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The result was delete. Missvain ( talk) 02:54, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Missy Owens
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Run-of-the-mill political advisor fails WP:GNG. Being the daughter of the president-elect's sister does not make her notable. KidAd talk 22:08, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep She has plenty of her own merits which is why she deserves her own page. HesioneHushabye ( talk)
- Any policy to support that, or just WP:ILIKEIT? Serving as the Deputy Chief of Staff for the Secretary of Energy is not a position that meets any notability standard, and the page is written like a LinkedIn profile. KidAd talk 01:46, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- The article states among her many notable involvements that she currently works in a highly public and visible role for The Coca Cola Company as Director of Public Affairs. HesioneHushabye ( talk)
- Delete Fails GNG. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 10:33, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTINHERITED, WP:GNG failure. SportingFlyer T· C 13:50, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. She hasn't held any political roles that would make her "inherently" notable under WP:NPOL, and notability is not inherited, so she isn't automatically special just because of who her uncle is either. So the only valid basis for notability here would be that she passed WP:GNG on the sourcing — but the sources here are not substantively about her, and instead comprise a mix of primary sources that are not support for notability at all, and glancing namechecks of her existence in coverage of her uncle. That's not how you reference a person as notable enough for inclusion here: we require reliable source media coverage that has her and her work as its primary subject, not just any page on the web that happens to have her name in it. Bearcat ( talk) 15:33, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG and a case example of WP:NOTINHERITED. Elms super 02:40, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TOOSOON and WP:GNG failure. Not notable at this time. Her uncle is president-elect. More exposure may follow sometimes after her uncle becomes president -for good and bad this is my experience- but notability should be data-driven, not automatic. Right now I do not see the sources. If someone here takes a special interest in Owens, I'm also fine with draftification and certainly with a redirect to the family page. gidonb ( talk) 08:05, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete (or redirect per gibond). The only strong source I see so far is this NYT article. This one is quite good as a basis for notability, but it stands alone for now. Jlevi ( talk) 13:21, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Family of Joe Biden. ★Trekker ( talk) 14:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable political advisor. Just being related to the US president does not give automatic notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:29, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Non notable failing WP:GNG. Faizal batliwala ( talk) 14:26, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Missvain ( talk) 02:54, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Missy Owens
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Run-of-the-mill political advisor fails WP:GNG. Being the daughter of the president-elect's sister does not make her notable. KidAd talk 22:08, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep She has plenty of her own merits which is why she deserves her own page. HesioneHushabye ( talk)
- Any policy to support that, or just WP:ILIKEIT? Serving as the Deputy Chief of Staff for the Secretary of Energy is not a position that meets any notability standard, and the page is written like a LinkedIn profile. KidAd talk 01:46, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- The article states among her many notable involvements that she currently works in a highly public and visible role for The Coca Cola Company as Director of Public Affairs. HesioneHushabye ( talk)
- Delete Fails GNG. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 10:33, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTINHERITED, WP:GNG failure. SportingFlyer T· C 13:50, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. She hasn't held any political roles that would make her "inherently" notable under WP:NPOL, and notability is not inherited, so she isn't automatically special just because of who her uncle is either. So the only valid basis for notability here would be that she passed WP:GNG on the sourcing — but the sources here are not substantively about her, and instead comprise a mix of primary sources that are not support for notability at all, and glancing namechecks of her existence in coverage of her uncle. That's not how you reference a person as notable enough for inclusion here: we require reliable source media coverage that has her and her work as its primary subject, not just any page on the web that happens to have her name in it. Bearcat ( talk) 15:33, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG and a case example of WP:NOTINHERITED. Elms super 02:40, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TOOSOON and WP:GNG failure. Not notable at this time. Her uncle is president-elect. More exposure may follow sometimes after her uncle becomes president -for good and bad this is my experience- but notability should be data-driven, not automatic. Right now I do not see the sources. If someone here takes a special interest in Owens, I'm also fine with draftification and certainly with a redirect to the family page. gidonb ( talk) 08:05, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete (or redirect per gibond). The only strong source I see so far is this NYT article. This one is quite good as a basis for notability, but it stands alone for now. Jlevi ( talk) 13:21, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Family of Joe Biden. ★Trekker ( talk) 14:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable political advisor. Just being related to the US president does not give automatic notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:29, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Non notable failing WP:GNG. Faizal batliwala ( talk) 14:26, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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