 2 November 2005 (UTC)"
In response, I did not remove the inaccurate allegations, but rather gave my replies to them. In so doing I have been careful to maintain an NOPV ~ which is why the Article still contains the inaccurate allegations originally made against me.
It appears that over the years some of the editors have not exercised an NOPV to put it mildly!
I am not even permitted to post my year of birth or my ethnicity, even though I have been directly aware of both for more than 66 years!
If this Article was an autobiography, believe me, the content would be very different in many respects and far more positive.
In conclusion, I would also like to point out that my personal reputation in this world, whether it is based on fact or fiction, is of minimal importance ~ ultimately God is our judge on the Last Day.
And I would also like to thank Wikipedia for the number of times it has enabled me to find the piece of information that I was looking for ~ which is why I have been happy to make a small financial contribution each year, even though it has been used to attack yours truly!
Thank you. Ahmad Thomson 15:01, 5 June 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmad Thomson ( talk • contribs)
User:Bangabandhu is repeatedly adding the name of the subject's wife, and the fact that he lives with her and his two children to this BLP. I have reverted, but the editor persists. I think that this information, although well sourced, is not sufficiently notable to be in the article and, because the subject is known to be rich, might provide an incitement for crime. There has been discussion at Talk:Alain de Botton. What do editors think? Xxanthippe ( talk) 06:46, 5 June 2016 (UTC).
Consider whether the inclusion of names of living private individuals who are not directly involved in an article's topic adds significant valuefrom WP:BLPNAME, an official policy. The fact is, his sons' names are probably irrelevant, though you could make an argument for his wife Charlotte based on the articles linked at the talk page. I won't shed any tears if it is removed. MisterRandomized ( talk) 22:47, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
Filbert007 is a close contact of the subject and has serious concerns abourt most of the sources used in the article - see talk:Peter Wyngarde and user talk:Nthep#PETER WYNGARDE BIOGRAPHY. Such is the level of concern that Filbert007 has drafted a new article at WYNGARDE PETER (Authorized Biography). I aam sure that the article as it stands has issues but other eyes are needed to look at the concerns raised re DoB, sexuality, criminal conviction and assess veracity and relevance. Note from the discussion on my talk page I do not think that legal action against Wikipedia is considered nor is the account being wrongly used by more than one person. I believe the opions are genuinely held but I think compromise may be difficult to find. Nthep ( talk) 18:18, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
A user has called multiple living people notorious anti-Semites and neo-Nazis on multiple article talk pages, here and [31], citing an article in FrontPageMag (found unreliable on this board in the past) by Steven Plaut, who has been convicted of libel against another Jewish academic he called a Judenrat Wannabe (Neve Gordon). Is it acceptable to call living people "neo-Nazis"? Ive asked the user to refactor his comments, he refused, so Ive brought this here. nableezy - 20:33, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Someone inserted libelous and unfounded information on the webpage about myself Carlos Gershenson. I removed it and answered false claims in the Talk page. I would appreciate neutral opinions to end the silly discussion and edit war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgershen ( talk • contribs) 19:06, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
The article Eric_Donaldson#Biography says: "In 2005 he was arrested on St. Vincent for possession of marijuana, and in 2011 was fined $100 in Jamaica for a similar offence."
I was thinking about removing this information (even though it is probably true, and the source seems fine) because it seems to be rather irrelevant. He is a Jamaican reggae singer-songwriter. If he was a major drug kingpin then of course we should mention that (if reliable sources exist) but it seems to me that this was a small amount of marijuana for personal use. I live in Amsterdam, so to me possession of a small amount of marijuana is not the crime of the century.
I would like to know what other people think about this. I always try to be extra careful with WP:BLPs. The Quixotic Potato ( talk) 22:31, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
Grant Starrett ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This appears to be a campaign article promoting a single candidate. Early life and education is poorly cited; Article contains irrelevant information.
Peter W. Galbraith is running for Governor in my state, so I looked him up; I found his article excessively promotional and poorly sourced. (Most of it turned out to be WP:COPYVIO from his self-descriptions on book jackets and the like). I've been going through line by line, hunting down impartial and reliable sources, bringing the article into line with them, and carefully reinstating several controversies which had been scrubbed from the page. I think I've done a decent repair job, but I'd be grateful for more opinions. Also, I noticed along the way that the article on Kai Eide, one of Galbraith's political enemies, is unduly concerned with their spat (compared to what comes up in a Google Books search) and seems non-neutral; that needs fixing.
I'm learning that the field of recent diplomatic history is often bitterly partisan, with apparently-reliable, scholarly, secondary sources unexpectedly making semi-substantiated accusations left and right, so I'd appreciate help with these articles, especially Mr. Eide's. FourViolas ( talk) 22:02, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
User talk:Zigzig20s keeps trying to list Brian Chesky as Jewish (he's of Italian-Polish Catholic descent). The source he's using is: 1. A list of names. 2. Doesn't even strictly speaking say that Chesky is Jewish. 3. Has two other errors (out of something like 10 names in total). It lists the name of Samantha Power, an Irish Catholic immigrant, right next to Chesky's. And it also lists Reid Hoffman, who also isn't Jewish. Obviously, such a source (that doesn't even strictly speaking say Chesky is Jewish) is totally unacceptable in a BLP. How can something that's already been proven error-filled be used to make such a claim? "Sure, we got two names wrong, but the other eight names are accurate?" Dohodho ( talk) 22:54, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Article is not written from a NPOV. text mostly written in a braggy tone, some directly from the website of the subject. Most importantly, the huge controversy regarding very young mountaineers and exposing young children to the inherent dangers of climbing is completely ignored. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.132.237.242 ( talk) 16:48, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
Jacob Appelbaum has recently been accused of "sexual mistreatment" by some members of the Tor Project. Most of the coverage in sources mirrors the statement from the executive director of Tor who originally made the accusations public shortly after Appelbaum departed Tor. My concern is that there are a couple of eager editors who keep adding details to the article about Appelbaum's alleged sexual encounters, sourced to websites like the Daily Dot. At least one editor has repeatedly posted a link to a website where apparently anyone can post allegations with a lot of intimate detail.
Perhaps I'm alone in thinking that we should not be a platform for potentially damaging someone's reputation. In any case, I would appreciate a few more eyes on this article. Thank you.- Mr X 02:37, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I want to know if there is any problem with using {{ Infobox criminal}} in the article. SLBedit ( talk) 02:08, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
This is with regard to the page of Gian Kumar,
He is the author of 7 books and his personal website is http://www.giankumar.com/
We can find his books in online stores such as flipkart and amazon ( http://www.flipkart.com/know-thyself-english/p/itmefqak3ppmbz6z, http://www.amazon.com/Gian-Kumar/e/B00E58S6IG)
He also writes in speakingtree.in ( http://www.speakingtree.in/gian-kumar-1)
Please let me know what are the most trusted sources from these? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.51.23.33 ( talk) 09:40, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I am the subject of this article which is so biased that it is practically libellous. All writers are subject to criticism, but the author of the article has only picked the most scathing. Some of my books have been highly praised – most notably The Empress of South America and my biography of Ike Turner, Takin' Back My Name. Four of my publishers tell me that I am the most published author in the UK with 175 titles to my name, so I must be doing something right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.205.58.146 ( talk) 09:31, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
This page was created by BarkingSpiderArrse on 16:56, 5 February 2009. This was done by members of the website http://www.arrse.co.uk. This was done after they got several British tabloids to publish defamatory and libelous articles. Those listed in the article go to those sites. They do not meet the requirement of valid sources any more than an article in the National Enquirer does in the US. Mr. Shortt has been trying to get this biography removed for years. Per you policy on biographies on living people, this is not a neutral or unbiased article. He is not a notable person either. The only reason there is anything about him in the general press is because of the vendetta by ARRSE.
This is link to their page about him: <ref> http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/The_Baron_of_Castleshort </ref>
As you can see, they think rather poorly of him. This all started when Mr. Shortt was appointed as a security adviser to the British government. This group seems to have nothing better to do than defame people and talk negatively about anyone and everyone. On their website, they can have all the fun they want, but here, this is very wrong and the page just needs to be deleted.
These people are highly skilled at using false identities to keep this page up. An example is this user E.M.Gregory. As you can see from the last attempt to remove the page, he fought it aggressively. No article about Mr. Shortt was every published in the London Times. They have real news to report on.
Thank you, SterlingSpots ( talk) 15:10, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
There was a detail from the Joshua Ryne Goldberg article that bothers me. The infobox currently describes a list of "alternate names" that he used as handles in online conversations, e.g. "Australi Witness". I think I've seen this before, and that it is a misleading practice that puts people in a bad light.
Typically, we think of aliases mostly as something that criminals use. And there's a reason for this: an alias is a name that someone gives when his real name is expected, with an implication of some underhanded purpose. I would even go so far as to say that aliases refer only to when the name is intended to be conveyed to a person, rather than typed into some software registration screen to preserve privacy. Definitely an online handle would not qualify, except I suppose on Facebook or other Chinese media outlets where real names are required by law. I don't think it would be reasonable to say that "Wnt" is my alias per se, because nobody really thinks that's my name; to illustrate further, had I suffered an unfortunate accident in the global username merge, would "Wnt~enwiki" become an alias potentially worth listing in some article simply because WMF changed it on its machine?
In the current example, I'd propose simply to fix this by having a separate infobox category for online handles -- though there are many persons for whom listing them all this way would seem improper to most people, at least in this case it makes sense. Or perhaps " pen name" would be a better umbrella term. But is some kind of policy or guideline needed to encourage people to fix this wherever they encounter it? Wnt ( talk) 13:36, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
The Telethon Kids Institute recently held an open forum on vaccination, at which a number of anti-vaxers turned up. As a result of their protest, the forum was closed early. One of the people in attendance was Judy Wilyman. Almost all of the coverage of the event (limited though it was) focused on the anti-vaxers, but none mentioned any by name. However, The Australian in their "High Wired" column alleged that Wilyman was one of the protesters who had it shut down [32]. She was certainly there, but whether or not she should be highlighted as one of those who caused it to be shut down is unclear to me, as the only source mentioning her by name is the one column in The Australian which has been running a campaign against Wilyman for some time. On the other hand, she is mentioned in The Australian, she was present at the forum, and she called for anti-vaxers to attend to forum and ask questions in her newsletter.
So my question is whether or not she should be named in the Telethon Kids Institute article. I'm concerned as some editors have been very active in trying to add negative material about Wilyman and those connected to her in multiple articles, and trying to keep some balance to this is proving challenging. We've now reached a point where they are threatening my job in order to get this material included, so this isn't a pleasant topic to wade into. I'm not sure on the correct answer in this case, so alternative opinions would be welcome.
(And just because it is likely to be raised, as the accusations have been thrown up a repeatedly - I have no connection with Wilyman, her supervisor, or anyone or anything else involved in this issue, and I am opposed to her views. My interest here is in maintaining BLP, not her agenda). - Bilby ( talk) 13:22, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
The article is terribly written, like a company brochure or website, describing their goals and achievements followed by long lists written as if they were paragraphs with complete sentences. The grammar is poor with far too many pronouns. Heck, it even gives directions on how to find it. In short, it reads more like an advertisement than an encyclopedia article.
Notability is questionable at best. Aside from the above mentioned incident, its lack of independent sources is troubling. The incident seems far more notable than the institute.
As for the incident itself, the source only mentions "Judy and her friends" in passing, and in a very odd sort of way, which is uncharacteristic for a reliable news source. I'm not familiar with The Australian, but its style and format remind me of one of those local-town free-papers that report on stuff that would only interest the locals. (Here in Anchorage we have The Press.) If so, then these are very biased and typically unreliable sources of information. They gave no reason why they would mention her, and I see no reason why we should either, because there is no indication that it is necessary for understanding the incident. Err on the side of caution. Zaereth ( talk) 01:16, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
This article was originally posted by a staff member of Mr Rynning 1 May 2015. Recently, later references to Mr Rynning's performance as CEO of Origo Partners Limited have been removed to reduce the article to more of a LinkedIn page with no substance. If the information in the article posted 11 Jun 2016 is acceptable by Wiki policy, I suggest that the article be locked to prevent further editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.146.140.221 ( talk) 11:45, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
I just came across this page: /info/en/?search=Tom_Guerra There is not sufficient citation to establish notability and recommend rapid deletion of the page. I checked all of the sources and they are not main stream media but for one brief mention in a barely sufficient article which isn't enough to establish notability in my opinion. More citations are needed to avoid deletion. 162.207.0.9 ( talk) 17:26, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
I realize this article was already brought up in another notice, but I am an experienced editor and my take on the article is different. I request assistance on reviewing of the sources used in the article. This article was originally created as an attack page and was AFD'd for being so, but the result was a provisional keep (that is, to improve the article) since there seem to be sources about the article's subject. The problem is that very few of the sources seem to be available online, so I need verification. Some of the sources also deal with subjects areas I am very inexperienced with, such as Irish and UK nobility/peerages.
I also want to stress that thus far, users that have commented on the article, including the recent AFD do not seem to fully comprehend the requirements for notability of a BLP article, feeling that brief and sometimes incidental mention in the news is tantamount to notability. One user even recently attempted to claim a self-published wiki page was a reliable source, and had to be told by myself and administrator this was not the case. And three times I have had ad hominem attacks aimed at me for my mere questioning of this article notability, rather than actual addressing of my WP:NOTEBIO policy concerns. So I would appreciate some more experienced eyes on the article. Thanks. Legitimus ( talk) 12:51, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
United States and White House have not yet confirmed his death and further there have been several reports earlier of his death which found to be wrong.Do feel we need to remove the death tag from his article until it is confirmed. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 17:48, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Anthony Pratt (businessman) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I outlined an edit request over at Talk:Anthony Pratt (businessman) 12 days ago. I realize the requested edits list is backlogged and that " there is no deadline." However, was hoping one of the editors who regularly visits this noticeboard might be willing to take a look and give feedback. Please note I have a declared COI with the subject of the page. Thanks in advance. NinaSpezz ( talk) 18:40, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
This edit of mine is being disputed at the article talk page, and outside opinions could be helpful. Thanks. The issue is whether the bolded material below is necessary to comply with WP:BLP, or violates WP:BLP, or neither:
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In my view, the bolded material is not contradicted by any reliable source, and it is necessary for NPOV, especially since the article in question involves two living persons, both Trump and Curiel. Anythingyouwant ( talk) 00:34, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
But Curiel's membership in a Latino bar association, and his appointment by a Democratic president, according to Bloch, would likely not be grounds for recusal.NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 05:18, 14 June 2016 (UTC) NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 05:18, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
@ Anythingyouwant: You came here seeking other people's opinions on a subject which is in dispute - at least that should have been your approach because that's what this board is for. You have gotten opinions from several people now. All of them have disagreed with your position - just as everyone has disagreed with you at the talk page. Your response by now should be "OK, thanks for your input, everyone; it looks like I don't have consensus to include this." Instead your response is just an extension of your response on the talk page: Argue, argue, argue. Insist, insist, insist. Wikipedia works by consensus, and the consensus here and at the talk page is clear. It's time to take the advice you asked for, and accept what is obviously the consensus to leave this out. -- MelanieN ( talk) 08:29, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
95.93.220.31 ( talk · contribs) has been adding unsourced information, and removing sourced information from João Vale e Azevedo, in an apparent attempt of WP:ADVOCACY. SLBedit ( talk) 14:50, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
User has been informed about this but continues adding unsourced content to the article. SLBedit ( talk) 16:16, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Edits over the last few days have significantly changed the article into reading like more of a CV (like with this edit, though this one in particular is a smaller concern) and glossing over controversies relating to Bundgaard (like here, here, and here). Most of the new material was added by user:Nurse12, whom I will notify after finishing this post.
Nurse12 has made some helpful edits too, including some basic biographical information and perhaps the addition of some other relevant work performed by Bundgaard. I can't undo some of the broader, problematic revisions and would like someone with rollback or other permissions to review the recent changes to this article. Thank you! Lizzius ( talk) 13:13, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm a newbie. Lizzius has taken an odd interest in 'biting' this newbie WP:DBN. Lizzius has been casting aspersions at my intentions, as I have picked one person - a washed up Arizona politician - and attempted to round out his biography. The edits I've made are consistent with other BLPs, such as adding community involvement, in order to maintain focus on Scotts political activity. (See Hillary Clinton and Marco Rubio or Arizona Governor Doug Ducey's "Business career") With no evidence, other than my desire to jump into this new world of Wikipedia and to be Bold, Lizzius has suggested that I have a COI and that I should consider a WP:Clean start, which is offensive. Granted, Lizzius has a few months more experience than I do on WP, but I have years of experience, depth of knowledge and expertise in reporting on politics in Arizona. I would welcome an objective user with some authority User:DGG, perhaps, due to his previous overview and expertise in BLP to review the edits made to this page. This page was edited heavily in 2011 and 2012 during a heated political controversy by political adversaries and reduced to a political hit piece on Scott. I'd like to try my hand at rounding out this bio without the nitpicking and undue criticisms from a user with a few months of 'experience' on WP. Nurse12 ( talk) 16:43, 15 June 2016 (UTC)nurse12
A new BLP that is well-sourced and appears to be well over notability guidelines. Subject is a former naturopathic doctor who now advocates against alternative medicine. She seems to be the only naturopath who has flipped over to science and has gotten a lot of coverage for this, which makes an entry on WP just fine, especially with coverage in Forbes, Vox, CBC, National Post, etc. and with coverage by notable physicians in the skeptic movement. Article was recently nominated for deletion with the suggestion that it should be blown-up per WP:TNT because of alleged promotional tone. This seems like overkill and a bit odd. More eyes and opinions needed. Delta13C ( talk) 10:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
This page is up for speedily deleted. I have expressed my feeling on the talk page and outside opinions would really help. First off, it's full with information about the boxer. It meets suitable standards and guidelines set by Wikipedia also. This particular article obviously wants to be made after the amount of previous attempts which have occurred. He has won a regional title and currently is ranked in the top 100 by a sanctioning body. I personally feel this is ridiculous to be up for deletion after I have given plenty of references and information throughtout this article. He's a top prospect and plenty of readers want to know information about him, so why not have a page for this young boxer? Kidsoljah ( talk) 21:16, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
I am commissioned by Irene Cara to assist in the removal of all her private information for security and safety purposes. We are attempting to remove all references to her maiden name and any home address data. I have made the appropriate edits but, the information has resurfaced. We are in process of communication with the referenced sources for the removal as well. What do we need to do to remove this data immediately? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Intltech2016 ( talk • contribs) 16:08, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Can I get some BLP eyes over at Death of Jo Cox. Specifically the information about the suspect, and application of WP: BLPCRIME. -- Kyohyi ( talk) 20:45, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
Jo Cox is also worth watching – related article and top of ITN at time of writing. StillWaitingForConnection ( talk) 21:01, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
This BLP could use a major overhaul. She is notable for being openly transgender and a Malaysian pop musician, also for her big wedding. The problem is the article is extremely promotional seeming, as it details far too much about her works in a tone inappropriate for WP. There are few sources in English, so an editor with Chinese language skills would be a great help. Delta13C ( talk) 04:18, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Patrick Cannon ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
An IP removed File:PatrickCannonMugshot.jpg which was being used in the infobox with this edit and has also changed the number of Cannon's children with this edit. The same IP's only other two edits were to the article as well, so there be some connection between the Cannon and the IP. The original content about the children is supported by a citation to the The Charlotte Observer, but I cannot find an online version of the article to verify what it says. The photo is freely licensed and I agree it's not flattering, but not sure if that is simply enough to justify its removal even if Cannon's family and friends find it offensive. This does not appear to be a highly watched article, so I am posting here in the hope of getting some feedback. Thanks in advance. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 01:09, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
If there is a DAB page called "John D Doe" and inside that DAB page there are several links to the various Does, is it appropriate to have a red link for "John D Doe (surfer)"? What about "John D Doe (pedophile)"? What about the case where none of the entries passes GNG, but are mentioned in a section of another article? My concern is that by creating such links allows the subject to be indexed through search engines, and unduly raising their internet profile when they fail to pass Wikipedia's notability guidelines. That man from Nantucket ( talk) 22:44, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
WP:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages#Where redirecting may be appropriate offers an example of using the redirect James Carrey, similar to the question you raise. Geo Swan ( talk) 10:30, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Gotta fix sentence which says that Paul Manafort seen eating Lewandowski's remains — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C470:DFAF:6C8D:84FE:B46C:7CF3 ( talk) 17:35, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Someone has edited the article replacing the name of his University as well as the amount of points in the 1st 2nd and 3rd paragraph. Also somewhere instead of the Celtics I read the Greers. I don't know how else to report this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:E004:900:901B:E7E7:9FB:82D6 ( talk) 08:21, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
I think this edit this edit is potentially libelous and should be redacted. 77.130.195.10 ( talk) 13:24, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Kim Min-hee (actress, born 1982) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I've been noticing repeated contentious/insulting edits made to the 'Occupation' section of Kim Min-hee's page /info/en/?search=Kim_Min-hee_%28actress,_born_1982%29 (edits describing her as a 'Homewrecker', 'Fox', 'Concubine', to name a few) and I suspect this is the result of recent news about her personal life, and may also be the work of individuals with an agenda given that I made edits to remove the contentious material and the insults were back on the article within minutes).
I strongly recommend closing Kim Min-hee's wiki article/locking it against further edits for at least a day, given that the edits appear to be made by people with an axe to grind against the actress for whatever reason. Please take action to prevent this.
The Wiki article David Bergstein is undergoing continuous edits, which I believe it be in violation of the living person policies. The new introduction to the article appears to have been created to disparage the subject, and makes claims about bankruptcy which do not have citations. While the article details Bergstein's career, business involvement etc., the introduction has been modified to focus on financial activity related to his companies, and over-emphasize this at the expense of what Bergstein is known for (his work in producing films, equity and advisory sector). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katieshey ( talk • contribs) 23:43, 21 June 2016 (UTC)